UK General Discussion Thread: mayy lmao

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but I can really see Kahn deciding tht 4 years is enough and getting reselected for a parliamentary seat at the 2020 election, either to a major cabinet position or front runner for leadership and picking up the pieces after a defeat

Eddie Izzard has declared an interest in running for the position in 2020 in the past. Yes, that Eddie Izzard.

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Yes, horrifying news. I'm aware of Britain First; seen quite a few people I know reposting their bile on Facebook.

52-year old man was arrested on the scene.

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Utterly horrible.

Rest in Peace.

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Chris Bryant has gone and written a barnstormer of a resignation letter.

Seriously, it's like the Red Wedding tonight.

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I'm interested in who (if anybody in the immediate term) will take Ian Murray's position, as he's the only Scottish Labour MP left.

That sort of thing has never stopped the Tories before.

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Chris Bryant has gone and written a barnstormer of a resignation letter.

Link?

Here

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Boris John won't be standing the the Conservative leadership. Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-36570120

Boris Johnson not being the next permanent leader of the Conservative Party is actually a bigger surprise to me than the UK voting to leave the European Union (although they're both directly related).

Theresa May is the favourite now; didn't think we'd get a second female PM that quickly...

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Another ringing endorsement of sorts.

Agree. Corbyn hasn't done anything like enough to stop those who call people with legitimate concerns about him 'traitors', 'Red Tories' etc. Or subject a Jewish MP to anti-Semitic abuse at an event announcing a report on anti-Semitism.

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Of course it will haunt him; anyone who has taken another human life, however justified, is generally haunted by it in some form.

He will probably believe he did the right thing up to the Pearly Gates, but i imagine even he has his moments of doubt.

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Can you do a coup in a party small enough to fit in a minibus?

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He used to manage West Ham and he did get a lot of complaints about being a long-ball merchant.

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Yes. Rest in Peace, Sir Antony.

As to Traingate, I was on a much more crowded train than that from Leeds to London one time - I was returning from an event in Harrogate earlier than my reserved train from York. I chose to fork out the £25 to upgrade to First Class. Interestingly the trip out to York saw me delayed by twenty minutes and miss my connection, resulting in a total delay of an hour. Virgin Trains East Coast then took ages to give me my full refund, but they did compensate me with £100 of travel vouchers.

Also, in other cases, I have seen people haven't taken their reserved seats and sat down in them myself.

Also, I strongly suspect the VTEC people saw he was sitting in the vestibule (which people do even when there are seats available if they have a lot of luggage) and realised the PR problem hence the shuffling about.

Train crew knows more about PR than Leader of the Opposition. Go figure...

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The Mail, Express and Sun today are an utter disgrace.

"Enemies of the people" is the kind of language used by dictatorships about people they don't like.

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So the BBC apparently thinks that the revelation that some Prince is dating some actress I've never heard of (and that he hates that the media is harassing her)

I watch Suits myself and so I had definitely heard of her. The Daily Mail has been going on about her 'racy scenes', which are tame compared to the sort of ones done by (often British) actors in shows like Game of Thrones.

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Tbh Ed Balls

Who will soon seen by thousands on the Strictly Come Dancing tour... funny old year this.

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/brexit-god-given-chance-steal-9514138

It should kill delusions of grandeur among Brexiteers that the US under Trump will give post-Brexit UK a sweetheart trade deal. But it probably won't.

We don't have a sweetheart trade deal with anyone at present tbh.

Except for the EU...

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Martin McGuiness resigns as Deputy NI First Minister, taking down power sharing executive

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Great guy. Rest in Peace.

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This is cheap. I am cheap. I laughed.

Guess I'm cheap as well...

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So Tony, if you were a member of the Wisconsin legislature in 2007, would you fight to instate the death penalty? If you were an official in California's government around 2012 or so, would you fight against legalizing gay marriage?

...seriously?

The analogies fit. Wisconsin voted to reinstate the death penalty in 2006. California voted to ban gay marriage via Prop 8.

In the UK House of Commons, those are considered conscience issues and they generally aren't even whipped votes.

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The Conservatives had a lot of their long-servers defeated in the 1997 election, I believe and many of the current party are  2001 or 2005 intake members. So younger. Most of Labour's 1997 intake didn't hold their seats past 2005 and there was of course the mass defeat in Scotland in 2015.

I read Kaufman's How to be a Minister at university. Good book.

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Unless of course you'll count his one year under Wilson as the Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Environment.

Which is the lowest actual ministerial rank of course.

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An interesting character for sure. RIP.

Following the 2015 general election, four MPs (Kaufman, Meacher, Skinner and Clarke) were tied for the longest continuous service with all having first been elected in 1970. Two of those have since passed away (Meacher of course being the other).

It seems random when the MPs, taking seats on the same day, are being sworn-in. U.S. House uses alphabetical order, but since Kaufman was after Clarke, it must not be a case.

Is there a tie-breaker or just "you snooze you lose?"

Does that make Skinner Father of the House then?

Edit: No, it's Clarke. He was sworn in before hand.

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Shots fired outside Parliament. A police officer apparently stabbed.

It's being treated as a terrorist incident by the Met. Exactly one year after the attack in Brussels as well.

Also of people being run down by a vehicle on Westminster Bridge, which appears to have been part of the same attack.

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UKIP has done its job now... it has gotten us out of the EU.