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dudeabides
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« on: July 25, 2015, 10:15:29 AM »

Sad considering we've had two Presidents named Bush.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2015, 12:04:10 PM »

Sad considering we've had two Presidents named Bush.

Considering both presidencies ended in failure with widespread economic damage, I imagine most people have repressed their disastrous presidencies.

First of all, this was a question of name I.D.

Secondly:

George W. Bush's record
- Toppled a murderous regime in Iraq
- Taliban toppled in Afghanistan
- Enacted the Patriot Act to protect the homeland
- doubled border patrol agents, leading to a reduction in the flow of illegal immigration
- ended partial-birth abortion
- Re-enstated President Reagan's Mexico City Policy
- appointed strict constructionists
- reduced taxes for all taxpayers, increasing federal revenues by 44%
- Created the President's Emergency Plan for Aids Relief
- Increased the number of free trade agreements from 3 to 16


George Bush's record
- Drove Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait
- Signed NAFTA into law
- Signed the Americans with Disabilities Act into law
- Points of Light Foundation created
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dudeabides
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2015, 02:32:09 PM »

Sad considering we've had two Presidents named Bush.

Considering both presidencies ended in failure with widespread economic damage, I imagine most people have repressed their disastrous presidencies.

First of all, this was a question of name I.D.

Secondly:

George W. Bush's record
- Toppled a murderous regime in Iraq
- Taliban toppled in Afghanistan
- Enacted the Patriot Act to protect the homeland
- doubled border patrol agents, leading to a reduction in the flow of illegal immigration
- ended partial-birth abortion
- Re-enstated President Reagan's Mexico City Policy
- appointed strict constructionists
- reduced taxes for all taxpayers, increasing federal revenues by 44%
- Created the President's Emergency Plan for Aids Relief
- Increased the number of free trade agreements from 3 to 16


George Bush's record
- Drove Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait
- Signed NAFTA into law
- Signed the Americans with Disabilities Act into law
- Points of Light Foundation created


1.) Agreed, but he planned the aftermath awfully. Literally read what they thought Iraq would be like in 2006, and look how it turned out. Lesson number 1 of intervention is to have a plan for the aftermath-compare German 1945 with Iraq/Libya over the last 10 years.
2.) Toppled? Aren't we currently talking to them about a coalition deal? We drove them into the hills until 2005 when they came back and started hitting us pretty hard. As racist as it is the old joke that goat farmers were beating us is largely true. If you think the Taliban are gone you're as foolish as Bush.
3.)Please? I thought conservatives cared about the Constitution? 
4.) Okay
5.) More Rick Santorum, but again okay.
6.) A policy that ended up bannning condoms? The Mexico City rule is pretty awful
7.) No he didn't. A strict constructionist wouldn't scrap civil rights law passed with super majorities in both houses, and re-approved in 2006. .
8.) Great, hence why the US had such a massive deficit in the Bush years, plus Bush's job's numbers were actually way below Clinton's
9.) Whilst also supporting an entire aids' program that failed to actually fix anything in the US. Under Bush people weren't getting their anti-viral drugs, there was no support for drugs like Truvada, vulnerable groups like MSM and African-Americans weren't helped, and you were taught that the only way not to get AID's was to avoid sex. Bush did great work in Africa for Aids, I'm not denying that. It's just his domestic AID's policy was still awful
10.) Great, because free trade always helps everyone.

I don't understand why a President who increased the size of the federal Government, massively increased spending, crashed the economy into a ditch and gave his friends positions in the FEMA is so respected by republicans. Like really, are we that Partisan that we think GWB is a good President? Imagine if he was a democrat, Christ he'd be worse than Carter for you guys 

First of all, I did not say he had a great record, he had an okay record. He did spend too much money, I don't agree with the federal government getting involved in education, his "ownership society" agenda was crap, and his monetary policies were awful.

Secondly, he has a far better record, overall, than Barack Obama by far. But, in the end, I'm not going to judge his brother for his record, and neither will the majority of voters.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2015, 03:32:30 PM »

Sad considering we've had two Presidents named Bush.

Considering both presidencies ended in failure with widespread economic damage, I imagine most people have repressed their disastrous presidencies.

First of all, this was a question of name I.D.

