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Title: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 24, 2004, 11:26:22 AM
Had to get those off my chest, and couldn't find the old thread... :(

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A blowout that could have been even better. Kerry/Clarke v Bush/Cheney. PV was 54-46 to myself. I won Kansas by a margin of 13 points, 56-43.


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 24, 2004, 11:50:28 AM
Ran as Gore/Clark v Bush/Cheney. Was very close until the final days. I hit him with a power 3 scandal which he immiediately spun away. With only a day or so left I wrecked his base completely digging into the South opening up leads in NC, VA and TX. The tossups in those final days were: New Mecixo, New Jersey, Texas, Georgia, Minnesota, Ohio, Lousiana and Arkansas. I won 5 of those.

In total, I won the PV 53-47 and the EV 419-119.


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Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: A18 on September 24, 2004, 12:07:55 PM
I won every state plus DC as a custom candidate once. I think I was running against Ralph Nader, though.

When is the new PF version coming out?


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: A18 on September 24, 2004, 12:38:32 PM
Ran as Bush/Cheney against Kerry/Edwards in 2004. Won 314 to 224.

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Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on September 25, 2004, 10:31:36 AM

When is the new PF version coming out?
The homepage for President Forever was updated Thursday, the new report now says that primaries will not be out for several weeks.


Title: Re:President Forever results thread...
Post by: DA on September 26, 2004, 04:43:47 AM
I hadn't updated mine for a while, I couldn't believe all that the've added.
Best. Shareware. Ever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 05, 2004, 04:37:00 PM
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Clark/Kerry v Bush/Cheney.

I ran out of funds in the final days... :(

Losing Texas by a mere point was rough...I also lost South Carolina and Mississippi by very narrow margins.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 05, 2004, 07:25:55 PM
my best ever game was this. In 1996 I smoked Dole with 55% of the vote, Perot taking about 11%:

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I also did this as Mondale:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: A18 on October 05, 2004, 09:52:09 PM
That's an accomplishment for Mondale. I mean, only losing 42 states?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 05, 2004, 10:15:38 PM
I just did this as Hillary Clinton/Obama vs. DeLay/Owens in the 2008 scenario "A New Direction". Oh yeah, did I just whoop his ass:

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And with no scandals on DeLay, and one on me. I just kept slamming his integrity.

I also got over 70% in NJ, over 60% in VA, CT, MA, MD, DE, WA, TN, NM, ME, IL, RI, NY and WV, and almost 60% in PA, NC, OH, MO, OR, NH, CO. And DeLay only won Kansas, North Dakota and South Carolina by less than 3 points. 56% of the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 05, 2004, 10:18:46 PM
And for the record, all of these are with Dynamism off.

Also, here's one that I made. It's a ridiculous scenario that I never thought had any chance of happening, I just did it because it'd be easy and thought I would start small in making them. I want to try an Edwards vs. Santorum one in 2012 sometime. Try it out: http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/150733-J7EH/DeanTheIndependent-2004.zip


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 07, 2004, 03:32:03 AM
Kerry/Dean 446 vs. Bush/Cheney 92

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Closest GOP state:
Georgia by 1.5%

Closest DEM state:
Maryland  by 1.2%

This was a good one-I won Texas and Utah ;) :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 08, 2004, 11:28:42 PM
I said that I wouldn't play as anyone but Dean until I won with him.

I pulled it off. However I lost the popular vote 51/48.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 08, 2004, 11:34:46 PM
Did anyone try my independent Dean scenario?

I know it's not really much different from the typical 2004, but I just wanted to start with something easy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 08, 2004, 11:38:32 PM
I tried it, but Dean wasn't powerful enough IMHO. It was still really good :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 10, 2004, 09:41:55 AM
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I always thought it was impossible to lose with Powell, but this one was damn close...I was hit by a power 8 Scandal in the final days, ran out of money with a day or so left, Kerry won all the debates, the PV was more or less a tie, Kerry won almost all of the tossups by substantial margins, my ads weren't that good...but I still managed to win.

CA, CT and IN were all decided by less than 2 points.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 10, 2004, 11:58:24 AM
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One of my better results ever.

Edwards/Clark v Bush/Cheney.

One of the keys to this win were huge debate wins which meant a lot of momentum on issue familiarity. I won the pv 53-47. No scandals in the campaign at all.

Closest states:

Minnesota, Edwards 51-49

Wisconsin: Edwards 51-49

South Carolina: 51-48

Kansas: 51-48

California: 51-48

Best for Edwards:

DC: 86%

Maine: 72% (!)

West Virginia: 64%

Mississippi: 63% (!!)

Oregon: 62%

Best for Bush:

North Dakota: 72%

WYoming: 66%

Idaho: 66%

Utah: 65%

Montana: 64%





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 10, 2004, 12:03:13 PM
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I always thought it was impossible to lose with Powell, but this one was damn close...I was hit by a power 8 Scandal in the final days, ran out of money with a day or so left, Kerry won all the debates, the PV was more or less a tie, Kerry won almost all of the tossups by substantial margins, my ads weren't that good...but I still managed to win.

CA, CT and IN were all decided by less than 2 points.

Kerry won OK and KS and Powell won NY and CA?

Why do you people use dynamism?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 7,052,770 on October 10, 2004, 02:48:10 PM
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I played the UNA 2004 scenario as Stockwell Day/Bill Frist against Gore/Lieberman and won 420-191.  53% of the PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 10, 2004, 03:49:05 PM
Man, it sure is easy to beat Tom DeLay.

I just did this as Russ Feingold:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 12, 2004, 01:55:55 PM
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I tried to do a game that would be similar to the actual race. So, Kerry/Edwards v Bush/Cheney for starters.

Then I let Kerry run on Military Intervention, Public Health Care and Leadership. I also researched PHC. I focused more on the battlegrounds than I usually do as well. The result was pretty good, as you can see above... ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on October 12, 2004, 05:40:22 PM
Call me dumb, but how do I generate these maps? I have my best result that I want to post. I have it memorized pretty well.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 13, 2004, 04:20:28 AM
You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. :)

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YRABNNRM on October 13, 2004, 06:57:54 PM
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McCain/Scarborough- 53%(66,688,735) 433 EVs
Gore/Kerry- 39%(49,288824) 105 EVs
Buchanan/Foster- 2%(2,726,293)
Nader/LaDuke- 3%(4,744,990)

I won most states by large margins.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 13, 2004, 08:42:42 PM
You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. :)

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry

Kerry's third main issue is bashing Bush over the economy, not really classifiable here. I'd go with Personal Tax he has the center-left position.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 15, 2004, 04:42:08 PM
You make a map on the EV-calculator on this site. Then you right-click somewhere on the map, go to properties and copy the url. You insert it between img and /img in brackets and post. :)

In real life, what would people say are the theme issues for Kerry and Bush respectively?

My feelings so far:

Kerry:

Leadership-Kerry

Military Intervention-Attacking Bush

Public Health Care-Kerry

Least sure about the last issue, several could qualify here. Leadership is meant to be Vietnam, purple hearts etc.

Bush:

Leadership-Bush

Terrorism-Bush

Leadership-Attacking Kerry

Kerry's third main issue is bashing Bush over the economy, not really classifiable here. I'd go with Personal Tax he has the center-left position.

Yeah, I know that, but as you yourself point out it isn't classifiable. I started doing free trade a while, since that sort of encompasses out-sourcing.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 15, 2004, 04:49:20 PM
Ran the race again, this time made it even more realistic, with Bush going more for news spinning and ground game, Kerry more for endorsments and barnstorming, etc. I also included the other candidates.

This one was really tight, Bush led in the EC throughout the entire campaign whereas the PV was tied.

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PV: Kerry won the 2-party vote 50.2-49.8

EV: Kerry won 280-258

Closest states were Nevada, Tennessee, New Hampshire, Maryland, Virginia, Vermont, North Carolina, West Virginia and Florida.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on October 15, 2004, 05:52:53 PM
Indiana won by Kerry... in my dreams *sniff*


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 15, 2004, 06:28:54 PM
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Kerry: 51.09%, 274

Bush:  48.91%, 264


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 16, 2004, 07:39:44 PM
Removed dynamism for those last games, btw.

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Kerry won the PV 52-48 and the EV 311-227.

Bush was lucky winning a lot of squeakers...New Hampshire, Georgia, West Virginia and Colorado for instance.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 17, 2004, 12:50:01 PM
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PV: Kerry wins 51-49

EV: Kerry wins 347-191


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 17, 2004, 01:16:47 PM
I'm getting mad at you Gustaf. Why can't you ever seem to win Minnesota?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 17, 2004, 01:47:59 PM
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2000 McCain/Gore
McCain 275 50.1%
Gore    263  49.9%

Tossups were:
NC 51.0/49.0
TN 50.2/49.8
MO 50.4/49.6
IA 50.1/49.9

I ran out of money in the last week and he sprung 3 big scandals, but I won all the debates and rode issue familiarity.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 17, 2004, 06:05:20 PM
Try the 2008 scenario A New Direction and run Hagel against Edwards if you want a close race. Can't get much closer than it usually does.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 17, 2004, 06:34:11 PM
here's my latest game of it. I won the popular vote 51-48:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on October 18, 2004, 01:47:16 PM
hey gusaf...play me vs you...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YRABNNRM on October 18, 2004, 04:13:36 PM
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Pataki/Owens 53%(66,593466) 369
Edwards/Obama 46%(58,440,220) 169

Using the 2008 A New Direction scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 19, 2004, 04:56:58 PM
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Here you go, BRTD. ;)

Another one of those real-life-like matchups...Bush sprung a medium scandal on Kerry and won the 2nd debate...I'm suprised Kerry actually managed to get as close as he did in the end. The tossups in the end were CA, OH, WV, MN and NV I think. The closest states were WI, NV and OH.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Bush on October 19, 2004, 07:43:00 PM
 How do you play this game? Were do you find it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on October 19, 2004, 08:33:41 PM
How do you play this game? Were do you find it?

Google search result for "President Forever" should get you there. You need to pay $12 to buy the game so it is completable - it is worth it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 20, 2004, 12:01:41 AM
just played 2004 using Gustaf's set up, with Personal Tax as Kerry's third theme. This is what happened:

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Thank Nader for Connecticut, he took 65,296 votes allowing Bush to win it by 119. Next closest state was Nevada, I took it by 1418 votes, with Nader getting 28362 and Badnarik getting 39098.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on October 20, 2004, 03:34:25 PM
My best win ever as General Wesley Clark:

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Clark/Vilsack: 483

Bush/Cheney: 55

Nolan/Millay: 0 (But, somehow, 4,321,987 popular votes)

Wesley Clark has to be the best Democrat in the 2004 Scenario.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 20, 2004, 04:37:53 PM
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Kerry ran with free trade/Kerry as his 3rd theme. Bush ran on Leadership/Bush, Integrity/Attacking Kerry and Terrorism/Bush.

PV:

Kerry: 48.52%

Bush: 46.24%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Redefeatbush04 on October 22, 2004, 09:40:25 PM
Fine, since the map won't appear:
Changes from 2000 ....

Dem to Rep

Wisconsin
Iowa
Michigan
New Mexico


Rep to Dem

New Hampshire
West Virginia
Florida (dem to dem)
Missouri
Colorado


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 22, 2004, 11:15:41 PM
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Gore vs. Bush 2004
Bush 351 51%
Gore 187 48%

Tossups were:
HI 560 votes
CA
MD
IL
IN


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 23, 2004, 01:19:30 AM
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Gore vs. Bush 2004
Bush 351 51%
Gore 187 48%

Tossups were:
HI 560 votes
CA
MD
IL
IN

That's interesting.  Gore actually won his home state in that scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 24, 2004, 12:16:08 AM
Feingold/Richardson sinks Pataki/Owens. Oh yeah:

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Popular vote 52/47

closest state: Arizona (Pataki by 0.5%)

Interesting state: Washington. Was Pataki up by 7 at one point, voted for Feingold by 21. That scandal I unleashed on him the last week sure had an effect.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 24, 2004, 12:50:43 AM
Off the 2020 scenario. As Gavin Newsom I won an electoral landslide but only 33% of the popular vote against Todd Staples, Matt Gonzalez, and Michael Badnarik:

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Gonzalez = Green, Badnarik = gray


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 24, 2004, 03:17:15 PM
Joke game
Kucinich v Bush v Nolan v Nader
Bush      52 497
Kucinich 38    41
Nader      9 
Nolan       1

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Maine had a 137 vote margin so I guess ME-2 went for Bush.

Major tossups were MA 48.0
                                      47.8
                                 NY 46.9
                                      46.7


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Redefeatbush04 on October 25, 2004, 05:16:16 PM
I finally got it, and have played two games. First as Kerry/Lieberman against Bush/Cheney (lost.....barely), and once as Ross Perot in 92 and did decent (I won Alaska by only 19 votes!!!)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on October 30, 2004, 11:56:21 AM
Lots of people talked about the only way for a 3rd party person to win/get any states was for them to be like Perot and have lots of money.  This is true!

Before election map:
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Overall map:
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As you can see, Kerry almost won, but, of course, it went to the House where Bush won :(

% maps:
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(Whoops, that's Libertarian % not Democratic %)

(Yes, I did run ads in all states at the end)

(IIRC Colorado was the closest state w/~32-31-32-2 (D-R-I-L) or some such)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 30, 2004, 05:24:43 PM
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Roy Moore v. John Edwards 2008
w/Moore as an actual third party canidate.

Heartbreakers in AR, LA, MS, GA, MT, OK, & SC
all lost by 2% or less


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 31, 2004, 03:16:24 PM
here's an interesting 1968.

the good news: I won
the bad news: I lost Minnesota

that's right, I lost Minnesota as HUMPHREY. Talk about a hollow victory.

More weirdness: look at Alaska and Hawaii. And Utah :)

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Nixon 41, Humphrey 45, Wallace 12


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on October 31, 2004, 03:36:02 PM
Why would Minnesota vote against its own god (Humphrey)? I mean they have enough malls and universities named after him there that he doesn't even need to campaign...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on October 31, 2004, 03:40:06 PM
https://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/genusmap.php?year=1968&ev_p=0&AL=3;10;5&AK=3;3;5&AZ=1;5;5&AR=1;6;5&CA=1;40;5&CO=1;6;5&CT=1;8;5&DE=1;3;5&DC=1;3;5&FL=1;14;5&GA=1;12;5&HI=1;4;5&ID=3;4;5&IL=1;26;5&IN=1;13;5&IA=1;9;5&KS=3;7;5&KY=1;9;5&LA=1;10;5&ME=1;4;5&MD=1;10;5&MA=1;14;5&MI=1;21;5&MN=1;10;5&MS=1;7;5&MO=1;12;5&MT=1;4;5&NE=3;5;5&NV=1;3;5&NH=1;4;5&NJ=1;17;5&NM=1;4;5&NY=1;43;5&NC=1;13;5&ND=3;4;5&OH=1;26;5&OK=1;8;5&OR=1;6;5&PA=1;29;5&RI=1;4;5&SC=1;8;5&SD=3;4;5&TN=1;11;5&TX=1;25;5&UT=3;4;5&VT=1;3;5&VA=1;12;5&WA=1;9;5&WV=1;7;5&WI=1;12;5&WY=3;3;5

Fix this now!

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Modify this now :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on October 31, 2004, 08:55:27 PM
can anyone top this as LaFollette in 1924?

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on November 04, 2004, 09:37:06 PM
This was a weird one...

I was doing great and going for a landslide, but started losing some states. However, in the end, I got a pretty good EV victory while losing the PV.

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On the New Direction scenario...Feingold/Frist/Cobb/Ventura.

Notice that the map is quite boring...much like 2000 except for NM going Republican and NH going Democrat. Oh, and one other state changed hands, too. ;)

CA was darn close which accounts for my PV loss. I won it by 13,862 votes - 45.9% to 45.8%.

Nationwide:

Frist 47% (59,392,857)
Feingold 46% (57,593,205)
Cobb 3% (3,875,403)
Ventura 3% (3,860,813)

I also am proud to say I won Texas by 8.6. Cobb got an amazing 7.9% there, too.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on November 07, 2004, 12:54:53 AM
I actually won as Carter in 1980! Guess I should thank Anderson for that power 9 scandal. :) . He hit Reagan with another power 6 scandal, but right afterwords I got hit with one later. Luckily mine was spun out after only one turn, and Reagan's continued for quite awhile. Then I drawed all the debates, and Reagan was sunk.

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Carter 49 Reagan 44 Anderson 6

closet state: Pennsylvania. I took it by only 0.1%, less than 4000 votes. NJ was also fairly close (only 0.5% margin).

Now if only that was the actual result. Things would be so much better now. sigh...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Christopher on November 07, 2004, 11:34:26 AM
 Hmmm...welll I won 1980 with Reagan in every state and damn near won D.C. with like 43% of the vote!

 Another goodie was when we (me and my buddy) won a majority with Ross Perrot in 92 by like 3 votes! It was hard though!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on November 07, 2004, 09:38:18 PM
I once won as Carter in 1980 with something like 500 EVs :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on November 09, 2004, 05:42:03 PM
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I played as both Bush and Kerry trying to mimick the actual campaign...Kerry did a flip-flop on free trade to move in a populist direction. His ad production got delayed and the debate was drawn...Bush got a lot of momentum and Kerry never recovered. In the end the PV remained pretty close, Bush winning by close to 4 points, but carrying almost all the close states and getting 400 EVs.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on November 09, 2004, 06:39:08 PM
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I played as both Bush and Kerry trying to mimick the actual campaign...Kerry did a flip-flop on free trade to move in a populist direction. His ad production got delayed and the debate was drawn...Bush got a lot of momentum and Kerry never recovered. In the end the PV remained pretty close, Bush winning by close to 4 points, but carrying almost all the close states and getting 400 EVs.

Wish that would have happened in really life.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on November 10, 2004, 04:02:13 PM
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As an experiment I tried to create the worse possible Democratic ticket and run it as good as I could against the best possible Republican ticket. I decided on Powell/Rice v Sharpton/Lieberman. I won with SHarpton, but only narrowly after winning the debates. PV was Sharpton roughly 51-48...so this was sort of the reversed of the real result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on November 23, 2004, 06:14:25 PM
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Dean/Gephardt v Bush/Cheney, me running Dean. I included Nader and Browne too. No dynamism.

I kicked ass, basically. And with a positive campaign only and one debate tied. No idea how it happened really. Dean won the PV 51-45 and Bush was lucky to get away with as many EVs as he did.

Closest states were:

VA: Bush by 0

AR: Bush by 0

WV: Bush by 1

TN: Dean by 1

I'm very proud of coming within 3 points in Texas and 2 points in Georgia. :)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on December 16, 2004, 09:16:31 PM
Josh22/Amos vs. Fritz

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Fritz: 55,368,787 votes (44%) 250 EVs
Josh: 49,802,006 votes (39%) 288 EVs
Anderson (my super independent): 19,716,817 votes (15%) 0 EVs

Heaps of close states that Josh narrowly one; also Anderson stole from both sides.

States with neither Josh nor Fritz over 50%

Josh wins

Hawaii (43.1% to 40.3%)
California (39.7% to 39.5%)
Nevada (42.8% to 35.6%)
Utah (45.8% to 44.0%)
Montana (45.8% to 44.4%)
Colorado (41.3% to 40.2%)
Nebraska (46.6% to 44.0%)
Kansas (Josh 38.7%, Anderson 37.2%, Fritz 24.0%)
Louisiana (44.4% to 43.5%)
Arkansas (44.4% to 33.9%)
Missouri (36.6% to 35.6%)
Wisconsin (44.3% to 29.2%)
Florida (44.0% to 41.1%)
Georgia (47.2% to 36.6%)
Connecticut (42.6% to 36.1%)
New Hampshire (48.1% to 29.6%)

Fritz wins
North Dakota (47.3% to 44.2%)
Ohio (46.9% to 34.4%)
Tennessee (48.8% to 31.3%)
Maryland (Anderson's Home State) (45.2% to 30.8%)
Pennsylvania (38.1% to 37.0%)
New Jersey (44.8% to 28.4%)
Vermont (48.5% to 32.5%)

CLOSEST STATES

California, Josh by 0.2%
Louisiana, Josh by 0.9%
Missouri, Josh by 1.0%
Colorado, Josh by 1.1%
Pennsylvania, Fritz by 1.1%
Montana, Josh by 1.4%
Utah, Josh by 1.8%
Nebraska, Josh by 2.6%
Hawaii, Josh by 2.8%
Florida, Josh by 2.9%

All but 1 won by Josh.

This was TIGHT, but Josh did better on the last day I suppose. Fritz spent it with his VP in CA, Josh spent it in Colorado with his VP in Florida.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on December 16, 2004, 09:20:15 PM
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I played as both Bush and Kerry trying to mimick the actual campaign...Kerry did a flip-flop on free trade to move in a populist direction. His ad production got delayed and the debate was drawn...Bush got a lot of momentum and Kerry never recovered. In the end the PV remained pretty close, Bush winning by close to 4 points, but carrying almost all the close states and getting 400 EVs.

It's funny looking back at the preprogrammed numbers for this election and seeing what the authors assumed the situation in states like West Virginia and Vermont was.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 14, 2005, 12:37:28 PM
It's funny looking back at the preprogrammed numbers for this election and seeing what the authors assumed the situation in states like West Virginia and Vermont was.

Very true. Moreover, it's interesting to look at their gauge of the candidates. I'm beginnign to change these around now. What do you think the real stats should be? I lowered Kerry's charisma and leadership one step each. I also lowered Edwards debating skill to 3 and his charisma to 4. (5-5 there was just way out there...)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 14, 2005, 03:19:18 PM
I won comfortably as Carter, playing without Anderson though.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 20, 2005, 10:14:45 AM
Played a standard left v a standard right candidate (I was the libertarian flip-flopping numerous times and otherwise doing nothing) to see how it would turn out. The result:

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James Right/Colin Powell: 51% of the vote and 264 electoral votes

John Left/Joseph Lieberman: 48% of the vote and 274 electoral votes

Closest state was New Hampshire which Left won by about 3 points. The first debate was a draw, the 2nd Left won and the 3rd RIght won. Left won strictly due to campaigning in the right states though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on March 20, 2005, 02:01:49 PM
I really need to install this game on my home comp.

My previous comp sucked ass and would freeze up if I ran it, so I installed it in my student files at school. I can only play it on the school computers then, but that's OK because I have to use for them a bunch of other things anyway. But it'd more convenient to have it on this one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 23, 2005, 04:50:56 PM
My new best as Wallace in 1968:

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Hubert Humphrey/Ted Kennedy: 212 Electoral Votes

Richard Nixon/Ronald Reagan: 202

George Wallace/Curtis E. LeMay: 124

Yes, I changed running mates just for the heck of it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 23, 2005, 07:52:55 PM
Is there a way to get scenerios other than 2004, 1992, 1980, and 1960, the ones that come with the original game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 23, 2005, 08:26:05 PM
Is there a way to get scenerios other than 2004, 1992, 1980, and 1960, the ones that come with the original game?

Download them from here http://www.80soft.com/pforever/scenarios/index.htm

if this is what you looking for that is. The site has been very nicely organized to say the least.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 25, 2005, 12:09:05 PM
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This is my best result ever with Kerry/Edwards v Bush/Cheney v Nader/Camejo v Badnarik/someone

I changed the candidates to make the game closer to real life, lowering Kerry's charisma to 2 and his leadership to 3 as well as Bush's issue knowledge to 2. I also lowered Nader's leadership to 2 his charisma to 1 and something else too (Nader is way overrated in the game, he got about 0.5% in the real election and constantly gets about 4% in the game).

I tied Bush in the popular vote of the old confederacy and won the national popular vote by about 10 points or 12 million votes, 52-42 with Nader at 3% and Badnarik at 1%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 25, 2005, 06:02:50 PM
Using the "New Frontiers - 1960", "Goldwater vs LBJ - II - 1964" and "1968mm" scenarios available on 80soft.com I just played the three U.S. presidential elections of the 1960ies. I always took the role of the Democratic candidate.




1960: Kennedy smashes Nixon.

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John F. Kennedy
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 302

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 43%
Electoral Vote: 227

Harry Byrd
Popular Vote: 1%
Electoral Vote: 8



1964: Johnson wins... but with a rather "weak" electoral result (I mean, for Johnson).

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Lyndon B. Johnson
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 359

Barry Goldwater
Popular Vote: 45%
Electoral Vote: 179




1968: In a rather dirty race for the presidency, both Humphrey and Nixon suffered some major scandals, leading to a suprisingly good result for Wallace and no majority in the Electoral College (Congress picked Hubert Humphrey in the end).

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Hubert Humphrey
Popular Vote: 43%
Electoral Vote: 250

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 207

George Wallace
Popular Vote: 16%
Electoral Vote: 82


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 25, 2005, 08:00:49 PM
Playing as Harry vs. PBrunsel, Nation, and Hughento.

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276-262 PB win. I gave myself and PB a very limited budget and gave Nation and Hugh huge amounts of cash

I needed 2,031 votes in Vermont, (where Nation was within 3,000 of winning) and 30,812 in New Hampshire (where Hugh beat me).

National results:

PB: 37%
Harry: 36%
Nation: 14%
Hugh: 11%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on March 25, 2005, 10:22:01 PM
Kennedy v. Nixon v. Byrd-1960 Game Scenario

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Kennedy 281 49%
Nixon      230 44%
Byrd          26   6%

I gave Byrd 1,500,000 and put dynamism on.  Byrd got 2nd in AL and VA.


Title: Biggest Choke
Post by: Polkergeist on March 26, 2005, 02:01:39 AM
I was playing the US+British Isles Scenario as Tony Blair against Colin Powell. He just has no stamina.....

2 days before
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Blair 441 53%
Powell 100 41%
?  114  6%

then election night

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Blair 291 50% (won popular vote by 1 million out of 131 million)
Powell 364 49%

This is what happens when you stick to barnstorming


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 26, 2005, 05:29:53 AM
I´m through with the 70ies.




1972: McGovern loses D.C., but wins Mississippi and some other conservative states.

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Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 309

George McGovern
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 229




1976 with a rather 2000ish result (see Popular & Electoral Vote):

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Gerald Ford
Popular Vote: 48%
Electoral Vote: 271

James Carter
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 267


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 26, 2005, 07:34:10 AM
And now the 80ies...




1980: Carter wins a second term by capturing the South and narrowly winning Reagan´s homestate (California results: Carter 42.9%, Reagan 42.8%, Anderson 7.4%, Clark 6.9%).

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James Carter
Popular Vote: 47%
Electoral Vote: 297

Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 45%
Electoral Vote: 241

John Anderson
Popular Vote: 5%
Electoral Vote: 0




1984: Mondale gets humiliated by Reagan... but at least not so bad than in real history.

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Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 405

Walter Mondale
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 133




1988: Dukakis defeats Bush.

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Michael Dukakis
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 276

George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 262




I think I´ll take a break now... ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 26, 2005, 11:04:07 AM
After a President Forever marathon I´m finally through with all elections from 1960 to 2004.




1992: Bascially the same problem I had in 1968. Both major candidates leaked so many scandals that the third party candidate scores big, leading to no electoral majority. Elections was decided by Congress (in favor of Clinton).

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William Clinton
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 256

George H.W. Bush
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 252

Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 19%
Electoral Vote: 30




1996: Clinton landslide.

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Bill Clinton
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 393

Robert Dole
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 145

Ross Perot
Popular Vote: 8%
Electoral Vote: 0




2000: Gore landslide.

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Albert Gore
Popular Vote: 54%
Electoral Vote: 396

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 44%
Electoral Vote: 142




2004: Kerry landslide.

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John Kerry
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 408

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 130

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 4%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 27, 2005, 07:57:09 PM
Yes, I changed running mates just for the heck of it.

You rebel you :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on March 28, 2005, 05:25:49 PM
Here's my results from the 2020 scenario:

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Stephanie Herseth/Michael Garcia-32% 343 EV
J.C. Watts/Melissa Hart-29% 163 EV
Matt Gonzalez/John Eder-19% 25 EV (Washington, Oregon, Vermont and Maine)
Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot-17% 7 EV (Alaska and New Hampshire)

Arizona and Rhode Island should also be >20%.

The two closest states were Florida and North Carolina in which I won both by around 7,000 votes


I played the scenario again using Bob Casey (for some reason I started out 9 points behind in the polls
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Melissa Hart/Adam Putnam-48% 279 EVs
Bob Casey Jr/Barack Obama-51% 259 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:17:38 AM
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I was playing as Edwards/Gephardt.

I won all the debates, and only lost the PV 46-45.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 10:51:59 AM
The resluts of a 2020 race between Governor Jim Nussle of Iowa and Senator Barack Obama with a throw in Michael Badnarik.



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Jim Nussle/George P. Bush: 436

Barack Obama/Chelsea Clinton: 98

Michael Badnarik/Diana Devot: 4


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 10:57:05 AM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 30, 2005, 12:07:04 PM
Am I such a brilliant player or is the 1972 scenario just so easy to win?

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George McGovern
Popular Vote: 52%
Electoral Vote: 323

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 46%
Electoral Vote: 215


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 30, 2005, 12:57:40 PM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 01:54:33 PM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 02:24:38 PM
The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 30, 2005, 03:42:46 PM
Playing as McGovern, lost 240-298

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on March 30, 2005, 06:03:51 PM
Playing as Goldwater (the scenario gave me a lot of money)

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Goldwater--58% 461 EVs
Johnson--41%  75 EVs

For whatever reason, DC wasn't included in this scenario.

My strategy was basically to use my money and bombard the entire nation with ads (all positive, except for my first one, which backfired in one day, but nevertheless hurt Johnson a lot).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on March 30, 2005, 08:57:48 PM
Intresting Result.

George W. Bush vs. John Kerry vs. myself vs. Michael Badnarik with regionalism and dynamism turned off.

Kerry was it with a wave of big scandels, power 5-9, and I did well in debates against Bush, for some reason it had me, a third party candidate debating the President. I changed the how established party to 5 though.

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Bush- 36% PV- 348 EVs
Kerry- 32% PV- 161 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 29 EVs
Badnarik- 1% PV- 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on March 30, 2005, 10:38:05 PM
I played this were every party was on an equal playing field. Each had a 5 in established and each had $100,000,000 in funds to begin with.

The match up was Bush vs. Kerry vs. Myself vs. Badnarik. Same as above in the settings. Huge scandel against Bush in the last week led to a huge rise in both my and Badnarik's vote. A small Kerry scandel in the last two weeks also hurt him.


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Bush- 30% PV- 171 EVs
Kerry- 33% PV- 155 EVs
Wixted- 29% PV- 212 EVs
Badnarik- 6% PV- 0 EVs

Best States:

Bush: Idaho- 55.3%
Kerry- New York- 43.8%
Wixted- Vermont- 40.3%
Badnarik- Nevada- 18.5%

Worst State:

Bush: Rhode Island- 21.9%
Kerry: Idaho- 20.1%
Wixted: Nevada- 16.8%
Badnarik: Maryland- 0.0% (389)

 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 04:52:01 AM
Dean (me) vs. Bush:

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Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on March 31, 2005, 05:07:01 AM
Dean (me) vs. Bush:

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Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.

Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on March 31, 2005, 05:09:23 AM
The 1972 game has a huge flaw, they confused DC with Washington state, so McGovern basically gets an extra 6 EV's.

I noticed this too. It isn´t such a problem when you´re playing with McGovern and both states/districts are yours in the end.

Of course, your EV number is messed up when you lose D.C., er, I mean Washington.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 05:41:05 AM
Let me get this one straight. Howard Dean loses his solidly Democratic state of birth while landslide Missouri and winning Indiana?

Yep, pretty much.

Wasn't even close, either; Bush got 58.5% in New York and 56 something in Illinois.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 05:56:47 AM
Longley (myself) vs. Bush (vs. Nader vs. Badnarik):

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Longley: 430 EVs (56% PV)
Bush: 108 EVs (37% PV)

Best states:

Longley: Massachussetts (70.9%)
Bush: Louisiana (59.0%)
Nader: Vermont (19.4%)
Badnarik: North Dakota (6.0%)

Worst states:

Longley: Alaska (28.5%)
Bush: Rhode Island (22.6%)
Nader: Georgia (1.0%)
Badnarik: New Jersey (0.0%)

Top three closest states:

1. Colorado (Longley wins, 47.4-47.3)
2. Maryland (Longley wins, 49.3-48.5)
3. Utah (Bush wins, 47.6-45.2)


Yeah, uh, I think my strategy kinda worked. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: FerrisBueller86 on March 31, 2005, 09:10:02 AM
Why do these simulations give such strange results that we haven't seen in real life (except maybe for 1976)?  If a few political junkies can do so well in unexpected places, why can't real presidential campaigns do so?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 09:51:09 AM
How the hell can the same candidate get 49% in Maryland and 45% in Utah?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 10:57:03 AM
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.

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I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on March 31, 2005, 11:17:31 AM
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.

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I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.

The most unrealistic scenarios, in my mind, are the downloaded ones. Personally it seems that the scenarios that came with the game always give semi-accurate results while the scenarios made by random people are usually much further off. Could be because they over-estimated one candidate, or just didn't adjust everything to co-ordinate with the new scenario, or they just don't know much about election history.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 12:24:07 PM
Playing as Dukakis, lost 317-221. PV 49-47 Bush. Actually very close to winning, if IL, OH, and MD switch.

I'm getting doubts about PF being realistic.

The most unrealistic scenarios, in my mind, are the downloaded ones. Personally it seems that the scenarios that came with the game always give semi-accurate results while the scenarios made by random people are usually much further off. Could be because they over-estimated one candidate, or just didn't adjust everything to co-ordinate with the new scenario, or they just don't know much about election history.

Are there any that come with the game aside from 60, 80, 92, and 04? Maybe I have an outdated version.

It's not that bad outside of Texas and Louisiana, and the only reason I won Louisiana was that Duke got 6 percent there, which enabled me to sneak by by 1.5. I also focused a lot on Texas, but against a Texan, I shouldn't have won it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Keystone Phil on March 31, 2005, 01:34:11 PM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 01:35:37 PM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 02:42:40 PM
I WON!

Playing as Al Gore, I beat George W. Bush 295-243. I won the PV 48-43, Nader got 7.

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Best State:
Gore: New Jersey, 59.2
Bush: Idaho, 63.7
Nader: Vermont, 28.9
Browne: Montana, 3.6

Close:
West Virginia, .1
Minnesota, 0.6
Nevada, 1.3

Actually realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 05:46:28 PM
How the hell can the same candidate get 49% in Maryland and 45% in Utah?

Got me.  Maybe the gigantic scandal I launched on Bush a week and a half before the election was that he hated Mormons or something.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 31, 2005, 06:12:49 PM
WHEE! :)

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1.  I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

Here's how it turned out:

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PV (B-K-N): 44% (55,847,756)- 44% (55,532,221)- 11% (14,011,201)
EV (B-K-N): 249-289-0

THE swing state: Texas.  Final tally: Kerry: 35.9%, Bush: 34.3%, Nader: 29.6%.

Kerry % map:
() (http://www.imageshack.us)

Bush % map:
() (http://www.imageshack.us)

Nader % map:
() (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best states:
Kerry: Michigan, 66.6%
Bush: Idaho & North Dakota, 74.2%
Nader: Texas, 29.6% (he also got, 29.4% and 2nd place in Alabama)

Worst states:
Kerry: Utah, 19.3%
Bush: New Hampshire, 27.9%
Nader: Missouri, .5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2005, 06:48:16 PM

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1.  I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

I remember one time I was playing the 1932 scenario as Hoover.  About a week and a half before the election, it was neck-and-neck.  I thought to look at my platform and was like "wtf this platform sucks" so I completely changed it without thinking about what would happen and subsequently lost all but two states. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 31, 2005, 08:34:13 PM

Made a new scenario, starting on August 1. I was Badnarik, switched all positions to Right on first day, to left on last.

I remember one time I was playing the 1932 scenario as Hoover. About a week and a half before the election, it was neck-and-neck. I thought to look at my platform and was like "wtf this platform sucks" so I completely changed it without thinking about what would happen and subsequently lost all but two states. :D

LOL ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on March 31, 2005, 08:58:15 PM
Playing as Mondale.

392-146 Reagan wins, he won the PV 55-44.

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Question, which is more important to winning a debate, issue knowledge or debate skill?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2005, 12:15:58 AM
Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot (me):

My entire campaign was based around sabotaging Bush's campaign.  I did absolutely no personal campaigning whatsoever and made every single one of my speeches and ads into attacks on Bush.  All of my scandal research was against Bush.

The results:

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Clinton: 417 EVs (46% PV)
Bush: 64 EVs (28% PV)
Perot: 57 EVs (24% PV)

Best states:

Clinton: Arkansas (63.6%)
Bush: Oklahoma (44.3%)
Perot: Utah (56.4%)

Worst states:

Clinton: Utah (21.2%)
Bush: Massachussetts (14.1%)
Perot: Louisiana (11.7%)

Top three closest states:

1. North Dakota (Bush wins over Perot, 34.1-33.6)
2. New Mexico (Bush wins over Clinton, 37.4-36.8)
3. Virginia (Clinton wins over Bush, 38.5-37.2)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2005, 01:13:16 AM
The 1984 scenario is officially screwed up, as I was hit by a power 9 scandal in the last week of the campaign and lost every single state except for Minnesota, New York, and... uh...

...

Texas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 01, 2005, 10:17:24 AM
The 1984 scenario is officially screwed up, as I was hit by a power 9 scandal in the last week of the campaign and lost every single state except for Minnesota, New York, and... uh...

...

Texas.

I won Texas playing as Dukakis against Bush I, it's not that odd, for President Forever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 01, 2005, 12:42:10 PM
1992 Bush v. Clinton v. Perot v. Marrou (me)
 
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Bush     33% 252
Clinton  38% 261
Perot     22%  19
Marrou   4%      3

Montana was 35.4% Marrou, 25.5% Perot, 23.5% Clinton

I came within 6 in Alaska and 7 in North Dakota and if Imageshack will start working, I'll post the screenshot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 01, 2005, 01:01:21 PM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?

There are many fiscally conservative members of the House and Senate that stand up to it. Pat Toomey based a good amount of his Senate campaign against Specter on the pork issue.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 01, 2005, 01:02:55 PM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?

There are many fiscally conservative members of the House and Senate that stand up to it. Pat Toomey based a good amount of his Senate campaign against Specter on the pork issue.

Did Santorum?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Keystone Phil on April 01, 2005, 05:04:06 PM
Ha, Nussle won't win Maryland  :)

PB, is Nussle the guy who got millions of dollars for an indoor rainforest?

That's Jim Leach. He is crazy sometimes.

He's a republican though, right?

He's a RINO. A lot of politicos in PA will remember the indoor rainforest from a Pat Toomey for Senate ad, listing all the pork that Specter didn't stand up against. My favorite was the fruit fly research in France.

Did anyone stand up against it?

There are many fiscally conservative members of the House and Senate that stand up to it. Pat Toomey based a good amount of his Senate campaign against Specter on the pork issue.

Did Santorum?

Take stands against wasteful spending? I'm sure he did a lot more than Specter. I'm not going to have this turn into an argument about who stands up to pork. I just pointed out a reason why he's a RINO and someone who stood up to it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 01, 2005, 05:33:21 PM
2004 Bush v. Kerry

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Kerry collapses under a weight of ads and scandals.  DC was decided by a thousand votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 01, 2005, 06:49:56 PM
What the hell, as Dean again I hit Bush with a power 9 scandal a week before the election and won Oklahoma, Indiana, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Tennessee because of it, but I CANNOT WIN NEW YORK

WHY CAN I NOT WIN NEW YORK

I LOST THE ELECTION BECAUSE I DID NOT WIN NEW YORK

AAAAAARG

PS: I just noticed something else: I somehow won the PV 54-45, yet lost in the electoral college 253-285.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 02, 2005, 02:07:14 PM
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Lost 312-226, playing as Gore/Landreu vs. McCain/Ridge, 2000.

Lost PV 49-40-7. The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 02, 2005, 03:11:20 PM
Here's 1912...I played as TR.  Coming into the home stretch, it looked as if I'd win the popular vote but it would be very close to whether I received enough EVs...however, Wilson was hit with 2 major scandals and Taft with 1, plus on the last day of the campaign, I ran 4 ads in all50 states, which threw states I wasn't even competitive in (mostly in the South) into my column:

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Roosevelt-42% 399 EV
Wilson-19%  86 EV
Debs-18% 26 EV
Taft-20% 20 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 03, 2005, 05:11:39 AM
Kucinich/Dean vs. Bush/Cheney :D

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Kucinich
Popular Vote: 50%
Electoral Vote: 371

Bush
Popular Vote: 43%
Electoral Vote: 167


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 03, 2005, 05:23:54 AM
Mondale (me) vs. Reagan:

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Mondale: 294 EVs (49% PV)
Reagan: 244 EVs (50% PV)

Best states:

Mondale: Illinois (58.3%)
Reagan: Wisconsin (66.0%)

Worst states:

Mondale: Wisconsin (34.0%)
Reagan: Illinois (41.6%)

Closest states:

1. North Dakota (Mondale wins 50.02-49.98 - 135 votes!)
2. Pennsylvania (Mondale wins 50.1-49.8)
3. Texas (Mondale wins 50.2-49.7)


Reagan was leading in the electoral college 535-3 a week before the election, but he collapsed just enough under a power 3 scandal that I spun over and over and over again and under 3 ads running in all 50 states for the last 4 days that Mondale was able to eke out razor-thin victories in enough states to win the election.

I can now die a happy man now that I've finally won as Mondale. :)

Notable facts:

1. I managed to win while losing the home states of both Mondale and Ferraro - of course, I did compensate by winning the home state of Bush!

2. I lost the PV while winning the EV by a greater margin than Bush did in 2000.

3. I had a momentum of +993 (!) on the last day of the election.

4. One of my strategies that I may try again in light of this success was to grit my teeth and endure the loss of my base by completely changing my platform at the start of the campaign to make every single one of my stances rated as +1.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 03, 2005, 06:18:47 AM
Okay, Howard Dean again.

I hit Bush with a power 12 scandal that got augmented to power 14 a week before the election and it sat there at that level the entire time.  Meanwhile, I ran four power 5 ads for four days before the election.

I lost in the electoral college by nearly 200 electoral votes.

I have come to the conclusion that winning as Howard Dean against George W. Bush is physically impossible.

BUT I WON NEW YORK THIS TIME SO THE JOKE IS ON BUSH


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 03, 2005, 08:37:42 AM
I've won with Dean. Big, even. There is probably something wrng with your strategy, I don't reacall it was even that hard to win with Dean. Power 5 isn't that good, you should have at least one power 6 ad. ;)

To answer someone's question, debate skill is more important than issue knowledge for winning the debate, but issue knowledge matters for how much of a boost you get. Also, I think being above 50 in EP matters more than you'd think.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 03, 2005, 06:07:56 PM
I've won with Dean. Big, even. There is probably something wrng with your strategy, I don't reacall it was even that hard to win with Dean. Power 5 isn't that good, you should have at least one power 6 ad. ;)

Fine, be that way. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 03, 2005, 06:14:20 PM
A scandal on Gore got to 22 at one point, and that's why McCain won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on April 03, 2005, 09:08:25 PM
I just won a tight game playing as myself vs. Colin Wixted. The swing states were California, Arizona, Hawaii, Wisconsin and Cnnecticut, but all the fopcus was on CA and TX. In the end, we each won one of them-I got CA and he got TX. I also got AZ and WI, but he got HI and CT. Either way, I won with something like 290 :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 04, 2005, 12:34:58 PM
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Dean/Gephardt v Bush/Cheney v Nader v Badnarik

PV: Dean-Bush-Nader-Badnarik was 50-42-5-1

EV: Dean wins 297-241.

Best states:

Bush: Idaho 62.9%
Dean: Illinois 61.2%
Nader: Alaska 13.4%
Badnarik: California: 6.9%

Worse states:
Bush: Hawaii 30.6%
Dean: Alaska 28.6%
Nader: Missouri 1.2%
Badnarik: Mississippi 0% (23 votes)

Closest states:
Florida, where Bush won by 1.2%, 48.3% v 47.1% with Nader getting the rest.

This was an interesting election. I only got one power 5 ad throughout the entire campaign, hit Bush with two medium scandals (power 6) whereas I got hit by a power 9 scandal. I also started out about 150 EVs behind. But I managed to win despite this, somehow. I didn't take the lead until 1 day before the election. I have to admit Gabu that it was harder playing Dean than I remembered, he started out 3% behind and it became as bad as 5% before I turned it around.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 04, 2005, 03:27:11 PM
Oh, all right, I'll try Dean again. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on April 04, 2005, 03:29:04 PM
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My best result so far as Perot.  Rather slapdash effort on my part throughout, especially as I grew convinced I wasn't getting anywhere.

As usual, of course, I surged in the last weekend and in the last two days before the election, gaining PA and WA.

CA and UT were complete suprises, as I thought Clinton and Bush had them in the bag, respectively--of course, I only won California by 65,000 votes.

Beat Bush in the EV count due to CA and TX, and got a good 24% of the PV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 05, 2005, 03:59:51 AM
The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 05, 2005, 03:40:54 PM
The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.

I'm under the impression 80soft Software is ran by Greens. Otherwise they would never let California vote for Cart in 1980. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 05, 2005, 03:51:24 PM
Man, dynamism produces weird results:

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This is myself playing as Al Sharpton/Dick Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney

Sharpton--55%  337 EV
Bush--44% 201 EV

Closest States
Iowa--Sharpton wins by about 1,700 votes
New Mexico--Sharpton wins by about 2,700 votes
Wyoming-Bush wins by about 2,700 votes

Best Bush states
North Dakota--66.1%
Connecticut--60.4%
Florida--58.3%
Ohio--58.1%
Wisconsin--57.2%

Best Sharpton states
DC--88.8%
New Jersey-71.7%
Illinois--71.3%
Rhode Island--67.7%
New York-65.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 05, 2005, 04:58:20 PM
The 2000 scenerio makes Nader way too strong.

The 2004 scenario makes Nader way too strong.

I'm under the impression 80soft Software is ran by Greens. Otherwise they would never let California vote for Cart in 1980. :)

Screw that, I won Montana, the Dakotas, and Texas as Mondale. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 05, 2005, 05:41:18 PM
I WIN

Dean (me) vs. Bush:

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Dean: 274 EVs (54% PV)
Bush: 264 EVs (45% PV)

Best states - Dean:

1. Massachussetts (70.6%)
2. New York (69.4%)
3. Maine (66.4%)

Best states - Bush:

1. Idaho (64.4%)
2. Alabama (59.5%)
3. Utah (59.2%)

Closest states:

1. Oklahoma (Bush wins 50.23-49.77)
2. North Dakota (Bush wins 50.24-49.76)
3. Mississippi (Dean wins 50.4-49.5)

Closest election I've had yet.  The only states I could have lost and still won the election were Delaware, Vermont, Rhode Island, or Maine.

PS: No, I don't know how I won the Carolinas and Mississippi while losing Minnesota and Pennsylvania. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 05, 2005, 07:26:26 PM
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My best result so far as Perot.  Rather slapdash effort on my part throughout, especially as I grew convinced I wasn't getting anywhere.

As usual, of course, I surged in the last weekend and in the last two days before the election, gaining PA and WA.

CA and UT were complete suprises, as I thought Clinton and Bush had them in the bag, respectively--of course, I only won California by 65,000 votes.

Beat Bush in the EV count due to CA and TX, and got a good 24% of the PV.

That's nothing compared to a result I got [I don't know when]!

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 06, 2005, 02:53:06 PM
Gotta Love Dynamism: Bush/Cheney vs. Kerry/Edwards vs. Wixted/McCain

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Bush- 31% PV- 131 EVs
Kerry- 32% PV- 87 EVs
Wixted- 35% PV- 320 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 57.2%
Kerry: Oklahoma 52.4%
Wixted: Delaware 48.0%

Worst State (Not Including DC):

Bush: Maryland 21.8%
Kerry: Alaska 17.0%
Wixted: Virginia 14.8%

Closest States:

New Mexico (37.3% Bush-25.1% Kerry-37.4% Wixted) Wixted Win By 1,268 Votes
Connecticut (22.3% Bush-38.9 Kerry-38.7% Wixted) Kerry Win By 3,323 Votes
Georgia (37.7% Bush-24.0% Kerry-38.1% Wixted) Wixted Win By 13,376 Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 06, 2005, 02:54:02 PM
Verin how did you make those great maps? Is their a program that you use or is it just paint?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 06, 2005, 02:55:42 PM
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Argh! Came very close to winning CA with Perot.

PV was Bush 33% Clinton 34% and Perot 31%

I'm gonna keep trying...I think it's possible to win with Perot, if you have a little luck.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 06, 2005, 04:49:19 PM
Verin how did you make those great maps? Is their a program that you use or is it just paint?

Just paint and the Atlas key :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 06, 2005, 05:21:02 PM
THE REVENGE OF THE THIRD PARTIES! :D

Just for fun, I ripped off Colin's idea and made myself an independent in 2004 and gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Bush vs. Kerry vs. Longley vs. Badnarik:

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Bush: 243 EVs (32% PV)
Kerry: 162 EVs (30% PV)
Longley: 130 EVs (27% PV)
Badnarik: 3 EVs (9% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Washington (42.5%)
Bush: Vermont (49.3%) (?!??!!?)
Longley: Nebraska (49.3%)
Badnarik: South Dakota (29.4%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Utah (16.4%)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.3%)
Longley: Missouri (15.9%)
Badnarik: New Mexico (0.0% - 343 votes)

Closest states:

1. South Dakota (Badnarik wins over Bush, 29.4-29.3)
2. Ohio (Bush wins over Longley, 28.5-28.2)
3. Colorado (Longley wins over Bush, 34.5-32.2)

After a gigantic scandal on Kerry about three and a half weeks before the election, Bush was well in the lead and Badnarik and I were hardly even on the radar.  At first it looked like he would go towards near-landslide victory, but then, well...

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I surged with a momentum of roughly +700 to take tons of states away from Bush and throw other states to Kerry, and, as a result, throw the election to the House.

Badnarik got up just enough momentum to take South Dakota, as well, a feat that I'm sure will make John Dibble proud of him. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 06, 2005, 06:35:08 PM
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Phew! This one was close...:

Bush: 36 963 395 (33%) 185 EVs
Clinton: 36 812 267 (33%) 127 EVs
Perot: 35 816 774 (33%) 226 EVs

Best states:
Bush: Georgia, 52.9%
Clinton: Arkansas, 51.7%
Perot: Wyoming 64.6%

Worse states:
Bush: Vermont, 14.1%
Clinton: Utah, 11%
Perot: Alabama, 9.2%

Closest states:
Florida, Bush-Perot-Clinton 34.4%-33.3%-32.2%
California: Perot-Clinton 37.6%-36.8%
Colorado: Clinton-Bush 36.7%-35.9%

New York, Illinois and Iowa were also very close.

If I hadn't spent all my money in the first two weeks I might have won this one. :( Still, I'm very pleased. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 06, 2005, 07:19:47 PM
Who won in the house Gustaf?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 06, 2005, 07:23:01 PM
Party by Party Results for my last race.

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I did worst in the Interior West, parts of the South, parts of the Mid-Atlantic, and parts of the Midwest. The Republican did worst in the Pacific West, Upper Midwest, Upper South, Florida and the Northeast. The Democrat worst areas were the West, the South and the Upper Northeast.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 06, 2005, 07:56:07 PM
SamSpade/Ebowed (me): 280
Andrew/John Ford: 258

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It was a real nailbiter, only winning California 50.5-49.4, Colorado 50.5-49.4, Missouri 50.4-49.5, and I lost the PV 50-49. I got a late scandal on Andrew, that was what put me over the top.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 08, 2005, 08:42:06 AM

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik?  (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 08, 2005, 12:41:20 PM

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik?  (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario.  I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 08, 2005, 07:44:10 PM

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik? (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario. I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Badnarik isn't in the 2004 scenario in my game :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 08, 2005, 07:45:21 PM
What happens when Kerry runs against a perfect (all-around 5) extreme leftist candidate, using my super-long campaign scenario:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 08, 2005, 09:39:37 PM

What do you have as the attributes of Badnarik? (Leadership, Charisma, Stamina etc.)

Whatever they were originally set as in the 2004 scenario. I didn't change the candidates themselves at all, I just gave everyone $100,000,000 and a party establishment of 5.

Badnarik isn't in the 2004 scenario in my game :P

Er, I haven't a clue what game you're playing in that case. :P  Badnarik came with the 2004 scenario I have...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on April 08, 2005, 09:47:31 PM
I think there was an update with him in it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 08, 2005, 10:32:33 PM
Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon:

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Kennedy: 438 EVs (55% PV)
Nixon: 99 EVs (41% PV)

Best states:

Kennedy: Rhode Island (79.8%)
Nixon: Tennessee (55.0%)

Worst states:

Kennedy: Tennessee (42.5%)
Nixon: Louisiana (16.3%)

Closest states:

1. Ohio (Kennedy wins, 49.4-49.3)
2. Indiana (Nixon wins, 49.4-48.7)
3. Idaho (Kennedy wins, 47.8-46.6)

I think that this is what you call the Big Mo':

2 days to go:

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1 day to go:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 09, 2005, 01:44:37 AM
Kerry (me) vs. Bush vs. Nader vs. Badnarik:

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Kerry: 468 EVs (47% PV)
Bush: 70 EVs (33% PV)
Nader: 0 EVs (4% PV)
Badnarik: 0 EVs (13% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Rhode Island (74.7%)
Bush: Idaho (51.2%)
Nader: Alaska (13.6%)
Badnarik: Nevada (31.9%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Alaska (25.9%)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.0%)
Nader: Idaho (0.2%)
Badnarik: Rhode Island (0.2%)

Closest states:

1. Utah (Bush wins over Kerry, 47.2-46.2)
2. Georgia (Kerry wins over Bush, 48.9-47.6)
3. Iowa (Kerry wins over Bush, 38.4-36.8 )

Now that's what I call a landslide - Kerry had won the election by 9:00 PM! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 09, 2005, 04:05:45 AM
Being very bored, I decided to run myself against opebo, Mike Naso, and John Dibble, and given both myself and Dibble $2 billion and Naso and opebo $0 to see what would happen.  Basically, my strategy was to do absolutely nothing but spin news, run two ads at a time in all 50 states for the entire duration of the campaign, and research scandals on Naso and opebo.  Party establishment of Dibble and I were 1; the others were 5.

The result:

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Longley: 521 EVs (43% PV)
Dibble: 11 EVs (14% PV)
Naso: 3 EVs (22% PV)
opebo: 3 EVs (19% PV)

Best states:

Longley: Montana (55.8%)
Dibble: Indiana (33.9%)
Naso: Alaska (46.3%)
opebo: New York (40.2%)

NOTE: I don't usually mention DC because it's horribly boring, but it should be noted that opebo won DC with only 56.4%.

Worst states:

Longley: Indiana (28.8%)
Dibble: California (1.9%)
Naso: Rhode Island (7.1%)
opebo: Wyoming (0.0% - 6 votes!!!!!!!!)

Closest states:

1. Alaska (Naso wins over Longley, 46.3-44.7)
2. Indiana (Dibble wins over Naso, 33.9-31.2)
3. Oklahoma (Longley wins over Dibble, 34.2-30.7)

Just for fun, here's a screenshot of the absolutely hilarious Wyoming result:

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and a very similar Utah result:

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and just for kicks, here's the PV bar with the pictures I used for each character. :)

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 09, 2005, 01:42:19 PM
I gave Perot a try...

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Clinton got socked with 3-4 scandals, while Bush and I were ok scandal-wise.  Clinton won one debate, another was a tie, and I (Perot) triumphed in third debate.

Bush--36% 246 EV
Clinton--27% 83 EV
Perot--33% 209 EV
Marrou--2% 0 EV

Best states
Bush--North Carolina 59.3%
Clinton--DC 53.5%/Rhode Island 48.3%
Perot--Oregon 53.6%

Closest states:
Colorado-Perot 39.2%/Bush 38.9%
Montana-Clinton 40.7%/Perot 39.4%
New York-Bush 37.6%/Clinton 36.8%
Michigan--Clinton 35.6%/Perot 34.1%/Bush 30.2%

Despite his poor performance, the House picked Bill Clinton for President.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on April 09, 2005, 07:09:43 PM
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This is my best all time result. I won several times as Perot, Nader, Anderson, etc. The best result in PM Forever, however, I won as Layton with 180 seats and I won my D.C. Council scenario with Ralph Nader once.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on April 09, 2005, 10:16:26 PM
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1980 Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson

Carter 51% (51,308,126 votes) 343 EVs
Reagan 41% (42,024,861 votes) 195 EVs
Anderson 7% (7,098,525 votes) 0 EVs

Closest States

Carter

New Mexico by 0.1% (297 votes)
Wisconsin by 0.8%
Maryland by 0.8%
California by 0.8%
Kansas by 1.8%

Reagan closest states

Pennsylvania by 1.8%
New Jersey by 3%


Best states

Carter-Alabama (74.9%)
Reagan-Idaho (66.9%)
Anderson-Arizona (25.1%)

It was a good game, overall. We each had a major scandal but I pressed ard on soviet aggression and inflation, and got there in the end.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 10, 2005, 07:04:07 AM
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My 3rd attempt with Perot...this one went badly, I chrushed Bush in the beginning but Clinton managed to capitalize on it despite being hit with several scandals.

I beat Bush in the electoral college, at least. :)

Oh, and Jake, the house always picks Clinton in the 1992 scenario, I think. Just like they always pick Bush in the 2004 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 10, 2005, 10:12:03 AM
YAY!

1976: Carter landslide. Ford got hit by two scandals a week before the election (one of them had a power of 10 or 11, if I recall correctly) and I spun them as long as I could.

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Carter
Popular Vote: 56%
Electoral Vote: 434

Ford
Popular Vote: 38%
Electoral Vote: 104

McCarthy
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 10, 2005, 10:50:29 AM
And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

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Reagan
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 294

Mondale
Popular Vote: 47%
Electoral Vote: 244


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on April 10, 2005, 10:58:30 AM
Dean (me) vs. Bush:

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Bush: 283 EVs (50% PV)
Dean: 255 EVs (49% PV)

Weirdest #%^(ing map I ever saw.  I won Florida and Indiana while losing Illinois and New York.  I was also within 5 points of winning Kansas.

did you have dynamism on?

It's not that hard to alter scenarios you know, fixing 1972 shouldn't be too hard.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 10, 2005, 04:07:02 PM
And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

Here's what my strategy was to win as Mondale:

1. Fix your horrible platform.  Change absolutely everything to "centrist".  You have such a tiny base that it hardly impacts anything to do so.

2. Immediately start researching a scandal on Reagan on whatever the people care most about.  If you're successful with a reasonable amount of time left in the campaign, do it again on another topic.  You must have at least one power 9 scandal against Reagan by the last week of the campaign.

3. Immediately start making ad after ad, deleting your weakest ads when you've accumulated four, until you have four ads of at least power 5.

4. Put as much effort as you can into getting endorsements from places that give you issue momentum.  Don't let a single one of them endorse Reagan.

5. Once all of this is done, spend the entire time giving policy speeches and barnstorming while keeping your issue knowledge/debating skills level.  Don't bother trying to win the debate against Reagan; just spin it down when he wins.  Put as much spin as you can spare on any and every news event that comes up that has a power level of 3 or more.

6. Two weeks before the election, leak your lower-power scandal if you have one and spin it with a 100% success rate for all it's worth until a week before the election or until it dies.  Stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the scandal.

7. One week before the election, leak your power 9 scandal and spin, spin, spin, spin with a 100% success rate.  Again, stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the power 9 scandal.  It's extremely important that the scandal stay with a high power and at the top of the headlines for the entire remaining duration of the campaign.

8. Three days before the election, set up your four ads to run in all 50 states.

9. Pray to God for mercy on election night. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 10, 2005, 07:46:44 PM

You won Texas, Montana, the Dakota, but you lost Minnesota. ???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 10, 2005, 07:49:08 PM

You won Texas, Montana, the Dakota, but you lost Minnesota. ???

Dynamism does some strange things.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on April 10, 2005, 08:41:00 PM
Just played a good 1860 game.   I was Bell and did worse than historically.  Some minor scandals throughout on every candidate but me, Lincoln won the debates.  I was close in a number of states througout (NC, TN, MD, LA, GA) but ended up with only two (KY and VI).  No one recived a mjority, so Congrees picked Douglas.

Since I don't know how to get a map up of the election, I just post some stats.

Lincoln- 28%, 64 electoral votes
Douglas- 27%, 97 electoral votes
Breckenridge- 26%, 115 electoral votes
Bell 17%, 27 electoral votes

Changes for History

Lincoln loses Oregon, California, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Pennsylvania.

Douglas gains Oregon, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan, New York, Rhode Island, and New Hampshire.

Breckenridge gains Tennessee, Pennsylvania, and California

Bell loses Tennessee.

Best States:
Lincoln: Vermont, 74.1%
Douglas: Michigan, 52.4%
Breckenridge: Texas, 75.4%
Bell: Virginia, 47.9%

Worst States:
Lincoln: Florida, 0% (20)
Douglas: Texas, 0.1%
Breckenridge: Illinois, 0.5%
Bell: Illinois 0% (231)

Closest States:
Oregon: Douglas voer Breckenridge 42.0 to 41.8
Maine: Lincoln over Douglas 45.2 to 44.6
New Jersey: Douglas over Lincoln 49.6 to 48.5


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 10, 2005, 10:49:57 PM
Since I don't know how to get a map up of the election, I just post some stats.

Given that the EV Calculator feature only goes back to 1896, the easiest way would probably be to save a copy of the map on this page (https://uselectionatlas.org/USPRESIDENT/GENERAL/pe1860.html) to your hard drive and then use MS Paint to repaint the states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on April 11, 2005, 06:28:29 PM
Playing as Mondale

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451-87

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313-225, giving me an extra 5%. Was pretty close toward the end, lost PV 53-46.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 12, 2005, 06:04:24 AM
And I still need to find a way to win the 1984 election as Mondale. At least I came close this time...

Here's what my strategy was to win as Mondale:

1. Fix your horrible platform.  Change absolutely everything to "centrist".  You have such a tiny base that it hardly impacts anything to do so.

2. Immediately start researching a scandal on Reagan on whatever the people care most about.  If you're successful with a reasonable amount of time left in the campaign, do it again on another topic.  You must have at least one power 9 scandal against Reagan by the last week of the campaign.

3. Immediately start making ad after ad, deleting your weakest ads when you've accumulated four, until you have four ads of at least power 5.

4. Put as much effort as you can into getting endorsements from places that give you issue momentum.  Don't let a single one of them endorse Reagan.

5. Once all of this is done, spend the entire time giving policy speeches and barnstorming while keeping your issue knowledge/debating skills level.  Don't bother trying to win the debate against Reagan; just spin it down when he wins.  Put as much spin as you can spare on any and every news event that comes up that has a power level of 3 or more.

6. Two weeks before the election, leak your lower-power scandal if you have one and spin it with a 100% success rate for all it's worth until a week before the election or until it dies.  Stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the scandal.

7. One week before the election, leak your power 9 scandal and spin, spin, spin, spin with a 100% success rate.  Again, stop whatever you're doing and just focus on spinning the power 9 scandal.  It's extremely important that the scandal stay with a high power and at the top of the headlines for the entire remaining duration of the campaign.

8. Three days before the election, set up your four ads to run in all 50 states.

9. Pray to God for mercy on election night. :)

Okay, thanks. Perhaps I will try it... as soon as I have the time for it. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 12, 2005, 12:17:57 PM
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Almost managed to get Clinton in the end this time, but somehow the scandal on him just wouldn't stick. :(

Bush: 29%, 143 EVs
Clinton: 38%, 244 EVs
Perot: 31%, 151 EVs

I came very close in several states, especially Alaska, Oregon, Kansas and Missouri. Clinton's win in Kansas was due to the fact that I demolished Bush there with negative campaigning (27.5% in Kansas for a Republican...ouch).

Once again, Vermont was Bush's weakest state giving him an abysmal 14.7%. In DC Bush got only 5.7%. For Clinton it was South Dakota, 16.7%. My worse was Alabama where I got 12%. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 12, 2005, 01:43:53 PM
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Hehe...I got bored and decided to play with dynamism on. Had forgot how easy that makes it...I had a constant of 13% until it was like 2 weeks left (I had too little support to participate in the first two debates). I then surged 8 points to 21%, won the third debate. Clinton had been hit with scandals previously and was pretty much out at this stage, Bush was the leading candidate. I got a power 9 scandal on him, another power 9 scandal came along on him. These two got spun for the rest of the campaign, lowering his momentum to about -400 with Clinton at -100 and me at about +75. In the last poll I had gained 8% and 216 EVs getting me to 31% and 256 EVs. On election day it was a blow-out. Clinton and Bush both lost about 50 EVs each from the day before the election to election day.

Perot: 44%, 370 EVs
Clinton: 29%, 107 EVs
Bush: 26%, 61 EVs

Best states:
Perot: Washington, 67.3%
Clinton: Arkansas, 64.5% (this is the only time it's not DC!)
Bush: Louisiana, 50.7%

Worse states:
Perot: Arkansas, 14.7%
Clinton: Utah, 11.1%
Bush: Massachusetts, 12.7% (DC, 4.6%)

Closest states:
Iowa: CLinton beats Perot 39%-36.8%
Virginia: Bush beats Perot 42.8%-40.6%

I'd like to have it noted that I lost DC to Clinton 41.8%-53.4%, which I consider to be very good. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 12, 2005, 04:17:22 PM
Quiz: What election and what kind of scenario is this supposed to be? ;)
Hint: A rather exotic one. :D


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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on April 13, 2005, 08:17:24 PM
I tried to see how much of a blowout against Mondale I could get as Reagan:

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Electoral Vote
Reagan: 538
Mondale: 0

Popular Vote
Reagan: 86% (85,970,677)
Mondale: 13% (13,735,135)

Best States
Reagan - Utah
Reagan:  100.0% (642,728)
Mondale:  0.0% (1) !!!

Mondale - Washington, D.C.
Reagan:  61.9% (173,790)
Mondale:  38.0%  !!! (106,716)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 13, 2005, 09:06:47 PM
In my 1996 Scenario "The Contract With America" (I have yet to submit it to P4E) I ran Stormin' Norman Schwarzkoph against President Clinton and threw Perot in as a funny factor. I did quite well playing as H. Ross:

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Norman Schwarzkoph/Arlen Specter: 266 Electoral Votes; 40% of the popular vote

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 251 Electoral Votes; 41% of the popular vote

H. Ross Perot/Pat Choate: 21 Electoral Votes; 16% of the popular vote

Harry Browne/Jo Jorgensen: 0 Electoral Votes; 0% of the popular vote (over a million popular votes though)

The Republican Dominated House elected Stormin' Norman.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on April 15, 2005, 11:39:27 AM
Ford v. Carter 1976

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Gerald Ford/ Bod Dole: 313 EV   52% PV

Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 225 EV  47% PV

Interesting race.  I was Ford.  Started out barely ahead, then I slumped quite a bit near the mid point (at one point I was down 5% in the polls and had only about 220 EV's) then started to gain momentum again by consentrating on the states where Carter was way ahead but there were a number of undecideds (Alabama, Maryland, California and New York were the big ones).  Came back to win by a sizable margin, but it really could have went either way in the final week.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on April 20, 2005, 11:06:27 PM
Man, dynamism makes it too easy, myself (McGovern) vs. Nixon

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I ran a good (power 5 or 6) ad against Nixon in the beginning, followed up with ads of my own.  We tied one debate and Nixon won the other.  With a week to go, Nixon got hit with two major scandals and I got hit with one, but mine was spun down quickly.

McGovern/Schriver--61% 455 EV
Nixon/Agnew--38% 83 EV

Best McGovern states:
D.C.:  86.0%
Rhode Island:  81.5%
North Carolina (!):  80.6%
Washington:  79.0%
Ohio:   78.4%

Best Nixon states:
Idaho:  60.2%
New York:  56.7%
Alaska:  55.5%
Arkansas:  54.4%
North Dakota:  52.9%

Closest State:
Delaware:  McGovern wins 50.0-49.9  (131346 to 131124)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 22, 2005, 11:01:45 AM
I actually succeeded in winning a electoral majority in 1992.


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Clinton
Popular Vote: 42%
Electoral Vote: 286

Bush
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 237

Perot
Popular Vote: 19%
Electoral Vote: 15


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2005, 11:57:23 AM
Re: Mondale:

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Reagan v Mondale

PV was Mondale 54-45, EV 375-163

Best states:
Mondale:
Rhode Island: 69.8%
New York: 66.7%
New Mexico: 66.1%
Minnesota: 64.2%
Oregon: 63.2%
New Jersey: 62%
Virginia: 61.5%
Massachusetts: 60.5%

Reagan:
Alaska: 61.6%
Utah: 61.3%
Idaho: 59.8%

Worse states:
The converse...this was a two-man race.

Closest states:
Michigan, Reagan by 0.3% (12 309 votes)
Wyoming, Mondale by 1.5% (3 208 votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2005, 11:58:23 AM
Mondale-Reagan was easier than I had anticipated...Reagan led throughout the campaign but I swung it to myself in the end. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 05:05:57 AM
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Running myself with leadership 2, charisma 3 and the rest 4s against Bush. PV I won 54-41, EV 427-111.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on April 27, 2005, 06:16:30 AM
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Running myself with leadership 2, charisma 3 and the rest 4s against Bush. PV I won 54-41, EV 427-111.

could you run me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 11:05:36 AM
Ok, who do you wanna run against what are your stats and so on?

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Sooner or later I will win as Perot. :P

Without dynamism it's pretty hard though...PV was Clinton-Bush-Perot 34-33-32. Funny how the EV and PV were reversed; I won the EV before Bush with Clinton last, 226-194-118.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 12:04:58 PM
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This one was darn close! :( I got 34% of the PV and 248 EVs. Bush got 33% and 100 EVs, Clinton 31% and 190 EVs. (Clinton got Illinois, California and New York, but that was pretty much it for him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 27, 2005, 02:16:04 PM
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Ok, this was just too much...

Perot: 268 EVs, 37% (41 359 273 votes)

Clinton: 126 EVs, 31% (34 380 877 votes)

Bush: 144 EVs, 30% (33 771 318 votes)

Deciding state: Connecticut where the results were:
Bush: 40.1% (580 679)
Perot: 39.3% (568 060)
Clinton: 20.4% (294 719)

I was 1300 votes from winning! :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on April 27, 2005, 03:01:05 PM
Ok, who do you wanna run against what are your stats and so on?  Anything 1992 I guess...



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on April 29, 2005, 03:23:42 PM
Ah, good ol' Dynamism:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 01, 2005, 06:41:29 PM
I finally did it. As Hoover I beat FDR in the 1932 Scenario! :D

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 Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis: 269 Electoral; 52% (74,874,084) popular

 Franklin Roosevelt/John N. Gardner: 262 Electoral; 42% (60,989,298) popular

Norman Thomas/Thomas Maurer: 0 Electoral; 3% (4,446,080) popular

William Foster/James Ford: 0 Electoral, 1% (2,398,905) popular votes

Thank God for Norman Thomas. His 7.8% in New York gave me the state and the election by 1,788 votes!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 03, 2005, 02:56:38 PM
I may now have the strangest map ever:

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This was a 2008 scenario with made up candidates, I was playing as a moderate libertarian-esque Democrat from NY against a populist conservative candidate from AR.

For a bit in this game, the Republican had 8-point leads in MA and IL and I had leads in ND and NE.

Close states (less than 5%)
Wyoming Dem +2.7
Georgia Dem +1.7
Iowa Dem +0.7
Missouri GOP +1.7
Kansas GOP +1.9
Hawaii GOP +2.5
Utah GOP +2.9


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 06, 2005, 06:45:25 AM
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I decided to run the Swedish PM against Bush and loaded his stats and platform as best I could. The result:

Persson/Nuder: 54% and 425 EVs
Bush/Cheney: 40% and 113 EVs
Nader/Camejo: 3%
Badnarik: 1%

I started out 41%-45% though and it got to 41%-46% before I turned it around.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 06, 2005, 09:24:15 AM
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Bush/Cheney (me) v Clark/Edwards, no others.

Bush: 62% (77 088 439 votes) and 508 EVs
Clark: 37% (47 133 202 votes) and 30 EVs

Best states:
Bush:
Wyoming: 80.1%
Idaho: 79.2%
Utah: 78.1%

Clark:
Florida: 53.7%
Delaware: 47.1%
Iowa: 46.5%

(DC was 59-41 to Clark)

Closest states were Clark's 3 best. ;)

I broke 60% in both the northwest (WA and OR) and upper New England (ME, VT, NH) as well as in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 07, 2005, 09:19:01 AM
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Dukakis: 60%, 522 EVs
Bush: 37%: 16 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 07, 2005, 12:21:18 PM
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Dukakis: 60%, 522 EVs
Bush: 37%: 16 EVs

Wow, I´m impressed. ;)



Finally, I have succeeded in building up enough Mondale-mentum to win the 1984 election. :D

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Walter Mondale
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 288

Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 250


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 08, 2005, 04:33:11 PM
I slaughtered Johnson as Goldwater in 1964 through two highly successful negative ads and three major scandals.

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Best 5 Goldwater states:
1-Mississippi  94.5%
2-Louisiana 82.9%
3-Georgia 82.8%
4-South Carolina 82.6%
5-Florida 80.3%

Best 5 Johnson states:
1-West Virginia 53.0%
2-California 32.5%
3-Rhode Island 31.4%
4-Delaware 30.2%
5-Alabama-30.1% (only because I ran less ads here, since the state was already locked up)

For whatever reason, DC was not included in this scenario.  I also won the PV 75-24


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 09, 2005, 11:42:11 AM
No, this has nothing to do with Perot... this was the "The Driver - 2012" scenario, played in the standard configuration with Whitman.


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Christine Whitman / Lincoln Chafee (Progressive)
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 311

Lindsey Graham / Bob Taft (Republican)
Popular Vote: 33%
Electoral Vote: 174

Barack Obama / John Edwards (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 26%
Electoral Vote: 53

Bob Jones / Tamara Millay (Independent)
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 09, 2005, 01:34:32 PM
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Goldwater v LBJ -I

GOldwater: 61% and 485 EVs
LBJ: 38% and 51 EVs

Best states:
Goldwater:
 Mississippi: 94.1%
Alabama: 84.3%
The Carolinas: 74.6% in both
Lousiana: 74.5%

LBJ:
West Virginia: 61.4%
Hawaii: 52.8%
California: 50.4%

Funny how easy this was...

And, Old EUrope, the DUkais scenario is pretty easy to win, Dukakis is heavily favoured. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 09, 2005, 09:14:12 PM
Just a weird election over all...

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Me/Denny Hastert v. Gore/Clark

Close Ones!
-Lost New York by 60,000 votes
-Won Oregon by 5,000 votes
-Won Connecticut by 12,000 votes
-Won Pennsylvania by less than 200,000 votes

That's Just Messed Up!
-Gore wins Arizona by nearly 200,000 votes and loses New Mexico by around 13,000.
-Nearly winning New York, overcoming an 11 point deficit in only two weeks of work.
-Gore takes 48.5% of the vote in Kansas.

Triumphful <Deleted>-Kickings!
-California, 62.1-37.9
-Ohio, 60.5-39.4
-Michigan, 57.4-42.5
-Taking Illinois by about 80,000 votes after never seeing it go red all game with six weeks of effort.

Final Score
Me 423, 54%
Gore 115, 45%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 09, 2005, 09:24:02 PM

Did you have dynamism on?  That's the only way I can account for Gore winning Arizona but not Tennessee. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 09, 2005, 10:21:48 PM
Nope, I never play with dynamism.

That's what makes it so weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 10, 2005, 11:27:12 AM
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Max Power's scenario

Bush/Cheney: 58%, 73 089 508 votes and 535 EVs
Gore/Kerry: 34%, 43 320 418 votes and 3 EVs
Nader: 3%
Buchanan: 2%

Best states:

Bush:
Nebraska: 71%
Idaho: 69.3%
Utah: 68.4%

Gore:
Rhode Island: 42.6%
Massachussetts: 42.6%
New York: 42%

Worse states:
Massachussetts: 49.6%
New YOrk: 49.9%
Rhode Island: 50.8%

DC was Gore 56.5% Bush 36%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 10, 2005, 05:03:38 PM
Back with myself as an Independent.

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Bush- 163 EVs 37% PV
Kerry- 190 EVs 34% PV
Wixted- 185 EVs 27% PV

Best States (excluding DC):

Bush: Idaho 63.5%
Kerry: Illinois 51.8%
Wixted: Vermont 47.5%

Worst State (excluding DC):

Bush: Oregon 23.7%
Kerry: Utah 18.6%
Wixted: Texas 15.5%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 10, 2005, 06:35:08 PM
Played as Perot in 1992 and won!!

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Bush- 137 EVs 34% PV
Clinton- 130 EVs 31% PV
Perot- 271 EVs 33% PV

Best State (excluding DC):

Bush: Wyoming 58.7%
Clinton: Arkansas 60.3%
Perot: Texas 49.5%

Worst State (excluding DC):

Bush: Iowa and Rhode Island 13.1%
Clinton: Arizona 12.4%
Perot: Tennessee 9.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 11, 2005, 04:56:52 PM
Bush/Cheney vs. Kerry/Lieberman vs. Wixted/McCain

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Bush: 37% PV 229 EVs
Kerry: 31% PV 92 EVs
Wixted: 30% 217 EVs

Best State (excluding DC):

Bush: Montana 60.3%
Kerry: Michigan 57.2%
Wixted: Kansas 50.1%

Worst State (excluding DC):

Bush: Rhode Island 19.0%
Kerry: Idaho 17.8%
Wixted: Tennessee 16.1%

DC Results:

Bush: 14.6%
Kerry: 58%
Wixted: 27.3%

Closest State:

Vermont: 1051 votes seperating Wixted and Kerry. 24.8-37.7-37.3


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 13, 2005, 11:48:37 AM
I just wanted to post an odd map... this is the "Liberal States of America - 2008" scenario, played with Dean. And don´t ask me why Indiana is part of the Liberal States.

Colours:
Red - Dean
Green - Nader
Light Blue (California) - Kerry
Dark Blue - Blue, eh, I mean, Red States ("Conservative States of America")


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Howard Dean (Socialist)
Popular Vote: 33%
Electoral Vote: 128

Ralph Nader (Green)
Popular Vote: 26%
Electoral Vote: 107

John Kerry (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 23%
Electoral Vote: 55

Arnold Schwarzenegger (Republican)
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 0

Election was tied, Congress chose John Kerry (and this is now called "democracy"...).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 13, 2005, 03:51:57 PM
Colin Wixted (stats taken from Jake's contest)/Bob Ehrlick vs. Kerry/Edwards

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Wixted: 317 EVs 51% PV
Kerry: 221 EVs 48% PV

Best State (excluding DC)":

Wixted: Idaho 69.7%
Kerry: Washington 60.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 13, 2005, 04:11:06 PM
Colin Wixted (stats taken from Jake's contest)/Bob Ehrlick vs. Kerry/Edwards

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Wixted: 317 EVs 51% PV
Kerry: 221 EVs 48% PV

Best State (excluding DC)":

Wixted: Idaho 69.7%
Kerry: Washington 60.3%

That's one of the most actually possible results President Forever has come out with.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 14, 2005, 06:21:51 AM
1912, played with Roosevelt:


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Roosevelt
Popular Vote: 30%
Electoral Vote: 280

Wilson
Popular Vote: 29%
Electoral Vote: 223

Taft
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 28

Debs
Popular Vote: 16%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 14, 2005, 02:02:30 PM
I won as Taft, easily defeating TR, Wilson, and debs:

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William Taft (R): 35% of the Pop. Vote; 331 Electoral Votes

Woodrow Wilson: 27% of the Pop. Vote; 142 Electoral Votes

Theodore Roosevelt: 23% of the Pop. Vote; 58 Electoral Votes

Eugene Debs: 13% of the Pop. Vote; 0 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on May 14, 2005, 04:01:28 PM
South Carolina :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 14, 2005, 05:05:21 PM

Debs, Wilson, and Roosevelt split the vote! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 14, 2005, 10:27:12 PM

Spliting 99.9% to win SC for the GOP is quite a feat!

Alvarez (myself) v. Bush and Kerry:

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Electoral College
Alvarez - 529
Bush - 9
Kerry - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 59% (69,867,538)
Bush - 27% (32,579,883)
Kerry - 11% (13,518,283)
Badnarik - 1% (2,045,455)

Best States
Alvarez: Wisconsin - 86.5% (1,951,558)
Bush: Alabama - 52.9% (991,099) They completely ignored the rest of the country!
Kerry: Illinios - 27.5% (2,097,756)
Badnarik: Maine - 9.7% (52,810) Record % for a Libertarian?

