Gubernatorial Amendment (Amendment at Vote)

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Amendment

That section 4 be amended with the inclusion of "two-thirds" such that it reads:
The Council of Governors shall consist of the heads of state of the regions. Each head of state shall have one vote. The votes of a two-thirds majority of the current membership shall be required to not approve of any legislation. 

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Amendment

That section 4 be amended with the inclusion of "two-thirds" such that it reads:
The Council of Governors shall consist of the heads of state of the regions. Each head of state shall have one vote. The votes of a two-thirds majority of the current membership shall be required to not approve of any legislation. 

I don't like it.

I'm fairly lukewarm towards the whole idea of the Council of Governors, but I can't support it if just 3 Governors can constitute a potential blocking majority on anything that moves.

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Amendment

That section 4 be amended with the inclusion of "two-thirds" such that it reads:
The Council of Governors shall consist of the heads of state of the regions. Each head of state shall have one vote. The votes of a two-thirds majority of the current membership shall be required to not approve of any legislation. 

I don't like it.

I'm fairly lukewarm towards the whole idea of the Council of Governors, but I can't support it if just 3 Governors can constitute a potential blocking majority on anything that moves.

But but but... Veto overrides are FUN!

Besides, I'm viewing the Governors as a stepping stone towards popular approval, really.

Well, given the relative infrequency of gubernatorial electoral contests, I'd suggest that both we Senators and the President are much closer to representing popular approval.

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Aye

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"For any Bill or Resolution to pass the Senate, it shall have gained a majority in a valid vote. Before the Bill or Resolution becomes Law, it shall be presented to the Council of Governors and then to the President of the Republic of Atlasia, unless it be concerning the rules for the proceedings of the Senate. If both approve, the President shall sign it, and it shall become Law. If the President does not approve, he shall return the Bill with his objections to the Senate, and it shall not become Law. If the Council of Governors does not approve, they shall return the Bill with their objections to the Senate, and it shall not become Law. Upon reconsidering the Bill, if the Senate shall approve the legislation by two-thirds of its number, it shall become Law. If a Bill is not returned to the Senate by the President within seven days after it shall have been presented to him, it shall become Law regardless. " [note: As the Council of Governors are not required to sign the bill if they approve, the fact that a week of inaction by them is the same thing as consent goes without saying. I hope. If people find this too unclear please say so.]

Yeah, I think the period for the Council to set out their objections should be made explicit.

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I move that the following amendment be added to the text:

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I see there's suddenly an amendment on the floor. Hold your horses everybody, debate had stopped for days and days but nobody had moved for the final vote yet - I'll take a quick look at the OSPR, but I think debate is open still (ie we'll vote on Jas' amendment. Which of course is really my old amendment). Are these to be Sections 5 - 8, Jas?

Indeed so.

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Aye

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     I strongly support DWTL's motion, if any such thing needed to be said.

So how many times do you suggest we vote on the same amendment?

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Nay

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Tisk, why not...I motion to vote on the amendment again.

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Tisk, why not...I motion to vote on the amendment again.

And now you see why I asked for a second vote

Because you knew Andrew would change his vote for some as yet unstated reason?

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The Council is make-work for Governors and a power-grab by regionalists.

At present the construction of the legislature is half directly elected by the people, half elected from the regions.

Adding the Council moves this line to ³/₄ from the regions.

The Lewis/Jas amendment maintains the balance and is a reasonable compromise which can pass.

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Aye

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I bring an injunction to keep this vote open

The vote time expired 4/5 days ago.
Your proposed injunction is out of time.

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Then I plan to bring a Supreme Court case that proper warning was never given of the vote closing. 

Well...okay.
Best of luck backing up your case!