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KingSweden
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« on: October 20, 2017, 08:32:17 PM »

I am beyond tired of both sides (Clinton and Sanders supporters alike) constantly demanding the other pack their bags and leave, and fantasizing over purges of the other.  We just went through the demise of the Blue Dogs throughout the Obama presidency -how did that turn out?  

Like it or not, we need each other.  Otherwise, our tent is going to be even smaller than it is already.  

Yes thank you! Plenty of space for both.
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KingSweden
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 11:18:47 PM »

I would like some of the more "progressive" posters on this forum to realize that criticizing Bernie Sanders does not make one a brainless Hillary bot.

Also labeling anyone who disagrees with you on giving away everything for free as a right-wing Wall Street shill is not going to win you a nationwide election.

This is one of the major complaints I had with a lot of the Bernie supporters I knew, and a little bit with Bernie himself. I agreed with some (but certainly not all) of parts of his platform, and thought seriously about voting for him on Super Tuesday, but I decided at the end of the day that he wouldn't be an effective force for enacting well thought-out policy. I have some progressive tendencies but I also really value pragmatism. The thing that bothered me about die-hard Bernie supporters was they equated people who valued pragmatism, the rigorous critique of policy and appreciation of nuance with being ideologically opposed to them. Combine this antagonism with the incredible sense of self-righteous moral superiority that a lot of liberals have and it makes them really unpleasant to talk with sometimes (yes, I recognize that there are a lot of Clinton supporters who are also self-righteous and combative so spare me your "both sides do it!"). I would have much more faith in a Liz Warren-type Democrat as President than Bernie, but because I criticized Bernie for being really unrealistic, I got labelled by a lot of Bernie supporters I knew (including good friends) as a DINO, enemy of the working class, neoliberal shill, etc. And by the tenth time I got one of those comments it really got to me I started to get combative.

Liz Warren would definitely be able to thread the needle better than Bernie, I agree.
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