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« on: August 02, 2013, 05:11:51 PM »

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Another comment by the anti-science left. This is truly a monstrous view that allows for infanticide both before and after birth. In Ms. Perry's eyes, it's ok to smother an infant if Mommy & Daddy don't want the child.  For many on the pro-choice side, this is ultimately what abortion is all about; not cases of rape/incest, not the mother's life, but rather they do not want anyone to be inconvenienced by the consequences of their actions and are prepared to snuff out the most vulnerable among is to achieve that end.

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If only Democrats followed their thoughts to conclusion. This would lead to life ends when the parents say it ends. Uh oh, now we can allow parents to suffocate their children under the age of 2 because they're less cognisient than an adult ape or dolphin. Tell me there isn't a single liberal out there who doesn't think such things? Van Jones seems to agree with this notion of backwards thinking.
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2013, 06:48:50 PM »

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Another comment by the anti-science left. This is truly a monstrous view that allows for infanticide both before and after birth. In Ms. Perry's eyes, it's ok to smother an infant if Mommy & Daddy don't want the child.  For many on the pro-choice side, this is ultimately what abortion is all about; not cases of rape/incest, not the mother's life, but rather they do not want anyone to be inconvenienced by the consequences of their actions and are prepared to snuff out the most vulnerable among is to achieve that end.

Kyrie eleison

You can watch the clip here

If only Democrats followed their thoughts to conclusion. This would lead to life ends when the parents say it ends. Uh oh, now we can allow parents to suffocate their children under the age of 2 because they're less cognisient than an adult ape or dolphin. Tell me there isn't a single liberal out there who doesn't think such things? Van Jones seems to agree with this notion of backwards thinking.

I'm trying to be respectful here, but this has to be one of the most ridiculous strawmen I have ever heard in my life. Yes, Perry's comments are vague and unfortunate, but there is a very fine line between giving women control of their own bodies and constantly thinking of strangling children, and I would seriously hope you're intelligent and mentally healthy enough to understand that.

You might be taking me out of context. I'm arguing that there is a fine line, but we can't just make things up as we go by saying things like "life begins when parents say." The law needs to be clear and apply to everyone. All I was saying is how absurd her comment was.
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2013, 05:02:52 PM »

I am friends with a married couple who recently had an abortion.  They already have two kids, one of whom has had significant medical problems which required multiple surgeries.  And my friends are not in the best financial position.

This third pregnancy was not planned.  After both crunching the numbers and doing some soul searching, they decided to terminate the pregnancy.  They just didn't feel they could take it on and they wanted to be the best parents they could to the two kids they've got.

I suppose you could say that the decision was made for the sake of convenience.  But I did not think it was ridiculous and selfish.  I think it was responsible.

The physical, emotional and financial costs of pregnancy and parenthood are not insignificant.  In my opinion, it is too great a burden to be borne unconsenting.

Obviously if they didn't want (or couldn't afford) another kid, then they should have only had sex twice in their entire lives.

And when they did have sex, it could only be when they were married and the man had to be on top in the missionary position.

After that, they were supposed to become celibate monks and nuns.

That is the conservative solution.

No it's not there are other forms of protection.
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« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2013, 08:30:41 PM »

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Another comment by the anti-science left. This is truly a monstrous view that allows for infanticide both before and after birth. In Ms. Perry's eyes, it's ok to smother an infant if Mommy & Daddy don't want the child.  For many on the pro-choice side, this is ultimately what abortion is all about; not cases of rape/incest, not the mother's life, but rather they do not want anyone to be inconvenienced by the consequences of their actions and are prepared to snuff out the most vulnerable among is to achieve that end.

Kyrie eleison

You can watch the clip here

I guess if Melissa Harris Perry said it, then it must be true. Folks this is the liberalism we're dealing with. Now I've started a partisan rant. Whose in?
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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2013, 06:34:42 PM »

Do conservatives think that the decision to abort a baby is something people make lightly on a whim? I get that feeling all the time when I read anti-choice screeds on here.

You don't feel passionate about the issue for your side? When humans feel passionate about something, they get emotional so words aren't always in the best order and many humans say things they don't mean or say things in a way that sounds condescending. It happens and we're humans. I don't see the need to demonize other humans by raising the question of whether or not they think people take abortion lightly. Some may think that about women who have had abortions, but most humans who are pro-life are against killing an unborn human and there's not much more to it. I know it's not as fun as demonizing other humans, but sometimes it's very simple and things aren't that exciting.
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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2013, 10:53:51 PM »

Something tells me neither side will ever agree on this. (Sarcasm; I already knew that.)
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