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President Tyrion
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« on: March 21, 2014, 03:41:23 AM »

I quickly dropped in some stuff about biohazard containment, but I wasn't quite sure how to approach it.

There are a lot of factors we need to consider now that we're not alone, so hopefully we can craft this into sort of an omnibus bill on the topic.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2014, 07:50:33 PM »

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As SOIA I take biological hazards, and all pandemic possibilities as a serious threat.  However, this body should not be working to limit my ability to respond to such threats with the definite article,  "from extraterrestrial contact", nor am I unable to allocate these funds directly. 

Also, keep in mind that these "ships" may not be "extraterrestrial contact."  Putin might have some tricks up his sleeve, after all.

So do you believe federal action is necessary on the topic at all?
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« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2014, 12:55:29 AM »

Well, our government has not verified anything, but I'm wary about leaving a situation unlegislated if it comes to fruition.
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« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2014, 12:57:37 AM »


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« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2014, 04:07:16 PM »

How are other nations responding to this? I'd be interested in seeing how they plan to approach this possibility.

Or is this another one of those crazy media hysterias like Y2K?

Well, the media is always hysterical, after all. I wonder if CNN will ever leave my driveway.
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2014, 06:46:35 PM »

I suppose we can first see if these aliens mean any harm before we start considering other options. I mean, there isn't any precedent for something like this. Tongue

Well, I think the biohazard stuff is important regardless of whether they "mean" harm. Any exposure to their form of symbiotic microbial life could easily result in death. Really, it's small pox blankets times a million.
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« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2014, 03:41:35 AM »

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« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2014, 07:55:23 PM »

Sure, we can clean it up. I just want to prevent ne'er-do-wells from creating widespread public panic over a hoax.
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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2014, 06:52:05 PM »

Yeah, I made them recommended minimums specifically to address that issue.

Freedom of expression is a tricky subject, but I don't know that we should protect the right of those who want to stir a frenzy. Mild comments by Joe Schmoe about aliens, however, are fine.

I'd be glad to consider a rewrite of this clause to reflect that, if anyone would care to bring it forward.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2014, 06:39:48 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2014, 04:53:03 PM »

This hoax was a Chinese military operation. This bill wouldn't change anything except to limit free speech here in Atlasia. We can't prosecute Chinese military in Atlasia unless we take them as POAs.

All we do with this bill is punish people for making hoaxes. It's already illegal for people to make false claims to law enforcement anyway, so if someone calls claiming something that doesn't exist, they may already get punished.

Regardless of whether or not it was the Chinese this time, the fact of the matter is that a private citizen could do such a thing. And we all know things like this spawn copycats.
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2014, 05:48:12 PM »

I highly doubt a private citizen can mimic a full scale military operation like the Chinese. Tongue

But carry on. I'm just trying to protect freedom of speech and expression for our citizens. I don't care about the Chinese. Our laws and constitutional protections don't apply to them.

Well, it doesn't have to be as large scale to induce a panic.

I don't really care for the anti-free-speech posturing. Free speech is not an absolute right. To go back to the old adage, you can't scream "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
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« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2014, 12:18:44 AM »

If someone has an amendment, offer it! We can go from there.
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« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2014, 04:54:17 AM »

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« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2014, 06:12:08 PM »

Sir Tyrion, if I may just intrude
A moment with a question to be asked,
How would one go about determining
"Significant physical or financial harm"?

I think that would have to be left to judicial discretion.
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2014, 05:15:46 AM »

Friendly
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« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2014, 12:28:01 AM »

I'm ready for a final vote.
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« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2014, 12:19:53 AM »


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« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2014, 12:21:36 AM »

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