Even if you feel like you might get raped, you may not, so no guns for you

[Obamanation]

I watched the video. How does this not make sense? Of course you don't want someone who merely feels uncomfortable to merely pull out a gun and stop shooting. That's why college campuses have blue lights, telephones and public safety.

Obviously misleading OP is misleading.

[Obamanation]

I watched the video. How does this not make sense? Of course you don't want someone who merely feels uncomfortable to merely pull out a gun and stop shooting. That's why college campuses have blue lights, telephones and public safety.

Obviously misleading OP is misleading.

Lawful CCW individuals aren't in the business of merely pulling out guns and shooting in such a manner. Indeed, they commit crime and violent crime at a rate far lower than regular folk.

Proof?

[Obamanation]

I watched the video. How does this not make sense? Of course you don't want someone who merely feels uncomfortable to merely pull out a gun and stop shooting. That's why college campuses have blue lights, telephones and public safety.

Obviously misleading OP is misleading.

Lawful CCW individuals aren't in the business of merely pulling out guns and shooting in such a manner. Indeed, they commit crime and violent crime at a rate far lower than regular folk.

I'm willing to concede that this may be the case, if you have sources to cite.

Very well. The great state of Texas keeps track of such things.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL/Reports/ConvictionRatesReport2011.pdf

Texas CHL individuals commit .189% of crimes, including 3 murders, 3 manslaughters, and 20 assaults of family violence.

Texas CHL individuals consist of roughly 1.8% of the overall above 21 population. There are roughly 520,000 such CHL individuals.

These are good law abiding folk that commit far less than their share of crimes.


Kansas came up with the same.

Of the 51,078 permits that have been issued by the state since the law took effect in 2007, 44 permit holders have been charged with a crime while using a firearm through late October, according to records provided by the Kansas Attorney General’s Office.

That works out to one charge for every 1,161 permit holders, or 0.09 percent.

You're not comparing apples to apples here, Krazen.  Because of the background checks that CCW holders are subjected to, they are already from a group that on average should be less likely to commit crime, since past criminal behavior is a predictor of the probability one will commit crime in the future.  A fair comparison to see whether being of the type that would apply for a CCW permit means you are less likely to commit crime in the future would compare the crime rates of those who have a CCW permit to those who could have one but choose not to get one.

This. I appreciate the effort made to provide stats, but the stats you provided are meaningless...