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« on: July 30, 2013, 09:01:54 PM »

How freaking naïve are you people on the left to actually believe a hype started by politicians to get votes? No wonder you people voted for Obama. Just because your party starts a slogan doesn't mean you should rush to the cause. Think first. Not every Republican panicked when the Homeland Security Department raised the terror alert level? Stop believing everything politicians and the media tries to put into your mind.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2013, 11:20:08 PM »

Anyone who buys into the "war on women" is a stupid assclown who must believe every single thing they hear from every single person. If there's one type of person not to be trusted it's politicians and the "war on women" was made up of Democratic politicians to win in 2012. It's nothing more than a strawman. I hope those of you who fall for the war on terror also bought into the terror alert color charts and WMD intelligence. Or is it just when the Democratic Party says something that you fall head over heals for their talking points? Either way you guys are complete morons with nothing better to do than quote what your party wants you to or you're just totally stupid.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2013, 08:21:46 AM »

war on women = strawman
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2013, 10:08:47 PM »


A progressive think tank is documenting the Democratic Party line?!?!?!

In other news I'd like to point out the Stormfront has documented the War on Whites, the NRA has documented the War on Guns, FOX has documented the War on Christmas etc.

They've documented the many laws that have been passed as part of the WoW across the nation. Do you dispute the accuracy or just making an ad hominem attack?

The use of the word war is used to strike up fire within the base.
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2013, 07:05:14 PM »

Are you all aware that there is no gender gap on the issue of abortion? In other words, did you know that men are no more anti-abortion than women are? In fact, women may actually be more anti-abortion than men are, with 45% of men saying abortion is morally wrong compared to 49% of women in a Pew Research poll.

Also, even in this past election when the gender gap was rather high, 44% of women voted for Romney. This statistic alone makes it difficult to argue that the GOP hates women.

Married women actually tend to vote Republican. It's single women that Republicans need to make inroads with.

A 55%-44% loss with female voters is not a statistic I would be bragging about.

As for the GOP attitude toward women ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCOYvh0FFYI

LOL, good luck making inroads with single women.  And it is worth pointing out that single women are a growing demographic, a fact sometimes overlooked in discussions about demographic changes.



What you just said in so many words was "44% of women voted for Romney therefore, the GOP hates women." Then you back it up with a selective youtube video. You're saying then that the 55% of women who voted for Obama didn't because of the issues and how Obama's policies favor women, but because they think the GOP hates women? You don't seem to give women enough credit. They are just as capable as men at looking at the issues and deciding which policies are better for the country, themselves, and their families. I hope you're married if not good luck making inroads with single women because the thought of women casting votes because they actually think one party hates them is pretty shallow.
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2013, 12:35:48 AM »

Are you all aware that there is no gender gap on the issue of abortion? In other words, did you know that men are no more anti-abortion than women are? In fact, women may actually be more anti-abortion than men are, with 45% of men saying abortion is morally wrong compared to 49% of women in a Pew Research poll.

Also, even in this past election when the gender gap was rather high, 44% of women voted for Romney. This statistic alone makes it difficult to argue that the GOP hates women.

Married women actually tend to vote Republican. It's single women that Republicans need to make inroads with.

A 55%-44% loss with female voters is not a statistic I would be bragging about.

As for the GOP attitude toward women ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCOYvh0FFYI

LOL, good luck making inroads with single women.  And it is worth pointing out that single women are a growing demographic, a fact sometimes overlooked in discussions about demographic changes.



What you just said in so many words was "44% of women voted for Romney therefore, the GOP hates women." Then you back it up with a selective youtube video. You're saying then that the 55% of women who voted for Obama didn't because of the issues and how Obama's policies favor women, but because they think the GOP hates women? You don't seem to give women enough credit. They are just as capable as men at looking at the issues and deciding which policies are better for the country, themselves, and their families. I hope you're married if not good luck making inroads with single women because the thought of women casting votes because they actually think one party hates them is pretty shallow.

Well, that is the best piece of comedy gold response to one of my posts I have seen in awhile.  Did you find the sexist and misogynistic statements made by Republican elected officials in that video upsetting?  I personally found it quite offensive.  

