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barfbag
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« on: July 31, 2013, 12:05:36 AM »

Here is my driving bill:

Learners must hold their permit for minimum of 9 months.
Minimum of 45 hours behind the wheel before testing.
Minimum of 15 hours of driving at night before testing.
Minors may not transport more than one minor passenger for the first 6 months of being licensed.
Minors may not transport more than three passengers at any time until age 18.
Minors subject to curfew from midnight until 4:00a.m.
Minors may apply for a learner's permit at 15 years, 9 months.
Drivers must have their license renewed every 8 years.
Drivers must pass the driver's test every 8 years in order to weed out bad elderly drivers.
All vehicles must hold a breathalyzer prior to being able to start the ignition to cut back on DUI's.
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barfbag
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 10:15:19 PM »

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Minors may not transport more than one minor passenger for the first 6 months of being licensed.
Minors may not transport more than three passengers at any time until age 18.
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How would you enforce these? You can't have the cops pulling over every car with multiple passengers...

It's pretty simple. In a lot of states it's illegal to not wear a seat belt, but you'll only get a citation for it if you're pulled over for something else. Like right now cops wouldn't be pulling over every car with multiple people.
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barfbag
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2013, 10:19:43 PM »

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Minors may not transport more than one minor passenger for the first 6 months of being licensed.
Minors may not transport more than three passengers at any time until age 18.
...

How would you enforce these? You can't have the cops pulling over every car with multiple passengers...

Yeah, these laws aren’t enforced at all. I got my  license in September 2012, and under Indiana law you can’t have anyone outside your immediate family in the car with you for 6 months after you first get your license. So while I was only *legally* allowed to drive people in March, I actually started driving people 3 days after. Virtually every single school day, and plenty on weekends.

Not one person I know follows that law. Not. One. Person.


No you would have to be pulled over for something else in order to get a citation for it. It's a law you can't be out to enforce unless something else is done to warrant being pulled over.
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barfbag
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2013, 12:17:36 AM »

Having people retest every 8 years would weed out reckless old drivers without having to discriminate based on age.
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barfbag
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2013, 01:23:57 PM »

While we're on tractors, I saw a guy ride his tractor through the drive-thru a few months ago.
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barfbag
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2013, 09:04:14 PM »

In addition to expanding access to public transportation, we should really do something about auto insurance rates, which are ridiculous and predatory, not to mention discriminatory in many cases. I know a lot of Canadian provinces have something like public auto insurance; that sounds like something that would be a much easier sell in the United States than some of the suggestions here.

I don't want the federal government screwing up my car insurance. Those who are at fault in 5 accidents every other year with 2 D.U.I.'s should pay more than an adult with no accidents on their record regardless of income. Driving is a privilege not a right. Besides, if we're going to subsidize public transportation for those who can't afford it, what's the point of messing with insurance rates. People with better driving records should pay less than those with poor driving records.
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barfbag
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2013, 04:44:21 PM »

The sight of a twelve year old driving a tractor on a country lane is quite terrifying, btw. Sort of thing that needs cracking down on.

my grandfather (born 1930) claims he drove work trucks at age 11 because all the men were in the military.

My grandfather was born in 1931 and said he was driving down the highway by age 15 in farm trucks, but didn't have a driver's license until he was 21. I think of him when hearing of whether or not seniors should drive. We're likely close in age I'd presume? Does anyone else think we should retest every 8 years or so in order to weed out bad drivers and save lives?
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