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publicunofficial
angryGreatness
Junior Chimp
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« on: January 25, 2017, 01:50:48 PM »

There are many young adults whose first experience as to what Republicans were like was the Bush administration, sandwiched between two decent-to-good Democratic presidents, that left a bad taste in their mouth that will be with them forever.

I can only imagine how many children's first experience of conservatism was seeing Trump on TV making fun of the retarded and talking about grabbing pussies.
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angryGreatness
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2017, 04:55:33 PM »

No, I actually don't think so. Both parties in the US shift so there is an equilibrium between them and they both always represent ~50% of the electorate. It's obvious that Trumpism even in 2016 is already incapable of winning an election without both the Electoral College and a strong leftist third party to bolster them, and that its reliance on older voters (both in the general election and in the Republican primary, incidentally) means that it can't hope to survive for long. When it is decisively defeated (and this is a matter of when, not if, unless the people turning 18 now become very staunch advocates, which seems unlikely demographically), the Republicans will go through a period of figuring things out, but they'll be back.

Trump is helping the Republicans' long-time prospect enormously by taking actions to reduce Democrat immigration. Immigration is the single largest long-term threat to the GOP.

It's a little late on this front, don't you think? Decades late, in fact.

-I don't think there's any necessary equilibrium between the parties. Party dominance is effectively random, and there's no necessity for them to represent nearly 50% of the electorate. Remember the fourth party system, when, by random chance, except in the 1910s, the GOP was dominant on every level all the time.

Gary Johnson is a "strong leftist"Huh

Why can't the GOP become the Party of the Elderly, like the Democrats are the Black Party?

Trump was benefited by older voters in the GOP primary, but was not dependent on them, in any case. Look at the New Hampshire exit polls.

I think you're missing a potentially fatal flaw here.

-There is no flaw. If anything, due to population aging and longer life expectancy, this is a foolproof strategy.

You know people don't automatically become conservatives when they turn 55 right?
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publicunofficial
angryGreatness
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2017, 07:41:37 PM »

"Kids are apolitical and don't pay attention to the news. Also they HATE SJW SCUM and know what "millennial" and "latte liberal" mean"
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publicunofficial
angryGreatness
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2017, 08:16:32 PM »

Well obviously both parties will continue to exist as the major parties, but I think Trump is indeed causing problems for future Republicans.

-I think he's solving big league ones caused by Reagan/Bush.

By proving Democrats long-standing accusations of racism and bigotry, he is certainly not. He might appeal to alt-right young whites, many of whom I've noticed are actually pretty prominent in that age group, but their views are toxic to their peers. My old hogh school in blood-red St. Charles County voted for Hillary in their mock election despite being 85% white and having went for Romney on 2012. I don't think that's an accident.

My theory on that: Young people, due to growing up in the current political climate that can trace it's roots back to the Gingrich Revolution, are extremely polarized politically. While a large majority of millennial voters are left wing (especially when not just counting the white vote), the millennials that ARE conservative tend to be very, very conservative.
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