Secondly:

George W. Bush's record
- Toppled a murderous regime in Iraq
- Taliban toppled in Afghanistan
- Enacted the Patriot Act to protect the homeland
- doubled border patrol agents, leading to a reduction in the flow of illegal immigration
- ended partial-birth abortion
- Re-enstated President Reagan's Mexico City Policy
- appointed strict constructionists
- reduced taxes for all taxpayers, increasing federal revenues by 44%
- Created the President's Emergency Plan for Aids Relief
- Increased the number of free trade agreements from 3 to 16


George Bush's record
- Drove Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait
- Signed NAFTA into law
- Signed the Americans with Disabilities Act into law
- Points of Light Foundation created


1.) Agreed, but he planned the aftermath awfully. Literally read what they thought Iraq would be like in 2006, and look how it turned out. Lesson number 1 of intervention is to have a plan for the aftermath-compare German 1945 with Iraq/Libya over the last 10 years.
2.) Toppled? Aren't we currently talking to them about a coalition deal? We drove them into the hills until 2005 when they came back and started hitting us pretty hard. As racist as it is the old joke that goat farmers were beating us is largely true. If you think the Taliban are gone you're as foolish as Bush.
3.)Please? I thought conservatives cared about the Constitution? 
4.) Okay
5.) More Rick Santorum, but again okay.
6.) A policy that ended up bannning condoms? The Mexico City rule is pretty awful
7.) No he didn't. A strict constructionist wouldn't scrap civil rights law passed with super majorities in both houses, and re-approved in 2006. .
8.) Great, hence why the US had such a massive deficit in the Bush years, plus Bush's job's numbers were actually way below Clinton's
9.) Whilst also supporting an entire aids' program that failed to actually fix anything in the US. Under Bush people weren't getting their anti-viral drugs, there was no support for drugs like Truvada, vulnerable groups like MSM and African-Americans weren't helped, and you were taught that the only way not to get AID's was to avoid sex. Bush did great work in Africa for Aids, I'm not denying that. It's just his domestic AID's policy was still awful
10.) Great, because free trade always helps everyone.

I don't understand why a President who increased the size of the federal Government, massively increased spending, crashed the economy into a ditch and gave his friends positions in the FEMA is so respected by republicans. Like really, are we that Partisan that we think GWB is a good President? Imagine if he was a democrat, Christ he'd be worse than Carter for you guys 

First of all, I did not say he had a great record, he had an okay record. He did spend too much money, I don't agree with the federal government getting involved in education, his "ownership society" agenda was crap, and his monetary policies were awful.

Secondly, he has a far better record, overall, than Barack Obama by far. But, in the end, I'm not going to judge his brother for his record, and neither will the majority of voters.

GWB left office with an approval rating of 22%. Look, like Blair there's two things people think about when they think of Bush-Iraq and 2008 crash. He really doesn't have a better record-most republicans will admit that

The economy in Obama's first term was worse off than it was when Bush left office, and it's not that much better now.
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dudeabides
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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2015, 07:18:21 PM »

- Toppled a murderous regime in Iraq
Led to ISIS
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Had to wait until Obama to get Bin Laden
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The FBI doing their damn job before 9/11 would have prevented 9/11
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It dropped the most under Obama
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So much for state's rights.
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So strict constructionists that they threw out a century old Montana campaign finance law.
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The national debt increased by several trillion thanks to him
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Hear that giant sucking sound?

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No, the best Republican President, Clinton, signed that into law.

I know in liberal fantasy land, Obama = Jesus and Bush = The Devil, but reality is a very different place.

First of all, in the years after Saddam Hussein was toppled, Iraq became a functioning young democracy that still faced some challenge. For five years, we saw a reduction in violence there and people were clearly better off without Saddam Hussein in power. President Obama's decision to not leave residual forces behind in Iraq has led to a very dangerous situation there today.

Secondly, without the infrastructure put in place when Bush was President, we would not have gotten OBL. Obama deserves credit for ordering the mission, but Bush gets credit for rebuilding our military and having a presence in the region.

The reason illegal immigration has seen it's largest reductions under Obama is because President Bush doubled border patrol agents between 2004 and 2010.

Partial-birth abortion is essentially murder no matter how you put it, period.

The McCain-Feingold campaign finance laws and those like it may be well intended, but they result in a violation of the first amendment.

President Bush increased the national debt by $5 trillion over 8 years, compared with $8 trillion over 6 years and 7 months under this President.

President Bush 41 signed NAFTA into law, President Clinton implemented NAFTA. Both deserve credit.  

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dudeabides
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« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2015, 12:37:57 AM »

The economy in Obama's first term was worse off than it was when Bush left office, and it's not that much better now.

Congratulations! You are the most insufferable hack on this forum. If Obama ended poverty overnight you'd still find a way to spin it against him; maybe you should stop pulling the wool over your own eyes.

Obama inherited an economy in a tailspin and is now overseeing the longest streak of job growth on record. Mind you this is in spite of numerous headwinds due to the Republicans to hamper economic growth by destroying business confidence with government shutdowns, blocking useful government programs and stimulus, and getting our credit rating downgraded.


It has become abundantly clear that you don't read.

Here comes the part where I destroy your arguments lies using pictures/charts:













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