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« on: February 06, 2013, 10:28:37 PM »

It's incredible how fast the tide is changing on this. A few years ago you couldn't find a serious Democratic contender that wasn't a moderate on the issue, now every candidate in '16 will probably be in full defense of a gay couple's right to marry. On the Republican side, their front-runner is stepping down from complete disavowal and is resorting to states' rights rhetoric.

Obviously you're not going to see Rick Santorum saying the same thing, but the issue is rapidly shifting leftward.

^And wow, that was a great post, Clarence.
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« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2013, 11:14:20 PM »

These states rights' folks grind my gears...

Did Rubio's parents flee Cuba to come to this state or to this nation? Did I and every other veteran wear the uniform of our state or our nation?- excluding our friends in the National Guard...

If we let the states right's folks have their way- blacks would be second class citizens here in my neck of the woods and while that wasn't a radical idea then (like discriminating against gays isn't a radical idea now), we now know how much of hypocrites I and every other American at that time looked like... we preached the values of equality and liberty for all and I lived in a time when these values weren't acted upon

State's rights bothers me when dealing with fundamental issues and I consider freedom and equality to be a fundamental issue- but state's rights especially bugs me when it is used by conservatives like Rubio to hide from an issue they know history will judge them poorly for...

My party better wise up on things like this or it won't be my party (or much any one's) pretty soon...

Well said. Although I think this is really just them testing the waters and slowly backing off on a losing issue.

But then, I expect the issue to be all but over after the SC decision. It'll be legal across the nation and the only alternative will be an amendment that will have no chance to pass.

Gonna be interesting to read Kennedy's opinion on that issue when DOMA's overturned (I'm guessing he'll be given the duty).
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« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2013, 11:42:54 PM »

It appears Rubio is slowly being co-opted by the left.

Stop.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2013, 10:31:15 AM »

While normally a wildcard, Kennedy has alway been friendly to LGBT issues. It'll be 5-4 with the left promising the majority opinion to Kennedy, I just don't know how broad.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2013, 10:11:46 PM »

This one truly should just be left to the states. Can't the black community accept that some restaurants just will not allow them to eat there based on natural law and moral principals ever. It is a contract and the federal government needs to just step off and respect the states for once. Sorry Clarence you're on the wrong side of this issue.

Retro'd your post.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2013, 10:31:48 PM »

It seems that the only echo chamber more powerful than FOX/MSNBC is a church. You can't possibly believe that opposing gay marriage is a winning issue. Check your faith at the door when we're discussing reality.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2013, 11:31:41 PM »

It seems that the only echo chamber more powerful than FOX/MSNBC is a church. You can't possibly believe that opposing gay marriage is a winning issue. Check your faith at the door when we're discussing reality.

I'm speaking reality. My views on this issue were cemented before I embraced my faith. The Book of Revelation is my evidence.

This little back-and-forth is fun and all, but really, opposing gay marriage is a losing issue by just about every shred of concrete evidence. I'll take mounds of statistical data over a 2,000-year-old document written by 2,000-year-old men.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 06:51:11 PM »

Why does the government have anything to do with marriage again? I should be able to marry my dog if I want, so why can't it be a legal contract that people agree to, with no tax effects or anything?

Because gays getting married is an abomination to the sanctity and beauty of marriage. Even though Kim Kardashian put the final nail in that coffin.
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