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« on: May 29, 2020, 02:42:31 PM »
« edited: May 29, 2020, 06:32:16 PM by Marxist-Cornpopist Thought »

The reason why Sununu and Scott are winning, they represent Barry Goldwater moderation and represent the Reagan, Bush and McCain wing of the R party that triangulated.

Every time I see this take, I die a little inside. Chris Sununu is not a moderate, he has never been a moderate, and he never will be a moderate.

In fact, even if he was, he couldn't govern like a moderate. Unlike Massachusetts or Vermont, the NHGOP has a strong conservative wing that needs to be appeased. There was such a drastic split between Gatsas, Forrester, and Sununu that Frank Edelblut (the candidate of the conservative wing) almost won in a massive upset. Since then, Sununu has extended an olive branch towards the Trump wing of the party, rather than work with the Democrats to find common ground.

The man's political appointees have largely been political cronies. He nominated Edelblut to be his Secretary of Education, despite him having zero professional qualifications whatsoever. In fact, the only thing that could be argued was that he helped homeschooled his kids, which leads me to believe he's backing a more conservative education policy focusing on alternative education. His Chief Justice nominee got rejected because he nominated his own Attorney General. The man, to put it plainly, is the swamp.

Aside from his flip-flops (including Planned Parenthood, which he only supported to get elected in the first place), he's been horrible on voting rights. It's honestly a ****ing joke that this man made my state ground zero for youth voter suppression and people call him a moderate. Had Brian Kemp not been so craven, Chris Sununu would be the voter suppressor-in-chief.
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2020, 06:35:23 PM »

He happens to be successful in New Hampshire because the state is more conservative than VT and MA. There's a market for a Reagan/Bush-era conservative here, although I'd use that term very loosely with Sununu. Unlike Ayotte, Sununu is utterly devoid of principles and believes in whatever is most politically convenient at any given time.

Even then, he's not offensive enough to trigger the #NeverTrumpers in the state or the wine moms.
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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2020, 07:42:53 PM »

He happens to be successful in New Hampshire because the state is more conservative than VT and MA. There's a market for a Reagan/Bush-era conservative here, although I'd use that term very loosely with Sununu. Unlike Ayotte, Sununu is utterly devoid of principles and believes in whatever is most politically convenient at any given time.

Even then, he's not offensive enough to trigger the #NeverTrumpers in the state or the wine moms.

Tell me more about Ayotte

Of course, I'm talking pre-2016. Back then, she was a proud Republican footsoldier and was seen as part of the next generation of neoconservative leadership. By and large, she didn't offend the wine moms, and was actually fairly popular up until Trump got elected. Even as she ran away from him, the stigma was too much for her to overcome.

That being said, if Ayotte won she'd, at best, take the current "#NeverTrump" position of being Very Concerned about Trump's political moves while rubber-stamping them anyway. After all, they like the idea of tax cuts, Trumpcare, Brett Kavanaugh on the Supreme Court, and Betsy DeVos as Secretary of Education. They just don't like Trump's violation of The Norms. At worst, she'd follow Lindsey Graham and abandon her mentor's memory to keep being a loyal footsoldier.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2021, 01:13:10 PM »

Great news. I feel like I'd rather vote for Phil than a statist like Newsom.
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