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« on: March 01, 2017, 11:43:15 PM »


-Again, creating ISIS (something Obama actually did) is treasonous. Failing to take a Hitleresque stance on Russia isn't. This ain't complicated.

I know you're not a Putinbot, but I'm legitimately curious how you go from an Obama supporter to being this willfully obtuse about Team Teump's RUS connections and borderline apologia for Putin
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2017, 08:37:02 AM »

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Holy sh**t, just listen to yourself. Putin is an elite, buddy.

-He is an Eisenhoweresque establishment figure. He turned against some of the elites (e.g., Berezovsky) in the early 00s. He is certainly not bought, like Romney was.

Yes, he dumped Yeltsin's band of oligarchs for his own. Roman Abramovitch (Chelsea's owner), Felix Sater, Mogilevich... by turning from what (legitimately) plagued Russia in the 1990s he's simply created a new host of problems and swapped one type of elite for another. Don't know that I'd call that being an Eisenhower figure, though I do sometimes suspect Putin is not an Orthodox fundamentalist and a lot of the religious stuff is for show
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2017, 08:40:14 AM »

Before anyone else gets too excited, it will be very difficult to PRoVE Sessions forgot or omitted testimony intentionally, which is why perjury is tough to convict on. That said, it doesn't look good
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2017, 09:05:22 AM »

lol.

The reps/msm attempt to create fake scandals from retinue, mundane things proves just how intellectually and morally bankrupt they are. For months the media has been pushing this lie, and for months they've been forced to admit, buried at the end of every 'story', that there isn't any evidence for these wild claims. Yet they put 'EMAILS, INVESTIGATION, CLINTON' in sensational headlines anyway. It's beyond absurd at this point. It's blatant propaganda.

Nice non-sequitur.

And Hillary certainly did set up a private server.
She certainly did bit bleach all of her emails the day after they were subpoenaed.

Both of these things were a violation of federal law. Guess what, she got away with it anyways because she's a Clinton. You support this.

"Whataboutism is a term describing a propaganda technique used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world during the Cold War. When criticisms were levelled at the Soviet Union, the response would be "What about..." followed by the naming of an event in the Western world.[1][2] It represents a case of tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy),[3] a logical fallacy which attempts to discredit the opponent's position by asserting the opponent's failure to act consistently in accordance with that position, without directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism



Incidentally, "whataboutism" is the national pastime of Northern Ireland

Before anyone else gets too excited, it will be very difficult to PRoVE Sessions forgot or omitted testimony intentionally, which is why perjury is tough to convict on. That said, it doesn't look good

If he cannot remember two one on one meeting with the Russian ambassador, then he is mentally deficient just like Pussygrabber. And like Pussygabber, he needs to be removed from office on grounds of gross incompetence.

What happens when the US Justice Dept attempts to bring perjury charges, and the defendants use this exact same defense?

People do use that defense, all the time. Usually unsuccessfully, but the burden of proof isn't on them in a common law system.

It's like Bob Ritter tells Jack Ryan in "Clear and Present Danger:" "Memorize this phrase: 'I do not recall, Senator.'"
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2017, 11:30:36 AM »

If I'm being honest, I'm pretty sure the Trump campaign was getting info on Clinton from Russia and was coordinating with a foreign power to ensure they'd win. Now, they're getting caught.

I would not go that far.  I haven't seen anything to suggest that Trump was secretly getting info directly from the Russians.  But that's not really necessary for it to be a big scandal.  If the info was flowing the other way--that is, Trump people were giving private signals to the Russians about what Trump's foreign policy would look like--that's also a huge scandal IMHO.  The Russians were reported to be behind the DNC hack, and the Trump people knew this.  Giving them hints that Trump would have a foreign policy favorable to them is effectively encouraging them to continue to interfere in the election on Trump's behalf.


This is the bare minimum. There are suggestions it's worse, but the bare minimum is bad enough
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2017, 12:30:46 PM »

and their allies in the fake news media

i too get all my news from "reagan battalion", fpart of the NWO.

Ah, The Reagan Battalion, that legendary bastion of progressive liberalism.

They are actually a pretty solid Twitter presence, in all seriousness
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 01:39:27 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/02/politics/democrats-sessions-russia-resignation-call/index.html?adkey=bn

The White House is hanging Sessions out to dry.  They say they only learned yesterday, through press reports, that Sessions had contact with the Russian envoy during the campaign.

Bahhahhaha

One thing I actually kind of admire about Trump's refusal to take responsibility/look bad is that it leads to him rapidly jettisoning terrible  people who embarrass his administration (see: Flynn, Michael)
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2017, 04:53:15 PM »

Taken from Twitter:

Sessions on the WH: "I feel like, they don't know the rules, the ethics rules, most people don't."

I don't have the context so take with a grain of salt.

Edit: Fuller context ...

Q: Pres. Trump, Spicer said you shouldn't #Recuse

AG Sessions: "...They don't know the rules, the ethics rules, most people don't."

I'm actually inclined to agree w/ Sessions here. I do think he has much better command of the ethics rules than anyone in the WH
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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2017, 10:40:44 PM »

spicer btw projected that sessions wouldn't recuse himself ... Wink

"There's nothing to recuse himself [from]. He was 100% straight with the committee." -@seanspicer to @HuntsmanAbby on AG Jeff Sessions
https://twitter.com/foxandfriends/status/837346970268151808

-Told ya, absolutely nothing Spicer says should be trusted.

Holy crap I agree with Eharding
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