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Question: Should the US have a state church?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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« on: September 12, 2011, 01:24:46 PM »
« edited: September 12, 2011, 01:27:22 PM by As Afterwards The Words Still Ring »

Yes. And if you're not Christian, you should DEFINITELY vote yes.

Why? Because imagine if the US had a state church that resembled the Church of England or the Church of Sweden. Now take a look at what we have instead due to no state church and Pat Robertson actually has influence in America. State churches are as a rule almost always the most harmless. Imagine if the US's state church (or at least some ministers and churches in it) were performing gay marriages and how much that'd cut down opponents of it.

Canada should also just go ahead and make the United Church of Canada their state church for the same reason.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,300
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2011, 05:03:41 PM »

Still not buying this whole "hardcore Christian BRTD" thing.

LOL, I'm actually involved now in the launch gatherings of a church planting group.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,300
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2011, 06:48:15 PM »

A State Church isn't just something you can just establish, you know. Especially not in a country with such a love of religious pluralism as the U.S.

Well it'd probably have to start out as more of a state interdenominational network, like what became the United Church of Canada or the Uniting Church in Australia.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
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Posts: 113,300
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2011, 10:52:10 PM »

I did some work with a church planting project a few years ago. Sadly my job prevented me from being more involved.

Did that one involve a gay guy?

It's funny, but there can't be many forms of Christianity as different from BRTD's bandshirted Happy Clappyism than a proper State Protestant Church.

The US affiliate of the Danish state church does a lot more "modern" worship services now even the one my parents go to, and that's the afternoon one while the traditional one is in the morning, so it's obvious which one they go to more often. But since their congregation is still heavily made up of olds, they still tend to act boring, some hand waving from the younger people but I'm sure if people acted like they do at the one I'm going to now the olds would freak out.

Please note I never said I'd join the state church.

Yes. And if you're not Christian, you should DEFINITELY vote yes.

Ah, so you're not a Christian after all.

Roll Eyes

You fail Logic 101. Let's follow the logic at work here in another scenario:

If you live in the US, you are most likely to be white. If you live in Minnesota, you are even more likely to be white. Keith Ellison is from Minnesota, therefore he must be white.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,300
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2011, 11:29:27 PM »

And wasn't it some Church of England bishop or something who came up with the term "happy clappy"? I guess that was part of Al's point though.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 113,300
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2011, 09:47:34 PM »


As well intentioned as it is, a wishy-washy politically correct, don't offend anyone state church would do more at staving off a theocracy than it has done.
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