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eric82oslo
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« on: November 04, 2015, 04:52:48 PM »
« edited: November 04, 2015, 04:54:52 PM by eric82oslo »

Both extremely wealthy men who appealed to populist sentiments and demogogary and had a tendency to switch parties.

This exact statement could apply to Churchill. It's absurdly vague.

Oswald Mosley was a fascist just like Trump. UK's fascist leader who wanted to transform Britain into a Third Reich utopia a la Hitler's. Are you blind or something? In that case I would advice you to go and see a doctor and maybe he could refer you to an eye surgeon.
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2015, 07:27:28 PM »

Both extremely wealthy men who appealed to populist sentiments and demogogary and had a tendency to switch parties.

This really tells us nothing. However, Trump does match Griffin's definition of fascism extremely closely.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definitions_of_fascism#Roger_Griffin
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"Palingenetic"

Palin genetic

Freaky

I only know this word as genetically Palin, which basically means that you can see Russia from your house.
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 12:48:11 AM »
« Edited: November 05, 2015, 11:04:35 AM by eric82oslo »

Roger Griffin:

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9 out of 10 times I'm really your biggest critic and more, yet this time I'm your biggest fan and more. Smiley
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 11:03:22 AM »

If Trump is a fascist, Hillary is a socialist.

At least every sane human being could reason that it's better to be a socialist (most goods for the most people) than a fascist (only goods for the one O Sole Mighty Leader).
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2015, 11:11:38 AM »

No, he's a pre-2000s moderate Republican. His views and rhetoric blatantly ape Nixon. In fact he was a moderate Democrat until he switched to the Reform Party in 1999, and hasn't substantially changed his views since then, except on abortion and gun control. (And if you think his conversion on the former is genuine, I have a luxury condo in Manhattan to sell ya).

LOL. Are you for real? Or are you a non-human existing human? I bet on the latter. Wink

I've never ever ever ever heard a worse answer than that, that didn't come from an alien.
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2015, 11:14:49 AM »

If Trump is a fascist, Hillary is a socialist.

And? Would it be the dead's end if 300 million Americans got their lives back instead of being slaves of the 3 million richest? Probably not. But of that you know nothing. Maybe you should start studying economics or something so that you at least could take part in the debates? Just a tip. Smiley
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2015, 12:22:38 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2015, 12:34:47 PM by eric82oslo »

In order for Trump's immigration position to be racist, he would have to not want Mexicans in general to come here. Pointing out that we are getting mostly lowlifes who are committing mass crimes is not racist towards Mexicans at all, it's reality. It's amusing that this nonsense comes from the insane progressive left, who view even pointing out that these people are here illegally as offensive. If you people view the U.S. as simply "lines on a map", then your opinions on what is good for the country (that you don't believe should exist) shouldn't matter. Unfortunately, the world caters to leftists for some reason.

So burning 11 million Mexicans in the ovens is not enough for you? Not even slightly racist?

Can some mod please ban this total idiot?

If people are illegal as you claim, then you can go back to the moon or the sun or the Neptune where you came from okey? There's a birth right written in the placenta when you get born which says that no human being is ever illegal. Ever. Only in your crazy extreme far right tea party existence do illegal people exist.
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2015, 12:34:01 PM »


And? Would it be the dead's end if 300 million Americans got their lives back instead of being slaves of the 3 million richest?

Lol. Socialism is the equal sharing of misery, and whenever central planning screws up and does not produce enough food, (which might as well be a certainty at this point) who gets the food? Party members, bureaucrats, and armed enforcers, all while the people starve. Marxism killed tens of millions in the 20th Century, just from inept food planning. Evil capitalist Norman Borlaug saved tens of millions in the 20th Century from starvation despite not being a benevolent Socialist. While I don't intend on voting for him, I'd still take my chances with the moderate reality star ass who is clearly not a Fascist, than a political ideology of violence and death.  

Marxist never killed a single human being, however Stalin, Pol Pot and the multiple dictators of North Korea have already killed tens of millions of their own citizens already, I'm not surprising if it's already approaching 100 million already.

I'm surprised by your post that you're extremely happy that the USA has never been more inequal for almost 100 years, since the 1920ies. Does that fact make your heart beat really fast? Is that basically Your reason for living?
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #8 on: November 05, 2015, 12:37:20 PM »


So burning 11 million Mexicans in the ovens is not enough for you? Not even slightly racist?

Can some mod please ban this total idiot?

Yes Mods, please ban for excessive  hyperbole.