Worst States
Alvarez: Alabama - 21.8% (408,599)
Bush (excluding D.C.): Vermont - 11.1% (28,601)
Kerry: North Dakota - 0.0% (20) If you look at just blue states, then Vermont is Kerry's worst with just 60 votes!
Badnarik: North Dakota - 0.0% (14)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on May 15, 2005, 12:16:41 AM
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Reverse '64 landslide in Goldwater's favor!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on May 15, 2005, 12:44:59 AM
Using a rather odd strategy, I managed this result in 2004, Bush vs. Kerry:

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This is without dynamism, by the way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 15, 2005, 02:04:26 AM
Using a rather odd strategy, I managed this result in 2004, Bush vs. Kerry:

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This is without dynamism, by the way.

Out of curiosity, what was the strategy? :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 02:11:21 PM
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Reverse '64 landslide in Goldwater's favor!

He lost Arizona???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 02:13:59 PM

Spliting 99.9% to win SC for the GOP is quite a feat!

Alvarez (myself) v. Bush and Kerry:

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Electoral College
Alvarez - 529
Bush - 9
Kerry - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 59% (69,867,538)
Bush - 27% (32,579,883)
Kerry - 11% (13,518,283)
Badnarik - 1% (2,045,455)

Best States
Alvarez: Wisconsin - 86.5% (1,951,558)
Bush: Alabama - 52.9% (991,099) They completely ignored the rest of the country!
Kerry: Illinios - 27.5% (2,097,756)
Badnarik: Maine - 9.7% (52,810) Record % for a Libertarian?

Worst States
Alvarez: Alabama - 21.8% (408,599)
Bush (excluding D.C.): Vermont - 11.1% (28,601)
Kerry: North Dakota - 0.0% (20) If you look at just blue states, then Vermont is Kerry's worst with just 60 votes!
Badnarik: North Dakota - 0.0% (14)

BTW, I am going to post my re-election result when I ran for the D and R endorsements, got the R, and faced a general campaign against Barbara Boxer (D) and Ed Thompson (L).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 03:13:09 PM
Alvarez/Lieberman (I/R-CA) v. Boxer/Obama (D-CA) and Thompson/Johnson (L-WI):

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Electoral College
Alvarez - 538
Boxer - 0
Thompson - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 86% (101,961,641)
Boxer - 7% (8,953,626)
Thompson - 6% (6,634,886)

Best States
Alvarez: Pennsylvania - 96.3% (4,926,042) I hope I won PA-13! ;)
Boxer: California - 45.8% (6,485,430) Boxer is more popular than me in our homestate, I guess
Thompson: Utah - 8.6% (80,249) Utah is definately Libertarian-land ;)

Worst States
Alvarez: California - 48.3% (6,852,940)
Boxer: Montana - 0.0% (13) If you look at just Kerry states, then New Hampshire is Boxer's worst with just 44 votes!
Thompson: D.C. - 0.0% (82) Other than this, Thompson got at least 3.5% in every state.

Closer Look at Homestates:
California (Boxer and Alvarez)
Alvarez - 48.3% (6,852,940)
Boxer - 45.8% (6,485,430) Boxer campaigned here for the last 10
Thompson - 5.7% (810,477)

Connecticut (Lieberman)
Alvarez - 68.1% (969,939)
Boxer - 26.0% (369,882)
Thompson - 5.8% (82,196)

Illinois (Obama)
Alvarez - 76.5% (3,979,212)
Boxer - 17.2% (892,060)
Thompson - 6.2% (323,737)

Wisconsin (Thompson)
Alvarez - 93.6% (2,112,554)
Thompson - 5.8% (130,636)
Boxer - 0.5% (10,313)

New Mexico (Johnson)
Alvarez - 93.6% (709,919)
Thompson - 6.3% (48,158)
Boxer - 0.0% (210)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on May 15, 2005, 03:15:47 PM
Using a rather odd strategy, I managed this result in 2004, Bush vs. Kerry:

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This is without dynamism, by the way.

Out of curiosity, what was the strategy? :D

Make ads (try to make them Highly Successful) and then launch all four of them in the last two days, or however much time you have for them to run with your current money. Otherwise, the states that will swing wildly due to the ads shift back after a few days.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 03:19:16 PM
Make ads (try to make them Highly Successful) and then launch all four of them in the last two days, or however much time you have for them to run with your current money. Otherwise, the states that will swing wildly due to the ads shift back after a few days.

That isn't odd, that is what everybody does! ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 15, 2005, 04:33:19 PM
Make ads (try to make them Highly Successful) and then launch all four of them in the last two days, or however much time you have for them to run with your current money. Otherwise, the states that will swing wildly due to the ads shift back after a few days.

That isn't odd, that is what everybody does! ;)

Yeah, that's pretty much exactly what I do.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on May 15, 2005, 05:24:16 PM
Just to annoy the heck out of Phil I ran Phil Breseden (who I played as) against Rick Santorum in the "Ultimate-2008" Scenario.

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Phil Breseden/Russ Feingold: 52% of the Pop. Vote; 380 Electoral Votes

Rick Santorum/John Thune: 43% of Pop. Vote; 158 Electoral Votes

Jim Gorman/Barry Hess: 3% of the Pop. Vote; 0 Electoral Votes

I'll give ya' one thing though, this scenario is biased against the Santorum.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on May 15, 2005, 05:42:51 PM

Yeah I know and he won Texas...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 15, 2005, 07:00:31 PM

Is he at all related to Senator John Thune?  Playing 2004 as Bush:

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Electoral College
Bush - 523
Kerry - 15

Popular Vote
Bush - 63% (74,076,777)
Kerry - 36% (43,286,327)

Best States (not including D.C., which still was a pitiful 76.8-23.1 Kerry)
Bush:  Utah- 84.8% (788,823)
Kerry: Massachusetts- 51.1% (1,350,171)

Worst States (not including D.C., which still was a pitiful 76.8-23.1 Kerry)
Bush:  Massachusetts 48.9% (1,291,968)
Kerry: Utah - 15.1% (140,509) If you look at just real Kerry 2004 states, then New Hampshire is Kerry's worst with just 36.6%!

Closest Bush State: New Mexico
Bush: 55.2% (420,447)
Kerry: 44.7% (341,064)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 15, 2005, 07:32:05 PM

Spliting 99.9% to win SC for the GOP is quite a feat!

Alvarez (myself) v. Bush and Kerry:

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Electoral College
Alvarez - 529
Bush - 9
Kerry - 0

Popular Vote
Alvarez - 59% (69,867,538)
Bush - 27% (32,579,883)
Kerry - 11% (13,518,283)
Badnarik - 1% (2,045,455)

Best States
Alvarez: Wisconsin - 86.5% (1,951,558)
Bush: Alabama - 52.9% (991,099) They completely ignored the rest of the country!
Kerry: Illinios - 27.5% (2,097,756)
Badnarik: Maine - 9.7% (52,810) Record % for a Libertarian?

Worst States
Alvarez: Alabama - 21.8% (408,599)
Bush (excluding D.C.): Vermont - 11.1% (28,601)
Kerry: North Dakota - 0.0% (20) If you look at just blue states, then Vermont is Kerry's worst with just 60 votes!
Badnarik: North Dakota - 0.0% (14)

BTW, I am going to post my re-election result when I ran for the D and R endorsements, got the R, and faced a general campaign against Barbara Boxer (D) and Ed Thompson (L).

King what scenario did you use and what was your strategy? I have been playing as an independent for a long time and I can never seem to crack 35% of the vote. What scenario did you use and how did you win so big? Even with dynasmism on I can never seem to get over 40%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on May 15, 2005, 07:44:38 PM
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Electoral College
McCain (me) - 535
Kerry - 3

Popular Vote
McCain (me) - 71.1%
Kerry - 28.8%

Best States (including D.C.)
McCain - Utah - 91.3%
Kerry - D.C. - 51.4%

Closest State (including D.C.)
D.C. - Kerry - 51.4%, McCain - 48.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 15, 2005, 11:48:52 PM
Kerry (me) vs. Bush vs. Nader vs. Badnarik:

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Kerry: 522 EVs (51% PV)
Bush: 16 EVs (30% PV)
Nader: 0 EVs (6% PV)
Badnarik: 0 EVs (11% PV)

Best states:

Kerry: Massachusetts (71.6%)
Bush: South Dakota (44.8%)
Nader: Connecticut (18.0%)
Badnarik: California (32.9%)

Worst states:

Kerry: Washington (34.7%) (yes, his worst state was one he won)
Bush: Rhode Island (21.7%)
Nader: Tennessee (2.6%)
Badnarik: West Virginia (0.0% - 188 votes)

Closest states:

1. Wisconsin (Bush wins over Kerry, 40.6-39.5)
2. South Dakota (Bush wins over Kerry, 44.8-43.7)
3. California (Kerry wins over Badnarik, 35.9-32.9)

The massive Badnarik vote was mainly because we both got hit with pretty bad scandals and for quite a while we both had massive negative momentum - I just had less negative momentum than Bush did.  Badnarik was actually ahead in California for a moment, although my massive barrage of ads at the end won it back.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on May 16, 2005, 05:51:36 PM
I won as Taft, easily defeating TR, Wilson, and debs:

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William Taft (R): 35% of the Pop. Vote; 331 Electoral Votes

Woodrow Wilson: 27% of the Pop. Vote; 142 Electoral Votes

Theodore Roosevelt: 23% of the Pop. Vote; 58 Electoral Votes

Eugene Debs: 13% of the Pop. Vote; 0 Electoral Votes

That's nothing ;) Once, I won the entire solid south as Taft :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 16, 2005, 07:36:01 PM
Best result ever as an independent: Bush vs. Kerry vs. Wixted vs. Nolan

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Bush: 26% PV 119 EVs
Kerry: 24% PV 21 EVs
Wixted: 32% 356 EVs
Nolan: 16% PV 42 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Utah 44.9%
Kerry: New Mexico 49.5%
Wixted: Oregon 46.2%
Nolan: Marland 35.6%

Worst State:

Bush: New York 18.1%
Kerry: Alaska 15.6%
Wixted: New Mexico 13.7%
Nolan: Oregon and Kentucky 8.0%

DC Results:

Bush: 9.2%
Kerry: 47.1%
Wixted: 30.6%
Nolan: 12.9%

Tennessee Results (Craziest State):

Bush: 29.3%
Kerry: 22.2%
Wixted: 19.3%
Nolan: 29.0%

More maps soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on May 16, 2005, 08:04:46 PM
1912 as Taft

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RED Taft 469 EVs 39% 22,506,061
BLUE Wilson 36 EVs 22% 12,890,639
Dark Green TR 13 EVs 20% 11,677,588
Light Green Debs 13 EVs 17% 10,203,660


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lt. Gov. Immy on May 16, 2005, 08:13:12 PM

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Light Green Debs 13 EVs 17% 10,203,660


Bandit would be proud. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 16, 2005, 09:18:28 PM

Not as proud as how he would be with what I just got:

Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Debs (me):

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Wilson: 176 EVs (25% PV)
Roosevelt: 152 EVs (25% PV)
Taft: 146 EVs (26% PV)
Debs: 57 EVs (23% PV)

Best states:

Wilson: Arkansas (44.5%)
Roosevelt: Washington (40.2%)
Taft: Utah (56.6%)
Debs: South Dakota (39.8%)

Worst states:

Wilson: Montana (8.9%)
Roosevelt: Utah (4.8%)
Taft: Texas (6.9%)
Debs: Colorado (7.9%)

Closest states:

1. Oregon (Taft wins over Roosevelt, 31.0-30.8 )
2. Wisconsin (Taft wins over Wilson, 31.2-30.9)
3. Indiana (Wilson wins over Taft, 33.0-32.4)

I basically did absolutely nothing the entire time except for making ads and fundraising to put out as many ads as possible.  I also was successful in unearthing power 9 scandals on both Wilson and Roosevelt, who were for the longest time by far the frontrunners.  Taft picked up some of the slack, and I picked up the rest, successfully winning 4 states for Debs and nearly winning him the popular vote. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 17, 2005, 04:18:41 PM
Kucinich/Dean vs. Bush/Cheney again:


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Kucinich
PV: 53%
EV: 397

Bush
PV: 41%
EV: 141


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on May 17, 2005, 08:31:50 PM
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Bush (me) vs. Kerry

Electoral Vote
Bush - 531
Kerry - 7

Popular Vote
Bush - 67.1%
Kerry - 32.8%

Best States
Bush - Utah - 87.4%
Kerry - Rhode  Island - 52.7%

Closest States
Bush - Massacheusetts - 50.9%
Kerry - Rhode Island - 51.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 17, 2005, 10:20:52 PM
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Myself (Stevenson) vs. Eisenhower

Stevenson--360 EV 54%
Top States:
North Carolina 73.8%
Mississippi 73.6%
Arkansas 70.0%
New Jersey 68.8%

Eisenhower--171 EV 45%
Top States:
Vermont 61.6%
Ohio 58.2%
Texas 57.4%
Indiana 57.3%

Close states:
Rhode Island (Stevenson wins 50.1-49.8, or 1044 votes)
Nevada (Eisenhower wins 51.3-48.6, or about 3300 votes)
Illinois (Stevenson wins 50.4-49.5, or about 30000 votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 01:27:33 AM
Out of curiosity, how do you guys get such massive landslides where you get 60+% of the popular vote?  I've done everything I can think of and have never gotten out of the fifties.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 18, 2005, 08:36:57 AM
I'm disappointed every time I get below 55%...I post every time I play, so my results here aren't the best of the best. If you want to win big you need to produce a lot of negative momentum for your opponent. Hold attack-speeches - they almost always make the papers (more frequently than the positive ones) and can have a good effect early on on your opponent's momentum. Never touch an issue if it isn't at least on medium, preferably on high or very high.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 18, 2005, 03:28:32 PM
Party by party results for the election above:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on May 18, 2005, 03:37:37 PM
Out of curiosity, how do you guys get such massive landslides where you get 60+% of the popular vote?  I've done everything I can think of and have never gotten out of the fifties.

I use leadership ads in the last seven days. Usually four of them running in every state for a week.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 07:59:33 PM
Out of curiosity, how do you guys get such massive landslides where you get 60+% of the popular vote?  I've done everything I can think of and have never gotten out of the fifties.

I use leadership ads in the last seven days. Usually four of them running in every state for a week.

How do you afford running four ads in every state for a week?  The money I have in the 2004 scenario only lasts three days.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jake on May 18, 2005, 08:33:46 PM
All I do during the campaign is fundraise and win the endorsement money. Running the ads is enough to gain enormous momentum.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 09:00:43 PM
All I do during the campaign is fundraise and win the endorsement money. Running the ads is enough to gain enormous momentum.

Hmm, I may try that, just to see what happens.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 18, 2005, 10:51:49 PM
()

I won as George Wallace!

Nixon--31% PV 61 EV
Humphrey--36% PV 208 EV
Wallace--31% (about 500000 more votes than Nixon) 270 EV

Nixon's best states:
Idaho-59.5%
Arizona-57.6%
South Dakota-57.0%
Maine-52.6%
Oklahoma-51.6%

Humphrey's best states:
Nevada--66.8%
DC--63.5%
Connecticut--60.6%
New Mexico--60.4%
Alaska-60.0%

Wallace's best states:
Mississippi--71.1%
Louisiana--68.3%
West Virginia--67.2%
Alabama--67.2%
Texas--65.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 18, 2005, 11:06:12 PM
I'm disappointed every time I get below 55%...I post every time I play, so my results here aren't the best of the best. If you want to win big you need to produce a lot of negative momentum for your opponent. Hold attack-speeches - they almost always make the papers (more frequently than the positive ones) and can have a good effect early on on your opponent's momentum. Never touch an issue if it isn't at least on medium, preferably on high or very high.

Actually, I found my problem: I was playing with two other people.  Once I made it only me and Bush, I won with 60% of the vote. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 20, 2005, 11:26:26 AM
My new personal record with the 1976 scenario:


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Carter
Popular Vote: 55%
Electoral Vote: 462

Ford
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 76


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 20, 2005, 01:03:12 PM
Obviously, my strategy didn't work:

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P.G. Talbott (R): 229, 49%
John Kerry (D): 309, 50%

The PV was actually really close...I was ahead until Kerry won Washington, actually...

Overall, the campaign didn't do so well...bounced back in the last few days (from down 6 in the polls), taking states like Louisiana, Missouri, Hawaii...but it was just too late.

States decided within 5:

Florida: 51.2-48.7
Pennsylvania: 51.2-48.7
New York: 52.3-47.6

Flip those three states, and I win.


Not my best day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 20, 2005, 07:12:25 PM
Take 2:

Was down by nine points a week before the election.  Mississippi was a swing state.  Wyoming was looking shaky.  Damned Power 6 scandal just sat there for a couple weeks and wouldn't go away.  And then came the ad blitz.

And here was the final result:

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P.G. Talbott (R-NY): 280, 51%
John Kerry (D-MA): 258, 48%

My unexpected win in VA handed me the election.

Closest states:
Maryland: 50.5-49.4 (Kerry camped out here the last couple days)
Rhode Island: 50.5-49.4
California: 50.8-49.1 (I camped out here the last couple days)
Hawaii: 51.5-48.4
Virginia: 51.9-48.0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 21, 2005, 05:03:16 AM
1980 election:


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Carter
Popular Vote: 53%
Electoral Vote: 444

Reagan
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 94

Anderson
Popular Vote: 4%
Electoral Vote: 0

Clark
Popular Vote: 1%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 21, 2005, 10:27:53 AM
And now 1992:


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Clinton
Popular Vote: 49%
Electoral Vote: 486

Bush
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 52

Perot
Popular Vote: 12%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on May 21, 2005, 12:05:55 PM
My best record as Kerry (who I did not support, for the record).

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I spent a whole lot of time fundraising, got over $100,000,000 near the end.  I camped out in Texas for a while, and had Edwards go all over.

I made a last minute run at Utah, and got it so close - 50.0% to 49.9%.

Anyways

Electoral Vote
Kerry - 518
Bush - 20

Popular Vote
Kerry - 65%
Bush - 34%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on May 21, 2005, 04:02:44 PM
Kucinich/Dean vs. Bush/Cheney again:


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Kucinich
PV: 53%
EV: 397

Bush
PV: 41%
EV: 141
That just about explains why I wouldn't waste the money to buy this game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 22, 2005, 01:32:18 AM
That just about explains why I wouldn't waste the money to buy this game.

But half the fun of the game is attempting to make incredibly impossible results.  Realistic results are boring.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 22, 2005, 09:50:38 AM
Here we have a rather, uh, colorful result. I played the "Rising Stars - 2020" scenario with Gonzalez (Green).


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Red = Democratic
Dark Blue = Republican
Light Blue = Libertarian
Green = Well, Green ;)


Michael Badnarik / Diana Devot (Libertarian)
Popular Vote: 25%
Electoral Vote: 224

Matt Gonzalez / John Eder (Green)
Popular Vote: 25%
Electoral Vote: 199

Stephanie Herseth / Harold Ford, Jr. (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 24%
Electoral Vote: 88

George P. Bush / Adam Putnam (Republican)
Popular Vote: 24%
Electoral Vote: 27


The election was tied and decided by Congress in favor of Gonzalez.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 22, 2005, 07:52:25 PM
()

1992
Bush/Quayle (myself)--47% 433 EV
Clinton/Gore--29% 70 EV
Perot/Stockdale--22% 35 EV

I might have made it an electoral sweep (outside of WV and DC) but I was socked by two major scandals (one reached power 11) with about 2 weeks to go.

Best states:
Bush--North Dakota 65.0%
Clinton--West Virginia 50.0% (DC-61.3%
Perot--Wyoming 45.0%

Worst states:
Bush--California 34.1% (I was actually leading most of the way) (DC-31.2%)
Clinton--Utah 9.7%
Perot--Tennessee 4.3%

States within 5%:
Texas-Perot over Bush (42.4%-41.4%)
Arkansas-Bush over Clinton (48.1%-46.3%)
New York-Bush over Perot (42.5%-38.4%)
Utah--Bush over Perot (47.5%-42.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 23, 2005, 10:33:57 AM
()

I finally did it! :D
(Without dynamism, spies or fog of war but with economy)

Perot/Stockdale: 41.2%, 45 161 274 votes, 334 EVs

Bush/Quayle: 29.7%, 32 578 468 votes, 150 EVs

Clinton/Gore: 29.1%, 31 845 576 votes, 54 EVs

Best states:

Perot:

Utah: 64.7%
South Dakota: 63.1%
Oklahoma: 62.8%
Texas: 62.1%
Washington: 60.6%

Bush:

Alabama: 53.4%
Virginia: 49.9%
Mississippi: 48.4%
North Carolina: 47.4%
Arkansas: 45%

Clinton:

Arkansas; 42.4%
Maryland: 39.3%
Georgia: 38.4%
Colorado: 37.6%
Hawaii: 37.3%

Worse states:

Perot:

Alabama: 12.2%
Arkansas: 12.4%
Hawaii: 18.3%
Georgia: 18.3%
Kentucky: 21.1%

Bush:

Rhode Island: 13.9%
Massachusetts: 14%
Vermont: 14.9%
Maine: 15.6%
Missouri: 16.1%

Clinton:

Utah: 13.1%
North Dakota: 14.5%
Alaska: 15.2%
Wyoming: 17%
Oklahoma: 17.1%

Closest states:

Tennessee: Bush v Clinton, 34.6% v 34%
Colorado: Clinton v Perot, 37.6% v 36.6%
Arizona: Bush v Perot, 37.1% v 36%
Arkansas: Bush v Clinton, 45% v 42.4%

DC was
Clinton: 68.5%
Perot: 26.5%
Bush: 4.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 23, 2005, 10:55:41 AM
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Josh, here's your game:

Craddock/McCain: 50%, 270 EVs

Kerry/Edwards: 48%, 268 EVs

Badnarik/Nolan (me), 0% (400 000 votes)

The state results were pretty much along the same lines as the real 2004 results. Generally though, no states were close, witht the sole exception of West Virginia which Craddock won by 631 votes, 49% and 399 815 votes v 48.9% and 399 186 votes. Badnarik got 1.9% or 15 760 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on May 23, 2005, 04:18:41 PM
Wow, won CT but lost TN, oh well, thanks for running me. Feel free to run me in other races.. maybe some against you or whatever


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 25, 2005, 10:26:25 PM
()

This is the 1860 election:
Stephen Douglas (myself/blue)-35% PV 146 EV
John Breckenridge (red)-25% PV 122 EV
John Bell (green)-20% PV 29 EV
Abraham Lincoln (yellow)-18% PV 6 EV

Best states
Douglas:
1) Michigan 76.4%
2) Rhode Island 71.2%
3) New Jersey 70.2%
4) Minnesota 69.7%
5) Illinois 64.4%

Breckenridge:
1) Texas 59.7%
2) Mississippi 57.1%
3) South Carolina 55.2%
4) Florida 53.7%
5) Arkansas 52.2%

Bell:
1) Maryland 48.0%
2) Lousiana 47.6%
3) Tennessee 46.9%
4) North Carolina 45.7% (he lost the state)
5) Virginia 44.5% (he lost the state)

Lincoln:
1) Vermont 44.7% (he lost the state, but was leading until I shot up 45 points in the polls the last week)
2) Connecticut 43.4%
3) Ohio 38.6% (lost state)
4) New York 36.3% (lost state)
5) Wisconsin 36.0% (lost state)

Worst States:
Douglas:
1) Texas 2.3%
2) Mississippi 4.0%
3) Florida 4.2%
4) Maryland 4.4%
5) Virginia 5.0%

Breckenridge:
1) Michigan 0.3%
2) Ohio 2.0%
3) Wisconsin 2.1%
3) New York 2.1%
5) Massachusetts 2.7%

Bell:
1) Wisconsin 0.0% (108 votes)
2) Minnesota 0.3%
3) New Jersey 0.6%
4) Rhode Island 0.7%
5) New York 1.0%

Lincoln:
1) Kentucky 0.0% (35 votes)
2) Arkansas 0.0% (47 votes)
2) Virginia 0.0% (47 votes)
4) Mississippi 0.0% (62 votes)
5) North Carolina 0.0% (187 votes)

Close States (Less than 5%)
Delaware-Bell defeats Breckenridge defeats Douglas (32.2%-31.6%-26.3%)
Tennessee-Bell defeats Breckenridge (46.9%-45.5%)
Maryland-Bell defeats Breckenridge (48.0%-46.3%)
North Carolina-Breckenridge defeats Bell (48.2%-45.7%)
Louisiana-Bell defeats Breckenridge (47.6%-43.6%)
California-Breckenridge defeats Douglas (33.7%-29.2%)

...forgot to add, Congress elected me President!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 28, 2005, 11:19:15 AM
2020--Rising Stars

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Melissa Hart-29% 261 EV
Bob Casey (me)-33% 251 EV
Matt Gonzalez-19% 14 EV
Michael Badnarik-17% 12 EV

Best states

Hart:
Utah 48.3%
Wisconsin 48.2%
Kentucky 47.9%
Tennessee 46.6%
North Carolina 45.7%

Casey:
DC 65.2%
Ohio 45.2%
Illinois 44.4%
New Hampshire 40.5%
Arizona 40.4%

Gonzalez:
Oregon 42.8%
Hawaii 37.1%
California 35.3%
Vermont 33.2%
Maine 31.4%

Badnarik:
Wyoming 40.4%
Montana 38.2%
Alaska 35.4%
New Hampshire 32.6%
North Dakota 32.4%

Worst States

Hart:
Hawaii 15.0%
California 15.0%
Maine 15.8%
Arizona 16.7%
Oregon 17.5%

Casey:
Alaska 16.4%
Oklahoma 20.5%
Georgia 22.7%
Alabama 23.2%
Arkansas 23.5%

Gonzalez:
Montana 3.7%
Georgia 4.8%
Utah 6.1%
South Dakota 6.7%
Nebraska 6.9%

Badnarik:
DC 3.8%
Oregon 4.1%
Vermont 6.9%
Wisconsin 7.0%
Hawaii 8.4%

Close states (<5%)
Washington-Hart defeats Casey (34.1-33.9)
Maine-Gonzalez defeats Casey (31.4-31.1)
Virginia-Casey defeats Hart (33.3-32.9) (I wasn't even close-pulled this one with last second ad blitz)
Vermont-Gonzalez defeats Casey/Hart (33.2-31.5-28.2)
Iowa-Hart defeats Casey (41.0-39.1)
North Dakota-Badnarik defeats Casey (32.4-30.3)
Pennsylvania-Hart defeats Casey (39.7-37.6)
Connecticut-Casey defeats Gonzalez (30.8-28.5)
Michigan-Hart defeats Badnarik/Casey (29.4-25.4-24.9)
Hawaii-Casey defeats Gonzalez (39.3-37.1)
California-Casey defeats Gonzalez (35.3-31.2)
Alaska-Badnarik defeats Hart (35.3-31.2)
Idaho-Casey defeats Badnarik (34.9-30.0)

And the House decided to vote for Hart to win the election :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 30, 2005, 03:48:04 PM
1992:

Bush v. Clinton v. Talbott v. Marrou

Clinton got hard hit with some ridiculously large scandals early, and was essentially knocked out of the race.

Final Polls:

Bush 35 - Talbott 28 - Clinton 19 - Marrou 4 - Undecided 12

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Talbott 270 - Bush 265 - Clinton 3

Talbott with a (rather) secure lead in the electoral vote despite being down 7 in the popular vote--the only "swing" for Talbott is California, which he holds securely over Clinton.

However, due to the collapse of the regular party system, things are still very much up in the air.  There are a lot of undecided voters (12%) going into election day--"Undecided" actually has the lead in two states (DC--why it's D+30, and PA--where Undecided has a 14-point lead over Bush--it should actually be D+20...)

Election Results will be up momentarily...




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 30, 2005, 03:59:05 PM
Well, no big surprises (as usual).

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Clinton gained back most of the undecideds in DC...but, thanks to a strong showing by Marrou (who placed 3rd, above Talbott) still only got 64.6% of the vote.

Which means that the strongest state for any candidate in this election was not DC...but Hawaii.  70.6% for Bush.

Final PV Results:
Bush: 46,149,947 (42%): 265 EV
Talbott: 35,268,795 (32%): 270 EV  --WINNER
Clinton: 23,750,972 (21%): 3 EV
Marrou: 4,672,448 (4%).

Despite losing the PV by 10 points, Talbott somehow wins the election.

Perot does well in his states--Bush does much better in his.  The fact that there is only one state won with less than 30% of the vote (MO) in a three-way race like this is telling.

The only reasonably close state that Talbott won (within 7) was Delaware:
Talbott 42.9 - Bush 39.5 - Clinton 17.3 - Marrou 0.1

If Bush had won here, the EV count would have been 268-267-3...with Clinton winning in the House despite polling only slightly better than Perot did in the real election.  Now that would have been a sight to see.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 30, 2005, 04:16:25 PM
Cool Erc. What is this for? Who's Talbott? What scenario is this?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on May 30, 2005, 04:22:25 PM
Cool Erc. What is this for? Who's Talbott? What scenario is this?

Just the regular 1992 scenario, with Talbott (Representative from New York, see the PF Contest thread for his stats [essentially, he's me]) substituted for Perot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on May 31, 2005, 02:29:08 PM
Rising Stars 2020

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Hesreth/Obama (me)--38% 349 EV
Bush/Staples--25% 100 EV
Gonzalez/Eder--18% 41 EV
Badnarik/Default VP-forget name--17% 48 EV

Best states

Herseth:
DC 73.3%
Illinois 56.7%
Delaware 55.4%
Iowa 49.2%
California 48.0%

Bush:
Pennsylvania 40.7%
New York 39.9%
Wisconsin 38.2%
Georgia 37.7%
Florida 36.6%

Gonzalez
Oregon 51.1%
Washington 41.9%
Maine 41.3%
New Jersey 37.0%
Hawaii 34.7%

Badnarik
New Hampshire 48.4%
Wyoming 45.7%
Utah 43.4%
Nebraska 41.8%
Montana 38.1%

Close states (within 5)
Georgia-Bush defeats Hesreth (37.7-37.2)
Idaho-Bush defeats Barnarik defeats Herseth (32.6-31.9-29.4)
Ohio-Bush defeats Herseth (35.5-34.5)
New York-Herseth defeats Bush (40.3-39.3)
Alabama-Badnarik defeats Bush (30.6-29.1)
Vermont-Gonzalez defeats Badnarik (31.6-30.0)
South Carolina-Badnarik defeats Bush (35.6-33.4)
West Virginia-Herseth defeats Bush (40.2-37.2)
Alaska-Badnarik defeats Herseth (35.2-31.8)
Colorado-Herseth defeats Bush (34.1-29.9)
Louisiana-Bush defeats Herseth (29.9-25.4)
Florida-Bush defeats Herseth (36.6-31.9)
Pennsylvania-Bush defeats Herseth (40.7-36.8)
Montana-Badnarik defeats Bush (38.1-33.3)
Minnesota-Herseth defeats Gonzalez (32.0-27.0)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 01, 2005, 04:35:28 PM
1992 without Perot:


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Clinton
Popular Vote: 61%
Electoral Vote: 503

Bush
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 35


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 03, 2005, 09:14:23 AM
Alternate 1992: Pat Buchanan vs. Paul Tsongas (me) vs. Ross Perot


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Tsongas (D)
PV: 41%
EV: 300

Perot (I)
PV: 31%
EV: 238

Buchanan (R)
PV: 25%
EV: 0


Title: Bush v. Clark, Pt I
Post by: ilikeverin on June 03, 2005, 04:15:42 PM
I've been using the 'make lots of ads and then deploy them the week before the election' strategy.  Except I've also been researching strategies.

Let's just say this: Whee! ;D

(Note: I use Dynamism, because it's fun)

Monday, November 1st's polls have revealed some interesting phenomena (percentages listed Clark (Clark Change)-Bush (Bush Change)-Nolan (Nolan Change))

CA: 57 (+11)-39 (-3)-3 (+2)
NM: 52 (+12)-45 (-11)-1 (0)
KS: 53 (+18)-42 (-7)-4 (+2)
MO: 53 (+12)-44 (-11)-2 (-1)
LA: 62 (+31)-34 (-8)-2 (+1)
TN: 53 (+13)-44 (-13)-2 (0)
GA: 56 (+24)-41 (-5)-1 (0)
MI: 57 (+12)-30 (-13)-11 (+3)
IN: 50 (+15)-48 (-5)-0 (0)
MD: 67 (+27)-30 (-7)-1 (+1)
NY: 49 (+11)-45 (-11)-5 (0)
CT: 57 (+18)-34 (-5)-1 (0)
VT: 66 (+26)-28 (-10)-4 (+1)
ME: 60 (+17)-35 (-5)-3 (0)

Nolan also inexplicably gained 12 points in Arizona, bringing the total there to 42 (-3)-34 (0)-16 (+12) (Yes, somehow even though Deleware is 'Bush country', and states such as New York were 'Bush country' before the ad blitz... somehow, Arizona was 'Clark solid' :P

Election update is next post...

EDIT: Bush also has a 32 point lead in Minnesota :P


Title: Bush v. Clark, Pt II
Post by: ilikeverin on June 03, 2005, 05:05:24 PM
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Wesley Clark (me)-55% 407 EV
George W. Bush-41% 131 EV
Whatshisface Nolan-3% 0 EV

Best States

Clark:
(DC 89.0%)
Rhode Island 75.7%
Maryland 72.0%
New Jersey 70.2%
Massachusetts 69.6%
Washington 69.3%

Bush:
Alabama 60.2%
Alaska 59.8%
Idaho 59.6%
Mississippi 58.4%
Arkansas 57.3%

Nolan:
Arizona 20.9%
Michigan 12.3%
Vermont 7.3%
Ohio 6.2%
New York 5.7%

Worst States

Clark:
Alaska 38.2%
(tie) Idaho 38.3%
(tie) Arkansas 38.3%
Mississippi 39.0%
(tie) Alabama 39.2%
(tie) Hawaii 39.2%
Ohio 40.7%

Bush:
(DC 10.7%)
Rhode Island 22.0%
Maryland 26.3%
Vermont 27.7%
Massachusetts 28.3%
New Jersey 29.6%

Nolan:
(tie) Nebraska 0.0% (46 votes)
(tie) Delaware 0.0% (105 votes)
(tie) New Jersey 0.0% (867 votes)
(tie) Illinois 0.0% (1,937 votes)
DC 0.1% (354 votes)

Close states (<5%)
Too lazy to do %'s, but, in no particular order:
Clark over Bush: Utah, Texas, Nebraska, Montana, North Dakota, North Carolina, Pennsylvania
Bush over Clark: Nevada, South Dakota, South Carolina

Election Day Ad Blitz Switchers (Clark-Bush-Nolan)
Utah: 49.3-48.2-2.4
Montana: 50.1-49.5-0.2
North Dakota: 51.8-47.5-.5
Nebraska: 52.4-47.5-0.0
Oklahoma: 54.8-41.6-3.5
Texas: 50.7-47.5-1.6
Wisconsin: 54.8-42.9-2.2
Kentucky: 52.6-43.5-3.7
North Carolina: 51.1-47.3-1.4
Virginia: 54.3-42.7-2.8
West Virginia: 52.5-46.2-1.2
Pennsylvania: 50.0-47.7-2.2

Hooray :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 03, 2005, 10:44:42 PM
Nice job on Utah, I didn't think that was possible


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 04, 2005, 01:10:10 AM
Nice job on Utah, I didn't think that was possible

Utah is actually surprisingly easy for a Democrat to take in President Forever, I've found.  It's @^#^ing Idaho that usually gives me trouble.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 01:35:08 PM
This time I wanted to see if the strategy works for 3rd party candidates... I guess it does :)

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Howard Dean- 43%, 271 EV
George W. Bush- 41%, 267 EV
Ralph Nader (me)- 13%, 0 EV
Michael Badnarik (I finally made him :P)- 1%, 0 EV

The campaign was crazy.  Up until the last week or two, Dean was failing... then a nicely timed scandal and 3 debate wins gave him somewhat of a fighting chance.  The thing that put him over the top, however, was my last second ad blitz's one negative ad against Bush 8)

Dean

() (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best States:
(DC 67.9%)
Illinois 60.8%
Pennsylvania 58.6%
Iowa 54.9%
Wisconsin 52.5%
Tennessee 52.3%

Worst States:
Utah 18.6%
Idaho 22.5%
Alaska 22.8%
South Dakota 23.4%
(tie) Montana 24.6%
(tie) Nebraska 24.6%

Bush

() (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best States:
Idaho 58.5%
Alaska 57.9%
Nebraska 56.9%
New York 54.8% (?!?)
Minnesota 54.6% (?!?)

Worst States:
(DC 11.4%)
Rhode Island 21.9%
Hawaii 25.0%
Vermont 27.2%
Maine 27.6%
New Jersey 28.6%

Nader

() (http://www.imageshack.us)

Best States:
South Dakota 34.8%
Montana 33.7%
Rhode Island 30.8%
South Carolina 29.6%
Utah 27.6%

Worst States:
Illinois 3.8%
Florida 7.4%
Arizona 7.7%
Nevada 7.8%
Indiana 8.4%

Closest Call:
Montana; Bush 38.8-Nader 33.7-Dean 24.6-Bdanarik 2.7

Badnarik

<no map>

Best States:
Arizona 7.1%
Illinois 6.1%
Texas 5.0%
Wyoming 4.7%
(tie) Vermont 4.1%
(tie) West Virginia 4.1%

Worst States:
(tie) Delaware 0.0% (23)
(tie) South Carolina 0.0% (30)
(tie) Idaho 0.0% (258)
(tie) Connecticut 0.0% (370)
(tie) North Carolina 0.0% (617)
(tie) New Jersey 0.0% (659)
(tie) Missouri 0.0% (1,253)
(tie) Florida 0.0% (1,814)

Closest States (<5%)
Oregon: Bush 43.4-Dean 43.2-Nader 11.6-Badnarik 1.5
Washington: Dean 44.3-Bush 42.3-Nader 12.1-Badnarik 1.1

States Which Probably Switched Due To My Ad Blitz
Washington (44.3-42.3-12.1-1.1)
Ohio (47.2-40.8-11.3-0.5)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 02:22:21 PM
Clark is a beast for this strategy.

Once again, I used 'The Strategy', but this time, instead of doing anti-Bush Leadership ads, I did anti-Bush Integrity ads.

Here are the changes in one week, sorted by + Clark Change (listed in +Clark/-Bush form.  bolded if they are now 'Clark country'):

Nevada +36/-13
South Carolina +36/-11
Kentucky +35/-10
Rhode Island +35/-7
Indiana +35/-6
South Dakota +34/-4
Nebraska +33/-4
Utah +32/-14
Mississippi +32/-12
Montana +32/-7
Idaho +30/-14
New Hampshire  +30/-13
Louisiana +30/-10
West Virginia +30/-5
Missouri +29/-11
Minnesota +29/-8
Tennessee +29/-6
Maryland +29/-5
Vermont +28/-28
Kansas +28/-10
Virginia +27/-27
Wisconsin +27/-18
Iowa +26/-13
Colorado +26/-11
Maine +24/-10
North Dakota +24/-8
Washington +24/-4
Arkansas +23/-12
Oregon +23/-6
Oklahoma +23/-6
Delaware +20/-10
Arizona +20/-4
New Mexico +19/-8
Alaska +19/-3
Wyoming +18/-9
Connecticut +15/-8
Alabama +11/-2

Now I'm moving Clark over to GET IDAHO >:( (Idaho, Alaska, and Alabama were the only ones not swayed to the Clark side (Clark side. Dark side.  Geddit?  Haw haw haw haw haw); Alaska and Alabama are Bush leans and Idaho's a Tossup with +1 Bush)

Oddly enough, the best Bush state right now is California :S where he is leading by 28% (60-32).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 02:41:51 PM
And all that led to this rather odd map:

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Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 04, 2005, 08:52:01 PM
() (http://www.imageshack.us)

OK, I'll stop posting now :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 04, 2005, 09:27:38 PM
And all that led to this rather odd map:

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Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P

I think all of this proves my comment above about Idaho. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 05, 2005, 01:12:54 AM
And all that led to this rather odd map:

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Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P

I think all of this proves my comment above about Idaho. :P

If you a scroll back a page or two, I won Idaho as Bob Casey in the Rising Stars scenario


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 05, 2005, 05:05:13 AM
And all that led to this rather odd map:

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Clark/Clinton (me)- 57%, 479 EV
Bush/Cheney- 36%, 59 EV
Nader/LaDuke- 4%, 0 EV
Badnarik/Campagna- 2%, 0 EV

Tooooooo lazy to do the rest...

NEED FOOD :P

I think all of this proves my comment above about Idaho. :P

If you a scroll back a page or two, I won Idaho as Bob Casey in the Rising Stars scenario

Idaho in 2004, I mean.  It's almost impossible to win as the Democrat (although I have done it a couple times).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 05, 2005, 08:37:39 AM
Jesus Christ, I think this is a) the most unrealistic result I´ve ever had and b) the best result I´ve ever had running as a third party candidate.


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Ross Perot (Independent)
Popular Vote: 51%
Electoral Vote: 449

William Clinton (Democratic)
Popular Vote: 27%
Electoral Vote: 80

George H.W. Bush (Republican)
Popular Vote: 18%
Electoral Vote: 9

Andre Marrou (Libertarian)
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


What happened: Well, in short, both Clinton and Bush were each hit by two major scandals in the week before the election and I spun them as long as I could. As a result, the news in the last seven days basically consisted only of those scandals. In addition, a few days before the election I started to run three very successful attack adds (two against Bush, one against Clinton).

Throughout the entire campaign Perot wasn´t in the lead in a single state, but in the last poll released before the election Perot suddenly took the lead almost everywhere. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on June 05, 2005, 01:31:47 PM
()

Bush/Quayle: 452 EVs, 46%
Clinton/Gore: 83 EVs, 34%
Perot/Stockdale: 3 EVs, 19%

Best states:
Bush:
Tennessee: 66%
Mississippi: 63.9%
Virginia: 54.3%
South Carolina: 53.7%
North Carolina: 53.2%

Clinton:
Louisiana: 54.4%
New Mexico: 53.2%
New York: 52.5%
New Jersey: 48.8%
Arkansas: 47.4%

Perot:
Wyoming: 43.9%
Utah: 42.6%
Nebraska: 39.7%
South Dakota: 38.1%
North Dakota: 37.2%

Worse states:
Bush:
New Mexico: 36.5%
Massachusetts: 37%
Louisiana: 37.9%
New York: 38.1%
New Jersey: 38.4%

Clinton:
Utah: 11.2%
Nebraska: 12.6%
North Dakota: 14.5%
Idaho: 14.6%
Wyoming: 15.9%

Perot:
Mississippi: 1.2%
Alabama: 4.8%
Tennessee: 4.9%
Virginia: 5%
Arkansas: 5.7%

Closest states:
Georgia: Bush over Clinton by 0.3%, 8 355 votes
Hawaii: Bush over Clinton by 0.5%, 2 331 votes
Arkansas: Clinton over Bush by 0.6%, 6 881 votes

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I almost never got any good ads and ran out of money on the last day...but still won comfortably with Bush by focusing on my experience. I got hit by 4 scandals, I think it was, one power 9, one power 3 and two power 6. Clinton won every debate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on June 05, 2005, 02:30:02 PM
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on June 05, 2005, 06:13:38 PM
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I thought your favorite election would be 1928 ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 05, 2005, 06:23:10 PM
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That was a fun one.  Played as Governor Josh Hatterly of Michigan.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 05, 2005, 07:03:47 PM
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I would attempt to make them if I knew anything at all about them. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on June 05, 2005, 10:45:03 PM
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I would attempt to make them if I knew anything at all about them. :D

I could send you some info on them.

Give you issues and candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 05, 2005, 11:51:24 PM
I did Gore vs. Keyes vs. Nader vs. Buchanan to see which hard core Republican states I could win:

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If I weren't socked with a few scandals, I would have won South Dakota (lost by 2.7), Nebraska (lost by 5.0), Louisiana (lost by 1.1) Arkansas (lost by 0.7) and Utah (lost by 0.3)!

I'll add Keyes to teh 2004 scenario and see how that goes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 06, 2005, 12:56:13 AM
Here we go:

Mark Warner/Dick Gephardt vs. Alan Keyes/Pat Toomey (2004)

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I won the PV 64-35.  I won Utah, Idaho, Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Wyoming, Texas, Kansas, North Dakota, South Dakota and Alaska by over 10 points each, and yet lose Ohio (52.8-47.1).  Oh well, I did win Idaho (58.2-41.7) ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on June 06, 2005, 10:24:39 AM
That looks awesome! It reminds me of winter for some odd reson. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 06, 2005, 04:17:50 PM
One of the oddest historical maps ever. Played as Byrd in the scenario A New Frontier - 1960. Nixon vs. Kennedy vs. Byrd vs. Decker.

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Nixon: 47% PV 268 EVs
Kennedy: 40% PV 220 EVs
Byrd: 9% PV 49 EVs
Decker: 2% 0 EVs

Best State:

Nixon: Nevada 76.2% PV
Kennedy: Georgia 69.0% PV
Byrd: Mississippi 89.0%
Decker: North Carolina 12.8% PV

Worst State:

Nixon: Mississippi 4.9% PV
Kennedy: Mississippi 2.9% PV
Byrd: West Virginia 0.0% PV (376)
Decker: Montana 0.0% (0)

PBrunsel would be proud. The Prohibition Party got over 10% in about five states and came in third in Mississippi and possibly others as well. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 06, 2005, 04:33:21 PM
()

Leonard Hobbes/Denny Hastert (R) 56%  473
John F. Kerry/John Edwards (D) 43%  65

Popular Vote Tallys: R-70,670,053; D-53,672,172

My campaign themes were center-left on gun control, center-left on military intervention and integrity. 

Early on, I just waited to build up 4 ads, which with 3 1/2 weeks to go I ran for only 2 days, and my two best ads for one more day.  After triumphing against Kerry in the first debate, I managed to turn more or less the entire country red, except for VT, NY, PA, DE, MD, NJ, WV, IL, HI and WA.  I focused on winning WA, IL, and PA in the next few weeks, while Kerry's campaign decided to hit up states like AL and KY.

With a day to go before the election, I had about $14 million in the kitty left, and Kerry had flipped IN and KY (?) into swing states.  I unleashed my 3 best ads, throwing money at every state I could, and burned $8 million in the first day added my 4th ad to the total, and definitely went over on election day (but who cares?).

I was upset when I lost NY 51-49, which prevented me from my first 500 game on PF ever.   


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 06, 2005, 05:40:41 PM
I was upset when I lost NY 51-49, which prevented me from my first 500 game on PF ever.   

Yes, getting your first 500 game is always a proud achievement. :)

I'm still attempting to get a perfect 538 game with Kerry.  The closest I've gotten so far is something like 522, losing only Wisconsin, South Dakota, and Alaska.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 06, 2005, 05:41:34 PM
I'm just waiting for 1900 and 1904, two of my favorite elections, to have a scenario.

I would attempt to make them if I knew anything at all about them. :D

I could send you some info on them.

Give you issues and candidates.

If you could do that, I'd be more than happy to see if I could put something together in my spare time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 06, 2005, 07:52:37 PM
Clinton vs. Bush vs. Me, but I didn't do too well.

Clinton: 40
Bush: 37
Me: 21

I did get over 40% in Utah though :)

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 07, 2005, 12:45:03 AM
I did the Warner vs. Keyes game again but played as Keyes:

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I won the PV 56-43


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 07, 2005, 04:15:08 PM
Clinton vs. Me vs. Bush again.

In order of votes, percentages are same:

Bush: 32%
Me: 32%
Clinton: 32%
Marrou: 1%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 07, 2005, 04:43:32 PM
Clinton vs. Me vs. Bush again.

In order of votes, percentages are same:

Bush: 32%
Me: 32%
Clinton: 32%
Marrou: 1%

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Can you put up EV totals as well? Possibly best states/worst states, close states that kinda thing as well?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 08, 2005, 11:48:49 AM
When you´ve learned to win ANY election with a landslide, this game becomes quite boring.


I played the 1912 election with Debs:

Debs
Popular Vote: 50%
Electoral Vote: 478

Roosevelt
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 29

Wilson
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 21

Taft
Popular Vote. 14%
Electoral Vote: 3


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 08, 2005, 02:11:10 PM
When you´ve learned to win ANY election with a landslide, this game becomes quite boring.


I played the 1912 election with Debs:

Debs
Popular Vote: 50%
Electoral Vote: 478

Roosevelt
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 29

Wilson
Popular Vote: 17%
Electoral Vote: 21

Taft
Popular Vote. 14%
Electoral Vote: 3

Could you put a map up?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 08, 2005, 04:18:57 PM

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 08, 2005, 04:30:47 PM

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


If the fourth party has only one state,


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 08, 2005, 04:32:12 PM

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


If the fourth party has only one state, just put that one state at like 90% third party or something and say what it's supposed to be.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 08, 2005, 04:43:05 PM

Uh, no... the Electoral College Calculator on this site has only three parties and I didn´t know a other way to make a map. But the single state that was won by Taft was Delaware if I recall correctly. ;)

How do you guys make maps with four candidates?


I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 08, 2005, 05:09:24 PM
I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 08, 2005, 05:25:14 PM
I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one. :D

Just copy this map into paint and just paint in the states as per the results.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 09, 2005, 01:01:19 AM
My first 538 EV sweep (Warner vs. Keyes)

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Popular vote was 69-30 (87,074,439-37,850,581)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 09, 2005, 10:04:17 AM
I just save the three-party file to disk and then manually color in the fourth party's states in an image editing program.

I think I´m just too lazy for that one. :D

Just copy this map into paint and just paint in the states as per the results.

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Uh, ok, but I don´t have my 1912 results anymore.




Instead I will post the map of my 1980 result I just got playing as Anderson:


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Ronald Reagan
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 297

James Carter
Popular Vote: 35%
Electoral Vote: 183

John Anderson
Popular Vote: 25%
Electoral Vote: 58

Edward Clark
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


The effect of attack ads is just ridiculously overrated in this game. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 09, 2005, 11:19:14 AM
And the 1976 election, played with McCarthy:


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Gerald Ford
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 269

James Carter
Popular Vote: 35%
Electoral Vote: 204

Eugene McCarthy
Popular Vote: 21%
Electoral Vote: 65

Edward Clark
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Carter


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on June 09, 2005, 11:36:31 AM
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Taft: 22%
Wilson(me): 34%
Roosevelt: 27%
Debbs: 14%

1912


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 09, 2005, 11:42:58 AM
What is your strategy Old Europe? Is it that same old run tons of ads on the last couple of days strategy or is their something more to it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 09, 2005, 11:55:34 AM
1968 as Wallace:

Nixon/Lodge vs. Humphrey/Muskie vs. Wallace/Le May vs. Decker

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Nixon: 40% 209 EVs
Humphrey: 45% 243 EVs
Wallace: 13% 87 EVs
Decker: 1% 0 EVs

Best State:

Nixon: Wyoming 76.5%
Humphrey: California 79.7%
Wallace: Alabama 60.2%

Worst State:

Nixon: Alabama 10.5%
Humphrey: Georgia 7.7%
Wallace: New Mexico 0.0% (47)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 09, 2005, 11:59:28 AM
What is your strategy Old Europe? Is it that same old run tons of ads on the last couple of days strategy or is their something more to it?

Uh, bascially yes. But I´m trying to test this strategy with all third-party candidates now. ;) You guys gave me the idea.




1960 with Harry Byrd:


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John F. Kennedy
Popular Vote: 41%
Electoral Vote: 284

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 37%
Electoral Vote: 213

Harry Byrd
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 40


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on June 09, 2005, 07:05:37 PM
Ok...this was really screwed up:

John McCain/Rick Santorum v. Ed Rendell/Mark Warner '08

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McCain - 525 EVs; 69% (81,017,121)
Rendell - 13 EVs; 30% (36,397,727)

No, it isn't a mistake.  I lost Arizona...as McCain...with 69% of the vote... :-[

Homestates
Arizona
Rendell (D): 51.4% (1,109,597)
McCain (R): 48.5% (1,047,478)

Pennsylvania
McCain (R): 61.0% (3,181,095)
Rendell (D): 38.9% (2,030,742)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on June 09, 2005, 07:14:09 PM
Ok...this was really screwed up:

John McCain/Rick Santorum v. Ed Rendell/Mark Warner '08

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McCain - 525 EVs; 69% (81,017,121)
Rendell - 13 EVs; 30% (36,397,727)

No, it isn't a mistake.  I lost Arizona...as McCain...with 69% of the vote... :-[

Homestates
Arizona
Rendell (D): 51.4% (1,109,597)
McCain (R): 48.5% (1,047,478)

Pennsylvania
McCain (R): 61.0% (3,181,095)
Rendell (D): 38.9% (2,030,742)

It would be nice if the game was a little more realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on June 09, 2005, 10:50:29 PM
It would be nice if the game was a little more realistic.

At least Rick Santorum carried his homestate of Virginia with over 80% of the vote! :D ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 10, 2005, 10:45:41 AM
Now it gets completely unrealistic...



Nader wins Bush´s homestate in 2000 :D :


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George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 268

Al Gore
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 225

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 21%
Electoral Vote: 45


Election was tied, Congress elected Bush.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on June 10, 2005, 04:37:39 PM
I finally won this game.  I was playing as Al Gore.  I actually won the Electoral Vote but lost the popular vote

Oh the irony. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ben Meyers on June 10, 2005, 04:46:40 PM
I finally won this game.  I was playing as Al Gore.  I actually won the Electoral Vote but lost the popular vote

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                      Bush                         Gore
Popular Vote: 63,646,046          60,858,127
Electoral Vote:  268                         270

I remember the first time I won the game.  It was on my fifteenth try against one opponent.  Dennis Kucinich was very tough to beat. . .


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 12, 2005, 08:02:40 AM
2004 with Nader:


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George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 39%
Electoral Vote: 261

John Kerry
Popular Vote: 36%
Electoral Vote: 248

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 29

Election tied, Congress elected Bush


I would like to know why I always win Virginia (!), when I´m playing as Nader?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 12, 2005, 08:40:21 AM
1996 with Perot:


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Dole
Popular Vote: 34%
Electoral Vote: 216

Clinton
Popular Vote: 30%
Electoral Vote: 184

Perot
Popular Vote: 32%
Electoral Vote: 138

Browne
Popular Vote: 2%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Clinton


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 12, 2005, 09:21:32 AM
1968 with Wallace, after tons of attack speeches, attack ads, and released scandals:


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George Wallace
Popular Vote: 55%
Electoral Vote: 480

Hubert Humphrey
Popular Vote: 22%
Electoral Vote: 48

Richard Nixon
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 11


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 12, 2005, 10:18:41 AM
I had a dream last night where I played President Forever.  I was Perot in 1992 and won tons of states, even though the color used for me was blue.  ???

???

???

???

???

Stupid boring dreams of mundane pointlessness :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 12, 2005, 10:36:56 AM
I had a dream last night where I played President Forever.  I was Perot in 1992 and won tons of states, even though the color used for me was blue.  ???

???

???

???

???

Stupid boring dreams of mundane pointlessness :P

Perot is a Democrat in your subconsciousness? :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 12, 2005, 05:17:48 PM
They should really try to lower the power of attack ads, attack speeches, and scandals in this game... especially attack ads. And it should be much harder for a third-party candidate to get ALL endorsements. By getting all endorsements I practically multiplied my campaign budget by the factor of 32!



1980 with Clark:


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Carter
Popular Vote: 40%
Electoral Vote: 269

Reagan
Popular Vote: 33%
Electoral Vote: 170

Clark
Popular Vote: 20%
Electoral Vote: 99

Anderson
Popular Vote: 6%
Electoral Vote: 0


Election was tied, Congress elected Carter


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 13, 2005, 12:38:08 AM
BRTD would be proud, I kicked ass as Debs:

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I won't go into details, but:

Debs-Wilson-Taft-Roosevelt:
PV:  38%-20%-22%-18%
EV:  393-85-36-17


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on June 15, 2005, 12:57:33 PM
Powell/Cheney (Me): 54%
Sharpton/Edwards: 45%

I was hit with a bunch of big scandals late in the campaign.  I won Massachusetts 57.3-42.6.  This is one of the oddest maps I have ever seen.

My best state was Wymonig where I got 69.6%.  Sharpton's best was Arkansas where he got 56.5%.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on June 15, 2005, 01:38:53 PM
Must of had very high African-American turnout in Mississippi.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on June 16, 2005, 11:46:55 AM
1968:
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Humphrey
Popular Vote: 48,174,850     47%
Electoral Vote: 375

Nixon
Popular Vote: 42,608,568    42%
Electoral Vote: 118

Wallace
Popular Vote: 10,563,110   10%
Electoral Vote: 45

Closest State:
Alaska (Nixon-48.9%, Humphrey-48.8, only 164 votes between them)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 18, 2005, 12:10:38 PM
So, this was the "House of Representatives - USA 2002" scenario, played with "Prime Minister Forever - Canada".

I took the Libertarian Party and managed to get 21 House seats in the end.



Notes about the map:

1) The shades do not denote the popular vote, but the percentage of the total seats won by the party in the respective state.

2) Vermont was won by an Independent (Sanders), all other states who are marked with the Green colour were won by the Líbertarian Party.


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Republican Party: 45%, 229 seats
Democratic Party: 39%, 184 seats
Libertarian Party: 10%, 21 seats
Independents: 5%, 2 seats (Sanders and James Traficant in Ohio)

Libertarian seats by state:
Texas - 10
Washington - 6
Louisiana - 1
South Dakota - 1
Utah - 1
Wisconsin - 1
Wyoming - 1


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 18, 2005, 04:35:16 PM
1980, I'm Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson

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Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 306 Electoral Votes, 47%
Ronald Reagan/George Bush: 232 Electoral Votes, 44%
John Anderson/His VP: 0 Electoral Votes, 7%

Carter best non-DC state: West Virginia

Carter: 63%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 1%

Reagan best state: Utah

Reagan: 74%
Carter: 23%
Anderson: 3%

Anderson best state: Vermont

Reagan: 35%
Carter: 34%
Anderson: 31%

Closest State: Massachusetts

Carter: 39%
Reagan: 36%
Anderson: 25%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on June 18, 2005, 10:28:53 PM
My 1996 Scenario "The Contract with America", with Vince McMahon as the Libertarian:

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Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 254 Electoral Votes, 31% of the Popular Vote

Bob Dole/Kack Kemp: 138 Electoral Votes, 27% of the Popular Vote

Ross perot/Angus King: 133 Electiral Votes; 17% of the Popular Vote

Vince McMahon/Lary Elder: 13 Electoral Votes; 23% of the Popular Vote

What a race!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 20, 2005, 07:21:30 PM
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Richard Nixon: 288 Electoral Votes, 48%
George McGovern: 250 Electoral Votes, 50%
John Schmitz: 0 Electoral Votes, 1%

I was very close in Washington, but outside of that I was about 4% away in South Carolina, Oregon, and Pennsylvania.

I actually got in the upper 50% in Tennessee, Kentucky, Michigan, West Virginia, and Maryland.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on June 21, 2005, 10:15:27 AM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 21, 2005, 10:38:02 AM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 21, 2005, 11:31:46 AM

Yay :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 22, 2005, 08:17:38 AM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 22, 2005, 03:20:31 PM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on June 22, 2005, 04:08:47 PM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Assuming, of course, that lowering their establishment rating doesn't make them perform better


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 22, 2005, 04:11:05 PM
Hey I have a Idea. Someone can run like 4 people form here and see what happens.  Like 1 dem 1 rep 1 populist and 1 lib...

I'll try that when I get a chance.

Conservative: PBrunsel/Keystone Phil
Libertarian: John Dibble/Alcon
Liberal: Ilikeverin/Akno
Populist: Al/Cosmo Kramer


How do you change party establishment?

I ran this election, and it didn't work how it was supposed to. Despite having almost twice as much money as the major parties, Al and Dibble got a combined 10%.

PB won 368-170 (I was playing as Verin, I usually get somewhere between 250 and 300 EV's, so it's fair), but Al was basically a huge thorn in ILV's side, costing him a lot of states. It was 47-40-8-2 in the PV.

You go into the President Forever Scenario folder and then open the folder of the scenario you want. You will see a folder labeled parties, open that up. You will see a set of text files with the names, Republican, Democratic, Independent, and Libertarian, on them. Open up the Independent folder first. Scroll down until you see party establishment. Change this number to a 5. Do the same in the Libertarian text file. You can run it like that and see how well they do but to make things more even I would go into the Republican and Democratic text files and make their party establishment rating either 3 or 4. If you don't want to do this, it only takes about 10 minutes, I can send you a modified 2004 scenario that would work with 4 parties.


Assuming, of course, that lowering their establishment rating doesn't make them perform better

Usually putting them at 3 or 4 makes them do worse. It's only on 1 or 2 that they perform better.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Akno21 on June 22, 2005, 04:46:38 PM
Thanks, Colin :)

I'll redo the election now, hopefully we'll get some better results.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 22, 2005, 07:18:12 PM
Thanks, Colin :)

I'll redo the election now, hopefully we'll get some better results.

No problem. If that doesn't work I would suggest raising the money of the third party candidates while lowering that of the two major parties. If that still doesn't make it all that much closer, and more competitive, then you will need to probably change the starting totals and the party recognition numbers.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on June 22, 2005, 07:52:43 PM
Maybe you should make every member of the board a candidate and make a scenario to send into the website.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 24, 2005, 05:33:09 PM
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Before.  Playing as Hobbes/Hastert versus a centrist Dem from Florida/Mark Warner.

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After. 

GOTV!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on June 24, 2005, 07:21:30 PM
My first 500+ game!

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Played against Wesley Clark/Hillary Clinton, this time with my VP being from Colorado.

I ended up with 56% (70,768,796) to Clark's 43% (53,594,434), and 509 to 29 in the Electoral.

Poor PBrunsel, I lost Iowa.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on June 28, 2005, 12:22:37 AM
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I played as Perot in this one (1992)...interesting out of the states Bush won, Clinton won most of them in real life


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dan on July 03, 2005, 07:15:14 AM
Downloaded and played a 1996 scenario, played as Pete Wilson/Patrick Buchanan  vs. Clinton/Gore and this was the result.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on July 04, 2005, 06:18:12 PM
My home made 1996 scenario once again. Here was the results of my Dan Quale ,96 Campaign:

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Dan Quale/Tommy Thompson: 422 Electoral Votes; 57 percent of the popular vote

Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 116 Electoral Votes; 42 percent of the popular vote

If Quale can beat Clinton that bad maybe I made it too biased. I have sent it in to the website and hopefully it appears soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Defarge on July 05, 2005, 08:15:09 PM
Just had the most frustrating PF result ever
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Howard Dean/John Edwards: 266 Electoral Votes; 53 Percent of the Popular Vote

George Bush/Dick Cheney: 272 Electoral Votes; 47 Percent of the Popular Vote

It was looking like a landslide for me up until the last two weeks, when i got hit by two level nine scandals, one right after another. This was the first PF game in weeks where I went into election day not knowing whether I'd win or not.   I thought I could survive CT and NH suddenly swinging against me, but after Hawaii reported in and I saw I had only 266... :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 13, 2005, 05:30:14 PM
John Kerry (D-MA) vs. George W. Bush (R-TX) vs. Cosmo Kramer (Independent Populist-AR)

Just wanted to see how well Kramer's populism could hold out in an Independent campaign. Regionalism and Dynasmism were on.

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Bush: 32% PV 101 EVs
Kerry: 39% PV 308 EVs
Kramer: 27% 129 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 55.7%
Kerry: Rhode Island 67.3% (DC Kerry 60.8%)
Kramer: Alaska 48.9% followed by Utah 47.9%

Worst States:

Bush: Rhode Island 21.9%
Kerry: Utah 16.5%
Kramer: Rhode Island and Connecticut 10.7%

Kramer did best in the South and the West and mostly took away from Religious Bush voters instead of Southern Democrats. Georgia was the only state of the old Confederacy were Kramer got below 20% of the vote and except for North Carolina he won more than 25% in every Southern state. Kramer also did well in the Northeast garnering over 25% in 5 Northeastern states and came in second, to Kerry, in 4. I'll post party by party maps soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on July 15, 2005, 09:32:50 AM
Interesting.......WOOT Alaska!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 15, 2005, 08:02:05 PM
1912: Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Debs

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Taft: 25% 71 EVs
Wilson: 20% 48 EVs
Roosevelt: 36% 412 EVs
Debs: 17% O EVs

Best State:

Taft: Utah 55.8%
Wilson: Alabama 40.8%
Roosevelt: Minnesota 53.5%
Debs: Ohio 33.2%

Worst States:

Taft: Texas 10.1%
Wilson: South Dakota 8.9%
Roosevelt: Oklahoma 10.7%
Debs: Arkansas 0.0% (15)

More to come.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on July 19, 2005, 02:18:18 PM
I Created the leaders of the major parties in Sweden in PF and gave them the issue stands they hold in Sweden, but adjusted for American circumstances (favouring same tax rate would mean favouring low taxes in the game and so on) I was the libertarian and did nothing.

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Persson/Nuder (D): 46% and 195 EVs
Reinfeldt/Olofsson (R): 52% and 343 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna (L): 1% and 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on July 19, 2005, 02:32:16 PM
I ran Casey(D) v. Santorum(R) v. Hoeffel (I) 3 times. here's the average:

Santorum: 42%-2,412,973

Casey: 44%-2,537,323

Hoeffel:11.5%-624,134

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on July 19, 2005, 02:49:29 PM
PB, do you think you could send me your 1996 scenario?

(I'm itching to see if I can get President Bob Dornan. lol)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on July 19, 2005, 03:13:37 PM
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I ran as Persson and got this:
Persson: 56% and 466 EVs
Reinfeldt: 38% and 72 EVs
Nader: 2%
Badnarik: 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on July 21, 2005, 06:55:57 AM
Played Persson/Nuder v Bush/Cheney (and minor parties)

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I started 150 EVs and about 3% behind. Final result:

Persson/Nuder: 398 EVs 54%
Bush/cheney: 140 EVs 40%
Nader: 2%
Badnarik: 1%

Now, the Dakotas, Kentucky and South Carolina were all very, very close, South Carolina especially, Bush won by 1000 votes - not even a tenth of a percentage point.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on July 22, 2005, 09:05:29 AM
can someone play me as a third party?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on July 23, 2005, 11:04:43 AM
Hoover's Sweet Revenge!- 1944

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Herbert Hoover/Thomas Dewey (R): 50% of the Popular Vote; 290 Electoral Votes

Franklin Roosevelt/Jimmy Byrnes (D): 48% of the Popular Vote; 241 Electoral Votes

Norman Thomas/Thomas Maurer (S): 1% of the Popular Vote; Electoral Votes



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on July 28, 2005, 02:23:05 AM
This was fun.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on July 28, 2005, 01:42:56 PM
I should send info to Hobbes so I can see if he can defeat the power of a candidate who could win his home state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on July 31, 2005, 04:09:35 PM
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I ran Bell Pepper vs. Jalepeno Pepper vs. Habenero Pepper. It was a close one.

Bell(D)=33% (76,097,884) 149

Jalepeno(R)=33% (75,166,070) 228

Habenero(I)=33% (74,578,314) 161

Congress picked the Bell Pepper.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on August 03, 2005, 06:34:19 AM
I think this was the first time ever I managed to win all states:


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John Kerry
Popular Vote: 63%
Electoral Vote: 538

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 31%
Electoral Vote: 0

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on August 03, 2005, 10:19:30 AM
I think this was the first time ever I managed to win all states:


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John Kerry
Popular Vote: 63%
Electoral Vote: 538

George W. Bush
Popular Vote: 31%
Electoral Vote: 0

Ralph Nader
Popular Vote: 3%
Electoral Vote: 0

You won Idaho :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on August 03, 2005, 10:43:23 AM

Yes, when you´re winning all states it happens that you´re winnng Idaho too. ;)


Actually, I always had my problems with Alaska. I managed to win all states, except Alaska, several times in the past. This is the first time I succeeded.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on August 03, 2005, 02:25:18 PM
I'm proud of this one, playing as Golisano.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on August 03, 2005, 03:17:33 PM
I'm proud of this one, playing as Golisano.

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What scenario is that?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on August 03, 2005, 05:46:14 PM
King of New York Metro.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 08, 2005, 04:16:23 AM
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I ran as Colin Powell in that 2008 scenario with Frist for the GOP, Clark for the Democrats and Powell/Rice as independents.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on August 09, 2005, 07:20:52 PM
Best result ever as Wallace:

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Nixon: 38% PV 258 EVs
Humphrey: 34% PV 150 EVs
Wallace: 26% PV 131 EVs

Best State:

Nixon: Oregon 64.1%
Humphrey: Washington 64.8%
Wallace: Louisiana 68.4%

Worst State:

Nixon: Louisiana 8.6%
Humphrey: Georgia 8.6%
Wallace: Illinois 4.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on August 10, 2005, 12:36:58 AM
I tried as Wallace.  I did a tad better, but not much:

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Nixon 32% 121 EV
Humphrey 36% 252 EV
Wallace 30% 165 EV

Best State
Nixon Maine 58.2%
Humphrey Minnesota 58.6% (DC-58.3%)
Wallace Louisiana 73.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 11, 2005, 07:33:38 AM
Where is the 1968 scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 11, 2005, 07:36:03 PM
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Played standard 1992 with Clinton v Bush v Perot. No dynamism, spies or fog of war.

Clinton: 48% and 538 EVs
Bush: 34% and 0 EVs
Perot: 17% and 0 EVs

Best states:

Clinton:

South Carolina: 58%
Hawaii: 57.1%
West Virginia: 56.8%
New Jersey: 54%
Pennsylvania: 52.3%
Arkansas: 52.2%

Bush:

Georgia: 46.4%
New Mexico: 42.7%
Arkansas: 42%
Alabama: 41.9%
Tennessee: 40.2%
Lousiana: 40%

(those were the only states where Bush got over 40%)

Perot:

Arizona: 36.2%
Utah: 34.6%
Washington: 31.4%
Idaho: 30.7%
Kansas: 30.4%
Oklahoma: 29.8%

Worse states:

Clinton:

Arizona: 37.1%
Utah: 38.5%
Rhode Island: 38.6%
Idaho: 39.2%
Washington: 39.2%
(only states where Clinton didn't get at least 40%)

Bush:

North Dakota: 24.4%
Oregon: 26.4%
Arizona: 26.6%
Utah: 26.8%
Oklahoma: 27.5%

Perot:

South Carolina: 5.2%
Mississippi: 5.3%
Arkansas: 5.7%
Georgia: 6.1%
Tennessee: 6.3%

Closest states:
Arizona: Clinton over Perot by 0.9%, about 14 000 votes
Georgia: Clinton over Bush by 1%, about 29 000 votes
Rhode Island: Clinton over Bush by 2.8%, about 12 000 votes
New Mexico: Clinton over Bush by 3.2%, about 21 000 votes

DC was Clinton 86%, Bush 11.2% and Perot 2.7%.

Yeehaah! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on August 12, 2005, 08:17:25 PM
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The 2008 Colin Powell Scenario, I played as Powell.
Frist/Santorum: 31%, 92 EV
Clark/Edwards: 31%, 237 EV
Powell/Rice: 36%, 209 EVs

It was a close race. Most states didn't even have a 5% difference between first and second place.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 13, 2005, 04:45:48 PM
Bush v. Sharpton v. Nader:

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Bush - 61,785,481 votes (49%)
Sharpton - 57,625,484 votes (46%)
Nader - 4,913,408 votes (3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 13, 2005, 06:40:11 PM
Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)

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Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 13, 2005, 08:09:01 PM
Ran both Kennedy and Nixon, trying to imitate the real life scenario

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The race was highly entertaining. Kennedy was winning by a large margin when Nixon suddenly swung it back in the last weeks. Desperate catch-up efforts from Kennedy were to no avail.

Kennedy: 49% and 39.2 million votes, 184 EVs
Nixon: 49% and 38.9 million votes, 353 EVs

(that's right, Kennedy got Gored...poor guy) Kennedy won over 60% of the vote in PA and NY.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 13, 2005, 11:09:39 PM
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Social Security all the way!

Ran an attack ad that "backfired" (but sank Santorum's momentum), ran a positive Social Security ad, followed by another negative ad against Santorum (which sank him even more), and a last minute positive ad.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 14, 2005, 02:42:41 AM
And another beating:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DanielX on August 14, 2005, 05:59:42 PM
Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)

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Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)

BLUH!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 14, 2005, 07:39:16 PM
Nugent (R) v. Fonda (D)

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Fonda - 366 EV, 69,820,388 votes (56%)
Nugent - 172 EV, 54,693,123 votes (43%)

BLUH!

It's on a scenario, and it was before I found the secret of President Forever, which involves attack ads


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 15, 2005, 02:33:19 PM
I ran as both a generic Republican and a generic Democrat, trying to create equal candidates. The Republican was centre-right on everything, the Democrat centre-left. They had equal stats on everything. The Republican had Cheney as running mate and was from Georgia himself, the Democrat was from New Jersey and had Clark for a running mate. The campaign was highly entertaining with the Republican starting out ahead and the Democrat slowly catching up. Towards the later stages of the campaign the battle was for two groups of states; the tossups, such as Minnesota, West Virginia, Missouri and New Mexico and the Republican-leaning states, such as Tennesse, Arizona, Georgia and Florida. As the Republican focused on consolidating his 270+ electoral base the Democrat tried to reach above 270 EVs. With two weeks left, the Republican had the Bush 2004 states minus Missouri, Virginia, West Virginia and New Mexico, plus Wisconsin, the Democrat had the Kerry states minus Wisconsin and Minnesota, plus Virginia and Missouri. Minnesota, West Virginia and New Mexico were tossups. The Republican was thus ahead by about 10 EVs. With one week left Minnesota swung to the Democrats and Nevada became a tossup. At this point it was becoming clear that West Virginia was likely to go Democrat as well, giving the Democratic candidate a narrow majority. The Republican camp, desperate to edge out a win found only one state where the number of undecided was high enough to offer hope of victory - Vermont. Pulling out of West Virginia they threw everything at Vermont. With one day left Nevada went Republican and Vermont was down to a one point difference. Both candidates needed to win two out of the trio WV, NM and VT. The results in all 3 states were within 3 points, the naitonal popular vote within tenths of percents.






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Right/Cheney: 267 EVs
Left/Clark: 271 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on August 15, 2005, 05:43:37 PM
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Dynamism off, and I didn't do that last day ad trick.
I got this as Mondale. I won the popular vote, but barely lost the electoral vote. Kentucky was a swing state during the last week, I was hoping I'd get it and win.

I was able to get a couple of big scandals on Reagan. In the midst of the scandals, I noticed Texas had more undecided voters than the difference between the two candidates, so I heavily campaigned there until I won the state over.
Reagan: 47%, 277 EVs
Mondale: 52%, 261 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 15, 2005, 07:55:49 PM
Hey can someone play me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on August 15, 2005, 07:56:32 PM
wait...you can play over the internet?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 15, 2005, 08:02:51 PM
no, but you can put my data in to it and play as me or anyone who has the data.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on August 15, 2005, 08:22:26 PM
no, but you can put my data in to it and play as me or anyone who has the data.
i see. well, sure. give me the info and ill run you against me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on August 15, 2005, 09:48:37 PM

Am I imagining things, or haven't you had people do that at least two or three times already?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on August 17, 2005, 12:27:03 AM
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Hobbes/Owens (Progressive) 45%  420 electoral votes
Inhofe/Rice (Republican)  33%  118 electoral votes
Dean/Richardson (Democratic) 20% 0 electoral votes

The new Bull Moose Party (played on The Wedge - 2008 scenario) destroyed, basically because I targeted Dean with three highly successful ads on terrorism and one highly successful Hobbes integrity ad that I spaced out nationally for three days over a two-week period.  On the last day I ran $3 million worth of one anti-Dean ad, effectively regulating the Democrats to third party status.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 17, 2005, 01:06:40 PM
no, but you can put my data in to it and play as me or anyone who has the data.
i see. well, sure. give me the info and ill run you against me.

here you go...

Republican
Josh
Craddock
North Carolina

V.P.
Gov. Jeb Bush
Florida
+1 Leadership
4
4
4
3
5
3


CR
R
CR
C
L
CL
R
CL
CL
C
L
C
C
CR
C
C
C
C


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on August 17, 2005, 01:53:18 PM
Why don't you just run it youself Josh instead of continually asking people to run you.

Also haven't you asked this about 5 times before?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on August 17, 2005, 02:17:37 PM
Why don't you just run it youself Josh instead of continually asking people to run you.

Also haven't you asked this about 5 times before?

Because I don't have the game and my dad wont let me download it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 19, 2005, 05:13:33 PM
Playing as Wallace (including an election day "ad dump" where I run four ads in every state):

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And Congress elected Humphrey


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on August 19, 2005, 07:17:32 PM
All hail your new Fourth party Overlords!

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The three main candidates and their views.

James Cox (D-OH)

The Tariff - CL (Tariffs only for revenue generation)
Direct Democracy - CL (For primaries, Senate elections, referendums, initiative and recalls)
The League of Nations - L (The League must be created with full US Involvement)
Business Regulation - CL (The Federal government should charter business)
The Treaty of Versailles - CL (Versailles is a little too harsh on Germany)
Isolationism - CL (America should pay attention to foreign affairs)
Labor - CL (Labor Unions are a workers best protection against exploitation)
Agriculture - CL (We need better price controls)
Government expenditures - CL (Modest increase in expenditures, focus on effectiveness)
Cost of Living - C (Rising costs can be offset with growth)
Anti-Trust Laws - CL (Trusts and Monopolies should be broken-up)
Rebuilding Europe - CL (Helping Europe should be balanced with domestic concerns)
Wall Street - CL (We should be wary of the power of Wall Street)
Taxes - C (Taxes are fine as the are)
Russia - CL (We should return troops to Russia if others do)
Socialism - CL (Socialism has ideas which we can learn from)
The Wilson Legacy - L (A Great President)
Unemployment - C (Aid for a good number of depressed areas)

Warren Harding (R-OH)

Tariff - CR (Tariffs are for the protection of business and for revenue)
Direct Democracy - C (Elections are a state's issues)
The League of Nations - CR (If the League is created, the USA should not be involved)
Business Regulation - CR (We should be wary of business regulation)
The Treaty of Versailes - CR (Versailles is a little too lenient on Germany)
Isolationism - CR (America shouldn't care what happens elsewhere)
Labor Unions - CR (Unions are undermining our economy)
Agriculture - CR (Agriculture must adapt to modern business standards)
Government Expenditures - CR (Government expenditures need to be reduced)
Cost of Living - CR (Less government spending will reduce prices)
Anti-Trust Laws - CL (Trusts and Monopolies should be broken-up)
Rebuilding Europe - CR (They made the mess, let them clean it up)
Wall Street - CR (Strong Financial Markets are Vital and Should be Encouraged)
Taxes - CR (Taxes should be reduced)
Russia - CR (Europe is in a mess of it's own making)
Socialism - CR (Socialism is contrary to the American way)
The Wilson Legacy - CR (A Poor President)
Unemployment - R (No federal stimulus is necessary)

Robert Martin (F-SC)

Tariff - C (Tariffs should be used to protect labor interests and revenue)
Direct Democracy - R (The Democracy is fine as it is)
The League of Nations - R (The creation of the League should be fought at all costs)
Business Regulation - R (Business is not the concern of Government)
The Treaty of Versailes - C (It's not our problem)
Isolationism - R (America doesn't need the rest of the World)
Labor Unions - C (Labor demands must be balanced with business concerns)
Agriculture - L (We need massive subsidies to save farmers)
Government Expenditures - R (Dramatically reduce the size of the Federal Government)
Cost of Living - R (Rising costs are not a governmental concern)
Anti-Trust Laws - C (Business competitition should be regulated)
Rebuilding Europe - R (Leave them to it)
Wall Street - L (Wall Street is becoming too powerful)
Taxes - CR (Taxes should be reduced)
Russia - R (America should not become involved)
Socialism - R (Socialism is a threat to our Democracy)
The Wilson Legacy - L (A great President)
Unemployment - CR (Aid for a few depressed areas)

So. How did I do it.

#1 - Spending a lot of money

#2 - Running ads against Cox on the League of Nations

#3 - Running ads against Harding on his intregity.

Other Stuff:

Results from the former Confederate States:
Martin - 46.93% (8991872)
Cox - 34.01% (6516595)
Harding - 15.66% (3000525)
Debs - 3.40% (650855)

From the other 37 states
Harding - 39.88% (23577186)
Martin - 38.22% (22592019)
Cox - 15.44% (9129086)
Debs - 6.46% (3817302)

The five best states for Debs
California - 19.73% (2nd place, 1364234)
Arkansas - 16.69% (4th place, 131980)
Arizona - 10.40% (4th place, 59702)
Minnesota - 10.32% (3rd place, 155014)
Massachusetts - 9.5% (4th place, 216574)

The five worst states for Debs
West Virginia - 0.04% (292 votes)
South Carolina - 0.53% (5626 votes)
Texas - 0.87% (36811 votes)
Montana - 1.05% (3104 votes)
Virginia - 1.49% (25919 votes)

The five best and worst for Cox

Best: AL (52%), SC (43%), MS (41%), GA (40%), AR (40%)
Worst: WI (7%), ND (9%), MN (9%), MI (10%),  VT (11%)

The five best and worst for Harding

Best: ND (52%), MI (51%), IA (51%), CA (50%), MN (49%)
Worst: SC (0.72%), MS (7%), GA (13%), LA (14%), TX (14%)

The five best and worst for Martin

Best: WV (56%), SC (56%), TX (55%), UT (53%), VA (53%)
Worst: AR (18%), CA (19%), AL (22%), AZ (25%), DE (29%)

Martin won a majority in 10 states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 21, 2005, 07:20:58 AM
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Running a super-independent with 200 000 000 all 5s and centrist positions.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on August 26, 2005, 12:10:21 AM
Why don't you just run it youself Josh instead of continually asking people to run you.

