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CountryClassSF
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« Reply #25 on: May 27, 2015, 03:58:34 PM »

It would be a lot less of a big deal if we could stop hearing about it every day. Every time we pick up a magazine, SSM. Every time we walk down the street, SSM. Everywhere we go, SSM. It's put in our faces purposefully by some.

It would also be less of a big deal if 1st amendment rights were preserved of those of us who disagree - and we didn't have to live in fear of being ostracized, shamed, or losing our job (Ironic that its OK to the ENDA fans for someone to  lose their job because of a religious belief, BTW).

There are many libertarians on the Right who support SSM and religious liberty. Guy P. Benson, who recently came out, is one of them. If there was more of this on the pro-SSM side, there would be less controversy about civil marriage  if we didn't feel that our  fundamental rights were being threatened in the process.
 
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« Reply #26 on: May 27, 2015, 07:21:18 PM »

You're lying. You would still oppose SSM on the same grounds you say you do now. You don't say you oppose it because people aren't nice enough to you.

No because It would be dishonest for me if I suggested that my personal experiences did not shape my view on the gay issue.
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« Reply #27 on: May 27, 2015, 08:05:15 PM »

So you're saying that your position on this issue is materially shaped by your perception of how nice people are to you about it? That if you don't feel properly catered to, you're comfortable with fighting tooth and nail to keep an entire population from enjoying this right?

Super principled, dude.

Well, many people say their position in support of SSM was based on the increased visibility of gays.  My opposition was.
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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2015, 12:28:43 PM »

If two straight people kiss in Chelsea or the Castro, nobody is going to scream at them or attack them.  That could absolutely happen to two gay people in many, many places around America.

San Francisco bar owner in the Castro demanded straight people stop kissing. http://youtu.be/Cdt-KqccS2Y
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« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2015, 09:49:35 PM »

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Does that excuse what happened in the Castro?
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« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2015, 10:26:24 PM »
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If it's overt I absolutely do.  But it's far less common.

It's not necessarily "offensive" to me. It's more just uncomfortable with.
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« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2015, 10:36:20 PM »

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Because it is less overt. There are no straight pride parades. There is no in your face activity, whether you like it or not. If there were, I'd say the very same thing.
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« Reply #32 on: May 28, 2015, 10:57:43 PM »

Sure there is. One routinely has street parades and blocks traffic for it. One does not.
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« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2015, 11:57:52 PM »

Sure there is. One routinely has street parades and blocks traffic for it. One does not.

Probably because one group already has rights and doesn't need to fight for them using forms of public protest.

The dance club music and very, highly inappropriate costumes are a protest?
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