The elephant in the room - Donald Trump's physical and mental deterioration

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On top of that, Trump has clearly had mental and drug issues for years that can be compounded by dementia.

What drug issues? I thought all he was taking was a cholesterol drug (unless they're lying about that).

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It also sounds like "kept them" if you're not primed for "killed them." I assume that's what happened.

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Yeah on MSNBC they keep dancing around the mental health issue. They keep talking about how things are getting crazier and crazier and that his behavior is more and more bizarre, but won't actually say that it's possible his mental health is declining. Guests sometimes say this but not the hosts. There might be a network policy not to discuss it in those terms.

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If Democrats actually believe that Trump is going through dementia, then they are being awfully cruel to respond the way they do in the face of his suffering.

Sometimes I’m unsure of whether you’re serious or trolling. Not this time.

Either way, it's the truth.

I'm not sure that he's as far gone as some here think, but I definitely think he undergoing a serious mental decline. He's a terrible person regardless so I have no sympathy for him.

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Except he wasn't. Not to this extent.

If this whole Presidency were a sitcom, what we have here would be what is called colloquially Flanderization.

 You haven't been paying attention. Read what Tony Schwartz the ghostwriter of The Art of The Deal that made Trump a household name says. Read what people who worked for him say going back decades. Watch any serious interview with him from years ago. Read about how he ran Casinos with the most inane management style ever. Read about how people who made The Apprentice struggled to put a coherent show together because Trump was so bad.

 People are really uniformed about Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAgJAxkALyc

This is from 1980, when he was 34.

The positions and diction are quite simplistic certainly, but it all is comparatively very well articulated nonetheless and more importantly stays on the given topic for some time.

And the point about what TV has done and whom will and won't run for President is also very on point, or at least still very clear.

Demeanor wise, he's very serious and calm.

All of this is quite the far-cry from the constantly angry, impatient, word-salad breather currently in The Oval Office.

This is such a big difference from what he is today.

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As others stand at attention for anthem, Trump fidgets, points, pretend-conducts the band

President Donald Trump has repeatedly said all Americans should “stand proudly” during the national anthem, and publicly chastises those who don’t as disrespectful of the troops.

But during the national anthem at his own Super Bowl watch party Sunday night, a brief video posted to Instagram shows Trump greeting guests, adjusting his chair, and straightening his suit jacket as other attendees — including first lady Melania Trump and their teenage son — stand with their hands over their hearts. As “The Star Spangled Banner” crescendoes, Trump raises both of his hands in the air, and twirls them around as if conducting the music.

That video is bizarre!

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If you compare his interviews from thirty years ago and how he talks now, you can see the difference. Back then he spoke in a pretty articulate way with full sentences. Now he frequently talks like a freaking child.

Oh boy. It's disturbing that so many took the OP's statement a fact. President Trump's doctors have decorated him healthy and have even done press conferences declaring such. In fact, the main doctor was surprised by just how healthy President Trump was.

About this fill sentences garbage, over the years President Trump has mastered the art of persuasion. Sometimes that means speaking in ways that are snore from conversation to add more imagery, take out unnecessary words, repeat oneself so the audience remembers, etc.

Have you watched older interviews with him? He used to be a lot more articulate.

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On one hand, you have the "evidence" that President Trump used to be more articulate. I have the evidence that President Trump's doctor declared Trump to be "in very good health". https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/08/us/politics/trump-health-physical.html

Which are you going to believe?

I believe both. His doctor said that he passed basic cognitive tests, not that he hasn't had a mental decline over the years. It's obvious.

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I noticed you changed the argument to "mental decline" (whatever that means, because it's not a mental illness) from "severe dementia". I'm glad you are backing off the mental illness argument.

I never said he had "severe dementia." You have me confused with someone else or you made that up. You attributed the rambling nature of his discourse to some sort of strategy he's perfected over time. I think it's an absurd conclusion when you compare what he's like now to how he was in older interviews. But you didn't tell me if you've watched those or not. :shrug:

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Ghosts asked that as a question to consider, 8 months ago, and it literally has not been brought up in the 13 pages of posts since. You know full well I did not change the argument. I was responding to your point about his past interviews, as you were likewise responding to someone else about the same.

Also, since you keep dodging my question, I assume you likely have not watched any of those past interviews.

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He says it was photoshopped. If a B&W filter counts maybe.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1226222654019035142

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😕

Like all he's got to do is go to Wikipedia lol.

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That clip, what even 🤣

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I don't see how these are evidence of mental deterioration.

I mean maybe it is. Or maybe it was windy and he's old.

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The ramp doesn't seem like it should be a big deal, but I honestly don't see it as a sign of mental deterioration that he took it slowly.

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There's been 18 pages of thread that was originally titled with a reference to Donald Trump's worsening dementia.  I noticed that Hindsight is 2020 hasn't yet taken his opportunity to express his outrage on using this issue for political purposes, so I'm bumping this thread to make it easy.

What?