What's the hyperbole except for your own words? Trump's only reason for becoming president, and he can't brag about it enough, is so that he can totally ruin the lives of 11 million Americans and their entire families as well. That's the only reason why he's popular, if you didn't get it already.
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #9 on: November 05, 2015, 01:06:41 PM »

I don't really believe he knows what he is doing (I think he is being opportunistic), but he is being opportunistic in running textbook fascist campaign that perfectly fits that definition above.

Being a fascist does not require you to vilify every single member of an entire race, nor does it require you to put people in ovens and gas chambers. Saying all of your problems are due to these 11 million people of one race and threatening to get rid of them is undeniably fascist.

Anyone who at least doesn't question whether this is fascist is blinded by the idea that "this is America, that would never happen here...."

Hitler never promised to deep fry 5-6 million Jews either, yet he did it beginning with Crystal Night and 99.99% of all Germans were totally flabagasted and shocked when American intelligence finally told them what Hitler's master plan really was. Psychopaths like Trump (and Hitler) never reveal their master plans in advance. There's a quite obvious reason they don't.
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eric82oslo
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 5,501
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E: -6.00, S: -5.65

« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2015, 01:58:58 PM »


So burning 11 million Mexicans in the ovens is not enough for you? Not even slightly racist?

Can some mod please ban this total idiot?

Yes Mods, please ban for excessive  hyperbole.

What's the hyperbole except for your own words? Trump's only reason for becoming president, and he can't brag about it enough, is so that he can totally ruin the lives of 11 million Americans and their entire families as well. That's the only reason why he's popular, if you didn't get it already.

They are not Americans. They are criminals who have broken into a country to leech off it's success that they had no part in creating, and intend  to contribute absolutely nothing to. If these people were coming to America because they wanted an education and to have successful careers, no one would be complaining.

So the only people who actually care to work hard and do the dirty work in America are criminals? Interesting. You learn something every day lol.
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2015, 02:16:14 PM »

A law can be illegal, a human being can not be illegal. Get your facts straight first alright. It's funny that you think that a human being can be illegal. Smiley


If you are trying to argue against nation states, then I think you're several hundred years too late. I did not say a human was illegal, I said an immigrant's status was illegal. Someone's mere presence can be a crime. Just ask trespassers. If I walk into a classified meeting of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, I will have committed a crime. Similarly if an immigrant walks into the country without going through the legal process, they will have committed a crime. You can't escape this by saying "muh iz undocumented not illegal". That's a desperate point of semantics. If this is the only straw you can grasp at, I'd say you're acknowledging that your earlier comparison between deportation and the holocaust was improper.

Well, I'm obviously not American, so I see these things from an international perspective (I've lived in 4 different countries and I'm sure it will be more soon). However I argue exactly the same for my own country Norway. I wish we would be more liberal. That's why I was so happy that Angela Merkel and Pope Francis were the two biggest favourites to win the Nobel Peace Prize this year, cause they both argued that we should be much more hospitable towards refugees. Smiley
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2015, 04:16:59 PM »

Listen to me, all right? eric82oslo is hardcore, I've told you that before. He did time in Pelican Bay because he turned some poor black guy into a Pez dispenser back in his Klan days. I mean, the guy will slay you where you stand just as soon as buy a round or clap you on the back.
Now, when I asked Eric to give me his opinion on President Obama, he said, "Tommy, I've turned out a lot of punks, but I've never seen a high yellow boy as soft as this punk. I mean I'd drive a shank into him just to make a point or if I wanted his corn muffins and he wouldn't give 'em to me off his tray."

Cheesy I need to start frequenting Urban Dictionary again I see. Cheesy
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eric82oslo
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« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2015, 05:05:55 PM »
« Edited: November 05, 2015, 05:12:31 PM by eric82oslo »

Listen to me, all right? eric82oslo is hardcore, I've told you that before. He did time in Pelican Bay because he turned some poor black guy into a Pez dispenser back in his Klan days. I mean, the guy will slay you where you stand just as soon as buy a round or clap you on the back.
Now, when I asked Eric to give me his opinion on President Obama, he said, "Tommy, I've turned out a lot of punks, but I've never seen a high yellow boy as soft as this punk. I mean I'd drive a shank into him just to make a point or if I wanted his corn muffins and he wouldn't give 'em to me off his tray."

Cheesy When I saw the breadth of my domains, I wept, for their was no lebensraum left to conquer. Cheesy
Woah woah woah Eric why the smiles over that? That is terrible!

Cause I love Urban Dictionary? Cheesy

Did you ever read the definition of "trump" on Urban Dictionary? I highly recommend it to say the very least, though I'm afraid it might actually give you a heart attack lol. Wink

Trump

(v) When one forces another to watch Donald Trump for torture purposes.

Hey! If you don't leave me alone, I will trump your sorry ass.


It's pretty epic stuff you see. Wink
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