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RedSLC
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« on: November 25, 2013, 11:06:54 PM »

For those unaware, a dry county is a county where alcohol sales are not permitted (though in nearly all cases, alcohol consumption is still legal, you just can't sell it.) Communities within counties may also choose to go "dry".

Here is a map of dry counties in the United States. Blue is "wet" (alcohol sales permitted), yellow is mixed (contains both "wet" and "dry" communities), and red is entirely "dry".



Personally, while I think that local governments have do, and should, have the right to go "dry", I don't think that they should be used to restrict alcohol sales. Besides having a generally libertarian-ish view on alcohol (as well as other drugs), studies have shown that people who live in these counties who regularly consume alcohol are forced to drive farther to obtain it - and some of those people don't wait to drink it until returning home, which results in them driving drunk, sometimes considerable distances, which increases the likelyhood of accidents.

In short, while they intend to decrease alcohol-related incidences, in practice, they have the opposite effect.

Anyway, that's my opinion. I'm curious what other posters here think.
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RedSLC
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« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2013, 11:17:02 PM »


How far do you have to drive to get a liquor store?
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RedSLC
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« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2013, 11:42:04 PM »

There a not-so-delicious irony in Kentucky, the home of America's greatest spirit (bourbon of course), being the most dry state in the nation.  Most of the major distillers are even in dry counties, which is especially cruel.

The yellow is a little misleading, because esp. in the northeast and midwest you'll have counties that are mostly wet but one tiny dry town can flip it to yellow, which is really not the same thing as a "dry county" especially wrt your concerns (having to drive longer distances for booze leading to greater danger on the roads).

In general I'm okay with individual towns and Indian reservations going "dry" if they want but can't really support it at the county level, for the same reasons you give.

Yeah, I was confused by that when I first saw this map, too. For example, in Cook County, which is shown as a mixed county, nearly every locality is "wet", with the only dry community being South Holland, a suburb that was originally founded by Dutch Reformed immigrants. It makes up just under half a percent of Cook County's population.

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That's because alcohol sales in those states are predominantly under state control. In Idaho, sales of packaged alcohol is under control of the state government, and pretty much all alcohol-related laws are made by the state in Utah. Neither of them have actually decided to outright prohibit sales (although they have put restrictions in place on things like how you can sell it and how you can advertise it).

Also, that one mixed county in Nevada only has one dry community, the CDP of Panaca, which is only dry because it was originally part of Utah, and was grandfathered into state law (besides this exception, the state requires each county to issue alcohol licenses).
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2013, 12:19:17 AM »

Quite a few states have laws that don't allow dry counties, Utah and Idaho being two of them. And if you're familiar with their liquor laws the reason is quite obvious, both are "control states" (meaning the state has a monopoly on the wholesaling of alcohol) and thus allowing any counties to go dry would deny the state a source of a income.

Illinois by the way is also a state where the law doesn't allow municipalities to go dry so Cook County should be blue. There is a small town in it that has a law from the 19th century on the books prohibiting liquor sales and stores but state law trumps it and everyone agrees it would be struck down if it was ever actually challenged.

Here are the 17 states that effectively prohibit dry counties:

-Arizona
-Hawaii
-Illinois (though the aforementioned village, South Holland, is able to get around this by not issuing alcohol licenses)
-Indiana
-Iowa
-Maryland
-Missouri
-Montana
-Nebraska
-Nevada (with the exception of Panaca, which is dry via grandfathering)
-North Dakota
-Oklahoma (despite what the map shows, they've apparently enacted alcohol legislation that trumps municipal and county law).
-Oregon
-Pennsylvania
-South Carolina
-Utah
-Wyoming

Also, Idaho allows localities to prohibit on-premises sales, but not off-premises sales, which effectively prevents any "fully" dry localities from existing.
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