Also haven't you asked this about 5 times before?

Because I don't have the game and my dad wont let me download it.

1. Do you have your own computer?

2. Just send them a money order, that's what I did.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on August 27, 2005, 11:57:59 PM
Same as above but now with 300 million instead of 200.

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John Smith: 37%, 449 electoral votes
George W Bush: 31%, 52 electoral votes
John F Kerry: 30%, 37 electoral votes

You may note that the only states where someone got more than 40% were Bush in Utah, Idaho, Wyoming and Alaska. (Kerry got 50.9% in DC). All the states were relatively close (at least within 10 points, most within 5). Can't be bothered to post all the close results, but there were many. Bush and Kerry were redeuced to their few strongholds: IN, UT, WY, ID, AL, AK and OK for Bush (who also managed to get away with Arkansas and North Dakota), MA, RI and DC for Kerry (Kerry won MA by less than 3000 votes) He also won NJ and DE, the former by 5000 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 05, 2005, 02:06:18 PM
The Cosmo Kramer Project

I'm personally very interested in how well a Populist independent would do nationally. So I did a little tweaking. I first off tweaked the Dean the Independent - 2004 scenario to give the independent a 5 in party visibility. I then made Preston's character, Arkansas Governor Cosmo Kramer, and got his issue positions off of the P4E Game that we were doing early this year. I also gave him 250,000,000 dollars. I use regionalism on all these sometimes with sometimes without dynamism.

First election:

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George W. Bush (Republican): 38% 225 EVs
John Kerry (Democratic): 31% 96 EVs
Cosmo Kramer (Independent Populist): 28% 217 EVs
Michael Badnarik (player) (Libertarian): 1% 0 EVs

Second Election:

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One of Kramer's best.

Bush (Republican): 33% 115 EVs
Kerry (Democrat): 35% 197 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 28% 226 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 3% 0 EVs

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One of the more realistic maps.

Bush (Republican): 38% 252 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 38% 270 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 21% 16 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 3% 0 EVs

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Bush (Republican): 35% 202 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 37% 208% EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 23% 128 EVs

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Bush (Republican): 35% 156 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 35% 194 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 24% 188 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 3% 0 EVs

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A map in which Preston steals huge amounts from Kerry.

Bush (Republican): 40% 310 EVs
Kerry (Democratic): 32% 107 EVs
Kramer (Independent Populist): 24% 121 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

Well that's it for this edition of the Cosmo Kramer Project. Check back again later for more.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on September 05, 2005, 05:49:44 PM
Hmm.  While this is very interesting, Colin, I doubt this is very realistic.  I don't think this game has any real concept of multi-dimensional issue dynamics, and it just calculates the left-to-ring average from the sum of each issue, instead of treating each issue seperately.  I'm very confused to why I repeatedly win Oklahoma, some of the great plains states, and even Arizona and New Hampshire at times, while I lose Louisiana, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi quite often.  I would also say I should win Arkansas and West Virginia every time if I win any states at all.  It makes me think the game is just treating me as a generic centrist independent, considering my economic positions and social positions would just about cancel out, making me barely left of the center.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 05, 2005, 11:02:56 PM
Can you do a PA Governor Max Power project, please? :) ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 06, 2005, 04:58:49 AM
Hmm.  While this is very interesting, Colin, I doubt this is very realistic.  I don't think this game has any real concept of multi-dimensional issue dynamics, and it just calculates the left-to-ring average from the sum of each issue, instead of treating each issue seperately.  I'm very confused to why I repeatedly win Oklahoma, some of the great plains states, and even Arizona and New Hampshire at times, while I lose Louisiana, Missouri, Kentucky, Mississippi quite often.  I would also say I should win Arkansas and West Virginia every time if I win any states at all.  It makes me think the game is just treating me as a generic centrist independent, considering my economic positions and social positions would just about cancel out, making me barely left of the center.

Preston, I think there are two key diffculties with the game.1: they don't allow for party strength to vary depending to candidates. With a populist Democrat the bloc strength in states like Arkansas and West Virginia would change quite a lot. 2: the regional issue centres are, to put it simply, wrong on many occassions. West Virginia is Centre on Free Trade. Need I say more?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on September 09, 2005, 06:18:56 PM
Simmed on "Top Dogs: 2008"

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Jesse Ventura/Angus King - 62,040,460 votes (49.93%)/511 EV
Hillary Rodham Clinton/Wesley Clark - 33,976,083 votes (27.34%)/15 EV
Rudy Giuliani/Bill Frist - 28,248,117 votes (22.73%)/12 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 10, 2005, 04:36:36 AM
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Changed all the blips in the 1960 game and played as Decker to see what would happen:

Kennedy: 274 EVs, 49%
Nixon: 263 EVs, 46%
Faubus: 2%
Decker: 0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 10, 2005, 03:12:11 PM
Can you do a PA Governor Max Power project, please? :) ;D

I may just do that. Let me find your stats.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 10, 2005, 04:12:41 PM
Can you do a PA Governor Max Power project, please? :) ;D

I may just do that. Let me find your stats.

Thanks, Colin!!! :) ;D :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on September 13, 2005, 07:44:14 PM
Simmed on "The Great Crash"

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Cooper Chambers (Socialist) - 53761170 (37%), 237 EV
Herbert Hoover (Republican) - 37812591 (26%), 192 EV
Franklin Roosevelt (Democrat) - 50906941 (35%), 103 EV

Don't ask about the high vote numbers.

And the Congress elected FDR


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 13, 2005, 07:49:11 PM
RBH, that's one crazy map!! :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DanielX on September 14, 2005, 02:35:55 PM
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Me - 85%
Kerry - 12%
Nader - 3%

My worst state (other than D.C.) was New York with 64.5%.  That was fun.  My best state was Idaho with 98%, Kerry only got 50 votes.

Is DC going Republican? OMG. Did Kerry admit to eating babies or something?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Justin on September 15, 2005, 12:57:31 AM
The Results I got while Playing as Howard Dean in the Dean the independent Scenario. Suffice to say It was the most embarrassing moment for the Democrats since Mondale's whipping in 1984, who were held to just 7 states plus DC. The GOP had a similar fate as well. Bush went on to lose Ohio, WV and VA, NH, his home state of Texas to bring about a Dean Presidency in 2004.

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Final Tally:

Bush: 33% pv| 42,103,659 Votes| 186 EV
Kerry: 30% PV| 37,356,716 votes| 55 EV
Howard Dean: 33% PV| 41,164,707| 297 EV
Badnarik: 3% PV| 3,788,513 Votes| 0 EV

Margin of Bush pop Vote Victory: 938,952 Votes

*Note New Mexico Should be in the Bush collumn


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 15, 2005, 05:08:54 PM
THE CASEY REESE PROJECT

Based off the Cosmo Kramer project using my same modified scenario. I will be running a number of elections using President Forever and will post the results.

Test 1:

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Reese has a reverse Perot like effect. This time allowing Bush to steal places like California, Vermont and Massachusetts while Reese's appeal to right leaning voters gives Kerry the edge in Georgia.

George W. Bush (Republican): 43% 357 EVs
John Kerry (Democratic): 34% 170 EVs
Max Power (Independent): 19% 3 EVs
Michael Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

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Bush (Republican): 42% 350 EVs
Kerry (Democrat): 33% 152 EVs
Reese (Independent): 22% 36 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

()

Bush (Republican): 39% 241 EVs
Kerry (Democrat): 36% 264 EVs
Reese (Independent): 21% 33 EVs

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Bush: 37% 280 EVs
Kerry: 37% 214 EVs
Reese: 20% 44 EVs

()

Bush: 41% 296 EVs
Kerry: 35% 207 EVs
Reese: 20% 35 EVs
Badnarik: 4% 0 EVs

()

Bush: 407 EVs
Kerry: 44 EVs
Reese: 17 EVs

()

Bush: 41% 394 EVs
Kerry: 34% 133 EVs
Reese: 21% 11 EVs

Well that's it folks. I may come out with more, and less realistic maps, later if you want them.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 15, 2005, 07:58:27 PM
That's odd..... Thanks, Colin!!! ;D :) :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 15, 2005, 07:59:21 PM

What do you mean by that's odd? I took out the ones where you one places like Arkansas and Mississippi and 200 EVs since they weren't very realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on September 15, 2005, 09:02:43 PM

What do you mean by that's odd? I took out the ones where you one places like Arkansas and Mississippi and 200 EVs since they weren't very realistic.
The fact that I was, like you said, a reverse-Perot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on September 17, 2005, 03:17:58 PM
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I played as Bush against Kerry. In this game I never moved either George Bush or Dick Cheney -both of them stayed in place the entire game.
Bush: 290 EV & 50%
Kerry: 248 EV & 49%

edit: oops. Tennessee went for Kerry, not Bush.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 19, 2005, 01:32:48 PM
()

This was one of my most exciting races ever. I played as myself (moderate libertarian with leadership 2, charisma 3 and the rest 4s. Running mate was Hillary Clinton who added leadership)

Lundgren/Clinton: 48% (60 373 812) and 278 EVs
Bush/Cheney: 48% (60 117 059) and 260 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%

Best states:

Bush:
Utah (74.3%)
Idaho (74.1%)
Nebraska (72.6%)
Alabama (69.3%)
Wyoming (69.1%)

Lundgren:
Oregon (64.4%)
Michigan (63.9%)
Pennsylvania (61.9%)
Washington (61%)
Iowa (60.9%)
Minnesota (60.5%)

Nader:
Illinois (8.2%)
Wisconsin (5.5%)
Vermont (5.3%)
Arizona (4.7%)
Utah (3.5%)

Badnarik:
Arizona (6.4%)
Texas (3.7%)
Nevada (2.9%)

Closest states:
Missouri, Lundgren by 0.0% (1 743 votes)
Florida, Bush by 1% (70 033 votes)

This one was really close, swinging back and forth. With one day left I was one point ahead in Florida, one behind in Missouri, so when I lost Florida I thought it was all over...




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on September 19, 2005, 05:52:39 PM
()

Tweaked the game to make it more realistic (weakening Carter, generally).

Carter/Mondale: 48%, 354 EVs
Reagan/Bush: 43%, 184 EVs
Anderson/Lucey: 5%, 0 EVs

Best states:

Carter:
Tennessee (65.6%)
Kentucky (64.6%)
Georgia (64.4%)
Texas (60.5%)
Pennsylvania (60.5%) (it's funny, I always do extremely well in Pennsylvania, regardless of time and candidate ???)

Reagan:
Utah (71.5%)
Idaho (64%)
North Dakota (62.3%)
Nebraska (62.2%)
Wyoming (61.9%)
Nevada (60%)

Andersson:
California (19.9%)
Vermont (18.9%)
Rhode Island (15.2%)
Massachussetts (14.2%)
Colorado (13.6%)

Closest states:
West Virginia, Carter by 0.2% or about 1 600 votes
Missouri, Reagan by 1.3% or about 30 000 votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on September 25, 2005, 07:39:26 PM
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Bush- 35%, 239 EV
Kerry- 33%, 196 EV
[Your] Mom- 26%, 103 EV
Badnarik- 3%, 0 EV

Bush %s:
()

Kerry %s:
()

Mom/Badnarik %s:
()

(*'s indicate places were Badnarik got >5%)

I won Wisconsin by 932 votes.  However, I lost Arkansas by 2,300 :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: © tweed on September 26, 2005, 04:56:48 PM
I ran as myself vs. Bush.  I made myself a 1-term governor with little experience or leadership but good charisma and debating skills.  I chose Gephardt as my running mate...

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Me/Gephardt 280 (47%)
Bush/Cheney 258 (47%)
Nader 4%
Nolan 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on September 26, 2005, 08:14:58 PM
The result in this election was rather disappointing; I gave Federate $80,000,000 to start out with, but he didn't do so well considering :( (I suppose it's because my anti-Bush ad backfired, though I did get a couple of scandals on him (and Kerry contributed) within the last week so his momentum was -442 on Election Day :o (Kerry's was -122, mine was +168))

()
Kerry/Edwards: 37%, 234 EV
Bush/Cheney: 34%, 138 EV
Con Federate/Reb El: 28%, 166 EV

I didn't win any states that weren't targeted in my electoral strategy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on September 29, 2005, 02:07:34 AM
()

Bush- 35%, 239 EV
Kerry- 33%, 196 EV
[Your] Mom- 26%, 103 EV
Badnarik- 3%, 0 EV

Hahaha, glad to see that Washington is a family-friendly state. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on September 29, 2005, 02:33:39 PM
()

2008 Hypothetical

Rick Santorum/Jeb Bush: 41%

Russ Feingold/Mark Warner: 45%

Ralph Nader/David Cobb: 13%

This was really creepy. Nader won 14 electoral votes and came rather close to victories in MA, CA, and.....NC. ??? ??? ??? Anyway, near the end of the campaign, 2 out of the thre debates went to Nader. that mixed with Santorum getting 3 scandals in a week result in this unusual map.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on October 05, 2005, 03:13:32 AM
()

Tweaked the 1984 game to make it more Reagan-friendly (closer to the real-life result). Without dynamism it's damn near unwinnable. I played as Mondale.

Mondale: 48%, 253 EVs
Reagan: 50%, 285 EVs
LaRouche: 0%
Bergland: 0%

There were no really close states, though Michigan and California were the tossups heading into the election. I won Michigan 52.8% v 47%, Reagan won California 53.3% v 44.6%. :(



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on October 12, 2005, 09:53:11 PM
That crazy Kerry vs. Republicans vs. Ventura vs. Constituion Sceanrio:

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George Allen/Robert Ehrlich (R): 32% (49,306,964) Popular Vote; 333 Electoral Votes

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 28% (23,085,624) of the Popular Vote; 178 Electoral Votes

Bill Gates/Jesse Ventura (I): 34% (52,449,166) of the Popular Vote; 154 Electoral Votes

Michael Perotuka/Jim Clymer (C): 3% (5,336,461) of the Popular Vote; 0 Electoral Votes

As Gates, I won the popular vote! :D



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on October 15, 2005, 10:44:25 AM
Is that the one made by me? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on October 21, 2005, 03:02:07 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on October 22, 2005, 08:33:12 PM
()

Stevenson: 49% 270

Eisenhower: 48% 261


Phew! Close one! I needed Illonois and Oregon for the win, and I barely pulled them both.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on November 01, 2005, 08:25:07 PM
Tom DeLay/Bob Taft (R) v. John Kerry/Mark Warner (D)
v. Earl Washburn/Bernie Sanders (I) v. Donald Trump/Jesse Ventura,
President, 2008


()

Trump/Ventura- 51% (64,176, 484) [413 EVs]
Kerry/Warner- 27% (34,106,503) [98 EVs]
DeLay/Taft- 19% :P (24,285,827) [27 EVs]
Washburn/Sanders- 2% (2,539,001) [0 EVs]
Others- 1% (Unspecified number of votes) [0 EVs]

Earl beat DeLay in a few states. :P



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 01, 2005, 09:05:01 PM

Pennsylvania (60.5%) (it's funny, I always do extremely well in Pennsylvania, regardless of time and candidate ???)


Sounds like me with Ohio.  I usually poll about 57-63 there, regardless of who I am running as.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 01, 2005, 09:17:57 PM
Tom Delay/Mitt Romney vs Hillary Clinton/Barak Obama - 2008

Well, the map started out looking something like this:

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Clinton: 49%

Delay: 39%

On election day

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Clinton: PV 46% EV 225

Delay: PV 52% EV 313

I must say, I'm pretty proud of this one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on November 01, 2005, 09:26:02 PM

Pennsylvania (60.5%) (it's funny, I always do extremely well in Pennsylvania, regardless of time and candidate ???)


Sounds like me with Ohio.  I usually poll about 57-63 there, regardless of who I am running as.
I always win Iowa.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 02, 2005, 12:11:47 PM
Tom Delay/Mitt Romney vs Hillary Clinton/Barak Obama - 2008

Well, the map started out looking something like this:

()

Clinton: 49%

Delay: 39%

On election day

()

Clinton: PV 46% EV 225

Delay: PV 52% EV 313

I must say, I'm pretty proud of this one.

:o Wow that is quite impressive.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 02, 2005, 01:17:58 PM
()

Wallace vs Nixon

I, of course, was Wallace.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 02, 2005, 06:24:15 PM
Tom Delay/Mitt Romney vs Hillary Clinton/Barak Obama - 2008

Well, the map started out looking something like this:

()

Clinton: 49%

Delay: 39%

On election day

()

Clinton: PV 46% EV 225

Delay: PV 52% EV 313

I must say, I'm pretty proud of this one.

:o Wow that is quite impressive.

I ran one negative ad against Hillary attacking her on abortion and got her with one power 3 scandal.  She hit me with two power nine scandals.  I ran a possitive campaign for the rest of the time and won all of the debates and endorsments.

P.S.  This election was the triumph of a very specifically targeted state-by-state strategy.  I measured which issues would win it for me on a state-to-state basis and ran a highly specialized campaign that moved in waves, from one grouping of states to the next.  Very strategy driven.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on November 03, 2005, 07:29:53 AM
()

Wallace vs Nixon

I, of course, was Wallace.
Wow, you have a really old version of PF. It was updated in Feb. 2004 to include the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 03, 2005, 02:56:16 PM
Yes, I never actually bought the game. This is the Demo game and I downloaded it when it first came out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on November 04, 2005, 09:33:01 PM
()

Taft vs. Wilson vs. Roosevelt vs. Jones (me :))

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on November 06, 2005, 06:44:19 PM
()

Bell/Everett (*hughughughug ;D*; me): 36%, 147 EV
Lincoln/Hamlin: 22%, 74 EV
Douglas/Johnson: 22% (~8,000 votes more than Lincoln), 28 EV
Breckinridge/Lane: 19%, 54 EV

Congress elects Breckinridge?!?

Candidate maps:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on November 10, 2005, 06:32:40 PM
I can't see your pictures, Fezzy- but wow, A three way race AND the libertarian gets 9%?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 11, 2005, 03:01:30 AM
()

Breckenridge vs Douglas

I, of course, was Breckenridge. :) I had Massachusetts tied for almost the entire election the last week I took the lead but I lost it in the end. A week out I was over 27 points behind in California. I broke a scandal on Douglas and moved within 5 points in CA. I still couldn't pull it off and I won in a squeeker.

Breckenridge - 153
Douglas         - 150


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 11, 2005, 04:43:32 AM
()

Breckenridge started out with a slight edge, but in what was quite possibly the most negative election in the history of the United States, Breckenridge got clobbered by Douglas with a momentum of -331 on the last day.  Douglas ran as many attack ads as he possibly could and filled the pages of the newspapers with scandals on Breckenridge on the last week of the campaign.  The South crumbled like a cookie before Breckenridge's eyes, leaving him with only 4 states worth 22 electoral votes in his column.

Best states - Douglas:

New Jersey:

Douglas: 87.9%
Breckenridge: 12.0%

Michigan:

Douglas: 86.1%
Breckenridge: 13.8%

New York:

Douglas: 85.1%
Breckenridge: 14.8%

Best states - Breckenridge:

South Carolina:

Breckenridge: 58.6%
Douglas: 41.3%

Texas:

Breckenridge: 55.7%
Douglas: 44.2%

Florida:

Breckenridge: 52.3%
Douglas: 47.6%

Closest states:

1. Mississippi (Breckenridge wins, 50.0%-50.0% - 17 votes!)
2. Arkansas (Douglas wins, 50.2%-49.7%)
3. Virginia (Douglas wins, 51.2%-48.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: © tweed on November 12, 2005, 02:07:55 PM
I beat Bush/Cheney badly as Edwards/McCain.  I won 329 EV's and won the PV by 9%.  I won NC, SC, FL, MS, and TN.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on November 12, 2005, 03:31:42 PM
()
Sanford - 377
Clark - 161


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 19, 2005, 09:32:26 PM
I won as thew Green Party in 2000!

()

Ted Turner/Susan Sarandon (G): 402 Electoral Votes; 39% (49,257,492) of the Popular Vote

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R): 136 Electoral Votes; 31% (39,355,198) of the Popular Vote

Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (D): 0 Electoral Votes; 22% (28,504,869) of the Popular Vote

Donald Trump/Angus King (Ref.): 0 Electoral Votes; 6% (8,2445,842) of the Popular Vote

Prepare for your first Green Party Presidency! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 19, 2005, 09:50:46 PM
I won as thew Green Party in 2000!

()

Ted Turner/Susan Sarandon (G): 402 Electoral Votes; 39% (49,257,492) of the Popular Vote

George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R): 136 Electoral Votes; 31% (39,355,198) of the Popular Vote

Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (D): 0 Electoral Votes; 22% (28,504,869) of the Popular Vote

Donald Trump/Angus King (Ref.): 0 Electoral Votes; 6% (8,2445,842) of the Popular Vote

Prepare for your first Green Party Presidency! :D

Yeah, Ted Turner as President!

We fianlly have a yearly Federal Budget for Civil War reenactment.  :)

And, all Secret Service agents and soldiers gaurding the President would have to dress in Confederate Grey.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 20, 2005, 10:57:43 PM
PART II; The Reelection of President Turner 2004

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Ted Turner/Susan Sarandon (G): 501 Electoral Votes; 53%(66,689,663) of the Popular Vote

Bill Owens/George Pataki (R): 27 Electoral Votes; 23% (29,884,761) of the Popular Vote

Bill Richardson/John Edwards (D):10 Electoral Votes; 22% (28,158,091) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on November 20, 2005, 11:38:15 PM
Hey PB, about that '96 scenario...? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 21, 2005, 01:15:31 AM
1928 - Smith vs. Hoover:

()

Smith - 531 EVs - 68% PV
Hoover - 0 EVs - 23% PV
Thomas - 0 EVs - 6% PV
Foster - 0 EVs - 2% PV

The election started off much in Hoover's favor, with him holding over 400 EVs, but a barrage of ads halfway through the campaign blasted Hoover's lead out of the water, and although Hoover tried to get back at Smith at the end through attack ads in retaliation and through two scandals released in the last week, Smith had a scandal of his own to release as well as another week-long barrage of ads, dooming Hoover to a complete knock-out on Election Day.  Thomas produced a complete surprise showing in Alabama, receiving 24.8% of the vote, surprising everyone.

Best states - Smith:

South Carolina:

Smith: 96.7%
Hoover: 2.2%

Mississippi:

Smith: 91.8%
Hoover: 7.9%

Louisiana:

Smith: 90.2%
Hoover: 8.5%

Best states - Hoover:

Arizona:

Smith: 52.6%
Hoover: 36.8%

Florida:

Smith: 52.7%
Hoover: 35.3%

Kansas:

Smith: 69.6%
Hoover: 28.2%

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So, uh, I think my new P4E strategy worked. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 21, 2005, 02:36:37 AM
Having thoroughly clobbered Hoover, I decided to try out one of the hardest elections to win ever...

1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan

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Mondale - 456 EVs - 65% PV
Reagan - 82 EVs - 34% PV

At the beginning of the election, Mondale was ahead in only one single state: his own state of Minnesota.  For the first half of the election, it looked like Mondale would lose in a landslide, but Mondale knew what he was doing.  Near the midway point, Mondale unleashed a quick 2-day blitz of ads - one attack ad on Reagan, one promoting himself - in 25 states, and while it was short, it put a noticeable dent in Reagan's lead, flipping many close states to Mondale.  With two weeks to go, Mondale leaked a huge scandal on Reagan.  With one and a half weeks to go, Mondale leaked another.  With five days to go, Mondale leaked a third.  For the last three days, Mondale broadcast four ads - two attacking Reagan, two promoting himself - again in 25 states, running out of money at just the right time: on election day.

Reagan never had a chance.

An odd thing to note is that, with the exception of Tennessee, Reagan received over 60% of the vote in all of the states that he did manage to win.

Best states - Mondale:

Minnesota:

Mondale: 80.1%
Reagan: 19.8%

New York:

Mondale: 79.8%
Reagan: 20.1%

Rhode Island:

Mondale: 77.7%
Reagan: 22.2%


Best states - Reagan:

Colorado:

Reagan: 69.2%
Mondale: 30.7%

Mississippi:

Reagan: 68.1%
Mondale: 31.8%

South Dakota:

Reagan: 66.6%
Mondale: 33.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 21, 2005, 02:52:21 AM
Holy sh**t, biggest landslide since the popular vote became common.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 21, 2005, 02:57:46 AM
Holy sh**t, biggest landslide since the popular vote became common.

Yes, winning almost every state with over 70% of the vote can do that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 22, 2005, 12:51:31 AM
This one is for States. :)  I decided to try my hand as Wallace in 1968.

Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace - 1968

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Wallace - 226 EVs - 33% PV
Nixon - 173 EVs - 35% PV
Humphrey - 140 EVs - 29% PV

Same deal as before.  Since we had three people, I decided to make full state-by-state maps instead of just doing the "best state" thing.

Hubert Humphrey:

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Richard Nixon:

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George Wallace:

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Congress elected Humphrey as president.

And no, I don't know why Oregon voted for Wallace.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on November 23, 2005, 02:31:09 PM
can someone run me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 23, 2005, 03:12:29 PM
I'll do it right now, just for you josh. I've got some free time. :)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on November 23, 2005, 03:23:03 PM
I'll do it right now, just for you josh. I've got some free time. :)


thanks


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 23, 2005, 03:28:51 PM
()

George W. Bush/Richard Cheney (R): 274 Electoral Votes; 49% (60,944,184) of the Popular Vote

Josh Craddock/Richard Gephardt (D): 264 Electoral Votes; 44% (55,283,167) of the Popular Vote

Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo (I): 0 Electoral Votes; 4% (5,844,204) of the Popular Vote

Michael Badnarik/Richard Campagna (L): 0 Electoral Votes; 1% (2,241,527) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on November 23, 2005, 03:31:44 PM
how did I lose VT, NH, Ma


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 23, 2005, 09:20:00 PM
Brunsel, can you run me as a republican against John Kerry?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on November 23, 2005, 09:51:41 PM
()

Jeff Wallnofer/John Kasich (R): 272 Electoral Votes; 49% (62,001,444) of the Popular Vote

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 266 Electoral Votes; 49% (61,873,436) of the Popular Vote

Michael Badnarik/Richard Campagna (L): 0 Electoral Votes; 0% (286,242) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 23, 2005, 09:57:23 PM
To bad you can't do me against Lincoln. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on November 23, 2005, 10:29:03 PM
REESE/MCCAIN v. BUSH!!! ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on November 24, 2005, 10:17:35 AM
To bad you can't do me against Lincoln. :P
()

Haha, but I did! ;)

Lincoln-90-47% (R)

Wallnofer-144-52% (D)

I played as Statesrights. Not bad considering I started at 45% and KY. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on November 24, 2005, 02:01:38 PM
1992:
()
Clinton - 123
*Bush - 407
Perot - 8

*Person I ran as


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on November 25, 2005, 01:20:08 AM
This game is whacky with the way things turn around. In the version I have if you don't run all the candidates in the multiple candidate scenarios you or your opponent will only get a very small percentage. Did they ever correct that? For example when I play Wallace vs Nixon in some states wallace has like 2% and Nixon like 54%. Did they ever fix it so its become more balanced?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on November 27, 2005, 09:38:56 PM
This game is whacky with the way things turn around. In the version I have if you don't run all the candidates in the multiple candidate scenarios you or your opponent will only get a very small percentage. Did they ever correct that? For example when I play Wallace vs Nixon in some states wallace has like 2% and Nixon like 54%. Did they ever fix it so its become more balanced?
I think that was fixed in the first patch.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on November 29, 2005, 01:04:26 PM
I think this one deserves a map.

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Bush/Cheney:  EV's 239  PV 49%

Lieberman/Gephardt (me):  EV's 299  PV 50%

There weren't many close states by elections day.

Closest states:

North Carolina:  50.4% - 49.5% Lieberman wins by 29,024 votes

Virginia:  50.9% - 49%

Oklahoma:  51.7% - 48.2%

Missouri:  52.1% - 47.8%

West Virginia: 52.9% - 47%

No other states were within 10%!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on December 08, 2005, 01:19:25 PM
My newest scenario Amerika: 1992

The plot:

America has been conquered by the USSR. This occured in 1983 under the fumbling and weak administration of a fictional U.S. President, Wesley Hoage. Hoage gave U.S. Millitary secrets to the Soviet Leaders in an attempt to, "build a bridge of trust and understanding." Soviets being cheats and liars chose to use this knowledge to shut down all U.S. Missle sights, thus leaving the U.S. at the mercy of the Soviet nuclear arsenal. Faced with certain anhiliation, President Hoage is forced to surrender. By 1983, the Soviet Union has taken over the entire United States through the completely unfair Treaty of Leningrad.

But the Soviets hit a snare, the United Nations (now located in Geneva) begins to pressure them for free elections in 1992. The USSR itself is forced to throw free elections when NATO Commander Oliver North begins the massive mobilization of NATO nuclear weapons. So in 1992, the Soviet Republic of Amerika is going to hold its first free (but probably not fair) P)Presidential election since 1980.

Parties:

New Federalist Party

The reminants of the old Democratic and Republican Parties formed the New Federalist Party in 1989 in an attempt to off set the Amerika Soviet Party. In 1992 they are still a minority in the Amerikan Supreme Soviet, but they feel the Presidency is in their grasp.

At their convention in Salt Lake City, Utah Province, they nominate the fiery and colofrul (yet unpredictable) Delegate Minority Leader Devin Milford of the Colorado Province (reference to Red Dawn in case you didn't guess it). His running mate is former NATO Commander Alexander Haige of Virgina Province.

This party looks to see a second Treaty of Leningrad which grants some self-determination to the former United States.

Soviet Amerika Party

The ruling party since 1983, the Soviet Amerika Party has been plagued by scandals, waste, and inner power struggles since its founding. The unpopuar Soviet Regime is expected to win the general election through voter supression and ballot stuffing.

At their convention in Washingrad (Washington, D.C.) they nominate the man who has held the regime together since 1983, the 72-year old General Heinrich Zwarbott for President, a resident of Washingrad. He is paired with a politcal rival, Amerikan Surpeme Soviet Majority Leader Ralph Nader of Connecticut Province.

This party seeks to keep Soviet Domination over the U.S.A. for all time.

The Minuteman Party

The Minutemen have been fighting against the Soviet Occupation since 1983, and the movement has become extremely strong, especially in the Mountain West and New England. They were responcible for several terrorist attacks, including the 1987 fertilzer bomb attack on a Soviet Army Enlistment Camp in Greenwhich, North Carolina, and the famous stand off at Waco, Texas, in 1991.

At their "convention" (more of a meeting of Minutemen Bigwigs) near Butte, Montana Province, the party nominated their leader, former Green Beret Rod Benjamin of Oklahoma Province and chose Colonel David Hunt of the Calirornian Province as Vice-President.

The Map:

()

Devin Milford/Alexander Haige (NF): 208 Electoral Votes; 40% (44,263,089) of the popular vote

Henirch Zwarbott/Ralph Nader (AS): 182 Electoral Votes; 34% (38,412,426) of the popular vote

Rod Benjamin/David Hunt (MM): 148 Electoral Votes; 24% (27,288,079) of the popular vote

The Supreme Amerikan Soviet elected General Zwarbott to the Presidency in a partisan vote, so the entire U.S. was still under the Soviet boot as 1993 enters the world.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 08, 2005, 04:38:57 PM
hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YRABNNRM on December 08, 2005, 05:39:09 PM
hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 08, 2005, 06:31:11 PM
()
Powell/Cheney: 56% and 500 EVs
Kerry/Edwards: 43% and 38 EVs

I decided to post it because it was a nice, big, round number of EVs. No last day ad blitz, either- I kept a positive amount of money.



hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?
Yea. It's pretty cheap.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Max Power on December 08, 2005, 08:07:18 PM
Prime Minister Forever- Canada 2006 comes out tonight. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 08, 2005, 09:07:39 PM
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Powell/Cheney: 56% and 500 EVs
Kerry/Edwards: 43% and 38 EVs

I decided to post it because it was a nice, big, round number of EVs. No last day ad blitz, either- I kept a positive amount of money.



hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?
Yea. It's pretty cheap.

Dad will not let me...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on December 08, 2005, 10:27:40 PM
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Powell/Cheney: 56% and 500 EVs
Kerry/Edwards: 43% and 38 EVs

I decided to post it because it was a nice, big, round number of EVs. No last day ad blitz, either- I kept a positive amount of money.



hey can you run me against again, but this time change the person I run against...

Why don't you just get the game?
Yea. It's pretty cheap.

Dad will not let me...

You could always get it, umm, by pilfering it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 10, 2005, 11:53:12 AM
1860 Election, I played as Bell.

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Second in PV, third in EV. I won the most states.

Since there was no EV majority, Congress made it's decision. I crossed my fingers...

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They picked Lincoln. :(

Ah well, it was a fun scenario. The ads seem to be way too cheap, though- it only costs $2,300 or so per day to run a nationwide ad.
Speaking of ads- at one point, Lincoln was running five ads at once in Maine. Crazy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on December 10, 2005, 11:55:39 AM

Speaking of ads- at one point, Lincoln was running five ads at once in Maine. Crazy.

Isn't there a maximum of 4 ads at a time?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 10, 2005, 12:14:51 PM

Speaking of ads- at one point, Lincoln was running five ads at once in Maine. Crazy.

Isn't there a maximum of 4 ads at a time?
Exactly, I didn't understand it either.

Edit: I ran through the scenario again. Here's a screenie of it:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on December 20, 2005, 07:08:18 PM
1924 Election played as LaFollette with Dynamism on.

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Coolidge: 39% PV 294 EVs
Davis: 19% PV 80 EVs
LaFollette: 34% 157 EVs
Debs: 6% PV 0 EVs

Best States:

Coolidge: Maine 62.5%
Davis: Mississippi 58.5%
LaFollette: Wisconsin 66.6%
Debs: North Carolina 26.5% (one of the seven states where Debs got over 20% of the vote)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on December 20, 2005, 09:18:15 PM
My feeble attempt to win as Carter:

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The losses in CA and NY hurt--but they wouldn't have mattered anyway.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on December 20, 2005, 09:34:15 PM
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And then I run the AI against Reagan and this is what happens.

Anderson only got 6% nationwide but pulled 24% in Alaska, causing that odd result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 20, 2005, 10:15:26 PM
1912 - Wilson vs. Taft vs. Roosevelt (me) vs. Debs

This election turned out to be one of the nastiest elections ever in American history.  Roosevelt's entire campaign was basically "Wilson sucks", "Taft sucks", and "Debs sucks".  Every single campaign speech made by Roosevelt was, without fail, bashing Wilson.  The only positive thing released about Roosevelt himself was a single, solitary ad that Roosevelt ran for two days at the midpoint of the election in 25 states and then for another two days in all 50 states.

By a few days before the election, the newspapers looked like this:

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...and the state of the country looked like this:

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Note the momenta of the candidates.

Roosevelt eventually turned the tide through a 2-day 50-state ad blitz right at the end, resulting in the following results:

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Theodore Roosevelt - 484 EVs - 55% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 18 EVs - 17% PV
Eugene Debs - 17 EVs - 14% PV
William Taft - 12 EVs - 12% PV

Individual candidate maps:

Wilson

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Taft

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Roosevelt

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Debs

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No, I really cannot explain Alabama for the life of me either.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 05:47:04 AM
1980 - Carter vs. Reagan vs. Anderson (me)

Not much to say other than that I WON SOME STATES AS ANDERSON!!!!!!

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Ronald Reagan - 289 EVs - 44% PV
Jimmy Carter - 230 EVs - 34% PV
John Anderson - 19 EVs - 20% PV

I'm going to see if I can further refine the technique I'm developing for playing as third-party candidates with very little money.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 07:30:02 AM
2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me)

I think Nader creamed his pants while watching the results of this election come in.

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George W. Bush - 269 EVs - 40% PV
Al Gore - 243 EVs - 39% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 20% PV

Yep, no electoral majority due to Nader's candidacy.

Congress elected Bush.

I shudder to think about what the election's fallout would be if this actually happened in reality.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on December 21, 2005, 04:11:52 PM
2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me)

I think Nader creamed his pants while watching the results of this election come in.

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George W. Bush - 269 EVs - 40% PV
Al Gore - 243 EVs - 39% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 20% PV

Yep, no electoral majority due to Nader's candidacy.

Congress elected Bush.

I shudder to think about what the election's fallout would be if this actually happened in reality.

If NY voted Bush and OK voted Gore in reality, I think there would be bigger fallout.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 08:16:03 PM
If NY voted Bush and OK voted Gore in reality, I think there would be bigger fallout.

Haha, true enough. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 21, 2005, 10:29:14 PM
2004 - Kerry vs. Bush vs. Badnarik (me)

This one's for all of the libertarians out there.

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George W. Bush - 277 EVs - 47% PV
John Kerry - 257 EVs - 41% PV
Michael Badnarik - 4 EVs - 11% PV

I bet you wish this was real. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 22, 2005, 12:18:54 AM
I doubt this is even possible in real life....

(picture)

I didn't even have dynamism on. I got two scandals(power 9's on integrity and leadership), and ran ads for one day each when I needed to regain momentum, won all three debates, and finished with a 4 day ad blitz.

Wow, maybe I'll have to reconsider Feingold after all. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 24, 2005, 05:37:46 AM
1789 - Washington vs. Adams (me)

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George Washington - 3 EVs - 38% PV
John Adams - 66 EVs - 61% PV

Though a renowned hero in the war, when election by popular vote is brought in earlier than expected, America decides to say "up yours" to Washington and elects John Adams as its first president.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Defarge on December 26, 2005, 08:33:20 PM
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Mark Warner - 406 EV's - 54%
Rick Santorum - 132 EV's - 46%

I have no idea how this happened.  I was set for a usual clean sweep of the electoral college, and then suddenly Rick Santorum won California.  It scared the jeebers out of me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 29, 2005, 09:33:24 PM
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lol nader


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 29, 2005, 09:35:00 PM

Was that scenario edited at all, by any chance? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 29, 2005, 09:51:07 PM
Nah, I just played as both Bush and Kerry, and changed their issue stances every couple of days ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 29, 2005, 10:57:05 PM
1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Breckinridge vs. Douglas vs. Bell

I really, really tried to crack a Southern state as Lincoln.  I really did.  But it just can't be done.  I give up.  This is the best I can do:

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Abraham Lincoln - 186 EVs - 52% PV
John Breckinridge - 90 EVs - 15% PV
John Bell - 27 EVs - 11% PV
Stephen Douglas - 0 EVs - 19% PV

The only states I could have maybe picked off had I had more luck would have been Maryland, Missouri, and Virginia.  I didn't get over 30% in any other state, save for South Carolina, in which I got 30.1%, but Breckinridge got 56.3% in that state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 29, 2005, 11:02:38 PM
Maybe you should try starting with Bell and work your way up?  Or something?


I dunno, I've never tried playing as Lincoln before.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 12:07:48 AM
Maybe you should try starting with Bell and work your way up?  Or something?

The main problem with Lincoln is that he starts with, like, close to 0% in most Southern states.  My campaign consistently raises that by around 20-30%, but you just don't have enough time to get it high enough to win any states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 12:57:56 AM
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on December 30, 2005, 01:08:33 AM
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

I've never beat Lincoln in the 1860 scenario. During the campaign things looked hopeful but it always pans out with Lincoln winning out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 01:22:54 AM
HAHAHAHA I DID IT

I DID IT

1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Breckinridge vs. Douglas vs. Bell

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Abraham Lincoln - 190 EVs - 57% PV
John Bell - 42 EVs - 9% PV
Stephen Douglas - 36 EVs - 20% PV
John Breckinridge - 35 EVs - 12% PV

And now, having accomplished that, I will now attempt to win as Breckinridge, just for StatesRights. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 02:11:01 AM
i think i did it

1860 - Lincoln vs. Breckenridge (me) vs. Douglas vs. Bell

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John Breckenridge - 298 EVs - 48% PV
Abraham Lincoln - 5 EVs - 25% PV
Stephen Douglas - 0 EVs - 16% PV
John Bell - 0 EVs - 9% PV

I couldn't quite breach the Republican fortress of Vermont.

If you want to try this yourself, here's what my strategy was:

1. Immediately begin researching a scandal on anyone.

2. Use all of your remaining energy to get endorsed by every organization that will give you a momentum boost.

3. Make constant ads that take three days to complete following this pattern:

   a. Leadership - Breckenridge
   b. Experience - Breckenridge
   c. Leadership - Attacking Bell
   d. Leadership - Breckenridge
   e. Leadership - Attacking Lincoln
   f. Experience - Breckenridge
   g. Leadership - Attacking Douglas
   h. Repeat d-g until the end of the campaign.  If Bell starts to get uppity, insert a Bell attack ad and then continue.

The moment an ad is ready, run it for the full seven days in every state.

4. The moment a scandal becomes available, leak it and spin it for all it's worth.  If someone else leaks a scandal on someone who isn't you, spin that one for all it's worth.  Do everything in your power to get a strong scandal on someone else at the top of headlines.  Make absolutely sure you are not the first person to get hit by a scandal.  If you are, you're probably screwed, because the other three will inevitably spin it up and put you into a freefall.  If you can get a large scandal on top of the headlines, the chances of you being hurt by a scandal go way down, as you can usually then spin it down unhindered (the people nearly always spin the biggest scandal, I've noticed).

5. Pray.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 30, 2005, 12:30:47 PM
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

No, I'm talking about winning the North with Bell.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2005, 09:43:57 PM
Yeah, I just won the entire South save for South Carolina with Bell.  I think it's safe to say that it's easier to do with Bell than it is with Lincoln.

No, I'm talking about winning the North with Bell.

Oh, I see.

Yeah, that's pretty hard, in that case.  I was ahead in a few northern states with a week and a bit to go, but that damn Lincoln shot me down at the last minute.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 02, 2006, 05:44:36 AM
2004 - Kerry vs. Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Badnarik

Winning states as Nader in 2004 is a heck of a lot harder than it is in 2000.  I finally succeeded!

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George W. Bush - 321 EVs - 43% PV
John Kerry - 203 EVs - 37% PV
Ralph Nader - 14 EVs - 17% PV
Michael Badnarik - 0 EVs - 2% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 02, 2006, 06:15:05 AM
2000 - Gore vs. Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Browne

I decided to concentrate all of my efforts onto heavily conservative Bush states in an effort to create a truly ridiculous map.

The effort succeeded more than I thought it would.

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Al Gore - 282 EVs - 42% PV
George W. Bush - 230 EVs - 32% PV
Ralph Nader - 26 EVs - 22% PV
Harry Browne - 0 EVs - 2% PV

Yes, that is a Gore victory in Alaska, Nader victories in Utah and Wyoming, and >50% Nader in Mississippi...

And no, I don't know what the heck happened with Massachusetts.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on January 08, 2006, 05:47:01 PM
So close, and yet so far...

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Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

Party-by-party

Socialist
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Democratic
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Republican
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Progressive
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on January 08, 2006, 06:04:19 PM
Nice game, Joe I-OH avatar user, but wasn't Alaska a bigger victory than the Utah victory?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on January 08, 2006, 06:05:52 PM
Nice game, Joe, but wasn't Alaska a bigger victory than the Utah victory?

Stop blindly assuming a person is someone because of their avatar ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 08, 2006, 06:31:35 PM
So close, and yet so far...

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Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on January 08, 2006, 06:38:35 PM
Arkansas probably would have been much higher for Debs.  It had a very strong progressive labor wing of the Democratic Party that, if Debs had been that popular nation-wide, could have gone for him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 09, 2006, 04:01:39 PM
So close, and yet so far...

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Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D
If only this could have really happened. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on January 09, 2006, 05:20:36 PM
So close, and yet so far...

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Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D
If only this could have really happened. :(

Yeah then America would have been ed.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 09, 2006, 05:24:46 PM
So close, and yet so far...

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Eugene Debs - 258 EV - 28% PV
Woodrow Wilson - 147 EV - 23% PV
Howard Taft - 102 EV - 26% PV
Theodore Roosevelt - 24 EV - 21% PV

I'm proud that Washington gave Debs his highest percentage. :D
If only this could have really happened. :(

Yeah then America would have been ed.
I would assume that the word that was censored was "sav"ed. ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on January 15, 2006, 02:10:37 PM
Another colourful map... I call it "1980: Attack of the third-party candidates". :D  I played with both Anderson and Clark and tried to weaken the two major candidates as hard as I could in sort of a coordinated attack. New Jersey was won by Clark, all other "green states" went to Anderson.



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Carter
PV: 32%
EV: 253

Reagan
PV: 32%
EV: 234

Anderson
PV: 19%
EV: 34

Clark
PV: 15%
EV: 17

Congress elected Carter President.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 17, 2006, 04:01:55 PM
'92:
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Clinton - 291 - 44%
Bush - 237 - 40%
Perot (Me) - 10 - 15%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on January 17, 2006, 09:36:32 PM
A new (and much more successful) attempt at 1992.

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Bush: 304 EV, 39%
Perot: 176 EV, 32%
Clinton: 58 EV, 27%

A power-20 scandal doesn't help Clinton.  [And, in conjunction with Perot's usual Southern Malaise, explains the ridiculous results down South].

California (and, as a result, the election), is decided by a knife's edge--9,405-vote difference between me and Bush.  Any little bit of activity on my part would have taken the state and thrown it to the house.

California, Ohio (within 2.5%) and Pennsylvania (within 4%) would give me the election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 18, 2006, 10:03:18 PM
My semi-successful shot at '92 as Perot

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I was still barely trailing (-1-3%) in all of my states with a week left, and I knew what I had to do: Ad crusade, so I owe my electoral victories to it, but beside that, everything was all me. ^_^

Clinton: 303; 38%; 42,070,324

Bush: 218; 39%; 43,035,689

Perot (me): 17; 21%; 23,493,333

Marrou: 0; 1%; 1,107,244

My best state was Alaska (42.7%) Clinton's was DC (73%) and Bush's was Virginia (51.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 18, 2006, 10:49:59 PM
I decided to try my hand at 1992.

1992 - Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot (me)

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H. Ross Perot - 493 EVs - 54% PV
George H. W. Bush - 33 EVs - 23% PV
Bill Clinton - 12 EVs - 22% PV

This game isn't even a challenge anymore when playing as candidates who had any sort of chance in real life.

I got 43.4% of the vote in DC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 18, 2006, 11:53:33 PM
1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan (me)

Just for fun, I decided to play as Reagan.  It wasn't pretty.

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Ronald Reagan - 538 EVs - 75% PV
Walter Mondale - 0 EVs - 24% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on January 19, 2006, 01:28:12 AM
Gabu,

Can you win as Wallace in '68?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 19, 2006, 02:11:39 AM

I tried once and got around 220 electoral votes.  I can certainly try again, if you'd like me to, however. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 19, 2006, 02:54:07 AM
Well, that went well.

1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

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George Wallace - 307 EVs - 42% PV
Hubert Humphrey - 153 EVs - 30% PV
Richard Nixon - 79 EVs - 26% PV

I hope you enjoyed that, States. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 19, 2006, 06:20:20 PM
Ultimate 2008:
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Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on January 19, 2006, 06:48:51 PM
How the hell do you do that Gabu. That's crazy!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on January 19, 2006, 07:02:55 PM
My try as Faubus in 1952
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Stevenson: 271; 48%; 38,148,496
Eisenhower: 260; 45%; 35,901,062
Faubus (me): 0; 5%; 4,127,884
Decker: 0; 0%; 736,739

While I wasnt able to win a state, I did have enough effect to flip a Stevenson victory. (amazing, isnt it?)

My best state: Pennsylvania: 8.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on January 19, 2006, 10:26:57 PM
can someone play me in a past election.. maybe in 1992 as bush....


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ?????????? on January 20, 2006, 01:10:32 AM
Well, that went well.

1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

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George Wallace - 307 EVs - 42% PV
Hubert Humphrey - 153 EVs - 30% PV
Richard Nixon - 79 EVs - 26% PV

I hope you enjoyed that, States. :)

What happened in Florida?

Ultimate 2008:
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Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%


What in the world is up with Alabama?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 20, 2006, 03:31:08 AM
How the hell do you do that Gabu. That's crazy!

This is my strategy, if you want to try reproducing it:

1. Start researching a leadership scandal for your biggest opponent.  If you succeed, then either start researching one for your next biggest opponent if you have more than one or start researching an integrity scandal for your opponent if not.  Continue researching as many as you can get.  In the second to last week, release the weaker scandal, if you have more than one.  In the last week, release the biggest scandal.  If you somehow manage to get three, release the third with a week and a half to go.

2. Start making ads immediately and aim to have four by about three and a half weeks remaining.  If you have one opponent, make a leadership and experience one both for yourself and attacking your opponent.  If you have two, make the same for yourself, but make two leadership ones, one attacking each of your opponents.  If you have three, make a leadership one for you and leadership ones attacking all three of your opponents.  Once you're at about three and a half weeks to go, run all four ads in twenty-five states, beginning with the first state in which the difference is less than +10 and going on down the list until you've reached twenty-five.  Run the ads until you've used half of your money (keep more than half if running it for one extra day will take it to less than half).  Halt the ads.  Then, in the last week, set the ads to twenty-five states again according to the same criteria and calculate how many days you can run them for without running out of money.  Run it when you have that many days plus one remaining.  Then, with one day to go, run the ads in all fifty states.  If you're not at least fifteen million dollars in debt the next day, you didn't do the ad stuff right (in 2004, that is - augment this for the year you're in).

3. Do absolutely nothing with your CPs for the first few days until you've gotten endorsements from every single organization that gives you a momentum boost.

4. Spin with a 100% success rate (or the closest you can get) absolutely any negative news story on your opponent power 3 or higher.

5. If you have at least 3 CPs free on any given turn, use them to attack the opponent with the highest momentum on whatever is the hottest topic of the day.  Don't bother making any positive speeches.  Negative speeches have at least twice as much likelihood of making the news.

The basic idea is to start off with a bang to get yourself some early momentum, then blast the place with an ad blitz for a short while, which will handily solidify all of the close states leaning towards you and slice off all of the close states leaning away from you.  Then in the last week, the same thing occurs, and then the 50-state ad blitz gets you huge momentum nationwide, which can often produce a surprisingly strong result.


Dunno.  Both candidates performed better there than anywhere else in the South.

I could also ask why the heck Massachusetts decided to vote for Wallace. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2006, 03:27:07 PM
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Ultimate 2008:
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Allen/Santorum (Me) - 318 - 47%
Obama/Warner? - 220 - 47%
Gray - 3%
LeMarche - 1%


What in the world is up with Alabama?

I don't know what happened.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 21, 2006, 07:37:46 PM
2004:
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Johnson (GOP) - 129 - 30%
Williams (DEM) - 3 - 21%
Smith (ME IND) - 406 - 47%

Ok so I made Johnson a terrible (all 1s) extreme (all right) right-winger.
Williams a terrible (all 1s) extreme (all left) left-winger.
Smith a wonderful (all 5s) extreme (all centrist) centrist.

I used Gabu's method and it worked wonders. Thanks a ton.

I hope people understand what I wrote whenever I was talking about all right and left.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 21, 2006, 10:53:55 PM
I used Gabu's method and it worked wonders. Thanks a ton.

Glad to hear I have my first satisfied customer. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 21, 2006, 11:08:27 PM
1960 - Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon

This one was fun.

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John F. Kennedy - 507 EVs - 69% PV
Richard Nixon - 30 EVs - 29% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on January 21, 2006, 11:12:41 PM
1960 - Kennedy (me) vs. Nixon

This one was fun.

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John F. Kennedy - 507 EVs - 69% PV
Richard Nixon - 30 EVs - 29% PV

What did you do to piss off Mayor Daley? Joking.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sarnstrom on January 21, 2006, 11:52:34 PM
I was inspired. Unfortunately, this election was rather uninspiring.

Sam Brownback/Rick Santorum
Me - John Lynch/Russ Feingold
Michael Badnarik/Barry Hess
Pat LaMarche/Matt Gonzalez

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Do you like that scenario?....I made it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 22, 2006, 02:33:42 AM
I decided to download that scenario of Sarnstrom's. :)

2008 - Clinton (me) vs. Giuliani

You have no chance to survive make your time.

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Hillary Clinton - 538 EVs - 66% PV
Rudy Giuliani - 0 EVs - 33% PV

Clinton got 92.2% of the vote in DC.  The closest state was Alabama, which Clinton won 52.2%-47.7%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 22, 2006, 02:43:05 AM
What did you do to piss off Mayor Daley? Joking.

I don't know. :)  I found it kind of ironic that one of the states pivotal to Kennedy's win in real life voted against him in a gigantic landslide...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on January 22, 2006, 02:47:38 AM
I decided to download that scenario of Sarnstrom's. :)

2008 - Clinton (me) vs. Giuliani

You have no chance to survive make your time.

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Hillary Clinton - 538 EVs - 66% PV
Rudy Giuliani - 0 EVs - 33% PV

Clinton got 92.2% of the vote in DC.  The closest state was Alabama, which Clinton won 52.2%-47.7%.

HILLARY SMASH


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 22, 2006, 02:57:08 AM

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RAAAAAAAAAAARGH


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on January 23, 2006, 07:53:45 PM
So I ran as Santorum for the PA Senate Seat versus Casey and some third party candidates. Results:

Santorum (Me) - 51%
Casey (Dem) - 41%
Pennachio (Ind) - 4%
Diamond (Lib) - 2%

1912mm:

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Taft (ME) - 286 - 36%
Wilson - 118 - 24%
Roosevelt - 72 - 21%
Debs - 55 - 18%

Debs is not an option on the EC Calculator so I just gave the state to the next highest player, but he won Massachusetts, Ohio, and Kentucky.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: nini2287 on February 09, 2006, 12:59:42 AM
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Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on February 09, 2006, 03:24:11 PM
Reagan vs. Clinton vs. Anderson (Me) vs. Clark

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Reagan: 28% PV 149 EV
Carter: 35% PV 273 EV
Anderson: 23% PV 116 EV
Clark: 12% PV 0 EV

Best States:

Reagan: Texas 49.3%
Carter: West Virginia 61.4%
Anderson: Ohio 51.7%
Clark: Virginia 32.7%

Worst State:

Reagan: Rhode Island 15.2%
Carter: Colorado 14.0%
Anderson: Mississippi 8.2%
Clark: 0.0% (911)

Oddest State:

New Jersey

Reagan: 22.8%
Carter: 28.4%
Anderson: 28.2%
Clark: 20.4%

Clark had over 30% in three states, Kansas, South Carolina and Virginia and over 20% in 9 states, Colorado, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Missouri, Indiana, Mississippi, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on February 10, 2006, 08:51:57 PM
Accidentally closed the window before recording anything else, but look how I did as Thurmond >_< Sooooo close and yet so far >_<

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on March 31, 2006, 04:25:50 PM
I wanted to create a super-independent and see how well I could do. To give myself any sort of chance I did this: Gave Mr. John SMith 5s on everything and something like 300 million USD. Then I let Kerry and Bush plunge themselves into the most negative campaign in human history focusing only on tearing each other apart. Both were shocked by severe scandals, the worse being Bush power 20 which dragged on for a long time. Kerry held a brief lead with 300+ EVs after a while, but then lost ground constantly towards the end. On election day:

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Bush: 33.5% and 159 EVs
Kerry: 30.51% and 32 EVs
Smith: 35.99% and 347 EVs

Best states:

Bush:
Utah (47.1%)
Idaho (44.8%)
Wyoming (44.7%)
Alabama (43.5%)
Oklahoma (42.9%)

Kerry:
Massachusetts (40.2%)
Rhode Island (40.1%)
Vermont (38%)
Maryland (36%)
New York (36.4%)

Smith:
Arkansas (38.7%)
Tennessee (38.4%)
Lousiana (38.2%)
Illinois (37.9%)
Ohio (37.6%)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 31, 2006, 05:08:16 PM

How did you manage to win 347 electoral votes and yet not get over 40% in a single state?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on April 02, 2006, 01:56:23 PM
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Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though
This map pretty much proves PresidentForever is worthless beyond one dimensional left-right politics.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 03, 2006, 03:23:40 PM
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Joe Libertarian (R-NH)/Cheney 296 EV 47%
Dan Populist (D-WV)/Gephardt 242 EV 47% (won PV by 500,000)

I played as Nader and did nothing all campaign.  Both candidates were extreme on every issue.  I'm not sure how the Libertarian won AR by 17 points though
This map pretty much proves PresidentForever is worthless beyond one dimensional left-right politics.

No it's just that in the 2004 scenario the state position on issues, which is used when regionalism is turned on, is way off but if you set it towards more realistic positions, they have the south way too right wing and the Pacific Coast way too left wing, IIRC, then you can get a realistic map. The problems with it are mostly caused by the 80soft guys, and the creators of some of the other scenarios, being rather ignorant of politics.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on April 04, 2006, 12:53:04 AM
Colin, how'd you fix that problem then?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on April 05, 2006, 05:29:37 PM
Colin, how'd you fix that problem then?

I went into the scenarios folder than clicked on the 2004 folder then opened the regional_centers file within the scenario folder. It then opens a text file that includes each state and its position on each issue ranging from 1, far left, to 5, far right.

As an example Alabama originally had Abortion at 3, which is the moderate stance, and free trade at 4, centre-right pro-free trade stance, both of which I thought were wrong. So I made Abortion a 4, only under special circumsatnces, and made free trade a 2, which is about protecting certain industries or something like that, since I thought that they made more sense. You have to go through all the states and do this manually though. If you want me to I can send over a copy of the file for you. It really does make the South more realistic so you don't have Joe Libertarian winning Arkansas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 14, 2006, 02:03:55 PM
1948 as Wallace


Red: Truman
Blue: Dewey
Dark Green: Thurmond
Light Green: Wallace


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Dewey
PV: 33%
EV: 263

Truman
PV: 29%
EV: 151

Thurmond
PV: 16%
EV: 72

Wallace
PV: 20%
EV: 45


Congress elected Truman


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 15, 2006, 10:12:19 AM
Nader vs. Nolan


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Nader (me)
PV: 51%
EV: 270

Nolan
PV: 48%
EV: 268


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 15, 2006, 01:31:21 PM
1992 as Perot ("The Power of Perot" scenario)


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Perot
PV: 38%
EV: 310

Clinton
PV: 32%
EV: 114

Bush
PV: 27%
EV: 114


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on April 15, 2006, 03:31:56 PM
Had some time on your hands lately, Old Europe? :)


j/k, they look good. Ive been playing alot lately too, but sadly, havent had anything strange or impressive enough to post recently.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on April 15, 2006, 07:46:29 PM
j/k, they look good. Ive been playing alot lately too, but sadly, havent had anything strange or impressive enough to post recently.

You should post anyway; I like looking at results. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 16, 2006, 02:03:53 PM
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I tweaked the 1948 scenario to closer resemble actual results and played as Thurmond to see how it would play out. The way I played was basically focusing on running an anti-Truman campaign in the South to see how far I could get there. I ran out of money towards the end, partially because I foolishly campaigned in my safe states, trying to drive up the base. I haven't managed to fix the vote numbers yet, they're messed up, but:

Dewey: 43%, 283 EVs
Truman: 40% 199 EVs
Thurmond: 19%, 49 EVs
Wallace: 3%, 0 EVs

Closest states:
Tennessee, Truman over Dewey by 0.7%
Georgia, Truman over Thurmond by 1.7%
Pennsylvania, Dewey over Truman by 1.8%

Most other states weren't really close. I got:

Virginia: 42.6%
Louisiana: 64.6%
Alabama: 79.6%
South Carolina: 85.9%
Mississippi: 93.6%





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 16, 2006, 02:07:11 PM

How did you manage to win 347 electoral votes and yet not get over 40% in a single state?

Well, that's what happens when you run a focused campaign and have no core constituency. Pushing the Bush+Kerry total below 60% is pretty much impossible, I'm afraid.

Colin, please, please send me that file. I've been noticing the same thing but haven't had the time to fix it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on April 16, 2006, 02:09:42 PM
1912, I played as Debs

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Taft (light red) 18% (10,691,133) 16 electoral

Wilson (dark red) 29% (16,708,805) 181 electoral

Roosevelt (blue) 29% (16,794,170) 182 electoral

Debs (Green) 23% (13,285,073) 152 electoral

Congress elected.............................
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Woodrow Wilson (suprise suprise :P)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on April 16, 2006, 02:46:56 PM
Kennedy pwnt

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Election of 1960:
Nixon: 509 EV; 56%
Kennedy: 28 EV; 41%
Faubus: 0 EV; 1%

No cheats were used.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 16, 2006, 03:21:36 PM
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Tweaked the populations of Dixie to make it more realistic and focused my campaign more on Dixie:

Dewey: 44%, 266 EVs
Truman: 44%, 170 EVs
Thurmond: 8%, 95 EVs
Wallace: 2%, 0 EVs

(Dewey won the PV by 270 000 votes)

The decisive state was Iowa, which Dewey won by less than 1500 votes, 47.7% v 47.6%

Thurmond's closest win was North Carolina, by around 8%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on April 16, 2006, 05:22:44 PM
A rather disappointing game as Anderson (vs. Reagan vs. Carter, 1980).

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Sorry, closed down window before taking down results.  I know I got ~20% PV, and Carter won.

Rep %s:

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Dem %s:

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Ind %s:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on April 16, 2006, 05:54:38 PM
Best I've done as Anderson is win two states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 17, 2006, 05:57:16 AM
Bush/Cheney vs. Kucinich/Dean :D :D :D


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Kucinich
PV: 60%
EV: 515

Bush
PV: 34%
EV: 23


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 17, 2006, 06:35:47 AM
Powell/Rice vs. Kucinich/Dean


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Kucinich
PV: 56%
EV: 498

Powell
PV: 38%
EV: 40


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 17, 2006, 03:26:06 PM
1992: Pat Buchanan/Pat Robertson vs. Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey vs. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (me)


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Perot (I)
PV: 33%
EV: 265

Brown (D)
PV: 37%
EV: 261

Buchanan (R)
PV: 27%
EV: 12


Congress elected Brown


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 25, 2006, 08:33:25 PM
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Played as Truman this time. Tried to focus on the North, which went pretty well. Dewey kept gaining on me but towards the end I won the debates, got my ads going and picked up steam. I was hit by 3 or 4 scandals but could spin most of them away. I had solid leads in Michigan, Ohio and Illinois going into election day. New York and California were tossups. I dominated most other states so I was pretty confident. Dewey mostly over-performed, winning CA, NY and MI but that still wasn't enough.

Truman: 47% 358 EVs
Dewey: 41% 135 EVs
Thurmond: 8% 38 EVs
Wallace: 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 25, 2006, 09:25:46 PM
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Played as Truman again. This time I increased Truman's stamina and charisma but lowered his overall support by 2%, so as to make it closer to the real-life Truman come-back. I also decreased Thurmond's funding and gave Wallace the equal amount, to make things more fair between the two. The campaign mostly went like before, but a lot better for me. Dewey was hit by a scandal that eventually reached level 12. I was damaged a lot too though by scandals.

Truman: 48%, 388 EVs
Dewey: 35%, 105 EVs
Thurmond: 6%, 38 EVs
Wallace: 8%, 0 EVs

Best states:

Thurmond:
Mississippi: 92.9%
Alabama: 86.2%
South Carolina: 79.2%
Louisiana: 60.3%

Truman:
Oklahoma: 66.3%
Texas: 62.5%
New Mexico: 60.5%
Massachusetts: 60.1%

Dewey:
Vermont: 60.1%
Maine: 58.2%
South Dakota: 57.1%
Wisconsin: 56.2%

Wallace:
California: 20.7%
Montana: 15.1%
New YOrk: 14.4%
Virginia: 14%
Florida: 13.7%

Closest state:
Tennessee:
Truman: 35.5%
Thurmond: 34.8%
Dewey: 18.7%
Wallace: 10.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2006, 12:02:58 AM
I played as both Truman and Dewey to make things intereresting. Both candidates ran very negative campaigns. They won one debate each. Truman got his ads out first and held Dewey below 50 EVs, but then ran out of money. Dewey then struck back, conquering most of the nation in turn. Truman then clawed his way back slowly, slowly until this was the election day map:

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Election night started out well for Dewey with a better than expected result in Indiana and winning both IN and KY.

Next came another strong Dewey result in FLorida followed by Truman's first win, in Georgia. South Carolina went surprisingly strongly for Thurmond, New Hampshire was too close to call. The rest to Dewey. North Carolina was another good pick'up for Dewey, while Ohio was too close to call. Truman fans were happy about the close to 70% result in WV.

CT and DE were two more big Dewey wins, but then came an unexpectedly large Truman win in IL - a big set-back for the Dewey camp. In yet another blow Truman carried Pennsylvania. But there were consolations too. Dewey surprisingly stole Truman's home state Missouri by a whole 5 points. Thurmond broke 80% in Mississippi, again over-performing.

Truman rolled on, picking up Arkansas next.

But the next batch was good news for Dewey. With New York, Colorado and Arizona too close to call, he won Minnesota by a land-slide,  a state thought to lean Truman. He also managed strong showings in the Dakotas, Nebraska and Kansas, all thought to be vulnerable.

Otherwise, things went as expected, Dewey did surprisingly well in Nevada, breaking 50% but the rest of the states were dull.

Dewey supporters took a deeo breath of relief after California opted by a clear margin for their candidate, 7.2%. Oregon and Washington were the awaited big Truman wins.

New Hampshire was now called for Truman, a major shock. But only minutes later Ohio is called for Dewey. The two are now neck to neck. Next Arizona is called for Truman. Dewey will need New York to win an electoral majority. When Colorado is called for Dewey it becomes clear that Truman can no longer win the election. But as New York is finally declared as Truman 46.3%, Dewey 44.3% and Wallace 8.7% the election is over.

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Truman: 47%, 263 EVs
Dewey: 45%, 230 EVs
Thurmond: 4%, 38 EVs
Wallace: 3%

Congress elects Truman.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on April 26, 2006, 03:41:18 AM
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Played as myself. My leadership of 2 is always a bother, but this time things went smoothly. I couldn't afford polling so I had no idea of what my strategy should be.

Lundgren: 49%, 356 EVs
Bush: 47%, 182 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on April 26, 2006, 03:33:57 PM
Gustaf can you play me in 1992?(Perot's party)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on April 29, 2006, 03:25:14 PM
I'm very proud of myself. I ran a PA Governor 2006 scenario as Russ Diamond, according to Rasmussen's new results and got this:


Russ Diamond (I) [Me]-38% (Winner)

Ed Rendell (D)-38%

Lynn Swan (R)-24%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 30, 2006, 09:02:39 AM
2000: McCain (me) vs. Gore


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McCain
PV: 52%
EV: 344

Gore
PV: 46%
EV: 194


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 30, 2006, 11:02:26 AM
An odd-looking map for the "The Wedge - 2008" scenario:


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Bob Kerrey / Christine Whitman (Progressive)
PV: 38%
EV: 274

Bill Frist / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 31%
EV: 233

Hillary Clinton / Bill Richardson (Democratic)
PV: 29%
EV: 31


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 30, 2006, 11:31:00 AM
Apparently, a three-party system would indeed produce odd maps.

"The Driver - 2012" scenario:


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Christine Whitman / Lincoln Chafee (Progressive)
PV: 39%
EV: 304

Lindsey Graham / Bob Taft (Republican)
PV: 28%
EV: 170

Barack Obama / John Edwards (Democratic)
PV: 27%
EV: 64

Bob Jones / Tamara Millay (Independent)
PV: 4%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 30, 2006, 11:59:33 AM
"Third-Party Battle"


Red = Nader
Blue = Badnarik
Dark Green = Cobb
Light Green = Peroutka


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Cobb (me)
PV: 28%
EV: 275

Nader
PV: 26%
EV: 116

Badnarik
PV: 25%
EV: 94

Peroutka
PV: 20%
EV: 53


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 03, 2006, 10:39:18 AM
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I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

Reagan: 44%, 412 EVs
Carter: 38%, 117 EVs
Anderson: 16%, 9 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 03, 2006, 11:40:18 AM
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Edwards: 55%, 467 EVs
Bush: 40%, 71 EVs
Rest: 2%, 0 EVs

Edwards Best states:

Massachusetts: 70.1%
Vermont: 67.6%
Rhode Island: 67.5%
New York: 64.8%
Pennsylvania: 64.8%

Bush Best states:
Utah: 63.5%
Idaho: 62.7%
Alabama: 60.7%
Nebraska: 57.1%
Alaska: 57.0%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 03, 2006, 03:01:15 PM
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This is something I had wanted to do for a long time. I basically pitched my 2 generic candidates (centre-right and centre-left respectively on all issues, same chraracteristics, etc) against each other and made their electoral strategies the exact opposite of what it should be. I wanted to see how well you could do on your opponent's home ground if that was all you focused on.

Smith (R): 49%, 281 EVs
Struan (D): 47%, 257 EVs
Nader: 1%
Badnarik: 1%

Best Smith states:

New Jersey: 56.7%
Hawaii: 56.6%
Rhode Island: 55.8%
Illinois: 55.6%
Massachusetts: 55.5%

Best Struan States:

DC: 62.0%
Florida: 55.9%
Ohio: 55.8%
Missouri: 55.5%
Colorado: 54.7%

CLosest states:

Nebraska: Smith by 0.6%
Oklahoma: Struan by 1.1%
South Dakota: Struan by 1.3%
Arkansas: Struan by 1.7%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 03, 2006, 03:01:57 PM
I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

I don't know about Ilikeverin, but this is my third-party strategy that I posted a while back, which works pretty well (I always win at least one state, even as someone like Nader):

1. Pick a few low-population states that all lean in one direction (i.e., they are either all Republican or all Democratic).  The reason for this is that advertising costs are proportional to the population of the state.

2. Start making ads in this sequence:

  a. Leadership - You
  b. Leadership - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean
  c. Experience - You
  d. Experience - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean

If integrity becomes more important than any of these two issues, swap that in for whichever one of the two is less important than integrity.

3. Start researching a scandal on the candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean.

4. Use all available PP and CP to get every single endorsement, especially the ones that give you money.

5. Once all endorsements are received, do nothing but fundraising.

6. Run all ads in as many states as you can while still having some money left the day before election day.

7. Ensure that you have 4 ads the day before election day.  Run all four of them in all 50 states + DC the day before election day.

8. Hope for a good outcome.  I routinely get above 20% of the popular vote.  If you aren't roughly $20 million in the hole on election day, you didn't do it right.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 05, 2006, 03:55:20 PM
I don't know how Verin does it, that's for sure...

I don't know about Ilikeverin, but this is my third-party strategy that I posted a while back, which works pretty well (I always win at least one state, even as someone like Nader):

1. Pick a few low-population states that all lean in one direction (i.e., they are either all Republican or all Democratic).  The reason for this is that advertising costs are proportional to the population of the state.

2. Start making ads in this sequence:

  a. Leadership - You
  b. Leadership - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean
  c. Experience - You
  d. Experience - Attacking candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean

If integrity becomes more important than any of these two issues, swap that in for whichever one of the two is less important than integrity.

3. Start researching a scandal on the candidate towards whom the states in part 1 lean.

4. Use all available PP and CP to get every single endorsement, especially the ones that give you money.

5. Once all endorsements are received, do nothing but fundraising.

6. Run all ads in as many states as you can while still having some money left the day before election day.

7. Ensure that you have 4 ads the day before election day.  Run all four of them in all 50 states + DC the day before election day.

8. Hope for a good outcome.  I routinely get above 20% of the popular vote.  If you aren't roughly $20 million in the hole on election day, you didn't do it right.

Well, that is basically my strategy as well. I guess the problem is that I'm used to trying to win all the time...with Perot I usually campaigned on Leadership/Perot, Integrity/Attacking Clinton and Issue Familiarity/Attacking Bush. I first made a Highly Successfull ad for myself and then varied between attack ads and so on, constantly focusing on my electoral strategy. Usually works pretty well.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 05, 2006, 05:39:58 PM
Well, that is basically my strategy as well. I guess the problem is that I'm used to trying to win all the time...with Perot I usually campaigned on Leadership/Perot, Integrity/Attacking Clinton and Issue Familiarity/Attacking Bush. I first made a Highly Successfull ad for myself and then varied between attack ads and so on, constantly focusing on my electoral strategy. Usually works pretty well.

The main idea with people like Anderson is that you can't win, so you might as well not even try.  I never make any speeches or anything like that.  I just fundraise and blast a select group of states with ads.  That's it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 07, 2006, 08:09:24 AM
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Tried more of Gabu's strategy. Didn't work all that well though.

Reagan: 45% 421 EVs
Carter: 36% 113 EVs
Adnerson: 17% 4 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 08, 2006, 01:39:45 PM
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Tried more of Gabu's strategy. Didn't work all that well though.

Reagan: 45% 421 EVs
Carter: 36% 113 EVs
Adnerson: 17% 4 EVs

I unfortunately would probably have to see exactly what you're doing to comment further, so I'm not sure what to say other than that it does work for me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jokerman on May 08, 2006, 06:28:16 PM
Gabu, what happened to our tournament?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 08, 2006, 07:17:10 PM

Yes, yes, I haven't forgotten about it... I suppose I kind of let it slip due to being busy, and given how long ago the last installment was put forth, I suppose I figured people weren't interested anymore.

I'll get to it when I get access to the internet at home, which should probably be tomorrow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 11, 2006, 07:32:22 AM
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)                                                                                                                          Adjusted the 2000 scenario (Gore v Republicans) to more real-life and played as both. THere was just no way GOre could resist Bush's ads though. He also got hit by a scandal and recovered just a little by election day.                                                                                                                      Bush: 50%, 450 EVs                                                                                                                   Gore: 39%, 88 EVs, Nader: 3%, Buchanan: 6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 19, 2006, 03:53:58 PM
I chrushed Kennedy as Nixon:

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Nixon: 62%, 514 EVs
Kennedy: 35%, 23 EVs
Faubus: 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on May 19, 2006, 06:05:13 PM
can someone play me as someone?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: George W. Hobbes on May 20, 2006, 01:45:49 AM
I chrushed Kennedy as Nixon:

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Nixon: 62%, 514 EVs
Kennedy: 35%, 23 EVs
Faubus: 1%

Why Georgia, why?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 20, 2006, 05:14:28 PM
(Image Link)

Me: 501 EVs, 58%
Bush: 37 EVs, 38%
Nader: 2%
Badnarik: 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on May 22, 2006, 05:22:51 PM

We've done this about 20 times. Look back through this thread. It's been done before. If you are so enthralled about running yourself as a candidate I suggest that you buy the game and edit yourself in as a candidate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 23, 2006, 09:41:56 AM
Now that's an odd-looking Kerry vs. Bush map...


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Kerry
PV: 50%
EV: 282

Bush
PV: 43%
EV: 256


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 27, 2006, 09:01:54 AM
Another Bush vs. Kerry map:


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Kerry
PV: 52%
EV: 397

Bush
PV: 39%
EV: 141


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 27, 2006, 09:45:52 AM
Edwards/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney:


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Edwards
PV: 50%
EV: 320

Bush
PV: 45%
EV: 218


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 27, 2006, 10:18:40 AM
Well, it's getting a bit unrealistic now (I mean, more than usual). *lol*


Dean/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney

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Dean
PV: 54%
EV: 405

Bush
PV: 39%
EV: 133


I'll tell you when I get tired of beating Bush. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 28, 2006, 08:49:50 AM
Obama/Clark vs. McCain/Giuliani ("Purple Reign" scenario)


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Obama
PV: 49%
EV: 313

McCain
PV: 43%
EV: 225

Nader
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Badnarik
PV: 1%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 28, 2006, 10:55:36 AM
Clark/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney


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Clark
PV: 49%
EV: 329

Bush
PV: 44%
EV: 209


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on May 28, 2006, 08:11:51 PM
Obama/Clark vs. McCain/Giuliani ("Purple Reign" scenario)


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Obama
PV: 49%
EV: 313

McCain
PV: 43%
EV: 225

Nader
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Badnarik
PV: 1%
EV: 0

That is the weirdest map I've ever seen.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 28, 2006, 08:55:43 PM
I just killed the Reagan Revolution in te 1984 scenario.

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Walter Mondale/Geraldine Ferraro (me) - 64% - 519 EVs
Ronald Reagan/George Bush - 33% - 19 EVs
Lyndon LaRoache/Billy Davis - 0%
Bergland - 1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on May 29, 2006, 08:23:46 AM
Obama/Clark vs. McCain/Giuliani ("Purple Reign" scenario)


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Obama
PV: 49%
EV: 313

McCain
PV: 43%
EV: 225

Nader
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Badnarik
PV: 1%
EV: 0

That is the weirdest map I've ever seen.

Yeah, true.

But check out the description of the "Purple Reign" scenario:
"Starting with the 2006 midterms, the country reversed the partisan trends of the previous two elections. There are no longer any "Red States" or "Blue States". The entire country has turned Purple. As such all 50 states are in play for both parties. Also, there is NO Regionalism in this scenario."


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 29, 2006, 09:32:30 AM
I just played the 2000 scenario as Al Gore. (No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon). I've determined that just about anyone in Gore's situation could have won the 00' election. I did with no whining and Nader at 5% of the vote. In other words, no challenge at all.

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Gore/Lieberman (me) - 51% - 384 EVs
Bush/Cheney - 41% - 154 EVs
Nader/LaDuke - 5%
Browne/Oliver - 1%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on May 29, 2006, 02:48:04 PM
(No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon).

Joooooiiinnnnnn uuuuuusssss.......
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on May 30, 2006, 07:02:37 AM
I just played the 2000 scenario as Al Gore. (No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon). I've determined that just about anyone in Gore's situation could have won the 00' election. I did with no whining and Nader at 5% of the vote. In other words, no challenge at all.

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Gore/Lieberman (me) - 51% - 384 EVs
Bush/Cheney - 41% - 154 EVs
Nader/LaDuke - 5%
Browne/Oliver - 1%



What scenario? Most scenarios (including the ones given in the original game) are heavily biased in favour of Democrats. I remember the Gore v Bush that used to exist was heavily biased in favour of Gore, for instance.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 30, 2006, 11:19:39 AM
I just played the 2000 scenario as Al Gore. (No, this doesn't mean that I am hopping on the Gore 08' bandwagon). I've determined that just about anyone in Gore's situation could have won the 00' election. I did with no whining and Nader at 5% of the vote. In other words, no challenge at all.

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Gore/Lieberman (me) - 51% - 384 EVs
Bush/Cheney - 41% - 154 EVs
Nader/LaDuke - 5%
Browne/Oliver - 1%



What scenario? Most scenarios (including the ones given in the original game) are heavily biased in favour of Democrats. I remember the Gore v Bush that used to exist was heavily biased in favour of Gore, for instance.
It's the "Bush vs. Gore" scenario. I don't see how it's slanted...considering that I started the game (as Gore) with 90 something electorals and 4 points back in the polls.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on May 31, 2006, 06:43:20 AM
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Ross Perot (me) - 37% - 361 EVs
George Bush -  32%- 123 EVs
Bill Clinton - 29% - 54 EVs
Andre Marrou - nearly a million votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gustaf on June 01, 2006, 07:41:23 AM
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Ross Perot (me) - 37% - 361 EVs
George Bush -  32%- 123 EVs
Bill Clinton - 29% - 54 EVs
Andre Marrou - nearly a million votes

Let me guess...dynamism?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on June 01, 2006, 12:45:41 PM
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Ross Perot (me) - 37% - 361 EVs
George Bush -  32%- 123 EVs
Bill Clinton - 29% - 54 EVs
Andre Marrou - nearly a million votes

Let me guess...dynamism?

Gotta love dynamism. Problem is you never get anything that looks at all realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 01, 2006, 04:21:01 PM
Actually no dynanism...just the ad cheat where when it gets to 1 day left you run like 134 ads and it drains your money but the game ends before it can penalize you.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on June 02, 2006, 09:11:50 AM
Another Edwards/Gephardt vs. Bush/Cheney map:


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Edwards
PV: 48%
EV: 275

Bush
PV: 46%
EV: 263


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Know Your Rights! on June 03, 2006, 11:22:02 PM
Giuliani/Allen
Warner/Bayh
Thompson/Phillies
Lamarche/Gonzalez

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I used as little ad cheat as possible, but I had a ton of states that were close so I went about a million over budget. I was within 3% in Virginia, Tennessee and Georgia. It was probably one of my best games ever IMO.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 04, 2006, 01:04:17 AM
Giuliani/Allen
Warner/Bayh
Thompson/Phillies
Lamarche/Gonzalez

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I used as little ad cheat as possible, but I had a ton of states that were close so I went about a million over budget. I was within 3% in Virginia, Tennessee and Georgia. It was probably one of my best games ever IMO.

