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« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2019, 05:30:51 PM »
Quote from: Filuwaúrdjan on March 21, 2019, 05:07:20 PM
Quote from: Silent Hunter on March 21, 2019, 04:43:55 PM
Well, that gives us a bit more time for sanity to prevail.

You always were an optimist.

Which is odd, because my stock response to the "glass half full or empty" questions is "half full, but the water will evaporate".
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2019, 05:52:34 PM »
Tusk confirms May has agreed to this. Now she all needs to do is get the leaving date changed via Statutory Instrument. Interesting to see how many rebels on that.
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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2019, 05:56:03 PM »
Well, it does give the option for a longer one, but it would need a decision on European Parliament elections at that point and an indication to EU27 of way forward.
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« Reply #28 on: March 22, 2019, 02:37:52 AM »
Callaghan fought the General Election in 1979 after all.
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« Reply #29 on: March 22, 2019, 05:48:14 AM »
Christopher Davies (Conservative, Brecon and Radnorshire) has just pleaded guilty to two expenses fraud charges.
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« Reply #30 on: March 22, 2019, 06:17:23 AM »
We need to pass the necessary legislation for the EP elections by then anyway.
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« Reply #31 on: March 22, 2019, 06:38:18 AM »
That's kind of the idea of the Cooper/Boles/Benn amendment.
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« Reply #32 on: March 22, 2019, 06:51:12 AM »
At the very least. If he doesn't resign first. Also, Lib Dems held that seat until 2015.
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2019, 02:25:04 PM »
Don't we need to pass secondary legislation?
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« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2019, 06:42:11 AM »
The last Chartist petition of 1848 had six million, although there were some fake names on that. It took seventy years to achieve five of its six goals; the annual elections one hasn't happened yet.
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2019, 07:34:38 AM »
The 7 May date was seemingly dropped when it was pointed out that the following day was VE Day.
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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2019, 12:59:22 PM »
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Yes, the public holiday marking the end of the war and the liberation of the country from a bunch of Germans...

You can see the symbolism from a mile off.

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Didn't take part in the march today for various reasons, some of which I won't go into. While I did sign a People's Vote petition a while back, I'm not comfortable with a straight revoking of A50.

For one thing, if A50 was revoked without a referendum, what stops a future government from just invoking it again?
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« Reply #37 on: March 23, 2019, 04:39:46 PM »
Thatcher was basically told to go in 1990 after failing to end the leadership contest in the first round.

Whatever happens re Brexit, it won't end the issue, I agree. it was too close.
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« Reply #38 on: March 23, 2019, 05:30:38 PM »
May can't face a leadership challenge until December.
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« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2019, 05:59:47 PM »
They wouldn't resign the whip, but they might well resign their Cabinet posts.
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« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2019, 06:32:11 PM »
The political damage would be too great, really.
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« Reply #41 on: March 24, 2019, 05:43:06 AM »
I'd imagine most people outside the country have never heard of David Lidington. He's Deputy Prime Minister in all but name; some PMs specifically allocate the title, some don't.

Privately educated, PhD at Cambridge (Sidney Sussex), University Challenge winner with his college back in 1979, MP since 1992 and with a face rather good for cartoonists:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lidington#/media/File:Official_portrait_of_Mr_David_Lidington_crop_2.jpg
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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2019, 07:40:53 AM »
3. Agree. A full leadership contest would have exposed her delivery flaws and allowed them to be worked on ahead of a general election.
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« Reply #43 on: March 25, 2019, 03:53:55 PM »
The thing is, the DUP haven't even got the money - which was extra government spending for Northern Ireland that sorely needs it - because it needs an active Northern Ireland Executive and Assembly. Also, NI can't properly plan for a No Deal unless Stormont starts up again or Direct Rule is imposed.
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« Reply #44 on: March 25, 2019, 05:00:18 PM »
Richard Harrington (Con, Watford) appears to have resigned as a government minister.
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« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2019, 05:55:55 PM »
The main motion as amended passed 327 to 300.
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« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2019, 09:35:37 AM »
Nope, the DUP aren't supporting it. The ERG is not a unified group.
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« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2019, 02:11:30 PM »
The thing is, that by the time any Canada deal is done (and in practice many goods would remain EU standards compliant), the Tories are likely to be out of government... and it would still need an open border in ireland.
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« Reply #48 on: March 27, 2019, 03:59:09 AM »
if anything, they've hardened their stance.
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« Reply #49 on: March 27, 2019, 06:43:43 AM »
Which would be the last day under the current A50 extension for the WA to be approved for a 22 May exit.
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