The latino population

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I thought it was between 4-5%. Something needs to be done about this in our party. Latinos are Republicans but don't know it. If we focus on the free market over the communist and socialist countries they came from combined with social conservative values. I'm sure they'd support school choice.

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I thought it was between 4-5%. Something needs to be done about this in our party. Latinos are Republicans but don't know it. If we focus on the free market over the communist and socialist countries they came from combined with social conservative values. I'm sure they'd support school choice.

The idea that Latinos are natural Republicans, but don't know it is wrong and a tad bit racist.   Latinos support abortion, gay marraige and Obamacare at a rate higher than the national average.

Yes in our country but it's only because Republicans haven't reached out to them. Many Latinos are still getting used to our country and finding out what things are about in greater numbers than non-Latinos. Their ideals of social conservatism as a whole and belief in hard work better fits Republicans.

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I thought it was between 4-5%.

What did you think was 4-5%?

The Latino population.

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I thought it was between 4-5%.

What did you think was 4-5%?

The Latino population.

Ok, I have to admit that's funny, but in fact Romney and the rest of your party do seem to act as if they believe something in that ballpark.

I'm disappointed in our efforts. We need to be reaching out to them through our values and free market ideas. We could be very competitive amongst Latinos.

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We need to be reaching out to them through our values and free market ideas. We could be very competitive amongst Latinos.

No, something like 70%+ of these fellows dislike 'free market idears'...

Yay, more liberal hype.

How's it hype?  Its just some facts that do suggest:

1) an immediate problem in FL
2) a problem coming quite soon in AZ
3) a really terrible problem someday in TX

For your bad party.

So every election depends on the Latino vote now? So everything is going great and glamorous for Democrats while Republicans are going to hell in a hand basket? Nothing can happen to ever turn things around? I think we all know better. Texas and Arizona aren't going anywhere. Florida will continue to vote for winners as it has since the Korean War.

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I thought it was between 4-5%. Something needs to be done about this in our party. Latinos are Republicans but don't know it. If we focus on the free market over the communist and socialist countries they came from combined with social conservative values. I'm sure they'd support school choice.

The idea that Latinos are natural Republicans, but don't know it is wrong and a tad bit racist.   Latinos support abortion, gay marraige and Obamacare at a rate higher than the national average.

Not to mention immigration reform and liberal fiscal policies/social programs. The only argument one could potentially make about Latinos being Republicans who don't know it is that, as a result of their faith and religious convictions, they oppose gay marriage and abortion, that they are cultural conservatives, but we now know even that isn't true.

But polling shows that Latinos support both abortion and gay marrige at a higher level then the general national numbers.

I don't understand what anyone's fascination is about polls. The only thing we can agree on when it comes to polling is that they can be wrong.

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So every election depends on the Latino vote now? So everything is going great and glamorous for Democrats while Republicans are going to hell in a hand basket? Nothing can happen to ever turn things around? I think we all know better. Texas and Arizona aren't going anywhere. Florida will continue to vote for winners as it has since the Korean War.

No buddy, Arizona will swing down the road.. not for a while, but eventually.  FL will start to lean D (not a lot, but enough) quite soon, maybe by 2016, certainly by 2020.

Its more growth statistics that hypes up the democrats because they are now convinced they can get 70% of the Latino vote.

And 70% of them dislike free market ideals... That's ridiculous and almost certainly not true.

It isn't buddy, free market nonsense hasn't been swallowed nearly as much by the Latin culture as our own sad one.  They're literally and in fact mostly quite skeptical of your line of baloney.  Not as much as your former slaves, but, nonetheless, quite skeptical.

It's a tad bit racist to speak for Latinos simply because you're a Democrat. Do you think your party owns an entire race of people to the point you can speak for them? You've been saying Arizona will start to lean Democrat for 20 years and it's stayed pretty much the same. Florida is about the same as it was 60 years ago. There's no change going on and until we see it we shouldn't speak of it other than a "what if" scenario. We can do any "what ifs" we want though.

Arizona

1992 +8
1996 +5
2000 +7
2004 +8
2008 +15*
2012 +12

If I'm not correct there's been a rightward trend? It's gone further to the right in three of the last four elections and would be each of the last four if not for McCain running in 2008. We'd probably be looking at a +10 instead of +15 for Republicans that year.

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I thought it was between 4-5%. Something needs to be done about this in our party. Latinos are Republicans but don't know it. If we focus on the free market over the communist and socialist countries they came from combined with social conservative values. I'm sure they'd support school choice.

The idea that Latinos are natural Republicans, but don't know it is wrong and a tad bit racist.   Latinos support abortion, gay marraige and Obamacare at a rate higher than the national average.

Not to mention immigration reform and liberal fiscal policies/social programs. The only argument one could potentially make about Latinos being Republicans who don't know it is that, as a result of their faith and religious convictions, they oppose gay marriage and abortion, that they are cultural conservatives, but we now know even that isn't true.

But polling shows that Latinos support both abortion and gay marrige at a higher level then the general national numbers.

I don't understand what anyone's fascination is about polls. The only thing we can agree on when it comes to polling is that they can be wrong.

Not when its consistant and from different polling firms.

Ok well one thing we can all agree on is that real votes are more relevant than polling.

1992 +8
1996 +5
2000 +7
2004 +8
2008 +15*
2012 +12

How's that for consistency?

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I thought it was between 4-5%. Something needs to be done about this in our party. Latinos are Republicans but don't know it. If we focus on the free market over the communist and socialist countries they came from combined with social conservative values. I'm sure they'd support school choice.

The idea that Latinos are natural Republicans, but don't know it is wrong and a tad bit racist.   Latinos support abortion, gay marraige and Obamacare at a rate higher than the national average.

Not to mention immigration reform and liberal fiscal policies/social programs. The only argument one could potentially make about Latinos being Republicans who don't know it is that, as a result of their faith and religious convictions, they oppose gay marriage and abortion, that they are cultural conservatives, but we now know even that isn't true.

But polling shows that Latinos support both abortion and gay marrige at a higher level then the general national numbers.

I don't understand what anyone's fascination is about polls. The only thing we can agree on when it comes to polling is that they can be wrong.

Not when its consistant and from different polling firms.

Ok well one thing we can all agree on is that real votes are more relevant than polling.

1992 +8
1996 +5
2000 +7
2004 +8
2008 +15*
2012 +12

How's that for consistency?

I wasn't debating Arizona. I think it will flip or become competative at some point, but not for at least 10-15 years.

You think the trend will reverse soon? I'm sorry I think I meant to post it in another thread.

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I thought it was between 4-5%. Something needs to be done about this in our party. Latinos are Republicans but don't know it. If we focus on the free market over the communist and socialist countries they came from combined with social conservative values. I'm sure they'd support school choice.

My husband's family is not Republican at all. None of them. None of their family friends. Sure, they're Californian latinos, but still. Even my husband's 70+ year old immigrant grandparents support abortion, same-sex marriage, and attend mass like more than once a week in Spanish. And you should see the young generation. How many latinos do you know personally?

I knew a few conservative ones when I lived in Florida. Since then Latinos I've met are liberal.