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Sam Spade
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« on: August 07, 2005, 09:51:53 PM »

   d. If any endangered or threatened species said offender shall be fined 500,000 on the first offense, 1 million and 5 years in prison for the second offense and 2 million and 30 years in prison for the third offense. If the offender commits a fourth offense life in prison shall be enforced.

What does this mean?
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2005, 02:41:46 AM »

   d. If any endangered or threatened species said offender shall be fined 500,000 on the first offense, 1 million and 5 years in prison for the second offense and 2 million and 30 years in prison for the third offense. If the offender commits a fourth offense life in prison shall be enforced.

What does this mean?

And don't you think life in prison is a little much.  I mean, I'm all for protecting the environment, but sending people to prison forever is outrageous.

I was more concerned about what this phrase means...

"If any endangered or threatened species said offender"

...as it lacks a relevant verb in order to make sense.

But your point is valid as well.  Smiley
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2005, 02:46:09 AM »

   d. If any endangered or threatened species said offender shall be fined 500,000 on the first offense, 1 million and 5 years in prison for the second offense and 2 million and 30 years in prison for the third offense. If the offender commits a fourth offense life in prison shall be enforced.

What does this mean?

And don't you think life in prison is a little much.  I mean, I'm all for protecting the environment, but sending people to prison forever is outrageous.

I was more concerned about what this phrase means...

"If any endangered or threatened species said offender"

...as it lacks a relevant verb in order to make sense.

But your point is valid as well.  Smiley

I have a feeling that what was meant is this:

"If a person shall kill a member of any endangered or threatened species..."

That would make more sense.

And it's absolutely ridiculous, by the way.
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2005, 01:06:17 PM »

I changed the grammatical errors and then added "proved in a court of law" if you don't feel that deserves a vote just add it but if it does we'll vote.
Then, unless any Senator objects, I am treating this only as a grammatical change, without need for a vote.

No objection here.

I think the penalties (especially prison-wise) are ridiculous and second Colin's concerns as to the actual impact of the bill.
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2005, 11:45:13 PM »

Aye.
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2005, 11:11:07 PM »

Aye.
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2005, 01:38:17 PM »

Nay
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Sam Spade
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2005, 09:26:56 PM »


Not a problem with the Senate leader here.  Smiley
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