Kansas Gay-Straight Segregation Bill Passes

[CountryClassSF]

Is there something that describes this bill?

[CountryClassSF]

Is there something that describes this bill?

The Kansas City Star

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/02/12/4817862/kansas-house-approves-response.html#storylink=cpy

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Okay, the way I read it is, it's essentially protecting freedom of religion on the part of the business owner. I see nothing wrong with it. How exactly is it anything like segregation?

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Well, the article is wrong.

Senate Leader Wagle said earlier that most Senators disagree with the bill and it likely won't even reach a final vote. She flat-out called the bill discrimination.

Smash - deleted my last post because this completely skipped my mind when I originally posted. Had it gone through, I was fully prepared on registering Independent. As it stands, I'm going to work to make a difference from within, but I'm a bit frustrated, to say the least.

If I had a dollar for every time I've heard that from a reasonable conservative... it's a recipe for frustration and self-hatred.

I think the sentiment is really changing among younger Republicans. I haven't ran into a single problem telling other members of College Republicans that I'm gay, and this is Kansas.

As a gay conservative myself, I've gotten more flack from liberals in California than I ever have from religious conservatives.

Then again, I'm pretty socially conservative, so I understand I am not typical in that sense.

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This sounds like a Huffington Post-style argument, but I'm willing to explain it to you.

A person who supports the free market does not want government mandating that a business goes against their religious beliefs. Take Obamacare for instance.  How do you feel about religious folks being forced to pay for contraception?

We've seen so much H8 directed at religious businesses. Let the market sort it out.  There are a lot of businesses here in San Francisco that have pictures of Che Guevarra on their store. If I'm offended by the message they preach, I don't go there.

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No. But I don't see this as discriminating against gays. I see it as exercising religious freedom.

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Some businesses such as restaurants around here have a sign that says "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone" -- to me that's no different.

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Even if such a bill did pass, it would be impossible to enforce because it's impossible to know what your patrons sexuality is if they come in to your business.

Many gays choose to flaunt their sexuality (it annoys me when they do, but I understand it's a free country), but perhaps a bill like this would encourage more of a global Don't ask Don't tell policy for everybody.

From a purely constitutional point of view, I don't see how this bill would violate any provisions because there's no federal protection against sexual preference

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When do liberals not run to the courts immediately after a law passes that they don't agree with the principles of?

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Difference is they packed the courts, so basically 99% of laws that doesn't conform to a lib worldview gets tossed now.

The UN observers were shocked to learn the US doesn't have a voter ID law.

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Difference is they packed the courts, so basically 99% of laws that doesn't conform to a lib worldview gets tossed now.

The UN observers were shocked to learn the US doesn't have a voter ID law.

99% of laws that don't conform to liberal worldviews?  So 99% of voter ID laws have been tossed, partial birth abortion bans, etc. have been tossed?  No.

As for your Court packing claim, the Courts are fairly balanced.

You've drunk the lib kool aid

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Difference is they packed the courts, so basically 99% of laws that doesn't conform to a lib worldview gets tossed now.

The UN observers were shocked to learn the US doesn't have a voter ID law.

When do you imagine that liberals packed the court, and what decisions do you attribute to that packing?

The first state-level gay marriage ban to be overturned by a federal court (California) was struck down by a Reagan appointee.  The judge who just struck down Kentucky's ban on recognizing out-of-state gay marriages was appointed by Bush Sr. A majority of Justices on the Supreme Court are republican appointees, and a Reagan appointee was the swing vote in Windsor that toppled the first domino in the chain that's about to lead to nation-wide legalization of gay marriage.

Reagan also gave us Sandra Day "I heart Partial Birth Abortion" O'Connor.

Darn good president, but not the best appointer of judges.  W's judges  are probably the best in terms of real conservatism, minus Roberts as I said before.