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KingSweden
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« on: August 15, 2017, 10:53:31 AM »

Do they not realize that most slaveholders did not fight in the war? They stayed at home and watched young southern men die in droves. You may not believe this, I think I mentioned it once before, but my ancestors stemming from my dad's mom (who was an orphan from Atlanta) had ancestors who fought for the Confederacy. None of them owned a single slave. In fact, most of them struggled to get by. They were railroad workers, postmen, or store clerks.

Just something to think about.

True, which makes Lost Cause apologia even worse. Defending the homeland from a literal invasion is one thing, but it was those same slaveholders who led the "Redemption" and the rewriting of history around the war they instigated and then were too cowardly to fight in, letting the "crackers" die and bleed for them

(Cracker, like the term "white trash," originated with the Southern upper class)
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« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 05:56:05 PM »

The Confederacy's legacy must only be looked at in museums to teach Americans what not to do again. It is disgraceful to honor it
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« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 10:59:13 PM »

>Implying George S Patton's political opinion is relevant to any of us

He's just an example of the point I'm trying to make. 1940s American men, including the ones who served in WW2, were not a very left-wing bunch. Plenty of them would sympathize with Trump and/or the alt-right today, contrary to what today's leftists apparently think.

Actually the Greatest Generation were more often than not ardent New Dealers. While I doubt they would sympathize with intersectional theory like today's progressives it's not like we sent some arch-conservative Christian legion to liberate Europe and Asia
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2017, 04:18:57 PM »

Accuse me of moderate heroism all you want, but taking down statues of John Brown is perfectly reasonable in the context of venerating anti-state violence.

That does not mean we shouldn't also take down Confederate monuments, especially since so many of them were erected 60-100 years after the war and have nothing to do with "honoring the fallen"
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2017, 09:51:35 AM »

So, Penn Jillette was just on Bill Maher's show where he said that the George Washington statues should be taken down, and Maher's left-wing audience applauded at that.

Ah, yes, never doubt the ability of progressives to shoot off their own foot and blow an easy win. Ugh.
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