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« Reply #175 on: June 06, 2018, 11:23:41 PM »

Nate Silver was more right than Sean T on 11:8:16, even if both were “wrong”
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« Reply #176 on: June 07, 2018, 11:49:45 AM »

He’s such a ing hack



To be fair, “check back in a week” is not terrible advice prima facie - however, it still ignores that the “shift” came during an unusual lull in non-Internet tracker polls
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« Reply #177 on: June 07, 2018, 01:21:54 PM »

He’s such a ing hack



To be fair, “check back in a week” is not terrible advice prima facie - however, it still ignores that the “shift” came during an unusual lull in non-Internet tracker polls

The fact that their model will ensure that Trashy Rassy will always be included in the average due to their frequency, but high quality polls that occur at best only once a month will gradually be pushed out, is a big reason why RCP is the worst of the 3 aggregates.

I don’t disagree. There are some flaws with their model.
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« Reply #178 on: June 07, 2018, 04:54:18 PM »



Fancy that.
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« Reply #179 on: June 07, 2018, 05:24:17 PM »

Fox News Poll:

48% Democrats (+2)
39% Republicans (-2)

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« Reply #180 on: June 07, 2018, 05:37:43 PM »

What's interesting is in a lot of these polls is that both Trump AND Democrats are improving.
Not really; his approvals are still stuck in the mid-40’s. Marginally, they're better, but he’s still not in the positive range.

True, but the movement in several recent polls has been what he described.  It is interesting.

Movement that I’m sure is of cold comfort to the Hill GOP, as the GCB atrophies for them again.
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« Reply #181 on: June 08, 2018, 10:46:05 AM »

Next Monmouth house district poll will be the OH-12 special election:



I’ll presuke a narrow R lead in all but their Dem surge model
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« Reply #182 on: June 08, 2018, 04:27:12 PM »

IN-03: A Banks internal has him up 20 points, 55-34, over Courtney Tritch in a seat nobody views as particularly competitive. Good number, though under his expected baseline in such a Republican seat.

The bigger news is that Donnelly only trails here by 8, 50-42, in a district he lost by 12 against
Mourdock.

Bear in mind this is a House race internal.


https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/gop-poll-donnelly-in-position-to-win-in-indiana
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« Reply #183 on: June 10, 2018, 06:12:54 PM »

Prior Bill Clinton most Presidents were discreet enough to not bother the American people with his presence. They did not try to get on TV every day.   Clinton was the first to really work on having an everyday presence.  It enraged me and many folks like me.   I really believe that was part of the 1994 wave.

Now I realize that 24/7 news coverage started during the Carter years.  But Carter, Reagan, and 43 did not seek out an everyday presence on TV. 45 returned to normalcy.   And Obama was not bad either

But now Trump works for coverage everyday.  And he has his stupid tweets. He is attempting to dominate the social media everyday.  He is in the process of actually driving his opposition and the resistance to the polls.  I know he believes he is motivating his supporters.  He may be.  But he is driving an even greater number of his detractors to the polls.

In my opinion that is why there will be an Atlas red wave.  My GOP friends tell me I am overreacting.  But they will get the message on 11/6.

Trump also has no ability to deal with his opposition in a conciliatory manner.  He just enrages his opponents.

Now I will also say the 24/7 rage expressed by the resistance on MSNBC, CNN, and other social media could have a counter effect.

I also believe there is nothing to Russia collusion claims, especially in light of all Trump’s anti Russian actions.  The resistance needs to be carefull not to cause a boomerang.

For the midterms: advantage resistance. For 2020 we will have to wait to see the reaction.




I agree with the first half of this post. Trump’s narcissism is his own Achilles heel. A President who would just shut up and not be a d!ck every five seconds would be at 60% approvals in this economic environment, IMO.
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« Reply #184 on: June 10, 2018, 06:34:54 PM »

Prior Bill Clinton most Presidents were discreet enough to not bother the American people with his presence. They did not try to get on TV every day.   Clinton was the first to really work on having an everyday presence.  It enraged me and many folks like me.   I really believe that was part of the 1994 wave.

