2004 Senate campaign predictions

[Nym90]

The South Dakota Senate race was stolen in 2002? Yes, I'd like to hear what your basis for that accusation is, and also your explanation of why Thune didn't demand a recount.

[Nym90]

Well, if there were irregularities, then Thune should have demanded a recount. I utterly fail to see how he is putting the state ahead of himself, or doing what's best for the state, by not demanding a recount. If the election was stolen, it's a lot worse for the state to allow that to occur than it is to demand a recount. Same thing with Nixon in 1960, that argument just doesn't make any sense at all when you think about it, and because of this I'm inclined to think that it is just cover for someone who wants people to believe that he was cheated when he really wasn't. If Thune had demand a recount and lost, he would have looked like a sore loser and then he wouldn't be able to rile up the party base with the whole "we was robbed" argument.
Just because that one county reported late for Johnson is not enough evidence directly of a conspiracy. Was the vote total way out of line with what would otherwise have been expected, given past election results there? As for allegations of fraud before the election, are there specific allegations of who, what, when, where, and how it happened?
I don't profess to be an expert at all on what went on in South Dakota, but given the fact that the GOP controls the state government and the federal justice department, they should have launched an investigation if they felt that they were cheated.

[Nym90]

The whole issue of Thune losing due to voter fraud is complete BS. RNC chairman Ed Gillespie was even asked about the allegations on CNN's Inside Politics, and he said that Thune didn't challenge the results and thus Gillespie would assume that Thune himself knew best what happened there. The state is otherwise completely controlled by the GOP politically and thus you would have had no problems getting an investigation and getting people thrown in prison if it were true. That's just a complete lie. Even the GOP establishment admits the election wasn't stolen.

[Nym90]

Then produce names, dates, times, and places. Produce specific allegations against specific people. Or, if you can't do that, then shut up about it. I'm sorry to be so blunt, but you can't just cry voter fraud unless you have specific charges and the proof to back them up. You need to be able to say who did it, when, and how. Provide actual names of deceased people who voted, and then provide proof that said person was dead on election day.
I'm not saying for you to go out and do the research, but since you believe the charges I assume that you can point me to a site where someone has?

[Nym90]

Well, the same standards apply to Democrats trying to accuse the Republicans of fraud in Florida. Plus, I don't ever recall anyone charging anything as serious as dead people voting in Florida, or anything like that.

I don't believe that there was election fraud in Florida, but I do believe that Gore was the rightful winner of the state. I don't think that anyone tampered with any ballots or that there were any attempts to otherwise doctor the totals, but I do believe that votes that were cast legitimately were not counted. That's a bit less serious charge than what is being charged in South Dakota, though.

[Nym90]

Wow, DarthKosh, the depth of logical analysis of your posts on this topic is simply astounding.

Maybe, if you just keep repeating it often enough without offering any proof whatsoever, people will start to believe you.