July 4th makes me sick

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Then ignore the NC-17 thing and focus on the rest of my point.

What exactly was the rest of your point? Ireland has banned 1 videogame and is therefore evil? Certainly freedom of expression is important, but so are other things... access to education, access to healthcare, civic safety, quality of life issues, democracy, moral foreign policy, etc. etc. etc. 

There are many great things about America, the story of America is a fascinating and often a fantastic one. America has given a lot of positives to the world. It mightn't hurt though to acknowledge that America isn't perfect either in it's internal or external conduct. In case you haven't noticed the wear-it-on-your-sleave, jingoistic sense of national superiority which is so often associated with some Amercians is oft found to be less than endearing outside the States.

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Then ignore the NC-17 thing and focus on the rest of my point.

What exactly was the rest of your point? Ireland has banned 1 videogame and is therefore evil?

Yes basically. Even one is far too many, even if it's a sequal to a crappy game that's no doubt crappy itself.

http://www.imdb.com/List?certificates=Ireland:(Banned)&&heading=14;Ireland:(Banned)

I see, so banning 1 video game makes us evil but yet you'll stand over the US as an unblemished record for free expression?

FTR, I disagree with banning the game (as I've explained before), but I respect that the decision was a considered one and made out of the best of intentions. To label the country 'evil' though is patently ridiculous.

In case you haven't noticed the wear-it-on-your-sleave, jingoistic sense of national superiority which is so often associated with some Amercians is oft found to be less than endearing outside the States.

WTF? Did you read the rest of my posts in this thread? Did you see that poster I posted on the first page?

It still applies, it just so happens that, in this particular instance, it applies through the rubric of 'censorship' rather than a more general consideration.

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FTR, I disagree with banning the game (as I've explained before), but I respect that the decision was a considered one and made out of the best of intentions. To label the country 'evil' though is patently ridiculous.

What that's f**king ridiculous. You might as well say the same thing about Iran banning material!

Banning media is NEVER acceptable. Period, end of story, and thus it should never be respected or accepted. It is always evil and a wrong thing to do.

Were the imprisonments of people like Josh Wolf, Judith Miller and Sami Al-Haj unrelated to media freedom?

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The point is they're to different things and that's not what I was talking about in "media" freedom. I was talking only about banning media, period, nothing more. And just saying that I don't give a sh!t what happens to Judith Miller who is a worthless whore. I actually laughed when she got locked up.

Banning media is NEVER acceptable. Period, end of story, and thus it should never be respected or accepted. It is always evil and a wrong thing to do.