Now I realize that 24/7 news coverage started during the Carter years.  But Carter, Reagan, and 43 did not seek out an everyday presence on TV. 45 returned to normalcy.   And Obama was not bad either

But now Trump works for coverage everyday.  And he has his stupid tweets. He is attempting to dominate the social media everyday.  He is in the process of actually driving his opposition and the resistance to the polls.  I know he believes he is motivating his supporters.  He may be.  But he is driving an even greater number of his detractors to the polls.

In my opinion that is why there will be an Atlas red wave.  My GOP friends tell me I am overreacting.  But they will get the message on 11/6.

Trump also has no ability to deal with his opposition in a conciliatory manner.  He just enrages his opponents.

Now I will also say the 24/7 rage expressed by the resistance on MSNBC, CNN, and other social media could have a counter effect.

I also believe there is nothing to Russia collusion claims, especially in light of all Trump’s anti Russian actions.  The resistance needs to be carefull not to cause a boomerang.

For the midterms: advantage resistance. For 2020 we will have to wait to see the reaction.




I agree with the first half of this post. Trump’s narcissism is his own Achilles heel. A President who would just shut up and not be a d!ck every five seconds would be at 60% approvals in this economic environment, IMO.

True.  But if Trump weren't the way he is, he wouldn't have been elected.

That... yeah that’s depressingly true too.
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« Reply #185 on: June 12, 2018, 05:12:16 PM »


BREAKING!!! The crash begins!

Reuters poll shows impending Democratic collapse.

Democrats have lost their momentum in the fabulously accurate and reliable Reuters poll (June 7-11).

Dem 43.3% (-.3%)
Rep 34.3%(+0%)

#TheDeclineAndFallOfTheBlueWave #RedWaveIsComing cc: LimoLiberal, Sean Trende

What Reuters giveth, Reuters taketh away.



Will we poop our pants?

Why would you NOT poop your pants
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« Reply #186 on: June 13, 2018, 10:58:05 AM »

PPP (Last poll was in late March):

Democrats 46% (-4)
Republicans 40% (+1)

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Yeah, I think their last poll was a bit of an outlier. This is back to the average.

Agreed.
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« Reply #187 on: June 13, 2018, 12:13:24 PM »


He’s cosplaying as LimoLiberal
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« Reply #188 on: June 13, 2018, 12:41:38 PM »



I don't think he wins, but if this is what NJ-03 looks like, the rest of the state is going to be a bloodbath.


Agree both counts
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« Reply #189 on: June 13, 2018, 05:13:43 PM »



Katko will beat either
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« Reply #190 on: June 18, 2018, 11:27:43 AM »

That’s quite a gender gap.
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« Reply #191 on: June 18, 2018, 11:40:43 AM »

Let's see more crosstabs...

18-34 year olds going for the Democrats by 16 points, 55+ going for them by 9.

Republicans winning whites by 9 points, while the Democrats are winning non-whites by 40.

Yikes none of those are good stats for the GOP
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« Reply #192 on: June 18, 2018, 02:21:37 PM »



I have a strong feeling the Dems are going to far exceed expectations on election day, just like the GOP did in 2010, and that's what the polls are showing.

If they win OH 12, which is a bellweather, will tell if the Dems have exceeded the 273 blue wall, by winning in OH, a Lean GOP state. If they don't, then all bets are off again, and the House will be very close

So they would have exceeded the freiwal?
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« Reply #193 on: June 18, 2018, 02:32:41 PM »


How on earth is that even close to a Tossup?
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« Reply #194 on: June 19, 2018, 08:35:23 AM »

Hey maybe MT was right and there really aren’t that many Tester/WWE voters
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« Reply #195 on: June 20, 2018, 11:56:55 AM »

In 2010, Republicans started running away in the Generic Ballot in July. I wonder if we're seeing something similar happen now.

What does THE CHART say?
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« Reply #196 on: June 20, 2018, 04:33:33 PM »

CNN:

Democrats 50% (+3)
Republicans 42% (-2)

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Has anyone analyzed how enthusiasm gap effects eventual results? Like a margin bonus?
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« Reply #197 on: June 22, 2018, 03:19:57 PM »

How about taking the Russia discussion to another thread?

Such as the great megathread for such things Smiley
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« Reply #198 on: June 22, 2018, 03:36:41 PM »


I could see Grimm with the upset quite easily
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