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« on: May 01, 2020, 05:35:13 PM »

This is what people meant when they said Biden was a #MeToo timebomb. Nobody expected that Biden could have done something like what Reade is accusing and as such it's still highly divisive; if Joe Biden was going to have a #MeToo problem, it was always much more likely to be death by a thousand -- even if unverifiable or sketchy -- cuts.
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2020, 08:08:15 PM »


good meme
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2020, 06:49:00 AM »
« Edited: May 02, 2020, 06:53:06 AM by Gramscian-Bidenist »

Anybody who thinks Ford and Reade are comparable has been filtered from future opinion consideration. Reade has every few years (nowadays, once or so per week) been frequently and loudly inconsistent about, like, basic facts around her own life both related to and independent of this accusation from 27 years ago. Ford had tons of material evidence to prove that her story had basically not changed over 35 years.

Dr. Ford was a credible person with a serious allegation that was never actually investigated, and Tara Reade is an uncredible person with a serious allegation that is being currently vetted in the wide open public view.

I've heard it suggested that Ramirez is a closer parallel here and I'm still going to disagree with that. Maybe the story about the fight on the boat is a good link.
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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2020, 06:06:37 AM »

She had 7 friends corroborate her story and it's a complete lie? That calls into question the value of "corroborating witnesses" for future claims of sexual harassment and assault in politics. She got 7 people to lie for her.

Reminder that Ford couldn't even get 7 lol

The people who asked the FBI to interview them and were ignored have entered the chat.
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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2020, 06:43:24 AM »

Or how about both of them are just flat out lying?

You're vested in this narrative, and you'll say this, regardless of the facts.

And you may be right.  Both of them may, indeed, be flat out lying.  The solution to that is for Democrats to walk back the ridiculous aspects of the #MeToo movement.  It IS possible to bring sexual offenders to justice without trashing the principles of the defendant being presumed innocent, the right of a defendant to confront witnesses and put forth defenses, and the requirement that guilt be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.  Because it's better that Christine Blasey Ford be doubted and Brett Kavanaugh not be prosecuted that Cathleen Crowell Webb making a false allegation and Gary Dotson spending years in prison in Illinois.

When was Kavanaugh's prosecution ever on the table? When, exactly, did Ford call for Kavanaugh to be thrown in prison?

The "ridiculous aspect" of #MeToo is generally reported to be the presumption that a woman is telling the truth as a general rule. The word "presumption" gets used a lot in this context. I would advise you to familiarize yourself with the nature of "presumptions" and how they can generally be confirmed or denied through examination of the evidence. Otherwise, it seems like you aren't actually upset about the degradation of due process and instead would just rather we make no analysis at all and instead shrug everything off until there's smoking-gun proof.

Not sure why you're bringing up Dotson's case from 1979 in your very specific attempt to critique the #MeToo movement, started in 2017, but go off, I guess.
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