Romney 2012: The Last Great White Campaign

[J. J.]

You two can drop the act now. Even the Romney campaign is admitting that they're embracing a racist strategy focused on driving up white turnout.

You mean like sending Jesse Jackson into my neighborhood to turn out the black vote (2000)?

[J. J.]

This might be the first election which doesn't have a racist element.  If Obama loses, it won't be because he's black.  If Romney wins, it won't be because he's white.

[J. J.]

This might be the first election which doesn't have a racist element.  If Obama loses, it won't be because he's black.  If Romney wins, it won't be because he's white.

So just because he loses for other reasons means there is no way there is any racial element?  Says who?  What is with the unsubstantiated pronouncements?

The country suddenly became racist in four years?  The same group that selected him, rejected him, if he is rejected.  Obama wins or loses re-election based on his job performance.

This might be the first election which doesn't have a racist element.

Did you see this...

The plant, oh sure.

Gee, I wonder if anyone suggested she was in the wild by reptiles. 

[J. J.]

The country suddenly became racist in four years?  The same group that selected him, rejected him, if he is rejected.  Obama wins or loses re-election based on his job performance.

No, the country was just as racist in 2008, they were just desperate.  It was an unusual moment.  Now they're bitter and want scapegoats.

The problem, job performance is not that good (understatement), and expectations were high.   People might have been desperate in 2008, but they are a lot more desperate in 2012.

[J. J.]

The country suddenly became racist in four years?  The same group that selected him, rejected him, if he is rejected.  Obama wins or loses re-election based on his job performance.

No, the country was just as racist in 2008, they were just desperate.  It was an unusual moment.  Now they're bitter and want scapegoats.

Yeah, the racism in 2008 was of a more subtle form. Now it's the Stormfront form - blatant.

No, Stormfront was there in 2008.  Now, there is a record.  It might be racist to ignore that record.

[J. J.]

The country suddenly became racist in four years?  The same group that selected him, rejected him, if he is rejected.  Obama wins or loses re-election based on his job performance.

No, the country was just as racist in 2008, they were just desperate.  It was an unusual moment.  Now they're bitter and want scapegoats.

Yeah, the racism in 2008 was of a more subtle form. Now it's the Stormfront form - blatant.

Stormfront has been around since the 1990's.  There is a record of Obama's presidency.  It might be racist to ignore that record.

[J. J.]

The problem, job performance is not that good (understatement), and expectations were high.   People might have been desperate in 2008, but they are a lot more desperate in 2012.

It is absurd to expect a president to change one's class condition.  Global capitalism clearly requires that nearly all American voters be impoverished, and neither candidate is opposing capitalism.

I agree with the first line.  Obama shouldn't have promised it, just because he had achieved elite status on a personal level.

[J. J.]

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The country suddenly became racist in four years?[/b]  The same group that selected him, rejected him, if he is rejected.  Obama wins or loses re-election based on his job performance.

Your non sequiturs are getting old.  That's why no one takes you seriously.

Oh, Link, you are rambling again.  You apparently don't understand that race isn't the factor; performance is.  People would suddenly fire someone that is doing a job because of his race. 

I love how you guys always have an excuse for this type of behavior and can follow it up with a wink.  Stay classy.

I don't excuse it, but I question if it:

A.  Was a delegate.

B.  Was racial, as opposed to being appalled by CNN.

The guy who did it was removed.

[J. J.]

It is absurd to expect a president to change one's class condition.  Global capitalism clearly requires that nearly all American voters be impoverished, and neither candidate is opposing capitalism.

I agree with the first line.  Obama shouldn't have promised it

They all promise it, J.J., but their real function is to impoverish the serfs.  We have no anti-capitalist party.

That is because most Americans like success and see the failures of other systems.

[J. J.]

It is absurd to expect a president to change one's class condition.  Global capitalism clearly requires that nearly all American voters be impoverished, and neither candidate is opposing capitalism.

I agree with the first line.  Obama shouldn't have promised it

They all promise it, J.J., but their real function is to impoverish the serfs.  We have no anti-capitalist party.

That is because most Americans like success and see the failures of other systems.

This. And the morbid truth is the only reason why people were openminded during the Depression was because captialism wasn't working. As long as it sorta works, people will maintain it as the worst system...except for all the others....as long as it is kept in check.

And even there, in four to six years, it was back.

[J. J.]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/17/1121432/-I-was-denied-free-voter-ID-today-Pennsylvania
 Voter ID law is about rigging elections for Republicans.

Gee, we aren't doing a good job of it.

Plaintiff in Voter ID Lawsuit Gets Temporary ID

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/Plaintiff-in-Voter-ID-Lawsuit-Gets-Temporary-ID-166526396.html

It is silly and yet another false and failed attempt to play the race card.

[J. J.]

That should not be the job of political parties.  The state has a responsibility here.  Even if Obama himself drove some of these people to get the ID and paid for it himself out of pocket there would still be problems.  This lady was driven by a Republican law maker to get her id...

Every political party has registration drives, Link.  That is part of their job.

Further, there are a number of nonpartisan groups, like the League of Women Voters, that helps people register.  They have been doing it since 1920.

As I mentioned previously, my church assists in help educate people about voter ID.

[J. J.]

I added back and bolded the part evidence you wanted to avoid when concocting your distorted answer.  The League of Women Voters does not test and fix government computers.

Also I realize you and Vosem want to mischaracterize the issues with voter id as merely the cost of the ID.  Obviously the cost of the actual id is just one area of concern and frankly the easiest to address.  Voter education, transportation, and cost of getting supporting documents to get the free voter id are things that you don't want to address at all or in any serious way.

I realize that the fact the defendant in the case was able to get an ID completely destroys your complaint.

You need proof of age to get a driver's license or state issued ID in PA, but also need proof of age to get welfare or Food Stamps, buy cigarettes, hard liquor, wine, some prescription drugs or some sinus medication, or apply for Social Security.  Those are just the everyday things you need it for.

A computer in a state bureaucracy makes a mistake, and a human has to fix it, big deal.  That's why the state hires people to work in their bureaucracies.  It happened once or twice a month in the office where I worked.

Also, everything can be done by mail.  I'm sure the respective parties will be willing to pay for a stamp, or even a birth certificate ($10.00).  They actually have people that will walk it through for you.

It is stunning that I can get records for my family for the last quarter millennium, that has lived in PA, for less than $100, and you are complaining about the time it takes .

[J. J.]

Getting back to the OP and how going all in on white votes will never work again (and may not this time) here are a couple of quotes from some GOP big shots said during the RNC

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Both of those deal with appeals to Hispanic votes. 

I don't think Hispanics, in general, oppose voter ID laws.