Democratic National Convention **live commentary thread**

[J. J.]

Michelle's going a little overboard with the poverty and devastation.

The problem is the disconnect between the rhetoric and the reality.  I think it will all come down to Friday.

I hate to say it, but the compelling personal stories just are not there.

[J. J.]

Does anyone think either Michelle or Obama grew up in remotely deprived circumstances?

Considering they were born as black Americans in the 1960s, yes obviously.

With a father with a nice government job in Chicago. 

[J. J.]

Does anyone think either Michelle or Obama grew up in remotely deprived circumstances?

Considering they were born as black Americans in the 1960s, yes obviously.

With a father with a nice government job in Chicago. 

A pump worker is a nice government job?

Yes.  I think it was actually a patronage position.  He was a local precinct captain:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Obama

Good delivery.  

[J. J.]

For Winfield:

David Gergen: "If they have another two nights like this, they might just break this race open!"

He also singled out Deval Patrick as the best speaker of the night.

I missed it, but he should probably should have been featured.  

[J. J.]

Michelle's going a little overboard with the poverty and devastation.

The problem is the disconnect between the rhetoric and the reality.  I think it will all come down to Friday.

What happens on Friday?

A job report that will fundamentally and permanently alter the state of the race, despite none of the previous job reports really affecting it at all.

It's the timing of this one (which might be good for Obama, BTW).

[J. J.]

Michelle's going a little overboard with the poverty and devastation.

The problem is the disconnect between the rhetoric and the reality.  I think it will all come down to Friday.

What happens on Friday?

A job report that will fundamentally and permanently alter the state of the race, despite none of the previous job reports really affecting it at all.

GOP have to keep hope.........

No, the Democrats have to hope it is good, or the change for the worse.

[J. J.]

Michelle's going a little overboard with the poverty and devastation.

The problem is the disconnect between the rhetoric and the reality.  I think it will all come down to Friday.

What happens on Friday?

A job report that will fundamentally and permanently alter the state of the race, despite none of the previous job reports really affecting it at all.

GOP have to keep hope.........

No, the Democrats have to hope it is good, or the change for the worse.

If it is good, we'll never here you mention it again.

Not hardly.  A good report, at this point, would give Obama a huge boost.  I've been saying that, with a good jobs report and a good speech, Obama could be up 5-6 points.

[J. J.]

How much cognitive dissonance, or doublethink, or whatever you want to call it, does this election require on your part? I mean, I don't doubt you want the American economy to improve, but at the same time you actively support Romney over Obama; these two desires certainly conflict with each other, as an unexpectedly astounding drop in the unemployment rate would be great news for the country, but it would also decimate the Republican party's biggest argument to support Romney over Obama in this election.

Actually I've said that either way I'll be happy with it.  If Obamanomics shows any sign of working, that's great.  If Obananomics isn't working, he's likely to be replaced with someone with an economics plan that will work.

I'm one of the few people here that will at least consider the possibility that unemployment will be lower.

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Good lord, I've been talking about a 5-6 point boost if they are good.

[J. J.]

They have canceled the stadium, for weather purposes. 

[J. J.]

Here's the video of the platform change fiasco:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncbOEoQbOg

Hilarious.

He should have called for a standing vote.  Also, someone could have called for a standing vote.  

[J. J.]

The bay-area democRat leader speaking now. Thanks God she's being booed [/krazen].

Like I said, the framing sucks. 

[J. J.]

I thought tonight was supposed to focus on economic issues. What happened?

The economy? 

[J. J.]

I thought tonight was supposed to focus on economic issues. What happened?

The economy? 

As if the Republicans have such a great record on the economy?

They are not in office.

[J. J.]

There's little to nothing in common between our debt situation and Greece's. Our economy is not going to collapse because of our debt. Obama has repeatedly outlined plans to dramatically cut the deficit by trillions of dollars in the future, once we have returned to full employment and it makes sense to do so.

You do realize that the economy will effect a lot more people than any of the issues you have mentioned.

[J. J.]

So far, because of booing the 'Jerusalem is the capital of Israel' plank

Nobody cares about that incident, OK?

It was the second story on NBC Nightly News.  

It is minor, but it is terrible PR.

[J. J.]

Wow...first cutter accused Romney of killing people. Now fluke accuses Ryan of killing people.

Hope and change baby. Hope and change.

This sort of thing will bite them big time in November.

Sure........

What's evasive about an ultrasound?  

[J. J.]

What a butthurt young woman.

It still strikes me that women think they should get free birth control from the government when the CANADIAN system doesn't even do that.

Um, they don't? That's not what Obamacare does at all?

That is what Fluke is advocating.

[J. J.]

"After all, Mitt Romney's the guy who said 'corporations are people.' No, Governor Romney, corporations are not people. People have hearts, they have kids, they get jobs, they get sick, they cry, they dance, they live, they love, and they die. And that matters."

Brilliant.

Until you realize that their money is in corporate bonds.  That's why Romney has closed in MI.

[J. J.]

Right now, he's being too retrospective.  

He's talking about the Democratic Party from the year prior to my birth.  He's not talking about Obama.

[J. J.]

He also mentioned Eisenhower's accomplishments too.  )

[J. J.]

Willie's delivering it well, but he's now more boosting Hillary!  

[J. J.]

Clinton is a snappy speaker, isn't he?

Substance is hugely weak.  His, "It's better," doesn't match up with the facts. 

[J. J.]

This is actually......amazing. I can say with confidence that this is the best convention I've ever seen.

Not even close.  His 1992 convention was much better with the other speakers.

The people in room love Obamacare; the majority of the county does not.

[J. J.]

This is actually......amazing. I can say with confidence that this is the best convention I've ever seen.

Not even close.  His 1992 convention was much better with the other speakers.

The people in room love Obamacare; the majority of the county does not.

Facts are never welcome in the JJ Universe

Ah, 46% is not a majority.  If it were, Obama would be in better shape.  

[J. J.]

The first part was too retrospective and he glossed over the economy, which is the key issue.

The problem for Obama is that economy got worse and has not approved.

It was also too long.