I thought I might avenge Rudy, haha. I finished with 34 million left in the coffers and didn't use Dynanism.

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Rudy Giuliani - 62% - 515 EVs
Mark Warner - 35% - 23 EVs
Cobb - 2%

It's actually funny, Cobb did better in Utah than Warner did.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 04, 2006, 03:15:41 PM
Negative ad campaign, 4 crusaders, an assload of foot soldiers, and 3 high level scandals on my opponent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on June 04, 2006, 04:32:14 PM
Negative ad campaign, 4 crusaders, an assload of foot soldiers, and 3 high level scandals on my opponent.
You play with foot soldiers? IMO they're just a waste of CP.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on June 05, 2006, 02:16:58 PM
I watched this one happen, not doing anything, as Stern. This was the closest and most entertaining election Ive dealt with. It came down to Delaware, which was tied on election day...

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Gore/Rendell: 50% 270 electoral

Romney/Frist: 49% 268 electoral

Stern/Krawchuck: 1% 0 electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on June 05, 2006, 09:02:03 PM
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Top Dog 2008 scenario:

Sam Brownback/Pat Robertson - 253 EVs (40%)
Russ Feingold/Barrack Obama - 145 EVs (32%)
David Cobb/Pat LaMarche - 0 EVs (1%)
Donald Trump/Jesse Ventura - 140 EVs (25%)

And Congress selected... Donald Trump!

I ran as Cobb and did not intervene.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 06, 2006, 02:43:35 PM
I watched this one happen, not doing anything, as Stern. This was the closest and most entertaining election Ive dealt with. It came down to Delaware, which was tied on election day...

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Gore/Rendell: 50% 270 electoral

Romney/Frist: 49% 268 electoral

Stern/Krawchuck: 1% 0 electoral

How in hell did a Democrat win Nebraska?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on June 08, 2006, 09:18:30 AM
Immigration (2008) - (I just downloaded it off of 80soft.com)
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Allen/Frist - 117
Bayh/Warner - 305
Gilchrist/Baldwin - 116


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Defarge on June 12, 2006, 09:55:16 AM
When will the primaries update come out?  There have been no updates for awhile now :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on June 12, 2006, 01:22:39 PM
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Joe Lieberman/Richard Gephardt (me) - 48% - 306 EVs
John McCain/Chuck Hagel - 47% - 232 EVs
David Cobb/Pat LaMarche - 4% - 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on June 15, 2006, 11:13:22 AM
1960:
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Nixon (me) - 55%; 48+million votes; 514 EV
Kennedy - 40%; 34+ million votes; 15 EV
Byrd - 3%; Almost 3 million votes; 8 EV
Decker - 0%; Around 650,000 million votes; 0 EV

Wow!  It is like a sea of blue with two Christmas colors at the bottom and a red Rhode Island near the top.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on June 18, 2006, 11:09:50 PM
Decker -Around 650,000 million votes

650,000 million and he didnt get a single state? I find that hard to believe

650,000,000,000 seems lie a lot of votes to garner without a state, or even a percent.  :D :D :D:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on July 12, 2006, 01:51:35 PM
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Immigration Scenario

Allen/Frist- 90 EV, 34%
Bayh/Warner-328 EV, 43%
Gilchrist/Baldwin- 128 EV, 21%

I played as the Constitution Party.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 13, 2006, 11:07:36 AM
1980:

I had Reagan not run and played as Carter and did nothing. I had dynamism on and gave Ed Clark and John Anderson more money. Anderon is blue, Carter is red, and Clark is green.

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John Anderson (I): 39% 276 EVs 39,399,747
Jimmy Carter (D): 31% 119 EVs 31,411,282
Ed Clark (L): 29% 143 EVs 29,290,630

Best State:

Anderson: Maine 58.8%
Carter: Georgia 56.5%
Clark: Delaware 47.5%

Worst States:

Anderson: Delaware 22.2%
Carter: Idaho 20.1%
Clark: Pennsylvania 11.0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on July 14, 2006, 04:21:06 PM
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1992, Dynamism on.
Bush 177 EV, 30%
Clinton 285 EV, 42%
Perot 76 EV, 23%
Marrou 0 EV, 3%

I ran as Marrou and did nothing.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 16, 2006, 02:36:51 PM
This is from a scenario I made called Secession - 2012 which basically came from a discussion I had with Bono where we tried to imagine what the US would be like with a Quebec style seperatist party.

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Bill Owens (Republican): 37% 109 EVs
Evan Bayh (Democrat): 38% 250 EVs
Mike Easley (Southern National): 20% 179 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

Don't get on me about Easley wouldn't want secession either. It's my timeline and I can do what I want. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on July 16, 2006, 02:49:50 PM
This is from a scenario I made called Secession - 2012 which basically came from a discussion I had with Bono where we tried to imagine what the US would be like with a Quebec style seperatist party.

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Bill Owens (Republican): 37% 109 EVs
Evan Bayh (Democrat): 38% 250 EVs
Mike Easley (Southern National): 20% 179 EVs
Badnarik (Libertarian): 2% 0 EVs

Don't get on me about Easley wouldn't want secession either. It's my timeline and I can do what I want. :P

I like it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on July 16, 2006, 08:43:15 PM
Another game from the above scenario.

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Rick Santorum (R): 32% 49 EVs
Al Gore (D): 44% 318 EVs
Blanche Lincoln (SN): 21% 171 EVs
Badnarik (L): 1% 0 EVs

Best State:

Dem: New York 65.4%
Rep: Idaho 67.7%
SN: Mississippi 68.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on July 23, 2006, 05:41:28 AM
Bush/Cheney vs. Dean/Gephardt (dynamism off, no negative campaigning)


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Dean
PV: 47%
EV: 295

Bush
PV: 46%
EV: 243


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on July 28, 2006, 07:10:24 PM

Clinton wins Arizona?  McCain wins Maryland?  That's be interesting.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on August 22, 2006, 02:07:20 PM
Fun with Debs!

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Eugene Debs - 358 EV, 41% PV (23,677,538)
Howard Taft - 131 EV, 27% PV (15,874,066)
Woodrow Wilson - 30 EV, 17% PV (9,835,220)
Theodore Roosevelt - 12 EV, 13% PV (7,877,594)

I did an ad blitz strategy; 3 days of ads in the middle of the campaign, 3 days at the end.  Plus advertising in every state with every ad on the very last day, of course ;) Though FWIW I did win all the states that were in my strategy.  It didn't hurt that two scandals, on Wilson and Roosevelt (that weren't my work), were released shortly after my mid-season ad blitz.  The Roosevelt one was particularly fun, because after I and another candidate spun it it immediately became unspinnable and stood up at 12 power for a while :) (meanwhile the Wilson one became unspinnable after maybe a week and it too stayed quite high)

Candidate by candidate:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on August 24, 2006, 09:22:01 AM
Dean/Gephardt are narrowly winning the 2004 election... without having won Ohio or Florida. ;)


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Dean
PV: 47%
EV: 275

Bush
PV: 47%
EV: 263


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on August 31, 2006, 02:55:25 PM
2008:
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Me (R) - 464 - 56%
Dem - 74 - 43%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on August 31, 2006, 03:37:52 PM
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Bayh/Clinton - 369 (52.3%)

v

Allen/Huckabee - 169 (46.7%)

Won VA by 593 votes
Won OH by 3,204

Lost TN by 323
Lost FL by 864


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on September 05, 2006, 12:44:18 PM
Played as Gore against Bush in '04 scen. Weird, so I felt like posting.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on September 06, 2006, 06:16:23 PM
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Played as Dean against Bush in '04 scen. He won with 272 electoral votes, but lost the popular vote by 5%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on September 06, 2006, 08:05:01 PM
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I played as Bell.

Lincoln: 43 EV; 32%
Breckinridge: 45 EV; 16%
Douglas: 110 EV; 29%
Bell: 105 EV; 21%

The election was thrown to the House, who elected...

Douglas :( Ah well. Crazy map though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on September 07, 2006, 07:34:59 PM
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Another 1860 game, this time I played as Breckinridge.

Lincoln: 122 EV; 33%
Breckinridge: 127 EV; 28%
Douglas: 54 EV; 27%
Bell: 0 EV; 11%

The election was thrown to the Republican-controlled Congress, who elected Lincoln. If I had gotten 1% more of Lincoln's vote share in Pennsylvania, I would have won a majority in the Electoral College.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 10, 2006, 02:37:46 PM
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Another game with me running as a rich independent. Gotta love what a third party can do to an electoral map.

Bush: 36% 242 EVs
Kerry: 33% 121 EVs
Wixted: 26% 175 EVs
Nader: 3% 0 EVs

Best State:

Bush: Idaho 60.0%
Kerry: DC 63.2%, New Jersey 46.8%
Wixted: Tennesee 38.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Joel the Attention Whore on September 10, 2006, 03:07:28 PM
What a coincidence.  This game is actually quite realistic - realistic enough that I purchased this and spend a few days of class letting students run their campaigns.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 10, 2006, 03:23:29 PM
What a coincidence.  This game is actually quite realistic - realistic enough that I purchased this and spend a few days of class letting students run their campaigns.

Where do you teach at Joel?

Are you a college professor? If you are that'll make you are second, the other one is Texasgurl.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on September 11, 2006, 08:52:35 PM
1980: Playing as Jimmy Carter

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Carter/Mondale - 468 EVs - 48% PV
Reagan/Bush - 70 EVs - 37%
Anderson/Lucey - 0 EVs - 11%
Clark/Forgot - 0 EVs - 2%

It sucks, I had Reagan down to about 20 EVs and then one of those 9 power scandals broke.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 16, 2006, 04:26:19 AM
This was one of my most F'kd Up results.

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Bush/Cheney - 303 - 48.8%
Kerry/Edwards - 235 - 48.7%

Closest states were
- TN (R) by 342
- OH (R) by 695
- IA (D) by 876


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 16, 2006, 05:07:55 AM
My best result

1960

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Kennedy/Johnson - 503  59.5%
Nixon/Lodge - 23 - 36.2%
Byrd - 11 - 4.3% (national - in AL 35%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on September 24, 2006, 11:28:14 PM
Yay, I won as McGovern!

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on September 25, 2006, 01:23:17 PM

There is something I noticed was very odd about this scenario. Why does Washington start so lopsided?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on September 25, 2006, 05:29:54 PM

There is something I noticed was very odd about this scenario. Why does Washington start so lopsided?

They mixed up the Washington DC and the Washington state results in the electoral trends document.

Also its not that hard to win as McGovern. For some reason he is alot stronger in P4E than in real life, don't really know why. Damn Canadian hippie leftists at 80soft when are you going to learn anything about American politics?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: jerusalemcar5 on September 25, 2006, 07:21:16 PM
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1856.

Blue=Fremont, Red=Buchanan, Green=Fillmore

Pretty damn crazy, especially my win in SC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on September 25, 2006, 09:43:10 PM
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Won by Nixon:

Delaware - 36.2% Nixon, 35.7% Humphrey, 25% Clarke, 3% Wallace
Idaho - 37% Nixon, 32% Humphrey, 27% Clarke, 3% Wallace
Iowa - 33% Nixon, 30% Clarke, 23% Humphrey, 13% Wallace

Won by Humphrey:

Alaska - 41% Humphrey, 39% Nixon, 14% Clarke, 6% Wallace
Arizona - 41% Humphrey, 38% Nixon, 21% Clarke, 0% Wallace
California - 48% Humphrey, 39% Nixon, 13% Clarke, 0% Wallace
Colorado - 39% Humphrey, 32% Clarke, 28% Nixon, 1% Wallace
Connecticut - 38% Humphrey, 32% Clarke, 30% Nixon, 0% Wallace
District of Columbia - 50% Humphrey, 43% Clarke, 8% Nixon, 0% Wallace
Illinois - 39% Humphrey, 34% Nixon, 26% Clarke, 1% Wallace
New Mexico - 40% Humphrey, 38% Clarke, 22% Nixon, 0% Wallace

Won by Wallace:

Alabama - 49% Wallace, 26% Humphrey, 13% Clarke, 11% Nixon
Arkansas - 41% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 18% Humphrey, 11% Nixon
Florida - 32% Wallace, 27% Humphrey, 22% Clarke, 18% Nixon
Georgia - 38% Wallace, 28% Clarke, 25% Nixon, 8% Humphrey
Indiana - 32% Wallace, 25% Clarke, 24% Humphrey, 19% Nixon
Kentucky - 35% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 19% Nixon, 16% Humphrey
Louisiana - 50% Wallace, 31% Clarke, 13% Humphrey, 6% Nixon
Maryland - 34% Wallace, 30% Clarke, 19% Humphrey, 16% Nixon
Michigan - 29.47% Wallace, 29.03% Clarke, 22% Humphrey, 20% Nixon
Mississippi - 41% Wallace, 32% Clarke, 16% Nixon, 11% Humphrey
Montana - 28% Wallace, 27% Clarke, 25% Humphrey, 20% Nixon
North Carolina - 44% Wallace, 25% Clarke, 17% Humphrey, 14% Nixon
South Carolina - 42% Wallace, 27% Clarke, 16% Nixon, 15% Humphrey
Tennessee - 30.96% Wallace, 30.66% Clarke, 23% Nixon, 16% Humphrey

Won by Clarke:
Hawaii - 28% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 23% Humphrey, 22% Wallace
Kansas - 30.1% Clarke, 29.7% Nixon, 28% Humphrey, 12% Wallace
Maine - 33% Clarke, 31% Nixon, 21% Humphrey, 15% Wallace
Massachusetts - 41% Clarke, 40% Humphrey, 19% Nixon, 0% Wallace
Minnesota - 40% Clarke, 37% Humphrey, 23% Nixon, 1% Wallace
Missouri - 31% Clarke, 27% Wallace, 22% Nixon, 20% Humphrey
Nebraska - 44% Clarke, 29% Nixon, 17% Humphrey, 10% Wallace
Nevada - 36% Clarke, 33% Humphrey, 24% Nixon, 7% Wallace
NH - 43% Clarke, 36% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 1% Wallace
NJ - 38% Clarke, 35% Humphrey, 25% Nixon, 2% Wallace
NY - 42% Clarke, 37% Humphrey, 21% Nixon
ND - 35% Clarke, 28% Nixon, 19% Wallace, 19% Humphrey
OH - 35% Clarke, 26% Wallace, 20% Nixon, 19% Humphrey
OK - 48% Clarke, 26% Humphrey, 26% Nixon, 0% Wallace
OR - 37% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 21% Humphrey, 15% Wallace
PA - 50% Clarke, 26% Humphrey, 22% Nixon, 2% Wallace
RI - 52% Clarke, 30% Humphrey, 16% Nixon, 1% Wallace
SD - 47% Clarke, 25% Nixon, 24% Nixon, 5% Wallace
TX - 35% Clarke, 26% Wallace, 20% Nixon, 19% Humphrey
UT - 40% Clarke, 22% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 17% Wallace
VT - 56% Clarke, 27% Nixon, 17% Humphrey, 0% Wallace
VA - 31% Clarke, 26% Nixon, 23% Wallace, 20% Humphrey
WA - 48% Clarke, 24% Humphrey, 22% Nixon, 6% Wallace
WV - 34% Clarke, 30% Wallace, 19% Humphrey, 16% Nixon
WI - 45% Clarke, 30% Humphrey, 23% Nixon, 1% Wallace
WY - 48% Clarke, 23% Nixon, 20% Humphrey, 8% Wallace

Fiscal Conservative + Social Liberal + Anti War + Tons of Money = Victory with 32.6% of the vote!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on September 26, 2006, 01:14:40 PM
Fiscal Conservative + Social Liberal + Anti War + Tons of Money = Victory with 32.6% of the vote!

I assume by "tons of money" you mean enough to run ads in all 50 states plus  DC without any real penalty. Because that's the only way to have really accomplished this.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on October 22, 2006, 11:23:03 AM
The battle of the former four-star generals: Clark vs. Powell


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Wesley Clark / Dick Gephardt
PV: 45%
EV: 279

Colin Powell / Condoleezza Rice
PV: 49%
EV: 259


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on October 28, 2006, 09:51:06 AM
1968 as Wallace:


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George Wallace
PV: 26%
EV: 241

Richard Nixon
PV: 35%
EV: 173

Hubert Humphrey
PV: 37%
EV: 125


Congress elected Humphrey president.


The funny thing is that Wallace got the smallest Popular Vote, but the largest Electoral Vote of the three. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: True Democrat on October 30, 2006, 10:00:29 PM
Becuase in real life Wallace came extremely close to winning New Hampshire in  1968.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 30, 2006, 10:02:28 PM
Becuase in real life Wallace came extremely close to winning New Hampshire in  1968.

I've gotten crazier results as Wallace.  If you use ads effectively, your only limit in President Forever is the size of your wallet.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on October 30, 2006, 10:03:40 PM
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 30, 2006, 11:05:49 PM
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version

I like President Forever more so far, actually.  The duration of a campaign in PF+P is way too long; I'm too lazy to come up with a strategy that will actually work over that long a time period.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on October 30, 2006, 11:10:28 PM
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version

I like President Forever more so far, actually.  The duration of a campaign in PF+P is way too long; I'm too lazy to come up with a strategy that will actually work over that long a time period.


Can't break the game and get foolish results?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 31, 2006, 12:12:19 AM
now only if we could get a scenario and candidate editor on the new version

I like President Forever more so far, actually.  The duration of a campaign in PF+P is way too long; I'm too lazy to come up with a strategy that will actually work over that long a time period.

Can't break the game and get foolish results?

Not yet.  My PF strategy of saturating the entire nation with ads doesn't work at all well in PF+F and I haven't find another easy sure-fire strategy to replace it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on October 31, 2006, 03:10:31 AM
Decided to try something completely different:

2006 Pennsylvania - Casey (me) vs. Santorum vs. Pennachio vs. Diamond

()

Casey (D) - 59% PV
Santorum (R) - 35% PV
Pennachio (I) - 4% PV
Diamond (L) - 1% PV


Best regions:

Casey - Northeastern Pennsylvania - 65.7% (beating Pennsylvania by 0.1%)
Santorum - Central Pennsylvania - 55.8%
Pennachio - Philadelphia - 21.4% (Santorum came in third here)
Diamond - Southern Pennsylvania - 4.2%

Worst regions:

Casey - Central Pennsylvania - 39.1%
Santorum - Philadelphia - 11.9% (!)
Pennachio - Northwestern Pennsylvania - 0.0% (96 votes)
Diamond - Northeastern Pennsylvania - 0.0% (86 votes)

Closest region:

Northern Pennsylvania - Casey wins over Santorum by 5.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 11, 2006, 01:00:05 AM
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1912

I was Taft.

Results
William H. Taft-Republican 16,213,865 (28%) 88 Electoral Votes
Woodrow Wilson-Democratic 15,869,180 (27%) 199 Electoral Votes
Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt-Progressive 15,604,322 (27%) 231 Electoral Votes
Eugene V. Debs-Socialist (Moron Party) 9,787,175 (17%) 13 Electoral Votes

266 Needed to Win-Congress Chose Wilson

Wilson underperformed big time in the south, and Taft was close to him in most states (within 10 points)


Does anyone know the composition of the house delgations in Jan 1913? And if majority Republican, who do you think would have won?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 11, 2006, 01:16:19 AM
Does anyone know the composition of the house delgations in Jan 1913? And if majority Republican, who do you think would have won?

Here's the list of congressmen:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/63rd_United_States_Congress

I'm way too lazy to figure out the composition of each house delegation, though. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 11, 2006, 01:20:46 AM
Taft, in protest, then ate the electoral college.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 12, 2006, 08:56:47 PM
1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Douglas vs. Breckenridge vs. Bell

()

Lincoln (R): 226 EVs - 57% PV
Breckenridge (SD): 65 EVs - 13% PV
Bell (L): 12 EVs - 11% PV
Douglas (ND): 0 EVs - 18% PV

Best states:

Lincoln: Vermont - 88.5%
Breckenridge: South Carolina - 54.0%
Bell: Alabama - 38.3%
Douglas: New Jersey - 36.4%

Worst states:

Lincoln: Alabama - 12.2%
Breckenridge: Vermont - 0.0% (8 votes)
Bell: Minnesota - 0.0% (4 votes)
Douglas: Florida - 0.0% (2 votes)

5 closest states:

1. Virginia - Lincoln wins over Bell 30.7% - 29.6%
2. Kentucky - Breckenridge wins over Bell 30.3% - 29.8%
3. North Carolina - Lincoln wins over Breckenridge 34.0% - 32.1%
4. Arkansas - Breckenridge wins over Bell 40.3% - 37.7%
5. Tennessee - Bell wins over Lincoln 32.4% - 28.8%

Election summary:

lol, Virginia


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on November 12, 2006, 09:37:31 PM
1860 - Lincoln (me) vs. Douglas vs. Breckenridge vs. Bell

()

Lincoln (R): 226 EVs - 57% PV
Breckenridge (SD): 65 EVs - 13% PV
Bell (L): 12 EVs - 11% PV
Douglas (ND): 0 EVs - 18% PV

Best states:

Lincoln: Vermont - 88.5%
Breckenridge: South Carolina - 54.0%
Bell: Alabama - 38.3%
Douglas: New Jersey - 36.4%

Worst states:

Lincoln: Alabama - 12.2%
Breckenridge: Vermont - 0.0% (8 votes)
Bell: Minnesota - 0.0% (4 votes)
Douglas: Florida - 0.0% (2 votes)

5 closest states:

1. Virginia - Lincoln wins over Bell 30.7% - 29.6%
2. Kentucky - Breckenridge wins over Bell 30.3% - 29.8%
3. North Carolina - Lincoln wins over Breckenridge 34.0% - 32.1%
4. Arkansas - Breckenridge wins over Bell 40.3% - 37.7%
5. Tennessee - Bell wins over Lincoln 32.4% - 28.8%

Election summary:

lol, Virginia

That game should have never let you on the ballot in half of those rebel states


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 12, 2006, 09:52:04 PM
That game should have never let you on the ballot in half of those rebel states

I staged a monster write-in campaign despite not being on the ballot. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 12, 2006, 09:56:56 PM
Okay, one more ridiculous result for comedy.  I decided to try a completely different scenario.  I found it to be surprisingly well-made, at least aesthetically speaking.

2006 World Government - George W. Bush vs. Hugo Chávez vs. Kofi Annan (me) vs. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

()

Annan (Lib): 793 EVs - 41% PV
Chávez (Soc. Dem.): 366 EVs - 26% PV
Bush (Cons.): 333 EVs - 25% PV
Ahmadinejad (Isl.): 13 EVs - 6% PV

Best countries/regions:

Annan: Philippines- 73.4%
Chávez: Brazil - 45.8%
Bush: China - 40.5% (wtf? Chávez led huge here at the start)
Ahmadinejad: Arabia - 64.0%

Worst countries/regions:

Annan: Arabia - 20.2%
Chávez: Iran - 3.7%
Bush: Arabia - 4.7%
Ahmadinejad: Mongolia - 0.0% (33 votes)

5 countries/regions:

India - Chávez wins over Annan 35.8% - 35.3%
Pakistan - Annan wins over Ahmadinejad 36.7% - 32.8%
Central Asia - Annan wins over Ahmadinejad 33.5% - 28.2%
Australia - Chávez wins over Annan 38.0% - 30.6%
Congo - Annan wins over Chávez 43.0% - 34.5%

I believe that none of the other countries or regions were within 10%.

lol, world government

Afterthought: You know, I should really try to get an Islamist landslide...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 01:34:03 AM
2004 Washington Governor - Gregoire (me) vs. Rossi vs. Bennett

or "recounts are for jerks"

()

Gregoire (D): 63%
Rossi (R): 33%
Bennett (L): 2%


Best counties:

Gregoire: Jefferson County - 75.0%
Rossi: Clallam County - 56.9%
Bennett: Ferry County - 5.5%

Worst counties:

Gregoire: Clallam County - 40.7%
Rossi: San Juan County - 22.1%
Bennett: Grant County - 1.0%

Closest county:

Adams County - Rossi wins over Gregoire 49.9% - 46.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 02:25:33 AM
Way to botch the Clallam County vote, asscream.

I have no freaking clue how I won Okanagan County while losing Clallam County... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 02:44:35 AM
And just for fun...

2004 Washington Governor - Gregoire vs. Rossi (me) vs. Bennett

or "revenge of the Rossi"

()

Rossi (R): 69%
Gregoire (D): 27%
Bennett (L): 3%


Best counties:

Rossi: Grant County - 82.3%
Gregoire: Clallam County - 43.8% (WTF, Clallam County?)
Bennett: King County - 5.8%

Worst counties:

Rossi: Clallam County - 53.2%
Gregoire: Grant County - 15.4%
Bennett: Yakima County - 0.3%

Closest county:

Clallam County - Rossi wins over Gregoire 53.2% - 43.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on November 14, 2006, 06:30:15 PM
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 06:49:58 PM
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.

Sounds like a plan to me. :)

EDIT: Actually, scratch that.  It is quite literally impossible to win as her.  She starts out with all of $2,500, and the cheapest action (Barnstorming) costs $50,000, so you basically can do nothing whatsoever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on November 14, 2006, 07:10:51 PM
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.

Sounds like a plan to me. :)

EDIT: Actually, scratch that.  It is quite literally impossible to win as her.  She starts out with all of $2,500, and the cheapest action (Barnstorming) costs $50,000, so you basically can do nothing whatsoever.

Well then change it. Give yourself like $300,000 or something.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 07:16:06 PM
You should play as Bennett and see how well you do.

Sounds like a plan to me. :)

EDIT: Actually, scratch that.  It is quite literally impossible to win as her.  She starts out with all of $2,500, and the cheapest action (Barnstorming) costs $50,000, so you basically can do nothing whatsoever.

Well then change it. Give yourself like $300,000 or something.

Actually, I just realized that there are the endorsers who give you $2,000,000 each if you win them.  I'll keep it where it is and just try to get every monetary endorsement.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on November 14, 2006, 07:24:42 PM
Way to botch the Clallam County vote, asscream.

I have no freaking clue how I won Okanagan County while losing Clallam County... :P

Moreover, getting over 60 percent as a Democrat in Garfield County while losing Clallam County. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 14, 2006, 07:50:01 PM
2004 Washington Governor - Gregoire vs. Rossi vs. Bennett (me)

lol

()

Bennett (L): 36%
Rossi (R): 35%
Gregoire (D): 27%


Best counties:

Bennett: Okanogan County - 48.8%
Rossi: Adams County - 59.1%
Gregoire: Clallam County - 49.2%

Worst counties:

Bennett: Adams County - 16.6%
Rossi: San Juan County - 22.7%
Gregoire: Garfield County - 15.9%

Closest county:

Pierce County - Gregoire wins over Bennett 36.7% - 35.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on November 15, 2006, 01:46:10 AM
I was playing the new President Forver + Primaries as Former Vice President Al Gore against Arizona Senator John McCain in 2008. Here's the results

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Al Gore/Tom Daschle 69,547,001 61.7% (429 E.V.)
John McCain/Duncan Hunter 43,234,714 37.3% (109 E.V.)

Here's another game I played this time as former Massachussets Governor Mitt Romney against 2004 Democratic nominee and Senator from Massachussets John Kerry; Senator Kerry selected Illinois Senator Barack Obama as his running mate, I (as Romney) selected former Florida Governor Jeb Bush. Here's my map:
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Romney-Bush 68,509,570 58.4% (425 E.V.)
Kerry-Obama  48,580,854 41.6% (113 E.V.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on November 18, 2006, 01:06:32 PM
Bush vs. Nader (me) vs. Nolan (also me). No Democratic candidate.


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Bush
PV: 56%
EV: 531

Nader
PV: 35%
EV: 7

Nolan
PV: 7%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 20, 2006, 04:22:42 PM
This was fun - I created myself as the D -  Candidate with Bayh as my running mate.... against McCain/Huckabee.

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Polnut/Bayh - 302 - 51.6% (thanks largely to 60% in CA and IL)
McCain/Huckabee - 236 - 47.4%
Nader - 1.0%

Biggest Victories-

Reps
Alaska - 75-25
Alabama - 71-29
Utah - 70-30

Dems
Maryland (where I decided to come from) - 77-23
Connecticut - 75-25
Delaware - 74-26

Closest
Iowa - 49.5-49.7 (R)
Colorado - 49.9 - 49.9 (54 votes) (R)
Virginia - 48.7 - 49.3 (D)

Florida - Michigan - Ohio - Nevada - Wisconsin and New Mexico were all within 2.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 29, 2006, 06:22:53 PM
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Clark - 49% - 262
Bush - 44% - 276
Nader - 4% - 0
Badnarik - 1% - 0

A heartbreaking loss, I held Bush close nationwide, but some last minute scandals and momentum couldn't push Clark over the top...a close win in Michigan and a decisive win in Wisconsin sealed my fate.

That has to be one of the largest disparities ever between the popular vote result and the electoral college result.

I also wonder how a Democrat could win all of Kansas, South Carolina, and Indiana, and yet not win the election... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Inmate Trump on November 30, 2006, 12:06:48 AM
I was playing as Giuliani/Hagel (me) vs Biden/Kerry and this was the result.  I didn't use any cheats or anything, so I guess I'm just going to assume the new PF + Primaries is too easy.

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Giuliani: 532
Biden: 6


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 7,052,770 on November 30, 2006, 09:33:47 PM
I had this game like 2 years ago on a different computer.  Is there a way I could download it again for free?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on November 30, 2006, 10:36:33 PM
I had this game like 2 years ago on a different computer.  Is there a way I could download it again for free?

Do you know what your order number was, or what the email address was you used when you ordered?

If so, I think you can send them an email and request a redownload.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 03:29:24 AM
It appears that I spoiled things for Richard Burr.

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Another moral victory for the "have lots of money and run on abortion, affirmative action, and immigration" strategy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 02, 2006, 04:13:06 AM
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Warner/Richardson 295 - 60,572,804 - 51.6%

Frist/Allen 243 - 56,787,619 - 48.4%

NM was decided by 295 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 01:33:25 PM
Perhaps this was too easy

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: © tweed on December 02, 2006, 01:40:54 PM
I had this game like 2 years ago on a different computer.  Is there a way I could download it again for free?

rig the demo


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 02, 2006, 02:40:11 PM

omglol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 05:05:06 PM
Hm.. maybe a bit out there.

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Best County
Rossi: Benton County (46.33%)
Gregoire: Jefferson County (42.03%)
Gates: Walla Walla County (45.57%)

Worst County
Rossi: San Juan County (23.85%)
Gregoire: Franklin County (16.02%)
Gates: Asotin County (24.77%)

Closest Counties
Grays Harbor: Gates over Gregoire, 34.45-34.30, 48 vote plurality
Pacific: Gregoire over Gates, 35.30-35.14, 15 vote plurality
Douglas: Rossi over Gates, 39.53-39.32, 32 vote plurality
King: Gates over Gregoire, 37.06-36.75, 2393 vote plurality
Clark: Rossi over Gates, 34.08-33.65, 726 vote plurality

Gates only finished third in Asotin County.

I based my campaign on jobs, attacking Rossi on jobs, attacking Rossi on abortion, and port security.

With 3 weeks left, Gregoire was up 43-33 and I had 20%.

With 2 weeks left, I got to around 25% or so.

With a week left, I cracked 30%

With a few days left, I put it out of reach.

Bill on the issues

Abortion: L
Affirmative Action: C
Budget: C
Business Tax: C
Jobs: C
Tsunami: CL
WASL: CL
Asian Trade: CR
Crime: C
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Boeing: C
Education: CL
Military Bases: C
Sales Tax: CR
Public Health Care: CR
Renewable Energy: C
State Divide: C
Port Security: CR

I think I intended to put Gates on the left on health care.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 02, 2006, 05:09:17 PM

Let me guess, you gave Bill Gates $2 billion. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 05:10:19 PM

Nah, only $100M


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 02, 2006, 08:58:03 PM
()

The Bloc got screwed. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 03, 2006, 12:06:54 AM
()

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Votes cast: 142,404,295
U.S. Population, 1920 Census: 105,273,049

Wow, a 135% percent turnout.

Looks like the GOTV operations really kicked ass in this election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 03, 2006, 05:23:06 PM
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

()

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 03, 2006, 05:46:59 PM
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

()

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%

WTF?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 03, 2006, 05:49:06 PM

Don't ask me, I just report the results. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on December 03, 2006, 05:54:21 PM

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tik 🪀✨ on December 03, 2006, 06:01:43 PM

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.

I've got even better method deciding who wins each county. It's called arranged marriage.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Everett on December 03, 2006, 06:11:17 PM

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.

I've got even better method deciding who wins each county. It's called arranged marriage.
I've got an even better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a bad acid trip.

... this is getting stupid. Seriously, get off the drugs.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tik 🪀✨ on December 03, 2006, 06:14:16 PM

I've got a better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a dartboard.

I've got even better method deciding who wins each county. It's called arranged marriage.
I've got an even better method of deciding who wins each county. It's called a bad acid trip.

... this is getting stupid. Seriously, get off the drugs.

Oh piss off, I'm probably the only person on this board who's even had a bad acid trip.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 03, 2006, 11:23:10 PM
The electoral vote thing on here is slightly malapportioned.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 04, 2006, 01:48:53 AM
Evil prevails using an anti-free speech, pro-state control of the media, and pro-government ownership of business campaign.

()

Compare the results

PF results on the left, 11/21 results on the right

Cherkasy: 59/41 Yu - 75/25 Yu
Chernihiv: 53/47 Yu - 69/31 Yu
Chernivtsi: 58/42 Yu - 77/23 Yu
Crimea: 89/11 Ya - 85/15 Ya
Dnipropetrovsk: 76/24 Ya - 68/32 Ya
Donetsk: 98/2 Ya - 98/2 Ya
Ivano Frankivska: 71/29 Yu - 95/5 Yu
Kharkiv: 79/21 Ya - 74/26 Ya
Kherson: 67/33 Ya - 55/45 Ya
Khmelnytskyy: 50.1/49.8 Ya (2,014 votes) - 74/26 Yu
Kirovohrad: 63/37 Ya - 50.3/49.7 Ya
Kyiv City: 53/47 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Kyiv Oblast: 53/47 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Luhansk: 96/4 Ya - 95/5 Ya
Lviv: 65/35 Yu - 93/7 Yu
Mykolayiv: 80/20 Ya - 73/27 Ya
Odessa: 78/22 Ya - 72/28 Ya
Poltava: 57/43 Ya - 64/36 Yu
Rivne: 54/46 Yu - 79/21 Yu
Sevastopol: 93/7 Ya - 92/8 Ya
Sumy: 51/49 Ya - 72/28 Yu
Ternopil: 66/34 Yu - 95/5 Yu
Vinnytsya: 53/47 Yu - 78/22 Yu
Volyn: 61/39 Yu - 88/12 Yu
Zakarpattya: 60/40 Ya - 58/42 Yu
Zaporiska: 79/21 Ya - 74/26 Ya
Zhytomyr: 57/43 Ya - 63/37 Yu
Tot: 65/35 Ya - 51/49 Ya


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 04, 2006, 07:37:00 AM
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Allen/Hagel  302- 49.1%
Clark/Richardson 236 - 50.9%

--- the lighter coloured states were decided by less than a 5% margin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 04, 2006, 05:38:38 PM
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Royal (D-MO): 68%
Coolidge (R-MA): 23%
LaFollette (P-WI): 9%

Yay Tariff, Unemployment and Agriculture!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 7,052,770 on December 04, 2006, 06:53:29 PM
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My first game in well over a year, playing as Kerry vs. Bush.



I can't wait to play in the primaries and other weird scenarios.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on December 04, 2006, 07:36:20 PM
The electoral vote thing on here is slightly malapportioned.

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Just a little :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on December 05, 2006, 11:36:09 AM
Testing out the newing "Libertarian surge" scenario available on 80soft.com...


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George W. Bush (R)
PV: 34%
EV: 198

John Kerry (D)
PV: 34%
EV: 165

Clint Eastwood (L)
PV: 29%
EV: 175


Congress elected Bush of course.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Nation on December 06, 2006, 12:00:03 AM
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

()

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%

WTF?

Makes no sense! Golisano would win in a landslide in Buffalo.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bullmoose88 on December 06, 2006, 12:06:07 AM
Here's one for disappointed Republicans. :)

2006 New York Governor - Spitzer vs. Faso (me) vs. Golisano

()

Faso (R): 53%
Spitzer (D): 29%
Golisano (I): 17%


Best regions:

Faso: Buffalo - 75.3%
Spitzer: Capital District - 44.6%
Golisano: Western New York - 33.7% (Golisano did ridiculously well here; Spitzer came in third place)

Worst regions:

Faso: Middle Counties - 34.7%
Spitzer: Upstate Region - 15.4%
Golisano: Buffalo - 4.3%

Closest region:

Long Island - Faso wins over Spitzer 43.8% - 43.1%

WTF?

Makes no sense! Golisano would win in a landslide in Buffalo.

A democrat didn't win Tompkins county but won Ononadga?

No fin way


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 06, 2006, 01:13:39 AM
Makes no sense! Golisano would win in a landslide in Buffalo.

A democrat didn't win Tompkins county but won Ononadga?

No fin way

As we have seen numerous times in President Forever, anything is possible if enough ads are used... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on December 06, 2006, 08:17:22 PM
Here is a great one:

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(The "30%" states are acctually ones where the vote was within 5%, I just marked them so you coudl see where the battlesgrounds were.

Giuliani/McCain: 402 EV 52.5%

Clinton/Edwards: 136 EV 47.5%

This was a wild one.  I started off in the primaries.  The Republican primary started off as a hotly contested challenge between Giuliani aka me (who controled most of the Northeast and Midwest), McCain (who dominated the Southwest, Moutain and Plains states along with Missouri and Florida), and Gingrich (who controled most of the Southeast).  Finally, Romney started out as a non-player, up slightly in Mass and Utah.  Tennessee and the Pacific states were up for grabs.

Well, first things first, I set my themes to Leadership, Iran, Homeland Security (all big winners for me in the primaries) and headed right for Tennessee, figuring that I control Iowa and New Hampshire and didn't stand much of a chance on Mini-Tuesday, other than for possible wins in Missouri and South Carolina, which I targeted heavily.  I spent the first few months going between Iowa, California, New Hampshire, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas and Ohio (when I started to slip there).  To make a long story short, I took Iowa by a huge margin (56%), lost New Hampshire by 1% to McCain, took South Carolina, but lost Missouri (to Gingrich), then came around to win both Tennessee and Virginia, and take Minnesota, California, Washington and Michigan.  Even though I was clearly kicking ass, Super-Tuesday was still in doubt.  I swept it, however by small margins in most states, losing only Georgia (to Gingrich), Maryland (to Romeny), Conn (also to Romney).  Without his mini-Tuesday wins, McCain wouldn't have much to show, but he was still on the map in several states.  With the Gulf State primaries coming up, I knew what I had to do.  I threw 10 PIP at Newt in exchage for hsi leaving the race and endorsing me.  He did, and from then on I pretty much ran the map.  I conviced Romney to bow out (though without endorsing me) before Colorado, and from then on, it was a stampede toward Rudy.  Seeking to unify the party and consoladate my forces early I offered McCain the VP slot and he jumped at it.

On the Dem side, I set the match up between Hillary, Edwards, Kerry and Clark.  I'm not sure of all the specifics of this race, but Hillary started off in charge in most states and stayed that way until the end.  Kerry was the last one to bow out, and he did so just before the DNC.  None of the other candidates endorsed Hillary, but she picked Edwards as VP during the convention.

At the start of the general, she was kicking my ass.  I was ahead in PA, Florida, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina, Texas, and what I called the "Giuliani Belt" which is the sorta "P" shaped area going from Arizona, though the Morman states, then east to Minnesota, before coming back down to Missouri, Kansas and Colorado.  I was acctually down by quite a few points in Wyoming, Nebraska and South Dakota.  I was also up in Indiana, Michigan, Conn, Mass and New Hampshire.

I shifted away from the Homeland Security theme (good in primaries, but not in the General) and toward Health Care.  I then attacked Hillary on her Health Care possition.  It was the onyl attack I put out, but I stuck with it.

Hmmm...  I gotta head, I'll finish this one later


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on December 07, 2006, 01:37:05 AM
To Continue...

First I would liek to say that this is the first time I even defeated McCain in an open field... in fact, it is the first time I have ever defeated him in the game.  I'm not sure how much, if at all, the elimination of Frist and Allen (which is entirely accurate now) effected the result, but it seems that I was either lucky, I'm picking up some skill, found the right issues, or simply got lucky.

Anyway, I didn't spend much time attacking Hillary.  I did the standard scandal research, but that was it.  She didn't attack me at first that much either.  Her lead in the polls just after the conventions was huge (about 6% of the PV) and while I had small leads in some non-traditionally Republican states (PA, MI, MN, WI, MA) I was getting killed in several 2004 swing states (down 10% in Ohio, 13% in Nevada, 8% in New Mexico) not to mention I was behind in all the peripheral south (except NC) by large margins and was trailing in Louisiana, Mississippi, South Dakota, Nebraska (by a whoping 13%), Wyoming and Oklahoma and was only 1 point up in Georgia and NC.  The only real bright spot was that I was up by a seemly impossible 23% in Missouri (and it held through the election, which it is not unrare in the primaries version to see large leads vanish... well, just look at the election as a whole, heh).


Well, so I figured first thing first.  I went to all the traditionally Republican states (excpet Arkansas, Virginia and WV, which I conceded to Clinton) to see if I could get my name out there and drum up support.  Many of these state, I simply hadn't had time to visit during the primaries.  This generated some mixed results.  I was able to get Mississippi (and how) and LA back on my side, but Tennessee continued to be a battle.

At this point, I was losing major ground in some of the states I already had... I was sliding in Georgia, Florida, Texas and Mass.  I was half tempted to just give up on this one, but I decided to see it through.  Things started to change once I got my first Hillary Health Care commercial out.  I blasted the airwaves of over 20 states with 3 ads, the other two possitive for me.

Wyoming soon fell back into my column, as did Georgia and Florida, and I stopped the bleeding in Texas.  Within about two weeks, I had managed to grab up New Mexico, Oklahoma, Tennessee and almost had Ohio is my column.  Then... Hillary hit me with two scandals at once.  I lost Tennessee and all the other states I was able to pick up or get back once again fell into the toss-up or lean columns.

My next break didn't come until about two weeks later when I cruched Hillary in the first debate.  At first, the reaction was acctually kinda negative (almost as though I made her look so bad that people thought I was being mean), but soon a possitive effect started to kick in and all the close states started to lean back towards me.  I picked up Ohio.

I was till about 3% behind in the PV polls and needed about another 20 EVs to win, even if all the close states went for me.  I looked around, wieghed my options and went for California.  Granted, I was 13 points down there, but there were a lot of undecides.  The second debate came, and I once again crush Clinton... who then promptly released a Level 6 scandal against me.  While I was well in the possitive momentum range in many of my key states, the scandal was killing me in Indiana, Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio (I must has said I don't like cheese... ha).  So I had to abort in California and head there.  Luckily, thanks to my foot soldiers, my momentum in Cali was self sustaining, and I soon got the Midwest back under control, although I temporarily lost Indiana.  Having sepnt all that time in that part of the map, I started eyeing up Illinios and figures "why not".  It was basically the same situation as Cali... so I headed in.

I defeated Clinton once again in the third debate, but not by quite as much as the first two.

By this time, Hillary was going full out negative on me... and it backfired.  Several "is the Clinton camp to Negative" and "Clinton Attack Ad Backfires" stories started to appear and I took full advantage of all of them.  In the last week, I had spare cash, and a decent lead, so I figured "why not go all out"... I started running ads in all the states I had written off as "out of reach".

Apparently, she was doing something that worked in North Carolina and Wisconsin, because I was very suprised at the closeness of the final results there, but for the most part, a tidal wave started in favor of me.

On election night, I was delighted when, at 9:22 PM, Illinois went from "Too Close to Call" to my column, putting me over the top.  I was even more delighted when Arkansas, while I had been down 11 points in just one week before, also went my way by 2%.

It wasn't quite the wash that the map might make it seem, several states, including Cali weren't called until hours after the polls closed there.

I would like to point out though that, yep, that is >70% in Missouri... 72% to be exact... it was my biggest win of the night.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 05:22:26 PM
Also, has anyone else played the 2004 Iowa Caucus scenario?  I simply cannot win as Kerry...it's about impossible.

I just tried.  There's something seriously wrong with that scenario.  Gephardt had a momentum of around -50 for the entire campaign due to constant scandals.  No movement whatsoever.  Zip.  Zilch.  Gephardt made a clean sweep of Iowa, winning every congressional district.

I will not be trying it again. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 7,052,770 on December 07, 2006, 05:27:10 PM
Also, has anyone else played the 2004 Iowa Caucus scenario?  I simply cannot win as Kerry...it's about impossible.

I just tried.  There's something seriously wrong with that scenario.  Gephardt had a momentum of around -50 for the entire campaign due to constant scandals.  No movement whatsoever.  Zip.  Zilch.  Gephardt made a clean sweep of Iowa, winning every congressional district.

I will not be trying it again. :P

Yeah, it's really weird.  I may try to edit the scenario files somewhat.



Also, is there just a straight 2008 scenario anywhere?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 05:31:24 PM
Also, is there just a straight 2008 scenario anywhere?

What do you mean "straight 2008"?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 7,052,770 on December 07, 2006, 06:02:33 PM
Also, is there just a straight 2008 scenario anywhere?

What do you mean "straight 2008"?
just a realistic 2008 scenario, not something with a strong 3rd party or a every state is tied or something


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 06:10:07 PM
just a realistic 2008 scenario, not something with a strong 3rd party or a every state is tied or something

This one (http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/153994-D5YA/Ultimate-2008.zip) is a very good 2008 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 07, 2006, 08:56:41 PM
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 08:59:06 PM
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?

Just go find a cracked version of the game somewhere. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Rob on December 07, 2006, 10:08:16 PM
Is there anywhere I can download the complete game free? I have the demo, and as soon as I was getting into it... it cut me off. What a let-down. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 07, 2006, 10:09:54 PM
Is there anywhere I can download the complete game free?

Not legally, at any rate. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 12th Doctor on December 08, 2006, 03:48:31 PM
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?

The problem with the primaries version is that you need to program a starting amount for each candidate, or elese they will start out at "0"... so it is a lot harder to do than it was in the old one.  Plus, you have to program the issues in for each candidate and they each have 7 possitions now instead of 5, which makes it more realistic, but also makes it harder to creat other people as candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 08, 2006, 04:57:14 PM
Can someone play me on one of these cool new ones?

The problem with the primaries version is that you need to program a starting amount for each candidate, or elese they will start out at "0"... so it is a lot harder to do than it was in the old one.

You can highlight more than one state at a time using shift or control.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 09, 2006, 03:59:58 PM
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Truman/Harriman (D) - 50,524,886 votes (64.4975%)
Eisenhower/Nixon (R) - 27,811,347 votes (35.5025%)

Best states for Truman:
New York - 75/25
North Carolina - 75/25
Vermont - 75/25
Wisconsin - 74/26
New Mexico - 74/26

Worst states for Truman
Arizona - 50.37/49.63
Kansas - 54/46
Iowa - 55/45
Michigan - 55/45
West Virginia - 55/45

In this version of history, apparently Eisenhower turns out to be an inept campaigner.

Using "Ike vs Adlai - 1952" I grilled Eisenhower on Education and Unemployment. After softening up his northern support with criticism of his integration stand.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 17, 2006, 09:37:58 PM
Election 2008

I played as Badnarik, and didn't do much until the general election, because, for one, he doesn't have a primary opponent, and for two, this was mostly intended to be a test of my tampered-with 2008 scenario.  I added three more candidates to the Constitution nomination (Randy Jones of Alabama (:D), Snootay Bankeur of New York, and Wayne Granger of Wyoming) and also fixed the dates a bit so that some momentum could have a chance to build due to primary victories.  The numbers I gave them in each state actually made the primary as a whole rather competitive, which was fun to watch :) 

Eventually John Kerry won a very competitive Democratic primary over Hillary Clinton, thanks in part to a pre-convention endorsement from John Edwards.  Interestingly, this was the first computer-only primary I've seen where there was no majority at the convention; Joe Biden and Wes Clark were also in the race, but they both gave most of their delegates to Kerry to push him over the margin necessary.  The Republican primary was a bit of a snoozer... Romney took the lead a short time after the New Hampshire primary, and never let go.  I managed to get McCain's endorsement before he departed the race.  The Constitution primaries also went to Bankeur at the convention, when Peroutka and Granger gave most of their votes to him instead of to Jones.

Once it got to the general election, I started creating crusaders and making ads.  The day before election day I released them in strategically selected markets, and on election day proper I did the typical 50-state ad blitz (well, 49, you'll see what I mean).

Here are the results:

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John Kerry/Wesley Clark (D) - 54,682,029 votes (46.2%) - 345 EV
Mitt Romney/Condoleezza Rice (R) - 45,948,816 votes (38.8%) - 193 EV
Michael Badnarik/Lance Brown (L) - 12,414,832 votes (10.5%) - 0 EV
Snooty Bankeur/Wayne Granger (C) - 5,403,460 votes (4.6%) - 0 EV

Democratic:
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Republican:
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Libertarian:
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No Ballot means no ballot access.

Constitution:
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Whee :)

Oh, and, gotta mention: based on 2004 registration numbers, this is an impressive 70.59% turnout!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 26, 2006, 01:46:23 AM
I almost blew a 17 point lead.

The last poll before the election had me up 57-40

The final results..

Leon Sharpe (R) - 1,177,697 (51.51%)
Janet Napolitano (D) - 1,108,643 (48.49%)

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Best County for Sharpe: Yavapai (78%)
Worst County for Sharpe: Apache (23%)

Granted, if the scenario wasn't so screwy that it put the election on a Sunday, then I could have seen it all coming.

And the EV-ish thing for Arizona gave the election to Napolitano due to Maricopa.

But yeah, that tops any other game, meltdown-wise.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 27, 2006, 01:28:04 AM
In memory of the late President Gerald Rudolph Ford Junior, I narrowly won as incumbent President Ford. Here's the results from the Electoral College.

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Ford-Reagan 50% 284 EV
Carter-Mondale 45% 254 EV
McCarthy-Lucey 5% 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 27, 2006, 04:57:57 AM
I didn't quite top that 69/27 Rossi win a few pages back, but

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Webb (R): 69%
Gregoire (D): 29%
Bennett (L): 2%


Best county for
Webb: Adams (80.9%)
Gregoire: Jefferson (37.5%)
Bennett: Skamania (4.4%)

Worst county for
Webb: Jefferson (60%)
Gregoire: Benton (17.4%)
Bennett: Thurston (0.2%)

It only took $15M to elect a guy who wants to ban all abortions with 69% of the vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alcon on December 27, 2006, 05:08:48 AM
Who...is Webb, exactly?

I feel ashamed that I don't know this.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 27, 2006, 01:57:00 PM
Who...is Webb, exactly?

I feel ashamed that I don't know this.

Webb is just a guy who I use for various political sim games. He's basically more conservative than Bush.

And I gave him the home county of Spokane County.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 27, 2006, 08:39:07 PM
America is doomed

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The real total is 292-246 Wallace.

And the climb involved going from 9% to 30% after 3 polls.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 27, 2006, 09:29:34 PM
America is doomed

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The real total is 292-246 Wallace.

And the climb involved going from 9% to 30% after 3 polls.

:D

I've won as Wallace before, too.  Good stuff.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 27, 2006, 10:11:09 PM
McCain/Hagel vs Biden/Clark

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McCain 322 - 50.3%
Biden 216 - 49.7%

IA, NM, OR, MI, PA, MI, GA and OH were all decided by less than 0.5%

McCain only got over 60% in UT, WY, ID and MS
Biden got 60% in NY, MA, IL, MD, VT and RI


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on December 28, 2006, 01:17:14 AM
Bush/Cheney v. Kerry/Edwards v. Nader v. Penn/Teller

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Having an unrealistic amount of money is good. Even if you have to preserve it near the end, preventing you from winning it all.

I did spend a lot on the Saturday before the election, leading to this:

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and this:

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and it gave me a bounce of one point!

Whoo!

And I mainly kept Teller on the road fundraising instead of speaking.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on January 29, 2007, 12:27:12 AM
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Bush - 41,452,892 (279 EV, 33.35%)
Kerry - 41,931,015 (214 EV, 33.74%)
Buchanan - 40,902,921 (45 EV, 32.91%)

The Popular Vote Surrenders

(Although, I did do a good job using large amounts of money. Around $550M spent for Buchanan)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on February 09, 2007, 10:08:10 AM
Carter vs. Reagan 1980 (dynamism off, no negative ads)


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Carter
PV: 49%
EV: 414

Reagan
PV: 43%
EV: 124

Anderson
PV: 5%
EV: 0

Clark
PV: 1%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on February 10, 2007, 02:17:18 PM
WTF???


Gore/Lieberman vs. McCain/E. Dole 2000

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Gore
PV: 48%
EV: 321

McCain
PV: 49%
EV: 217

Buchanan
PV: 1%
EV: 0

Nader
PV: 0%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 10, 2007, 02:38:32 PM
WTF???


Gore/Lieberman vs. McCain/E. Dole 2000

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Gore
PV: 48%
EV: 321

McCain
PV: 49%
EV: 217

Buchanan
PV: 1%
EV: 0

Nader
PV: 0%
EV: 0

Not too absurd. Take away Texas and NC and that looks reasonable.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 15, 2007, 10:23:57 PM
I played Edwards/Obama against Giuliani/Romney on hard without primaries and did pretty well:

Edwards 311 - Giuliani 227

Edwards: 58,813,690 (50.1%)
Giuliani:   58,546,733 (49.9%)

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 16, 2007, 01:26:43 AM
2008 - Obama/Richardson vs. Giuliani/Brownback (Hard)

You want polarization?  I'll give you polarization!!

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Obama/Richardson (D): 456 EVs, 58.9% PV
Giuliani/Brownback (R): 82 EVs, 41.1% PV

This was one of the most boring election nights in PF+P that I've ever had because, I kid you not, every single state save for North Dakota and Idaho was called within three minutes of their polls closing.  The closest state was Idaho at 53.1% to 46.9%.  The ultimate bellwether state was Michigan, at bang-on 58.9% to 41.1%.

I think the folks at 80soft still have, er, a few kinks to work out...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 16, 2007, 05:51:28 AM
I just played a game where I won Alaska by 12 votes!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on February 19, 2007, 06:31:17 AM
I think the folks at 80soft still have, er, a few kinks to work out...

Yeah, especially how when you play primaries and win and get to the general election a few of the states are on crack. I also played a general election game recently where with a couple weeks left the whole country went crazy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 22, 2007, 11:20:54 PM
I've been thinking a recount button if the result was within 0.5% would be fun.


My most recent.


Giuliani/Sanford
Clinton/Richardson

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Clinton/Richardson - 52.7% 268 EV
Giuliani/Sanford - 47.3% 270 EV

I was able to gut Giuliani in the south - GA and TN came within 3% NC, VA, AR and TX were within 7%. Giuliani won MN, IA and WI by 0.2%, 0.6% and 0.75 respectively.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 23, 2007, 01:22:22 AM
so as Gore I won the popular vote in 2008 by about 1.5% but came short of 270 in the electoral college by 4 votes. Closest state: Michigan, going to my opponent Giuliani by a total of 127 votes (I was a little dissapointed at that result but I guess it just might be destiny for Gore)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on February 23, 2007, 08:46:41 AM
Well, this is certainly one of the rare occasions were D.C. and Utah were won by the same candidate. :D


Carter/Mondale vs. Reagan/Rockefeller 1976 (dynamism off):

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Carter
PV: 51%
EV: 367

Reagan
PV: 47%
EV: 171


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on February 23, 2007, 10:36:21 AM
1992: Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey vs. Pat Buchanan/Pat Robertson vs. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (me)

Dynamism off, no negative campaigning (at least from my/Perot's side)


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Brown
PV: 48%
EV: 512

Buchanan
PV: 26%
EV: 8

Perot
PV: 25%
EV: 18


Closest state - Oklahoma
Brown: 33.9%
Perot: 33.3%
Buchanan: 32.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on February 23, 2007, 11:01:54 AM
Same scenario w/ dynamism on:


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Brown
PV: 44%
EV: 339

Perot
PV: 31%
EV: 181

Buchanan
PV: 24%
EV: 18


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on February 23, 2007, 11:36:39 AM
2004 as Nader with dynamism on and negative ad blitz at the end:


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Kerry
PV: 39%
EV: 238

Bush
PV: 37%
EV: 242

Nader
PV: 22%
EV: 58


Election tied, Congress elected Bush


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 23, 2007, 12:06:00 PM
2004 as Nader with dynamism on and negative ad blitz at the end:


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Kerry
PV: 39%
EV: 238

Bush
PV: 37%
EV: 242

Nader
PV: 22%
EV: 58


Election tied, Congress elected Bush

Utah seems to always be the state most favorable to third-party candidates.  I've never quite understood why.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 24, 2007, 01:16:10 AM
Ok just played as Hillary in a nasty primary battle w Clark and Edwards.

I asked Clark to be my running-mate, but Edwards refused to withdraw from the race. Every week he stayed in (he had 600 delegates to my 2500) it weakened me at a national level. So by the time it was a

Clinton/Clark - Romney/Sanford race it looked like this in the first day of the general election.

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Clinton - 36.3% - 37 EV
Romney - 52.3% - 450 EV
Undecided - 11.4% - 51 EV

After losing all the debates, I managed to find Romney's weakspot Homeland Security. I didn't win, but I was proud of the ground I made up.

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Clinton - 47.1% - 214 EV
Romney - 52.9% - 324


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 24, 2007, 02:23:51 AM
Played as Edwards. After facing a hard three-way primary of Edwards vs. Clinton vs. Biden I came out with the most delegates but about 100 or so short of securing the nomination so I managed to get Biden to endorse me and proceeded along to the general election. It was Edwards vs. Giuliani vs. Badnarik vs. Peroutka and until about the last three weeks it was tied, then I managed to pull away:

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Popular Vote:
Edwards: 50.6 %
Guiliani: 40.5 %
Badnarik: 5.2%
Peroutka: 3.8%

I was suprised at how well the third parties did, together they polled nearly 10% (though Edwards was still able to get a 10% winning margin along with a majority of the vote)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 24, 2007, 02:26:33 AM
Played as Edwards. After facing a hard three-way primary of Edwards vs. Clinton vs. Biden I came out with the most delegates but about 100 or so short of securing the nomination so I managed to get Biden to endorse me and proceeded along to the general election. It was Edwards vs. Giuliani vs. Badnarik vs. Peroutka and until about the last three weeks it was tied, then I managed to pull away:

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Popular Vote:
Edwards: 50.6 %
Guiliani: 40.5 %
Badnarik: 5.2%
Peroutka: 3.8%

I was suprised at how well the third parties did, together they polled nearly 10% (though Edwards was still able to get a 10% winning margin along with a majority of the vote)

Oh, the suprises of the night:
Utah was only won by .3% of the vote
Hawaii went Republican in a Dem landslide (dittto for Iowa, Missouri, West Virginia and New Hampshire)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on February 27, 2007, 01:22:56 AM
I just played my custom made 2008 Presidential Election scenario. It was quite an interesting election. Well here's the results.

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The tickets were:

Governor Michael Shandling (Minnesota)-Senator Dick Ford (Arkansas) 39% (49,258,177) 274 EV

Senator Gary Lewis (Tennessee)-Senator Homer Baxter (Arizona) 38% (47,661,812) 244 EV

President of Bobrick Enterprises Nathan Bobrick(Washington)-Former Governor Barbara Mitchell (New Jersey) 22% (27,715,416) 21 EV

I played as Nathan Bobrick. I didn't run any of my commericals until the final 5 days of the election. My poll numbers went from 10% to 22% in the space of 5 days.

* The Grey on the map represents the Bobrick-Mitchell tickets EV's.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 27, 2007, 03:40:15 AM
Edwards/Richardson vs Giuliani/Hagel +libertarian and constitution.

This was a SQUEAKER!

This was the map going into election night.
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Dems had 199
Reps had 133
with 206 EV pure toss up.

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Final Results
Edwards/Richardson - 48.5% - 313 EV
Giuliani/Hagel - 48.2% - 225 EV
Libertarian - 2.1%
Constitution - 1.2%

NC, FL, MI, AR, TN, WV and CT were decided by less than 0.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 27, 2007, 03:46:11 AM
Edwards/Richardson vs Giuliani/Hagel +libertarian and constitution.

This was a SQUEAKER!

This was the map going into election night.
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Dems had 199
Reps had 133
with 206 EV pure toss up.

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Final Results
Edwards/Richardson - 48.5% - 313 EV
Giuliani/Hagel - 48.2% - 225 EV
Libertarian - 2.1%
Constitution - 1.2%

NC, FL, MI, AR, TN, WV and CT were decided by less than 0.5%

wtf happened to Massachusetts?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 27, 2007, 07:02:57 AM
MA
Edwards - 71.4%
Giuliani - 25.4%
Lib - 1.7%
Cons - 1.5%

Edwards also won IL by a 58-39 margin. Oh IN was R 49.2 - 47.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on February 28, 2007, 11:31:44 PM
I usually don't post my results much anymore, but the "Kerry vs. GOP" scenario is one that is very pro-Kerry, but as Governor Arnold Schwarzennger I won a landslide so rediculous that it has to be shown:

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Arnold Schwarzenneger/Mike Huckabee (R): 523 Electoral Votes, 60% (75,387,673) of the poular vote

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 17 Electoral Votes, 39% (49,050,892) of the popular vote

Here is the result from Washington, D.C.:

Kerry (D): 58.7% (148,252)
Arnold (R): 41.2% (104,129)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 01, 2007, 12:14:54 AM
I usually don't post my results much anymore

Why not?  That's half the fun of it. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 01, 2007, 01:33:25 AM
I am so pissed off right now! I was just playing as General Wes Clark against President George W. Bush in the defult 2004 Presidential scenario in p4e. Well have a look for yourself how I came back from the dead and won the popular vote against President Bush.

Two weeks to go

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2 weeks out election polls:
Bush: 49%
Clark: 40%
UND: 7%

One day to go

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P.S. I forgot to include Minnesota in the Clark collumn.

One day out election polls:
Bush: 45% (-4)
Clark: 49% (+8)
UND: 2% (-4)

Election Night Predictions

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Bush/Cheney= 246 EV (Including Maryland)
Clark/Dean= 292 EV (Including New Hampshire)

Final Election Results

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Well there you go. I won the popular vote by 5 percent, but lost the presidency by 8 Electoral Votes. The joy of American democracy.

Popular Vote Details:
Bush/Cheney: 47% (59,162,150) 273 E.V.
Clark/Dean: 52% (65,013,081) 265 E.V


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 01, 2007, 11:56:49 PM
That looks like a reasonable map for the 2000 election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 02, 2007, 02:16:40 AM
2004 - Dean/Feingold (the liberal stallion! - me) vs. Bush/Cheney (Hard)

Pre-election key

Grey - Tossup
>30% - Edge
>50% - Ahead
>70% - Solid
>90% - _____ Country

With four weeks to go, the race seemed to be right where Bush wanted it to be.  He was over the magic number of electoral votes, even without the tossup states.

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Bush/Cheney (R): 277 EVs
Dean/Feingold (D): 178 EVs
Tossup: 83 EVs

However, at two weeks to go, after winning every debate and running two short nationwide ad blitzes, the tide was... kind of turning a bit.

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Dean/Feingold (D): 430 EVs
Bush/Cheney (R): 73 EVs
Tossup: 35 EVs

With one day to go, Bush had made up some lost ground, but lost ground elsewhere, and it didn't look like it would be nearly enough.

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Dean/Feingold (D): 391 EVs
Bush/Cheney (R): 55 EVs
Tossup: 92 EVs

Election night came.  The election was called for Dean at 9:03 PM, before any of the west coast's polls even had a chance to report.

To add insult to injury, Texas was then called for Dean three minutes later at 9:06 PM.

Bush retired to Crawford in shame and was never seen in the public spotlight again.

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Dean/Feingold (D): 447 EVs, 62.9% PV
Bush/Cheney (R): 91 EVs, 37.1% PV

Best states

Dean: Rhode Island - Dean wins over Bush 77.1% - 22.9%.
Bush: Utah - Bush wins over Dean 78.6% - 21.4%.

Closest state

Idaho - Dean wins over Bush 59.0% - 41.0% (yes, this seriously was the closest result there was... I seem to be a very polarizing figure in PF+P :)).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 02, 2007, 03:00:35 AM
2004 - Kerry/Vilsack vs. Bush/Cheney vs. Nader/Camejo (me) (Easy)

With one day to go before the election, Nader seemed like he wouldn't even make a dent in the election one bit.

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Bush/Cheney (R): 309 EVs
Kerry/Vilsack (D): 159 EVs
Nader/Camejo (I): 0 EVs
Tossup: 70 EVs

BUT THEN NADER RAN ADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nader/Camejo (I): 217 EVs, 19.7% PV (!)
Kerry/Vilsack (D): 181 EVs, 42.9% PV
Bush/Cheney (R): 140 EVs, 37.4% PV

Congress, being the fascist Constitution-haters they are, elected Bush, despite the fact that he came in last and that they aren't allowed to do that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 03, 2007, 02:14:03 AM
Celebrity Challenge 2004 -- Britney Spears/Freddie Prinze Junior (R) vs. Danny Glover/Michael Moore (D) (Me)

This one was a Classic. As per usual when I play the original President Forever, I don't run my commericals until the final two weeks of the campaign. With two weeks to go, the Democratic ticket of Danny Glover (Leathol Weapon Series) and Michael Moore (Bowling for Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11) seemed to be going down the track of Mondale/Ferraro '84. That's until I created havock for the Spears campaign when I released 5 commericals attacking here integrity.

As the campaign went into it's final phase, the major battleground states (California, Arizona, Illinois, Pennsylvania, Maine, Nevada and New Mexico) were all neck and neck. But by election night it was a narrow win for..........

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Danny Glover has been elected 44th President of the United States!!!!!

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The major details

Danny Glover/Michael Moore (D): 51% (64,660,493) 292 EV's
Britney Spears/Freddie Prinze Junior (R): 48% (59,745,153) 246 EV's

Boy that was GOOD!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 03, 2007, 02:33:50 AM
That's until I created havock for the Spears campaign when I released 5 commericals attacking here integrity.

Was every ad attacking integrity?  Because if so, all but one of those ads were actually completely useless - you can't "double up" on a single issue; the impact of multiple ads on the same topic is simply that of the ad with the highest power.

There's also the issue that you can only capitalize on an opponent's negative momentum if you yourself have positive momentum, thereby stealing the voters that are shaved off by the other guy's freefall.  If both of you are in the negative, the impact is nowhere near as strong.

Whenever I make ads, I always make them half on my positives, and half on the other guy's negatives, and always make each ad on a different subject to maximize the benefit reaped from them.

Just a little friendly advice on the inner mechanics of the game. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 03, 2007, 02:47:41 AM
That's until I created havock for the Spears campaign when I released 5 commericals attacking here integrity.

Was every ad attacking integrity?  Because if so, all but one of those ads were actually completely useless - you can't "double up" on a single issue; the impact of multiple ads on the same topic is simply that of the ad with the highest power.

There's also the issue that you can only capitalize on an opponent's negative momentum if you yourself have positive momentum, thereby stealing the voters that are shaved off by the other guy's freefall.  If both of you are in the negative, the impact is nowhere near as strong.

Whenever I make ads, I always make them half on my positives, and half on the other guy's negatives, and always make each ad on a different subject to maximize the benefit reaped from them.

Just a little friendly advice on the inner mechanics of the game. :)

However, I did make about 2 commericals infavor of Danny Glover on Leadership and Integrity. If you want to know I why I attacked Britney on her integrity, that's because of her recent fall-outs, such as her going in and out of rehab, dropping her baby, marrying K-FedX and yada-yada-yada.

But usually, when I'm playing properly, I usually start off with my views on the issues. For instance, when I was playing as Governor Bill Richardson against former Massachussets Governor Mitt Romney, I heavily focused the campaign on Richardson's energy plans. Modified my position on the Iraq War and then with 2 weeks to go, I pounded Romney on Iraq. But it was no use, I lost the presidency by losing Ohio and Arizona, but I won the popular vote by some 1.5 percent.

Thanks for the advice anyway SoFA Gabu.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on March 03, 2007, 05:41:02 PM
Dean/Clark (me) vs. Bush/Cheney vs. the libertarian guy (grey on this map)

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Popular vote: 46-45-9 Dean, I think



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 03, 2007, 10:00:51 PM
However, I did make about 2 commericals infavor of Danny Glover on Leadership and Integrity. If you want to know I why I attacked Britney on her integrity, that's because of her recent fall-outs, such as her going in and out of rehab, dropping her baby, marrying K-FedX and yada-yada-yada.

Oh, I thought you meant you were running the maximum number of ads simultaneously and that they were all "Integrity / Attacking Spears".  If you were combining them with positive ads about yourself, then that's good, in that case.

Dean/Clark (me) vs. Bush/Cheney vs. the libertarian guy (grey on this map)

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Popular vote: 46-45-9 Dean, I think

This game seems to have a serious problem in making every single state go for one candidate by over 60%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on March 04, 2007, 03:44:15 AM
So... Started out running as Gore, won the ALL of the first primaries (normally then all of the others would go in the same way), by the time that the convention came Gore was short about 60 delegates of securing the nomination, Clinton had about 200 less than Gore and Biden had the rest, somehow ALL of Biden's delegates but about 1 or 2 went to Clinton and she won. I then continued the election with Clinton and almost the whole time was in the lead, especially towards the end. The Republican nominee was Gingrich (who too had fewer delegates than another nominee going into the convention).
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Electoral vote:
Clinton: 417
Gingrich: 121

Popular Vote:
Clinton: 64,211,929
Gingrich: 47,244,698
Badnarik: 3,279,313
Pertouka: 3,731,078

Closest state: Texas with a Clinton win of 1.6%

The odd thing with the end election results was that the Pacific states were all above 60% for Clinton...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 12, 2007, 10:47:31 PM
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term. At a decisive 1944 Democratic Convnetion, Vice-President Wallace wins the Democratic nod. MacArthur selects Governor Earl Warren of California as his number two man while Wallace selects Senator Claude Pepper of Florida for Veep.

The results after a demoralized Democratic Campaign (including a power 22 scandal on Wallace):

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Douglas MacArthur/Earl Warren (R): 489 Electoral Votes, 69% (41,483,011) of the popular vote

Henry Wallace/Claude "Red" Pepper (D): 42 Electoral Votes, 30% (18,183,256) of the popular vote

A second Iowan down in flames in only 12-years. :(

 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 12, 2007, 11:13:03 PM
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 13, 2007, 12:16:33 AM
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on March 14, 2007, 12:35:07 AM
Played as Gore in primaries, lost to Clinton by 8 delegates (Only reason being that the week before the convention Biden endorsed Clinton). So then played as Clinton and was basically tied until an ad blitz on the last week.

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Guiliani: 41%
Clinton: 51%
Badnarik:4%
Pertouka: 4%

Basically it was a Clinton landslide, which suprised me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 14, 2007, 07:06:39 PM
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?

Of course Gabu. What a fool I am! Well, FDR changed everything, why not the way we count as well? :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on March 14, 2007, 07:20:25 PM
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?

Of course Gabu. What a fool I am! Well, FDR changed everything, why not the way we count as well? :)

I think many would say he already did. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on March 14, 2007, 09:21:48 PM
I ran as General Douglas MacArthur in "The Disaster at D-Day" 1944 Scenario. President Roosevelt, suffering from a heart attack due to the stress of the failed invasion, is forced from the Democratic Ticket so he can not seek a third term.

Wouldn't that be his fourth term?

Of course Gabu. What a fool I am! Well, FDR changed everything, why not the way we count as well? :)

I think many would say he already did. :P

One... two... oops, I need a massive federal program in order to keep going :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: adam on March 23, 2007, 02:02:16 AM
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me: Giuliani/Owens
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Clinton/Biden

This game needs serious work.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 24, 2007, 01:34:09 AM
Edwards/Clark against Giuliani/Romney. Pretty realistic result:

Edwards 288 - Giuliani 250
Edwards 50.4% - Giuliani 49.6%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RBH on March 29, 2007, 04:02:37 PM
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Bush: 42,340,548 (34%/272 EV)
Kerry: 42,302,039 (33%/252 EV)
Buchanan: 38,269,774 (30%/14 EV)
Nolan: 1,526,719 (1%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reignman on March 31, 2007, 04:40:22 AM
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Bush: 42,340,548 (34%/272 EV)
Kerry: 42,302,039 (33%/252 EV)
Buchanan: 38,269,774 (30%/14 EV)
Nolan: 1,526,719 (1%)

I'm surprised Buchanan didn't win more states with that popular vote result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on April 13, 2007, 10:09:42 AM
2008: Clinton/Richardson vs. Giuliani/Owens


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Clinton
PV: 53.1%
EV: 369

Giuliani
PV: 44.5%
EV: 169

Badnarik
PV: 1.5%
EV: 0

Peroutka
PV: 0.8%
EV: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on April 14, 2007, 09:38:09 PM
Perot's Revenge- 2004!

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Ross Perot/Tom Golisano (Reform): 312 Electoral Votes; 35% (44,232,207) of the popular vote

John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 168 Electoral Votes; 32% (40,340,930) of the popular vote

George W. Bush/Richard Cheney (R): 58 Electoral Votes, 32% (39,981,087) of the popular vote

Nearly every state was decided by less than 5,000 votes. Washington was decided by 3 votes! However, H. Ross Perot is in the White House, now the "sucking" of NAFTA can end! Also, Air Force One is going to be sold and the State of the Union will be given with pie charts.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 23, 2007, 08:50:31 PM
I let myself loose.

I had a very tight primary campaign, where I managed to wrestle the nomination from Clinton after making a deal with Edwards the week before the convention.

I placed myself as the Governor of Pennsylvania, and selected Mark Warner as my running mate. The Reps selected Gingrich/Sanford.

It was a tightish race to begin with, but I pushed hard on his integrity and won all three debates.

On election night this was the result.

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Polnut/Warner - 379 EV - 70,678,910 - 55.6%
Gingrich/Sanford - 159 - 56,439,225 - 44.4%

- Yes I did get 70% in CA, 70.8% in fact.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 24, 2007, 01:22:47 AM
Today I just played as New York Mayor, Michael Bloomberg in his independent candidacy in 2008.

The Democratic ticket was Senator Christopher Dodd and former Governor Mark Warner.

The Republican ticket was former Governor Mitt Romeny and Senator Chuck Hagel.

The election was quite close between Dodd and Romney for the first four weeks, until Romney launched a massive attack add campaign, against Dodd in key sign states of Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa and Illinois, Pennsylvania, Washington, Oregon and New Hampshire.

In the end the election turned out like this:

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Romney/Hagel 50,646,055 369 EV 49.7%
Dodd/Warner 43,626,722 169 EV 42.8%
Bloomberg/Zinni 7,694,373 0 EV 7.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Duke on May 16, 2007, 03:30:32 AM
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Obama/Richardson 52.9%
Romney/Allen 47.1%

Electoral college landslidee because I won the southern and western states by small margins.  This election would basically realign the country, driving the black vote and latino vote through the roof to put the south and west in play.

And the best part is, I was about to concede the primaries right after Super Tuesday, which did not going well at all, to Hillary and offer my endorsement if she took me as VP.  Then Edwards drops out and endorses me, and I get the boost I needed to keep going.  The contest came down to the final primary, which I believe was New Jersey.  Hillary being a snippy witch that she is didn't drop out until the convention, which I won by 21 delegates.  I leave my convention down 4% to Romney, and go on to win anyway thanks to the 50 foot soldiers I had on election day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 16, 2007, 06:09:40 PM
How did you set yours up like that, Rockefeller Republican?

When you're starting a game, you should be able to select which parties you have turned on and off at the first page after selecting the scenario.  You can also turn primaries off, which enables you to simply select the candidates after that page.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Duke on May 22, 2007, 01:13:21 AM
I created a custom candidate and picked out a picture for him, but I can't get the game to set the picture as the candidate's photo.  It tells me the bitmap image is not valid.  WTF does that mean?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on May 22, 2007, 01:42:28 AM
I created a custom candidate and picked out a picture for him, but I can't get the game to set the picture as the candidate's photo.  It tells me the bitmap image is not valid.  WTF does that mean?

Did you save the picture as a ".bmp" file?  Other picture formats won't work.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 23, 2007, 11:48:05 PM
How did you set yours up like that, Rockefeller Republican?

When you're starting a game, you should be able to select which parties you have turned on and off at the first page after selecting the scenario.  You can also turn primaries off, which enables you to simply select the candidates after that page.

Yes, I've done that, but he has the territories as part of his...

First of all, I'm sorry for the long wait in response to your question, Ohio4Phillies. I got the scenario send to me from a guy off the 80soft forum (which is now defunct). I can get a copy of it and put it on the forum so you guys can download it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 12, 2007, 05:00:06 AM
Again I ran as my socially liberal/economic moderate self from PA.

Another NASTY NASTY primary battle with Clinton ending with Richardson finally endorsing me. Given that I was at 2075 votes only 10 or so short.

Anyway the Reps were Huckabee/Owen - I chose Bayh as my VP candidate.

I flew out of the gates leading him 43 - 39 after 2 weeks. But things tightened around week 5 with him pulling up to a virtual tie at 46-47. But I ran a massive pull of ads in the last few days opened up several states including IN.

Final polls were
- Me, 50.3
- Huckabee 47.1

It ended like this
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Those shaded light were the battleground states.

Polnut/Bayh - 340 EV - 66, 038, 544 - 53.6%
Huckabee/Owens - 198 - 57, 189, 901 - 46.4%

The closest state was Huckabee's own state of AR which I won by 256 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 16, 2007, 10:49:16 PM
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John Edwards/Russ Feingold (D) 304 EV 45.1%
Mike Huckabee/Mitt Romney (R) 234 EV 43.7%
Mike Bloomberg/Anthony Zinni (I) 0 EV 7.6%
Steve Kubby/George Phillies (L) 0 EV 3.6%

This was a race I could have easily won, but I easily lost it even thought election eve polls were predicting I would win Pennsylvania and Arizona (which would have won me the election!). And somehow on election day eve, Kubby and Bloomberg managed to get an extra 2%!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TheWildCard on June 17, 2007, 12:42:51 AM
My first game with primaries was very interesting and pretty dang fun. I decided to play as Mitt Romney. I started off neck and neck with Thompson for 3rd place with Giuliani and McCain infront.

I quickly focused on Iowa and California trying to find scandals on Giuliani and Romney won the Iowa Caucus. Rudy wins NH. I save my scandals and negative ads for the 2 days before Super Tuesday. I do very well and win California and quite a few others and am ahead in the votes. Essentially I was in control essentially whenever a candidate would drop out their votes would go to me. I had the thing locked up once it was just Romney and Giuliani. Giuliani though just wouldn't drop out and he was way out in front of me in the polls. Thus, I decided why not make him VP. He accepted.

On the Democratic side there was still an all out war Clinton, Edwards and Obama (in that order) had a very even 3 way split. The day of their convention came around Obama dropped out more of his delegates went to Edwards than Clinton but Clinton still was victorious. Clinton selected Feingold as her veep.

At the beginning of the elections it looked like I was in control even CA and IL were undecided.

The Debates broke down like this
Romney Triumphs
Feingold Wins
Clinton Wins
Romney Wins

Clinton struggled on the Daily Show
Romney shined on the Daily Show
Romney makes good impression on O'Reilly
Clinton tackles questions on O'Reilly
Clinton shines on Dailly Show
Romney tackles questions on Oprah (???)

Giuliani was working too hard though since he collapsed on the campaign trail 3 times.

Finally the election is a week away. I have a number of scandals and ads stashed away but Clinton is doing very well and seems to have the thing locked up. 3 days before the election I unleash my scandals and ads nationwide. But the first day theres a pretty big Romney Scandal (ouch). Then it fades away and the Clinton scandal is number one. Still going into election night things looked bad for Romney some Southern states were going Dem and Hillary had a firm lead in the Electoral college unless the public changed there mind in less than one day.

Election night comes and the results are spectacular.

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Romney/Giuliani 377 EVS   65,343,106 votes 55.8%
Clinton/Feingold 161 EVS   51,845,475 votes 44.2%

All I have to say is that was a blast. I like what they've done with the game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on June 24, 2007, 09:14:25 PM
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Popular vote was:
Richardson: 49.6%
Romney: 41.6%
Third parties (liberatarian and Constitution): 8.2%

This was a normal campaign until the last three days, then all hell broke loose... The fact that the south was so close (almost every state in the south was won by less than 2%, most going to Romney) suprised me. Many of the other states were odd too, like Utah only 40% for Romney? (though he still won by about 25% because the 3rd parties did really well there). Also Romney winning Vermont was odd, but oh well, maybe a mormon running would just skew the results a bunch.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on June 24, 2007, 09:15:25 PM
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Popular vote was:
Richardson: 49.6%
Romney: 41.6%
Third parties (liberatarian and Constitution): 8.2%

This was a normal campaign until the last three days, then all hell broke loose... The fact that the south was so close (almost every state in the south was won by less than 2%, most going to Romney) suprised me. Many of the other states were odd too, like Utah only 40% for Romney? (though he still won by about 25% because the 3rd parties did really well there). Also Romney winning Vermont was odd, but oh well, maybe a mormon running would just skew the results a bunch.

