Which country is/was more free?

[Richard]

South Africa.  I'm not quite sure how South Africa wasn't a very free country.

[Richard]

South Africa.  I'm not quite sure how South Africa wasn't a very free country.

Racist

huh?

[Richard]

I believe BRTD is referring to the fact that the Africans were slaves of the whites.

Huh?  I was a slave to ... which white person?

[Richard]

Go compare FH scores. Germany is a 1,1. South Africa never had above a 4,5 until apartheid ended.

And FH is almighty and all knowing?

[Richard]

I believe BRTD is referring to the fact that the Africans were slaves of the whites.

Huh?  I was a slave to ... which white person?

You are not an African, you are a white imperialist.

He was born in Africa

What does that have to do with it?

Being born in Africa kind of makes you an African.... unless of course, you say that only blacks can be African.  In that case, you're a racist for looking at skin color, and you're telling me that Egyptians are not African.

[Richard]

I believe BRTD is referring to the fact that the Africans were slaves of the whites.

Huh?  I was a slave to ... which white person?

You are not an African, you are a white imperialist.

He was born in Africa

What does that have to do with it?

Being born in Africa kind of makes you an African.... unless of course, you say that only blacks can be African.  In that case, you're a racist for looking at skin color, and you're telling me that Egyptians are not African.

I think of Egyptians as Arabs. 

They're still African.  What about Ethiopians?  Or Sudanese?

[Richard]

Ah, well your murderous ancestors killed nearly all they encountered, making their 'possession' of this continent a bit more indisputable.  Richius's lazy ancestors merely parasited themselves upon slaves, so when those slaves threw them off, they were rejected by the continent they had briefly ruled over. 

Actually, the Afrikaners never had slaves.  They were a very private and segregated people.  They traded with the Zulus and Xhosas, and thats about it.  The English whites in South Africa were slave owners.  They also started killing off the blacks.

[Richard]

yes, the Afrikaners and the blacks got along fine until the British came around. The British caused all the problems.

I'm not sure I can buy into this.  The British may have accelerated the problems, but I think they would have developed anyway as the society matured.  It's a little (though not exactly) like saying that blacks and whites in Boston got along great before forced busing.  They got along better than they did afterward, mostly because there was no little to no contact.  But that doesn't mean that the two groups together comprised a functioning society.

He is right.  South Africa has gold, diamonds, platinum, and other minerals.  Lots of it.  The British wanted it.

The Transvaal, Natal, and the Orange Free State were purchased from the black people by the Afrikaners.  It belongs to them.  The British came, and things went to hell.