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« on: June 05, 2023, 07:31:39 PM »

For my part, and with how little I can probably say about the situation as the mods are handling it, I do believe I took a completely wrong approach out of desperation to take a months' long conflict to an immediate conclusion. I have told YT that I understand his anger and frustration, and I've been honoring his wishes in not contacting him.

Whatever the moderators end up doing, I'll own what I did and I will accept consequences. I've already spoken to some and told them that I regret my part in this, which I sincerely do and came to regret it further as the last week progressed. I also stand by not having, or ever wanting, any information about YT's identity.

I won't ask or expect forgiveness from YT or anyone, but I do regret my actions and this is all I will say right now while the mods sort everything out.

That doesn't really cut it. While I'm not on YT's side on this, I fail to see how any apology would ever be accepted by his side, period.

The only solution here is a permaban, assuming there actually was any doxxing (and even if there wasn't, a permaban is probably appropriate to send a message that blackmail isn't acceptable on the forum in my opinion).
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« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2023, 10:12:37 PM »

For my part, and with how little I can probably say about the situation as the mods are handling it, I do believe I took a completely wrong approach out of desperation to take a months' long conflict to an immediate conclusion. I have told YT that I understand his anger and frustration, and I've been honoring his wishes in not contacting him.

Whatever the moderators end up doing, I'll own what I did and I will accept consequences. I've already spoken to some and told them that I regret my part in this, which I sincerely do and came to regret it further as the last week progressed. I also stand by not having, or ever wanting, any information about YT's identity.

I won't ask or expect forgiveness from YT or anyone, but I do regret my actions and this is all I will say right now while the mods sort everything out.

That doesn't really cut it. While I'm not on YT's side on this, I fail to see how any apology would ever be accepted by his side, period.

The only solution here is a permaban, assuming there actually was any doxxing (and even if there wasn't, a permaban is probably appropriate to send a message that blackmail isn't acceptable on the forum in my opinion).
A permaban is too far. While I hate to pull the “Scott has been here so long” card because it’s unfair , that is reality. Scott has been a contributing member here for years and a permaban over one incident he does seem genuinely repentful for considering no information was actually released and the specifics of the incident (it was something said in an atlasia group chat that seems to have been leaked for in game political purposes and that is how the information was received) However a temporary censure or ban would certainly be appropriate. If this were a poster with a history of being on the borderline of a ban or identifying information actually was released/used as blackmail (the information was private but not identifying afaik) then a permaban would be appropriate imo.

Actually insane to suggest this. If scott was a republican, he would be gone asap. This wouldn't be a topic. He would be gone, mods would make a thread condemning the republican's actions and the left would rally to the defense of x person who was doxxed. Scott needs to be permaed. People have been muted/suspended/banned for less.


We all know what happened. Scott was wrong and should be permaed.

That's not true either. Reaganfan got away with being a literal Nazi for over a decade, so your statement here is complete bullsh**t.
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« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2023, 08:33:45 PM »

Regarding Atlasia, YT and Scott

Scott has been banned from Atlasia-related boards for 3 months
YoungTexan's account has been deleted per a request from a couple weeks ago that I originally denied but decided to accept.

I've tried to keep forum moderation separate from Discord issues, which is something some of you may or may not agree with, and I'm still largely sticking with this, but this drama with Atlasia needs to stop. So from now on, any serious threats involving doxxing or to one's personal safety made on Discord from one forum user to another involving Atlasia can result in a ban from the game boards. I'm not laying down specific guidelines at this point, so issues will be considered on a case by case basis. This is not retroactive, either.

Regarding Scott, I'm still not even sure what he actually threatened to release, only that it doesn't seem to be personally identifiable information that is generally what is considered to be "doxxing," which makes this entire situation pretty ridiculous to me. Nonetheless, regardless of what information here is actually at stake, I'm very disappointed in this behavior and it is not at all appropriate for the game or the forum. With that, and given the larger issue of YT's legal threats, I've opted to set an example here.

Regarding YoungTexan, I'm just going to say that this is supposed to be a community for people to discuss politics and in some corners, play a game simulating elections and politics. It's not a vehicle to go overboard on personal drama. I don't appreciate being threatened and just so everyone is clear, I will not take that lightly. If you have gotten to the point that you're threatening to sue a forum over something that hasn't even happened, in a game, and despite the fact that any release of information here in this kind of context will be immediately deleted upon receipt by an available moderator, then I'm not sure you belong here, and certainly not in forum-related games. That being said, if YT opts to come back to the forum at some point, I won't have him in Atlasia.


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