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« on: December 02, 2010, 10:29:11 PM »

It's not. It's a ridiculous excuse argument. It also hasn't shown any weight anywhere in the world where gay marriage and civil unions already exist.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,580
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Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2010, 11:16:17 PM »

Solution to what? That strikes me as a completely separate proposal that has nothing to do with gay marriage. You can implement it with or without gay marriage (won't be very popular though) and not implement with or without gay marriage. Might as well discuss how gay marriage relates to offshore drilling.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,580
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E: -6.50, S: -6.67

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« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2010, 11:36:35 PM »

The sham marriage issue already exists with or without gay marriage being legal. I'm opposed because I support both gay marriage and current pension programs. Since there has been no huge issues in Massachusetts or any countries where it's legal it's a moot point.
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I spent the winter writing songs about getting better
BRTD
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Posts: 113,580
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2010, 12:20:14 AM »

We're talking about 3-5% of marriages here. Not a huge increase. And in states with legal gay marriage they don't exclude same-sex couples. Can you please give any cites about how disastrous this has been in Massachusetts or any other state?
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