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Question: Monday, October 12th
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Yes
 
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dudeabides
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« on: September 07, 2015, 09:59:12 PM »

Four years ago, Rick Perry led the pack during late summer, Herman Cain surged in the early fall, Newt Gingrich was surging by November/December, and then Mitt Romney took the lead and the momentum.

I expect Carson to surge, then maybe Fiorina, then Governor Bush once we get closer to the Iowa Caucus. Whoever wins Iowa will surge, then the New Hampshire winner, then whoever the front-runner will become will surge. Chances are, that's either Bush, Rubio, or Kasich. Scott Walker is running such a terrible campaign that he has ended any chance he had at this, he shouldn't have made stupid statements like the one about the Canadian border, he should have run as an authentic candidate who is unapologetic in his beliefs, he's a total flip-flop now. Huckabee conceded defeat when he announced he would visit Kim Davis in jail. Rand Paul could surprise us.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2015, 11:26:41 PM »

Four years ago, Rick Perry led the pack during late summer, Herman Cain surged in the early fall, Newt Gingrich was surging by November/December, and then Mitt Romney took the lead and the momentum.

I expect Carson to surge, then maybe Fiorina, then Governor Bush once we get closer to the Iowa Caucus. Whoever wins Iowa will surge, then the New Hampshire winner, then whoever the front-runner will become will surge. Chances are, that's either Bush, Rubio, or Kasich. Scott Walker is running such a terrible campaign that he has ended any chance he had at this, he shouldn't have made stupid statements like the one about the Canadian border, he should have run as an authentic candidate who is unapologetic in his beliefs, he's a total flip-flop now. Huckabee conceded defeat when he announced he would visit Kim Davis in jail. Rand Paul could surprise us.

I very much believe that the Trump surge is in no small measure fueled by the majority of Republicans being fed up with the Bushes and not wanting another Bush on the ticket to ruin the brand.  They've lived through two (2) separate Bush Presidencies, and in terms of politics, neither ended well. 

I also think that some of the GOP has the good sense to want to stick the Democrats with the "dynasty" issue.  All else aside, Americans, to some extent, look askance at "dynasties", and Hillary's campaign is an attempt at that.  The idea of Hillary vs. Jeb is doubly repulsive to a number of voters in BOTH parties.  I believe that Jeb Bush leaving the race would, in fact, be an event that would take some of the air out of Trump's balloon.

How about it, dudeabides?  Is your Jebby man enough to take one for the team and drop out in order to stop Trump?

People are not supporting Trump to oppose Bush, Rubio is basically Bush on the issues and in terms of who he can appeal to without the last name. People only support Trump because they are scared, angry, not well read, and tired of politicians.

The majority of Republicans are not with Trump, the party is divided. Trump has a plurality, but there are 17 candidates. It's Jeb Bush's job to convince voters he isn't his father or his brother, that process can take some time and we are seeing that in polling. In the end, much like voters saw Bush 43 was not Bush 41 in 2000, Jeb will be judged on his own record and vision, not that of his brother or fathers.

As for the dynasty issue, Americans elected two Bushes because they felt they were the best candidates for the job at the times they ran. It remains to be seen if Americans believe Jeb Bush is the best candidate. I knew going into this process Jeb's path to the GOP nomination would be difficult, I think he is made for a general election just like his father was in 1988.

Do I think Bush would drop out to deny Trump the GOP nomination? Absolutely. He doesn't want a socialist as President. But, I don't see him doing so because in the end, the GOP primary electorate wants to win, they want to with with a champion of free markets, fiscal discipline, and a strong national defense - Governor Bush fits the bill and even if his name were Jeb Smith, he would still.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2015, 05:57:15 PM »

Dudeabides, please stop calling Trump a socialist.  Do I really have to explain to you why that allegation is absurd?

Here is where I prove Trump is, in fact, a socialist

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http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

Trump's positions:

Property rights:

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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265171/donald-trump-and-eminent-domain-robert-verbruggen

Health Care:

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http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-supports-national-health-care-2011-4

Taxation:

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http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2015/sep/02/jeb-bush/did-donald-trump-propose-biggest-tax-hike-history-/

Trump's position on trade = the same as "Socialist Action", see for yourself:

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http://socialistaction.org/against-free-trade-and-against-protectionism/


I accept your apology.
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