Argentina 2013: Legislative Election, Primaries and assorted maps

[FredLindq]

What about Massi and his Frente Renovador? Is he clearly innthe opposition? Might he join The Federal Peronists?

[FredLindq]

Ok. It seems complicated. But why does not Masi run as head of FPV?! Or is he just spoiling the opposition votes i.e. instead of voting for de Navarez people will vote for Masa and get a supporter for Kirchner?

[FredLindq]

Yes, but I mean is a trick to fool people who wants to vote for a dissident peronist like Navarez buts instead is voting for Masa which might be a vote for Kirchner?

[FredLindq]

Very interesting post.

Interesting to know that both Solá as a "dissident" peronist and three PRO 3 deputies are on the Frente Renovador list. It more looks like an CR-outfit. Maybe they can pull off something lika "dissindent" peronism pulled off i BA in 2009.

It seems that these elections might be a major setback for FPV och Kirchner.

I wonder if Peronism might go more centre or centre right in the future.

[FredLindq]

How does the primaries work? Will it determine which off the UDESO-lists that Will be the one that Will be the only one in the elections in CBA or what? What are they good for?

[FredLindq]

As I understand the primaries gave CFK and FPV a boost and the results were almost repeated in the elections?! As you sad a mega poll...

[FredLindq]

Why are people splitting their votes. I.e. giving PRO a greater support to the senate and UNEN a larger support to the diputados?

[FredLindq]

According to me it seems like FPVs numbers are holding up in CBA? 18-20% is rather good. 29,2% in 2011 was a really good. 11,6 % in 2009, 12,7 % in 2007 and 20,5 % in 2005. So 18-20% seems like a good result for them. A swing off aprrox 10 %.

[FredLindq]

FPV is advancing! However 27,4 % in BA is not so good...

[FredLindq]

Could someone explain the senate results per region? Which regions are experted to give PRO their 3 seats, the others 1 MPF (regional party bu allies to who?) the Other 1? And MPN is allied with FPV so they got 10+2+2 out off 25?

[FredLindq]

The Salta PJ sits with Peronista Federal i.e. The opposition so Salta is a "gain" for FPV. One of the senators i Santiago de Est. sits with UCR. So This is a "gain" for FPV since FCS Will have two seats now and FPV one. Strange with the third seat in Nequen, an opposition coalition but an senator loyal to FPV?!
What kind off party is Salta Somos Todos? They might take the third seat in Salta?
What kind off party is MPF in Tierra del Fuego?

As I see it FPV had 22 seats before the election and got 10 now. Chaco 2, Entré Rios 2, Rio Negro 2, Salta 2 and Tiera Del Fuego 2. They might claim another in Santiago Del E and one in Nequen?! In total 22+ 12 = 34 and FCS another 2. They can also count on one FDT senator in Corrinetes. In total 37. They lost the support off MPN. Their allies NE lost their two seats in Tierra del F. And PRS in Salta lost one but I think that they have Joined the opposition?

But 37 is more than 36 which is a majority. But it is close it hangs on the sets in Nequen and Santiago.

[FredLindq]

Some off the senate seats might change:
CBA with UNEN and PRO might take two seats.
Chaco UCR might take two seats, they are 6 points behind FPV
Entre Rios UCR might take one seats, they are 0,1 points behind PRO-AUPER
Nequen FPV might take one seat, they are 0,1 points behind CPC
Rio Negro AFP might take one seat, they are 7 points behind UCR
Salta SSTO (?!) might take one seat, they are 2 points behind PRO-FPS
Santiago AFP might take one seat, they are 9 points behind FP (FPV allied)
Tiera del F MPF might take two seats they are 7 points behind FPV and PP (?!) might take one seat they are 4 points behind MPF

[FredLindq]

Any news on new alliances or polls?!

[FredLindq]

Ok Massa gains from both FPV and DeNavarez. But will Massa and FR join the Peronista Federal in parliament? Which groups do you think Will join the different bloques?!

[FredLindq]

Read this. What are the chanses that this is the case?!
"Federal Peronist Congressman Francisco de Narváez, who would be in direct competition with the Renewal Front for the province's large center-right Peronist vote, believed that the charismatic Massa was in reality a "trojan horse" for the FpV; Renewal Front congressmen, per his reasoning, would run against Kirchnerism only to vote with them once elected to Congress."

[FredLindq]

But Chrustina lost heavliy in the mitterst 2009 but bonusen back in 2011. What are the chanses off an alliance between Massa, Macri and De Navarez.
Which governors and are allied with Kirchner and which are allied with Massa?
What moves has Saa and his allies in CF done?

[FredLindq]

Why is Francisco de Narváez approaching Scioli?! He seems more far away from FPV and Scioli than Massa... Seems complicated!

[FredLindq]

I would lik to see an alliance between Massa, Macri, De Navarez, Saa, maybee Duhalde... Seems impossible?!

[FredLindq]

Most off the Peronisa Federal seems to either join Massa or ally with him?! Might even PRO or other regional parties join In?!

And what will FPV and the center-left i.e. UCR, ARI, socialists etc do?

[FredLindq]

Where, on what party and Why?! :-)

[FredLindq]

Why is UNEN generally separated from. UCR, PS and allies? I thought UNEN was an alliance of UCR and allies. Or is UNEN ARI and allies?