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CountryClassSF
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« on: May 21, 2015, 10:32:22 AM »

Great news! Since only 25% of the electorate, likely all Democrats, say they won't vote for a candidate who opposes ssm, the GOP can safely continue with the marriage plank in their national platform.
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« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2015, 10:50:57 AM »

Why is it so important though? So long as they are not advocating reversing a court ruling, what harm does personal opposition do to proponents?

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2015, 05:44:42 PM »

I believe conservatives are no longer answering pollsters, out of fear of retribution for supporting marriage
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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2015, 05:50:14 PM »

Why is it so important though? So long as they are not advocating reversing a court ruling, what harm does personal opposition do to proponents?

Well, for people like myself who are immigrating to the US and in the process of getting a green card through marriage, having a friendly administration throughout the immigration process is welcome. A Republican administration can't reverse a Supreme Court ruling, but can make life more than difficult for married same-sex couples.

The RINOs running never met an immigrant they don't want to move here. Just being honest. None of them are going to deny someone entry into the country because they are in a SSM
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2015, 06:04:49 PM »

The majority of people can be wrong.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2015, 06:39:50 PM »

Great news! Since only 25% of the electorate, likely all Democrats, say they won't vote for a candidate who opposes ssm, the GOP can safely continue with the marriage plank in their national platform.

You read that wrong. 25% said they won't vote for a candidate who doesn't share their view. And 2 to 1 of that answer was by people who oppose SSM.


That's what I read. Meaning Republicans have more to lose by not supporting trad'l marriage
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2015, 09:20:19 PM »

Just wait until SSM can be performed and recognized in all 50 states after June (I fully expect the Supreme Court to settle the issue). The graph of SSM support is going to look like an expedited version of interracial marriage. Conservatives will grumble about it for a time, probably gives LGBT relatives a hard time for a while, and the issue will just slowly go away.

But the G.G. will not let it go away. They want it in our faces 24/7 non stop. If I were told I'd never have to hear about this again, I'd be satisfied.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2015, 09:53:43 PM »

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I want to say that I really appreciate your words to me but why would I marry?
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2015, 09:55:23 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2015, 09:57:18 PM by CountryClassSF »

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That's what I mean by in your face. Their celebrations have to be public. What is the purpose other than to taunt people? I live in the belly of the beast, thankfully I'm travelling a lot in June. Divine intervention there
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2015, 10:23:30 PM »

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And a sports championship parade is comparable how? There are no anti-family statements, no trash talking of Republicans 24/7, no promiscuity.  Team pride is an entirely different scenario
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2015, 10:24:58 PM »

Just wait until SSM can be performed and recognized in all 50 states after June (I fully expect the Supreme Court to settle the issue). The graph of SSM support is going to look like an expedited version of interracial marriage. Conservatives will grumble about it for a time, probably gives LGBT relatives a hard time for a while, and the issue will just slowly go away.

But the G.G. will not let it go away. They want it in our faces 24/7 non stop. If I were told I'd never have to hear about this again, I'd be satisfied.

The Court rules next month. Why would the SSM advocates shut up before the ruling? After it passes, there'll be a few weeks of celebration here (you might want to take the month of June off Atlas) and then gays will just get married and everyone else will stop talking about it.

Since California began issuing SSM licenses, I don't see how anyone's lives have changed one bit here. All the news being reported on the issue is coming from out of state, when other states' bans are overturned, or references to the SCOTUS case.

I only see same-sex couples often because I frequent county recorder offices for my job. A normal citizen has to go that out of their way to find them (unless you live in West Hollywood or something). I just don't understand how this is so apocalyptic or worth burning this many brain cells over.

And the notion that heterosexual marriages are celebrated less, or in a lower profile way than same-sex marriages is absolutely absurd.

The thing is, the way it should be is you should not be made aware of complete stranger's sex lives. Why is there such a tremendous desire for people to flaunt it? When our votes were thrown out by the judicial tyrant who should have recused himself from the case, we didn't scream in the streets like the Prop 8 folks did the day after election day 2008. We stated our objection and that was it.  Now that SSM was imposed on California, why the need for endless flaunting/pride? I don't see the purpose other than to taunt.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2015, 10:45:32 PM »

Having a drink with friends can all be done without forcing complete strangers to know about one's bedroom habits. I don't think there's any purpose other than to taunt
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2015, 10:49:28 PM »

It's tiring to hear people talk about SSM being "imposed" on the nation. While it may have been at the time of the some of the rulings, and certainly probably will be such for quite a while in about half the country, the trend towards acceptance in polling is undeniable. Yes, CA voted to ban gay marriage in 2008, yes it was reversed due to "judicial activism", but does anyone seriously doubt that it would pass today?

I wish there could be a nationwide vote on this, to show people that just because a state voted to ban gay marriage in 2004 doesn't mean those numbers represent the views of the people there now.

But who's fault is that? The Republicans stopped fighting for it! The idea of fighting for what people believe in should just end when society takes a certain view? Did the gay movement decide to stop when people had other views 30 years ago?
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2015, 11:15:47 PM »

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Good, you do that. because the more you do, the more momentum we get for RFRA laws.
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