Is there any former POTUS, living or dead, who wouldn't be appalled by Trump? (user search)
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emailking
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« on: July 29, 2017, 11:51:12 PM »

Maybe because he was so at odds with his own party.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2017, 07:50:37 AM »

One of the things this discussion has shown, is that you would likely have to give a lot of these people a long explanation, or crash course, on modern society, including modern technology, modern forms of communication, cultural issues, global issues, history of wars we've been in, etc. And then, once they've gotten over the shock of all this knowledge, whether or not they like Trump may be the last thing they want to think about. If they were say, forced to study modern society or to live in modern society for an extended period of time, so that all these notions became normal to them, then who knows if they would even have the same views they once did.
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2017, 07:27:02 AM »

I sometimes hate these poles because they inevitably apply the 18th or 19th century values of the presidents at the time. In which case of course they're going to be appalled by the fact that blacks and women are property, that gays aren't literally subject to the death penalty, and that the propertied classes actually don't monopolize the vote. They probably be all freaked out buy television radio and airplanes as well. What's your point?

I say ask the question under the presumption that whomever is raised from the dead to make these observations and judgements is given a couple months of observation historical literature to acclimate themselves to the societal technological changes that have occurred since they were president so at least they can wrap their head around the concepts even if they don't agree with them from their nineteenth-century viewpoint. Then ask the relevant questions

That was totally pedantic on my part, but something that's always gnawed at me. Thank you for listening.

You're just pointing out that the question as posed is a null question. It needs significant elaboration before it can become meaningful. People are doing that elbaoration on their own instinctively, but doing it differently, which is part of where the disagreement is coming from.
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