Oh yes and electoral vote:
Richardson: 335
Romney: 206


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on June 26, 2007, 12:33:02 AM
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Gore vs Romney: Republicans were so angry after the primary that they endorsed Gore... so there was a bit of a landslide, only state that truly doesnt make sense is Rhode Island, but oh well.
Pop vote:
Gore: 58%
Romney: 37%
Liberatarian: 5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 28, 2007, 09:31:58 AM
This was a nail-biter.

It was Me/Warner vs Giuliani/Sanford.

I got hit by three big scandals in weeks 4 and 5, so I was knocked from a 42 -40 lead to being beaten 44 - 41.

I pushed hard, and got my reward when I went up 12% in GA and 9% in FL. The W.Mississippi corridor opened up for me, but I started to get a flogging in states like PA, OH and OR. This was largely due to the presence of both a libertarian and the constitution candidates.

This was the state of the race before election day.

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Polnut/Warner - 205
Giuliani/Sanford - 133
Toss Up - 200

The final result was this.

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Polnut/Warner - 339 - 48.8%
Giuliani/Sanford - 199 - 48.3%
Constitution - 2%
Libertarian - 1.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on June 28, 2007, 01:51:29 PM
I WANT PRESIDENT FOREVER!!!!!!!!! Really, it looks great.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on June 28, 2007, 02:24:43 PM
Does anyone have any screenshots from Campaigns forever? I downloaded it, but haven't gotten the chance to play it cause I haven't been home in over a week.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on June 29, 2007, 06:43:59 AM
Last night was the first night in a while I got home, so I decided to play a few games. I'll post two of the oddest ones.

The first game, It was a three way tie bewteen McCain, Giuliani, and Thompson for the nomination for the Republicans. Somehow, Paul came out of nowhere, and won handidly. (I'm as confused as most of you on that one)

For the Democrats, it was between Warner and Clinton, than Edwards gained the big Mo, and just clinched it from Warner.

I don't know why the Republicans chose Paul, it wasn't the best choice.

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Edwards/Kerry 492  56%
Paul/Allen 46 34%
Me/Huckabee 10%

 I played as myself as a third party candidate. When it came down to seeing who the nominees were, I decided to sit back and watch it explode, because it was pretty even in the start of the general. I still managed to get about 10% of the vote, and came in second to many southern states that Edwards won, a distant second at that.

The second was McCain and Biden. Biden took the lead in the primary early, as did McCain, and they never looked back.

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Yup..

McCain/Pataki 524  62%
Biden/Feingold 14  24%
Me/Huckabee 0 14%

 I again did't play as well as I could have, because I forgot to give myself much money.  The oddest thing was Biden won D.C. with 44%, to McCains 36% and me getting 20%

  Wow, just wow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on June 29, 2007, 06:47:33 AM
You bought the game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on June 29, 2007, 07:39:32 AM
A long time ago, yeah. I haven't played the game in over a month.  I recently bought the Campaigns one, but haven't had the chance to create anything with it yet.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on July 01, 2007, 11:39:44 PM
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Gore vs Romney:
Popular vote:
Gore/Edwards: 56%
Romney/?: 36%
Right wing 3rd Parties (constitution and liberatarian): 10%

Electoral college: sorry I forgot, it was something like:
Gore: 380
Romney 100 and something...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on July 05, 2007, 09:54:52 PM
Jim Gilmore vs. Hillary Clinton, 2008

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Jim Gilmore/Duncan Hunter (R): 439 Electoral Votes, 59% (74,045,525) of the Popular Vote

Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson (D): 99 Electoral Votes, 40% (50,374,869) of the Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 11, 2007, 03:05:34 AM
Richard Nixon vs. John F. Kennedy vs. Orval Fabus (ME)

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Like the 2000 Presidential Election between Bush and Gore, this one was exactly like it, where Kennedy narrowly won. And like Bush, Kennedy lost the popular vote to Nixon!

John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (D): 270 Electoral Votes, 46% (36,298,410)
Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R): 267 Electoral Votes, 49% (39,158,429)
Orval Fabus/John Crommelin (SR): 0 Electoral Votes, 4% (3,395,662)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 11, 2007, 03:26:18 AM
Richard Nixon vs. John F. Kennedy vs. Orval Fabus (ME)

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Like the 2000 Presidential Election between Bush and Gore, this one was exactly like it, where Kennedy narrowly won. And like Bush, Kennedy lost the popular vote to Nixon!

John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (D): 270 Electoral Votes, 46% (36,298,410)
Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R): 267 Electoral Votes, 49% (39,158,429)
Orval Fabus/John Crommelin (SR): 0 Electoral Votes, 4% (3,395,662)

Rocky, weren't you supposed to send a few of us the President Forever file?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 12, 2007, 02:09:24 AM
Richard Nixon vs. John F. Kennedy vs. Orval Fabus (ME)

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Like the 2000 Presidential Election between Bush and Gore, this one was exactly like it, where Kennedy narrowly won. And like Bush, Kennedy lost the popular vote to Nixon!

John F. Kennedy/Stuart Symington (D): 270 Electoral Votes, 46% (36,298,410)
Richard Nixon/Nelson Rockefeller (R): 267 Electoral Votes, 49% (39,158,429)
Orval Fabus/John Crommelin (SR): 0 Electoral Votes, 4% (3,395,662)

Rocky, weren't you supposed to send a few of us the President Forever file?

Don't worry Hashemite. Have patience my friend. Anyway this is from the original President Forever. 80soft were to dodgy not to make one with the 1960 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: WiseGuy on July 12, 2007, 10:53:10 AM
Kinda off topic, but does anyone know why they got rid of the ability to hold fund raisers during the General Election?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 14, 2007, 01:38:23 AM
George W. Bush vs. Al Sharpton (ME)

I just rushed through the game, not releasing my commericals until the final 2 days of the campaign. This is how the networks predicted the 2004 Presidential Election:

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George W. Bush (R) 417 EV 54%
Al Sharpton (D) 117 EV 46%

The 2004 Presidential Election ended up being a George W. Bush victory, however the popular vote was very close with Bush recieving 50% Sharpton 49%. I somehow won Bush's homestate of Texas!  This is how the elected ended up turning like:

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George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R): 318 Electoral Votes, 50% (62,239,990)
Al Sharpton/Howard Dean (D): 220 Electoral Votes, 49% (61,940,041)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 14, 2007, 06:55:37 AM
Again - yet another nasty primary battle with Clinton, she went all the way to the convention evn though I had 300+ more delegates than I needed. I chose Warner to be my running mate, and Reps selected a Romney/Allen - so in the battle of the Virginian VP noms - who would deliver the state. During the campaign Romney was no closer than 4% behind.

FINAL RESULT

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Polnut/Warner - 359 EV  71,305,368  55.8%
Romney/Allen - 179 EV  56,487,938  44.2%

For your information.
VIRGINIA
Polnut/Warner - 1,704,843  52.5%
Romney/Allen - 1,544,366  47.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 18, 2007, 03:29:23 AM
So between Clinton and myself - who would do best against Fred Thompson?

RESULTS

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Clinton/Warner - 252 EV 49%
Thompson/Sanford - 286 EV 48%
Badnarik/?  1.9%
Petrouka/?  1.1%


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Polnut/Warner - 321 EV 53.3%
Thompson/Sanford - 217 EV 43.7%
Badnarik/? 2.1%
Petrouka/? 0.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Man From G.O.P. on July 18, 2007, 04:02:56 AM
Again - yet another nasty primary battle with Clinton, she went all the way to the convention evn though I had 300+ more delegates than I needed. I chose Warner to be my running mate, and Reps selected a Romney/Allen - so in the battle of the Virginian VP noms - who would deliver the state. During the campaign Romney was no closer than 4% behind.

FINAL RESULT

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Polnut/Warner - 359 EV  71,305,368  55.8%
Romney/Allen - 179 EV  56,487,938  44.2%

For your information.
VIRGINIA
Polnut/Warner - 1,704,843  52.5%
Romney/Allen - 1,544,366  47.5%


NO wai Mitt Romney loses Massachussettes you hacker.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 18, 2007, 05:08:13 AM
Again - yet another nasty primary battle with Clinton, she went all the way to the convention evn though I had 300+ more delegates than I needed. I chose Warner to be my running mate, and Reps selected a Romney/Allen - so in the battle of the Virginian VP noms - who would deliver the state. During the campaign Romney was no closer than 4% behind.

FINAL RESULT

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Polnut/Warner - 359 EV  71,305,368  55.8%
Romney/Allen - 179 EV  56,487,938  44.2%

For your information.
VIRGINIA
Polnut/Warner - 1,704,843  52.5%
Romney/Allen - 1,544,366  47.5%


NO wai Mitt Romney loses Massachussettes you hacker.

Not only did he lose it - he lost it 66-34


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 19, 2007, 09:37:46 AM
I thought this might be an interesting race.

Barack Obama/Bill Richardson

vs

Rudolph Giuliani/Mark Sanford

+ Lib and Cons.

Things were going ok, Obama led within the margin of error into late-September, then Giuliani pounded me on experience and it hurt (funny, Giuliani went after someone on experience)

The end result.

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Obama/Richardson (D)  140 EV  57,770,692  46.4%
Giuliani/Sanford (R)  398 EV  60,916,296  49%
Badnarik (L) 0 EV  4,488,797  3.6%
Peroutka (C) 0 EV  1,223,861  1%


Interesting numbers.
Badnarik got 8.9% in MN, 7.6% in TX and 7.1% in SD plus got over 5% in about 6 other states.

Closest (D) CT - 47.5 - 47.4%
Closest (R) MI - 49.8 - 48.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 26, 2007, 01:39:13 AM
Well - I ended up deciding to create my own Unity Party where I was a billionaire philanthropist.

I decided to create a primary - to boost numbers and recognition.

The Dems were Clinton/Vilsack and the Reps were McCain/Rice, I selected Chuck Hagel as my running mate.

I spent HUGE sums of money - and focused on CA, NY, ME, and KS. I ended up doing quite well.

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Clinton/Vilsack - 279 EV - 48,278,182  39%
McCain/Rice - 259 EV - 47,092,958  38.1%
Polnut/Hagel (Likely 1EV) - 28,262,522  22.9%

My target states FYI
NY - C 39.4% P 34.6% M 26%
ME - C 36.4% P 36.2% M 27.4%
CA - C 35.7% P 34.9% M 29.4%
KS - M 39.4% P 37.2% C 23.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on July 26, 2007, 02:29:36 AM
After surprising myself by making it through a crowded primary field (mega Tuesday is a real pain...), I proceeded to totally dominate John Edwards.

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Ron Paul/Walter Williams - 59.1% (405 ev's)
John Edwards/Mike Gravel - 40.9% (133 ev's)

Edwards' best state was Delaware, with 53.6%, he only managed 57% in DC. He won AZ by 211 votes.

Paul's best state was Utah, with 80.7%.

You won with Paul? Impressive


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on August 12, 2007, 09:19:23 PM
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I was Edwards, in the primaries I was worried because I only led in maybe 6 states going into Iowa, thankfully Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina were three of the six. Somehow winning those three gave me enough momentum to blow the other candidates out of the water and capture the nomination. From there I went on to slowly wittle away at Romney, starting with us being pretty even to a landslide for Edwards.
Obviously Utah was Romney's best State, and Edwards was Vermont (I think, though he also did well in the Carolina)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on August 26, 2007, 02:49:50 AM
West Wing 2006: Vinick vs. Santos vs. Gillette (me)

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Arnold Vinick/Ray Sullivan (R) 296 EV 46% (58,011,651)
Matthew V. Santos/Leo McGarry (D) 242 EV 41% (51,604,000)
Seth Gillette/Jim Jerich (I) 0 EV 12% (15,110,530)

I managed to finish second  in two states as Senator Seth Gillette they were:

North Dakota:

Arnold Vinick 49.1% (140,859)
Seth Gillette 26.0% (71,690)
Matt Santos 24.8% (71,181)

District of Columbia:

Matt Santos 61.3% (154,750)
Seth Gillette 22.1% (55,784)
Arnold Vinick 16.5% (41,587)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 08, 2007, 06:04:00 AM
1980: Reagan/Bush vs. Carter/Mondale (me) vs. Clark/Koch

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James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale (D) 361 EV 53% (53,897,716)
Ronald W. Reagan/George H. W. Bush (R) 177 EV 42% (42,797,560)
Ed Clark/David Koch (L) 0 EV 3% (3,128,897)

I ran numerous attack adds against the Reagan campaign on Leadership and Experience. The adds seemed to work. I went from trailing in the North and Midwest to be well out in front. I never though I could win as Jimmy Carter in the 1980 campaign, I proved myself wrong :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ronald Reagan on September 08, 2007, 01:08:10 PM
I haven't been into politics for a while.  But I played this game for the first time today.

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Giuliani/Romney - 51%...444 EV
Clinton/Obama - 41%...94 EV
Paul - 3%
Clymer - 3%

So I believe both third parties hurt the Republicans.  Without them...it would look like this...

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Giuliani - 511
Clinton - 27


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on September 08, 2007, 01:47:42 PM
I think someone should run forum members against each others again.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Undisguised Sockpuppet on September 08, 2007, 01:58:27 PM
I think someone should run forum members against each others again.
why?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on September 08, 2007, 02:04:35 PM
It was cool to see who would win in races.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 12, 2007, 04:46:00 PM
1992: George H.W. Bush vs. Bill Clinton (me) vs. Ross Perot

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George H.W. Bush/J. Danforth Quayle (R) 270 EV 38% (41,994,651)
William J. Clinton/Albert A. Gore Jnr (D) 268 EV 43% (47,970,416)
H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I) 0 EV 17% (19,725,278)

I did what I usually do whilst playing President Forever. I ran as Bill Clinton and played all my commericials with about 2 weeks to go. I came within two electoral college votes from the Presidency. Like the RL election of 2000, the Democrats won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 14, 2007, 04:43:43 AM
I ran as Governor Mario Coumo in the Democratic primaries against the RL life Democratic field including Senator Ted Kennedy. At the start of the campaign it was a Kennedy-Coumo tie until I unleashed attacks on his integrity, reminding voters about Chappaqudick. I easily cruised to the Democratic nomination and selected Senator Al Gore to be my running mate.

Whilst on the Republican side, I left Vice President George H. W. Bush out of the race and kept the RL Republican field including Senator Howard Baker. It was a 4 way tie between Dole-Kemp-Baker-Robertson until Baker and Dole endorsed Robertson. The race was then left with Congressman Kemp and Reverand Robertson, I thought Kemp was going to win, until he endorses Robertson as well! For Vice President, Reverand Robertson selected Senator Jesse Helms of all people.

The General Election campaign was unusually close between myself and Robertson. That was all put to rest when I unleashed numerous attack add campaigns on Robertson's experience and his position on School Prayer. I also made numerous adds about my leadership and experience.

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Mario Coumo/Al Gore (D) 390 EV 53.8% (63,786,377)
Pat Robertson/Jesse Helms (R) 39.5% (46,787,361)
Lenora Fulani/Fred Newman (NA) 0 EV 6.7% (7,905,712)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 20, 2007, 11:53:54 PM
United States Senate 2006

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Map Key:

Republican
Democratic
Bernie Sanders Independent
Note: Joe Lieberman's Connecticut for Lieberman is coloured red because he is caucusing with the Democratic party.

I ran as the Republicans led by Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas in the 2006 Senatorial Elections. I managed to pull off a surprising win by managing to hold onto seats in Montana, Missouri and Rhode Island. I also managed to win Bob Menendez's seat in New Jersey. Some of the states were really close, when I mean close they were really close. Here are the results in those seats.

Virginia:
Jim Webb (D) 50.0% (1,367,819)
George Allen (R) 50.0% (1,365,977)

Missouri:
Jim Talent (R) 50.6% (1,097,587)
Claire McCaskill (D) 49.3% (1,068,075)

Montana:
Conrad Burns (R) 50.7% (175,260)
Jon Tester (D) 49.2% (169,889)

New Jersey:
Thomas Kean Jnr (R) 50.7% (1,660,858)
Bob Menendez (D) 49.2% (1,610,800)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 27, 2007, 02:16:28 AM
American Government Simulation 2004

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Nation Hahn/Jim Dallas (D): 372 EV, 46% (57,659,452)
Adam Yoshida/Colin Carpenter (R): 166 EV, 40% (49,977,719)
Leonard Hobbes/Max Cherry (F): 0 EV, 13% (16,640,619)

Like most of my Presidential campaigns, I didn't run any commericials until the final two weeks of the Presidential campaign. Prior to the Hahn/Dallas campaign running numerous attack adds on President Yoshida, the Yoshida/Carpener campaign were predicted to win with more than 411 Electoral College votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 06, 2007, 01:55:37 AM
2008: Fictional Presidents

I ran as Independence Day President Thomas Whitmore (Bill Pullman) against Dave President Dave Kovic (Kevin Kline). It was a pretty close election from when the campaign began to it's finish in early November. I ran commericals attacking Kovic's Leadership. whilst balancing it out with commercials boasting my leadership when the Aliens attacked in July 1996. On Election Day the polls were too close to call with Kovic leading by 0.4% over Whitmore. This is how the networks were predicting the Electoral College map:

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Dave Kovic/Gary Nance (D): 246 EV
Thomas Whitmore/Dave Levinson (R): 158 EV
Undecided (U): 134 EV

Many of the networks were predicting that Kovic would win California, Texas, Lousiania and Florida by narrow margins over Whitmore. Whitmore was predicted to win Colorado.

However when it came to Election Night Thomas Whitmore defeated Dave Kovic for the Presidency of the United States. Narrowly in the PV count (50.3 - 49.7%), but easily won in the Electoral College count (319 - 219). Here's the Electoral College map.

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Thomas Whitmore/David Levinson (R): 319 EV, 50.3% (61,687,825)
Dave Kovic/Gary Nance (D): 219 EV, 49.7% (60,975,614)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 06, 2007, 02:47:19 AM
This was a BIZARRE one.

I ran what I thought were pretty strong tickets on both sides.

Clinton/Bayh vs Giuliani/Sanford vs Peroutka there as an experiment.

I started behind Giuliani by about 2% - we split the debates (incl. a tie) - I got hammered by scandal heading into 3 weeks to go. I recovered and started thumping Giuliani on experience and this was the map heading into election night.

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The day before I put up a '7' strength leadership ad nationwide.

This was the result!

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Clinton/Bayh - 487 EV - 70,739,259 - 57.1%
Giuliani/Sanford - 51  EV - 51,513,769 - 41.6%
Peroutka - 1,529,079 - 1.2%

Peroutka did likely cost Giuliani - MS, GA, MO, KY - only 40 EV.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 06, 2007, 02:50:20 AM
That was very bizarre scenario Polnut. A question I would like to ask President Forever + Primary players. Do Third Party's PV's go up by 3-6% on Election Day? Because this has happened to me many times. It even cost me the election running as a moderate Mike Huckabee.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 10, 2007, 03:01:32 AM
Right - I decided a one-on-one match was a good bet.

Me/Bayh
vs
Giuliani/Sanford.


Final results.

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Polnut/Bayh- 317 EV - 67,652,137 - 54.9%
Giuliani/Sanford - 221 EV - 55,576,308 - 45.1%

Biggest blowout -
MA - P - 71.3%
 
Closest -
Wisconsin - Giuliani wins by 551 votes.

* I think a re-count  option would be a good idea - instantly recount any state with a margin of less tha 0.1% Plus players could request recounts for anything below 0.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on October 10, 2007, 05:21:30 PM
I just ran as Badnarik in the P4Ever Demo. I also ran "symbolically" as Bayh, Warner, Gore, Frist and Allen so that way they could endorse Badnarik (on the very first day). This gave me a tremendous boost. Here's the map:

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Now, these weren't the final results but I just gave the swing states to the candidate that was leading.

Clinton 258 29.3%
Giuliani 265 34.6%
Badnarik (me) 15 15.5% !!!
Undecided Voters 20.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on October 10, 2007, 05:33:08 PM
I was coming in close 2nd in most of the Southern states and a mix of strong 2nd or weak 2nd in the Mountain West. I did badly in the New England states (obviously, the Libertarians aren't on the NH ballot so that's out) but strangely well in the Midwest states. The Pacific was a mix. Anyways, this 15.5% (which might've been higher if I'd finished the game) has been my best result so far. Before I was happy if I got more than 2% with Badnarik but when I started playing as others to endorse Badnarik, the game totally changed. Oh, I also forgot to mention that Clinton was ahead in New Mexico.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on October 11, 2007, 04:26:22 AM
American Government Simulation 2004

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Nation Hahn/Jim Dallas (D): 372 EV, 46% (57,659,452)
Adam Yoshida/Colin Carpenter (R): 166 EV, 40% (49,977,719)
Leonard Hobbes/Max Cherry (F): 0 EV, 13% (16,640,619)

Like most of my Presidential campaigns, I didn't run any commericials until the final two weeks of the Presidential campaign. Prior to the Hahn/Dallas campaign running numerous attack adds on President Yoshida, the Yoshida/Carpener campaign were predicted to win with more than 411 Electoral College votes.

How do you know about the AGS?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on October 11, 2007, 01:41:27 PM
Playing as Clinton in '92...ran a front porch campaign, using most of my CP's to get endorsements, buy crusaders, get research, and spin the news.

Bush had the distinct advantage throughout most of the campaign (having more than 270 EV's in the bag most of the time), but his campaign collapsed utterly in the last week, having more than -300 mo' by election day.  This was partially due to an ad blitz on my part...but the collapse was everywhere in the country, not just the places I ran ads.  Bush had some scandals, but nothing ridiculous (nothing more than -6)...he just simply collapsed, resulting in a net 10-point (and 250+ EV) swing in the polls in my favor, which only expanded by election day.

Net Result:
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All the swing (or heck, even lean) states but Idaho swung heavily against Bush, giving Clinton victories in Connecticut, Louisiana, Idaho, and Indiana, among others.  It was also enough to allow Perot to squeak out a victory in Nevada, a state in which he had never led in polls.  (He'd led in Maine for a time earlier before Clinton took the lead).

Final Result:
Clinton:  51,665,149 (47%):  412 EV   [Last Poll: 41%, 363 EV]
Bush: 33,386,486 (30%): 122 EV        [Last Poll: 27%, 139 EV]
Perot: 24,544,356 (22%): 4 EV           [Last Poll: 18%, 0 EV]


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on October 11, 2007, 02:17:25 PM
1992 again, as Clinton, in a direct attempt to make Perot win.

Some good headlines....

"Bush comfortably ahead of Perot in polls"  (Clinton, in third, not even mentioned)
A week before the campaign, MD poll:  Bush 26%, Clinton 26%, Perot 5%, Undecided 38%

Day before the election, polls were showing Bush at 39, Clinton at 24, Perot at 25...but with the EV situation much closer (Bush at 290 but falling, Perot at 164 & rising, Clinton at 31)

It wasn't enough in the end, though:
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Bush: 44%, 303 EV
Perot: 28%, 196 EV
Clinton: 27%, 39 EV

Closest States:
Connecticut:  Clinton over Perot by .8%  (8 EV)
Maryland: Bush over Clinton by 1.2% (10 EV)

Despite the apparent closeness of WI & MI (which would have deprived Bush of an EV majority) before the election, Bush won both states (& all other states he won, for that matter), by 8 points...the closeness of the EV race was, unfortunately, deceptive.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 31, 2007, 12:56:50 AM
Me against Grumpy Fred.

My campaign was essentially a tireless thumping on his experience.

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Me/Warner - 404 EV - 72,450,520 - 56.7%
Thompson/(Jeb) Bush - 134 - 55,432,685 - 43.3%

All states coloured light were decided by a margin of less than 1%.

The closest was Kentucky - which I won by 76 votes out of more than 1.8 million.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 31, 2007, 01:03:28 AM
Hey Polnut in President Forever are you a Governor, Senator, Congressman or maverack businessman? I do remember in P4E your "from" Pennsylvania.

FYI: In President Forever, I'm a liberal Republican Senator from Maine.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 31, 2007, 01:17:43 AM
I have two personas.

1. 54 year old Governor of Pennsylvania

2. 49 year old Billionaire Philanthropist from New York.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 03, 2007, 06:26:39 AM
This is a work in progress - this is the PRIMARY Map that resulted between Clinton and myself.

All the other candidates endorsed me.

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I manged to win IA, NH, NV and SC - but she still flattened me on Super-mega-duper Tuesday (I did win CA - and came that close in NY. But I recovered by winning VA and MD - then moved into mini-Tuesday by taking TX, MA, OH and MN by substantial margins.  My momentum maintained holding onto the Pacific NW - while Clinton had a strangehold on the other border states.

Final delegate count.

NEEDED - 2089

Polnut - 2130

Clinton - 2046

Result of the General election against Romney to come.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 03, 2007, 07:00:27 PM
I chose Richardson as my running-mate.

Because of the pre-convention negative campaign being run by Clinton - I went into the general roughly 3% behind Romney - but more dangerously running a 100 EV deficit.

I maintained a positive campaign - I did use my regular tactic - maintain the base, make sure you have enough EV in the bag to win - then undermine the opponent in their own territory - forcing them to defend their backyard - while I'm able to strengthen my own position. However, that can have a possible backfire consequence - as you'll see, I lost a state I shouldn't have, but also won a couple I shouldn't have.

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Polnut/Richardson - 321 EV - 68,129,282 - 53.3%
Romney/Bush - 217 EV - 59,663,923 - 46.7%

Romney's biggest margin was WY - which he won 64.9 - 35.1%
My biggest margin (apart from DC 90 - 10) was CT - which I won 70.1 - 29.9%

Yes I did win TX and AK - having an almost 9m vote PV win doesn't mean much - as TX, IA, MN, FL were decided by less than 0.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on November 06, 2007, 02:35:58 AM
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2004 - I played Colin Powell instead of Bush:

Powell (R): 67,136,254 59.4% 463 EV
Lieberman (D): 45,923,588 40.6% 75 EV

Closest states:
Nevada, Powell 50.5%
West Virginia, Powell 50.8%
Massachusetts, Lieberman 51.6%

Lieberman's best:
Rhode Island, Lieberman 59.2%

Powell's best:
Idaho 76%

It gave me a result of 60/40 in D.C.... maybe if I had put some resources there.... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on November 22, 2007, 02:23:25 AM
I was Richardson vs Romney, infighting had much to do with the landslide that followed.

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EC:
Richardson: 495
Romney: 43

Pop vote:
Richardson: 58%
Romney: 37%
Liberatarian: 5%

Yes that's right Romeny lost by over 20% of the popular vote...



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Middle-aged Europe on November 29, 2007, 10:52:41 AM
Well, at least he won Utah...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 02, 2007, 12:44:19 AM
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Henry 'Scoop' Jackson/James E. Carter (D): 270 EV, 48.9% (48,774,164)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweitker (R): 268 EV, 49.4% (49,346,657)
Eugene McCarthy/Numerous Running Mates (I): 0 EV, 1.7% (1,715,562)

This was a very weird election. I ran as Henry 'Scoop' Jackson against Ronald Reagan for the Presidency of the United States. I decided not to run a single commercial until the final two weeks of the campaign. It managed to work, with me narrowly becoming 39th President of the United States. Thanks to a narrow victory in Lousiania.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on December 02, 2007, 03:15:42 PM
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Henry 'Scoop' Jackson/James E. Carter (D): 270 EV, 48.9% (48,774,164)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweitker (R): 268 EV, 49.4% (49,346,657)
Eugene McCarthy/Numerous Running Mates (I): 0 EV, 1.7% (1,715,562)

This was a very weird election. I ran as Henry 'Scoop' Jackson against Ronald Reagan for the Presidency of the United States. I decided not to run a single commercial until the final two weeks of the campaign. It managed to work, with me narrowly becoming 39th President of the United States. Thanks to a narrow victory in Lousiania.

very odd result...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on December 04, 2007, 09:19:05 AM
Is there any way to get this for free? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on December 04, 2007, 10:01:10 AM
You can get the trial version, but it doesn't let you finish the election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 10, 2007, 03:16:45 AM
American Government Simulation - 2004

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Adam Yoshida (R): 323 EV, 41% (51,180,924)
Allison Marshall (L): 199 EV, 27% (34,240,724)
Nation Hahn (D): 16 EV, 31% (39,136,812)

A very strange game of President Forever as per usual. This time I added a strong Libertarian candidate to the American Government Simulation scenario. I gave her alot of money, $750,000,000 to be precise and a fair bit of points. For most of the campaign I stayed on 10% in the polls until I released a heap of adds attacking President Yoshida's policy on Military Intervention. This worked and I started to make head way in a few states. This resembles the results in the map above.

My best state was New Hampshire, where I managed to gain about 50% of the vote, with Yoshida and Hahn getting the rest of them.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 10, 2007, 03:49:20 AM
I decided not to run a single commercial until the final two weeks of the campaign. It managed to work, with me narrowly becoming 39th President of the United States. Thanks to a narrow victory in Lousiania.

I usually do that, actually.  Well, sort of.  My tactics is generally to blast the entire nation with 1/3 of the ads I can run somewhere around the halfway to the two-thirds point in the election to stop any momentum the other guy might have in its tracks.  And then I wait x days before the election to run the rest, where x is the number of days I can blast the nation with ads again.  That gets me rolling into the election with more momentum that you can shake a stick at.

I've found it to be highly successful.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 12, 2007, 11:36:34 PM
Well, given things I ran four dems against Huckabee/Sanford (including myself) these were the results. The VP for each was Bayh.

Huckabee v Clinton

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334 - 204

Huckabee v Edwards

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348 - 190

Huckabee v Obama

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313 - 225

Huckabee v Polnut

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398 - 140


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 13, 2007, 03:35:11 AM
In the past two days I have ran a very interesting race as Jay Rockefeller vying for the Democratic Presidential Nomination in 1992. I turned Governor Bill Clinton off and turned on Governor Mario Coumo and Senator Bill Bradley. The race ended up being a tousle between myself and Governor Coumo, at one stage I had a slender 4 delegate lead over Coumo, until my lead increased to 193, thanks to which got me the nomination in '92 :D

Here's the Primary map that resulted between Rockefeller and Coumo. Quite interesting I must admit.

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Jay Rockefeller 1800 Delegates 49.8% of the Popular Vote
Mario Coumo 1607 Delegates 50.2% of the Popular Vote

After I was nominated at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, I selected Senator Bob Graham of Florida to be my running mate. Whilst on the Republican side, President Bush replaced Vice President Quayle with Journalist Pat Buchanan!

This is how the map looked like when all the tickets were finalised on July 21, 1992:

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Jay Rockefeller/Bob Graham (D): 336 EV (39.5%)
George Bush/Pat J. Buchanan (R): 64 EV (33.1%)
H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I): 13 EV (24.4%)
Toss Up/Undecided (T): 125 EV (3%)

As the campaign progressed I attacked both candidates on their Leadership qualities, George Bush's Economic Policy (alot) and Perot's Policy on Bosnia and Somalia. Not to mention I did quite alot of pro-Rockefeller commericials on the Economy, Leadership, Experience and Bosnia and Somalia. On Election Day, I was elected President of the United States defeating President Bush by 8.6% in the polls and by 100 plus EV's here's the map:

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Jay Rockefeller/Bob Graham (D): 353 EV, 42.2% (46,407,923)
George H. Bush/Pat J. Buchanan (R): 174 EV, 33.7% (37,076,433)
H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I): 11 EV, 24.2% (26,612,509)

I narrowly lost both Texas and Florida by narrow margins, Bush beat me 37.6-37.5-24.9 in Florida and 37.7-37.5-26.8 in Texas. I did managed to win New York and New Mexico with more than 50 percent of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 13, 2007, 04:47:15 PM
Cuomo

Everybody seems to have trouble there.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 13, 2007, 05:30:57 PM

Oh for f**k sake. It was one letter off Cuomo being correctly spelt At least I'm not Gporter.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 13, 2007, 07:03:39 PM
I narrowly lost both Texas and Florida by narrow margins.

You're kidding. :P

I'm probably getting President Forever over the weekend, by the way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 13, 2007, 07:06:23 PM

Hey on Election Night, I was both leading Texas and Florida when about 50% of the vote was counted.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 13, 2007, 07:07:55 PM
Let me try again:



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 14, 2007, 09:53:27 PM
I just got the game! W00t!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 15, 2007, 02:20:21 AM

I take it you got President Forever + Primaries. You can actually download 1992 and 2000 scenarios to add upon the default 2008 one. Not to mention a 1976 and a 1968 one. Hope you enjoy. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 15, 2007, 11:06:34 AM

I take it you got President Forever + Primaries. You can actually download 1992 and 2000 scenarios to add upon the default 2008 one. Not to mention a 1976 and a 1968 one. Hope you enjoy. :)

Where? It says there are no scenarios for PF+P other than 2004 and 2000.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reluctant Republican on December 15, 2007, 02:49:17 PM

I take it you got President Forever + Primaries. You can actually download 1992 and 2000 scenarios to add upon the default 2008 one. Not to mention a 1976 and a 1968 one. Hope you enjoy. :)

Where? It says there are no scenarios for PF+P other than 2004 and 2000.

Try the forum on there site.  2000 and 1992 were made, and they have a 1988 and 1976 fan made scenarios. I can't post on the forum for some reason, so I have to wait for someone to upload them to the site, but all of them are available for public download.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on December 15, 2007, 03:43:35 PM
Xahar I would suggest that you also download President Forever, the original I think it may be called 2004 now, which I still think is a far superior game than PF+P, even if it doesn't include primaries, and usually gives results that are much closer to reality than PF+P. Plus the overall amount of user created scenarios for that game is enormous and most are very enjoyable and well done.

Plus the Prime Minister Forever games are pretty damn cool as well, I personally think Chancellor Forever and PM4E Canada 2006 are probably the two best 80soft games.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 15, 2007, 04:24:25 PM
Colin's right you cannot beat old school President Forever, you can run all your ads with just 2 days to go and your right back in the race, even if you haven't run any ads for the whole campaign. It's easier to create candidates in the original then the newer one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 15, 2007, 05:36:08 PM
I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

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Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 15, 2007, 06:28:16 PM
For some reason, Paul always seems to break out and go crazy.  I think it's because one of the new programmers is a Paul supporter himself.  I'm trying to tinker around with this to fix it, and also to make Huckabee's sudden rise much more likely.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on December 15, 2007, 06:36:32 PM

That is why PF+P often gives crazy results, very high numbers for third party candidates that would never achieve such electoral success. This was bad in the original, where third parties often added up to around 4% or 5% of the vote, but it seems to have gotten worse in the new game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 15, 2007, 06:39:36 PM

That is why PF+P often gives crazy results, very high numbers for third party candidates that would never achieve such electoral success. This was bad in the original, where third parties often added up to around 4% or 5% of the vote, but it seems to have gotten worse in the new game.

Peroutka pulled something like 25% in Illinois and Utah. Paul came in 3rd in DC, with 7% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on December 15, 2007, 10:36:38 PM
I played Bill Richardson (D) vs. Rudy (R).  I got Richardson through a primary vs. Edwards (I turned off Hillary and Obama).  He started off WAY down, but I put all of his initial resources into Iowa, NH, and Florida,  - which he won - turning it into a competitive race that wasn't clinched until June.  Rudy was ahead in the general the whole time, but I carefully targeted ads and had 2 Rudy scandals that I released a week out.  This is the closest race I've gotten in P4E

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Richardson 56,837,505 48% / 288 EV
Guiliani 56,602,851 47.8% / 250 EV
Badnarik 2,828,031 2.4% (6.8% in Louisiana)
Peroutka 2,033,978 1.7% (10.7% in Alaska)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 15, 2007, 10:41:45 PM
Funnily, what is odd is that I feel I experience more realistic results with the 08 edition. With 04 I end up winning Kansas and Mississippi all the time by 20-40% margins, but lose NJ or CA by 10%.

The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 15, 2007, 10:51:04 PM
The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.

Are you serious? In the one game I have played (see above), they got 16.4% combined. It was like the Perot factor all over again.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 16, 2007, 01:40:45 AM
The 3rd parties never get more than 5% combined when I play.

Are you serious? In the one game I have played (see above), they got 16.4% combined. It was like the Perot factor all over again.

Yeah.

The only time I've EVER had a third party get over 7% is when I play as a Unity candidate, I usually get between 25 - 29%, and win a few states. But a Badnarik or Peroutka would rarely get above 3%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 16, 2007, 01:45:30 AM
I played Bill Richardson (D) vs. Rudy (R).  I got Richardson through a primary vs. Edwards (I turned off Hillary and Obama).  He started off WAY down, but I put all of his initial resources into Iowa, NH, and Florida,  - which he won - turning it into a competitive race that wasn't clinched until June.  Rudy was ahead in the general the whole time, but I carefully targeted ads and had 2 Rudy scandals that I released a week out.  This is the closest race I've gotten in P4E

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Richardson 56,837,505 48% / 288 EV
Guiliani 56,602,851 47.8% / 250 EV
Badnarik 2,828,031 2.4% (6.8% in Louisiana)
Peroutka 2,033,978 1.7% (10.7% in Alaska)

Wait, you actually played as a Democrat?

...Did you take a shower afterwards? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on December 16, 2007, 09:59:07 AM
Wait, you actually played as a Democrat?

...Did you take a shower afterwards? :P

Sometimes its fun to play the bad guy :)  The Dem primary in P4E is more fun since its not set up as winner take all


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 19, 2007, 03:03:51 AM
I just the Intellectual President 2008 scenario. I turned off the Republican and Democrats and played as Noam Chomsky (Green) against Pat Buchanan (Independent). As per usual I didn't run my commercials until the last 2 weeks of the campaign. Just when I started to gain momentum, a level 13 scandal hit the campaign and lasted until Election Day. On Election Day this is how they predicted it would turn out like:

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Pat Buchanan/Lyndon LaRouche (I): 225 EV, 47% of the PV (-2)
Noam Chomsky/Howard Zinn (G): 137 EV, 44% of the PV (+1)
Undecided (U): 176 EV, 6% of the PV (+1)

The Tossup states on Election Day were the following:

  • Washington - 11 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Oregon - 7 Electoral Vote (Lean Chomsky)
  • Minnesota - 10 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Michigan - 17 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Pennsylvania - 21 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • West Virginia - 5 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • New Hampshire - 4 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • Connecticut - 7 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)
  • New Mexico - 5 Electoral Votes (Lean Chomsky)

  • Arizona - 10 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Illinois - 21 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Georgia - 15 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Florida - 27 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Louisiana - 9 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Maine - 4 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)
  • Delaware - 3 Electoral Votes (Lean Buchanan)

    Like many had predicted, Pat J. Buchanan was elected 44th President of the United States defeating Noam Chomsky. Like the 2000 Presidential Election, Chomsky won the Popular Vote 50-49% but lost in the Electoral College. It always happens to me :(. Anywho here's the results:

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    Pat J. Buchanan/Lyndon LaRouche (I): 286 EV, 49% of the PV (72,060,201)
    Noam Chomsky/Howard Zinn (G): 252 EV, 50% of the PV (74,708,030)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 20, 2007, 12:46:47 AM
Whoa...LaRouche? Vice President? RUN FOR THE HILLS!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 20, 2007, 03:52:29 AM
OK, I ran as my trusty billionaire NYker.

This was the last set of polls before election night.

Obama/Bayh - 35.2% 217 EV
Giuliani/Owens - 36.8% 230 EV
Polnut/Hagel (Unity) - 18.5% 0 EV
Undecided - 9.5% - 91 EV

Final result.

Well... Sorry in advance. I caused some problems, lol.

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Obama/Bayh - 249 EV 43,146,198 - 34.9%
Giuliani/Owens - 289 EV 47,241,985 - 38.2%
Polnut/Hagel - 1 EV 33,360,118 - 27%

Some interesting states.
I beat Obama in (among others) TX, OK, MT, The Dakotas, AK
I beat Giuliani in NY, RI and DC



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 20, 2007, 02:53:12 PM
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Obama/Blanco: 527 EVs, 61%
Huckabee/Martinez: 11 EVs, 38%

the congressional districts are guesses, but Huckabee was only up by 2% in Nebraska.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 20, 2007, 03:36:34 PM
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Obama/Blanco: 527 EVs, 61%
Huckabee/Martinez: 11 EVs, 38%

the congressional districts are guesses, but Huckabee was only up by 2% in Nebraska.

Speaking of Huckabee vs. Obama in President Forever, once I won as Obama with about 500 odd EV's and 71% of the popular vote. Huckaboomed ended up with about 30 EV's or less an 29% of the popular vote. Quite enjoyable really :).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 20, 2007, 07:47:07 PM
Not per say P4E+P, but a cheap futuristic 3096 US Prime Minister election, I played as NE Independence.

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Socialist Party 32% (54,465,751); 58 seats
New Democratic Party 32% (53,807,423); 59 seats [liberal]
Conservative Party 22% (36,961,978); 27 seats
New England Independence 12% (20,864,680); 27 seats [New England secessionist centre-left]


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 21, 2007, 03:10:35 PM
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Powell/Elrich: 535 EV, 61% PV
H. Clinton/Warner: 3 EV, 38% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on December 21, 2007, 03:24:51 PM
I lost every state to Obama by over 80%, except Utah, which I lost by only over 70%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on December 21, 2007, 03:56:31 PM
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Manchurian Candidate: 1956 Scenario; third parties off.

Iselin: 81 EV; 41% PV
Lyman (me): 450 EV; 58% PV

I stopped the attempted communist sabotage of the national government singlehandedly, by defeating Iselin in a landslide.

Delaware, Maine, Arizona, Alabama, Kansas, Idaho were all within two percent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on December 22, 2007, 12:20:48 PM
2000: Lamar Alexander vs. Al Gore

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Alexander 290 EV
53,281,214 / 45.3% PV

Gore 248 EV
56,510,026 / 48% PV

Nader 0EV
7,926,545 / 6.7% PV

I had to pump Alexander's stats just a bit because the default character has all-centrist positions and gets 0% in every state in the primary. (i.e. lazy coders)

I took Bush, McCain, and Dole out of the primary and ran him vs. Forbes, Kasich, Quayle, and Bauer.

LA won the Electoral Vote, but lost the popular vote by almost 3%  Lots of states went for LA by very small margins, and Nader's vote was high - highest was 18.6% in MT.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon on December 22, 2007, 01:04:51 PM
For some reason, Paul always seems to break out and go crazy.  I think it's because one of the new programmers is a Paul supporter himself.  I'm trying to tinker around with this to fix it, and also to make Huckabee's sudden rise much more likely.

Give Focus on the Family (or create a new endorser) a big momentum bonus that triggers in late November to mimick the Huckaboom.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 22, 2007, 04:50:38 PM
2000: Lamar Alexander vs. Al Gore

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Alexander 290 EV
53,281,214 / 45.3% PV

Gore 248 EV
56,510,026 / 48% PV

Nader 0EV
7,926,545 / 6.7% PV

I had to pump Alexander's stats just a bit because the default character has all-centrist positions and gets 0% in every state in the primary. (i.e. lazy coders)

I took Bush, McCain, and Dole out of the primary and ran him vs. Forbes, Kasich, Quayle, and Bauer.

LA won the Electoral Vote, but lost the popular vote by almost 3%  Lots of states went for LA by very small margins, and Nader's vote was high - highest was 18.6% in MT.

That's President Forever + Primaries for you, weird results. I've had many of games turn out like that before.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on December 28, 2007, 12:10:20 AM
I ran as Badnarik and also ran as Bayh, Gore, Warner, Frist and Allen in the primaries. With exactly a year left, all 5 dropped out and endorsed Badnarik (of course I had them all be with the same platform: social liberal/fiscal conservative with many moderate planks on both sides). All candidates were winning their states before they dropped out. This is still with the demo (yoohoo, I'm finally getting the real game now!)

Final Results (before the game ended)

Giuliani 33.7%/260 EV
Clinton 26.8%/110 EV
Badnarik 17.4%/96 EV
Undecided 22.2%/72 EV

Add up the EV where the states are too close to call:

Giuliani 282 EV
Clinton 160 EV
Badnarik 96 EV

I won SD, TX, TN, VA, WV, NC, AL & MS. Here's the map:

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I almost came close to winning 100 EV.





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 28, 2007, 12:13:25 AM
What's with CA?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 28, 2007, 12:14:15 AM
I ran as Badnarik and also ran as Bayh, Gore, Warner, Frist and Allen in the primaries. With exactly a year left, all 5 dropped out and endorsed Badnarik (of course I had them all be with the same platform: social liberal/fiscal conservative with many moderate planks on both sides). All candidates were winning their states before they dropped out. This is still with the demo (yoohoo, I'm finally getting the real game now!)

Final Results (before the game ended)

Giuliani 33.7%/260 EV
Clinton 26.8%/110 EV
Badnarik 17.4%/96 EV
Undecided 22.2%/72 EV

Add up the EV where the states are too close to call:

Giuliani 282 EV
Clinton 160 EV
Badnarik 96 EV

I won SD, TX, TN, VA, WV, NC, AL & MS. Here's the map:

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I almost came close to winning 100 EV.


How the HELL did that happen? DId you give Badnairk $999,000,000 dollars?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on December 28, 2007, 02:07:41 AM
I swear to God I don't know how I got 96 EV myself. I had like $2 million when I was endorsed (but I don't know how to give a candidate money) and used it to run ads. It's funny, I got Perot'92 numbers but won EV and didn't have that much money. CA went Giuliani because I played "spoiler" and got almost 8%. I must admit that part of my success was to have the low-tier candidates focus on winning states in the primaries. My crusaders, Russo and Thompson, campaigned everywhere except NH (not on the ballot) and Badnarik barnstormed here and there but mainly focused on raising money. I also had many foot soldiers and got endorsed by the pro-guns group so that may've helped too. I'm not sure if this is part of how Gabu's strategy works but I thank him. I would like to know though how I can give a candidate money and if a candidate that ran in a primary can run under another banner. Before I forget, all the candidates that dropped out gave Badnarik political points. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 28, 2007, 02:12:33 PM
How do you make yourself a candidate?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 28, 2007, 02:20:21 PM
CanEditor


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 28, 2007, 08:45:01 PM
Speaking of creating yourself in President Forever + Primaries, that's exactly what I have done in the last couple of days. I created myself Senator Conor Flynn (R-ME). I'm a moderate Senator of course ;). I usually start off last in the polls but I start to gain my momentum in late December. In my two games running as myself, I usually win New Hampshire and win most of the Northeast and Western primaries and along the way surprisingly get the endorsements of Mike Huckabee and Sam Brownback. Then it's usually just me and Mitt fighting for the nomination, eventhough I've already got a guaranteed amount of Delegate votes. When it comes to the General Election it's usually me against Barack. But I do really bad against him, once I even lost most of the South and thus the Election. What's even weirder is that former President Carter endorsed me likewise with Bill Ritter and Barack got the endorsement of all the right-wing institutes and President Bush!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 28, 2007, 09:47:48 PM
How the HELL did that happen? DId you give Badnairk $999,000,000 dollars?

I've done a similar thing.  What I did was restart the game over and over until every single endorsement was worth money, and then I put everything into getting all four endorsements.  Then that gives you enough money to make a sizable dent in the proceedings.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on December 28, 2007, 10:10:33 PM
Whoa Gabu, would you mind telling me how's your strategy? Do you use the same thing when you're running as an indy or 3rd party candidate? Thanks!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 28, 2007, 10:55:47 PM
Whoa Gabu, would you mind telling me how's your strategy? Do you use the same thing when you're running as an indy or 3rd party candidate? Thanks!

Well, the main force of my strategy is always a two-part ad burst, preferably to the entire nation, but certainly to as many states at the same time as you can.  I throw out one about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through the campaign to halt any advancements my opponent(s) might be making - if you let them go for too long, they'll have wrapped up too much of the nation for you to be able to win them back at the end.  I then throw out the second one as close to the end as I can such that I'll just run out of money right on election day.  This is for two reasons.  For one, positive momentum going into the election is huge; running out of money right on the last day after a massive ad blitz ensures that you have the maximum momentum on election day.  For two, the "X's campaign out of funds" negative newspaper headline does not appear until the day after you run out of money - if you run out of money on election day, it will never appear.

As a third-party candidate, my strategy has always been to win all of the endorsements right away, focusing on those with an attached monetary benefit first (as you can do this with no expenditure whatsoever) and then I simply spend the entire campaign fund raising.  This ensures that I will be able to run the ads when I go to do so for as long and to as many states as possible.

One thing to recognize about President Forever is that momentum is huge.  The more momentum you have, the more you can get later.  If one of your opponents is beginning to gain the edge, a one-day ad blitz to the entire nation can easily get you momentum well into the three digits, which will completely and utterly obliterate the advantage your opponent was having.  The ad campaign is not sustainable; once the ad stops and the momentum wears off, things will go right back to where they were before.  The trick is to time it just right so that the nation is right where you want it on election day.

Oh yes, and always be researching a scandal on your strongest opponent.  The best thing a third-party candidate can possibly have is for both major party candidates to have negative momentum.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 29, 2007, 10:02:40 AM
I beat Thompson 55-45 in the PV and 361-177 in the EV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 29, 2007, 07:44:22 PM
I beat Thompson 55-45 in the PV and 361-177 in the EV.

Could you post a map next time? I'm always interested in other peoples campaigns in P4E.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 29, 2007, 08:45:37 PM
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I beat Thompson 403-135 in the EC, and won the PV 56.8-43.2.  I lost Kansas by 900 votes, and lost Georgia by 1,379.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 29, 2007, 11:12:39 PM
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I beat Thompson 403-135 in the EC, and won the PV 56.8-43.2.  I lost Kansas by 900 votes, and lost Georgia by 1,379.

But you didn't flip WV or VA? Odd.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 29, 2007, 11:14:22 PM
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I beat Thompson 403-135 in the EC, and won the PV 56.8-43.2.  I lost Kansas by 900 votes, and lost Georgia by 1,379.

But you didn't flip WV or VA? Odd.

That's the magical essence of President Forever + Primaries for you. Take a look at my Jackson vs. Reagan map from when I was playing the 1976 scenario. Now that's weird and President Forever + Primaries for you.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 29, 2007, 11:26:12 PM
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I beat Thompson 403-135 in the EC, and won the PV 56.8-43.2.  I lost Kansas by 900 votes, and lost Georgia by 1,379.

But you didn't flip WV or VA? Odd.

At the end of the campaign I focused on FL and OH.  I didn't think the campaign was going to be as lopsided as it turned out to be.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2007, 05:10:53 AM
Whoa Gabu, would you mind telling me how's your strategy? Do you use the same thing when you're running as an indy or 3rd party candidate? Thanks!

Well, the main force of my strategy is always a two-part ad burst, preferably to the entire nation, but certainly to as many states at the same time as you can.  I throw out one about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through the campaign to halt any advancements my opponent(s) might be making - if you let them go for too long, they'll have wrapped up too much of the nation for you to be able to win them back at the end.  I then throw out the second one as close to the end as I can such that I'll just run out of money right on election day.  This is for two reasons.  For one, positive momentum going into the election is huge; running out of money right on the last day after a massive ad blitz ensures that you have the maximum momentum on election day.  For two, the "X's campaign out of funds" negative newspaper headline does not appear until the day after you run out of money - if you run out of money on election day, it will never appear.

As a third-party candidate, my strategy has always been to win all of the endorsements right away, focusing on those with an attached monetary benefit first (as you can do this with no expenditure whatsoever) and then I simply spend the entire campaign fund raising.  This ensures that I will be able to run the ads when I go to do so for as long and to as many states as possible.

One thing to recognize about President Forever is that momentum is huge.  The more momentum you have, the more you can get later.  If one of your opponents is beginning to gain the edge, a one-day ad blitz to the entire nation can easily get you momentum well into the three digits, which will completely and utterly obliterate the advantage your opponent was having.  The ad campaign is not sustainable; once the ad stops and the momentum wears off, things will go right back to where they were before.  The trick is to time it just right so that the nation is right where you want it on election day.

Oh yes, and always be researching a scandal on your strongest opponent.  The best thing a third-party candidate can possibly have is for both major party candidates to have negative momentum.

I just ran as Nader in 2000 with the above strategy and this was the result:

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Basically I did all the endorsements and made four ads: Leadership/Nader, Experience/Nader, Leadership/Attacking Bush, and Integrity/Attacking Gore.  I then put all these ads into the states with 3-5 EVs and calculated how long I could run them for (it came out to 5 days).  So I then ran all four ads once a week for five weeks (I realized that since it takes a while for your momentum to die down, it's actually better to spread out your ad blitzes instead of running them for consecutive days).  Then I blasted the whole nation with all four ads on the last day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on December 30, 2007, 06:48:44 AM
Whoa Gabu, would you mind telling me how's your strategy? Do you use the same thing when you're running as an indy or 3rd party candidate? Thanks!

Well, the main force of my strategy is always a two-part ad burst, preferably to the entire nation, but certainly to as many states at the same time as you can.  I throw out one about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through the campaign to halt any advancements my opponent(s) might be making - if you let them go for too long, they'll have wrapped up too much of the nation for you to be able to win them back at the end.  I then throw out the second one as close to the end as I can such that I'll just run out of money right on election day.  This is for two reasons.  For one, positive momentum going into the election is huge; running out of money right on the last day after a massive ad blitz ensures that you have the maximum momentum on election day.  For two, the "X's campaign out of funds" negative newspaper headline does not appear until the day after you run out of money - if you run out of money on election day, it will never appear.

As a third-party candidate, my strategy has always been to win all of the endorsements right away, focusing on those with an attached monetary benefit first (as you can do this with no expenditure whatsoever) and then I simply spend the entire campaign fund raising.  This ensures that I will be able to run the ads when I go to do so for as long and to as many states as possible.

One thing to recognize about President Forever is that momentum is huge.  The more momentum you have, the more you can get later.  If one of your opponents is beginning to gain the edge, a one-day ad blitz to the entire nation can easily get you momentum well into the three digits, which will completely and utterly obliterate the advantage your opponent was having.  The ad campaign is not sustainable; once the ad stops and the momentum wears off, things will go right back to where they were before.  The trick is to time it just right so that the nation is right where you want it on election day.

Oh yes, and always be researching a scandal on your strongest opponent.  The best thing a third-party candidate can possibly have is for both major party candidates to have negative momentum.

I just ran as Nader in 2000 with the above strategy and this was the result:

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Basically I did all the endorsements and made four ads: Leadership/Nader, Experience/Nader, Leadership/Attacking Bush, and Integrity/Attacking Gore.  I then put all these ads into the states with 3-5 EVs and calculated how long I could run them for (it came out to 5 days).  So I then ran all four ads once a week for five weeks (I realized that since it takes a while for your momentum to die down, it's actually better to spread out your ad blitzes instead of running them for consecutive days).  Then I blasted the whole nation with all four ads on the last day.
I also tried with Nader using about the same strategy except I didn't only target small states with my ads. I made them national ads every time I put them up.
Here are the results:
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Nader managed to win Alaska and Nebraska, also he came pretty close to winning in Georgia, New Mexico and Conneticut. Oh and California was really weird....
National vote:
Bush: 38%
Gore: 36%
Nader: 15%
Others: 11% (Buchanan was able to get 6%!)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2007, 07:11:23 AM
I also tried with Nader using about the same strategy except I didn't only target small states with my ads. I made them national ads every time I put them up.
Here are the results:
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Nader managed to win Alaska and Nebraska, also he came pretty close to winning in Georgia, New Mexico and Conneticut. Oh and California was really weird....
National vote:
Bush: 38%
Gore: 36%
Nader: 15%
Others: 11% (Buchanan was able to get 6%!)

Targeting small states I've found is better than making it national as a third party because since you don't have the money that the major party candidates have, you get severely restricted on how long you can run your ads, and just running them for a single day doesn't do that much.  I've found that your best results come from running your ads in as many states as you can, but making sure you can run your ads for at least four to five days in the states that you've set aside.  You'll never win as a candidate who was totally irrelevant in the actual election in real life, but if you use this strategy, you can pick up quite a fair number of states and play spoiler (as I did above).  I think that Nader hit 22% nationwide in my run.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 30, 2007, 08:11:16 AM
I just played as Orville Faubus for kicks in 1960 (he got 0.07% of the vote in real life) and got this:

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I got 16% of the vote, good for 15 EVs, and thus spoiling the election for Nixon, who only managed to get 267 EVs and then Congress voted for Kennedy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on December 30, 2007, 09:35:59 AM
I end up beating Romney most regularly and most brutally.

This was the map of my biggest victory.

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Romney/Hagel - 52 EV - 41.9%
Polnut/Warner - 486 EV - 58.1%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on December 30, 2007, 09:49:44 AM
could someone run me against Romney?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 30, 2007, 12:27:42 PM
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I beat Romney 515-23 in the EC and 61.1-38.9 in the PV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 30, 2007, 01:01:01 PM
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Constine: 62.3% PV, 529 EV
Giuliani: 37.7% PV, 9 EV
As goes Utah, so goes Idaho...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 30, 2007, 03:19:31 PM
I just played as Orville Faubus for kicks in 1960 (he got 0.07% of the vote in real life) and got this:

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I got 16% of the vote, good for 15 EVs, and thus spoiling the election for Nixon, who only managed to get 267 EVs and then Congress voted for Kennedy.

Speaking of Faubus, once I managed to get 243 Electoral Votes as him! But of course the United States Congress voted for Senator Kennedy, who only received about 90 Electoral Votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on December 30, 2007, 04:46:52 PM
Whoa Gabu, would you mind telling me how's your strategy? Do you use the same thing when you're running as an indy or 3rd party candidate? Thanks!

Well, the main force of my strategy is always a two-part ad burst, preferably to the entire nation, but certainly to as many states at the same time as you can.  I throw out one about 1/2 to 2/3 of the way through the campaign to halt any advancements my opponent(s) might be making - if you let them go for too long, they'll have wrapped up too much of the nation for you to be able to win them back at the end.  I then throw out the second one as close to the end as I can such that I'll just run out of money right on election day.  This is for two reasons.  For one, positive momentum going into the election is huge; running out of money right on the last day after a massive ad blitz ensures that you have the maximum momentum on election day.  For two, the "X's campaign out of funds" negative newspaper headline does not appear until the day after you run out of money - if you run out of money on election day, it will never appear.

As a third-party candidate, my strategy has always been to win all of the endorsements right away, focusing on those with an attached monetary benefit first (as you can do this with no expenditure whatsoever) and then I simply spend the entire campaign fund raising.  This ensures that I will be able to run the ads when I go to do so for as long and to as many states as possible.

One thing to recognize about President Forever is that momentum is huge.  The more momentum you have, the more you can get later.  If one of your opponents is beginning to gain the edge, a one-day ad blitz to the entire nation can easily get you momentum well into the three digits, which will completely and utterly obliterate the advantage your opponent was having.  The ad campaign is not sustainable; once the ad stops and the momentum wears off, things will go right back to where they were before.  The trick is to time it just right so that the nation is right where you want it on election day.

Oh yes, and always be researching a scandal on your strongest opponent.  The best thing a third-party candidate can possibly have is for both major party candidates to have negative momentum.

I just ran as Nader in 2000 with the above strategy and this was the result:

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Basically I did all the endorsements and made four ads: Leadership/Nader, Experience/Nader, Leadership/Attacking Bush, and Integrity/Attacking Gore.  I then put all these ads into the states with 3-5 EVs and calculated how long I could run them for (it came out to 5 days).  So I then ran all four ads once a week for five weeks (I realized that since it takes a while for your momentum to die down, it's actually better to spread out your ad blitzes instead of running them for consecutive days).  Then I blasted the whole nation with all four ads on the last day.

Do you play using the Primary mode or General Election mode? Anyways, I always try to have my crusaders barnstorm in as many states as I want (usually it's every state except NH) and this helps me when I'm raising money. I always run my ads in the smallest states and sometimes I barnstorm there as well. When I get the pro-gun rights endorsement, I see if any states where footsoldiers are located focus on the small states I'm targeting. If so, I keep the ads running there and barnstorm in the other states. Anyways, I will admit that I always play using the Primary mode and I self-endorsed Badnarik (playing as Gore, Warner, Bayh, Frist and Allen). How about you Gabu, do you do the same thing or are your results thanks to the GE mode?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on December 30, 2007, 07:06:34 PM
I ran as Bloomberg in 2008, though I had to put him in the Liberatarian Party (I changed all their positions though so it basically became the Bloomberg cult party). I gave him around 100 million or so, clearly he would be able to spend at least that much in a presdiential race.

here are the results:
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Popular vote:
Bloomberg: 34%
Clinton: 31.5%
Romney: 29.5%
Pertouka: 5%

So Bloomberg came 7 EV's short of the presidency, the democratic congress elected Clinton to office. Closest state: Florida which would have been even worse than 2000 because the three major candidates were all within 6,000 votes of each other (Romney then Bloomberg about 2000 less and Clinton 4000 less than Bloomberg). Yeah it would have been a blood bath in the days after the election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on December 31, 2007, 02:24:27 AM
Speaking of Faubus, once I managed to get 243 Electoral Votes as him! But of course the United States Congress voted for Senator Kennedy, who only received about 90 Electoral Votes.

How on Earth did you manage that?

Do you play using the Primary mode or General Election mode? Anyways, I always try to have my crusaders barnstorm in as many states as I want (usually it's every state except NH) and this helps me when I'm raising money. I always run my ads in the smallest states and sometimes I barnstorm there as well. When I get the pro-gun rights endorsement, I see if any states where footsoldiers are located focus on the small states I'm targeting. If so, I keep the ads running there and barnstorm in the other states. Anyways, I will admit that I always play using the Primary mode and I self-endorsed Badnarik (playing as Gore, Warner, Bayh, Frist and Allen). How about you Gabu, do you do the same thing or are your results thanks to the GE mode?

General election mode; I rarely bother with primaries.  Primaries are an entirely different matter, obviously.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 31, 2007, 05:20:06 AM
Speaking of Faubus, once I managed to get 243 Electoral Votes as him! But of course the United States Congress voted for Senator Kennedy, who only received about 90 Electoral Votes.

How on Earth did you manage that?

I honestly cannot remember Gabu, it was such a long time ago.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on January 15, 2008, 07:03:30 AM
I think it's obvious who the programmers of this game support, as both Kucinich and Paul consistently recieve more of the primary vote than they should be getting.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on January 19, 2008, 11:25:00 PM
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From P4E+P.

Obama/Feingold: 538 EV, 68.4%
Guiliani/Hagel: 0 EV, 31.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 20, 2008, 04:14:26 PM
Here's a result Xahar might like:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 20, 2008, 04:22:50 PM
Here's a result Xahar might like:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. :D Who did you play as?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 20, 2008, 04:28:08 PM
Here's a result Xahar might like:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. :D Who did you play as?

Roosevelt.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 20, 2008, 04:29:26 PM
Here's a result Xahar might like:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. :D Who did you play as?

Roosevelt.

This is one of those times I wish I had the original version.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 20, 2008, 04:30:20 PM
Here's a result Xahar might like:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. :D Who did you play as?

Roosevelt.

This is one of those times I wish I had the original version.

You know that you can download it for $9.99 right?  I have the original version and PF+P.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 20, 2008, 04:35:40 PM
Here's a result Xahar might like:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 285 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 129 EV
Taft: 26% PV, 65 EV
Debs: 19% PV, 52 EV

You bet I do. :D Who did you play as?

Roosevelt.

This is one of those times I wish I had the original version.

You know that you can download it for $9.99 right?  I have the original version and PF+P.

Yeah, but I've pretty much exhausted all my gift-recieving capital with my parents until my birthday.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 20, 2008, 05:34:25 PM
I took a page of Xahar’s book and played as Debs:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 234 EV
Debs: 21% PV, 141 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 133 EV
Taft: 23% PV, 23 EV

Congress elected Wilson, even tough he came in second in the PV and third in the EV, sorry Xahar :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on January 20, 2008, 05:41:22 PM
I took a page of Xahar’s book and played as Debs:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 234 EV
Debs: 21% PV, 141 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 133 EV
Taft: 23% PV, 23 EV

Congress elected Wilson, even tough he came in second in the PV and third in the EV, sorry Xahar :P

How on Earth did Taft win Alabama. In the early 20th century ???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on January 20, 2008, 05:42:20 PM
I took a page of Xahar’s book and played as Debs:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 234 EV
Debs: 21% PV, 141 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 133 EV
Taft: 23% PV, 23 EV

Congress elected Wilson, even tough he came in second in the PV and third in the EV, sorry Xahar :P

Aww man. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 20, 2008, 05:55:42 PM
I took a page of Xahar’s book and played as Debs:
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Roosevelt: 27% PV, 234 EV
Debs: 21% PV, 141 EV
Wilson: 26% PV, 133 EV
Taft: 23% PV, 23 EV

Congress elected Wilson, even tough he came in second in the PV and third in the EV, sorry Xahar :P

How on Earth did Taft win Alabama. In the early 20th century ???

I have no idea, it is really weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 21, 2008, 04:37:54 AM
I think I once played as Debs and actually managed to win.  I should try that again; it was awesome. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 30, 2008, 03:25:06 PM
Is there a way to create endorsers?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on January 30, 2008, 07:59:09 PM

Yes. Modify the endorsers list in the scenario folder, i'd assume.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 30, 2008, 08:10:05 PM

Yes. Modify the endorsers list in the scenario folder, i'd assume.

Tried that, didn't work.  Does anyone else have an idea?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 30, 2008, 09:17:31 PM
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Bush: 36.6% PV, 270 EV
Clinton(me): 38.7% PV, 251 EV
Perot: 24.7% PV, 17 EV


With 98% reporting in Texas, I was ahead.  I ended up losing the state by 331 votes.  Same story in Florida, but I lost there by 3,282.  I lost Connecticut by 13,000 votes, South Dakota by 590 votes, Colorado by 20,000 votes, and West Virginia by 9,000 votes.  A heartbreaking loss.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on January 30, 2008, 11:44:27 PM
1912 - Wilson vs. Taft vs. Roosevelt vs. Debs (me)

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Debs: 490 EVs - 57% PV
Taft: 41 EVs - 16% PV
Wilson: 0 EVs - 13% PV
Roosevelt: 0 EVs - 12% PV

LOL DEBS


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on January 31, 2008, 08:04:19 AM
Lol @ the South


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on January 31, 2008, 10:57:32 PM
1992 - Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot vs. Buchanan (me)

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Yellow = Buchanan Red = Clinton Blue = Bush


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on February 01, 2008, 12:45:14 AM
1992 - Clinton vs. Bush vs. Perot vs. Buchanan (me)

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Yellow = Buchanan Red = Clinton Blue = Bush

I HATE YOU!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 01, 2008, 01:45:45 AM
1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

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Wallace: 517 EVs - 56% PV
Nixon: 19 EVs - 23% PV
Humphrey: 3 EVs - 20% PV

lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on February 01, 2008, 01:49:30 AM
1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

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Wallace: 517 EVs - 56% PV
Nixon: 19 EVs - 23% PV
Humphrey: 3 EVs - 20% PV

lol

How much money did you give George Wallace Gabu? $999,000,000 dollars? I just realised that Wallace won DC! LOL ;D.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 01, 2008, 01:59:56 AM
1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

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Wallace: 517 EVs - 56% PV
Nixon: 19 EVs - 23% PV
Humphrey: 3 EVs - 20% PV

lol

How much money did you give George Wallace Gabu? $999,000,000 dollars? I just realised that Wallace won DC! LOL ;D.

I didn't change the scenario one bit. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 01, 2008, 02:06:51 AM
Just for fun, I decided to see how ridiculous a victory I could get as Reagan.

1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan (me)

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Reagan: 538 EVs - 78% PV
Mondale: 0 EVs - 21% PV

And then the Democratic Party disbanded. :P

I just missed getting 90% in Utah; I won there 89.5-10.4.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 01, 2008, 02:27:41 AM
Just for fun, I decided to see how ridiculous a victory I could get as Reagan.

1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan (me)

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Reagan: 538 EVs - 78% PV
Mondale: 0 EVs - 21% PV

And then the Democratic Party disbanded. :P

I just missed getting 90% in Utah; I won there 89.5-10.4.

what is your strategy to get these crazy wins???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 01, 2008, 02:51:45 AM
I tried as Romney once - I didn't spend a cent on advertising - and I didn't leave UT

I still won 130 EV and 42% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 01, 2008, 03:14:34 AM
Just for fun, I decided to see how ridiculous a victory I could get as Reagan.

1984 - Mondale vs. Reagan (me)

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Reagan: 538 EVs - 78% PV
Mondale: 0 EVs - 21% PV

And then the Democratic Party disbanded. :P

I just missed getting 90% in Utah; I won there 89.5-10.4.

what is your strategy to get these crazy wins???

It's basically a blatant abuse of the way the game overdoes the effect of momentum.  I make four ads and then just blast the entire nation with them intermittently such that I go hard in the negative cash on the very last day of the campaign.  That basically keeps my momentum up at such a ridiculously high level that I just roll over the other guys.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 01, 2008, 07:35:52 PM
1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

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Wallace: 517 EVs - 56% PV
Nixon: 19 EVs - 23% PV
Humphrey: 3 EVs - 20% PV

lol

AK?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Gabu on February 01, 2008, 07:47:27 PM
1968 - Humphrey vs. Nixon vs. Wallace (me)

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Wallace: 517 EVs - 56% PV
Nixon: 19 EVs - 23% PV
Humphrey: 3 EVs - 20% PV

lol

AK?

Yeah, I really don't know.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 03, 2008, 01:04:29 PM
Weird results:
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Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 03, 2008, 01:16:15 PM
Weird results:
(
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Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

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Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 03, 2008, 01:17:43 PM
Weird results:
(
)
Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

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Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 03, 2008, 01:19:16 PM
Weird results:
(
)
Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

(
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Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 03, 2008, 01:21:49 PM
Weird results:
(
)
Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

(
)

Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.

I've never had third parties do that well; they usually combine for around 2%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 03, 2008, 01:29:45 PM
Weird results:
(
)
Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

(
)

Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.

I've never had third parties do that well; they usually combine for around 2%.

On PF+P? Are you kidding?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 03, 2008, 01:31:40 PM
Weird results:
(
)
Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

(
)

Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.

I've never had third parties do that well; they usually combine for around 2%.

On PF+P? Are you kidding?

Not kidding.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 03, 2008, 01:34:19 PM
Weird results:
(
)
Clinton: 57.5% PV, 349 EV
Romney: 42.5% PV, 189 EV

My best state was Maryland, which I won 75-25; Romney's best state was Wyoming, with 57.5%.  I ran 74.6 in MA, and 73.2 in NY.  I hit him with a high level scandal right at the end, and ran so many ads that I ran out of funds in the final days of the campaign.

This is weird. Look at Utah:

I started out playing as Gore, with Clinton and Obama turned off. My campaign was looking good, but Edwards took leads in all the pre-Super Tuesday states, killing my momentum. Nevertheless, I took it all the way to the convention, with Edwards getting the nomination and choosing Barbara Boxer as his running mate.

On the Republican side, Huckabee and Romney got off to terrible starts, with Thompson taking much of the South and McCain getting the rest. However, soon I saw Ron Paul winning primaries left and right! It soon became a three-way race between Paul, Giuliani and McCain. When Giuliani dropped out, McCain seemed set to win, but he inexplicably dropped out and endorsed Paul, who selected Huckabee as his running mate.

Paul was not a strong candidate, and much of the South opened up to me right away. Although I ran a lackluster campaign, this is how it turned out:

(
)

Edwards/Boxer: 339, 44.6%
Paul/Huckabee: 199, 38.9%
Peroutka: 9.4%
Badnarik: 7%

That is weird.  Where did you finish in Utah?

Second, very close to third. Me and Peroutka each got about 25%.

I've never had third parties do that well; they usually combine for around 2%.

On PF+P? Are you kidding?

Not kidding.

Weird. I still can't believe I won TX and OK and lost MI, WV, and NH.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 03, 2008, 04:13:43 PM
AutoUpdate just delivered a 1992 scenario for PF+P. I plan on playing it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 03, 2008, 04:15:03 PM
AutoUpdate just delivered a 1992 scenario for PF+P. I plan on playing it.

If you go to the page before this one, you'll see a heartbreaking election that the 1992 scenario gave me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 03, 2008, 04:28:40 PM
AutoUpdate just delivered a 1992 scenario for PF+P. I plan on playing it.

If you go to the page before this one, you'll see a heartbreaking election that the 1992 scenario gave me.

Yeah, I saw that.

Playing as Clinton, this is how the GE situation looks at the beginning of primaries:

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:)

Two weeks later, the Democrats have leads in MN and IA, Bush leads in VA, IN, MS, and ND (losing AL), and Perot has lost all states but ME.

Headline on January 20:

Clinton Cheated On Hillary, With Flowers!

wtf?

Headline on January 29:

Bush Comfortably Ahead Of Perot In Polls

Uh-oh.

Headline on February 5:

Jerry Brown's Disturbing Behavior: Is He Crazy?

LOL

I beat Tsongas 1970 to 1437. On to the GE!

Tickets:
George Bush/Pete Wilson (Dump Quayle?)
Bill Clinton/Lloyd Bentsen (We are going to OWN the South!)
Ross Perot/Pat Choate (Not sure either.)

September 1:
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Not particularly optimistic.

Headlines on September 11:

Clinton Scandal!!!
Clinton Scandal!!!
Clinton Scandal!!!

That's right, three.

September 14, feeling better:

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Texas helps.

September 20:

The San Francisco Chronicle and San Jose Mercury News just endorsed Bush. I'm confused.

September 28:

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It's over.

October 6, if the election happened today:

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267-241-30

Election night; Bush has won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 04, 2008, 09:20:51 PM
Can we get a map?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 04, 2008, 09:27:05 PM

Soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 06, 2008, 05:10:54 PM
Still waiting for that map...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 06, 2008, 06:32:04 PM

It's on my home computer. I'll get it on about the time you go (or at least, should go) to bed. Sorry.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on February 06, 2008, 06:57:43 PM
Has anybody played as Paul running as a Libertarian and if so how did you do?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 06, 2008, 07:13:20 PM

It's on my home computer. I'll get it on about the time you go (or at least, should go) to bed. Sorry.

Damn :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 07, 2008, 06:52:40 PM
What about that map?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 07, 2008, 07:00:17 PM

Due to unforseen circmstances (dentist's appoinment yesterday), I was unable to post the map. You'll have to get up in the middle of the night (which, seemingly, is nothing unusual for you) to see it. Sorry. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on February 07, 2008, 10:39:38 PM
Has anybody played as Paul running as a Libertarian and if so how did you do?

Me. I actually won Idaho. Of course I turned the Democratic party into kind of a Communist party...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 07, 2008, 10:50:59 PM
Sorry. My computer got messed, up, and therefor no results will be forthcoming...

I lost IL. It was that ugly.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on February 07, 2008, 11:08:48 PM
2004 Primaries
January 7th, before Iowa.
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Green- Wesley Clark
Dark Blue- Gephardt
Light Blue- Dean
Dark Red- Edwards
Pink- Kerry
Gray- Tossup

Iowa:
Howard Dean 34%
Dick Gephardt 31%
John Kerry 7%
John Edwards 3%
Wesley Clark 3%
Undecided 20%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 07, 2008, 11:10:26 PM
2004 Primaries
January 7th, before Iowa.
(
)
Green- Wesley Clark
Dark Blue- Gephardt
Light Blue- Dean
Dark Red- Edwards
Pink- Kerry
Gray- Tossup

Iowa:
Howard Dean 34%
Dick Gephardt 31%
John Kerry 7%
John Edwards 3%
Wesley Clark 3%
Undecided 20%

Stop playing PF and get to work on that damn essay. :P

Who are you playing as?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on February 08, 2008, 04:49:14 AM
Has anybody played as Paul running as a Libertarian and if so how did you do?

Me. I actually won Idaho. Of course I turned the Democratic party into kind of a Communist party...

And let me guess: you turned the Republicans into Fascists and the Libertarians into moderates?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on February 08, 2008, 02:51:46 PM
Has anybody played as Paul running as a Libertarian and if so how did you do?

Me. I actually won Idaho. Of course I turned the Democratic party into kind of a Communist party...

And let me guess: you turned the Republicans into Fascists and the Libertarians into moderates?

Yep.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 08, 2008, 03:47:34 PM
2004 Primaries
January 14th, before Iowa.
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Blue-John Kerry (me)
Green-Wesley Clark
Red-John Edwards
Yellow-Howard Dean
Gray- Tossup

Iowa:
Howard Dean: 13.1%
Richard Gephardt: 11.9%
Wesley Clark: 11.7%
John Kerry: 8.6%
John Edwards: 6.4%
Bob Graham: 5%
Undecided: 35.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 08, 2008, 04:32:42 PM
One of the weirdest results ever:
(
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Kerry: 50% PV, 269 EV
Bush: 50% PV, 269 EV
The House elected Bush :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on February 08, 2008, 04:33:37 PM
One of the weirdest results ever:
(
)
Kerry: 50% PV, 269 EV
Bush: 50% PV, 269 EV
The House elected Bush :P

That is weird. What was the margin in MA Ben?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 08, 2008, 04:39:43 PM
One of the weirdest results ever:
(
)
Kerry: 50% PV, 269 EV
Bush: 50% PV, 269 EV
The House elected Bush :P

That is weird. What was the margin in MA Ben?

5 points, 52.5-47.5


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on February 08, 2008, 05:30:10 PM
1956: Manchurian Candidate

I ran as Senator Jordan Lyman of Kansas (the Democratic candidate) against Senator John Iselin (the Republican candidate). As always, I didn't run a single add until the final week of the campaign. This is how it looked like going into Election Night '56:

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Sen. John Iselin (R): 393 EV, 51%
Sen. Jordan Lyman (D): 99 EV, 41%
Tossup/Undecided (O): 39 EV, 4%

And here's how I rebounded and almost won the Presidency of the United States as Senator Jordan Lyman!

(
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Sen. John Iselin (R): 298 EV, 50% (39,616,126)
Sen. Jordan Lyman (D): 233 EV, 49% (38,594,138)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on February 11, 2008, 02:59:35 PM
I played this last night.. I swear, sometimes this game is tremendous. Other times, you look at the results, and you think... really?! WTF?!

Hillary had a lead in the polls for the most part, until Dennis Kucinich came in and took New Hampshire, and South Carolina. He lagged right behind Hillary, and he even won Texas, California, Florida, and a few other contests very handidly. Everyone endrosed Hillary except for Richardson, who supported Dennis. For some reason, after leading by 4 points, Hillary dropped out and endorsed Kucinich. He choose Richardson as his running mate.

 For the Republicans, it was between McCain, Thompson, and Frist (yes, Frist). McCain held a good lead up until Iowa, where Thompson placed first place, and McCain came into third behind Frist. McCain won New Hampshire, but got slammed by Frist in South Carolina, Nevada, Michigan, Flordia and a few other places. For some reason, Frist won in almost every state after that, including Arizona. All dropped out and endorsed Frist. Frist picked Mike Huckabee for his running mate! YAY!

 As for me, I played as my Mike Bloomberg third party ticket. When I saw the matchs, I just kept switching my issues around to lose support, because I simply had to see how this was all going to go down once I saw these tickets come together. My running mate was former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson.



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Kucinich/Obama-           347 EV,  56% PV
Frist/Huckabee-            191 EV,  40% PV
Bloomberg/Johnson-     0 EV, 4% PV

 Most of the states that Frist one were by a small margin, with the exeption of Montana, Utah, Idaho, Nebraska, Kansas and Texas. The smallest of those were Kansas and Texas, where it was won with 53-55%.  Bloomberg's best state was New York, where he recieved about 8% of the vote. His showing may have hurt Frist in Arizona and Arkansas, but not enough to have switched the outcome.

 LOL at some of these results!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 11, 2008, 06:54:04 PM
He choose Richardson as his running mate...

...Kucinich/Obama-           347 EV,  56% PV

What?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on February 12, 2008, 08:48:20 AM
He choose Richardson as his running mate...

...Kucinich/Obama-           347 EV,  56% PV

What?

 I really wish I knew.... I never should have created that damn Kucinich! He's a menace to the game!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 12, 2008, 10:21:29 AM
He choose Richardson as his running mate...

...Kucinich/Obama-           347 EV,  56% PV

What?

 I really wish I knew.... I never should have created that damn Kucinich! He's a menace to the game!
`

Who was the veep?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on February 12, 2008, 10:39:19 AM
He picked Richardson, I accidently wrote Obama.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on February 12, 2008, 05:59:11 PM
Governor Vilsack had a problem: he was winning nowhere, not even his home state.  But then, Vilsack had a solution: just sit in his home state of Iowa for months, gaining momentum.

And so he did.  He did so well with this strategy that Iowa was soon strongly for him.  So, he moved on.  First to Illinois.  Then to California and Arizona.  Slowly but steadily, his momentum built, racking up crucial endorsements from candidates dropping out.  Then came the biggest endorsement of all: Senator John Edwards, who gave Vilsack the nomination.

