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[Sam Spade]

Folks here seem to be missing that Perry is allowing Mitt to appear to move to the right of him, especially on immigration.

After watching tonight, Perry is done, long-term, which leaves Mitt as the only announced candidate with a chance at the nomination.  Watch.

[Sam Spade]

Folks here seem to be missing that Perry is allowing Mitt to appear to move to the right of him, especially on immigration.

After watching tonight, Perry is done, long-term, which leaves Mitt as the only announced candidate with a chance at the nomination.  Watch.

Better late than never Sam.   But Perry is the best thing that ever happened to Mitt. He gets a chance to appear adult, and more knowledgable, and nuanced, again and again, while Perry and Bachmann and Santorum chew each other up. I'm sure Mitttens hopes they all stay in through Florida. After that, it's over.

No need to be a smart ass - when you finally wake up from your testosterone-induced slumber about Obama and Huntsman, we can talk on that front. 

As for Bachmann and Santorum, they're not relevant, except that Bachmann can get some votes in Iowa before she runs out of money, and continue to flame on the vaccine thing for a while longer, so I don't know what you're talking about there. 

The real question, again, is who will be the anti-Romney?  I guess that Perry can keep that stature, so long as no one else enters, as he has the money and very smart people behind his campaign, but even then it is possible that it could go to someone else presently in the field, odd as that seems.  None of these people can get to the nomination, though.  But the point is that the true anti-Romney will emerge at some point - we just need to wait.

[Sam Spade]

Sam, old chap, testosterone does not equal "slumber."  You really need to get out more. Did you really think Perry was remotely viable - ever?  How long has it been since you've been in Texas?  Just asking. The last bit was serious actually.  

I was in Texas about a month ago.  I get out enough already.  I do live in NYC, after all.

I think you know my feelings about Perry, both before and after he announced.  This is pretty well-documented on the forum.

Slumber was a poor word choice; stupor is far better.  As in "Being in a stupor from watching a dull Republican debate, Sam Spade improperly used his vocabulary to describe Torie's lack of judgment in determining which political candidates to support and his inability to admit mistakes in making said choices."

[Sam Spade]

OK, but Sam, I admitted that I have found Huntsman to be a disappointment, even though I think he would be a competent President, and I admitted that Obama has been a "huge disappointment."  One thing I think I do OK, in part because I'm old, and have a certain self confidence, is that when I think I made a mistake, I have no problem admitting it. I make a lot of mistakes in life - a lot. But somehow I still seemed to manage. I guess it's a batting average thing.

Well, I'll at least take you getting 75% of the way there, for now. 

Btw, I make more mistakes than even you, and am happy to admit them.  As I have done on this forum many times.

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It's hard to offend me, Torie.  Annoy me, not so hard... 

[Sam Spade]

Oh Sbane, I like Huntsman a lot, and his points of view most closely comport with mine. He's disappointing because he's insufficiently effective, and just frankly, does not have the depth of Mittens. I really sense that. The rest of the field of course in my opinion just isn't in their league. They are the serious adults. JMO opinion of course.

Anyway, Huntsman is no longer in the hunt. Mittens isn't going to stumble. He's dominating.

Huntsman is not an adult.  Rather, he is merely an annoying, petulant child, who is a bit of an asshole and even more disingenuous than Mitt (if such a thing were possible).

Mitt is an adult, we agree there.  And the rest of the present field isn't, we agree there too.  But in order for the GOP to not suffer utter and total catastrophe were it to win the Presidency in 2012, the GOP will have to have a real leader, the type very rare in American history.  Otherwise, it would be much better for the GOP for Obama to be in control.  Leaders are sometimes adults, sometimes not.  Mitt is the latter, not the former.  Choose your poison well.

[Sam Spade]

Who's the "white knight" who will save us all Sam?  And if you say, be patient, I will whip your ass!  

There probably isn't one.  But it is less a matter of what "white knight" will save us, rather who can weather the storm and keep things intact.