There's things that have been said on both sides of the aisle. Anyone can pick and choose what they look at and use for political propaganda. Politicians can always quote Richard Blumenthal. "I will not allow a few misplaced words" and then be ok with their base. I think you know both parties are guilty of saying outlandish things. You show the mindset of one party is great and the other evil. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2013, 12:39:21 AM »

Are you all aware that there is no gender gap on the issue of abortion? In other words, did you know that men are no more anti-abortion than women are? In fact, women may actually be more anti-abortion than men are, with 45% of men saying abortion is morally wrong compared to 49% of women in a Pew Research poll.

Also, even in this past election when the gender gap was rather high, 44% of women voted for Romney. This statistic alone makes it difficult to argue that the GOP hates women.

Married women actually tend to vote Republican. It's single women that Republicans need to make inroads with.

A 55%-44% loss with female voters is not a statistic I would be bragging about.

As for the GOP attitude toward women ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCOYvh0FFYI

LOL, good luck making inroads with single women.  And it is worth pointing out that single women are a growing demographic, a fact sometimes overlooked in discussions about demographic changes.



What you just said in so many words was "44% of women voted for Romney therefore, the GOP hates women." Then you back it up with a selective youtube video. You're saying then that the 55% of women who voted for Obama didn't because of the issues and how Obama's policies favor women, but because they think the GOP hates women? You don't seem to give women enough credit. They are just as capable as men at looking at the issues and deciding which policies are better for the country, themselves, and their families. I hope you're married if not good luck making inroads with single women because the thought of women casting votes because they actually think one party hates them is pretty shallow.

Well, that is the best piece of comedy gold response to one of my posts I have seen in awhile.  Did you find the sexist and misogynistic statements made by Republican elected officials in that video upsetting?  I personally found it quite offensive.  

And your statement still comes down to 55% of women voted for Obama because they think Republicans hate women which is a very low opinion of women. I hope you're married because if not good luck making inroads with single women. People vote based on their perception of how things are going in the country and which candidate they think is best not because they're dumb enough to fall for the "war on women."
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« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2013, 01:53:00 AM »

Are you all aware that there is no gender gap on the issue of abortion? In other words, did you know that men are no more anti-abortion than women are? In fact, women may actually be more anti-abortion than men are, with 45% of men saying abortion is morally wrong compared to 49% of women in a Pew Research poll.

Also, even in this past election when the gender gap was rather high, 44% of women voted for Romney. This statistic alone makes it difficult to argue that the GOP hates women.

Married women actually tend to vote Republican. It's single women that Republicans need to make inroads with.

A 55%-44% loss with female voters is not a statistic I would be bragging about.

As for the GOP attitude toward women ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCOYvh0FFYI

LOL, good luck making inroads with single women.  And it is worth pointing out that single women are a growing demographic, a fact sometimes overlooked in discussions about demographic changes.



What you just said in so many words was "44% of women voted for Romney therefore, the GOP hates women." Then you back it up with a selective youtube video. You're saying then that the 55% of women who voted for Obama didn't because of the issues and how Obama's policies favor women, but because they think the GOP hates women? You don't seem to give women enough credit. They are just as capable as men at looking at the issues and deciding which policies are better for the country, themselves, and their families. I hope you're married if not good luck making inroads with single women because the thought of women casting votes because they actually think one party hates them is pretty shallow.

Well, that is the best piece of comedy gold response to one of my posts I have seen in awhile.  Did you find the sexist and misogynistic statements made by Republican elected officials in that video upsetting?  I personally found it quite offensive.  

And your statement still comes down to 55% of women voted for Obama because they think Republicans hate women which is a very low opinion of women. I hope you're married because if not good luck making inroads with single women. People vote based on their perception of how things are going in the country and which candidate they think is best not because they're dumb enough to fall for the "war on women."

You did not answer the question about the video.  So can we take your non-response to mean that you are comfortable with what the Republican officials were saying?  When Erick Erickson says, "When you look at biology, look at the natural world, the roles of male and female in society, the male is typically the dominant role" -- you are fine with that?  When Sen. Chambliss is talking about rapes in the military and says "the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur" -- you're fine with that?