Unfortunately, Clinton refused to drop out until July, so Vilsack was left campaigning in the general election while Clinton was doing her thing.  Once she dropped out, strange happenings started to happen.  Peroutka, of all people, spiked to 40% in some random polls of random states, before randomly going back down the next turn inexplicably.  Except in some states, he didn't return to nothing.  Vilsack didn't care, however; the polls showed him with a massive boost after Clinton left the race.  So he pretty much cruised to the win, with the help of some pleasant Education ads.  And Peroutka won North Dakota.  Based on where Peroutka got votes, his support seems to have come from a splinter group of the GOP.

()
Vilsack/Bayh: 489 EV, 67.4% PV
McCain/Giuliani: 46 EV, 28.2% PV
Peroutka/Brown (whoever the default guy is): 3 EV, 3.1% PV
Badnarik/???: 0 EV, 1.3% PV

Vilsack vote:
()

McCain vote:
()

Peroutka vote:
()


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: perdedor on February 13, 2008, 12:29:02 PM
He choose Richardson as his running mate...

...Kucinich/Obama-           347 EV,  56% PV

What?

 I really wish I knew.... I never should have created that damn Kucinich! He's a menace to the game!

I find it funny, I created a Kucinich character before the game updated him into it and he won every primary.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 16, 2008, 01:49:35 AM
()

Obama: 475 (56% of popular vote)
McCain: 63 (42% of popular vote

McCain didn't fare well after Obama hit him hard on his Iraq policy...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 16, 2008, 01:51:36 AM
()

Obama: 475 (56% of popular vote)
McCain: 63 (42% of popular vote

McCain didn't fare well after Obama hit him hard on his Iraq policy...

KY, NC,  NM, and MT?

Who were you?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CultureKing on February 16, 2008, 03:33:14 AM
()

Obama: 475 (56% of popular vote)
McCain: 63 (42% of popular vote

McCain didn't fare well after Obama hit him hard on his Iraq policy...

KY, NC,  NM, and MT?

Who were you?

I was Obama, and yes some of the results were a little odd, but President Forever seems to always have some states out of whack (like California being a toos-up so often during the campaign before it goes to the democrats by 30%.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 16, 2008, 01:01:59 PM
2012:
(
)
Herseth (me): 46% PV, 338 EV
Robertson: 43% PV, 200 EV
Friedman: 6% PV, 0 EV
Badnarik: 4% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 16, 2008, 01:05:36 PM
2012:
(
)
Herseth (me): 46% PV, 338 EV
Robertson: 43% PV, 200 EV
Friedman: 6% PV, 0 EV
Badnarik: 4% PV, 0 EV

Uh...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on February 16, 2008, 07:08:20 PM
Could someone use my stats and play me against McCain?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on February 16, 2008, 07:16:25 PM
Could someone use my stats and play me against McCain?

I could. See results tomorrow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on February 16, 2008, 07:19:51 PM
Could someone use my stats and play me against McCain?

I could. See results tomorrow.

Thanks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on February 16, 2008, 11:07:45 PM
I played a game with Tom Harkin against Bill Clinton with Primaries and I almost beat Bill Clinton, but the odd part was that the map unintensionally ended up looking like a General Election map, almost exactly except with Illinois going for Clinton, and Vermont, and Rhode Island going for Clinton. It was crazy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Speed of Sound on February 17, 2008, 10:36:32 AM
Just to serve as official proof of the hilarious power of ads:

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I was Kerry.

Here's the key: I did NOTHING until two days left, when I released four ads in each of the states closer than 10 points. As this went on, I had a 9 point and 6 point scandal against me, and I win Texas?!?!?!?!?!?! I love this game. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 17, 2008, 01:59:37 PM
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Kerry (me): 51.1% PV, 364 EV
Bush: 43.1% PV, 174 EV
Nader: 1.5% PV, 0 EV
Badnarik: 4.3% PV, 0 EV

Closest States:
1.  Kentucky (Bush 0.4)
2.  Minnesota (Bush 0.4)
3.  New Mexico (Bush 0.4)
4.  Oklahoma (Kerry 0.7)
5.  Mississippi (Bush 1.2)
6.  Georgia (Bush 1.5)
7.  Louisiana (Bush 1.5)
8.  Tennessee (Kerry 1.5)
9.  Alabama (Bush 1.8 )
10.  Michigan (Bush 2.2)

Top Kerry States:
1.  District of Columbia (70.6)
2.  New York (68.1)
3.  Massachusetts (66.1)
4.  New Jersey (62.4)
5.  Hawaii (59.3)

Top Bush States:
1.  Idaho (64.8 )
2.  Alaska (61.9)
3.  Utah (61.0)
4.  Nebraska (59.9)
5.  Indiana (58.7)

Top Nader States:
1.  Alabama (7.5)
2.  Montana (6.8 )
3.  Connecticut (6.4)
4.  Wyoming (6.1)
5.  Nevada (6.0)

Top Badnarik States:
1.  Missouri (16.8 )
2.  Ohio (11.7)
3.  Vermont (10.7)
4.  New Mexico (9.7)
5.  Iowa (8.6)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on February 17, 2008, 07:06:08 PM

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It was a very tough race, especially since neither candidate appealed to the strong social liberals.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 17, 2008, 07:06:58 PM
Willy, would you mind doing this for me, also?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on February 17, 2008, 07:18:10 PM

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It was a very tough race, especially since neither candidate appealed to the strong social liberals.

I won! Yay! To bad that would never really happen in real life.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on February 17, 2008, 09:45:57 PM

Sure thing. See results tomorrow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 18, 2008, 09:23:25 AM

Thanks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on February 18, 2008, 09:57:42 AM
I decided to have forumite vs. forumite election. I used the scenario "Top Dogs-2008" and inserted forum members (I hope those I selected are not offended by which party I put them on). Here were the tickets:

Republican:
Keystone Phil (PA)/
MasterJedi (WI)

Democratic:
Warner for Senate '08 (VA)/
Josh22 (NC)

Green:
Xahar (CA)/
Gully Foyle (Though he is a proud Irishman, I had him come from Iowa)

Independent:
Rockefeller Republican (ME)/
Joe Republic (OH)

Here were the results (I played as Xahar, the Green with very limited money)

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Keystone Phil/Master Jedi (R): 288 EV; 33.3% of the PV
Warner for Senate '08/Josh22 (D): 212 EV; 34.1% of the PV
Rockefeller Republican/Joe Republic (I): 38 EV; 25.3% of the PV
Xahar/Gully Foyle (G): 0 EV; 5.3% of the PV

As usual for me, alomost all the PV percentage send in the same nukber and only 98% of the votes get counted. :P



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 18, 2008, 10:54:06 AM
Where'd I do best?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on February 18, 2008, 05:16:35 PM

California of course (6% of the vote)

Vermont (12% of the vote)

Ohio (5% of the vote)

Mississippi, oddly enough (6% of the vote)

Iowa (5% of the vote)

D.C. (15% of the Vote)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 18, 2008, 05:18:28 PM

California of course (6% of the vote)

Vermont (12% of the vote)

Ohio (5% of the vote)

Mississippi, oddly enough (6% of the vote)

Iowa (5% of the vote)

D.C. (15% of the Vote)

Only 15 in DC? I was expecting at least 30. :(

And I don't get Mississippi. ???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on February 18, 2008, 09:40:18 PM

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Weirdest results yet...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 18, 2008, 09:42:03 PM

What the hell?  Who did I run against?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on February 18, 2008, 10:11:23 PM

McCain.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 18, 2008, 10:14:35 PM

Then those are some really weird percentages.  McCain getting <60 in Iowa?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 21, 2008, 04:02:54 PM
How do I post the image from the game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on February 23, 2008, 08:01:53 PM
In a really odd primary I added myself into the Gore vs Brady race, and it looked almost exactly how it would have in real life. I won the Plains, Intermountain West, Midwest, and the Populist Rust Belt, Bradley won in Bourgoise states(CA, WA etc), and Gore won everything else. It was a three way too.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on February 23, 2008, 08:21:52 PM
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Me/Warner 46% 347 EV's
Bush/Bush 45% 191 EV's
Nader 7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 29, 2008, 03:12:08 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on February 29, 2008, 06:44:11 PM

Hehe. How'd you do that?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 01, 2008, 02:19:16 PM

I hit Bush with a scandal right before the end of the campaign, and ran a bunch of ads at the same time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 01, 2008, 02:24:35 PM

But, still...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 01, 2008, 03:32:18 PM
Inspireed by Old Europe's idea from about 3 years ago, I am going to run every election since 1960.  However, I am going to go as a minor candidate, and see how the game thinks the election would have gone.  First off, 1960:
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Kennedy: 54% PV, 383 EV
Nixon: 45% PV, 154 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 01, 2008, 04:59:35 PM
1964:
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Johnson: 56% PV, 393 EV
Goldwater: 43% PV, 195 EV

1968:
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Humphrey: 50% PV, 328 EV
Nixon: 37% PV, 165 EV
Wallace: 12% PV, 45 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 01, 2008, 05:25:30 PM
1972:
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Nixon: 50% PV, 296 EV
McGovern: 49% PV, 242 EV

1976:
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Carter: 52% PV, 307 EV
Ford: 47% PV, 231 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 01, 2008, 07:18:43 PM
I can imagine it would be pretty pointless to make unwinnable games, which accoutns for '64 and '72.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 01, 2008, 08:55:02 PM
I can imagine it would be pretty pointless to make unwinnable games, which accoutns for '64 and '72.

McGovern came very close when I ran it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 05, 2008, 03:56:57 PM
1980:
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Carter: 47% PV, 314 EV
Reagan: 45% PV, 224 EV
Anderson: 4% PV, 0 EV

1984:
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Reagan: 54% PV, 409 EV
Mondale: 45% PV, 129 EV

1988:
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Bush: 50% PV, 278 EV
Dukakis: 49% PV, 260 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 06, 2008, 03:24:48 AM

What happened to New Mexico? Did they somehow gain independence from the United States or join Mexico? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on March 06, 2008, 02:53:01 PM
I ran as Clinton against Helms and Perot. Perot won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 06, 2008, 05:10:39 PM

What happened to New Mexico? Did they somehow gain independence from the United States or join Mexico? :P

Maybe I deleted it by mistake.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 06, 2008, 05:11:49 PM

What happened to New Mexico? Did they somehow gain independence from the United States or join Mexico? :P

Maybe I deleted it by mistake.

How did New Mexico vote in this election anyway?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 06, 2008, 05:13:21 PM

What happened to New Mexico? Did they somehow gain independence from the United States or join Mexico? :P

Maybe I deleted it by mistake.

How did New Mexico vote in this election anyway?

They voted for Bush, something like 53-46.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 06, 2008, 05:37:05 PM
1992:
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Clinton: 42% PV, 271 EV
Bush: 40% PV, 267 EV
Perot: 18% PV, 0 EV

1996:
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Clinton: 45% PV, 276 EV
Dole: 42% PV, 262 EV
Perot: 13% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 07, 2008, 12:21:58 AM
I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 07, 2008, 12:23:16 AM
I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.

You think that's bad. Once I ran as Howard Dean, the Mo was going for me with about 4 weeks left. I somehow manage to waste 74,000,000 million dollars in 2 weeks and my campaign collapsed. I ended up with 3 EV (DC) and about 42% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 07, 2008, 12:27:57 AM
I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.

You think that's bad. Once I ran as Howard Dean, the Mo was going for me with about 4 weeks left. I somehow manage to waste 74,000,000 million dollars in 2 weeks and my campaign collapsed. I ended up with 3 EV (DC) and about 42% of the vote.

I won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college ridiculously. I lost Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, and Michigan...just to name a few big ones :/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 07, 2008, 01:09:59 AM
I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.

You think that's bad. Once I ran as Howard Dean, the Mo was going for me with about 4 weeks left. I somehow manage to waste 74,000,000 million dollars in 2 weeks and my campaign collapsed. I ended up with 3 EV (DC) and about 42% of the vote.

I won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college ridiculously. I lost Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, and Michigan...just to name a few big ones :/

Again that's happened to me before. I ran as David Palmer against Bill Pullman's character in Independence Day. I won 50% to his 49% and only carried 112 EV's. Though half the country was decided by less than 2 points. Which is kinda odd.

BTW: I just played New Jersey 2005 as the Republican Mayor Forrester against Jon Corzine and this is how I went:

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I managed to get 65 percent + in some areas around Hunterdon County.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 07, 2008, 01:14:30 AM
I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.

You think that's bad. Once I ran as Howard Dean, the Mo was going for me with about 4 weeks left. I somehow manage to waste 74,000,000 million dollars in 2 weeks and my campaign collapsed. I ended up with 3 EV (DC) and about 42% of the vote.

I won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college ridiculously. I lost Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, and Michigan...just to name a few big ones :/

Again that's happened to me before. I ran as David Palmer against Bill Pullman's character in Independence Day. I won 50% to his 49% and only carried 112 EV's. Though half the country was decided by less than 2 points. Which is kinda odd.

BTW: I just played New Jersey 2005 as the Republican Mayor Forrester against Jon Corzine and this is how I went:

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I managed to get 65 percent + in some areas around Hunterdon County.

I just think it sucks that the game is so long, especially when you have the Primaries included. Most of the time my attention span doesnt last that long...and I end up quitting before the election is decided. I think tonight was the first time I got through a GE [and then lost it]. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 07, 2008, 01:15:30 AM
I lost so bad to Brownback im too ashamed to put up a map and totals haha.

You think that's bad. Once I ran as Howard Dean, the Mo was going for me with about 4 weeks left. I somehow manage to waste 74,000,000 million dollars in 2 weeks and my campaign collapsed. I ended up with 3 EV (DC) and about 42% of the vote.

I won the popular vote, but lost the electoral college ridiculously. I lost Wisconsin, Minnesota, Oregon, and Michigan...just to name a few big ones :/

Again that's happened to me before. I ran as David Palmer against Bill Pullman's character in Independence Day. I won 50% to his 49% and only carried 112 EV's. Though half the country was decided by less than 2 points. Which is kinda odd.

BTW: I just played New Jersey 2005 as the Republican Mayor Forrester against Jon Corzine and this is how I went:

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I managed to get 65 percent + in some areas around Hunterdon County.

Congratulations.

I wish I had the original PF.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on March 07, 2008, 07:59:34 AM
I decided to see how I'd go against McCain/Huckabee.

I chose Bayh to be my VP nominee.

It was close all the way through. McCain won the first debate, we tied the second and I "triumphed" in the third.  He hit me on experience, I hit him on integrity.

This was the map on October 15

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McCain - 45.3%
Polnut - 43.6%
Badnarik - 2.3%


Luckily I found a massive integrity scandal at the same time his attack ad backfired, and he went backwards. This was the result.

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McCain - 169 - 44.7%
Polnut - 369 -  53.1%
Badnarik - 0 -    2.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 07, 2008, 12:33:56 PM
2000:
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Gore: 49% PV, 272 EV
Bush: 43% PV, 266 EV
Nader: 6% PV, 0 EV

2004:
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Kerry: 48% PV, 294 EV
Bush: 46% PV, 244 EV
Nader: 4% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 07, 2008, 12:37:28 PM
The 2000 map was weird beyond belief.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 08, 2008, 01:08:05 AM
I just played a 2010 California Gubernatorial Election scenario as Condoleeza Rice against Mayors Villaraigosa and McLaughlin. I didn't run my ad's until the final couple of weeks of the campaign and I had a solid lead in the polls and was set to win the Governorship. And then this is what happened:

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I won the popular vote by 10.8% and lost the Governorship thanks to Los Angeles by 4%. During the course of election night, Rice was leading Villaraigosa by 5 points then that slipped away.

If you want to download this scenario here's the Link (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/p4e8.htm)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 08, 2008, 04:06:58 AM
Since my computer sucks I had to make a custom map of the game I played:

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Newsom: 1535 - 11,013,372 [46.8%]
Hunter: 889 - 9,380,757 [39.9%]

I win

:)

also:



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Me: 345 - 62,487,586 [53.2%]
Thompson: 193 - 54,872,837 [46.8%]

I win again

:)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 08, 2008, 01:36:27 PM
I can't get that scenario to work. When I try to play it, it gives an error. :(

I just played a 2010 California Gubernatorial Election scenario as Condoleeza Rice against Mayors Villaraigosa and McLaughlin. I didn't run my ad's until the final couple of weeks of the campaign and I had a solid lead in the polls and was set to win the Governorship. And then this is what happened:

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I won the popular vote by 10.8% and lost the Governorship thanks to Los Angeles by 4%. During the course of election night, Rice was leading Villaraigosa by 5 points then that slipped away.

If you want to download this scenario here's the Link (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/p4e8.htm)

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Santa Clara County will never fall!!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 08, 2008, 06:02:12 PM
I can't get that scenario to work. When I try to play it, it gives an error. :(

What sort of Error came up? It worked perfectly fine for me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 08, 2008, 06:51:35 PM
I just played a new 2012 President Obama scenario as President Obama of course. I played off against Governor Tim Pawlenty in the General (I skipped the Primaries). It was an interesting election. At one stage Pawlenty had a massive lead until I managed to pull it back with surprising results.

No candidate won a state with 40% or 60%, it was any margin in the 50's. Except D.C of course ;). Here's the results:

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Barack Obama/Joe Biden (D): 343 EV, 50.4% of the PV (59,826,877)
Tim Pawlenty/Chuck Hagel (R): 195 EV, 49.6% of the PV (58,937,808)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on March 08, 2008, 07:24:29 PM
Lol @ Illinois. Stupid game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 08, 2008, 07:28:27 PM
I just played a new 2012 President Obama scenario as President Obama of course. I played off against Governor Tim Pawlenty in the General (I skipped the Primaries). It was an interesting election. At one stage Pawlenty had a massive lead until I managed to pull it back with surprising results.

No candidate won a state with 40% or 60%, it was any margin in the 50's. Except D.C of course ;). Here's the results:

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Barack Obama/Joe Biden (D): 343 EV, 50.4% of the PV (59,826,877)
Tim Pawlenty/Chuck Hagel (R): 195 EV, 49.6% of the PV (58,937,808)

Can we get a link?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 09, 2008, 06:57:21 AM
I played the 2012 version:

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Total Votes: 118,767,685

Crist: 303 - 65,237,091 [54.9%]
Obama: 235 - 53,527,593 [45.1%]

/Win :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 09, 2008, 04:57:51 PM

You think that's funny, I was playing as Obama against Pawlenty and for most of the night, Pawlenty was leading in MA. Then Obama came from behind and won MA by 2 points :P

BTW: Here's another interesting result I got when I played the 2010 - California Gubernatorial Election scenario:

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The Californian House elected Attorney-General Brown. Even though I won the Popular Vote :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 09, 2008, 05:02:24 PM

You think that's funny, I was playing as Obama against Pawlenty and for most of the night, Pawlenty was leading in MA. Then Obama came from behind and won MA by 2 points :P

BTW: Here's another interesting result I got when I played the 2010 - California Gubernatorial Election scenario:

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The Californian House elected Attorney-General Brown. Even though I won the Popular Vote :(

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Santa Clara County will never fall!

And California doesn't have a House, FYI.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 09, 2008, 05:08:24 PM

That's the County that Gray and Brown were fighting for and he won it by a point.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 09, 2008, 05:11:27 PM

That's the County that Gray and Brown were fighting for and he won it by a point.

See?

What'd you do, anyway?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 12, 2008, 09:05:55 AM
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Total Votes: 117,360,424

Me: 363 - 64,889,959 [55.3%]
Huckabee: 175 - 52,470,464 [44.7%]


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 12, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
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Total Votes: 117,360,424

Me: 363 - 64,889,959 [55.3%]
Huckabee: 175 - 52,470,464 [44.7%]

Were Nebraska and Kansas apart of your strategy or did you some how manage to win over the 20+ undecided voters on Election Day?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 12, 2008, 03:43:25 PM
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Total Votes: 117,360,424

Me: 363 - 64,889,959 [55.3%]
Huckabee: 175 - 52,470,464 [44.7%]

Were Nebraska and Kansas apart of your strategy or did you some how manage to win over the 20+ undecided voters on Election Day?

Those two just kinda randomly fell in my column at the very end....that and Kentucky. Though polls had me up in West Virginia and Virginia but I definately lost those.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 17, 2008, 09:29:04 PM
2008-Ultimate:
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Gore (me): 68% PV, 538 EV
Cheney: 31% PV, 0 EV
In DC, Cheney received just 79 votes.  His best state was Alaska, where he got 45.9%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on March 17, 2008, 09:35:16 PM
2008-Ultimate:
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Gore (me): 68% PV, 538 EV
Cheney: 31% PV, 0 EV
In DC, Cheney received just 79 votes.  His best state was Alaska, where he got 45.9%.

LOL. Just LOL.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 17, 2008, 09:39:05 PM
2008-Ultimate:
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Gore (me): 68% PV, 538 EV
Cheney: 31% PV, 0 EV
In DC, Cheney received just 79 votes.  His best state was Alaska, where he got 45.9%.

LOL. Just LOL.

I almost did this with Easley a while back, but lost Alaska.  This is the second time today I've won every state (I did this with FDR in a 1932 scenario earlier today, but only got 60% PV).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 18, 2008, 09:37:20 PM
I have such boring maps:

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Total Votes: 117,360,424

Me: 337 - 65,055,829 [55.4%]
McCain: 201 - 52,304,594 [44.6%]


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 21, 2008, 03:11:35 AM
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John McCain/Condoleeza Rice (R): 320 EV, 50.7% (61,667,094)

Ted Strickland/Joe Biden (D): 218 EV, 49.3% (60,047,747)

I ran as Governor Ted Strickland of Ohio. You know what I usually do in President Forever so theres no point explaining it. And this was the result. I lost Illinois by about 0.5 points. Stupid Game.

This was 2012 - President McCain by the Way. You can find this scenario, as long as many other ones for President Forever + Primaries Here (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/p4e8.htm)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 21, 2008, 04:35:55 AM
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Edwards: 413 - 65,816,563 [56.1%]
Romney: 125 - 51,543,860 [43.9%]

/owned


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on March 21, 2008, 07:18:14 AM
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John McCain/Condoleeza Rice (R): 320 EV, 50.7% (61,667,094)

Ted Strickland/Joe Biden (D): 218 EV, 49.3% (60,047,747)

I ran as Governor Ted Strickland of Ohio. You know what I usually do in President Forever so theres no point explaining it. And this was the result. I lost Illinois by about 0.5 points. Stupid Game.

This was 2012 - President McCain by the Way. You can find this scenario, as long as many other ones for President Forever + Primaries Here (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/p4e8.htm)

 Everytime I have Condi as my running mate, Alabama quickly becomes a swing state. If I win the state, it's by 2 or 3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on March 21, 2008, 04:11:31 PM
Everytime I have Condi as my running mate, Alabama quickly becomes a swing state. If I win the state, it's by 2 or 3%

I am surprised as that has never happened to me, though on many occassions the Republican has managed to win half of New England and lose most of the South. Stupid Game. That's President Forever + Primaries for you, the results are not realistic. As you can see in many maps posted.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 22, 2008, 03:41:35 PM
United States Senate 2006

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Map Key:

Republican
Democratic
Bernie Sanders Independent
Note: Joe Lieberman's Connecticut for Lieberman is coloured red because he is caucusing with the Democratic party.

I ran as the Republicans led by Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas in the 2006 Senatorial Elections. I managed to pull off a surprising win by managing to hold onto seats in Montana, Missouri and Rhode Island. I also managed to win Bob Menendez's seat in New Jersey. Some of the states were really close, when I mean close they were really close. Here are the results in those seats.

Virginia:
Jim Webb (D) 50.0% (1,367,819)
George Allen (R) 50.0% (1,365,977)

Missouri:
Jim Talent (R) 50.6% (1,097,587)
Claire McCaskill (D) 49.3% (1,068,075)

Montana:
Conrad Burns (R) 50.7% (175,260)
Jon Tester (D) 49.2% (169,889)

New Jersey:
Thomas Kean Jnr (R) 50.7% (1,660,858)
Bob Menendez (D) 49.2% (1,610,800)

Rocky, where did you find this scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on March 22, 2008, 04:39:39 PM
United States Senate 2006

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Map Key:

Republican
Democratic
Bernie Sanders Independent
Note: Joe Lieberman's Connecticut for Lieberman is coloured red because he is caucusing with the Democratic party.

I ran as the Republicans led by Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas in the 2006 Senatorial Elections. I managed to pull off a surprising win by managing to hold onto seats in Montana, Missouri and Rhode Island. I also managed to win Bob Menendez's seat in New Jersey. Some of the states were really close, when I mean close they were really close. Here are the results in those seats.

Virginia:
Jim Webb (D) 50.0% (1,367,819)
George Allen (R) 50.0% (1,365,977)

Missouri:
Jim Talent (R) 50.6% (1,097,587)
Claire McCaskill (D) 49.3% (1,068,075)

Montana:
Conrad Burns (R) 50.7% (175,260)
Jon Tester (D) 49.2% (169,889)

New Jersey:
Thomas Kean Jnr (R) 50.7% (1,660,858)
Bob Menendez (D) 49.2% (1,610,800)

Rocky, where did you find this scenario?

I don't know if they have it for P4E, I downloaded the same scenario for PM4E.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on March 29, 2008, 01:45:55 AM
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Edwards/Biden: 479 - 66,588,503 [56.8%]
Romney/Cheny: 59 - 50,600,080 [43.2%]


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on March 31, 2008, 09:49:15 AM
Ugh.. Seriously, I love this game, but sometimes I dunno. I played as Evan Bayh. I somehow managed to win Iowa and South Carolina, and barely beat Obama for the nomination, and chose Mark Warner as my veep. The Republicans were pretty simple. I ran all the candidates, and Rudy took and early lead and just kept on movin up. Rudy took McCain as his veep. At the start of the campaign, we started at a lead, with Rudy taking New York and California. He kept on fumbling, and took a few scandels pretty hard. By the end of the campaign I had a decent lead, having about 290 EVs in my pocket. Most of the states had 17% undecided.

 Map at the end of the results.

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Bayh/Warner- (Me) 432 EVs, 57%
Giuiliani/McCain - 106 EVs, 43%

 There were no third party candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 31, 2008, 08:01:40 PM
Ugh.. Seriously, I love this game, but sometimes I dunno. I played as Evan Bayh. I somehow managed to win Iowa and South Carolina, and barely beat Obama for the nomination, and chose Mark Warner as my veep. The Republicans were pretty simple. I ran all the candidates, and Rudy took and early lead and just kept on movin up. Rudy took McCain as his veep. At the start of the campaign, we started at a lead, with Rudy taking New York and California. He kept on fumbling, and took a few scandels pretty hard. By the end of the campaign I had a decent lead, having about 290 EVs in my pocket. Most of the states had 17% undecided.

 Map at the end of the results.

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Bayh/Warner- (Me) 432 EVs, 57%
Giuiliani/McCain - 106 EVs, 43%

 There were no third party candidates.


What's with the weird results in NJ, VA, IN, and OK?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on March 31, 2008, 08:31:09 PM
Ugh.. Seriously, I love this game, but sometimes I dunno. I played as Evan Bayh. I somehow managed to win Iowa and South Carolina, and barely beat Obama for the nomination, and chose Mark Warner as my veep. The Republicans were pretty simple. I ran all the candidates, and Rudy took and early lead and just kept on movin up. Rudy took McCain as his veep. At the start of the campaign, we started at a lead, with Rudy taking New York and California. He kept on fumbling, and took a few scandels pretty hard. By the end of the campaign I had a decent lead, having about 290 EVs in my pocket. Most of the states had 17% undecided.

 Map at the end of the results.

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Bayh/Warner- (Me) 432 EVs, 57%
Giuiliani/McCain - 106 EVs, 43%

 There were no third party candidates.


What's with the weird results in NJ, VA, IN, and OK?

 I was ahead in Virginia by a decent margin, and close to winning IN and OK. For some reason, the last two weeks Rudy focused on states like New Jersey, California, and some more
Northeast states. I took advantage of it and went for some different swing states, and it ended up working well for me.  Rudy had NJ in his pocket for most of the election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 01, 2008, 05:31:52 PM
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Arnold Vinick/Ray Sullivan (R): 313 EV, 49.4% of the PV (59,940,988)
Matthew Santos/Leo McGarry (D): 225 EV, 48.6% of the PV (58,966,386)
Seth Gillette/Sydney Wade (I): 0 EV, 2.0% of the PV (2,423,303)

In this 2006 West Wing scenario, I ran as Independent candidate Senator Seth Gillette of North Dakota. My main focus in this campaign was the state of Vermont. Though I only wound up with 9 percent of the vote, I did play a spoiler in the state causing Vermont to vote for Vinick. However this was not my best result as Gillette. In North Dakota, New Mexico and Arizona I did crack 10 percent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on April 02, 2008, 04:48:37 AM
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Dodd: 433 - 65,734,623 [56%]
Huckabee: 105 - 51,625,800 [44%]

I won the Hucksters homestate and Tejas....I feel pretty good about myself :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 03, 2008, 07:36:52 PM
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Obama/Biden: 55.9% PV, 456 EV
McCain/Sanford: 44.1% PV, 82 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 05, 2008, 01:02:00 AM
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Obama/Biden: 55.9% PV, 456 EV
McCain/Sanford: 44.1% PV, 82 EV

McCain seems to carry Maine a lot, for some reason. Don't get WV or NV. And how did you not carry OK or the Dakotas?

edit: Alaska?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 05, 2008, 04:05:52 AM

Any Republican candidate in President Forever + Primaries wins the state of Maine A LOT. Hell even Tim Pawlenty won Maine, now that would never happen in RL. And if Pawlenty was somehow nominated for the Presidency of the United States in the near future and won Maine, I would be very, very scared.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 05, 2008, 05:02:16 AM
That's funny, I always win ME.

I think I've lost it as the Dem... maybe twice - and both of those were landslides.

As a Dem I usually win it with 52-56%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 05, 2008, 02:16:47 PM
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Bush/Voinovich: 37.9% PV, 269 EV
Wilder/Gore: 38% PV, 258 EV
Perot/Stockdale: 24% PV, 11 EV
I lost New Hampshire by 222 votes, won the PV by 91,095 votes, and lost in the House.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 05, 2008, 05:43:35 PM
Moments ago I ran as Mayor Michael Bloomberg against Senators Barack Obama and John McCain. However this time, I did not begin to play from 2 weeks out from Election Day. I actually started at the beginning. I carefully selected the states in my strategy and ran commercials often my views on the major issues of the campaign (Personal Tax, Health Care, War on Terror) and it worked. Thanks to my strategy this is how the Electoral Map looked on Election Day:

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Obama/Biden (D): 204 EV, 43.5% of the PV
McCain/Sanford (R): 181 EV, 40.3% of the PV
Bloomberg/Zinni (I): 0 EV, 4.1% of the PV
Undecided: 153 EV, 12.0% of the PV

As the Election Day map suggested, the 2008 Presidential Election was going to be close. And it was, very, very close. The Election came down to Missouri and it's 11 Electoral Votes. McCain led until Obama pulled away when 75% of the vote was counted. Obama ended up winning Missouri and thus the Presidency of the United States by 5,024 votes.

Many other states were quite close in this Election too. Most notably Ohio and West Virginia. Ohio ended up giving it's 20 Electoral Votes to McCain by 11,000 votes, whilst West Virginia gave it's 5 Electoral Votes to Obama by 5,000 votes.

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Barack Obama/Joe Biden (D): 273 EV, 45.8% of the PV (46,744,934)
John McCain/Mark Sanford (R): 265 EV, 43.2% of the PV (44,090,351)
Michael Bloomberg/Anthony Zinni (I): 0 EV, 10.9% of the PV (11,131,865)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on April 05, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
Texas?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 05, 2008, 07:18:31 PM

>80%? Very weird. So is California, at >70%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 06, 2008, 01:56:40 AM

I think the person that designed the scenario ed up the percentages in Texas and California. On numerous occassions when I have either been playing as a Republican or a Democrat, I have always scored massive wins in either state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 06, 2008, 01:58:22 AM

I think the person that designed the scenario ed up the percentages in Texas and California. On numerous occassions when I have either been playing as a Republican or a Democrat, I have always scored massive wins in either state.

Go and fix them, then.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 06, 2008, 09:55:49 AM
OK, I ran as my NY based billionaire independent.

I focused on a few states ME, IL, NY, CT, MO, MT, CA, OR, TX and SD

I really made things messy.

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Obama/Easley - 255 EV - 35.5%

McCain/Huckabee - 247 EV - 35.9%

Polnut/Hagel - 36 EV - 28.6%

Obama is elected by the house.

States of interest

IL - I 40 D 38 R 22 - yes I took IL from Obama.
ME - I 36 R 32 D 32
MO - I 34 R 34 D 32
NY - D 38 R 33 I 29


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 12, 2008, 12:33:05 AM
A few days ago, I played as Senator Jordan Lyman in the 1956 Manchurian Candidate scenario for the orginial President Forever. And this was one of the closest Elections, since I began playing President Forever.

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Jordan Lyman/William Richards (D): 267 EV, 47% of the PV (37,320,826)
John Iselin/Adam Smith (R): 264 EV, 47% of the PV (37,210,168)
James M. Scott/Bennet Marco (I): 0 EV, 4% of the PV (3,702,975)

I won the White House and saved America from a Communist take over! I honestly thought I wouldn't win as Lyman as things were not going my way, but thankfully the Election came down to Washington, where a day prior to the Election I was leading Iselin 57-41 in the polls.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 10:28:14 AM
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Humphrey/Muskie: 44% PV, 282 EV
Nixon/Agnew: 35% PV, 103 EV
Wallace/LeMay: 20% PV, 153 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 12:07:38 PM
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Humphrey/Muskie: 44% PV, 282 EV
Nixon/Agnew: 35% PV, 103 EV
Wallace/LeMay: 20% PV, 153 EV

Those are some weird results. Who as?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 02:17:09 PM
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Humphrey/Muskie: 44% PV, 282 EV
Nixon/Agnew: 35% PV, 103 EV
Wallace/LeMay: 20% PV, 153 EV

Those are some weird results. Who as?

I was HHH.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 04:19:01 PM
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Humphrey/Muskie: 44% PV, 282 EV
Nixon/Agnew: 35% PV, 103 EV
Wallace/LeMay: 20% PV, 153 EV

Those are some weird results. Who as?

I was HHH.

What was your strategy?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 04:52:43 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 04:58:09 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 05:00:13 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 12, 2008, 05:10:18 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 05:25:37 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 05:40:06 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

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800s?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 06:03:55 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

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800s?

Yup ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 06:09:15 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

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800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 06:24:47 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

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800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 06:32:51 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 06:34:09 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 06:36:54 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)

I suppose you had oodles of cash?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 06:37:54 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)

I suppose you had oodles of cash?

Just $50,000,000


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 06:46:02 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)

I suppose you had oodles of cash?

Just $50,000,000

What did you do in WY?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 06:50:09 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)

I suppose you had oodles of cash?

Just $50,000,000

What did you do in WY?

Nothing; I didn't do anything in Utah, either.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 06:51:23 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)

I suppose you had oodles of cash?

Just $50,000,000

What did you do in WY?

Nothing; I didn't do anything in Utah, either.

Starnge, strange, strange. CA?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 12, 2008, 06:52:50 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)

I suppose you had oodles of cash?

Just $50,000,000

What did you do in WY?

Nothing; I didn't do anything in Utah, either.

Starnge, strange, strange. CA?

I spent the whole election in the South, NY, IL, and PA; I just ran ads at the end of it all.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 12, 2008, 07:00:19 PM

Run a massive number of ads with 5 days before the end of the campaign, in every state where the lead is under 10% either way.

That map's...strange.

It is an odd map; especially the Wallace numbers.

Once again that is one strange map. What did the Electoral Map look like on Election Day? Were there many tossups?

A fair number of states were tossups, but my momentum was in the 800's, so I figured most of them would go for me.

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800s?

Yup ;)

How so much?

I dunno, but that's what I'm doing from now on :)

Have fun consistantly getting 800 momentum. :P

Oh, I wil ;)

I suppose you had oodles of cash?

Just $50,000,000

What did you do in WY?

Nothing; I didn't do anything in Utah, either.

Starnge, strange, strange. CA?

I spent the whole election in the South, NY, IL, and PA; I just ran ads at the end of it all.

:P

Strange, strange, strange.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 13, 2008, 07:54:26 PM
McCain v. Clinton v. Nader v. Philles

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McCain (R) 279 50.5%
Clinton (D) 259 49.0%
Nader (I)            0.1%
Philles (L)          0.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on April 13, 2008, 08:19:18 PM
Giuliani v. Obama

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Guliani 51.4% 323
Obama 48.6% 215


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 26, 2008, 10:00:22 AM
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Gore/Obama: 51.1% PV, 274 EV
Romney/Huckabee: 48.9% PV, 264

I won Wyoming by only 141 votes, and lost Virginia by 4,849 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on April 26, 2008, 11:41:26 AM
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Gore/Obama: 51.1% PV, 274 EV
Romney/Huckabee: 48.9% PV, 264

I won Wyoming by only 141 votes, and lost Virginia by 4,849 votes.

That map is unspeakably weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on April 26, 2008, 04:43:12 PM
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Gore/Obama: 51.1% PV, 274 EV
Romney/Huckabee: 48.9% PV, 264

I won Wyoming by only 141 votes, and lost Virginia by 4,849 votes.

That map is unspeakably weird.

I assume you are playing the 80soft version of 2008, where the Libertarians and Constitution Party gain up to 7% or more on Election Day? Well it doesn't happen with a new 2008 scenario I got, I think you'll be able to find it on the 80soft website 2008 Gold Version 3 it's called. If not I'll send it to you guys.

Speaking of that new 2008 scenario, I added myself as an Independent candidate in the scenario and faced off against Obama and McCain. I got the exact same Electoral College map 3 times. With Obama getting about 47% and 349 EV, McCain getting 45% and 189 EV and myself getting 5% and 0 EV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on April 28, 2008, 08:49:52 AM
Ksrsly. I'm not even going to talk about who I was, what I did, and what happened, because it was seriously, one of the biggest WTF moments I've ever had playing this game.. EVER.



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Romney/McCain
Edwards/Bayh

 Really... I dont know.. WTF Utah?!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Josh/Devilman88 on April 28, 2008, 09:46:56 AM
Ksrsly. I'm not even going to talk about who I was, what I did, and what happened, because it was seriously, one of the biggest WTF moments I've ever had playing this game.. EVER.



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Romney/McCain
Edwards/Bayh

 Really... I dont know.. WTF Utah?!


I guess IL left the USA because Obama didn't get the nom?!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on April 28, 2008, 02:52:33 PM
Ksrsly. I'm not even going to talk about who I was, what I did, and what happened, because it was seriously, one of the biggest WTF moments I've ever had playing this game.. EVER.



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Romney/McCain
Edwards/Bayh

 Really... I dont know.. WTF Utah?!


I guess IL left the USA because Obama didn't get the nom?!

I fixed IL


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 01, 2008, 04:16:42 PM
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Edwards/Lieberman: 53.9% PV, 440 EV
Bush/Cheney: 46.1% PV, 98 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 12, 2008, 03:23:09 PM
In a rare case of the game looking just like the real thing, I submit this 1972 Nixon v. Muskie (I played as Nixon).
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Nixon: 59.9% PV, 521 EV
Muskie: 40.1% PV, 17 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 12, 2008, 03:32:09 PM
In a rare case of the game looking just like the real thing, I submit this 1972 Nixon v. Muskie (I played as Nixon).
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Nixon: 59.9% PV, 521 EV
Muskie: 40.1% PV, 17 EV

That scenario doesn't look too bad. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 13, 2008, 04:26:45 PM
In a rare case of the game looking just like the real thing, I submit this 1972 Nixon v. Muskie (I played as Nixon).
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Nixon: 59.9% PV, 521 EV
Muskie: 40.1% PV, 17 EV

1972 scenario with Muskie? Is this for the original President Forever or President Forever + Primaries. Or did you add Muskie?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 14, 2008, 03:32:44 PM
In a rare case of the game looking just like the real thing, I submit this 1972 Nixon v. Muskie (I played as Nixon).
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Nixon: 59.9% PV, 521 EV
Muskie: 40.1% PV, 17 EV

1972 scenario with Muskie? Is this for the original President Forever or President Forever + Primaries. Or did you add Muskie?

I created a PF+P version for 1972.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 16, 2008, 03:43:24 PM
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Clinton/Gore: 59.4% PV, 538 EV
Bush/Quayle: 40.6% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 16, 2008, 06:22:41 PM
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Clinton/Gore: 59.4% PV, 538 EV
Bush/Quayle: 40.6% PV, 0 EV

Those percentages are weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 17, 2008, 09:00:16 PM
Red is GOP and Blue is Democrat

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Obama (D)388 50.2%
McCain (R)150 46.6%
Barr (L)    0   1.6%
Keyes (C)0   0.7%
Nader(I)  0   0.6%
McKinney(G)0   0.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 18, 2008, 03:17:54 PM
Red is GOP and Blue is Democrat

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Obama (D)388 50.2%
McCain (R)150 46.6%
Barr (L)    0   1.6%
Keyes (C)0   0.7%
Nader(I)  0   0.6%
McKinney(G)0   0.8%

Weird; Obama wins Indiana and Mississippi but not Arkansas or Arizona?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 18, 2008, 09:07:14 PM
Red is GOP and Blue is Democrat

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Obama (D)388 50.2%
McCain (R)150 46.6%
Barr (L)    0   1.6%
Keyes (C)0   0.7%
Nader(I)  0   0.6%
McKinney(G)0   0.8%

Weird; Obama wins Indiana and Mississippi but not Arkansas or Arizona?

PF is whack. Arizona went to McCain probably because it was his home state, and Arkansas hates Obama in general. I don't know why he won Indiana. I got a sh**tload of scandals called on me for the entire election, it was almost unreal. I got railed over and over again. I got within 1% and then Obama unleashed 2 10power scandals on me, and I could only muster one scandal on him the entire cycle.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 20, 2008, 07:29:07 PM
1972: Nixon (me): v. Muskie:
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 23, 2008, 10:08:20 PM
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Lloyd Bentsen/Hugh Carey (D): 384 EV, 55.2% of the PV (54,231,221)
Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 155 EV, 44.8% of the PV (44,090,970)

I ran as Lloyd Bentsen in this 1976 scenario. I built up my base in the South early and my campaign for the Presidency of the United States never looked back. On Election Night, I was surprised to find out that I managed to crack the 60 percent mark in a few states. How the hell was I able to do that, with only 3 million dollars left on Election Day and with a power 9 scandal on me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 23, 2008, 10:52:53 PM
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433 (63.4%)-105 (36.6%)

Guess.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 23, 2008, 11:16:05 PM

You ran as Bill Clinton against Ross Perot? And you won in a landslide.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 23, 2008, 11:30:53 PM

You ran as Bill Clinton against Ross Perot? And you won in a landslide.

Close. Actually, it was Brown/Bentsen vs. Perot/Stockdale. And I did nothing but press the spacebar through the whole game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 24, 2008, 04:04:15 AM

You ran as Bill Clinton against Ross Perot? And you won in a landslide.

Close. Actually, it was Brown/Bentsen vs. Perot/Stockdale. And I did nothing but press the spacebar through the whole game.

Jerry Brown sweeping the entire South? The joys of President Forever + Primaries. Reminds me that I ran as Gene McCarthy today against President Ford and Governor Wallace. Wallace somehow managed to win DC and numerous other parts of the United States where his politics aren't tolerated. The bright side was I finished 2nd in the District of Columbia with 17.65!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 24, 2008, 07:36:07 PM

You ran as Bill Clinton against Ross Perot? And you won in a landslide.

Close. Actually, it was Brown/Bentsen vs. Perot/Stockdale. And I did nothing but press the spacebar through the whole game.

Jerry Brown sweeping the entire South? The joys of President Forever + Primaries. Reminds me that I ran as Gene McCarthy today against President Ford and Governor Wallace. Wallace somehow managed to win DC and numerous other parts of the United States where his politics aren't tolerated. The bright side was I finished 2nd in the District of Columbia with 17.65!

17.65?!?!?! :P

Well, I actually thought that the South was realistic; Perot did very poorly there IRL.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on May 25, 2008, 07:42:15 PM
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Dukakis vs Pat Robertson

Yeah I could have won by more...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on May 27, 2008, 01:05:17 AM
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Ross Perot 222 EVs 33.3% PV
George Bush 184 33.9% PV
Bill Clinton 132 32.7% PV

Congress elected President Bush to a second term. Although, I thought congress was controlled by the Dems in 1992.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 30, 2008, 07:23:30 PM
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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place :D.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 30, 2008, 07:45:16 PM
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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place :D.

Why does McCarthy always do so well in 1976, when he's only at 1% on electino day?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 30, 2008, 07:50:06 PM
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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place :D.

Why does McCarthy always do so well in 1976, when he's only at 1% on election day?

Actually, I gave all of the candidates $999,000,000 dollars at the start of the campaign, including Gene McCarthy too. That's why I finished second in numerous states around the country and led in Massachusetts with 5 percent of the vote in!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 30, 2008, 07:50:48 PM
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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place :D.

Why does McCarthy always do so well in 1976, when he's only at 1% on election day?

Actually, I gave all of the candidates $999,000,000 dollars at the start of the campaign, including Gene McCarthy too. That's why I finished second in numerous states around the country and led in Massachusetts with 5 percent of the vote in!

Ah, interesting.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on May 30, 2008, 07:55:05 PM
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Hubert H. Humphrey/Lloyd M. Bentsen (D): 296 EV, 43.0% of the PV (42,935,372)
Ronald W. Reagan/Richard Schweiker (R): 242 EV, 40.6% of the PV (40,499,639)
Eugene McCarthy/Various in States (I): 0 EV, 16.4% of the PV (16,401,372)

In this 1976 Presidential scenario I ran as former United States Senator Eugene McCarthy. Whilst I lost to Hubert Humphrey, my campaign played a serious role in giving Senator Humphrey the Presidency of the United States, which was something I didn't want to do. Though saying this, I finished second in a few states Wyoming, Colorado and DC to name a few, defeating both Humphrey and Reagan for second place :D.

Why does McCarthy always do so well in 1976, when he's only at 1% on election day?

Actually, I gave all of the candidates $999,000,000 dollars at the start of the campaign, including Gene McCarthy too. That's why I finished second in numerous states around the country and led in Massachusetts with 5 percent of the vote in!

Ah, interesting.

You should try it one day. Who knows, you might be able to lead Housewive Ellen McCormack to the White House or Ohio Congressman Dennis Kucinich. That reminds me, I should try that later today.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on May 30, 2008, 10:32:00 PM
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Total: 118,467,604

Obama: 296 - 58,298,318 [49.2%]
McCain: 242 - 50,122,599 [42.3%]
Badnarik: 0 - 9,480,692 [8%]
Peroutka: 0 - 565,994 [0.5%]

yup....


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on May 30, 2008, 10:32:31 PM
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Total: 118,467,604

Obama: 296 - 58,298,318 [49.2%]
McCain: 242 - 50,122,599 [42.3%]
Badnarik: 0 - 9,480,692 [8%]
Peroutka: 0 - 565,994 [0.5%]

yup....

:o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on May 30, 2008, 11:02:55 PM
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Total: 118,467,604

Obama: 296 - 58,298,318 [49.2%]
McCain: 242 - 50,122,599 [42.3%]
Badnarik: 0 - 9,480,692 [8%]
Peroutka: 0 - 565,994 [0.5%]

yup....

:o



Basically.......I have no real explanation of this...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Eleanor Martins on June 03, 2008, 12:21:47 PM
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Gotta love this game. I was Poizner.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 03, 2008, 12:25:33 PM
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Gotta love this game. I was Poizner.

PF is immeasurably weird with third parties.

I can't get that scenario to work, for some reason.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Eleanor Martins on June 03, 2008, 12:35:50 PM
Noonan was even leading Newsom for a good while before LA County came in, I went in on Election Day with most of the state a toss-up, and they broke for third parties in a huge way.

Third parties are coded all wrongly though, earlier yesterday the cookie crumbled against me when Lenora ****ing Fulani grabbed NC and SD out of nowhere to hand the election to Babbitt and leave Ben Fernandez (me) out in the cold. Paul robbed me when I tried it with Biden, so I got fed up.

http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/p4e8.htm I assume the one listed there was the one you got?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 03, 2008, 05:21:31 PM
Noonan was even leading Newsom for a good while before LA County came in, I went in on Election Day with most of the state a toss-up, and they broke for third parties in a huge way.

Third parties are coded all wrongly though, earlier yesterday the cookie crumbled against me when Lenora ****ing Fulani grabbed NC and SD out of nowhere to hand the election to Babbitt and leave Ben Fernandez (me) out in the cold. Paul robbed me when I tried it with Biden, so I got fed up.

http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/p4e8.htm I assume the one listed there was the one you got?

Aye, that was the one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 09, 2008, 02:36:15 AM
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Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (R): 356 EV, 53% of the PV (37,761,111)
Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (D): 175 EV, 46% of the PV (33,427,405)

I was surprised myself, not at the fact that I defeated Governor Roosevelt quite comfortably in the Presidential Election of 1932 but at the fact that I caught up with him in the Polls on Election Day Eve!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Eleanor Martins on June 09, 2008, 10:31:42 AM
Where do you get these scenarios from 1932 and basically any historical ones?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 10, 2008, 01:50:45 AM
Where do you get these scenarios from 1932 and basically any historical ones?

You can find them here: http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/index.htm (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/index.htm). Though they are for the original President Forever, which is the better version of the two versions :).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Eleanor Martins on June 10, 2008, 03:14:36 AM
They've gotten rid of the purchase link for PF 2004 :/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on June 12, 2008, 06:18:56 AM
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Total: 117,360,424

Me: 499 - 69,881,519 [59.5%]
Giuliani: 39 - 47,478,904 [40.5%]



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 12, 2008, 05:43:51 PM
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Jim Douglas/Ross Daniels (D): 268 EV, 41% of the PV (51,928,621)
Fred Nelson/Steve Conrad (R): 259 EV, 37% of the PV (46,139,782)
Nathan Bobrick/Barbara Mitchell (I): 11 EV, 21% of the PV (26,468,248)

In this 2008 custom made scenario for the original President Forever, I ran as Billionaire Independent Nathan Bobrick of Washington for the Presidency of the United States. I ran against Governor of California Fred Nelson and Secretary of Defence Jim Douglas of New Jersey. Coming into Election Night, Jim Douglas was expected to win the Presidency of the United States however when all of the results came in, Douglas missed out on winning the Presidency outright by 2 EV's, thanks to me Nathan Bobrick :).

As the 2008 Presidential Election was a tie, the Election was forced to the United States Congress and I expected the Congress to elect Jim Douglas 44th President of the United States. I was wrong, they selected me Nathan Bobrick! Thus becoming America's first Independent President.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 13, 2008, 08:39:50 PM
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Jim Douglas/Ross Daniels (D): 268 EV, 41% of the PV (51,928,621)
Fred Nelson/Steve Conrad (R): 259 EV, 37% of the PV (46,139,782)
Nathan Bobrick/Barbara Mitchell (I): 11 EV, 21% of the PV (26,468,248)

In this 2008 custom made scenario for the original President Forever, I ran as Billionaire Independent Nathan Bobrick of Washington for the Presidency of the United States. I ran against Governor of California Fred Nelson and Secretary of Defence Jim Douglas of New Jersey. Coming into Election Night, Jim Douglas was expected to win the Presidency of the United States however when all of the results came in, Douglas missed out on winning the Presidency outright by 2 EV's, thanks to me Nathan Bobrick :).

As the 2008 Presidential Election was a tie, the Election was forced to the United States Congress and I expected the Congress to elect Jim Douglas 44th President of the United States. I was wrong, they selected me Nathan Bobrick! Thus becoming America's first Independent President.

Uh, OK...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 19, 2008, 02:05:48 PM
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Kennedy/Johnson: 57% PV, 525 EV
Nixon/Lodge: 41% PV, 12 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 19, 2008, 02:07:48 PM
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Kennedy/Johnson: 57% PV, 525 EV
Nixon/Lodge: 41% PV, 12 EV

W

T

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 20, 2008, 07:04:16 PM

For some reason, Georgia is always solid Nixon in this scenario.  I don't get it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 20, 2008, 07:15:34 PM
Fiddle with the percentages.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 20, 2008, 07:23:35 PM

How do you do that?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 20, 2008, 07:30:41 PM

In the player editor.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 20, 2008, 07:32:42 PM

Candidate editor?  I've never seen that option.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 20, 2008, 07:39:00 PM

There is no option like that in the original President Forever files. You'll have to do manually. I could do it afterall I have made a lot of scenarios for the original President Forever but nobody has played them apart from myself :).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 20, 2008, 07:39:50 PM

It's in one of the remoter tabs.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 20, 2008, 07:41:13 PM

The what?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 20, 2008, 08:08:35 PM

Edit Richard Nixon and it'll be in a tab on the very right.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 20, 2008, 08:27:39 PM

I'm there, but I don't see the tab.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 21, 2008, 12:37:49 AM

I think it's a general statistics-related one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 21, 2008, 12:48:11 AM
Ben, I assume you are playing the 1960 scenario on the original President Forever? Then I advise you to send the files to me and I will change the percentages for you. And I said could in a previous post of mine, which you seem to be ignoring :(.

There is no option like that in the original President Forever files. You'll have to do manually. I could do it afterall I have made a lot of scenarios for the original President Forever but nobody has played them apart from myself :).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 21, 2008, 10:27:39 AM
Ben, I assume you are playing the 1960 scenario on the original President Forever? Then I advise you to send the files to me and I will change the percentages for you. And I said could in a previous post of mine, which you seem to be ignoring :(.

There is no option like that in the original President Forever files. You'll have to do manually. I could do it afterall I have made a lot of scenarios for the original President Forever but nobody has played them apart from myself :).

How do I send files?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on June 21, 2008, 06:54:14 PM
Maybe you heard about "email" recently?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on June 29, 2008, 04:39:42 PM
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Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert H. Humphrey (D): 294 EV, 51.7% of the PV (33,430,812)
Richard M. Nixon/Spiro T. Agnew (R): 244 EV, 48.3% of the PV (31,174,936)

Somehow I managed to win as incumbent President Lyndon B. Johnson against Richard Nixon in the 1968 Presidential Election. Although I primarily focused on my Experience, Leadership and my position on Civil Rights coming into Election Night I was trailing badly and then out of nowhere I win re-election :).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 01, 2008, 12:57:56 AM
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Nelson A. Rockefeller/Howard H. Baker (R): 375 EV, 46.3% of the PV (37,022,158)
Robert F. Kennedy/Frank Church (D): 118 EV, 37.2% of the PV (29,724,823)
George C. Wallace/Curtis E. LeMay (AI): 45 EV, 16.4% of the PV (13,140,380)

Just ran as New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller against Senator Robert F. Kennedy and Governor George C. Wallace in the 1968 Presidential Election. I manage to win quite comfortably over Kennedy, though there were some points during the campaign and on Election Night that Kennedy might have a shot at winning the White House, but I showed Bobby Kennedy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 02, 2008, 10:56:08 PM
I ran as myself in the 2008 Democratic primary.

I started from 0% - and crawled my way up - eventually coming third in Iowa and winning NH, MI (which didn't count). After winning PA, TX, OH and VT - Edwards and Obama endorsed me - pushing me over the top. Clinton stayed in until the end (and thumped me in IN, WV, KY, OR, SD and MT)- but I offered her VP.

The reps threw up... get this Paul/Romney.

I jumped out to an early lead - 44-40%

I was opening up some interesting states, and as 'integirty' became the key election issue - I pushed it harder and harder.

Going into election night I led 52-41% - but I was having some serious problems in states I really shouldn't have.

These were the results -

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Yes I kid you not - I lost NH, FL and IA - but won OK, ID and LA - as well as GA, NC and TN.

Polnut/Clinton - 415EV 70,952,187 - 57.7%
Paul/Romney - 123EV 52,095,825 - 42.3%

Top 3 best results
P/C
VT- 75.7%
NY-75.2%
MA-72.3%

P/R
UT - 58.6%
WY - 57.9%
AL - 57.3%

13 states had margins of 4% or less.

The closest state you may ask?

Washington (for f**k's sake) which I won by 616 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 03, 2008, 07:40:29 PM
I ran as myself Senator Conor Flynn of Maine, in the 2008 Democratic Primaries against Senator Hillary Clinton of New York and Senator Barack Obama of Illinois. Considering I lost the Democratic Nomination to Congressman Dennis Kucinich of Ohio, when we were both locked on 0% each the last time I played, I modified my percentages so I was at 15% in every state.

The Primaries began with myself trailing behind Barack Obama and consequently Hillary Clinton who started out with a massive lead over both myself and Obama. Slowly but surely I concentrated on all the early New England primary states and few out west (California and Colorado from memory). Although the campaign didn't gain much momentum from my victory in New Hampshire, defeating Hillary Clinton by 1 percent, Super Tuesday was where I began to shine.

By early March, I found myself within 200 delegates of Barack Obama and 400 of Hillary Clinton. By the end of the month, I received Barack Obama's endorsement and was now leading Hillary Clinton in the delegate stakes. Although I won about 80 percent of the remaining Presidential Primaries, except for Pennsylvania and Kentucky (which I was leading for about a month), Hillary didn't withdraw until I gave her all my political influence points so I could end her campaign and she finally dropped out in late June, just days out from the Convention to be precise.

Prior to Hillary's withdrawl from the 2008 Democratic Primaries on June 28, 2008, this is what the Presidential Primary map looked like, inclusive of Barack Obama's endorsement of my campaign for President. The map would have looked moreso convincing in my favour, as I had a huge delegate lead over Hillary in some states such as Iowa, California, New Jersey, etc.

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Senator Conor Flynn of Maine: 2349 delegates
Senator Hillary Clinton of New York: 1562 delegates

Once I had finally received Senator Clinton's endorsement in June, I was finally able to campaign in the General against the Republican's nominee Senator John McCain of Arizona, who narrowly defeated Mitt Romney for the 2008 Republican Nomination. At both of the respective Conventions, I selected Senator Jim Webb of Virginia as my running mate and McCain selected Governor Mark Sanford of South Carolina.

Upon the Convention, I received a bounce of 2 percent and I retained that bounce over Senator McCain during the course of the Presidential campaign. There was some points during the campaign in which I was leading in Montana, Colorado, New Mexico, Virginia and Missouri, which all consisted of my grand Presidential strategy. But thanks to a power 9 scandal on John McCain's behalf I slipped behind McCain in the polls and consequently losed them all on Election Day.

On Election Day, I won the Presidency of the United States defeating Arizona Senator John McCain to succeed George W. Bush in the White House. Although I won the Presidency, the Electoral College map produced a boring map, not an obscure on like in Polnut's last post :(

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Conor L. Flynn/Jim Webb (D): 311 EV, 52.4% of the PV (60,959,576)
John McCain/Mark Sanford (R): 227 EV, 47.6% of the PV (55,393,422)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on July 03, 2008, 08:56:02 PM
Wow, I just discovered that putting P4E+P onto a new computer is way easy... yay automation :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 03, 2008, 10:21:05 PM
To be far Rocks,

I was running against Paul - you, against McCain - you had a harder time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 03, 2008, 10:24:21 PM
To be far Rocks,

I was running against Paul - you, against McCain - you had a harder time.

I know, but still on ocassions that I have played President Forever, particularly the normal 80soft 2008 scenario I have gotten some bizzare results, but none more as obscure as your latest one against Ron Paul. That reminds me, once I ran as Pat Buchanan in 80soft's 2000 Presidential scenario, I didn't campaign at all for the Presidenc, somehow managed to get 2.4% of the vote and Vice President Gore smashed Bush, Bush didn't even win a single southern state. Hehe.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 06, 2008, 02:51:31 AM
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John B. Anderson/Howard H. Baker (R): 535 EV, 62.7% of the PV (49,655,042)
James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale (D): 3 EV, 37.3% of the PV (29,507,024)

I ran as Congressman John B. Anderson against incumbent President Jimmy Carter. I won by a landslide, even surpassing Lyndon B. Johnson's landslide victory over Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona in 1964 by 1.4%. The state that I had my hopes on was the District of Columbia, I ended up missing out on a 50 state sweep along with a 538 Electoral College vote sweep by a mere nine points. 



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Wendell Willkie/Thomas E. Dewey (R): 321 EV, 50% of the PV (30,082,565)
Henry A. Wallace/Harry S. Truman (D): 210 EV, 49% of the PV (29,299,697)

Prior to my landslide victory as Congressman John B. Anderson of Illinois, I ran as Wendell Willkie in the 1944 Normandy Nightmare scenario against incumbent Vice President Henry A. Wallace. Throughout the entire campaign, the Election was neck-and-neck between the two candidates. Although there was one stage during the campaign where I thought I was gaining leverage over Vice President Wallace due to attacking his stance on Communism, Wallace pulled back and attacked me due my integrity, which popped up as a power 8 scandal some two weeks prior to Election Day.

However it wasn't to be, I Wendell Willkie, who should have died in August 1944 was elected President of the United States in November 1944 defeating incumbent Vice President Henry A. Wallace in one of the closest Presidential Election in American History.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 06, 2008, 08:11:26 AM
I have excellent news. I bought President Forever :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 06, 2008, 09:22:17 AM

Which one?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 06, 2008, 10:06:32 AM

Congrats :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 06, 2008, 07:18:47 PM

The latest one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 08, 2008, 05:25:32 AM
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Walter F. Mondale/Gary W. Hart (D): 285 EV, 51% of the PV (50,956,362)
Ronald W. Reagan/George H.W. Bush (R): 253 EV, 48% of the PV (48,730,720)

As Paul Keating finely put it upon his 1993 Election victory over then Opposition Leader John Hewson, "The Sweetest Victory of them All" and this statement made by Keating is the same for this 1984 Presidential Election. I ran as Walter Mondale and for the first time, I won against incumbent President Ronald Reagan. Of course I started way behind Reagan in the polls but with my carefully laid out strategy and themes of the campaign I turned the tables against Reagan in my favour forcing the Election to be on knifes edge on Election Day.

The closest states in this 1984 Presidential Election were surprisingly Alaska, Ohio and New Mexico which I all lost and by less than 1 percent of the votes. However that is probably my mistake as I didn't begin to run all of my advertisements across the United States until two days prior to Election Day. But hey look at the bright side  I defeated Ronald Reagan as Fritz Mondale :D.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on July 08, 2008, 10:29:56 AM
But hey look at the bright side  I defeated Ronald Reagan as Fritz Mondale :D.

That's the "bright side"?  Four years (or worse, eight) of Mondale would have been disasterous.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 08, 2008, 04:52:16 PM
But hey look at the bright side  I defeated Ronald Reagan as Fritz Mondale :D.

That's the "bright side"?  Four years (or worse, eight) of Mondale would have been disasterous.

Whilst a Mondale Presidency probably would have been disasterous for the United States, nothing beats that feeling of defeating President Ronald Reagan for re-election in 1984, considering it's to date the first and only time that's occured.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on July 08, 2008, 05:35:34 PM
But hey look at the bright side  I defeated Ronald Reagan as Fritz Mondale :D.

That's the "bright side"?  Four years (or worse, eight) of Mondale would have been disasterous.

Whilst a Mondale Presidency probably would have been disasterous for the United States, nothing beats that feeling of defeating President Ronald Reagan for re-election in 1984, considering it's to date the first and only time that's occured.

Still a Mondale presidency could'nt have been much worse for America than the Reagan one was.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 08, 2008, 07:55:11 PM
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I played as the Greenie. Polls gave me around 4%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 08, 2008, 08:38:24 PM
I actually "won" playing as the nutjob Royer, but "lost" due to a weird EC result :(

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Barack Obama/Bill Richardson (D) 310 EV, 48.3% of the PV (56,671,767)
Jean Royer/Sam Brownback (R) 228 EV, 51.7% of the PV (60,688,656)

lol @ DC. A Royer-like Republican would poll like 1% there.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 08, 2008, 10:07:54 PM
I actually "won" playing as the nutjob Royer, but "lost" due to a weird EC result :(

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Barack Obama/Bill Richardson (D) 310 EV, 48.3% of the PV (56,671,767)
Jean Royer/Sam Brownback (R) 228 EV, 51.7% of the PV (60,688,656)

lol @ DC. A Royer-like Republican would poll like 1% there.

That's a pretty big loss for a win.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 10, 2008, 12:47:57 AM
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Nelson A. Rockefeller/Howard H. Baker (R): 315 EV, 40.6% of the PV (32,436,914)
Hubert H. Humphrey/Edmund S. Muskie (D): 120 EV, 35.9% of the PV (28,676,914)
George C. Wallace/Curtis E. LeMay (AI): 103 EV, 23.5% of the PV (18,773,533)

To date this is the best result I have managed as Alabama Governor George C. Wallace. 103 Electoral College votes and 23.5% of the Popular Vote. Governor Wallace's campaign for the Presidency of the United States was mainly focused on Law and Order, the Vietnam War and Integrity. However it was the Law and Order issue that worked both for my own stance on the issue, but against both Governor Rockefeller and Vice President Humphrey and that's what helped propell me to win a few states in the outer south and even come second in Ohio.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 11, 2008, 03:26:22 PM
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Kennedy: 60% PV, 537 EV
Nixon: 40% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 12, 2008, 03:11:48 AM
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2005 Soviet Union Presidential Election Results

Vladimir Putin/Gennady Zyuganov (C): 198 EV, 37% of the PV (60,949,411)
Mikhail Gorbachev/Boris Gryzlov (CPSU): 146 EV, 62% of the PV (101,066,494)

I ran as Mikhail Gorbachev against Vladimir Putin in the 2005 Soviet Union scenario. It's a great scenario, I highly recommend downloading it. However I suggest don't run as a Reform candidate in the scenario. You cannot win. I tried as Boris Yeltsin this morning and I was soundly defeated by Gorbachev, the CPSU candidate. 

You would think the popular reformist two term President of the Soviet Union would defeat the unknown Conservative candidate Vladimir Putin. But guess who won? Damned Russian Politics. You can never win as the good guy :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 12, 2008, 07:29:11 AM
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Vladimir Putin/Gennady Zyuganov

lol haha lol

Still, I'm not too happy that I can't play that scenario in the PF+P 2008 version.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 12, 2008, 11:35:56 AM
NY 2010 Gubernatorial scenario: Clinton (me) vs. Giuliani

Clinton (D) 6,480,194 (57.2%); 782 EV
Giuliani (R) 4,388,085 (38.7%); 605 EV
McReynolds (Grn) 457,261 (4%); 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 12, 2008, 12:17:31 PM
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Johnson: 63% PV, 538 EV
Goldwater: 37% PV, 0 EV

The closest state was North Carolina, decided by 525 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 12, 2008, 08:09:48 PM
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Wilson: 60% PV, 432 EV
Hughes: 40% PV, 99 EV

Closest state was New Jersey, decided by 452 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 13, 2008, 09:01:03 AM
I played as Dean in the very silly "New England Secession" scenario for PF+P.

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Obama/Clinton (D) 62,601,322 (52.7%) 402 EV
Crist/Cheney (R) 49,295,551 (41.5%) 136 EV
Dean/? (New England Secession) 6,876,826 (5.8%) 0 EV

Some of my best results:

Second in MA with 28.5%
Rhode Island: 20.8%
New Hampshire: 20.1%
Maine: 20.1%
Connecticut: 20%
Vermont: 19.5%
Nebraska (WTF?): 16.9%
Minnesota: 18%
Delaware: 12.2%
Wisconsin: 8.9%
Idaho: 8.5%
Indiana: 7.9%

lol game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 13, 2008, 11:35:50 AM
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Humphrey: 47% PV, 394 EV
Nixon: 33% PV, 64 EV
Wallace: 19% PV, 80 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 18, 2008, 05:09:17 AM
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William J. Clinton/Albert A. Gore (D): 284 EV, 43% of the PV (47,284,478)
George H.W. Bush/J. Danforth Quayle (R): 217 EV, 37% of the PV (41,020,610)
H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I): 37 EV, 19% of the PV (21,439,875).

I ran as Perot and mainly posted my scenario due to the weirdness of the 1992 Electoral College map, not to mention almost the exact Popular Vote results as in the RL 1992 Presidential Election. Despite Bush and Clinton collecting more than 50-60% in more than just one state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 18, 2008, 05:11:14 PM

Yup. Nobody who was anybody in the CPSU stayed around for the KPRF.

And WTF KFSSR?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 18, 2008, 07:05:17 PM

Yup. Nobody who was anybody in the CPSU stayed around for the KPRF.

And WTF KFSSR?

Oh, lol2, didn't even notice Karelia as an SSR on there. Lolz.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 18, 2008, 08:22:34 PM
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Johnson: 63% PV, 538 EV
Goldwater: 37% PV, 0 EV

The closest state was North Carolina, decided by 525 votes.

Dynamism?

I've never used it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 20, 2008, 12:34:06 AM
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Jindal/Sanford (R) 53,348,881 (44.3) 303 EV
Warner/Clark (D) 49,717,938 (41.3) 213 EV
Dean/Dukakis (NES) 17,286,551 (14.4) 22 EV

I played the New England Secession scenario, as the New England Secession Party, with Howard Dean as my candidate. Focused the entire campaign on the New England states, and won 5 out of 6 of them, losing Massachusetts by just 16,000 votes (.5%). Besides New England, I came in second in DC, and had some random weird high results in various states (22% in Mississippi, nearly beat Warner in Montana).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 20, 2008, 04:27:53 AM
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Mary Moore/Brian Phillips (D): 342 EV, 54% of the PV (67,366,156)
Roy Webb/Christopher Warren (R): 196 EV, 45% of the PV (56,871,541)

I played in my custom made 2008 scenario for the original President Forever as Senator Mary Moore of Oregon against Congressman Roy Webb of Colorado. Throughout the Presidential Campaign of 2008, it was a hard fought and tight race between Webb and Moore. However I managed to pull narrowly ahead of Webb in the final week of the Campaign, thus giving me (Senator Moore) an advantage on Election Day.

The closest state you ask? Oklahoma. Given to Congressman Webb by just 260 votes. Despite Congressman Webb leading Oklahoma by more than 20 points on Election Day, I somehow managed to pull back a twenty point margin. And those boys at ARG thought they got their polling wrong at the Democratic New Hampshire Primary. LOL.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 21, 2008, 12:06:14 AM
LOL Iowa.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 21, 2008, 02:26:11 AM
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Roy Webb/Christopher Warren (R): 330 EV, 53% of the PV (66,728,503)
Mary Moore/Brian Phillips (D): 208 EV, 46% of the PV (57,442,342)

I played once again in my custom made scenario for the original President Forever, this time as Colorado Congressman Roy Webb. Coming into Election Day, it was a tie between Webb and Moore in the polls. However, according to statewide polling, I had exactly 270 Electoral College votes which would see me become President of the United States and on Election Night it was to be the case. Though on Election Night I was surprised with some of the results. Most notably the conservative Webb winning Rhode Island, over the tailor-made liberal for Rhode Island: Senator Moore and the shading of Wisconsin. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 26, 2008, 08:10:33 PM
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Obama: 58.8% PV, 446 EV
McCain: 41.2% PV, 92 EV

Closest state was MS, decided by 8,809 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on July 27, 2008, 01:48:28 AM
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Saffle/Warner: 483
McCain/Romney: 55


...bawlerrrr.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 27, 2008, 02:00:49 AM
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Barry Goldwater/William E. Miller (R): 286 EV, 51% of the PV (40,723,579)
Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert H. Humphrey (D): 252 EV, 48% of the PV (37,834,652)

I ran as Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona in a 1964 scenario for the original President Forever. I somehow managed to win the Presidency of the United States after trailing Lyndon B. Johnson in the polls by 22 points at the start of the 1964 Presidential campaign and win despite trailing Johnson 51-43 in Election Day polls. President Forever has it's ways doesn't it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on July 27, 2008, 01:48:48 PM
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Warner: 57.7% PV, 409 EV
Romney: 42.3% PV, 129 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 28, 2008, 12:49:31 AM
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Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert H. Humphrey (D): 270 EV, 49% of the PV (39,067,006)
Conor L. Flynn/Mark O. Hatfield (R): 266 EV, 50% of the PV (39,656,501)

Considering that I was able to defeat President Lyndon Johnson as Senator Barry Goldwater last night, I tried to defeat President Lyndon Johnson as the moderate Governor Conor Flynn of Maine. Whilst I did win the Popular Vote by 589,495 votes I lost the 1964 Presidential Election. I could have won the Presidency had either Illinois, New Jersey, Indiana or Florida voted for Governor Flynn, but Conor Flynn as President of the United States during the 1960's was not to be :(

I was quite surprised with the results of the Presidential Election and no because of how close it was. Throughout the Presidential Campaign of 1964 I was trailing President Johnson in every Poll, including the last Poll taken on Election Day and this is what the expected Electoral College map of 1964 was supposed to look like (according to Polls anyway):

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Lyndon B. Johnson/Hubert H. Humphrey (D): 397 EV, 50% of the PV
Conor L. Flynn/Mark O. Hatfield (R): 138 EV, 44% of the PV
Undecided 2% of the PV

Damn President Forever >:(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 28, 2008, 12:59:50 PM
You didn't win Maine?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on July 28, 2008, 04:34:38 PM

Nope. I lost it 54-45 to Johnson. So much for being "popular" in Maine :P.

Have no idea why I lost it. Even though I campaigned in Maine heavily and ran all of my commercials there from the start of the 1964 Presidential Campaign from September to November. Most importantly is how did I win the Deep South and won 80% of the vote in Mississippi?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 03, 2008, 09:03:00 PM
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Clark: 61.6% PV, 538 EV
Frist: 38.4% PV, 0 EV

Closest state was Oklahoma, decided by 1,905 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 05, 2008, 08:04:12 PM
My ultimate political dream: Warner whipping Romney's ass.
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Warner: 62.7% PV, 538 EV
Romney: 37.3% PV, 0 EV

Closest state was Wyoming, decided by 11,662 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 05, 2008, 09:17:47 PM
You win in a landslide every time. Change the level.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on August 06, 2008, 01:44:38 AM
My ultimate political dream: Warner whipping Romney's ass.

And mines Paul Wellstone getting whipped by Barbara Milkulski. Take your pick.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 06, 2008, 05:16:58 PM
My ultimate political dream: Warner whipping Romney's ass.
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Warner: 62.7% PV, 538 EV
Romney: 37.3% PV, 0 EV

Closest state was Wyoming, decided by 11,662 votes.

     I'd expect Warner to do better against Romney.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 08, 2008, 03:43:08 PM
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Reagan: 60.8% PV, 523 EV
Carter: 39.2% PV, 15 EV

Closest state was Georgia, decided by 20,206 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on August 08, 2008, 04:25:28 PM
You win in a landslide every time. Change the level.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 08, 2008, 04:26:35 PM

I did this one on hard.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on August 08, 2008, 04:27:11 PM
Sure.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on August 09, 2008, 05:28:41 AM
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James E. Carter/Walter F. Mondale (D): 51% of the PV (51,666,761)
Ronald W. Reagan/George H.W. Bush (R): 48% of the PV (48,208,786)

I ran as incumbent President Jimmy Carter against former Governor Ronald Reagan without Congressman John B. Anderson running as an Independent, and I somehow managed to win a second term in the White House despite the issues of Inflation and the Oil Crisis not being settled by the Carter Administration prior to the 1980 Presidential Election. None the less, I was proud with my efforts, but I have produced much greater victories over Reagan as Carter ;).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 11, 2008, 07:48:58 PM
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Jackson/Carter: 51.3% PV, 405 EV
Ford/Dole: 45% PV, 133 EV
McCarthy/Various: 3.7% PV, 0 EV

Closest state was Nevada, decided by 1,830 votes.  McCarthy's best state was Idaho, where he got 10.2%; Ford won Idaho by 2%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 12, 2008, 08:18:01 PM
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Obama 269 50.8%
McCain 269 49.2%

Obama elected in the house.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on August 13, 2008, 07:10:02 AM
Wrong colours, dammit.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 13, 2008, 10:29:11 PM
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Powell: 63.9% PV, 538 EV
Clark: 36.1% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 14, 2008, 01:58:53 PM
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Powell: 63.9% PV, 538 EV
Clark: 36.1% PV, 0 EV

     ??? Powell wins D.C.?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 14, 2008, 03:29:46 PM

I started out in the primaries, and it seems like I always do better if I start with the primaries.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NOVA Green on August 16, 2008, 01:06:33 AM
Just downloaded my first pay copy (non free demo version) a few minutes ago.

Wish me luck folks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 16, 2008, 02:04:17 PM
Regular PF or PF+P?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 16, 2008, 05:39:28 PM
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Giuliani/Sanford 373 51.1%
Obama/Biden     165 47.8%
Barr/Root               0   1.1%

Obama almost won Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, and Nevada. For a Dem he performed really well out west, while Rudy did well in the industrial NE.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 16, 2008, 05:44:36 PM
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Giuliani/Sanford 373 51.1%
Obama/Biden     165 47.8%
Barr/Root               0   1.1%

Obama almost won Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, and Nevada. For a Dem he performed really well out west, while Rudy did well in the industrial NE.

     ??? But in your map, he does win Nevada.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 16, 2008, 05:56:48 PM
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Giuliani/Sanford 373 51.1%
Obama/Biden     165 47.8%
Barr/Root               0   1.1%

Obama almost won Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, and Nevada. For a Dem he performed really well out west, while Rudy did well in the industrial NE.

     ??? But in your map, he does win Nevada.

Oops. I miss spoke. What's even more amazing is that Giuliani almost won Vermont. He lost it by 3,000 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 16, 2008, 06:05:31 PM
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Giuliani/Sanford 373 51.1%
Obama/Biden     165 47.8%
Barr/Root               0   1.1%

Obama almost won Colorado, Montana, New Mexico, and Nevada. For a Dem he performed really well out west, while Rudy did well in the industrial NE.

     ??? But in your map, he does win Nevada.

Oops. I miss spoke. What's even more amazing is that Giuliani almost won Vermont. He lost it by 3,000 votes.

     That is funny. In the real world, Vermont will probably be Obama's strongest state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NOVA Green on August 17, 2008, 12:34:01 AM

PF & P... I still haven't found the link where I can buy the original. If any of you have that, it would be most appreciated.

BTW: Got my ass kicked as Obama before Super Tuesday for the first time. I overplayed my hand and won only 2/4 original primaries/Iowa, which is actually my worse showing for Obama yet. I think I tried too hard to play ahead for Super Tuesday knowing that I wasn't playing the demo game for the first time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 17, 2008, 08:38:24 PM
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Nixon: 62% PV, 538 EV
McGovern: 38% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 17, 2008, 09:06:13 PM
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Nixon: 62% PV, 538 EV
McGovern: 38% PV, 0 EV

Why do you play this game? You win it with 538EVs every time. That can't be fun.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 17, 2008, 09:11:23 PM
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Nixon: 62% PV, 538 EV
McGovern: 38% PV, 0 EV

Why do you play this game? You win it with 538EVs every time. That can't be fun.

I don't post all my results, just the odd results.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on August 17, 2008, 10:07:26 PM
Since I had free time tonight I decided to run this election. It involves Ben Constine and gporter. I hope neither is offended that I put them in my P4E game without their consent, I was just so interested to see what would happen in this election. I ran as a joke independent candidate with no money and did no campaigning.

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BenConstine/Sensei (D): 278 EV; 50% of the PV (62,981,920 votes)  
Gporter/Inks (R): 260 EV; 49% of the PV (61,125,903 votes)
Joe Kanjowski (I): 0 EV; 0% of the PV (259,260 working men!)

The Constine Administration will now begin, and I may just have the president run for reelection and report on those reults.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 17, 2008, 10:08:09 PM
Since I had free time tonight I decided to run this election. It involves Ben Constine and gporter. I hope neither is offended that I put them in my P4E game without their consent, I was just so interested to see what would happen in this election. I ran as a joke independent candidate with no money and did no campaigning.

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BenConstine/Sensei (D): 278 EV; 50% of the PV (62,981,920 votes)  
Gporter/Inks (R): 260 EV; 49% of the PV (61,125,903 votes)
Joe Kanjowski (I): 0 EV; )% of the PV (259,260 working men!)

The Constine Administration will now begin, and I may just have the president run for reelection and report on those reults.

