Southeast Run-Off Results Thread

[TomC]

All these votes are the same as in the general. Who might change votes? Who might not vote in the runoff?

[TomC]

SamSpade voted for Dubya in no fewer than three endorsements (Constitutional Union, Right to Life, and NRA). Yet he voted statesrights in the election (which caused the tie.) To me this is the vote to watch. With his nullification efforts, statesrights told our senators their efforts, their bills  really didn't have much authority with him. Why Spade wants him as governor is beyond me. Dibble too. Why he'd put the rights of the state above the rights of the individual is beyond me. Although I'm betting the whole "nullification" of the two gub. votes last weekend will have a slight backlash in favor of states. The whole thing, including Dubya's statement he'd resign if elected, put a bad taste in my mouth.

[TomC]

SamSpade voted for Dubya in no fewer than three endorsements (Constitutional Union, Right to Life, and NRA). Yet he voted statesrights in the election (which caused the tie.) To me this is the vote to watch. With his nullification efforts, statesrights told our senators their efforts, their bills  really didn't have much authority with him. Why Spade wants him as governor is beyond me. Dibble too. Why he'd put the rights of the state above the rights of the individual is beyond me. Although I'm betting the whole "nullification" of the two gub. votes last weekend will have a slight backlash in favor of states. The whole thing, including Dubya's statement he'd resign if elected, put a bad taste in my mouth.

I only considered resigning if I won the first election in order to clear up the controversy over nclib's and josh22's votes by holding another one.  Since the votes were tied, that became unnecessary.

If Josh and nclib were told that editing their votes would invalidate their votes, I see no reason you should have deemed the results illegitimate or questionable, had you won. I still plan on voting for you.

[TomC]

SamSpade voted for Dubya in no fewer than three endorsements (Constitutional Union, Right to Life, and NRA). Yet he voted statesrights in the election (which caused the tie.) To me this is the vote to watch. With his nullification efforts, statesrights told our senators their efforts, their bills  really didn't have much authority with him. Why Spade wants him as governor is beyond me. Dibble too. Why he'd put the rights of the state above the rights of the individual is beyond me. Although I'm betting the whole "nullification" of the two gub. votes last weekend will have a slight backlash in favor of states. The whole thing, including Dubya's statement he'd resign if elected, put a bad taste in my mouth.

Um, you don't even have the "crisis" down right. As I said all along  I would respect whatever the courts decision may be. You are just uninformed on the matter or a liar. I certainly think its the former though. You can ask spade and dibble themselves what I told them in IM. Instead of crucifying me on your cross of half truths find out what the facts of the matter were before passing judgement? Seriously, give me that chance.

I did not mean you literally told them. As I said "by your ...efforts." Although here:

My second act as Governor of the SE Region is to immediately nullify The Marriage Equity Act. I feel that the people of the Southeast have not had the right to voice their opinion on this matter, the proper manner in which this issue should be addressed and that's at the polls. I feel this Act oversteps the bounds of the federal government and is a clear violation of region rights. The southeast will no longer recognize any "gay marriage" as a legal contract of any sort. I would ask for a citizen of the southeast to propose a bill dealing with this matter, if he/she wishes, so it can be voted for by the citizens of the southeast.      

Might I remind you that in the Powers of the Senate and the Regions amendment the power to set and define marriage is delegated to the Senate not to the Regions. Thus all of your actions are unconstitutional, are illegal and treason against the Constitution of Atlasia.

I feel the federal govt of Atlasia has overstepped its bounds in regard to power. Federal power is getting out of control and I plan on crushing an obnoxious and instrusive govt. before it starts. I am defending the right of the people to have a voice and stopping a Senatorial tyranny.

You
1. had called the Senate tyrannical. I believe this supports my claim that you were trying to usurp the power that the senate, including Spade, had exercised. You tried to invalidate their work- you claim the Senate was abusing its power, unless tyrannical means something I'm not aware of.

2. May have ultimately said you would support whatever the S. Court said, but here in the act that initiated the crisis had no indication that the court was needed. You claimed that it was the people of the Southeast who needed to be consulted, not the Supreme Court.

It was your OPINION (see "I feel" above) that the federal government had overstepped its bounds. I disagree with that opinion. I support the federal government's efforts to protect the rights of individuals, including gays and lesbians. Perusing other posts, I was not alone on this belief. While you and I have different opinions on the matter, I don't see how I have distorted the facts or lied, beyond the figurative "told our senators" which was modified buy "With his efforts" which I thought was sufficient to indicate you hadn't literally said it. Seeing the "tyrranical Senate" remark, I'm not sure I was off base. Apologies if you feel I misrepresented you, but I think it's a difference of opinion rather than a lack of truth. I wish for the federal government to protect our rights against acts of the state. I don't see you share that view.

[TomC]

With Q's vote, it is now another tie with 8 votes to both Governor Dubya and StatesRights.  With AuH2O and Jake unlikely to vote, Senator Sam Spade is going to be the deciding vote in this race:

Lt. Gov. StatesRights
Harry
Bono
Ebowed
Dave
Cosmo Kramer
StatesRights
Josh22
John Dibble

Gov. Dubya
HTMLdon
Ben Meyers
Dubya
BrandonH
nclib
ThePrezMex
Cash
Q

Eligible voters left:
Sam Spade
Jake
AU2H0

Yep, ain't it the truth.

He's toying with us, now! How cruel.

Is it tonight the voting ends or tomorrow night?