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Illiniwek
Junior Chimp
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« on: March 29, 2016, 10:23:04 AM »

Catholics always pray the last line at Mass. It would be inappropriate not to say it during the liturgy. It's just not thought of as part of the Our Father because in between the Our Father and the doxology the priest prays:

"Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day. In your mercy keep us free from sin and protect us from all anxiety as we wait in joyful hope for the coming of our Savior, Jesus Christ."

This means that the doxology is always said in the Mass, but pretty much never outside of it.

Here here!

Oh my goodness, I can't even...
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Catholics vs. Convicts
Illiniwek
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2016, 12:59:35 AM »


While this is probably inappropriate for the Lord's Prayer, there's an extensive tradition in medieval theology and mysticism of using feminine as well as masculine terms and imagery for God. I think it's Margery Kempe who talks at one point about nursing at Jesus' breast. Gregory of Nazianzus specifically mocks the idea that the Father's fatherhood implies the same things about gender as human fatherhood (the Son's sonhood has generally of course been seen as much more gendered in human terms, on account of the Incarnation).

Yeah, I mean I don't want to say that God is definitely a man and doesn't have feminine qualities, or certainly that men are closer to God than women are. But cmon, just use the language our Lord gave us. Use the imagery he gave us. Don't try to achieve some unnecessary ultra-feminist goal at the expense of understanding what the Lord has given us. God is the Father. Jesus is the Son. Mary is the Mother of Christ. Jesus is the bridegroom, and we, the body of believers, are the bride. Women shouldn't feel any less close to God because of the language, but there is a reason that language was used.
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