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DINGO Joe
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« on: December 03, 2018, 12:27:45 AM »

I noticed back in the 2013 immigration debate, that Iowa came back as the most hostile of the swing states to a path to citizenship. It was only swing state at the time where a plurality said they were against according to one poll.

For years Grassley opposed the comprehensive bills and Harkin voted no on the 2007 bill. I think there is a lesson there are about this state when it comes to that issue. 

That they're a bunch of hypocrites?  I guarantee that anyplace in Iowa that has any involvement with livestock/poultry and the processing thereof, Hispanics will magically appear.  They'll employee them but they don't want them to be citizens.  Is that the lesson?
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« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2018, 12:46:55 AM »

Rural areas, unless they have a large immigrant population for food processing purposes, tend to be much older than average and more disabled than average.  The bright and capable have all runoff to the big city, unless they inherited the family farm, and even then, they probably sold  the farm to Big Farma, and ran off to the big city anyway.  Tends to make the people left cranky and bitter.

I do agree that the field organizer from the OP was a rather poor choice.
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« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2018, 12:55:49 AM »

This really is just an anecdotal story from a bitter campaign worker from a losing candidate and several parts of her story are likely just bs. First off, if you know anything about social desirability bias or even basic psychology you would know that, even if they believed it, nobody would just tell a random stranger who showed up on their doorstep that they hated women. Second, this smearing of wcw (especially in the Midwest and Rust Belt) is just sour grapes from bitter Hillary supporters who ignore that many of these people voted heavily for Obama in 2008 and 2012

Rural areas tend to swing against either party in power after some point because they are almost perpetually in decline, you can tout Hope or MAGA, but many of these places have been on a losing streak since the 70s or the 50s or the 30s.

But yes the OP make me almost seem subtle by comparison
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« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2018, 01:17:35 AM »

This really is just an anecdotal story from a bitter campaign worker from a losing candidate and several parts of her story are likely just bs. First off, if you know anything about social desirability bias or even basic psychology you would know that, even if they believed it, nobody would just tell a random stranger who showed up on their doorstep that they hated women. Second, this smearing of wcw (especially in the Midwest and Rust Belt) is just sour grapes from bitter Hillary supporters who ignore that many of these people voted heavily for Obama in 2008 and 2012

Rural areas tend to swing against either party in power after some point because they are almost perpetually in decline, you can tout Hope or MAGA, but many of these places have been on a losing streak since the 70s or the 50s or the 30s.

But yes the OP make me almost seem subtle by comparison
Yes but unlike, when W. Was president or Reagan/Bush were president, the modern democrats seem inclined to spit in the face and smear many of the same people who had part of their coalition for years as racist.

Which came first, the Trump or the racist hick?
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« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2018, 02:14:12 PM »

Terrific! 8 years of crazy AOC pushing for crazy policies and we're winning both rural Iowa and white suburbans Smiley.

Who is we dude? You are from effing Netherlands.

Normally i would say ignore our small clan of Euro-Fascists, but it is vaguely relevant to Iowa as the only reason white nationalist Steve King is still in Congress are the hypocritical Dutchmen that inhabit the NW counties of Iowa.  You'll find several counties in that part of Iowa with mysteriously large populations of Hispanics all being employed by the "good" racist hicks. 

They do seem to be paranoid about what they're up to as the recent article about the Nunes family farm demonstrated

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a23471864/devin-nunes-family-farm-iowa-california/

Hopefully, their farms can all be raided and they can all be sent back to Europe even if they've been here for 150 years or so.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2018, 12:33:23 AM »

Good article/post. 
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