Pledge of Allegiance Bill of 2005 (WITHDRAWN)

[Sam Spade]

I would like to propose an amendment to the legislation:

Pledge of Allegiance Bill of 2005

The words "under God" shall cease to form a part of the pledge of allegiance of Atlasia and shall be replaced by the words "under Dave".  The new pledge of allegiance shall read as follows:

"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of Atlasia, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation under Dave, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all."

[Sam Spade]

I feel, Senator, that this proposed amendment merely trivializes the issue. The question is not at all related to fantasy or forum affairs. It is rather an attempt to delve into issues of real life; fantasy affairs should not be mixed, except where absolutely necessary.

This, I feel, ignores the fundamental question: shall "under God" be part of the pledge, or shall it not?

On those grounds, I respectfully oppose Senator Spade's amendment, and request its rejection.

Considering the term "Dave" is present in our oath of office as such...

I, (underlined signator) do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of (fill in) and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia, so help me Dave.

I do not find the use of it in the Pledge of Allegiance trivial, but find it very respectful to the man who created this forum and who created the place where Atlasia exists.

I urge the Senate to consider this amendment with its utmost confidence and judge this to be a necessary compromise that reflects our Atlasian history and values.

Thank you.

[Sam Spade]

Considering the term "Dave" is present in our oath of office as such...

I, (underlined signator) do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of (fill in) and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the Republic of Atlasia, so help me Dave.

I do not find the use of it in the Pledge of Allegiance trivial, but find it very respectful to the man who created this forum and who created the place where Atlasia exists.

Which argument, I feel, ignores the great object of this bill: to restore the separation of church and state (a question addressed by the platforms of various organizations) by introducing some new and non-germane point.

It is very much to the point, considering that this language, whenever used in jury trials, consists of "so help me God".

"Dave" is replacing "God" in this instance, as in my insertion within the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Sam Spade]

Let me ask you this Sam, if your amendment doesn't pass how would you vote on this bill?

[Sam Spade]

Let me ask you this Sam, if your amendment doesn't pass how would you vote on this bill?

What is your answer?

Meant to answer that. 

Honestly, I am against this legislation.  I proposed it as a compromise to those who want to get rid of God in government and those who don't.

To Joe:  Considering that Dave has power over whether this forum and Atlasia exists, I feel that we must at recognize that he is sort of a God-like figure over Atlasia.

[Sam Spade]

What do you say to your constituents in your home region or district, such as Jehovah's Witnesses, who, because of their religious beliefs, refuse to pledge allegiance to any government, country, or flag?

Jehovah's Witnesses are just lunatics.  Fortunately for all of us, they don't vote. 

[Sam Spade]

I sense another court case coming regardless of what happens with the legislation here.

[Sam Spade]

Aye.

[Sam Spade]

Nay.

[Sam Spade]

2-2-2...

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Results in the Senate look somewhat similar to the polls conducted on this issue.

[Sam Spade]

As an FYI, the vote can only stay open until tomorrow, August 14, at 8:47.12 PM, unless two Senators file an injunction to keep it open 48 more hours.