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ElectionsGuy
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« on: October 04, 2013, 04:15:34 PM »

Public opinion is notoriously unreliable. Most people contradict themselves. Public opinion also is subject to political manipulation.

Specific policy questions reveal, however, that Americans support what the GOP opposes, by and large-which includes the contents of "Obamacare."

So your actually saying that polling is wrong or people are wrong or manipulated to defend this? That is pathetic. If people support the individual bits and pieces of the law, why don't I see any polls on them?

Obamacare will have 60+% approval in less than a year when low income whites realize that the Tea Party was openly lying about their bill going up and the economy crashing.

Do you have anything to back this up? In less than a year approval will go from 40% to 60%?


Also, if I may add, Vosem is making intelligent and rational arguments, why in the hell is he getting so much criticism? Because he makes some center-right statements that make sense?
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ElectionsGuy
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« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2013, 08:27:27 PM »

Public opinion is notoriously unreliable. Most people contradict themselves. Public opinion also is subject to political manipulation.

Specific policy questions reveal, however, that Americans support what the GOP opposes, by and large-which includes the contents of "Obamacare."

So your actually saying that polling is wrong or people are wrong or manipulated to defend this? That is pathetic. If people support the individual bits and pieces of the law, why don't I see any polls on them?

Do I really have to bring up polls showing how many people supporting not discriminating against people with pre-existing conditions and keeping kids under the age of 26 on their parent's plan? You can't find that on your own? I need to do your research for you?

No you don't need to show it to me or anything, I didn't mean to imply it like that. What I meant was, with the massive amount of time that I look at polls and studying them, why haven't I seen any individual parts of the law polled? Maybe I'm just not looking right, or blind, but I haven't seen any polls on different parts yet. And yes, some obvious parts will be approved of, others won't.

Because people have literally been scammed by Tea Party lies, guarantees that Obamacare will skyrocket premiums and destroy the entire economy.

People who pay close attention already know those are false, and everyone else will slowly realize over the next year that their bill either only went up a little bit (like it does every year anyway), or went down noticeably thanks to subsidies.  Ironically, the poor whites who make up the majority of the Tea Party are going to be benefiting the most from Obamacare, and many of them will change their tune when they realize they were duped.

Objectively, Obamacare is good policy, and America will realize that after they've had it for a year.  And at that point, Republicans will almost certainly start campaigning on "Of course it worked -- it was always a Republican/conservative policy!!"

Since we can't predict the future, I can't argue against this. I'll take your word for it and we'll see...
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