Look I know liberals try to change history but historically, males have had the role of going to get what's needed for the family whether it be hunting and gathering or going to work every morning. Females have stayed to nurture the couple's or family's environment. This doesn't mean one gender is greater than the other. Not only is this particular to humans but most other species as well. Yes I am fine with our recorded history and what is natural to our genders. Rape is horrible and his comments are partisanship at its worst. Partisanship is what causes Democrats to paint a picture of Republicans hating women. It's what causes people like Patty Murray to raise the question of why Bin Laden is "popular" in poor countries. Do you really think women are naïve enough to buy into the strawman of the "war on women?"
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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2013, 06:25:14 PM »

I hate how people judge a group based on their 'diversity'.

Who gives a flying crap if they have 100% males or 100% females. I thought we lived in a country where 'whats on the inside' is what really matters. Its how and what they do, not who they are.....

You're not serious are you?  Two things.

1) On average are Republican lawmakers more qualified or more competent than Democratic law makers?

2)  If you say they are equally competent do you think it is just statistical chance that overall there are more females represented in the Democratic law making ranks or do you think there is an issue within the Republican party that needs to be addressed.

When you see that big of a disparity I think you common sense demands that you examine why it exists.  It could just be random chance, but you still need to look at it.

All he's saying is we live in a country where it's the inside that matters. Whether or not someone is male or female shouldn't determine whether or not they are hired for a position or elected to office. It doesn't mean that voters don't like women, but that they have thought men were better suited for governorships in recent years. You mentioned females being more Democratic, but what about males being more Republican? There are two genders to be represented. Are you saying Democrats should also look at why more men tend to vote Republican or just Republicans need to look at why more women vote Democrat? Common sense should then dictate that both parties need to look at why they do poorly with one gender or another.

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2013, 07:01:58 PM »

All he's saying is we live in a country where it's the inside that matters. Whether or not someone is male or female shouldn't determine whether or not they are hired for a position or elected to office. It doesn't mean that voters don't like women, but that they have thought men were better suited for governorships in recent years.

Uh, it is not by chance that men control 45 out of the 50 governor-ships. It's not because voters "thought men were better suited." Women still face systematic disadvantages to getting elected to office just as with all other positions of power.

I agree gender alone shouldn't decide why someone should be hired, but I don't believe anyone has said that it should. However, I believe there are cultural factors, in the Democratic party at least, that would make political activism more hospital and welcoming to women, and having more women in elected positions would do a lot to push those factors. Also, women do tend to be stronger when it comes to women's issues because they speak from experience.

So you know exactly what the voters were thinking? I have news, the Democrats just want your vote. The "war on women" is nothing more than a strawman. Politicians do want votes believer it or not. What about men speaking about men's issues? Is there such a thing? Why not? Just because the Democrats wouldn't like a man speaking about "men's issues" doesn't mean we should be censored from it. I'm sorry to come off so strong but I feel very strongly against Democrats using women as strawmen in order to get elected to office. It's not right and only us Republicans seem smart enough to realize it because if Democrats realized the strawman, then there wouldn't be "war on women" talking points.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2013, 02:40:42 PM »

barfbag,

I don't disagree that the "war on women" meme is too partisan. I consider Ted Cruz and Rand Paul to be bigger supporters of women than Tim Kaine, since they side with rape victims' advocates over the military industrial complex, while Kaine does the opposite. Sure, Kaine is pro choice while Cruz and Paul are pro life, but abortion rights aren't up for a vote in the Senate. Kaine's on the Armed Services committee and he could make a bigger difference on how the military handles sexual assault, but he chooses not to.

CTRattlesnake,
It's a bit naive to say we're at a point in society where we no longer consider gender while 75-80% of Congress is just naturally male by chance. We still socialize politics as a "man's game" (just look at this forum) so it's a good thing when we get more women elected to office. It's not about male vs. female per se as justice. If men were underrepresented it would be a huge problem too, just from the other perspective.

Men and women are equal under the law and have equal representation in office. Congress is supposed to be fair to all. If not, then it's up to the voters to elect someone else. The nature of politics does play into things that men tend to be stronger on such as making deals and being slick. There's issues in politics that women are stronger on too such as reaching out to people and listening to others, but by nature government just plays into what men are stronger at more than women. Men and women are not identical but both are equal.
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