What was my platform (awesome, btw)?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on August 17, 2008, 10:13:15 PM
Ben-

Abortion: C
Affirmitive Action: C
Balanced Budget: CR
Business Tax: C
Campaign Finance Reform: C
Ecology: CL
Education: CL
Free Trade: CL
Gun Control: CR
Same-Sex Marriage: C
Immigration: C
Millitary Funding: CR
Millitary Intervention: CR
Personal Tax: C
Public Health Care: CL
Renewable Energy: CL
Social Security: CL
Terrorism: CL


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 17, 2008, 10:15:54 PM
Ben-

Abortion: C
Affirmitive Action: C
Balanced Budget: CR
Business Tax: C
Campaign Finance Reform: C
Ecology: CL
Education: CL
Free Trade: CL
Gun Control: CR
Same-Sex Marriage: C
Immigration: C
Millitary Funding: CR
Millitary Intervention: CR
Personal Tax: C
Public Health Care: CL
Renewable Energy: CL
Social Security: CL
Terrorism: CL

Interesting; what version, and what scenario did you use?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on August 17, 2008, 10:17:27 PM
Ben,

I used the original 2004 verion of P4E and it was the original 2004 scenario that comes with the program. Republicans actually have a slight edge in this scenario, so you must have been a very good candidate to beat Senator Porter.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on August 17, 2008, 10:22:51 PM
Ben,

I used the original 2004 verion of P4E and it was the original 2004 scenario that comes with the program. Republicans actually have a slight edge in this scenario, so you must have been a very good candidate to beat Senator Porter.
Can you run me in a scenario vs somebody?

Abortion: CL
Affirmative Action: CL
Balanced Budget: C
Business Tax: C
Campaign Finance Reform: C
Ecology: CL
Education: CL
Free Trade: C
Gun Control: C
Same-Sex Marriage: CL
Immigration: C
Military Funding: C
Military Intervention: CL
Personal Tax: CL
Public Healthcare: CL
Renewable Energy: CL
Social Security: CL
Terrorism: CL


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 17, 2008, 10:24:32 PM
Ben,

I used the original 2004 verion of P4E and it was the original 2004 scenario that comes with the program. Republicans actually have a slight edge in this scenario, so you must have been a very good candidate to beat Senator Porter.

Interesting.  What was Gporter's platform?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 17, 2008, 10:27:30 PM
     I haven't played in forever, & I don't have PF on my computer anymore, but I found an old result of mine, that I had saved in Paint & replicated using the EV calculator:

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     This is 1912. I took Taft out & ran as Teddy Roosevelt. Overwhelming margin of victory aside, my strong performance in Texas is actually kind of shocking. It's also worth mentioning that in DE & RI, I was trailing by 25+% at the final poll, but won RI & narrowly lost DE.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on August 17, 2008, 10:33:15 PM
Since I had free time tonight I decided to run this election. It involves Ben Constine and gporter. I hope neither is offended that I put them in my P4E game without their consent, I was just so interested to see what would happen in this election. I ran as a joke independent candidate with no money and did no campaigning.

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BenConstine/Sensei (D): 278 EV; 50% of the PV (62,981,920 votes)  
Gporter/Inks (R): 260 EV; 49% of the PV (61,125,903 votes)
Joe Kanjowski (I): 0 EV; )% of the PV (259,260 working men!)

The Constine Administration will now begin, and I may just have the president run for reelection and report on those reults.

What was my platform (awesome, btw)?

Likewise with mine PBrunsel ;). That scenario looks pretty awesome if you ask me. Could you send it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 17, 2008, 10:35:58 PM
Since I had free time tonight I decided to run this election. It involves Ben Constine and gporter. I hope neither is offended that I put them in my P4E game without their consent, I was just so interested to see what would happen in this election. I ran as a joke independent candidate with no money and did no campaigning.

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BenConstine/Sensei (D): 278 EV; 50% of the PV (62,981,920 votes)  
Gporter/Inks (R): 260 EV; 49% of the PV (61,125,903 votes)
Joe Kanjowski (I): 0 EV; )% of the PV (259,260 working men!)

The Constine Administration will now begin, and I may just have the president run for reelection and report on those reults.

What was my platform (awesome, btw)?

Likewise with mine PBrunsel ;). That scenario looks pretty awesome if you ask me. Could you send it?

It's just the basic 2004 scenario for P4E; he just created the candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 17, 2008, 10:51:08 PM
     Run me! Here are my positions:

Abortion -- CR
Affirmative Action -- R
Balanced Budget -- R
Business Tax -- CL
Campaign Finance Reform -- L
Ecology -- C
Education -- CR
Free Trade -- CR
Gun Control -- CR
Same-Sex Marriage -- L
Immigration -- C
Military Funding -- C
Military Intervention -- CR
Personal Tax -- C
Public Health Care -- CL
Renewable Energy -- C
Social Security -- CR
Terrorism -- C


     By the way, I found another old result of mine:

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     This is 1860, without Douglas, with me running as Lincoln. With the North as safe as possible for me, I went on a whirlwind tour around the South. Two huge scandals limited my gains to DE, MO, & NJ. :( Still, I got a scandal on Breckinridge, causing Bell to make big gains. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on August 18, 2008, 05:52:41 PM
President Constine faces reelection (I made the Democrats the incumbent party for the Ultimate 2008 scenario). He faces The Physicist, who is a California congressman.

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BenConstine/Sensei (D): 284 EV; 51% of the PV (63,803,665 votes)
The Physicist/AHDuke99 (R): 254 EV; 48% of the PV (60,159,298 votes)
Joe Kanjowski (I): 0 EV; 0% of the PV (416,355 working men!)  

President Constine will get four more years in the President Forever Universe. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 18, 2008, 06:06:40 PM
President Constine faces reelection (I made the Democrats the incumbent party for the Ultimate 2008 scenario). He faces The Physicist, who is a California congressman.

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BenConstine/Sensei (D): 284 EV; 51% of the PV (63,803,665 votes)
The Physicist/AHDuke99 (R): 254 EV; 48% of the PV (60,159,298 votes)
Joe Kanjowski (I): 0 EV; 0% of the PV (416,355 working men!)  

President Constine will get four more years in the President Forever Universe. :)

     Sweet, I won Wisconsin. :) Losing the actual race sucks though. :( Still, I'm surprised that Constine broke 60% in Virginia.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on August 18, 2008, 06:07:10 PM
This is for EMD. I ran him against MasterJedi, who I hope is not offended that I added him to P4E.

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MasterJedi/Supersoulty (R): 280 EV; 50% of the PV (62,338,596 votes)
EMD/Josh22 (D): 258 EV; 49% of the PV (61,731,235 votes)  
Joe Kanjowsji (I): 0 EC; 0% of the PV (321,929 working men!)






Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 18, 2008, 06:12:54 PM
This is for EMD. I ran him against MasterJedi, who I hope is not offended that I added him to P4E.

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MasterJedi/Supersoulty (R): 280 EV; 50% of the PV (62,338,596 votes)
EMD/Josh22 (D): 258 EV; 49% of the PV (61,731,235 votes)  
Joe Kanjowsji (I): 0 EC; 0% of the PV (321,929 working men!)


     :o Alaska went R >70%? I guess EMD campaigned on selling it back to Russia. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on August 18, 2008, 06:49:59 PM
Can anybody send me the old P4E throught Mediafire or something? I already bought it but it was lost in a virus.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 20, 2008, 02:46:34 PM
From the WTF department:

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Bush/Cheney: 342 EV, 50.4%
Kerry/Edwards: 196 EV, 47.4%
Badnarik/Campagna: 1%
Peroutka/Baldwin: 0.9%
Nader/Camejo: 0.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 20, 2008, 09:29:14 PM
From the WTF department:

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Bush/Cheney: 342 EV, 50.4%
Kerry/Edwards: 196 EV, 47.4%
Badnarik/Campagna: 1%
Peroutka/Baldwin: 0.9%
Nader/Camejo: 0.4%

     I found one (this is the last one I archived) that's just as strange. It's Clark (me) v. Bush v. a third party guy I gave a ton of cash & a huge base of support in the Great Plains:

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     It's crazy. Bush won Ohio, but lost Oklahoma & Kansas. Never mind the percentages (Clark did better in Oklahoma than Vermont?!).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 20, 2008, 09:30:53 PM
From the WTF department:

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Bush/Cheney: 342 EV, 50.4%
Kerry/Edwards: 196 EV, 47.4%
Badnarik/Campagna: 1%
Peroutka/Baldwin: 0.9%
Nader/Camejo: 0.4%

WTF!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on August 21, 2008, 06:41:02 AM
Can anybody send me the old P4E throught Mediafire or something? I already bought it but it was lost in a virus. just don't want to buy it :-p


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 21, 2008, 02:58:40 PM
Can anybody send me the old P4E throught Mediafire or something? I already bought it but it was lost in a virus. just don't want to buy it :-p Deleted by my crazy mother.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Colin on August 21, 2008, 03:06:33 PM
Can anybody send me the old P4E throught Mediafire or something? I already bought it but it was lost in a virus. just don't want to buy it :-p Deleted by my crazy mother.

Contact 80soft or Theoryspark or whatever they're called now and they will allow you to redownload the game. I did this when I got my new computer about a year ago and they got back to me quickly with a link from which I could download the old version of P4E. They still sell P4E so they still have it available for download.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 21, 2008, 03:16:40 PM
Another WTF:

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Gore/Lieberman: 313 EV, 44.2%
Bush/Cheney: 225 EV, 39.9%
Nader/LaDuke: 8.4%
Browne/Olivier: 3.5%
Phillips/Frazier: 3%
Buchanan/Foster: 0.9%

Ignoring the crazy percentages for a moment (Bush finished third in DC), focus on the sheer improbability of both candidates losing their home states.

To compare, here's what the map would look had every Nader voter voted Gore:

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Gore/Lieberman: 411 EV, 52.6%
Bush/Cheney: 127 EV, 39.9%
Browne/Olivier: 3.5%
Phillips/Frazier: 3%
Buchanan/Foster: 0.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 21, 2008, 05:02:57 PM
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Lugar: 44.4% PV, 283 EV
Clinton: 44.3% PV, 255 EV
Perot: 11.3% PV, 0 EV

Closest state was New Hampshire, decided by 503 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 21, 2008, 05:44:14 PM
I almost did it!  Stupid Nevada ruined my complete shutout...

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Mitt Romney (R) - 533 - 66.9%
John Edwards (D) - 5 - 33.1%

I broke 80% in Alaska and Georgia.  The closest states were Nevada, Delaware, and Rhode Island.

Weird.  Nevada instead of DC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 21, 2008, 10:09:17 PM
I feel so very bad for you :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 21, 2008, 10:35:10 PM
Awesome result from 1976:
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Carter: 48.9% PV, 273 EV
Ford: 48.4% PV, 265 EV
McCarthy: 2.7% PV, 0 EV

South Dakota was the closest state, at 306 votes.  If it had gone to Ford, the election would've been tied; California tied at 48.8%, and went to Ford by 1,936 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on August 22, 2008, 06:19:03 AM
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Chuck Buchanan/Steve Conrad (R): 240 EV, 31% of the PV (38,983,111)
Gary Lewis/Henrietta Chisholm (D): 230 EV, 35% of the PV (44,496,215)
Patricia Swift/Dennis McGuire (G): 47 EV, 17% of the PV (21,412,791)
Nathan Bobrick/Barbara Mitchell (I): 21 EV, 16% of the PV (20,265,252)

I played my custom made 2008 scenario, this time as Green candidate Patricia Swift of New York. And what a weird election it turned out to be. As usual, I didn't begin running my commercials until the last two weeks of the 2008 Presidential Campaign and in the process, I found myself leading in New York on Election Day narrowly over the Democratic candidate Gary Lewis of Tennessee. On Election Night, I managed to win New York, as long as Virginia and Vermont and in the process caused about ten states to be decided with the winner gaining 30 percent, even 20 percent in Ohio. Sadly, I didn't win as Swift, as the United States Congress' selected Gary Lewis to become President.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 22, 2008, 04:39:14 PM
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Clinton: 39.2% PV, 374 EV
Bush: 35.1% PV, 106 EV
Perot: 25.6% PV, 58 EV

Closest state was Alaska, decided by 245 votes; South Dakota went by 293 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on August 29, 2008, 01:28:05 AM
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Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo (I): 402 EV, 50% of the PV (62,399,040)
John Kerry/John Edwards (D): 119 EV, 37% of the PV (46,409,712)
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R): 17 EV, 12% of the PV (15,252,019)

Early this afternoon I was bored, so I decided to run a little experiment on the original President Forever. My experiment involved myself running as both President Bush and Senator Kerry, however I would not be campaigning nor would I be running any advertisements. The only thing that I would do in the six week campaign would be changing all of my platform. For two weeks Kerry was the conservative and Bush was the liberal, then the following week it was vice versa, then in the final week of the campaign both Kerry and Bush were moderates. Then, the rest is history. Ralph Nader was elected President of the United States. May God have mercy on us all.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 29, 2008, 11:02:23 AM
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Perot: 33.5% PV, 275 EV
Clinton: 34.1% PV, 148 EV
Bush: 32.4% PV, 115 EV

Closest state was Delaware, decided by 281 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on August 29, 2008, 02:13:22 PM
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Perot: 33.5% PV, 275 EV
Clinton: 34.1% PV, 148 EV
Bush: 32.4% PV, 115 EV

Closest state was Delaware, decided by 281 votes.

     Alabama was R>60%? Did Perot & Clinton forget it existed? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 30, 2008, 04:55:44 PM
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Gore: 40.5% PV, 293 EV
Bush: 36.5% PV, 147 EV
Buchanan: 23% PV, 98 EV


Closest state was Idaho, decided by 556 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on August 30, 2008, 04:56:46 PM
Playing as Bob Barr in the 2008 scenario.

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Clinton 52.3% (301 EV)
Romney 43.7% (237 EV)
Barr 3%
Baldwin 1%

Best state for Barr was Texas, with 9.4%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on August 31, 2008, 09:13:12 AM
1992

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Wilder 46.9% 524EV
Buchanan 32.8% 14EV
Perot 20.3% 0EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 01, 2008, 04:23:46 PM
I've realized that the original scenarios are a scam in PF + P. I mean, all you have to do is release 2 scandals and run a 50 state ad campaign the week before the election and you'll win in a landslide. I did the 1980 scenario with Reagan v. Carter v. Anderson and trailed Carter 48-35-10 and ended up winning 47-38-15.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 01, 2008, 04:46:40 PM
DC?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on September 01, 2008, 06:26:21 PM
So, I spacebarred through 2004 as Badnarik, when some very odd things started to happen.  First, I checked out the election map after the primaries.

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Um, oookay... Edwards must've gotten a bit desperate, because...

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He may be a maverick, but suicidal?  Meanwhile Dick Cheney must've had a heart attack because Bush picked Condi.  In October...

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I, expecting a good deal of fun, was eager for election day.  Then I got some fatal errors on Election Day itself >_<  Silly 80soft.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 01, 2008, 06:28:24 PM
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Reagan: 65.3% PV, 538 EV
Mondale: 34.7% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on September 01, 2008, 06:32:57 PM
Spacebarring through 2008 to check whether it's a universal error:

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Clinton/? overwhelmingly defeats Giuliani/Palin

It's not!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 01, 2008, 07:16:02 PM
I played in my home-made France-in-the-US game as Nicolas Sarkozy, who picked Francois Goulard (lolz) as his running mate.

Fabius came from behind, losing every state, to beat Royal and picked DSK as his running mate.

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Sarkozy/Goulard (R) 40,385,127 34.5% (383EV)
Bayrou/de Sarnez (Centrist) 33,092,866 28.3% (134EV)
Le Pen/Le Pen (C) 22,201,26319% (21EV)
Fabius/Strauss-Kahn (D) 21,223,763 18.2% (0EV)

Sarkozy won FL by 6,373 votes over Bayrou (his home state in this scenario)

California was a four-way race, Sarkozy taking 27% against 26.7% for Le Pen, 24.3% for Fabius, and 22% for Bayrou.

Le Pen was not on ballot in OK and Bayrou was not on the ballot in NH.

IL was weird. Sarkozy was leading or tied with Bayrou throughout the campaign there.

Like in France, pollsters were wrong on Le Pen: he was at 8% in the last poll IIRC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 01, 2008, 07:25:24 PM
I played in my home-made France-in-the-US game as Nicolas Sarkozy, who picked Francois Goulard (lolz) as his running mate.

Fabius came from behind, losing every state, to beat Royal and picked DSK as his running mate.

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Sarkozy/Goulard (R) 40,385,127 34.5% (383EV)
Bayrou/de Sarnez (Centrist) 33,092,866 28.3% (134EV)
Le Pen/Le Pen (C) 22,201,26319% (21EV)
Fabius/Strauss-Kahn (D) 21,223,763 18.2% (0EV)

Sarkozy won FL by 6,373 votes over Bayrou (his home state in this scenario)

California was a four-way race, Sarkozy taking 27% against 26.7% for Le Pen, 24.3% for Fabius, and 22% for Bayrou.

Le Pen was not on ballot in OK and Bayrou was not on the ballot in NH.

IL was weird. Sarkozy was leading or tied with Bayrou throughout the campaign there.

Like in France, pollsters were wrong on Le Pen: he was at 8% in the last poll IIRC.

     Did you then do a one-on-one race between Sarkozy & Bayrou to simulate the Deuxième Tour? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 01:22:57 PM
From the lolz department: When I was endorsed by the Alabama News, it got a -1 spin, when most/all other endorsements are +/-. Alabama lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 02:33:43 PM
I played in my home-made France-in-the-US game as Nicolas Sarkozy, who picked Francois Goulard (lolz) as his running mate.

Fabius came from behind, losing every state, to beat Royal and picked DSK as his running mate.

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Sarkozy/Goulard (R) 40,385,127 34.5% (383EV)
Bayrou/de Sarnez (Centrist) 33,092,866 28.3% (134EV)
Le Pen/Le Pen (C) 22,201,26319% (21EV)
Fabius/Strauss-Kahn (D) 21,223,763 18.2% (0EV)

Sarkozy won FL by 6,373 votes over Bayrou (his home state in this scenario)

California was a four-way race, Sarkozy taking 27% against 26.7% for Le Pen, 24.3% for Fabius, and 22% for Bayrou.

Le Pen was not on ballot in OK and Bayrou was not on the ballot in NH.

IL was weird. Sarkozy was leading or tied with Bayrou throughout the campaign there.

Like in France, pollsters were wrong on Le Pen: he was at 8% in the last poll IIRC.

     Did you then do a one-on-one race between Sarkozy & Bayrou to simulate the Deuxième Tour? ;)

Yes.

I think all Bayrou voters forgot that there was a runoff that day and slept all day.

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Sarkozy/Goulard (R) 60,338,870 99% (538EV)
Bayrou/de Sarnez (Centrist) 624,068 1%

Bayrou's best was 5.3% in DC.

Lol @ turnout. Any idea at what % turnout 61 million votes is?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 02, 2008, 03:12:37 PM
That looks like 2002.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 04:30:15 PM
Primary battle!

Royal vs. Fabius vs. DSK vs. Hollande vs. Lang vs. Jospin

and

Sarkozy vs. Chirac (me)

After January prims.

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Dem

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Rep. I have no clue what happened. Chirac was down in all states by double digits, then I got Dupont-Aignan's endorsement (the annoying kid from Essonne, you know), came ahead in Maine, then, bum, landslide in Iowa and then landslide all states, even if I was down there.

After Feb.

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Dem. DSK withdraws after Potomac primaries (loses MD, his 'home-state' here). Hollande and Jospin drop out and endorse Fabius after WI. Now, Fabius has 1542 delegates, Royal has 1153, and Lang has 70. Then Lang drops out for Fabius.

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Rep. I secure the nomination for Chirac. I think there is a hack in this part of the game somewhere.

Final

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Dem. Fabius is basically the nominee, but Royal wins a good number of primaries. Then she drops out.

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Rep. Sarkozy stages a huge upset in PA and then polls ahead in all other primaries.

Chirac 1941 vs. Sarkozy 394


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 02, 2008, 04:31:38 PM
Then what?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 04:37:28 PM

I just finished the primaries. Give me some time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 02, 2008, 04:39:37 PM
Current map?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 04:44:32 PM

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 02, 2008, 04:50:23 PM
Have fun with that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 04:57:02 PM
New week- Chirac attack ads on Fabius, Le Pen boost to 7% nationally

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 02, 2008, 06:44:51 PM

     It almost makes 2002 look competitive by comparison.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:04:10 PM
New map - Le Pen surges to 15.6% and has Big 'Mo

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:09:35 PM
New map - All candidates suffer, but Le Pen drops to 13.1%. My hard hitting ads on him helped.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:17:34 PM
New map - Bad week for Chirac- tired, loses debate to Fabius

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Fabius is now the man to destroy (I've got two scandals waiting).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:24:57 PM
New map- Chirac rebounding a bit. Le Pen down to 10%, Bayrou up to 4%. I think the ads on Le Pen destroyed him.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:29:59 PM
New map - Bayrou up to 6%, seems to hurt Fabius more than me.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:34:13 PM
Update - Bayrou up to 10%, Le Pen at 8%, Chirac ahead of Fabius

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:40:56 PM
Update- This game is weird. Bayrou and Le Pen are now tied with 11-10% each about.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 07:45:36 PM
Last poll

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 02, 2008, 08:02:02 PM
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Chirac/Fillon (R) 46,088,445 39.4% (327EV)
Fabius/Royal (D) 39,119,624 33.5% (211EV)
Bayrou/Morin (Centrist) 16,138,746 13.8%
Le Pen/Le Pen (C) 15,509,573 13.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 02, 2008, 11:46:01 PM
Massachusetts?

Second round time. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 03, 2008, 01:02:21 AM
That looks like a really cool scenario Hashemite. If you have enough time you should make a France 1995 scenario for the US Presidential Election of 1996 (I believe there is a scenario for it, not sure where exactly on the 80soft forum it is though). Is there a chance that you might be able to send it to me and to the others that own President Forever + Primaries? I know I would ;).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on September 03, 2008, 08:32:00 PM
I have a question. With a French what-if, how would it work? A candidate needs to get an absolute majority of both the Electoral Votes and popular vote in the first round, or else the candidate with the most popular votes and Electoral Votes in the second round wins, for example?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 04, 2008, 07:06:09 AM
I have a question. With a French what-if, how would it work? A candidate needs to get an absolute majority of both the Electoral Votes and popular vote in the first round, or else the candidate with the most popular votes and Electoral Votes in the second round wins, for example?

Not at all. My scenario just uses French candidates in an American electoral system.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 04, 2008, 10:19:30 PM
     I got PF back on my computer! In celebration, I ran through 1992 as Bush, running the most phenomenally negative campaign the world had ever seen. As an ultimate act of humiliation, I won Arkansas & Tennessee.

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Bush/Quayle, 42%, 385 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 36%, 142 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 20%, 11 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 1%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 05, 2008, 02:49:10 AM
     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.

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Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on September 05, 2008, 03:42:47 PM
     I got PF back on my computer! In celebration, I ran through 1992 as Bush, running the most phenomenally negative campaign the world had ever seen. As an ultimate act of humiliation, I won Arkansas & Tennessee.

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Bush/Quayle, 42%, 385 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 36%, 142 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 20%, 11 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 1%, 0 EVs

How did Perot win WA out of all places?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 05, 2008, 09:27:03 PM
     I got PF back on my computer! In celebration, I ran through 1992 as Bush, running the most phenomenally negative campaign the world had ever seen. As an ultimate act of humiliation, I won Arkansas & Tennessee.

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Bush/Quayle, 42%, 385 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 36%, 142 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 20%, 11 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 1%, 0 EVs

How did Perot win WA out of all places?

     I aggressively attacked Clinton in every close state. There were a bunch of states where he placed third behind Bush & Perot. The final result in Washington was something like:

Perot: 35%
Bush: 33%
Clinton: 32%

     It's also worth noting that Kansas was a swing state between Perot & Bush for the entire last month. I stopped campaigning there because I thought it would be interesting to have Perot win at least one state. The final result there was:

Bush: 36%
Perot: 35%
Clinton: 28%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 05, 2008, 11:35:28 PM
     I decided to go ahead & try one of the most impossible elections: 1920. I ran admirably, but it took me about four weeks to research one scandal (WTF?), destroying my chances at winning. I ended up losing narrowly while winning the popular vote.

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Harding/Coolidge, 41%, 295 EVs
Cox/Roosevelt, 46%, 236 EVs
Debs/Seidel, 7%, 0 EVs
Christensen/????, 3%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 01:43:06 AM
     I decided to take a break from running impossible races & ran in 2004 as an independent candidate I created. ;)

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Djibril/Eiliger, 35%, 265 EVs
Bush/Cheney, 31%, 146 EVs
Kerry/Edwards, 32%, 127 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna, 0%, 0 EVs

     Congress elected Bush president. Makes sense. After all, why would they elect the guy who came within spitting distance of the White House? ::)

     Anyway, the map isn't a joke; almost every state was decided by a razor-thin margin. California was decided by under 7,000 votes (!!!).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Beet on September 06, 2008, 01:45:34 AM
     I decided to take a break from running impossible races & ran in 2004 as an independent candidate I created. ;)

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Djibril/Eiliger, 35%, 265 EVs
Bush/Cheney, 31%, 146 EVs
Kerry/Edwards, 32%, 127 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna, 0%, 0 EVs

     Congress elected Bush president. Makes sense. After all, why would they elect the guy who came within spitting distance of the White House? ::)

     Anyway, the map isn't a joke; almost every state was decided by a razor-thin margin. California was decided by under 7,000 votes (!!!).

What were the characteristics and strategy of your candidate?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 01:53:49 AM
     I decided to take a break from running impossible races & ran in 2004 as an independent candidate I created. ;)

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Djibril/Eiliger, 35%, 265 EVs
Bush/Cheney, 31%, 146 EVs
Kerry/Edwards, 32%, 127 EVs
Badnarik/Campagna, 0%, 0 EVs

     Congress elected Bush president. Makes sense. After all, why would they elect the guy who came within spitting distance of the White House? ::)

     Anyway, the map isn't a joke; almost every state was decided by a razor-thin margin. California was decided by under 7,000 votes (!!!).

What were the characteristics and strategy of your candidate?

     I gave him my own positions. I was lazy :P & wanted to see an interesting race, so I gave him 4 & 5 in every stat, along with $2 billion to blanket the nation with ads (I could've waited until the end to completely saturate the nation, though I don't do that because I don't find it to be a fun way to play). :P Also, I cycled between ads promoting myself, attacking Bush, & attacking Kerry. Used extra CP to get endorsements & then recruit foot soldiers. Basically my typical PF strategy (well, except saturating the nation with ads, of course).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 06, 2008, 06:45:55 AM
but it took me about four weeks to research one scandal (WTF?),

That's nothing. It took me the whole election once to research a scandal on Fabius in my French scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2008, 11:31:42 AM
     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.

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Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Erc on September 06, 2008, 12:09:32 PM
     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.

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Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 06, 2008, 12:11:35 PM
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Roosevelt: 64% PV, 531 EV
Dewey: 36% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 06, 2008, 12:54:53 PM
Why the need to post a million 538-EV sweep maps?

Unless you win 99% of the vote at the same time, like Sarkozy :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: War on Want on September 06, 2008, 03:06:52 PM
Can someone please send me the original PFE?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 03:41:57 PM
     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.

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Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. :)

     I looked in the electoraltrends.p4e file after the election. Fremont was given a base of 30% there; low, but much higher than any other state in the South. I changed it to the more reasonable value of 0.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2008, 04:18:29 PM
     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.

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Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. :)

     I looked in the electoraltrends.p4e file after the election. Fremont was given a base of 30% there; low, but much higher than any other state in the South. I changed it to the more reasonable value of 0.

Much better. But since it's the legislature, also give Buchanan 100.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 04:30:00 PM
     I decided to try another hard race, coming off of my landslide victory in 1992.

     I ran as Fremont in 1856. All three candidates were repeatedly rocked with scandals, making for an exciting race. As it came down to the wire, the 149 electoral votes needed to secure a majority repeatedly eluded the brave General Fremont.

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Fremont/Dayton, 34%, 140 EVs
Buchanan/Breckinridge, 37%, 100 EVs
Fillmore/Donelson, 28%, 56 EVs

     Congress elected John C. Fremont the 15th President of the United States! Also note that Fillmore lost the only state he actually won in real life.

What's up with SC? The legislature would never elect a free-soiler.

If there are only a couple hundred legislators in the state, that means fewer people you need to bribe to win. :)

     I looked in the electoraltrends.p4e file after the election. Fremont was given a base of 30% there; low, but much higher than any other state in the South. I changed it to the more reasonable value of 0.

Much better. But since it's the legislature, also give Buchanan 100.

     Done. Anyway, does anyone have an election that they want me to run?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 06, 2008, 04:34:32 PM
What elections do you have?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 04:49:50 PM

     Just the default ones + 1856 + 1920. That's not an issue though, since I can easily download more.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2008, 05:22:13 PM
1912.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 06, 2008, 07:19:02 PM
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Bryan: 65% PV, 412 EV
McKinley: 35% PV, 35 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2008, 07:19:40 PM
Why the need to post a million 538-EV sweep maps?

Unless you win 99% of the vote at the same time, like Sarkozy :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 08:27:03 PM
     Here's 1912. I would have won much more decisively, except I was hammered by a significant scandal later on in the race. I ended up recovering after an even bigger scandal hit Wilson. Another issue of note: the tossups were evenly split. There were six going into election day. I won two (OR, WA), Wilson won two (AZ, NH), & Taft won two (DE, OK).

     Anyway, I used orange for Debs's results, to make them more readable.

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Roosevelt/Johnson, 37%, 359 EVs
Wilson/Marshall, 24%, 151 EVs
Taft/Butler, 22%, 21 EVs
Debs/Seidel, 15%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2008, 08:28:30 PM
1860 as Bell.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 08:42:47 PM

     I'm pretty sure that's impossible unless Lincoln & Douglas implode/are just not included. I'll try it tonight or tomorrow though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2008, 08:46:36 PM

     I'm pretty sure that's impossible unless Lincoln & Douglas implode/are just not included. I'll try it tonight or tomorrow though.

Make sure you fix SC, though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 10:41:27 PM
     I ran 1860 as Bell. I ended up doing very well. I could have done better, except Bell only had 4 CP per turn! What a ripoff . . . .

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Lincoln/Hamlin, 30%, 154 EVs
Bell/Everett, 22%, 92 EVs
Breckinridge/Lane, 24%, 31 EVs
Douglas/Johnson, 22%, 26 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 06, 2008, 11:09:10 PM
1968 as Wallace.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 06, 2008, 11:30:05 PM
     I've done that in the past. As I recall, I won the entire South + Indiana. I'll try it again sometime.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 07, 2008, 04:40:02 AM
     Did 1968 as Wallace. I had a hard time gaining traction. Once I did though, the states went like ducks in a row. I won every state I seriously campaigned in except TX & WV. Also, I have no explanation for MT or UT.

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Humphrey/Muskie, 38%, 252 EVs
Nixon/Agnew, 38%, 163 EVs
Wallace/Lemay, 22%, 124 EVs
Decker/Munn, 0%, 0 EVs

     Unsurprisingly, Congress elected Humphrey president. For the record, Nixon won the PV by about 400,000 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 07, 2008, 06:40:29 PM
     PBrunsel would be proud. Hoover starts out very weakly in this scenario, but ads are cheap, so it doesn't matter much. I also got about five scandals on Roosevelt, including two right before election day.

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Hoover/Curtis, 52%, 434 EVs
Roosevelt/Garner, 38%, 98 EVs
Thomas/Maurer, 6%, 0 EVs
Foster/????, 2%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 07, 2008, 06:41:59 PM
1936!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 07, 2008, 06:53:57 PM
     They don't have a scenario for 1936 on their site. If anybody has made one, could they please send it to me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 07, 2008, 06:56:39 PM
CPUSA @ 2%. Good days. ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Harry Hayfield on September 08, 2008, 05:14:24 PM
General Election 1992 playing as Perot

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Bush 266
Clinton 169
Perot 103

No majority : Election goes to House. House votes Bush to win.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 09, 2008, 03:18:10 AM
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Stephanie Perry/Rodney Benjamin (R): 307 EV, 53% of the PV (66,373,857)
Mary Moore/Brian Phillips (D): 231 EV, 46% of the PV (57,904,288)

I ran as the maverack Governor from Washington state Republican Stephanie Perry. I didn't run any advertisements, as always, and by Election Day I found myself in a dead heat with the Senator from Oregon Mary Moore. Then it happened. I won the Presidency of the United States and somehow managed to win in a vast majority of states with sixty or more percent. President Forever is sure one weird game. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 10, 2008, 03:22:17 PM
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Wilson: 66% PV, 531 EV
Hughes: 34% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on September 10, 2008, 05:09:53 PM

Why do you even play this game? 90% of your maps are clean sweeps.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 10, 2008, 05:17:00 PM

Why do you even play this game? 90% of your maps are clean sweeps.

Because I only post the clean sweeps and extremely close elections.  I have plenty of other results, I just don't post them.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 10, 2008, 05:33:30 PM
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Bryan: 55% PV, 350 EV
Taft: 45% PV, 133 EV

New Hampshire was decided by 91 votes; Wyoming was decided by 8 votes (7,929-7,921).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 10, 2008, 07:16:52 PM
Why the need to post a million 538-EV sweep maps?

I'm sure we get your point by now.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 11, 2008, 02:03:52 AM
     I ran 1876 as Hayes. Faced a bunch of scandals early on, but I recovered & rocked Tilden with several scandals on the home stretch. I managed to win TN, VA, & WV, but lose SC.

     Another thing is that it was not a close election. There were a few battlegrounds decided by 1-2%, but aside from them, almost nothing was within 10%.

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Hayes/Wheeler, 52%, 215 EVs
Tilden/Hendricks, 44%, 154 EVs
Cooper/Cary, 3%, 0 EVs
Smith/Stewart, 0%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 11, 2008, 03:56:07 PM
Ran as Cox in 1920, and nearly won, thanks to 2 major scandals on Harding right at the end:
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Harding: 53% PV, 296 EV
Cox: 47% PV, 235 EV

Closest state was New Hampshire, decided by 922 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 12, 2008, 02:23:14 AM
     I played 1960 as Nixon. He starts out very strongly in this scenario, but even taking that into account, I greatly overperformed. I even won Kennedy's home state of Massachusetts!

     As a side note, I won Connecticut by just 326 votes!

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Nixon/Lodge, 55%, 479 EVs
Kennedy/Johnson, 41%, 58 EVs
Decker/Munn, 1%, 0 EVs
Faubus/Crommelin, 1%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 12, 2008, 06:55:49 AM
KY and AK? Lolz.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 12, 2008, 02:41:22 PM

Indeed.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 12, 2008, 05:28:12 PM
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Nixon: 54% PV, 423 EV
Kennedy: 46% PV, 114 EV

Closest state was Nevada, decided by 742 votes; Hawaii was decided by 926 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on September 12, 2008, 07:23:25 PM
I ran as Perot.

 () (http://imageshack.us) () (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=527&i=generalelectionyx0.png) 
Final PV tally was something like 38-31-31 Bush-Clinton-Perot.  I'm not sure why that happened, though... polls suggested 33-27-28 and nationwide momentum was (-9.2)-(-3.5)-(+5).  Went to the House where they elected Bush.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 12, 2008, 11:36:22 PM
WTF?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 13, 2008, 03:53:39 AM
     Ran in 1996 as Dole. Towards the end, I was hit by one medium-sized scandal & Clinton was hit by two smaller ones. I decided to put all my energy into spinning both Clinton scandals. Ended up working well to my favor.

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Dole/Kemp, 46%, 300 EVs
Clinton/Gore, 40%, 238 EVs
Perot/Stockdale, 11%, 0 EVs
Browne/Olivier, 2%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 13, 2008, 11:16:03 AM
I did nothing but spacebar until 3 days before the election, when I aired 4 negatives ads in all 51 states:
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Golwater: 53% PV, 379 EV
Johnson: 47% PV, 159 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 13, 2008, 02:52:40 PM
     Of course, that's because ads are overpowered. When I ran as Hoover, I began in the weakest possible position. However, ads were cheap enough that I could run them in 15-20 states per day, so I won anyway.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 14, 2008, 05:24:08 AM
     I ran in 1964 as Goldwater. Umm, it wasn't a very difficult scenario. Some interesting things happened along the way, but ads were way too powerful.

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Goldwater/Miller, 57%, 472 EVs
Johnson/Humphrey, 41%, 66 EVs
DeBerry/Shaw, 0%, 0 EVs
Hass/Blomen, 0%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 14, 2008, 06:48:08 AM
When you hack ads in the Canadian version, you automatically win in a landslide. I won a majority government as the Green Party just by hacking the ad codes.

I haven't noticed the same thing in the P4E. The election isn't a landslide.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 14, 2008, 10:57:11 AM
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Carter: 75% PV, 538 EV
Reagan: 25% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 14, 2008, 11:35:28 AM


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 14, 2008, 01:40:39 PM
When you hack ads in the Canadian version, you automatically win in a landslide. I won a majority government as the Green Party just by hacking the ad codes.

I haven't noticed the same thing in the P4E. The election isn't a landslide.

     Ads are usually much less powerful than they are in this scenario. I might try the flip side & run as Johnson. Maybe I could even win MS.

     I should mention that there were 5-6 states that were decided by 5 points or less in my favor, so a late scandal would've significantly cut into my margin of victory.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 14, 2008, 06:34:15 PM
     Decided to try 1964 again, only as Johnson this time. Landslide doesn't even begin to describe this result. Johnson broke 80% in many states, got close in many more states, & even broke 90% in RI. MS was decided by 6,000 votes. The next closest state, AL, was won 56-35.

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Johnson/Humphrey, 75%, 538 EVs
Goldwater/Miller, 22%, 0 EVs
Hass/Blomen, 1%, 0 EVs
DeBerry/Shaw, 0%, 0 EVs



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 15, 2008, 12:05:49 AM
75%?

:o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 15, 2008, 07:52:03 AM
I managed to beat Reagan as Carter - with Anderson.

I started off being thumped.

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Carter - 44% - 273 EV
Reagan - 43% - 265 EV
Anderson - 13% - 0EV

Best result (besides DC)
Carter GA - 58%
Reagan UT - 71%
Anderson NY - 33%

Closest state - PA
Carter won by 954 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 17, 2008, 06:23:51 AM
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Polnut/Sebellius - 307EV - 50.7%
McCain/Palin - 231EV - 47.3%
Others -  2%%

I ended losing VT! but won FL, IN, OH!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 17, 2008, 06:55:24 AM
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Polnut/Sebellius - 307EV - 50.7%
McCain/Palin - 231EV - 47.3%
Others -  2%%

I ended losing VT! but won FL, IN, OH!!!


     Guess they were the only state to realize that you were Australian & couldn't become president. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 17, 2008, 07:26:44 AM
Well it's an imaginary world where the US Constitution is fair on that front.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 17, 2008, 08:08:47 AM
     Well, nobody told Vermont. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on September 17, 2008, 08:12:12 AM
Fred Thompson/Condelezza Rice-330
Joe Biden/Russ Feingold-208(ME)


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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 17, 2008, 10:46:36 AM
You lost DE?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on September 17, 2008, 12:07:34 PM

Yea it was weird as sh**t.  This game is alot more diffucult than I expected.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 17, 2008, 04:07:54 PM
This game is alot more diffucult than I expected.

Yes, it's quite difficult sometimes.

And very weird. I lost 310-228 in the EV, but won 51.7-48.3 in the PV playing as Jean Royer.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on September 17, 2008, 09:42:26 PM
Fred Thompson/Condelezza Rice-330
Joe Biden/Russ Feingold-208(ME)


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OK, weird?! You lost Delaware and Wisconsin and somehow beat Thompson in Tennessee?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on September 17, 2008, 09:47:22 PM
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Polnut/Sebellius - 307EV - 50.7%
McCain/Palin - 231EV - 47.3%
Others -  2%%

I ended losing VT! but won FL, IN, OH!!!


     How on earth did you lose Maryland?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on September 18, 2008, 08:49:11 AM
Fred Thompson/Condelezza Rice-330
Joe Biden/Russ Feingold-208(ME)


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OK, weird?! You lost Delaware and Wisconsin and somehow beat Thompson in Tennessee?

Yea plus Texas


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 18, 2008, 10:12:20 PM
     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

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Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on September 18, 2008, 11:01:35 PM
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Polnut/Sebellius - 307EV - 50.7%
McCain/Palin - 231EV - 47.3%
Others -  2%%

I ended losing VT! but won FL, IN, OH!!!


     You lost MD? How?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 19, 2008, 06:55:57 AM
     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

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Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs


How do you get old scenarios for PF+P? I don't see them on their downloads page.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 19, 2008, 11:50:30 AM
The Democratic Primary - well it was interesting - firstly Biden won Iowa and Dodd won NH.

But they didn't last long. While I got a close - I didn't win anything until ST, but when it came down to me v Clinton v Obama  I started to surge.

Ironically what did me in.... Obama endorsed Clinton.

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Delegates
Clinton - 2221
Me - 1615

I became her running-mate.

Well the GE was.... interesting. We clobbered Giuliani on his experience.

I definited closed in on him but we didn't quite expect this - I think my 50-state leadership ad 3 days out made a BIG difference.

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Clinton/Polnut - 534 EV 74,310,066 - 58.5%
Giuliani/Owens - 4EV 52,644,232 - 41.5%

....wow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 19, 2008, 04:41:59 PM
     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

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Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs


How do you get old scenarios for PF+P? I don't see them on their downloads page.

     Old scenarios are available here (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/index.htm).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 19, 2008, 04:58:12 PM
I hit the spacebar button until 3 days left in the campaign, when I ran 4 negative ads against McKinley in every state I was trailing in.
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Bryan: 70% PV, 447 EV
McKinley: 30% PV, 0 EV

Closest state was Delaware, decided by 1,683 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 19, 2008, 05:21:27 PM
     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

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Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs


How do you get old scenarios for PF+P? I don't see them on their downloads page.

     Old scenarios are available here (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/index.htm).

I tried does on PF+P, but they don't work. They're PF scenarios only IIRC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 19, 2008, 05:27:43 PM
     I got PF+P back on the computer. After playing it & remembering that it is unplayably glitchy, I did 1896 as McKinley in the old version. It was really easy to hammer Bryan on the Gold Standard, which helped a lot.

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Mckinley/Hobart, 54%, 354 EVs
Bryan/Sewall, 39%, 93 EVs
Palmer/Buckner, 3%, 0 EVs
Levering/Johnson, 2%, 0 EVs


How do you get old scenarios for PF+P? I don't see them on their downloads page.

     Old scenarios are available here (http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/scenarios/index.htm).

I tried does on PF+P, but they don't work. They're PF scenarios only IIRC.

     Naturally. I find it impossible to play PF+P. The game is much, much too glitchy. What happened was I was playing in 2004 as Bush. I had no primary opponent, so I just ran ads promoting myself, & slowly overtook all of the states. Eventually, Nader entered the lead in IL & WV, Badnarik in NJ, & Peroutka in PA. Strange enough yet? Well, I entered the lead in DC at this point, so the Democrat had no EVs. All of a sudden, Edwards got almost 90% in the NC primary, & the generic Democrat jumped into the lead in general election polls there. So I offered all of my PIPs to Edwards to get him to drop out & endorse me. After that happened, the game crashed due to momentum overflow. This was mid-March in the campaign, so I lost a lot of time spent on that scenario. >:(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 19, 2008, 05:28:52 PM
I only have PF+P, sadly.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 20, 2008, 05:54:29 PM
     I reloaded from an earlier save & played PF+P through to the end. It's really a joke if you have no primary opponent.

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Bush/Cheney, 81.5%, 538 EVs
Kerry/Biden, 14.1%, 0 EVs
Nader/Camejo, 1.5%, 0 EVs
Badnarik/Brown, 1.4%, 0 EVs
Peroutka/Baldwin, 1.4% 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 21, 2008, 03:44:14 PM
     I guess no one wants to comment on my overwhelming margin of victory. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 21, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
I've got one better than PiT's:
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Powell/Lieberman: 84.4% PV, 538 EV
Edwards/Graham: 10.9% PV, 0 EV
Nader/Camejo: 2.5% PV, 0 EV
Badnarik/Brown: 1.8% PV, 0 EV
Peroutka/Baldwin: 0.4% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 21, 2008, 04:10:07 PM
French scenario:

Republican primaries as Goulard

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Goulard in green, Dupont-Aignan in blue, and Alliot-Marie in red.



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Goulard/Fillon (R): 41,060,290 (34.8%) 195EV
Bayrou/de Sarnez (IC): 36,369,300 (30.8%) 246EV
Royal/Fabius (D): 35,736,623 (30.3%) 97EV
Le Pen/Le Pen (Con): 4,899,555 (4.1%) 0EV

Wow. The House elected Royal.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 21, 2008, 05:23:50 PM
Le Pen/Le Pen?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 21, 2008, 06:04:57 PM

His daughter.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 21, 2008, 09:52:08 PM
     Ran in 1916 as Hughes. Not a whole lot to say, though both third-party candidates started out with ~15% in WY for some reason. I also lost MN, despite Hughes winning it in real life.

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Hughes/Butler, 50%, 387 EVs
Wilson/Marshall, 43%, 144 EVs
Benson/Kirkpatrick, 4%, 0 EVs
Hanly/Seidel, 1%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on September 22, 2008, 09:54:46 AM
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Biden/Gore:196
Bush/Haig:342

I was doing excellent until the last week when I got hit with a level 9 scandal.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 23, 2008, 02:57:59 AM
2006 Presidential Election

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Don Butler/Jeff Haffley (R): 249 EV, 35% of the PV (44,585,206)
Seth Gillette/Jim Jerich (I): 179 EV, 31% of the PV (38,579,869)
Ricky Rafferty/Andrea Wyatt (D): 99 EV, 32% of the PV (40,781,233)

In the 2006 West Wing scenario I ran as North Dakota Senator Seth Gillette, a liberal third party candidate. My opponents were the extremely conservative Reverend Don Butler of Virginia and the extremely liberal Senator Ricky Rafferty of Vermont. The 2006 Presidential Election similar to my past games played both in President and Prime Minister Forever was a rollercoster of an election. For the most part of the election Reverend Butler led for most of the campaign, until a series of negative advertisements released by the Gillette campaign propelled Senator Rafferty into the lead. Yet Senator Rafferty's lead disappeared when I did the same to her campaign, by releasing a series of negative advertisements in crucial Democratic states I was targetting. By Election Day, polls indicated that Butler had a narrow lead over Rafferty 37 percent to 33 percent, with Gillette coming in a distant third with 27 percent. By Election Night I had managed to receive more than 38 million votes and 179 Electoral College votes, and in the process caused the election to head to the House. As the Republicans controlled the House, the extremely conservative Reverend Don Butler succeeded Josiah Bartlet in the White House.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 23, 2008, 07:55:42 PM
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Sarkozy/Fillon (R): 82,257,402 (70.1%) 535EVs
Royal/Montebourg (D): 35,103,021 (29.9%) 3EVs

OK, I knew I was going to win big (up about 43-30 before Election Day), but never this huge of a margin. Royal had a large lead in MA, VT, RI, and we were tied in NY, CA, and other smaller states.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 23, 2008, 08:09:12 PM
Played on sidelines to see the result of a FDR vs. Lincoln vs. Washington vs. Jefferson vs. Tyler battle.

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Lincoln/Nixon (R): 41,656,645 (25.8%) 242EVs
Roosevelt/Johnson (D): 41,305,691 (25.6%) 240EVs
Washington/Adams (F): 39,806,564 (24.6%) 56EVs
Jefferson/Calhoun (DR): 19,474,615 (12%) 0EVs
Tyler/Harrison (W): 19,387,387 (12%) 0EVs

lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 24, 2008, 03:15:25 PM
House?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 24, 2008, 04:48:53 PM

FDR


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 25, 2008, 12:19:06 AM

Good.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 25, 2008, 04:01:05 AM
     Ran as Bush in 1988. I started out neck and neck with Dukakis. However, I ran a bunch of negative ads, & won easily. Dukakis won AL by 443 votes though. :(

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Bush/Quayle, 61%, 526 EVs
Dukakis/Bentsen, 35%, 12 EVs
Duke/Parker, 2%, 0 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 0%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 25, 2008, 06:47:56 AM
lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on September 25, 2008, 07:54:27 PM
This is for 1992, my first big win.  Yay me!
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Cuomo/Richards-524
Bush/Quayle-14


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 26, 2008, 02:34:22 AM
     Decided to run in 1860 in a one-on-one match between Lincoln & Breckinridge. PA gave me a hard time for whatever reason, but eh. Unsurprisingly, the large majority of states were landslides.

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Lincoln/Hamlin, 66%, 195 EVs
Breckinridge/Lane, 33%, 108 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 26, 2008, 05:50:31 AM
     Ran as Bush in 1988. I started out neck and neck with Dukakis. However, I ran a bunch of negative ads, & won easily. Dukakis won AL by 443 votes though. :(

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Bush/Quayle, 61%, 526 EVs
Dukakis/Bentsen, 35%, 12 EVs
Duke/Parker, 2%, 0 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 0%, 0 EVs

Silly President Forever. The question I want to know is how did Governor Dukakis manage to win Alabama? Did Governor Dukakis lead in Alabama for a vast majority of the campaign or did a large abundance of undecideds vote for Dukakis at the last moment? It happens too many times in the new version of President Forever.

On another matter has anyone purchased Canadian Prime Minister Forever 2008? I considered it, but I couldn't be bothered as Canadian Prime Minister Forever 2006 works perfectly and has no bugs! Anyhow, apparently according to members of the 80soft forum its really bad. And I mean really bad.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 26, 2008, 07:00:39 AM
I might later. But not now. The real election is depressing enough.

They need to do a France President Forever 2007 or 2002. Now, I'd buy that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 26, 2008, 09:03:57 AM
This was ODD... something trigged a massive turnout.

Tickets - Polnut/Obama - McCain/Palin

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Polnut/Obama - 317 EV 86,340,582 - 54.7%
McCain/Palin - 221 EV 69,786,535 - 44.2%
Barr/??? - 870,211 - 0.6%
Baldwin/Who cares - 942,426 - 0.6%

Total number of vote - 157,969,756 votes.... good lord.

Never mind the fact that I lost my home state - PA, as well as OR, NH and OH.... but won GA, AL, SC, MT and NC....as well as taking McCain's home state by 10%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on September 26, 2008, 09:20:21 AM
I dont get why, but every damn Republican can carry Arizona by a minimum of 10 points, but the moment that McCain has the nomination, he either loses it big, or wins it with like, 48 percent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 26, 2008, 12:22:41 PM
     Ran as Bush in 1988. I started out neck and neck with Dukakis. However, I ran a bunch of negative ads, & won easily. Dukakis won AL by 443 votes though. :(

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Bush/Quayle, 61%, 526 EVs
Dukakis/Bentsen, 35%, 12 EVs
Duke/Parker, 2%, 0 EVs
Marrou/Lord, 0%, 0 EVs

Silly President Forever. The question I want to know is how did Governor Dukakis manage to win Alabama? Did Governor Dukakis lead in Alabama for a vast majority of the campaign or did a large abundance of undecideds vote for Dukakis at the last moment? It happens too many times in the new version of President Forever.

     He surged ahead about halfway through the campaign, though AL was a tossup at the time the last poll was taken. When I ran as Nixon in 1960, KY did the same thing.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 27, 2008, 05:19:11 PM
     Ran in 2000 as McCain versus Gore. I broke a huge scandal on Gore later on in the campaign, which helped. Gore won California by 215,000 votes, which was very disappointing. :( Some states where the winner got >40% were actually not close at all. For example, Arkansas looked like:

McCain: 48%
Gore: 30%
Buchanan: 18%
Nader: 3%

     All in all, Nader & Buchanan performed freakishly well here.

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McCain/Powell, 55%, 478 EVs
Gore/Kerry, 36%, 60 EVs
Buchanan/Foster, 4%, 0 EVs
Nader/LaDuke, 3%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 27, 2008, 05:23:23 PM
All in all, Nader & Buchanan performed freakishly well here.

PF+P?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 27, 2008, 05:32:49 PM

     No, regular PF. If it were PF+P, they would probably have each won a couple of states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 28, 2008, 12:39:39 PM
Ran the New England Secession scenario as Dean, but with two changes:

  • Jacked up Dean's percentages throughout NE
  • Changed Michael Dukakis, the only VP choice, to Jack Reed

Huckabee had a pretty comfortable lead throughout the campaign, and Obama got hit with two Level 6 scandals (one from me and one from Huckabee) at the end of the campaign. But Obama somehow vastly overperformed.

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Huckabee/Rice: 63,858,622, 45.9%, 268 EV
Obama/Biden: 40,588,404, 43.5%, 248 EV
Dean/Reed: 14,810,441, 10.6%, 22 EV

I got second (!) in Alaska.

The Democratic House, of course, elected Obama.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 29, 2008, 12:07:54 AM
     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.

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Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 29, 2008, 08:37:07 PM
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Roosevelt: 531 EV, 77% PV
Hoover: 0 EV, 23% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on September 30, 2008, 09:00:41 AM
hey guise

turn dynamism off


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 30, 2008, 05:19:35 PM
     I always play with dynamism off. I actually might try turning it on sometime & watching the carnage. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 30, 2008, 05:22:13 PM

Don't get me wrong Ben, I think your a good kid and all but will you please stop posting one sideded results. Its alright to post such a result every now and then but not all the f**king time. I hope you consider to do so the next time :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 30, 2008, 06:03:58 PM

When will you stop posting these things?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 30, 2008, 06:17:17 PM

Now, I think.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on September 30, 2008, 06:53:52 PM
Good.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on September 30, 2008, 11:05:19 PM
     I decided to run an election with dynamism on. ;)

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Johnson/Humphrey, 81%, 538 EVs
Goldwater/Miller, 15%, 0 EVs
Hass/Blomen, 1%, 0 EVs
DeBerry/Shaw, 1%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 30, 2008, 11:42:49 PM
How'd you win AL? Johnson wasn't even on the ballot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on September 30, 2008, 11:46:59 PM
How'd you win AL? Johnson wasn't even on the ballot.

Its President Forever Xahar. Their results are not supposed to make sense. Or do they? (I would use that photo of Naso when he was five, but I always suffer a cold sensation upon using it, so I will restrain myself from using it this time).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 02, 2008, 05:45:40 AM
     Ran in 1952 as Adlai Stevenson. At one point, I had three scandals on Eisenhower at once. I ended up winning without too much difficulty. Maine was decided by 183 votes (!).

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Stevenson/Sparkman, 57%, 514 EVs
Eisenhower/Nixon, 39%, 17 EVs
Faubus/Crommelin, 2%, 0 EVs
Decker/Munn, 0%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 02, 2008, 07:13:48 PM
     I always play with dynamism off. I actually might try turning it on sometime & watching the carnage. ;)

Same here.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 03, 2008, 03:10:01 AM
     I always play with dynamism off. I actually might try turning it on sometime & watching the carnage. ;)

Same here.

     I think I might have to hold back to give the computer a chance. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 03, 2008, 03:20:51 PM
Tried with dynanism on:
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Roosevelt: 85% PV, 531 EV
Hoover: 15% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on October 03, 2008, 03:59:53 PM
Stop it, dammit.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 03, 2008, 06:19:13 PM
A wierd 1972 result:
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McGovern: 63% PV, 405 EV
Nixon: 37% PV, 133 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on October 03, 2008, 06:42:57 PM
wtf South Dakota wtf


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 03, 2008, 06:57:38 PM

I'm sure that's what the McGovern campaign was asking themselves when the results came in on Election Night 1972. Speaking of weird results for 1972 on President Forever, something similar occurred to me a while back. And I can show you too.

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Richard Nixon (R): 396 EV, 52% of the PV (52,935,207)
George McGovern (D): 142 EV, 45% of the PV (45,818,823)
John Hospers (L): 0 EV, 1% of the PV (1,356,238)

I ran as John Hospers, spacebared the entire campaign and didn't run any commercials and yet I still manage to win nearly 1.5 million votes in the 1972 Presidential Election. The funny thing about this election was that Nixon won the District of Columbia, defeating McGovern 57-40-2 and McGovern won Washington state with eighty-five percent of the vote. Talk about weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 03, 2008, 07:02:18 PM
     Are you playing PF+P? If so, that makes perfect sense.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 03, 2008, 07:04:17 PM
     Are you playing PF+P? If so, that makes perfect sense.

Those results, funnily enough occurred on the original President Forever. Yes you heard me correctly the original President Forever. I think the creator of the scenario stuffed up the percentages for Washington and the District of Columbia though, as at the start of the 1972 campaign Washington is safe McGovern and the District of Columbia is usually a tossup.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 03, 2008, 07:08:20 PM
     I once played a 1932 scenario where Alabama was lean Hoover. When I get home, I'll download the scenario and dig around through the guts of the data.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 03, 2008, 07:16:47 PM
     I once played a 1932 scenario where Alabama was lean Hoover. When I get home, I'll download the scenario and dig around through the guts of the data.

Something similar happened to me as well, though it wasn't 1932 but rather 1908 Taft vs. Bryan. I believe in that scenario Taft sweeped the South and Bryan took out most of New England. The funny thing as well was that people on the 80soft forum believed that it was a great scenario. Silly supposed political geeks that believe that every result in past Presidential Elections was similar to 2004.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 03, 2008, 07:20:58 PM
     I once played a 1932 scenario where Alabama was lean Hoover. When I get home, I'll download the scenario and dig around through the guts of the data.

Something similar happened to me as well, though it wasn't 1932 but rather 1908 Taft vs. Bryan. I believe in that scenario Taft sweeped the South and Bryan took out most of New England. The funny thing as well was that people on the 80soft forum believed that it was a great scenario. Silly supposed political geeks that believe that every result in past Presidential Elections was similar to 2004.

     One thing that annoys me is when the map at the beginning is the same as the election day one IRL. I find it hard to believe that Truman was leading by ~70 EVs in mid-September of 1948.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 04, 2008, 10:35:10 PM
     I checked out the scenario. Nixon leads 48-42 in WA & McGovern leads 77-12 in DC, according to the electorate_trends.p4e. Yet, they're somehow switched in the game. I guess you could just switch their values in the file so it works as it's supposed to.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Politico on October 05, 2008, 06:53:25 PM
Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 05, 2008, 07:02:29 PM
Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.

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Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Politico on October 05, 2008, 07:20:52 PM
Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.

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Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?

Maybe I am mixing this up with another game? I think the one I played was called President Forever 1988. Or maybe it was President Elect. Either way, I spent hours trying to beat Reagan in '84 and only came away with a handful of states no matter what I did.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 05, 2008, 07:35:50 PM
Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.

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Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?

Maybe I am mixing this up with another game? I think the one I played was called President Forever 1988. Or maybe it was President Elect. Either way, I spent hours trying to beat Reagan in '84 and only came away with a handful of states no matter what I did.

     Most likely. Even without the two scandals, I was still in a dead heat with him. Beating him is not easy by any means, but it's still very doable.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on October 05, 2008, 07:44:39 PM
Way back when, I remember playing this game and managing to beat Reagan with Ted Kennedy in 1980 with a 269-269 tie. Don't ask me how I did it, but it took many, many hours and re-matches to pull off. With that said, trust me when I say that Reagan is UNBEATABLE in 1984. There is absolutely no way to beat him.

     . . .

     Ran 1984 as Mondale. I hit Reagan with two huge scandals on the home stretch. New Mexico was decided by 717 votes. Kentucky was decided by 755 votes. Georgia was decided by 4,614 votes.

     To the dismay of Naso, Mondale broke 60% in Ohio.

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Mondale/Ferraro, 55%, 394 EVs
Reagan/Bush, 43%, 144 EVs
Bergland/Lewis, 0%, 0 EVs
LaRouche/Davis, 0%, 0 EVs


     You were saying?

Maybe I am mixing this up with another game? I think the one I played was called President Forever 1988. Or maybe it was President Elect. Either way, I spent hours trying to beat Reagan in '84 and only came away with a handful of states no matter what I did.

     Most likely. Even without the two scandals, I was still in a dead heat with him. Beating him is not easy by any means, but it's still very doable.

President Elect (http://www.the-underdogs.info/game.php?id=839)?

Now that I think about it, that was a really fun game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Politico on October 06, 2008, 02:56:55 AM
This is the one I am thinking of:

http://www.mobygames.com/game/president-elect-1988-edition

http://www.allgame.com/cg/agg.dll?p=agg&sql=1:31937


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 08, 2008, 10:42:55 AM
Cuba had similar politics to Florida at the start.

Why? Cuban expats aren't in any way representative of Cuba.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 10, 2008, 02:39:19 AM
     I ran as McGovern in 1972. Running four ads in every state at the end is officially the most overpowered tactic in all of President Forever. Missouri was decided by 1,205 votes. Colorado was won by 1,450 votes. Montana by 3,396 votes. Oregon was won by 5,204 votes.

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McGovern/Shriver, 55%, 478 EVs
Nixon/Agnew, 42%, 60 EVs
Hospers/Nathan, 1%, 0 EVs
Schmitz/Anderson, 1%, 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Smid on October 10, 2008, 06:28:35 AM
     I ran as McGovern in 1972. Running four ads in every state at the end is officially the most overpowered tactic in all of President Forever. Missouri was decided by 1,205 votes. Colorado was won by 1,450 votes. Montana by 3,396 votes. Oregon was won by 5,204 votes.

Indeed it is. I played as Obama the other day, had a really messy primary against Clinton and just scraped over the line. I was reduced to a handful of states in New England plus Illinois at the start of the GE, waited until the final week and did the four ads in each state and won convincingly.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on October 10, 2008, 06:48:35 AM
When the other party has no real primary, they always get a landslide map at the start of the GE.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Smid on October 10, 2008, 07:52:08 AM
When the other party has no real primary, they always get a landslide map at the start of the GE.

Yeah, I know, I was more agreeing with PiT's comment that ads are incredibly powerful in the game and that running a maximum number of hard-hitting ads right before the election often will dramatically swing the result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 10, 2008, 12:41:59 PM
When the other party has no real primary, they always get a landslide map at the start of the GE.

Yeah, I know, I was more agreeing with PiT's comment that ads are incredibly powerful in the game and that running a maximum number of hard-hitting ads right before the election often will dramatically swing the result.

     Indeed. Before I ran the ads, I was ahead by maybe ~50 EVs. Same thing has happened every other time I've tried it. I think I'll stop ad blitzing right before the election. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on October 10, 2008, 02:49:50 PM
This reminded me. I must get back to work on my scenario with Jean Royer.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 11, 2008, 06:36:33 PM
Ran as "me" in 2008, used funds to run ads in alot of the swing states and that payed off. I pulled out several scandals against Romney and mainly attacked Romney's experience and integrity. Nearly won IA, FL, WV, TN, KY, AR, GE, MS.

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(D) - Jackson/Obama: 316 EV 53% PV
(R) - Romney/McCain: 222 EV 45% PV



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 11, 2008, 06:41:13 PM
Andy, what was your platform?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 11, 2008, 06:49:35 PM
I majorly used Iran, Iraq, Health Care, Experience and Homeland Security.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 11, 2008, 06:55:21 PM
I majorly used Iran, Iraq, Health Care, Experience and Homeland Security.

Sorry, what were your views on each issue?  Your entire platform?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 11, 2008, 07:02:20 PM
I majorly used Iran, Iraq, Health Care, Experience and Homeland Security.

Sorry, what were your views on each issue?  Your entire platform?
Thats alright but in a nutshell I had about one third of Centrist, Right and Left but most left and right were center-right and center-left so mainly I ran as a centrist. If you want me to post some of my standings on certain issues feel free to ask.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 12, 2008, 01:54:31 AM
2008 Presidential Election

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Conor L. Flynn/Brian D. Schweitzer (D): 372 EV, 56.4% of the PV (72,720,670)
W. Mitt Romney/Michael D. Huckabee (R): 166 EV, 43.6% of the PV (56,299,623)

I inserted myself into the 2008 Enhanced Edition scenario and consequently ran as myself as Democratic Senator Conor Flynn of Maine. I will elaborate on both my bitter campaign against Senator Clinton, likewise with my bitter campaign against former Governor Romney at a later date. The 2008 Enhanced Edition can be found here (http://dl.filekicker.com/send/file/216374-0N78/UnitedStates-2008EnhancedEdition-Beta.zip). Much better than the original 80soft scenario. More realistic all around and added issues such as the Subprime Mortage Crisis, etc.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 12, 2008, 10:29:56 AM
Tried out Rocky's new scenario:
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Warner/Bayh: 58% PV, 476 EV
McCain/Palin: 42% PV, 62 EV

Closest state was South Dakota, decided by 2,059 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 12, 2008, 11:00:16 AM
HI? AK? WV? ???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 12, 2008, 11:17:06 AM

I have no idea.  I spent a couple turns in AK, but totally ignored HI and WV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 17, 2008, 02:23:20 PM
New 1960 scenario I created:

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Humphrey/Kennedy: 49.5% PV, 281 EV
Nixon/Rockefeller: 48.9% PV, 237 EV
Byrd/Thurmond: 1.6% PV, 19 EV

Closest state was Alaska, decided by 334 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 18, 2008, 12:01:59 PM
That map sucks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 18, 2008, 02:00:41 PM

What's your problem with it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 18, 2008, 02:14:38 PM

SC...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 18, 2008, 02:25:23 PM

The state barely went to Kennedy; you expect it to go to Humphrey?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 18, 2008, 02:31:35 PM

Then why does Humphrey win the rest of the South?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 18, 2008, 03:09:44 PM

He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on October 18, 2008, 06:17:04 PM
He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 18, 2008, 07:24:09 PM
He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 18, 2008, 08:02:35 PM
He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 18, 2008, 08:08:29 PM
He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.

I was thinking I'm put him everywhere Thurmond appeared on the ballot, with Thurmond's numbers, but make him a lot stronger in Virginia.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 18, 2008, 08:12:12 PM
He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.

I was thinking I'm put him everywhere Thurmond appeared on the ballot, with Thurmond's numbers, but make him a lot stronger in Virginia.

     Are you going to bother putting him on the ballot in CA & ND? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 18, 2008, 08:15:56 PM
He doesn't.  He loses VA, AL, and MS.  He barely won in TN, LA and AR, and it was very close in SC.

But still this is Hubert Humphrey we are talking about Ben. His stance on Civil Rights would have alienated potential supporters of his in the South, thus resulting in the South to overwhelmingly vote for Harry Byrd. That's what I think anyways.

In RL that'd be true, but not in P4E+P, where I gave Byrd the actual numbers from 1960; leaving him viable in only AL, MS, LA, and AR.  Maybe I'll boost his numbers somewhat in the South.

     I would. It's unrealistic that Byrd would do that badly in places like GA & NC with Humphrey as the nominee.

I was thinking I'm put him everywhere Thurmond appeared on the ballot, with Thurmond's numbers, but make him a lot stronger in Virginia.

     Are you going to bother putting him on the ballot in CA & ND? :P

No :P  Although I haven't decided on the percentages.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: exopolitician on October 21, 2008, 12:31:59 AM
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Saffle/Biden: 466
Huckabee/Pataki: 72



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: AndrewTX on October 22, 2008, 08:31:26 PM
Seriously, the new PE is really pissin me off. I've ran several scenarios, and the democrats win everytime. I actually had a campaign with Mike Huckabee running against Dennis Kucinich (I played as Dennis), and Kucinich won with nearly 6 percent, and landslided in the electoral.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 23, 2008, 07:06:05 AM
Seriously, the new PE is really pissin me off. I've ran several scenarios, and the democrats win everytime. I actually had a campaign with Mike Huckabee running against Dennis Kucinich (I played as Dennis), and Kucinich won with nearly 6 percent, and landslided in the electoral.

Nope I just lost as Hillary against Romney.

Not by much and I closed something scary in the last 2 weeks - but still lost.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 23, 2008, 07:06:18 PM
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Johnson/Humphrey: 50.9% PV, 276 EV
Rockefeller/Stratton: 49.1% PV, 261 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 01, 2008, 02:59:28 AM
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Polnut/Clinton - 400 EV 57.6%
Romney/Paul - 138 EV 42.4%

Yes, I broke 70% in Romney's home state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on November 02, 2008, 12:12:18 AM
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This is from a scenario that I created about that the Democratic Convention is bitter and leads to Hillary getting the nomination and Obama walking out and running under the "Reform Democratic" banner for president with Governor Easley of NC, also Obama is on the ballot on states he won during the primary season and ditto for Hillary. Played as Obama and used a media blitz to get many of the leaning or tossup states between Obama and McCain to go green and hit McCain with a few scandals. The Election results have no one getting a majority of the EV's and the House elects Hillary Clinton as the 44th President.

(R): John McCain/Mitt Romney: 201 EV 42% PV
(D): Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson: 183 EV 30% PV
(RD): Barack Obama/Mike Easley: 154 EV 26% PV
Other: 0 EV 2% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 13, 2008, 02:01:45 AM
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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Workers' Friend on November 13, 2008, 06:12:12 AM
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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

What year is that?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on November 13, 2008, 09:11:19 AM
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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

What year is that?

'76 i'm assuming


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on November 13, 2008, 11:01:38 AM
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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

     McCarthy did rather well there.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 13, 2008, 12:41:56 PM
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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

     McCarthy did rather well there.

He got 22% in Arizona of all places. Go figure.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 13, 2008, 04:17:06 PM
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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

     McCarthy did rather well there.

He got 22% in Arizona of all places. Go figure.

PF is weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Workers' Friend on November 13, 2008, 04:36:41 PM
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Ford           514  59.2%
Carter          25  37.9%
McCarthy       0    2.9%

     McCarthy did rather well there.

He got 22% in Arizona of all places. Go figure.

PF is weird.

Yeah, wonder if I should still get it. I have a few good scenario ideas, but I wonder how it'd end up.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on November 13, 2008, 04:43:50 PM
It's still fun.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Workers' Friend on November 13, 2008, 04:47:50 PM

Yeah, if I had it right now, I'd do 1964 with a Democratic Ronald Reagan that became CA Governor in 1954 versus an incumbent President Richard Nixon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on November 15, 2008, 07:14:46 PM
Lieberman/Nunn-375
Bush/Cheney-163

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 15, 2008, 07:19:14 PM

:)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on November 19, 2008, 06:14:29 PM
2004 Presidential Election

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Howard B. Dean III/Richard A. Gephardt (D): 377 EV, 53% of the PV (66,711,231)
George W. Bush/Richard B. Cheney (R): 161 EV, 46% of the PV (57,485,393)

Although this would happen to be one of my greatest victories I have ever experienced on President Forever, the Dean/Gephardt campaign, which I ran, was also one of the greatest comeback victories I have also experienced on the noted political simulation.

As per usual, I didn't begin to run any advertisements until the final week and a half of the 2004 campaign, where President Bush was leading comfortably over Governor Dean in both the electoral college and popular vote totals. During that final week of the campaign, I bombarded the electorate with ads praising my leadership during my twelve year tenure as Governor of Vermont, whilst running advertisements disregarding President Bush's leadership as President.

Come the final day of polling, the prediction map looked like the following as seen below, and projected that Howard Dean would defeat incumbent President George W. Bush to become 44th President of the United States with a minimum of 282 Electoral College votes. Alas the rest is history. Shame it never occurred though.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on November 20, 2008, 10:26:36 AM
Clark/Bayh:349
Bush/Cheney:189

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on November 20, 2008, 10:52:51 AM
Gore/Gephardt:380
Dole/Engler:158

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on November 20, 2008, 06:26:02 PM
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Lieberman/Bayh: 54.2% PV, 377 EV
Bush/Cheney: 45.8% PV, 161 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on November 23, 2008, 07:43:08 PM
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I felt like playing my French scenario as the crazy lady.

Royal/Bianco (D) 77,708,993 (66.2%) 538EV
Sarkozy/Fillon (R) 39,651,430 (33.8%) 0EV

The last map was:

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427-53-58


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 25, 2008, 11:48:18 PM
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Carter was pretty tough

Reagan 287 48%
Carter  251  46%
Anderson 0 6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on November 26, 2008, 01:32:37 AM
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Roosevelt 310 49.5%
Hoover     211 46.0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 04, 2008, 05:20:23 PM
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Warner/Bayh: 54.3% PV, 386 EV
Huckabee/Ridge: 45.7% PV, 152 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 07, 2008, 04:02:39 AM
2004 Presidential Election

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Colin L. Powell/Condoleezza Rice (R): 535 EV, 65% of the PV (81,315,174)
Joseph I. Lieberman/John F. Kerry (D): 3 EV, 34% of the PV (42,803,316)

From the beginning of the 2004 campaign until the conclusion of the 2004 campaign, the all black Republican ticket of Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice convincingly led Joe Lieberman and John Kerry in all of the public opinion polls. Despite numerous experts predicting that Lieberman would carry only the state of Illinois and the District of Columbia on Election Day, to the dismay of experts Senator Lieberman only carried DC. Alas, Secretary of State, Colin Luther Powell won the biggest landslide in unrecorded American History with sixty-five percent of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 09, 2008, 12:14:42 AM
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Barbour v. Obama v. Ventura in 2012. Say hello to President Haley Barbour! He almost pissed away a 10% lead and won by just 3%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 09, 2008, 02:06:24 AM
1968 Presidential Election

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Richard M. Nixon/Spiro T. Agnew (R): 209 EV, 35% of the PV (36,068,720)
Hubert H. Humphrey/Edmund S. Muskie (D): 198 EV, 37% of the PV (37,299,317)
George C. Wallace/Curtis E. LeMay (AI): 131 EV, 27% of the PV (27,210,445)

In my latest campaign I ran as Governor George Wallace in 1968. Keeping with tradition, I did not begin to run any advertisements until the last week of the campaign. Whilst it seemed my advertisements had no effect on the outcome of the election and that Richard Nixon would be narrowly elected 37th President of the United States, I was proven wrong. In typical President Forever fashion my vote drastically increased on Election Day from a measly 9% to 27% upon the final results. Considering the House was dominated by the Democratic Party, Vice President Hubert Humphrey was elected.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Nixon in '80 on December 09, 2008, 05:32:18 AM
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Ron Paul - 271 EV - 52.8%
Hillary Clinton - 267 EV - 47.2

This was an old one I had screencapped... I don't remember the VP's on either side... crazy, huh?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Nixon in '80 on December 09, 2008, 10:31:15 PM

I remember pouring all my resources into CA in the last week because I knew I was going to lose... and yet somehow, I won... PON RAUL 80!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 09, 2008, 11:32:35 PM

Whilst this is true, we must remember that this is President Forever we are talking about, and a vast majority of election victories, as seen throughout the 103 pages of this thread are quite implausible. For instant Ron Paul's victory over Hillary Clinton, and George Wallace breaking 70% in Lousiana and only 50% in Alabama.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Nixon in '80 on December 10, 2008, 12:07:36 AM
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Mark Warner/Hillary Clinton - 518 EV - 62.1%
Mitt Romney/Tom Tancredo - 20 EV - 37.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Smid on December 10, 2008, 09:48:24 AM
Just played through one as myself, set as a fairly inexperienced Republican from Vermont.

In the early campaign, Clinton was winning quite comfortably, only a handful of states were interested in voting for me - you know you're in trouble when you're losing Utah, SC, TN, KY and it's too close to call in OK.

After a tough fight, I managed to start level pegging with Clinton, and was neck-and-neck going into the final week. The states looked quite bizarre at that stage - I was ahead in California and behind in drawing even in much of the south and behind very strongly in South Carolina.

For the final week, I adopted Conor's Strategum of running ads in the final week (having saved my warchest in previous weeks). I ran three attack ads on Clinton's health care platform, while running a positive ad (ironically) on my integrity at the same time. The positive ad and one negative ad were run in all the states, and the other two negative ads were run in all states except for the ones I'd written off (Mass, Conn, Rhode Island, Maryland, Illinois, Arkansas, Colorado) and the states I was far enough ahead in (not many - Miss, Alabama, Texas, Nebraska, Kansas, Wyoming, Idaho).

The final poll, a couple of days before the election, looked like this (showing strong/lean/tossup) :

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I spent the final couple of days in New York and Vermont and my VP in Florida and New York. The election night result ended up being:

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Smid (R)             64,339,127   54.4%   455 EVs
Clinton (D)         51,285,665   43.4%     83 EVs
Badnarik (L)         2,012,238     1.7%       0 EVs
Peroutka (C)           668,437     0.6%       0 EVs

My most pleasing result was Vermont, where I received 58.7% of the vote (whereas I expected to lose the state). My strongest result was Wyoming, where I received 81.8%. Also surprising was Rhode Island, which I'd written off as being out of reach.

The nation was remarkably unpolarised - most states I won were in the 52% - 55% range, with only a small handful in the 55% - 58% range. A fairly consistent result across the nation.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 10, 2008, 06:22:54 PM
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Bryan: 67% PV, 421 EV
McKinley: 27% PV, 26 EV
Levering: 3% PV, 0 EV
Palmer: 3% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 10, 2008, 10:36:12 PM
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Bryan: 67% PV, 421 EV
McKinley: 27% PV, 26 EV
Levering: 3% PV, 0 EV
Palmer: 3% PV, 0 EV

I assume you used the infamous 'ad cheat' which is used by all who play President Forever, thus the large victory for Jennings Bryan in 1896? Anywho, Ben what was the margin in Kentucky? Although I'm not surprised that McKinley lost in a landslide, I'm surprised that of all states he carried Kentucky was one of them.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 10, 2008, 10:37:51 PM
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Bryan: 67% PV, 421 EV
McKinley: 27% PV, 26 EV
Levering: 3% PV, 0 EV
Palmer: 3% PV, 0 EV

I assume you used the infamous 'ad cheat' which is used by all who play President Forever, thus the large victory for Jennings Bryan in 1896? Anywho, Ben what was the margin in Kentucky? Although I'm not surprised that McKinley lost in a landslide, I'm surprised that of all states he carried Kentucky was one of them.

Kentucky was very close; 42.7-42.6.  It had been a toss-up going into election night, and I never went there.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 12, 2008, 04:27:56 PM
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Roosevelt: 197
Wilson: 181
Debs: 149
Taft: 4

The HoR elected Wilson.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 13, 2008, 04:07:24 AM
1856 Presidential Election

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John C. Frémont/William L. Dayton (R): 162 EV, 38% of the PV (5,287,100)
James Buchanan/John C. Breckinridge (D): 111 EV, 39% of the PV (5,345,676)
Millard Fillmore/Andrew Jackson Donelson (KN): 23 EV, 21% of the PV (2,981,658)

In my latest campaign I ran as Republican candidate John C. Frémont. Throughout the campaign I never expected Frémont to have a chance, yet on Election Day I found myself leading narrowly in the Electoral College, whilst trailing Secretary of State Buchanan by nearly eight points in the polls. Thus on Election Day John C. Frémont was elected 15th President of the United States, despite losing the popular vote to Buchanan. To the dismay of myself, Frémont's election as 15th President of the United States was surprisingly helped by the state of South Carolina, a state I never expected to carry running as an anti-Slavery Republican.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Holmes on December 13, 2008, 05:24:40 PM
Ooh... what a fun game. I don't have an results but I should have my game done sooner tonight.

The funniest thing ever was creating an Edwards scandal on intergrity...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 13, 2008, 07:58:11 PM
1856 Presidential Election

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John C. Frémont/William L. Dayton (R): 162 EV, 38% of the PV (5,287,100)
James Buchanan/John C. Breckinridge (D): 111 EV, 39% of the PV (5,345,676)
Millard Fillmore/Andrew Jackson Donelson (KN): 23 EV, 21% of the PV (2,981,658)

In my latest campaign I ran as Republican candidate John C. Frémont. Throughout the campaign I never expected Frémont to have a chance, yet on Election Day I found myself leading narrowly in the Electoral College, whilst trailing Secretary of State Buchanan by nearly eight points in the polls. Thus on Election Day John C. Frémont was elected 15th President of the United States, despite losing the popular vote to Buchanan. To the dismay of myself, Frémont's election as 15th President of the United States was surprisingly helped by the state of South Carolina, a state I never expected to carry running as an anti-Slavery Republican.

You'd best fix that. South Carolina didn't have elections back then.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on December 13, 2008, 08:43:47 PM
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Roosevelt: 197
Wilson: 181
Debs: 149
Taft: 4

The HoR elected Wilson.

Hmm... Debs did well here but why did he do so poor in the West and only one state which was Washington? Dynamism?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 13, 2008, 10:26:39 PM
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Coolidge: 39% PV, 292 EV
Davis: 36% PV, 194 EV
LaFollette: 18% PV, 45 EV
Debs: 5% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 16, 2008, 06:32:11 PM
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Beat FDR!!!

Hoover 339
FDR      188


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 16, 2008, 07:26:59 PM

     Congratulations. :) Did you do it with or without ad blitzing?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 16, 2008, 11:11:58 PM

     Congratulations. :) Did you do it with or without ad blitzing?


