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Question: Is it OK to wear an anti-Christian band's shirt to church?
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I have done it
 
#2
Haven't done it, but yes
 
#3
No
 
#4
It's not OK to wear any band shirt to church
 
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« on: July 30, 2011, 11:04:15 PM »

Option 1. Similarly if I had a Christian band's shirt I would never wear it to church, but would to an anti-Christian band's show.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2011, 11:51:38 PM »


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You're surprised? I've posted before about how I go to these liberal hipster churches with a much younger crowd before, you think people are dressing up for places like that?
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 01:13:37 AM »

To troll, or for some other reason?

Because I like the band, wear the shirt regularly, and usually just wear the first shirt I pull out of my clean laundry basket every day which in this case happened to be that one.

So why would I never wear a Christian band's shirt to church? It sort of feels like being "that guy" and wearing the shirt of the band playing when you go see them. Granted the only Christian band I can see myself getting a shirt of is mewithoutYou.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 12:56:56 PM »
« Edited: July 31, 2011, 01:04:26 PM by We Neither Rise Nor Fall »

Also, what is mewithoutYou? Is that some sort of Christian hardcore, and if I so, I never knew there was such a thing.

Seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_hardcore

I've never got why people think it's so odd are surprised it exists.

mewithoutYou are one of the most influential bands of the last decade for that style, they've been a huge influence on non-Christian bands (like La Dispute, who are very big now), and even Tweed loves them. They're still together but they're playing all sorts of weird experimental folk stuff, not post-hardcore. I remember this guy I briefly worked with wearing their shirt and I was like "you like them?" and he said "Hell yeah, they're probably my favorite band", I don't know if he was Christian but he never struck me as such.

And yeah I mean actually anti-Christian, in that they mock religion and God in their lyrics (or rather the concept of God being atheists.)

The only legitimate reason I could see for wearing such a shirt to church would be if your parents are forcing you to go and you do so as a protest.  That said, if parents are forcing children to go to church, I doubt it would be one that would consider T-shirts appropriate attire.

What if you just like the band and wear the shirt regularly anyway as I noted?
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 03:00:36 PM »

BTW this is the band I'm referring to and their most obvious reference to religion: http://www.allmusic.com/album/the-body-the-blood-the-machine-r847605/review

But as noted, they're more just being mocking and irreverent and it's quite different from say just about any black metal band, granted black metal anti-Christian lyrics are so stupid I can't find them offensive...
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 05:45:00 PM »
« Edited: July 31, 2011, 05:58:57 PM by We Neither Rise Nor Fall »

The only legitimate reason I could see for wearing such a shirt to church would be if your parents are forcing you to go and you do so as a protest.  That said, if parents are forcing children to go to church, I doubt it would be one that would consider T-shirts appropriate attire.

What if you just like the band and wear the shirt regularly anyway as I noted?

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd think one should wear something among the nicer items you normally wear to go to church.  (I'm not so old-fashioned as to think you need to have a special go-to-church outfit.)  Somehow, I doubt that a band shirt would qualify among the nicer items in your wardrobe.

The only shirts I wear that aren't band shirts are some my work gave out to employees for free and my alma matter university's.

Actually I do have a business casual one my mom gave me last year specifically to wear to my cousin's wedding but it's sitting in my closet somewhere and I'm not going it to dig it out.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 10:03:15 PM »

The average American has very little respect for themselves or anything else.  I hate how EVERYTHING in our society is up for negotiation.  Everybody exploits the Constitution for their own petty desires.  Just go to the local mall or Walmart.  No one dresses appropriately for anything.

Church to me should be the one place where we should have some values.  There should be some unwritten rules, things that the whole community just abides by.  Every year there is another person that wants the church to change to accommodate their view.  Where does it end?  We now have churches performing gay marriage ceremonies.  I don't have an issue with Walmart or the government recognizing domestic partners and extending benefits.  But I think its absurd that you can have a sermon where the preacher reads a passage from the Bible condemning homosexuality and an hour later you have a homosexual ceremony in the same hall.  The church is turning into a farce.  If I walk into a church it should look different than walking into the mall or Kmart.

Just my opinion.

I don't think any churches performing gay weddings would have sermons condemning homosexuality or reading those passages unless the point is to put them in context and argue that homosexuality isn't really condemned.

Also the type of people who go to the type of church I go to are quite different from people who go to Wal-Mart or are usually in the mall. Now if you said walking into a church should look different from walking into an urban coffeeshop, hipster bar or organic food co-op or something like that it'd be a bit more accurate. Of course the fact that there's a good chance the "church" IS in fact a rented coffeeshop makes it kind of silly to insist on.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 12:48:18 AM »

Given that it's unlikely anyone would even notice...

yeah, he's making a huge leap in even assuming anyone else had ever heard of the band, much less knew it was an antiChristian band

It's not a huge leap to assume that someone else in a building full of hipsters in uptown Minneapolis knows who the Thermals are.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 01:50:41 PM »

jmfcst, are you one of those people who actually wears a suit and tie to church?
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,502
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2011, 02:10:50 PM »

Wearing an Ampere shirt now. Anti-religion and anti-nationalism/patriotism all in one package (of course my church is vaguely anti-nationalism/patriotism too but they'll only imply it because there's a bit of a Moderate Hero tendency.)
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