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buritobr
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« on: April 26, 2024, 05:44:13 PM »

team Putin

Orbán
Modi
Marine Le Pen
AfD


team Zelenski

Giorgia Meloni
Morawiecki
Boris Johnson*
Chega
Javier Milei
part of Bolsonaro's supporting base (not himself, who is neutral in this war and visited Putin in Moscow few days before the invasion)

Do you agree with these lists?

I don't think it is easy to include Donald Trump in the team Putin. I believe he is only anti-hawk in this war. Benjamin Netaniahu doesn't have a clear side to. He used to have not bad relations with Putin.

*I don't know if Boris Johnson can be considered "far-right", but he belongs to the right-wing of the Tories and some newspapers had already considered him the "British Trump"


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buritobr
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2024, 08:23:19 AM »

You can add the whole MAGA wing of the GOP on the pro-Putin side and Mike Johnson on the pro-Zelenskyy side.

Is Donald Trump really "pro-Putin" or he is only "pro-Putin" in the same magnitude Richard Nixon is "pro-Mao Tse-Tung"?
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buritobr
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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2024, 08:25:29 PM »

Bolsonaro and Bolsonarists belong in neutral/inconsistent. But really, I think it’s something they don’t really care much to have a defined or consistent position.

A good chunk only started being more pro-Zelenskyy after noticing Lula wasn’t aligning that much with Zelenskyy, so they adapt the discourse accordingly in order to antagonize Lula. But when Bolsonaro was president they loved to copy MAGA on the matter and mock the hell out of Zelenskyy, at least the socially conservative hardline base.

Bolsonaro himself started by offending Zelenskyy while in power, only to later once use “freedom to Ukraine” while in foreign soil in order to campaign for external goodwill on the West or something.

It's important to observe the difference between Bolsonaro itself and the right which endorses Bolsonaro.
The right which doesn't endorse Bolsonaro is the most pro-Ukraine group in Brazil, but the right which endorses Bolsonaro is also pro-Ukraine. One example is the PL-SP representative Paulo Bilynskyj, who is proud to have a grandpa who "fought against the USSR in the WW2". His grandpa was member of the Ukrainian nationalist groups who fought with the Waffen-SS. Other example was the former right-wing extremist Sara Winter, who used the quote "vamos ucranizar o Brasil". Even before the Russian invasion, her group considered the anti-communist Ukranian policies since 2014 an example to follow. It's easy for the right to be pro-Ukraine, since there are some pro-Putin leftists (more important in the X than in the real life).
On the other hand, Bolsonaro and his family don't care about this war. Maybe because it's a too complex topic for their minds. And maybe because they want to be connected to both pro-Putin and pro-Zelensky international far-right.
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