I raised money and put footsoldiers in the Northeast and California. By the last week, I had $2m in the bank and ran 2 attack ads and 1 positive ad and released 2 scandals on FDR. I was still behind come election day, but he had -9.6 momentum and I had +3. When I came out of the gate ahead in places like Virginia and Kentucky, I knew I would probably win the race.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 17, 2008, 09:41:55 PM
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Hoover: 57% PV, 393 EV
Roosevelt: 43% PV, 138 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 17, 2008, 11:55:29 PM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 18, 2008, 06:59:56 AM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 18, 2008, 05:16:06 PM
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Davis: 38% PV, 275 EV
Coolidge: 38% PV, 218 EV
LaFollette: 17% PV, 38 EV
Debs: 6% PV, 0 EV

Coolidge won the popular vote by 71,133 votes (29,939,505 - 29,868,372).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 21, 2008, 01:23:20 PM
Obama vs. Tancredo

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 22, 2008, 03:06:55 AM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on December 22, 2008, 02:40:53 PM

In a way you must be wondering how come you didn't win Iowa for Hoover, with such a big score. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on December 22, 2008, 05:17:38 PM
1880 Presidential Election

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Winfield S. Hancock/William H. English (D): 264 EV, 52% of the PV (5,415,632)
James A. Garfield/Chester A. Arthur (R): 105 EV, 44% of the PV (4,525,580)
James B. Weaver/Benjamin B. Chambers (G): 0 EV, 3% of the PV (333,754)

This time I ran as General Hancock in the 1880 Presidential Election against Representatives Garfield and Weaver. I used my traditional stategy (no need explaining it) and it propelled the inexperienced Hancock to become 20th President of the United States, despite polls indicating a Garfield victory.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 23, 2008, 06:36:01 PM

In a way you must be wondering how come you didn't win Iowa for Hoover, with such a big score. :P

     I managed to win IA back when I ran 1932. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 23, 2008, 06:42:40 PM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

For some reason I can't get it; can you e-mail it to me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 23, 2008, 09:26:41 PM
I've decided to go back and simulate every election since 1960, playing as the weakest candidate.

1960:
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Nixon: 49% PV, 275 EV
Kennedy: 47% PV, 262 EV
Faubus: 2% PV, 0 EV

1964:
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Johnson: 60% PV, 448 EV
Goldwater: 40% PV, 90 EV

1968:
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Humphrey: 45% PV, 338 EV
Nixon: 36% PV, 100 EV
Wallace: 17% PV, 100 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 24, 2008, 04:44:03 AM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 24, 2008, 11:33:43 AM
1972:
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McGovern: 51% PV, 328 EV
Nixon: 49% PV, 210 EV

1976:
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Carter: 51% PV, 291 EV
Ford: 49% PV, 247 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 24, 2008, 05:23:24 PM
1980:
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Reagan: 46% PV, 273 EV
Carter: 45% PV, 265 EV
Anderson: 9% PV, 0 EV

1984:
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Reagan: 56% PV, 462 EV
Mondale: 44% PV, 76 EV
Arkansas was decided by a margin of 223 votes.

1988:
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Dukakis: 52% PV, 321 EV
Bush: 48% PV, 217 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 24, 2008, 08:23:32 PM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 24, 2008, 08:33:32 PM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

     Perhaps they were actually different versions of the scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on December 24, 2008, 08:36:41 PM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

     Perhaps they were actually different versions of the scenario?

It could have been. I haven't downloaded any scenario on the original PF since 2004. But the south should not move on a good 1932 scenario, especially the deep south.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on December 24, 2008, 08:52:41 PM

Was this on the original PF for the one with the primaries? Texas was 80% and SC was 98% for Roosevelt on the PF+P which I played on.

Original.  I didn't know they had one for 1932; can you give a link?

It's in the forum on 80soft.com

The one for the original had Hoover and FSR tied when you first start off. In the PF+P game, FDR leads 46-28 nationally when you first start off. The south never moves as FDR still broke 90% in SC, TX, AZ, MS, and AL even though he lost the race. That's why I was so happy I came back and beat him.

     I remember that when I started off in the original, I was ahead in PA & VT & tied in a few other states. In total, there were maybe 10-12 states where FDR was leading by less than 10%.

When I started it, the two were tied at 44% or so. The south was way too close, because any Democrat would get 90% or so whatever the result was nationally in most states.

     Perhaps they were actually different versions of the scenario?

It could have been. I haven't downloaded any scenario on the original PF since 2004. But the south should not move on a good 1932 scenario, especially the deep south.

     When I ran in 1932, I won by 14%, but FDR still won most of the South rather decisively:

     PBrunsel would be proud. Hoover starts out very weakly in this scenario, but ads are cheap, so it doesn't matter much. I also got about five scandals on Roosevelt, including two right before election day.

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Hoover/Curtis, 52%, 434 EVs
Roosevelt/Garner, 38%, 98 EVs
Thomas/Maurer, 6%, 0 EVs
Foster/????, 2%, 0 EVs

     Not great, but a step in the right direction.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: aaaa2222 on December 27, 2008, 01:35:40 PM
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This is from a scenario that I created about that the Democratic Convention is bitter and leads to Hillary getting the nomination and Obama walking out and running under the "Reform Democratic" banner for president with Governor Easley of NC, also Obama is on the ballot on states he won during the primary season and ditto for Hillary. Played as Obama and used a media blitz to get many of the leaning or tossup states between Obama and McCain to go green and hit McCain with a few scandals. The Election results have no one getting a majority of the EV's and the House elects Hillary Clinton as the 44th President.

(R): John McCain/Mitt Romney: 201 EV 42% PV
(D): Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson: 183 EV 30% PV
(RD): Barack Obama/Mike Easley: 154 EV 26% PV
Other: 0 EV 2% PV
Can you email me this scenario? It seems fun, and I can't find it on the 80soft website.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 28, 2008, 12:42:23 AM
1992:
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Clinton: 41% PV, 279 EV
Bush: 43% PV, 259 EV
Perot: 16% PV, 0 EV

1996:
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Clinton: 43% PV, 326 EV
Dole: 42% PV, 212 EV
Perot: 15% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on December 28, 2008, 05:49:38 PM
2000:
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Bush: 47% PV, 274 EV
Gore: 46% PV, 264 EV
Nader: 7% PV, 0 EV

2004:
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Kerry: 48% PV, 287 EV
Bush: 47% PV, 251 EV
Nader: 5% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on December 28, 2008, 05:53:42 PM
1992:
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Clinton: 41% PV, 279 EV
Bush: 43% PV, 259 EV
Perot: 16% PV, 0 EV

1996:
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Clinton: 43% PV, 326 EV
Dole: 42% PV, 212 EV
Perot: 15% PV, 0 EV

OK, who tainted Vermont? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 04, 2009, 05:52:03 PM
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Clinton: 55% PV, 506 EV
Dole: 37% PV, 32 EV
Perot: 8% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 09, 2009, 10:25:04 PM
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Humphrey: 56% PV, 468 EV
Wallace: 17% PV, 70 EV
Nixon: 25% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on January 20, 2009, 04:11:26 AM
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Giuliani 478
Clinton   60


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 20, 2009, 05:21:29 PM
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Mondale: 52% PV, 299 EV
Reagan: 48% PV, 239 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Robespierre's Jaw on January 23, 2009, 09:30:35 PM
1972 Presidential Election

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Angela Davis/Eldridge Cleaver (Communist): 267 EV, 36% of the PV (37,002,682)
Timothy Leary/R.A Wilson (Freedom): 251 EV, 35% of the (35,856,091)
Abbie Hoffman/Jane Fonda (Revolutionary): 20 EV, 27% of the PV (27,410,467)

I ran as Hoffman, had 18% and 0 EV's going into Election Day. I somehow increased my popular vote totals by 9% and managed to win the states of Oregon, Nevada, North Dakota, South Dakota and Rhode Island. Sadly, Abbie wasn't elected President. Timothy Leary of the Freedom Party became America's first post-revolution President as the election was forced to the House.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on January 24, 2009, 03:58:06 PM
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Ford: 55% PV, 342 EV
Carter: 45% PV, 196 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on January 30, 2009, 02:13:06 AM
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Bush 482
Clinton 43
Perot 13


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Psychic Octopus on January 30, 2009, 07:19:25 PM

that's pretty good.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 11, 2009, 04:19:03 PM
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Hollings: 50.7% PV, 271 EV
Reagan: 49.3% PV, 267 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Nixon in '80 on February 13, 2009, 12:17:37 AM
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Paul Tsongas/Bill Clinton - 271 EV - 36.7%
George Bush/Pat Buchanan - 260 EV - 37.8%
Ross Perot/Pat Choate - 7 EV - 25.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 18, 2009, 06:03:29 PM
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Gore: 47.1% PV (57,333,427), 323 EV
Bush: 47.1% PV (57,319,113), 215 EV
Nader: 3.7% PV (4,533,557), 0 EV
Buchanan: 2% PV (2,453,099), 0 EV

Gore's best state was Rhode Island, with 82.6%
Bush's best state was Oklahoma, with 92.3%
Nader's best state was Alaska, with 17.5%
Buchanan's best state was Alaska, with 16.8%.

Gore won Wyoming by 204 votes.
Bush won Delaware by 313 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 18, 2009, 08:41:36 PM
I ran 1860 as a straight up Lincoln v. Bell, and got this:
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Lincoln: 73% PV, 303 EV
Bell: 27% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on February 19, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
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Gore: 47.1% PV (57,333,427), 323 EV
Bush: 47.1% PV (57,319,113), 215 EV
Nader: 3.7% PV (4,533,557), 0 EV
Buchanan: 2% PV (2,453,099), 0 EV

Gore's best state was Rhode Island, with 82.6%
Bush's best state was Oklahoma, with 92.3%
Nader's best state was Alaska, with 17.5%
Buchanan's best state was Alaska, with 16.8%.

Gore won Wyoming by 204 votes.
Bush won Delaware by 313 votes.

How did Buchanan and Nader do overall? I know they did well in Alaska but, for example, Buchanan must've scored in the mid-20s or something in order for Gore to win Wyoming.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 19, 2009, 07:41:33 PM
Nader and Buchanan both did very well.  They combined for nearly 6% of the popular vote, and broke 10% in multiple states each.  In DC, Nader finished ahead of Bush, and Oklahoma was the only state where neither of them reached 2%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on February 20, 2009, 02:01:41 AM
Nader and Buchanan both did very well.  They combined for nearly 6% of the popular vote, and broke 10% in multiple states each.  In DC, Nader finished ahead of Bush, and Oklahoma was the only state where neither of them reached 2%.

But why was Wyoming so close and why did Gore win it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 20, 2009, 04:02:08 PM
Nader and Buchanan both did very well.  They combined for nearly 6% of the popular vote, and broke 10% in multiple states each.  In DC, Nader finished ahead of Bush, and Oklahoma was the only state where neither of them reached 2%.

But why was Wyoming so close and why did Gore win it?

Right, sorry.  I don't know why it was so close, but Gore won by 0.1%.  Both Nader and Buchanan broke 10%, and Gore got 39%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 20, 2009, 09:58:20 PM
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Ford: 46.5% PV, 271 EV
Carter: 51.5% PV, 267 EV
McCarthy: 2% PV, 0 EV

Ford's best state was Montana, at 71.4%.
Carter's best state was Georgia, at 84.7%.
McCarthy's best state was California, at 10.3%.

Carter won South Dakota by 329 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on February 20, 2009, 10:15:01 PM
Nader and Buchanan both did very well.  They combined for nearly 6% of the popular vote, and broke 10% in multiple states each.  In DC, Nader finished ahead of Bush, and Oklahoma was the only state where neither of them reached 2%.

But why was Wyoming so close and why did Gore win it?

Right, sorry.  I don't know why it was so close, but Gore won by 0.1%.  Both Nader and Buchanan broke 10%, and Gore got 39%.

So maybe this was the result? Gore 39%, Bush 38.9%, Nader+Buchanan 22.1%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 20, 2009, 10:21:24 PM
Nader and Buchanan both did very well.  They combined for nearly 6% of the popular vote, and broke 10% in multiple states each.  In DC, Nader finished ahead of Bush, and Oklahoma was the only state where neither of them reached 2%.

But why was Wyoming so close and why did Gore win it?

Right, sorry.  I don't know why it was so close, but Gore won by 0.1%.  Both Nader and Buchanan broke 10%, and Gore got 39%.

So maybe this was the result? Gore 39%, Bush 38.9%, Nader+Buchanan 22.1%.

Yeah, that was it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on February 21, 2009, 08:16:57 AM
I played as Hillary Clinton in the 2008 Democratic Primaries, and i won most of the the early Primaries, and going into Super Tuesday i was about 10 points ahead of Obama nationally, and i was ahead in most of the states, Obama was ahead in about two or three, and there were a couple of ties, and Obama won every state on Super Tuesday! I couldn't beat him after that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on February 24, 2009, 02:32:59 PM
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Barbour v. Obama v. Ventura in 2012. Say hello to President Haley Barbour! He almost pissed away a 10% lead and won by just 3%.

Any popular vote totals by state?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on February 25, 2009, 08:22:57 PM
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Casey: 51% PV, 494 EV
Dole: 33.8% PV, 44 EV
Perot: 15.2% PV, 3 EV

Casey's best state was Illinois, with 83.9%.
Dole's best state was North Dakota, with 87.1%.
Perot's best state was Alaska, with 35.7%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hyperfast on March 04, 2009, 02:21:26 PM
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Hillary Clinton/John McCain: 82.9% PV, 538 EV
Ron Paul/Mike Huckabee: 15.9% PV, 0 EV
Mary Ruwart: 0.6% PV, 0 EV
Charles Baldwin: 0.6% PV, 0 EV

Clinton's best state was Wisconsin, with 91.6%
Paul's best state was Alaska, with 34.1%
Ruwart's best state was Texas, with 1.5%
Baldwins best state was Ohio, with 1.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on March 05, 2009, 03:17:53 PM
I ran 1860 as a straight up Lincoln v. Bell, and got this:
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Lincoln: 73% PV, 303 EV
Bell: 27% PV, 0 EV

How does one get <50% in a two way race?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on March 05, 2009, 05:11:39 PM
I ran 1860 as a straight up Lincoln v. Bell, and got this:
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Lincoln: 73% PV, 303 EV
Bell: 27% PV, 0 EV

How does one get <50% in a two way race?

South Carolina didn't hold elections back then for electors. Therefore, the evcalc shows SC as >30% on all maps until they started holding elections.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on March 05, 2009, 05:26:53 PM
I ran 1860 as a straight up Lincoln v. Bell, and got this:
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Lincoln: 73% PV, 303 EV
Bell: 27% PV, 0 EV

How does one get <50% in a two way race?

South Carolina didn't hold elections back then for electors. Therefore, the evcalc shows SC as >30% on all maps until they started holding elections.

     That always annoys me. I usually just edit the URL to reflect the result that PF gives. Even though it isn't accurate, it helps reflect the margin of the election's outcome.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on March 15, 2009, 09:26:57 AM
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This is a fictional 2012 scenario with McCain as President.

John McCain - 423 ECV's
Russ Feingold - 115 ECV's
Ron Paul - 0 ECV's

John McCain - 58,888,733 - 47%
Russ Feingold - 47,495,630 - 37.9%
Ron Paul - 18,862,513 - 15.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on March 15, 2009, 09:51:36 AM
In the future, Garrison, can you give us the state-by-state PV totals?  Thanks :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on March 18, 2009, 08:29:52 PM
Bentsen vs Robertson vs Paul vs Fulani 1988

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I was Bentsen.

Bentsen:538 61% of the popular vote
Robertson:0 32.9% of the popular vote
Paul:0 2.4% of the popular vote
Fulani:0 3.7% of the popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PBrunsel on March 29, 2009, 09:27:53 PM
In a 1952 scenario I made I finally elected Harold Stassen as President of the United States!

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Harold Stassen/Sherman Adams (R): 472 EV; 62% (49,257,042) of the PV
Adlai Stevenson/John Sparkman (D): 59 EV; 37% (29,070,762) of the PV

Hooray for President Stassen! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on March 30, 2009, 12:59:20 AM
Cuomo/Gore vs Bush/Voinovich vs Perot/Choate

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Cuomo:411 40.9% of the popular vote
Bush:116    34.9% of the popular vote
Perot:11     24.1% of the popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on May 06, 2009, 06:28:22 PM
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The Royer scenario.

Royer/Boutin (R) 50,217,639 42.6% / 451 EV
Royal/Montebourg (D) 37,873,190 32.1% / 87 EV
Bayrou/de Sarnez (I) 29,808,852 25.3% / 0 EV

Best:
Royer: Utah with 65.9% (Bayrou 17.6%, Royal 16.6%)
Royal: DC with 56.4% (Royer 25.6%, Bayrou 18%)
Bayrou: New Jersey with 30.4% (Royer 35.6%, Royal 34%)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on May 07, 2009, 02:37:52 PM
I Played as Seth Gillette in the West Wing 2006 Presidential Election. I used a toned down campaign and campaigned in the West and a number of New England states. Though this wasn't the keep to victory, I wanted to try it and the results were somewhat a suprise. California went to Baker with 50.9% to Vinick's 49.1% and was the deciding state for the election. My best state was ND with the 2nd place finish of 27.3%, which I only got 2nd place over Baker by 7 votes.

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(D)-Baker/Santos: 49.8%, 285 PV
(R)-Vinick/Sullivan: 48.7%, 253 PV
(I)-Gillette/Wade: 1.5%, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 07, 2009, 03:48:42 PM
Oh boy! I've been playing the demo for President Forever for the past few days. The game should come in the mail tomorrow. I'll probably be the biggest addict to it ever! What sucks so much about the demo is that it stops you, right as you are really starting to gain momentum. I've saved it a couple times, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to load them once I download the software.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 07, 2009, 03:52:48 PM
Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on May 07, 2009, 04:04:54 PM
Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.

You can download a cheap demo, but you need to buy the game online.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on May 07, 2009, 04:06:36 PM
Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.
Here's a link, hope it helps.
http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/info/index.htm


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 07, 2009, 04:30:09 PM
Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.

An amazing game. Only a political geek would love it though. I'm actually playing it now, still on demo though. (1 more day! :)) I'm Bill Richardson, running against Joe Biden. in the Democratic primaries.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 08, 2009, 02:26:56 AM
Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.
Here's a link, hope it helps.
http://www.theoryspark.com/political_games/president_forever/info/index.htm

Thanks a lot. :)


Seems interesting. Is it a dowloadable game ? If yes, can you give me a link ? Thanks a lot.

An amazing game. Only a political geek would love it though. I'm actually playing it now, still on demo though. (1 more day! :)) I'm Bill Richardson, running against Joe Biden. in the Democratic primaries.

So I will certainly adore it !


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on May 08, 2009, 10:52:18 AM
I played as Badnarik in my created "Stephen Colbert 2008" General Election scenario. I campaigned across the country and did the easiest things to drum up support and it worked. McCain destroyed Colbert for much of the campaign but only the good press that Colbert got from interviews and such, held him up against McCain but that fizzled away and Colbert underpreformed pretty bad come election day.

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(R)-John McCain/Mitt Romney: 51.5%, 439 EV
(D)-Stephen Colbert/Evan Bayh: 43.7%, 99 EV
(L)-Michael Badnarik/Lance Brown: 4.8%, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 08, 2009, 02:43:33 PM
I can't seem to drum up enough support as an Independant. How did you manage to get 4.8%???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on May 08, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
I can't seem to drum up enough support as an Independant. How did you manage to get 4.8%???
All I usually do is put footsoldier after footsoldier in a number of key states(I usually try to target five states and try to get 5 footsoldiers in each) and also when I can get it in I would do barnstorming, etc to continue and win over and get some acceleration in polls. Take the Libertarian ticket I ran as, I got a little over 20% in TX and OK, I nearly got 20% in AK, got a little over 30% in KS and got 11% in MO. So to simplify, target five states(have a big one in your sights so that can ramp up your national popular vote, mix the other four with medium and small states if you wish and target those repeatably to also help out in the national popular vote). But remember, the Democratic and Republican candidates also matter, so does just targeting only small states(EX: I ran as Nader in '04 and was only able to target two states but I targeted CT and ME and got 18% and 10% in those states but only got 0.5% nationally)

Yes this was very long but I hope that some of this helps. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 08, 2009, 03:50:35 PM
I can't seem to drum up enough support as an Independant. How did you manage to get 4.8%???
All I usually do is put footsoldier after footsoldier in a number of key states(I usually try to target five states and try to get 5 footsoldiers in each) and also when I can get it in I would do barnstorming, etc to continue and win over and get some acceleration in polls. Take the Libertarian ticket I ran as, I got a little over 20% in TX and OK, I nearly got 20% in AK, got a little over 30% in KS and got 11% in MO. So to simplify, target five states(have a big one in your sights so that can ramp up your national popular vote, mix the other four with medium and small states if you wish and target those repeatably to also help out in the national popular vote). But remember, the Democratic and Republican candidates also matter, so does just targeting only small states(EX: I ran as Nader in '04 and was only able to target two states but I targeted CT and ME and got 18% and 10% in those states but only got 0.5% nationally)

Yes this was very long but I hope that some of this helps. :)

Ahh
Thank you very much. I'll give it another go in a bit :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 09, 2009, 07:52:58 AM
During my first primary ( I chose Obama ), I won Iowa and Michigan while Gore won New Hampshire. I'm still ahead in pratically every state axcept New York, California, Arizona and Arkansas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 09, 2009, 12:28:35 PM
Well, I just finished my first game, as Mitt Romney. :) I actually did a lot better than final private polls showed. I was down by 8 points, and ended up only losing by 2.5 points. Louisiana was the only suprise. I trailed in Virginia and Colorado the whole way, but a final day push won it. I wasn't really that close to winning. Nevada, Iowa, and Wisconsin all barely went Democrat, but that didn't push me over. I lost Ohio and Louisiana by 9 points, and Michigan by 7.
Oh well, I'll get `em next time!.

Romney/Palin : 56,512,375  48.3%
Richardson/Clark: 60,552,194 51.7%

Closest States: Iowa, Nevada, Wisconson, Virginia, Colorado, Arkansas

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on May 09, 2009, 04:28:49 PM

Fail.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 09, 2009, 04:37:27 PM

It got way too confusing since they were the exact opposite. I will admit, I'm so used to seeing Blue as Republican that the map looks kinda weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 09, 2009, 07:22:47 PM
Just a question: Are you  guys all using President Forever 2004? Just wondering where you're getting all the scenarios from.
Anyone?

I use both.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on May 09, 2009, 07:32:44 PM
Just a question: Are you  guys all using President Forever 2004? Just wondering where you're getting all the scenarios from.


Anyone?

PF+P 2008.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on May 10, 2009, 12:38:19 AM
In another run as an third party candidate in my "Colbert '08" scenario, I played as the Constitution Party candidate Michael Peroutka and got over 30% in KY, over 20% in UT, TX and TN. The campaign between the Republican and Democratic candidates, Sam Brownback and Stephen Colbert was a slug fest as both vied for their short time as leaders in polls. This continued until election, which spat out a very strange results as Colbert was actually leading in the polls before.

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(R)-Sam Brownback/George Pataki: 295 EV, 49.2%
(D)-Stephen Colbert/Bill Richardson: 243 EV, 47%
(C)-Michael Peroutka/Chuck Baldwin: 0 EV, 3.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 10, 2009, 03:13:24 PM
Well, I just completed an exciting game, defeating Hillary Clinton with Romney.  After barely edging out Giuliani in the primaries, I chose him as my VP, while Clinton chose Sebelius. Neither of us ever gained a lead over 2% in national polls. The economy tanked in mid-October. My campaign ran out of money at the end. Extremely close. I was on the tip of my chair the whole way.

Close State Results:
Louisiana: Romney wins by 18,000 votes
Ohio: Romney wins by 63,000 votes
Pennyslvania: Clinton wins by 20,000 votes
Wisconsin: Clinton wins by 39,000 votes
Colorado: Romney wins by 5,000 votes
Nevada: Romney wins by 9,000 votes
New Mexico: Romney wins by 17,000 votes.
In a way, I only won by about 5,000 votes in Colorado, because if it had gone for Hillary, it would have been a tie. I don't know how PF determines a winner in a tie.
(Romney wins over 75% of the Utah vote)

National Popular Vote:
Romney/Giuliani:  98,276,362   50.3%
Clinton/Sebelius: 97,037,943    49.7%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on May 10, 2009, 03:34:22 PM
Running as Nader in 2000, targeting only CA, AK, ME, and at the last minute, VT.

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McCain/Engler 52,905,268 (49.1%) / 279 EV
Gore/Bayh 50,750,259 (47.1%) / 259 EV
Nader/LaDuke 4,157,942 (3.9%)

Alaska: 19%, Maine: 11.3%, California: 10.1%, Vermont: 9.9%
Other good results in Colorado (8.2%), MA (6.5%), Hawai'i (6.1%), Montana (6.1%), Rhode Island (6%), Minnesota (5.6%),


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 11, 2009, 12:45:44 PM
My situation 5 weeks before the election :

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I really need to improve my tactics.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 11, 2009, 03:06:25 PM
The game has some interesting twists. Louisiana is always extremely close, and California is winnable for a Republican in the `08 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 13, 2009, 02:34:24 PM
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Mark Warner (D-VA)/Barack Obama (D-IL) - 478 EVs with 59.0% PV and 69,890,882 votes
George Allen (R-VA)/Bill Owens (R-CO) - 60 EVs with 38.3% PV and 45,338,304 votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 EVs with 1.6% PV and 1,872,027 votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 EVs with 1.2% PV and 1,376,103 votes

Best states for Warner
Massachusetts - 73.1%-26.4%
New York - 70.1%-27.9%
Rhode Island - 69.7%-27.2%
Vermont - 69.6%-26.7%
Washington - 67.6%-31.4%

Best states for Allen
Nebraska - 51.4%-47.6%
Oklahoma - 50.3% - 49.2%
Wyoming - 50.1%-47.1%
Kansas - 50%-49%
North Dakota - 49.9%-49.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 13, 2009, 05:54:16 PM
I just ran a pretty intense election. Fred Thompson should have won the Republican primaries in real life. He was actually a pretty good candidate.

Thompson/McCain: 99,030,069   50.7%
Edwards/Kerry: 96,284,236        49.3%

Polls going into election Day:
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Final Results:
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Closest States:
Nevada-Thompson wins by 434 votes
Wisconsin-Thompson wins by 10,000 votes
New Hampshire: Edwards wins by 15,000 votes

Results are shockingly similar to the 2004 election.
(Another interesting this is, I never led in the National Popular vote, or the Electoral Vote, once during the campaign)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 13, 2009, 07:56:52 PM
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Bayh: 48% PV, 318 EV
Romney: 46.5% PV, 220 EV
Barr: 3.9% PV, 0 EV
Baldwin: 1.6% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 16, 2009, 10:14:22 AM
An interesting game.
I was Brownback. The game has a weird glitch to where Ron Paul wins a state if he has more than 3% there. That made me lose to Thompson. But, I got Paul's endorsement and his delegate, so I won by 7 delegates, I believe.

Brownback/Pawlenty: 107,227,933   54.6%
Clinton/Feingold:          87,362,401    44.5%
Barr/Root:                      1,745,242         .9%

Future Historians would describe this election as "tricky"

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Interesting State Results:
California-Brownback wins by 1.5 million vote (54-44%)
Washington-Brownback wins by 600,000 (57-41%)
District of Columbia-Clinton wins by 150,000 (66-33%)
(Massachusetts and Vermont were both toss-up states)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Smid on May 17, 2009, 07:57:50 AM

It got way too confusing since they were the exact opposite. I will admit, I'm so used to seeing Blue as Republican that the map looks kinda weird.

It's got so annoying for me seeing Republican as red and Democrat as blue, I used Campaigns Forever to edit the colour around the right way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on May 17, 2009, 04:29:38 PM
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Carter: 40.7% PV, 334 EV
Ford: 37.4% PV, 204 EV
McCarthy: 21.9% PV, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on May 19, 2009, 09:19:44 PM
Although I didn't like some of his more extreme positions, I always found Ron Paul's rapid growth in popularity followed by a rather poor performance (given the amount of money at his disposal) interesting. I decided to run a game as him. The primaries were easy as he swept all the early primaries. After Super Tuesday, his only contender was Rudy Giuliani, who won all the primaries from Pennsylvania on, though he still lost. Ron Paul had a huge lead over Hillary Clinton until the last few weeks, when the gap closed, which led to this map.

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Ron Paul: 53.2%, 285 Ev's
Hillary Clinton: 46.8%, 253 Ev's

A 0.5 percent swing in Pennsylvania would've given Hillary the victory. Overall, Paul was a weak candidate in the electoral college in this game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RI on May 20, 2009, 09:04:02 PM
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Wesley Clark/John Edwards (D): 47.2% (274 E.V.)
Mitt Romney/John McCain (R): 51.1% (264 E.V.)
Michael Peroutka (C): 1.7% (0 E.V.)

My liberal Mitt Romney loses despite winning the four most populous states in the country, a feat which has never before been done. The majority of Clark's victories were razor thin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on May 21, 2009, 04:03:04 AM
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Wesley Clark/John Edwards (D): 47.2% (274 E.V.)
Mitt Romney/John McCain (R): 51.1% (264 E.V.)
Michael Peroutka (C): 1.7% (0 E.V.)

My liberal Mitt Romney loses despite winning the four most populous states in the country, a feat which has never before been done. The majority of Clark's victories were razor thin.

One of the strangest maps I ever saw.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 25, 2009, 02:04:06 PM
2004 Scenario...
Mosely-Braun/Bush: 44,292,659
Powell/Rice: 50,804,781

I was Braun. I barely campaigned, and it was still somewhat close.
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 26, 2009, 06:35:30 PM
2008 scenario...
Bayh/Clinton: 51.5%
Romney/Giuliani: 47.1%
Barr/Root: 1.4%

I ran Bayh more as a Centrist. A 4.4, I believe. Barr had a good showing, and was able to pick up 5% in several states. Wyoming was a last second thing. I deployed Hillary to Texas, and she spent a majority of her time there. For the longest time, over 200 EV's were in the "toss-up" category. A lot of close states. I'm proud of myself for getting over 40% in Utah, as well.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 27, 2009, 02:59:31 PM
1984

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Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Representative Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) - 515 Electoral Votes and 48,654,653 (55.3%) Popular Votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 23 Electoral Votes and 35,385,255 (40.2%) Popular Votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,006,503 (4.6%) Popular Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 27, 2009, 06:53:50 PM
2012 (without the EV changes)

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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 446 Electoral Votes and 65,879,484 (53.6%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) - 92 Electoral Votes and 45,763,292 (37.3%) Popular Votes
Representative Ron Paul (L-TX-14)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 Electoral Votes and 6,288,837 (5.1%) Popular Votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,880,959 (4.0%) Popular Votes


BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 27, 2009, 08:09:42 PM
2012 (without the EV changes)

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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 446 Electoral Votes and 65,879,484 (53.6%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) - 92 Electoral Votes and 45,763,292 (37.3%) Popular Votes
Representative Ron Paul (L-TX-14)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 Electoral Votes and 6,288,837 (5.1%) Popular Votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,880,959 (4.0%) Popular Votes


BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?
How did you get the 2012 scenario? Has a new version been released?
(lol at Oklahoma ;))


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 27, 2009, 08:25:51 PM
2012 (without the EV changes)

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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 446 Electoral Votes and 65,879,484 (53.6%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL) - 92 Electoral Votes and 45,763,292 (37.3%) Popular Votes
Representative Ron Paul (L-TX-14)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 Electoral Votes and 6,288,837 (5.1%) Popular Votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,880,959 (4.0%) Popular Votes


BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?
How did you get the 2012 scenario? Has a new version been released?
(lol at Oklahoma ;))

It was on the games website. There's versions with Clinton, McCain and Cheney as the incumbents aswell.

http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/p4e8_2012/ (http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/p4e8_2012/)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 27, 2009, 08:29:25 PM
Thank you very much. I never would have found this if it wasn't for your help. :)

Question: I downloaded the one where Obama was incumbment. How do I play it now? I have the file for it, but that's it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 28, 2009, 05:04:50 AM
Thank you very much. I never would have found this if it wasn't for your help. :)

Question: I downloaded the one where Obama was incumbment. How do I play it now? I have the file for it, but that's it.

You need a program like WinRar or Winzip.
http://download2.winzip.com/winzip121.exe (http://download2.winzip.com/winzip121.exe)

Then you unzip the folder into this folder:
C:/Program Files/President Forever 2008 + Primaries/scenarios


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 28, 2009, 07:12:10 AM
Thank you very much. I got it working. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some results later. I'm curious on the 2012 Obama version, why there is no Palin though...
:)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 28, 2009, 03:49:34 PM
2012 Scenario with McCain as incumbment...

McCain/Romney: 50.2%
Feingold/Richardson: 49.8%

Interesting outcome. I won every state by around the same amount. Every state Feingold won (minus the 4 in the middle) went to him with over 60% of the vote, causing an extremely close popular vote.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on May 28, 2009, 11:11:17 PM
Very bizarre map.

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McCain/Palin 49.2%, 345 EVs
Obama/Biden 49.5%, 193 EVs
Barr/Root 1.3%, 0 EVs

The polls were totally wrong. I had a comfortable lead in Texas on election night, yet I never expected to win New Jersey.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 29, 2009, 05:56:50 AM
^^^
How did you manage to get 60% in Louisiana? It's always extremely close when I play. It's actually not too bizarre, since all of those states are somewhat close at the beginning of the game, except Texas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 29, 2009, 06:14:08 AM
Thank you very much. I got it working. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some results later. I'm curious on the 2012 Obama version, why there is no Palin though...
:)

I think it might've made during the primaries last, but i'm not sure. I added Palin with the candidate editor.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 29, 2009, 06:15:43 AM
Thank you very much. I got it working. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some results later. I'm curious on the 2012 Obama version, why there is no Palin though...
:)

I think it might've made during the primaries last, but i'm not sure. I added Palin with the candidate editor.
I was going to do that, but you can never be sure about percentages, how much money, etc. Stuff that determines how well the candidate does.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 29, 2009, 07:29:53 AM
Thank you very much. I got it working. Hopefully, I'll be able to post some results later. I'm curious on the 2012 Obama version, why there is no Palin though...
:)

I think it might've made during the primaries last, but i'm not sure. I added Palin with the candidate editor.
I was going to do that, but you can never be sure about percentages, how much money, etc. Stuff that determines how well the candidate does.

Lol, I basically just took some educated guess... there may have been some bias in there aswell. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 29, 2009, 07:41:35 AM
2008 "Enhanced" Scenario

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 375 Electoral Votes with 73,520,757 (56.0%) Popular Votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 163 Electoral Votes with 56,101,093 (42.7%) Popular Votes
Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Darrell Castle (C-TN) - 0 Electoral Votes with 912,199 (0.7%) Popular Votes
Former Representative Bob Barr (L-GA-7)/Wayne Allyn Root (L-NY) - 0 Electoral Votes with 794,250 (0.6%) Popular Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 29, 2009, 10:56:23 AM
2004

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Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 408 Electoral Votes with 61,702,009 (53.9%) Popular Votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 130 Electoral Votes with 49,129,337 (42.9%) Popular Votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Richard Campagna (L-IA) - 0 Electoral Votes and 2,724,260 (2.4%) Popular Votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 Electoral Votes and 601,768 (0.5%) Popular Votes
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Peter Camejo (I-CA) - 0 Electoral Votes and 303,433 (0.3%) Popular Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 29, 2009, 03:12:09 PM
2008

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 29, 2009, 03:25:13 PM
2008

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on May 29, 2009, 03:26:22 PM
2008

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 29, 2009, 03:43:00 PM
2008

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. ;)
I think your hate for Romney is greater than my hate for Huckabee, which I always thought to be impossible.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on May 29, 2009, 05:27:02 PM
^^^
How did you manage to get 60% in Louisiana? It's always extremely close when I play. It's actually not too bizarre, since all of those states are somewhat close at the beginning of the game, except Texas.

I have no idea how this happened. The polls suggested a conventional map on election day. I think it was my last minute rush of national ads that affected some areas more than others (the polls showed Obama with an edge).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on May 29, 2009, 08:21:24 PM
2008

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. ;)
I think your hate for Romney is greater than my hate for Huckabee, which I always thought to be impossible.

Well, at least you admit to hating Huckabee....


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 29, 2009, 08:24:28 PM
2008

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 346 Electoral Votes and 72,074,077 (61.5%) Popular Votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 192 Electoral Votes and 45,114,505 (38.5%) Popular Votes

Nearly all of Romney's wins were razor thin.
Impossible. Romney is unbeatable in General Elections. ;)
I think your hate for Romney is greater than my hate for Huckabee, which I always thought to be impossible.

Well, at least you admit to hating Huckabee....
Yep, did I ever deny it?
He's gone after my religion, which is never a positive. He raised taxes as governor, then, when Govenor Mitt Romney asked Huckabee if he did, he kept going around the question, which is a big negative for me. Also, he kept going after Romney, even though McCain was the frontrunner, and the one who's views differed from Huckabee's. Huckabee's campaign seemed to be focused on bringing Romney down.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 30, 2009, 08:48:45 AM
BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?

Anyone? :)

Also, how do you even make scenarios?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on May 31, 2009, 05:07:19 PM
I;'ve just played an extremely close election on the 2008 historic scenario. I played as Kennedy and lost the electoral college while winning the popular vote. Hawaii, Wisconsin and Alabama (which were all won by less than 1%) would've sent the election to the house if Kennedy had carried those states.

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President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 291 Electoral Votes and 54,478,943 (33.7%) Popular Votes
President John F. Kennedy (D-MA)/President Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) - 208 Electoral Votes and 55,037,616 (34.0%) Popular Votes
President George Washington (N/A-VA)/President John Adams (F-MA) - 39 Electoral Votes and 29,596,291 (18.3%) Popular Votes
President Thomas Jefferson (DR-VA)/Vice President Aaron Burr (DR-NY) - 0 Electoral Votes and 13,930,237 (8.6%) Popular Votes
President John Tyler (W-VA)/President William Henry Harrison (W-VA) - 0 Electoral Votes and 8,828,057 (5.5%) Popular Votes




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 01, 2009, 08:10:18 AM
BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?

Anyone? :)

Also, how do you even make scenarios?
http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/p4e8_2012/

Cut the scenario with Winzip and paste it in the Scenario folder.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 01, 2009, 01:54:00 PM
BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?

Anyone? :)

Also, how do you even make scenarios?
http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/p4e8_2012/

Cut the scenario with Winzip and paste it in the Scenario folder.

Oh, no, I meant make a whole customized scenario with your own percentages/parties/events etc.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 01, 2009, 02:21:34 PM
BTW, does anyone know where I can get the 1992 scenario from?

Anyone? :)

Also, how do you even make scenarios?
http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/p4e8_2012/

Cut the scenario with Winzip and paste it in the Scenario folder.

Oh, no, I meant make a whole customized scenario with your own percentages/parties/events etc.
You'll need Campaign Forever for that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 02, 2009, 07:49:25 AM
My first complete campaign.
As Obama, I easily destroyed Clinton and Gore in the Primaries and could rapidly concentrate myself on the general elections.

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I picked Edwards as my running mate. On the republican side, Giuliany won very closely against Romney and nominated Brownback.
I never lost the solid lead I had, even if I did a bit worse than expected :

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Obama/Edwards : 63.077.202 ( 53,8% ), 332 E.V.
Giuliani/Brownback : 54.111.381 ( 46,2% ), 206 E.V.


Oh, and the most great : Texas results
Obama : 49,9
Giuliani : 50,1
I strongly campaigned here and it was the closest state !


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 02, 2009, 03:53:46 PM
Some states sure are weird. For example, as a Republican, I've never lost Florida, and only won Iowa once. And as a Democrat, I rarely win Florida and Missouri. Louisiana is always extmremely difficult to win as a Republican, as is New Hampshire.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 03, 2009, 01:11:58 PM
Can I ask you some help ?

I'm trying to use the candidate editor, and I managed to understand everything except one thing : the candidate's percentages. Could someone try to explain me what exactly means "starting", "committed", "leaning", "undecided" and "alienated" percentages and what are their exact effects ?
For example, naively thinking that "starting percentage" was the percentage owned by a candidate at the start of an election, I tried to set them at 100. As a result, the real score was.. 0% ! What does it mean ?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 03, 2009, 01:16:34 PM
Uh...
That threw me off too!
I think, starting percentage is the number you would get on election day. If you have 100% committed, you would have your starting percentage as your polling percentage. I think that leaning is undecideds who would break for you, and undecided are ones that could easily be swayed, but would also vote for you.

I could be wrong. If I am, I apologize.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 03, 2009, 03:05:05 PM
Uh...
That threw me off too!
I think, starting percentage is the number you would get on election day. If you have 100% committed, you would have your starting percentage as your polling percentage. I think that leaning is undecideds who would break for you, and undecided are ones that could easily be swayed, but would also vote for you.

I could be wrong. If I am, I apologize.
Thanks.

Anyone who could more precisely inform me ?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 04, 2009, 03:07:53 PM
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beat Obama in landslide as myself

Me / Palin  vs Obama/ Bayh

528                                   10

btw my states in the game was New York


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 04, 2009, 04:26:56 PM
Some states sure are weird. For example, as a Republican, I've never lost Florida, and only won Iowa once. And as a Democrat, I rarely win Florida and Missouri. Louisiana is always extmremely difficult to win as a Republican, as is New Hampshire.

It's so hard for me to win Virginia and Wisconsin ,but I can win CA and MN so easily. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on June 05, 2009, 12:10:52 AM
Some states sure are weird. For example, as a Republican, I've never lost Florida, and only won Iowa once. And as a Democrat, I rarely win Florida and Missouri. Louisiana is always extmremely difficult to win as a Republican, as is New Hampshire.

     I've found that time & time again, regardless of year, party, campaign, etc., Colorado is consistently one of my worst states. I can't count the number of 48-state landslides I have won where I have lost Colorado.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 05, 2009, 04:05:37 PM
I win CO on a average of 56-44 Most of the time. But Iowa and Tennessee are killers. Lawl


I win TN on a average of 55.6-44.4 and Iowa : 49-48


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 06, 2009, 06:03:24 PM
Just played the 2008 with historic candiates scenario again. I played as George Washington.

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Going into election day, I was only leading in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, but a set of 4 ads (two for Washington leadership and one each attacking Eisenhower and Roosevelt) catapulted me forward come election night winning some states out of no where and holding the leading in the popular vote throughout the count. I was the only candidate to break 40% in any state.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY)/President Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 196 Electoral Votes and 45,392,922 (28.0%) Popular Votes
President George Washington (N/A-VA)/President John Adams (F-MA) - 195 Electoral Votes and 51,989,001 (32.1%) Popular Votes
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/President Harry Truman (D-MO) - 147 Electoral Votes and 44,263,284 (27.3%) Popular Votes
Others (Adams for the Democratic-Republican Party and Tyler for the Whig Party) - 20,239,137 (12.5%) Popular Votes combined.

Unfortunatly for Washington, the winner of the Popular Vote, and Eisenhower, who had a pluralty of the electoral votes, the Democratic congress chose President Roosevelt to become president once again.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 07, 2009, 05:19:40 AM
Just played the 2008 with historic candiates scenario again. I played as George Washington.

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Going into election day, I was only leading in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, but a set of 4 ads (two for Washington leadership and one each attacking Eisenhower and Roosevelt) catapulted me forward come election night winning some states out of no where and holding the leading in the popular vote throughout the count. I was the only candidate to break 40% in any state.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY)/President Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 196 Electoral Votes and 45,392,922 (28.0%) Popular Votes
President George Washington (N/A-VA)/President John Adams (F-MA) - 195 Electoral Votes and 51,989,001 (32.1%) Popular Votes
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/President Harry Truman (D-MO) - 147 Electoral Votes and 44,263,284 (27.3%) Popular Votes
Others (Adams for the Democratic-Republican Party and Tyler for the Whig Party) - 20,239,137 (12.5%) Popular Votes combined.

Unfortunatly for Washington, the winner of the Popular Vote, and Eisenhower, who had a pluralty of the electoral votes, the Democratic congress chose President Roosevelt to become president once again.


Looks very original to see Roosevelt winning in Vermont and Eisenhower winning in Alabama.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 07, 2009, 07:41:17 AM
Just played the 2008 with historic candiates scenario again. I played as George Washington.

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Going into election day, I was only leading in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, but a set of 4 ads (two for Washington leadership and one each attacking Eisenhower and Roosevelt) catapulted me forward come election night winning some states out of no where and holding the leading in the popular vote throughout the count. I was the only candidate to break 40% in any state.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY)/President Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 196 Electoral Votes and 45,392,922 (28.0%) Popular Votes
President George Washington (N/A-VA)/President John Adams (F-MA) - 195 Electoral Votes and 51,989,001 (32.1%) Popular Votes
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/President Harry Truman (D-MO) - 147 Electoral Votes and 44,263,284 (27.3%) Popular Votes
Others (Adams for the Democratic-Republican Party and Tyler for the Whig Party) - 20,239,137 (12.5%) Popular Votes combined.

Unfortunatly for Washington, the winner of the Popular Vote, and Eisenhower, who had a pluralty of the electoral votes, the Democratic congress chose President Roosevelt to become president once again.


Looks very original to see Roosevelt winning in Vermont and Eisenhower winning in Alabama.

It's supposed to take place in '08, so the states are all in 2008 voting patterns.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 07, 2009, 09:46:49 PM
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Reagan: 37.4%
Kennedy: 30.5%
Washington:18.5%
Jefferson: 6.9%
Taylor: 6.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 08, 2009, 06:13:21 AM
Just played the 2008 with historic candiates scenario again. I played as George Washington.

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Going into election day, I was only leading in New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, Virginia and West Virginia, but a set of 4 ads (two for Washington leadership and one each attacking Eisenhower and Roosevelt) catapulted me forward come election night winning some states out of no where and holding the leading in the popular vote throughout the count. I was the only candidate to break 40% in any state.

President Dwight D. Eisenhower (R-NY)/President Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 196 Electoral Votes and 45,392,922 (28.0%) Popular Votes
President George Washington (N/A-VA)/President John Adams (F-MA) - 195 Electoral Votes and 51,989,001 (32.1%) Popular Votes
President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D-NY)/President Harry Truman (D-MO) - 147 Electoral Votes and 44,263,284 (27.3%) Popular Votes
Others (Adams for the Democratic-Republican Party and Tyler for the Whig Party) - 20,239,137 (12.5%) Popular Votes combined.

Unfortunatly for Washington, the winner of the Popular Vote, and Eisenhower, who had a pluralty of the electoral votes, the Democratic congress chose President Roosevelt to become president once again.


Looks very original to see Roosevelt winning in Vermont and Eisenhower winning in Alabama.

It's supposed to take place in '08, so the states are all in 2008 voting patterns.

To be realistic, you should modify GE percentages using the html.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 11, 2009, 03:14:42 PM
Just finished the democratic primaries on the enchanced 2008 scenario. It's so cool, it has all the events even things like the "ZOMG! Sniper fire!" moment.

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Red - Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Blue - Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)
Yellow - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Green - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)

Current game date June 9, 2008. The Republicans have picked Governor Romney and this is the map going into the summer:

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Polls showing
Romney 46.7% (288 EVs)
Obama 42.3% (102 EVs)
Ruwart 0.4%
Baldwin 0.4%

Undecided 10.1%
Toss Up States 148 EVs

I have a way to go.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 11, 2009, 04:31:02 PM
Update on last post. I (Obama/Byah) WON!

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Barack Obama/Evan Byah - 384 EV and 50.6%
Mitt Romney/Mark Sanford - 154 EV and 43.3%
Others - 6.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 12, 2009, 04:12:44 PM
ALABAMA??!? :O

Wow... just wow.
President Forever is weird.

I didn't expect that, but I only got just over 40% of the vote. 3rd parties are always strong in Alabama in President FOrever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 12, 2009, 05:17:59 PM
I'm running a ticket of Giuliani / Lieberman vs Hillary /Edwards. I'll post results later.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 12, 2009, 05:28:07 PM
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I barely beat Hillary/ Edwards. Thanks to a slim 457 vote win in MN and a 1,678 vote in OH

Giuliani /Lieberman win!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 12, 2009, 05:31:17 PM
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Cuomo/Gephardt: 47.9% PV, 315 EV
Baker/Kemp: 47.9% PV, 223 EV
Paul/Means: 3.4% PV, 0 EV
Fulani/Newman: 0.9% PV, 0 EV

Maine was decided by a margin of 46 votes (256,141)-(256,095).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 12, 2009, 05:44:08 PM
Here  are osme of my old wins :

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Giuliani / Me (blue) vs Biden/ Hillary (red) vs Baldwin /Castle (green)


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McCain /Palin vs Obama/ Biden





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 12, 2009, 06:05:05 PM
1992

George Bush/Pete Wilson (R)-501 Electoral Votes
   45,651,357   41.5%
Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo (D)-31 Electoral Votes
   36,889,084   33.5%
Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)-4 Electoral Votes
   27,556,423   25%
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I played as Perot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 12, 2009, 06:12:13 PM
1992

George Bush/Pete Wilson (R)-501 Electoral Votes
   45,651,357   41.5%
Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo (D)-31 Electoral Votes
   36,889,084   33.5%
Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)-4 Electoral Votes
   27,556,423   25%
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I played as Perot.


How do you get 1992? My version doesnt have it. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 12, 2009, 06:13:09 PM
Here  are osme of my old wins :

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Giuliani / Me (blue) vs Biden/ Hillary (red) vs Baldwin /Castle (green)


How did Baldwin win anything? He's never gotten anything on any game i've played on it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 12, 2009, 06:16:06 PM
1992

George Bush/Pete Wilson (R)-501 Electoral Votes
   45,651,357   41.5%
Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo (D)-31 Electoral Votes
   36,889,084   33.5%
Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)-4 Electoral Votes
   27,556,423   25%
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I played as Perot.


How do you get 1992? My version doesnt have it. :(

If you have the President Forever 2008 + Primaries, you can go to "Scenarios" when you start the game, and pick another year.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 12, 2009, 09:47:31 PM
Well, I did the New England Recession scenario, running as Romney
http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/2009/05/08/united-states-new-england-secession-2012/
I did remarkable, but no one reached 270, and Obama won Congress, which is entirely unfair since he took last, but whatever.

Popular Vote
Romney: 35.2%
Jinal: 33.6%
Obama: 31.3%

Electoral Vote
Romney- 226
Jindal- 188
Obama- 124

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(Actually, I think I'm going to run it again later, and see if I can win. If so, I'll post, but not the map. Making these close ones are difficutl!)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 12, 2009, 09:54:28 PM
I played as Regan in the 1980 scenario today, and Jimmy Carter won EVERY state. Also I beat Anderson by only 5% for 2nd palace (he got like 22%).  Now do I run good campaigns or what!? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 12, 2009, 11:44:45 PM
Here  are osme of my old wins :

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Giuliani / Me (blue) vs Biden/ Hillary (red) vs Baldwin /Castle (green)


How did Baldwin win anything? He's never gotten anything on any game i've played on it.

I was winning in all states ,with 62% of Pop. VOte. Baldwin spun a power 9 scandel on me. I was lucky to win. As I spined a Power 8 scandel on Biden AND Baldwin.

Closet state :

NY (Won by 1,345)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 13, 2009, 08:10:55 PM
1992

George Bush/Pete Wilson (R)-501 Electoral Votes
   45,651,357   41.5%
Bill Clinton/Mario Cuomo (D)-31 Electoral Votes
   36,889,084   33.5%
Ross Perot/James Stockdale (I)-4 Electoral Votes
   27,556,423   25%
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I played as Perot.


How do you get 1992? My version doesnt have it. :(

If you have the President Forever 2008 + Primaries, you can go to "Scenarios" when you start the game, and pick another year.

I have 2008 + Primaries, but mine only came with 2004 and 2008 for some reason :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on June 13, 2009, 11:54:19 PM
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Barack Obama 50.8%

Rudy Giuliani 36.1%

Ron Paul 13.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 14, 2009, 09:46:54 AM
you did better in OK then CA? lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Willy Woz on June 14, 2009, 02:14:43 PM
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Barack Obama 50.8%

Rudy Giuliani 36.1%

Ron Paul 13.1%


This is honestly the weirdest map I've ever seen? Obama wins Mississippi? Tennessee? Oklahoma?

Anyway, I lost every state when playing as Duncan Hunter. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 14, 2009, 02:31:36 PM
Ok, I ran as Brownback againest Ron Paul in the primary.

My best result :


Kansas :

Paul : 96%
Brownback : 4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on June 14, 2009, 03:15:55 PM
No, I was Ron Paul.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 14, 2009, 04:14:12 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 317 electoral votes and 69,623,188 (54%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sonny Perdue (R-GA) - 221 electoral votes and 59,397,106 (46%) popular votes

This was down the wire right up until election day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 14, 2009, 05:06:18 PM
OK, I just barely beat Romney in the primary. But.. I won Utah and MA. And he won NC And NY ( My homestates)

lol this game is weird


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 14, 2009, 05:37:03 PM
OK, I just barely beat Romney in the primary. But.. I won Utah and MA. And he won NC And NY ( My homestates)

lol this game is weird

Very.
On the Obama Vs. McCain map above, I barely beat Hillary in the primaries (by about 12 delegates) and I easily won New York, but lost Hawaii.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on June 15, 2009, 12:53:01 AM

How did you do as Paul, state by state?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 15, 2009, 01:54:39 PM
2008

Mitt Romney/Rudy Giuliani-290 electoral votes, 62,266,617 53.1%
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine-248 electoral votes, 54,919,996 46.9%
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I played as Romney. The closest state was Oregon, which Romney won: 50.2%-49.8% or 5,000 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 15, 2009, 01:59:49 PM
2008

Mitt Romney/Rudy Giuliani-290 electoral votes, 62,266,617 53.1%
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine-248 electoral votes, 54,919,996 46.9%
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I played as Romney

Illinois and California are so unrealistically winnable for Republicans in the 2008 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 15, 2009, 02:09:36 PM
2008

Mitt Romney/Rudy Giuliani-290 electoral votes, 62,266,617 53.1%
Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine-248 electoral votes, 54,919,996 46.9%
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I played as Romney

Illinois and California are so unrealistically winnable for Republicans in the 2008 scenario.

I know! I won Illinois 50.4 to 49.6, or by 45,510 votes. And California was a battleground state the entire election, but Clinton won it 53.3 to 46.7


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 16, 2009, 05:13:26 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Evan Byah (D-IN) - 360 electoral votes and 69,531,160 (53.9%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) - 178 electoral votes and 59,489,133 (46.1%) popular votes

Romney won Utah by 2.5% HAHAHAHA


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 18, 2009, 01:44:22 PM
I played the 2012 scenario, where Clinton was the incumbment. I played John Thune. Basically, I got western America sold Thune. While I lost most of the leadoff states, I did great on Super Tuesday, and ended up winning the nomination. On the Democratic side, Obama narrowly defeated Clinton by just a few delegates.

Barack Obama/John Edwards: 90,204,115  45.6%
John Thune/Sarah Palin: 117,450,625  54.4%

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Biggest Republican win: Utah, 75.6%-24.4%
Closest Republican win: Oregon, 51.4%-48.6%
Biggest Democrat win: D.C., 75.4%-25.3%
Closest Democrat win: Michigan, 51.3%-48.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 18, 2009, 04:28:00 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 19, 2009, 04:10:25 AM
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Could not lose with a similar endorsement.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 19, 2009, 07:57:48 PM
2004 - I played as Kerry/Bayh

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Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 397 electoral votes and 63,124,289 (55.1%) popular votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 141 electoral votes and 46,927,382 (41.0%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 2,610,493 (2.3%) popular votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 electoral votes and 1,217,443 (1.1%) popular votes
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Peter Camejo (I-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 582,037 (0.5%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 19, 2009, 09:16:04 PM
2004 - I played as Kerry/Bayh

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Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 397 electoral votes and 63,124,289 (55.1%) popular votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 141 electoral votes and 46,927,382 (41.0%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 2,610,493 (2.3%) popular votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 electoral votes and 1,217,443 (1.1%) popular votes
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Peter Camejo (I-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 582,037 (0.5%) popular votes

WOW! Kerry wins Alabama, Texas, and Utah!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 20, 2009, 04:40:19 AM
2004 - I played as Kerry/Bayh

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Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 397 electoral votes and 63,124,289 (55.1%) popular votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 141 electoral votes and 46,927,382 (41.0%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 2,610,493 (2.3%) popular votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 electoral votes and 1,217,443 (1.1%) popular votes
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Peter Camejo (I-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 582,037 (0.5%) popular votes

Oh, Utah ! :D
What a victory !!!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 20, 2009, 07:14:42 PM
2008 as Romney

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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Govenor George Pataki (R-NY) - 475 electoral votes and 70,240,034 (59.3%) popular votes
Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 63 electoral votes and 44,880,399 (37.9%) popular votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 electoral votes and 2,001,803 (1.7%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 1,355,079 (1.1%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 20, 2009, 07:21:29 PM
Only 110 million voters

Romney-56.4%Edwards-43.6%
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on June 21, 2009, 12:37:03 AM
No real "result" here, but anyway.

While change08's screenshot of Dukakis endorsing himself is certainly funny, this is more ridiculous....

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 21, 2009, 05:01:57 AM
No real "result" here, but anyway.

While change08's screenshot of Dukakis endorsing himself is certainly funny, this is more ridiculous....

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:D :D :D :D :D :D

Ah, yes, I know. Gore can be a crusader of Obama, and if he is running against Gore...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on June 21, 2009, 10:04:47 AM

I love President Forever...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 21, 2009, 02:15:38 PM
1976 playing as Carter

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Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 384 electoral votes and 55,167,847 (55.3%) popular votes
President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) - 155 electoral votes and 43,345,169 (43.4%) popular votes
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Varied from state to state - 0 electoral votes and 1,323,368 (1.3%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 22, 2009, 12:34:25 AM
Ran as McCarthy in the 1976 race, focused mainly on AZ and watched the race. After running a strong campaign, McCarthy won AZ in a small margin over Reagan, Wallace fizzled out come election day and Reagan won big in the electorate.

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(R)-Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweicker: 360 EV, 50.5%
(D)-George Wallace/Jerry Brown: 172 EV, 46.3%
(I)-Eugene McCarthy/Varied in States: 6 EV, 3.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 22, 2009, 08:20:44 AM
Ran as McCarthy in the 1976 race, focused mainly on AZ and watched the race. After running a strong campaign, McCarthy won AZ in a small margin over Reagan, Wallace fizzled out come election day and Reagan won big in the electorate.

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(R)-Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweicker: 360 EV, 50.5%
(D)-George Wallace/Jerry Brown: 172 EV, 46.3%
(I)-Eugene McCarthy/Varied in States: 6 EV, 3.2%

Wallace wins Vermont ??? :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 22, 2009, 11:35:07 AM
Ran as McCarthy in the 1976 race, focused mainly on AZ and watched the race. After running a strong campaign, McCarthy won AZ in a small margin over Reagan, Wallace fizzled out come election day and Reagan won big in the electorate.

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(R)-Ronald Reagan/Richard Schweicker: 360 EV, 50.5%
(D)-George Wallace/Jerry Brown: 172 EV, 46.3%
(I)-Eugene McCarthy/Varied in States: 6 EV, 3.2%

Wallace wins Vermont ??? :o
Yeah tell me about it!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 22, 2009, 12:20:40 PM
Played as Anderson to watch how this fight would be in 1984. Fernandez led for most of the campaign but a short time before election day, Jackson began to improve his numbers but that wasn't enough. Ran a strong New England center campaign and won ME, VT and CT. Fernandez would win big over Anderson and Jackson come election day.

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(R)-Ben Fernandez/George H.W. Bush: 354 EV, 50%
(D)-Jesse Jackson/John Glenn: 169 EV, 41.9%
(I)-John Anderson/Patrick Lucey: 15 EV, 8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 22, 2009, 02:52:05 PM
I also ran the 1984 scenario, with the exact same candidates Andy Jackson used. I also played as Anderson. Fernandez led the entire way. I had amazing tunout, and did better that I thought I would do, winning a couple states I didn't even target.

Almost every state in this election was decided by less than 3%. The closest was Maryland, were 20,000 votes seperated first from last.

Fernandez: 59,971,948     36.8%     315 Electoral Votes
Anderson:   60,240,171     36.9%     210 Electoral Votes
Jackson:     42,836,790     26.3%     13 Electoral Votes

(1984 doesn't have a  3rd party, so I have to do the 2008 scenario)

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on June 22, 2009, 03:16:26 PM
No real "result" here, but anyway.

While change08's screenshot of Dukakis endorsing himself is certainly funny, this is more ridiculous....

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:D :D :D :D :D :D

Ah, yes, I know. Gore can be a crusader of Obama, and if he is running against Gore...


Actually, no. Al Gore cannot be a crusader for Obama.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 22, 2009, 04:24:20 PM
Ran as Perot in the 1992 scenario against Bush and Rockefeller. I ran a strong campaign and the election was a mud slinging event as Bush was hammered into third, I clawed my way up in polls to the point and fought with Rockefeller but he still led through out the campaign. On election day, my numbers went up after strong and quick campaigning in the last weeks of the campaign sealed some suprises for me. Rockefeller would still win in a landslide as I took second with Bush at third.

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(D)-Jay Rockefeller/Bob Kerrey: 316 EV, 40.6%
(I)-Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 171 EV, 27.4%
(R)-George H.W. Bush/Pete Wilson: 51 EV, 32%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 23, 2009, 01:42:15 PM
No real "result" here, but anyway.

While change08's screenshot of Dukakis endorsing himself is certainly funny, this is more ridiculous....

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:D :D :D :D :D :D

Ah, yes, I know. Gore can be a crusader of Obama, and if he is running against Gore...


Actually, no. Al Gore cannot be a crusader for Obama.

Or Edwards, don't remember...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 23, 2009, 06:54:07 PM
2012
Wierdest map ever

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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 417 electoral votes and 64,497,370 (52.6%) popular votes
Former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL) - 121 electoral votes and 40,109,425 (32.7%) popular votes
Representative Ron Paul (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 12,116,044 (9.9%) popular votes
Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) - 0 electoral votes and 5,893,870 (4.8%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 24, 2009, 06:11:31 PM
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Huckabee: 48.7% PV (60,567,774) PV, 272 EV
Edwards: 48.7% PV (60,567,270) PV, 266 EV
Barr: 2.4% (2,948,569) PV, 0 EV
Baldwin: 0.1 % (167,367) PV, 0 EV

Nationwide margin: 504 votes; closest state margin: Iowa, 2,568 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 24, 2009, 06:34:36 PM
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Huckabee: 48.7% PV (60,567,774) PV, 272 EV
Edwards: 48.7% PV (60,567,270) PV, 266 EV
Barr: 2.4% (2,948,569) PV, 0 EV
Baldwin: 0.1 % (167,367) PV, 0 EV

Nationwide margin: 504 votes; closest state margin: Iowa, 2,568 votes.

:o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on June 25, 2009, 11:00:39 AM
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Huckabee: 48.7% PV (60,567,774) PV, 272 EV
Edwards: 48.7% PV (60,567,270) PV, 266 EV
Barr: 2.4% (2,948,569) PV, 0 EV
Baldwin: 0.1 % (167,367) PV, 0 EV

Nationwide margin: 504 votes; closest state margin: Iowa, 2,568 votes.

:o

Personally I'm just shocked that there was ever a psuedo-normal-looking map produced using PF.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on June 25, 2009, 11:43:12 AM
By how many votes did Huckabee win Ohio?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 26, 2009, 03:05:08 PM
1984

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Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Representative Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) - 527 Electoral Votes and 48,524,118 (55.1%) Popular Votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 11 Electoral Votes and 35,436,165 (40.2%) Popular Votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,086,127 (4.6%) Popular Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 26, 2009, 09:24:08 PM
Major glitch. I ran as Ruwart. Will only post map, but I received almost 20% of the vote.Romney/Lieberman won the popular vote by 3% over Vislack/Richardson, but lost the electoral vote. Like, 25% were undecided on election day.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on June 26, 2009, 10:14:31 PM
Major glitch. I ran as Ruwart. Will only post map, but I received almost 20% of the vote.Romney/Lieberman won the popular vote by 3% over Vislack/Richardson, but lost the electoral vote. Like, 25% were undecided on election day.

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What version were you playing? Regular or Wonk?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on June 26, 2009, 10:18:53 PM
Major glitch. I ran as Ruwart. Will only post map, but I received almost 20% of the vote.Romney/Lieberman won the popular vote by 3% over Vislack/Richardson, but lost the electoral vote. Like, 25% were undecided on election day.

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God, you won Florida as Ruwart? :O


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 27, 2009, 04:46:10 AM
1984

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Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Representative Geraldine Ferraro (D-NY) - 527 Electoral Votes and 48,524,118 (55.1%) Popular Votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 11 Electoral Votes and 35,436,165 (40.2%) Popular Votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 0 Electoral Votes and 4,086,127 (4.6%) Popular Votes

Great ! :D If only it could be the reality...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 27, 2009, 09:31:04 AM
I was playing Regular.
It was weird, because barnstorming could give you like, +30% sometimes in states, and PAC ads could be -30% or something like that for you.
I didn't even really campaign in Florida. I stopped there once. I spent most of my time in Alaska, but still lost it.
???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on June 27, 2009, 10:33:42 AM
I was playing Regular.
It was weird, because barnstorming could give you like, +30% sometimes in states, and PAC ads could be -30% or something like that for you.
I didn't even really campaign in Florida. I stopped there once. I spent most of my time in Alaska, but still lost it.
???

Hmm... I personally prefer the wonk version because the results seem to be more realistic. Mind you, it's very hard to win as a Republican in that scenario vs. Obama.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 27, 2009, 02:51:38 PM
Ahaha! I accomplished one of my main goals just now: Win with a 3rd party candidate. Granted, it was Perot, but it's still awesome, especially since I blew him out. I trailed in polls the final day, but thanks to lots of footsoldiers, I won almost every state I competed in...

Perot/Stockdale: 73,616,305  40.9%
Bush/Qualye:      67,710,335  37.6%
Clinton/Gore:      38,831,866  21.6%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on June 27, 2009, 05:03:48 PM
Ahaha! I accomplished one of my main goals just now: Win with a 3rd party candidate. Granted, it was Perot, but it's still awesome, especially since I blew him out. I trailed in polls the final day, but thanks to lots of footsoldiers, I won almost every state I competed in...

Perot/Stockdale: 73,616,305  40.9%
Bush/Qualye:      67,710,335  37.6%
Clinton/Gore:      38,831,866  21.6%

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In real life, a Perot win would have taken mostly Bush voters and Clinton would be far ahead of him...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 27, 2009, 08:42:04 PM
Ahaha! I accomplished one of my main goals just now: Win with a 3rd party candidate. Granted, it was Perot, but it's still awesome, especially since I blew him out. I trailed in polls the final day, but thanks to lots of footsoldiers, I won almost every state I competed in...

Perot/Stockdale: 73,616,305  40.9%
Bush/Qualye:      67,710,335  37.6%
Clinton/Gore:      38,831,866  21.6%

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You couldn't by any chance PM me the files for the 92 scenario please? My version only came with 04 and 08 for some reason. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 27, 2009, 08:54:03 PM
No, I couldn't send you the files, since I'm not sure how, and TheorySpark didn't have it. Press the Update button on President Forever, and try getting a newer version. ;)

I know Perot would have taken more Bush votes, but Cuomo ended up endorsing Perot after a long primary battle. So I picked up about 30% of the Democrat vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on June 27, 2009, 09:16:38 PM
I'm gonna re-buy the game soon. So my first  election will be 1992 :)

I'll Be Perot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 30, 2009, 12:43:52 PM
Another play-through of the 2008 Atlas Forever I'm working on with Badnarik.

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(R)-Santiago Drexler: 299 EV 48.5%
(D)-Evan Gutierrez: 239 EV 45.7%
(I)-Connor Flynn: 0 EV 5.2%
(Li)-Michael Badnarik: 0 EV 0.6%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on June 30, 2009, 02:07:20 PM
Am I in your version?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 30, 2009, 02:18:04 PM
I think so.

just to get this out of the way, a list of all who's in my "Atlas Forever 2008" scenario(for now)

Democrats
Ben Constine
Scott Moore
Gael-Malo L'Hermine
Vince Pilar
Jack Polnut
Evan Gutierrez
M.J.P. McShan
Jesse Wedewer
Naveed Chowdhury
Joshua Sanchez

Republicans
Brett Valmont
David Coppersmith
Santiago Drexler
Chris Soult
Isaac Bahney
Daniel Smith
John Smith
Vepres Moratlis

Independent
Connor Flynn

Libertarian
Michael Badnarik


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on June 30, 2009, 04:08:28 PM
I think so.

just to get this out of the way, a list of all who's in my "Atlas Forever 2008" scenario(for now)

Democrats
Ben Constine
Scott Moore
Gal-Male L'Hermine
Vince Pilar
Jack Polnut
Evan Gutierrez
M.J.P. McShan
Jesse Wedewer
Naveed Chowdhury
Joshua Sanchez

Republicans
Brett Valmont
David Coppersmith
Santiago Drexler
Chris Soult
Isaac Bahney
Daniel Smith
John Smith
Vepres Moratlis

Independent
Connor Flynn

Libertarian
Michael Badnarik

Could you post the primary maps next time as well?

Make sure the state percentages are all equal, though give a home state advantage.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 30, 2009, 05:50:46 PM
I think so.

just to get this out of the way, a list of all who's in my "Atlas Forever 2008" scenario(for now)

Democrats
Ben Constine
Scott Moore
Gael-Malo L'Hermine
Vince Pilar
Jack Polnut
Evan Gutierrez
M.J.P. McShan
Jesse Wedewer
Naveed Chowdhury
Joshua Sanchez

Republicans
Brett Valmont
David Coppersmith
Santiago Drexler
Chris Soult
Isaac Bahney
Daniel Smith
John Smith
Vepres Moratlis

Independent
Connor Flynn

Libertarian
Michael Badnarik

Could you post the primary maps next time as well?

Make sure the state percentages are all equal, though give a home state advantage.
Sure to the primary maps and also I already do an equal field and an + for home states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on June 30, 2009, 05:56:25 PM
I think so.

just to get this out of the way, a list of all who's in my "Atlas Forever 2008" scenario(for now)

Democrats
Ben Constine
Scott Moore
Gal-Male L'Hermine
Vince Pilar
Jack Polnut
Evan Gutierrez
M.J.P. McShan
Jesse Wedewer
Naveed Chowdhury
Joshua Sanchez

Republicans
Brett Valmont
David Coppersmith
Santiago Drexler
Chris Soult
Isaac Bahney
Daniel Smith
John Smith
Vepres Moratlis

Independent
Connor Flynn

Libertarian
Michael Badnarik

Could you post the primary maps next time as well?

Make sure the state percentages are all equal, though give a home state advantage.
Sure to the primary maps and also I already do an equal field and an + for home states.

Cool


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on June 30, 2009, 07:00:04 PM
Learn to spell my name, kthx.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on June 30, 2009, 07:21:54 PM
Another play-through of the 2008 Atlas Forever I'm working on with Badnarik.

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(R)-Santiago Drexler: 299 EV 48.5%
(D)-Evan Gutierrez: 239 EV 45.7%
(I)-Connor Flynn: 0 EV 5.2%
(Li)-Michael Badnarik: 0 EV 0.6%



     Yay, I won! :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on June 30, 2009, 10:40:08 PM
sorry about that, changed it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on July 01, 2009, 08:54:22 AM
Run me vs you vs Constine vs L'Hermine and Moraltis vs the two Smiths vs Bahney


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 01, 2009, 10:57:41 AM
Run me vs you vs Constine vs L'Hermine and Moraltis vs the two Smiths vs Bahney

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Bahney*
Moraltis
(D) Smith
(J) Smith

*Isaac Bahney wins at the Convetion easily and chooses Mitt Romney as his VEEP pick.

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Moore
McShan
Constine
L'Hermine*

*After Convention battle, L'Hermine came out of the mix after a battle between Constine. L'Hermine would choose Evan Bayh at the convention.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 01, 2009, 11:15:19 AM
L'Hermine was lagging in polls until the mid of the sixth week of campaigning until Election Day. This closeness continued until Bahney hammered L'Hermine down again and had the Republicans take a fair lead in polls again. Bahney would "Triumph!" in the first debate over L'Hermine, this win plus good press and a strong campaign against L'Hermine, gave Bahney another jump in his lead over the Democrats. Bahney's lead shrank as his campaign came off more and more negative as L'Hermine played up that his campaign was more positive, Bahney's lead shrank to a 48% to 45% the day before election day. The Election was surprisingly close as most of the Democratic wins were very close, this continued until California was left on the map, the state went back and forth for the longest part until it was finally called for L'Hermine, at which then the Presidency was called for L'Hermine. The popular vote was another thing as Bahney easily won it over L'Hermine.

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(D)-L'Hermine/Bayh: 288 EV 47.7%
(R)-Bahney/Romney: 250 EV 50.4%
Others: 0 EV 1.9%  



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 01, 2009, 01:07:44 PM
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Dole/Ridge- 48.9%
Gore/Biden- 47%
Nader- 4.1%

Pennyslvania and California were extremely close, as was Louisiana and New Hampshire.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 01, 2009, 05:00:43 PM
Andy, could you run the same four democrats vs. Moratlis, Bahney, Drexler, and Coppersmith.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 01, 2009, 11:20:39 PM
Andy, could you run the same four democrats vs. Moratlis, Bahney, Drexler, and Coppersmith.
Sure

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Constine
L'Hermine*
Moore

*L'Hermine easily wins at the Convention after Moore dropped out and backed L'Hermine, which pushed him over the edge into the realm of presumptive nominee. Constinue dropped out soon after. L'Hermine would choose Senator Barbara Boxer as his VEEP.

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Moratlis
Bahney*
Coppersmith
Drexler

*After a long struggle, all three remaining candidates were about even in polls but Moratlis fell short in the Convention balloting and threw his backing behind Bahney over Coppersmith. Bahney would then choose Moratlis as his VEEP nominee for his support and to unite the party.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 01, 2009, 11:30:44 PM
The Bahney/Moratlis ticket became the "All Star" ticket in the sense as through out the campaing they led, into the third week, L'Hermine's own homestate, Maine, switched to the Republicans which added even more weight to Bahney's campaign. Bahney triumphed in the debates over L'Hermine and led big. The last week until Election Day, L'Hermine began to gain on Bahney and Moratlis but would it be enough? Bahney and Moratlis won huge as L'Hermine was left in the dust on Election Day.

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(R)-Bahney/Moratlis: 398 EV 52.6%
(D)-L'Hermine/Boxer: 140 EV 46.8%
Others: 0 EV 0.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 02, 2009, 12:29:56 PM
Andy, could you run the same four democrats vs. Moratlis, Bahney, Drexler, and Coppersmith.
Sure

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Constine
L'Hermine*
Moore

*L'Hermine easily wins at the Convention after Moore dropped out and backed L'Hermine, which pushed him over the edge into the realm of presumptive nominee. Constinue dropped out soon after. L'Hermine would choose Senator Barbara Boxer as his VEEP.

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Moratlis
Bahney*
Coppersmith
Drexler

*After a long struggle, all three remaining candidates were about even in polls but Moratlis fell short in the Convention balloting and threw his backing behind Bahney over Coppersmith. Bahney would then choose Moratlis as his VEEP nominee for his support and to unite the party.

I actually won states? Woot!!!

Ha!! I won Okie, NY and CT!!! That would never happen in RL. lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 02, 2009, 12:32:51 PM
Andy, could you run the same four democrats vs. Moratlis, Bahney, Drexler, and Coppersmith.
Sure

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Constine
L'Hermine*
Moore

*L'Hermine easily wins at the Convention after Moore dropped out and backed L'Hermine, which pushed him over the edge into the realm of presumptive nominee. Constinue dropped out soon after. L'Hermine would choose Senator Barbara Boxer as his VEEP.

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Moratlis
Bahney*
Coppersmith
Drexler

*After a long struggle, all three remaining candidates were about even in polls but Moratlis fell short in the Convention balloting and threw his backing behind Bahney over Coppersmith. Bahney would then choose Moratlis as his VEEP nominee for his support and to unite the party.

I actually won states? Woot!!!

Ha!! I won Okie, NY and CT!!! That would never happen in RL. lol
You won New York because that is your home state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 02, 2009, 12:33:55 PM
I know. I was talking about Okie and NY voting for the same person in a GE is impossible.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 02, 2009, 05:03:38 PM
2008 enhanced as Obama

Democratic primary
Green - Senator Obama
Blue - Senator Clinton
Red - Former Senator Edwards
Yellow - Congressman Kucinich
Orange - Senator Dodd

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General election - The Obama/Bayh ticket had a slight lead over the Thompson/Guiliani ticket until the economy collapsed along with the stock markets and the public's patience with the GOP.

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 392 electoral votes and 70,678,744 (54.3%) popular votes
Former Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) - 146 electoral votes and 50,426,421 (38.7%) popular votes
Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Darrell Castle (C-TN) - 0 electoral votes and 5,211,452 (4%) popular votes
Former Representative Bob Barr (L-GA)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 0 electoral votes and 3,964,605 (3%) popular votes

The closest state was Texas with it voting for Senator Thompson by a 0.5% margin. There were some good third party showing including Chuck Baldwin getting 17.9% in Alabama. Both members of the GOP ticket got crushed in their home states with Obama getting over 60% in both Tennessee and New York.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 02, 2009, 11:30:43 PM
Ran as Barr to test my "Schwarzenegger in '08" created scenario. Obama led Schwarzenegger for most of the campaign until it became surprisingly close at the mid point of the fifth week until Election Day. After that, Biden won his VP debate and Obama won all of the debates and campaigned more vigorously against Schwarzenegger and quickly began to distance himself from the Californian Governor in polls. On the last week until Election Day, Schwarzenegger began to make some gains, going up 3 points in polls but Obama still led by a fair margin. On Election Day, Obama won in a landslide but Schwarzenegger would get some suprising results, 44% in his homestate of CA, 48% in MN, about 47% in NH and nearly 45% in ME would all be suprises on Election Night.

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(D)-Obama/Biden: 428 EV 54.8%
(R)-Schwarzenegger/Thune: 110 EV 44.7%
(Li)-Barr/Root: 0 EV 0.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 03, 2009, 01:59:37 PM
Another run through with my "Atlas Forever 2008" scenario.

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(R)-Moratlis/Hagel: 335 EV 49.1%
(D)-Polnut/Kerry: 203 EV 46.1%
(I)-Flynn/Chafee: 0 EV 4.1%
(Li)-Badnarik/Brown: 0 EV 0.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 03, 2009, 03:49:29 PM
*After a long struggle, all three remaining candidates were about even in polls but Moratlis fell short in the Convention balloting and threw his backing behind Bahney over Coppersmith. Bahney would then choose Moratlis as his VEEP nominee for his support and to unite the party.

That's actually what I would do. The game can read minds. :o

Another run through with my "Atlas Forever 2008" scenario.

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(R)-Moratlis/Hagel: 335 EV 49.1%
(D)-Polnut/Kerry: 203 EV 46.1%
(I)-Flynn/Chafee: 0 EV 4.1%
(Li)-Badnarik/Brown: 0 EV 0.7%

This is actually along the lines I would have expected.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 03, 2009, 04:26:12 PM
Quote
That's actually what I would do. The game can read minds.

Wow
I am touched that you would endorse me over Jewishconservative. Thank you, my friend. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 03, 2009, 04:44:59 PM
Another fun test for my Atlas 2008 scenario

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(D)-McShan/Feingold: 387 EV 52.5%
(R)-Coppersmith/Allen: 151 EV 46.3%  
(Li)-Badnarik/Brown: 0 EV 1.2%

Also, anyone have any more requests for my "Atlas 2008" scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 03, 2009, 05:12:20 PM
Do you think you could run Moratlis/Richardon vs. Me/Romney, with Moratlis as a Democrat?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 03, 2009, 06:27:31 PM
2004

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Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 454 electoral votes and 62,498,454 (54.6%) popular votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 84 electoral votes and 48,803,608 (42.6%) popular votes
Other - 0 electoral votes and 3,159,291 (2.7%) popular votes

After an extremely closely run campaign with no clear frontrunner, Senator Kerry easily went onto defeat incumbent President Bush after a surge late in the campaign.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 03, 2009, 08:00:59 PM
Quote
That's actually what I would do. The game can read minds.

Wow
I am touched that you would endorse me over Jewishconservative. Thank you, my friend. :)

I think anybody would pick you over Jewishconservative. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 03, 2009, 08:20:56 PM
Do you think you could run Moratlis/Richardon vs. Me/Romney, with Moratlis as a Democrat?
Sure man.

The campaign began as Governor Bahney ran above Governor Moratlis by one point, though at the 7th week point, Bahney would increase the lead by 2 points. At the 6th week a big gaffe made by Moratlis on Same Sex Marriage, engulf the entire week. After bouncing back, Moratlis and Bahney were even about in polls and a more negative campaign began by the Bahney camp would draw criticism. During the 5th week, polls had Bahney at 42% and Moratlis at 41%, come the VEEP debate, Romney "Triumphed" in the debate over Richardson and as Bahney had done during the first presidential debate as well. Scandal soon enveloped the Moratlis campaign during the 3rd week and brought him down in polls as Bahney slowly increased his lead. Finally though, Moratlis had a payoff as Moratlis won one of presidential debates but the polls remained static. Bahney's campaign began to have scandals of it's own as his lead was at the time at 6 points over Moratlis. The lead up to Election Day had remained about the same, Bahney at 47% and Moratlis at 41%. The final day before Election Day was forecasting a Bahney victory as more of the Democratic states and Colorado seemed to be in Moratlis corner as most to all of the tossup's were in Bahney's corner.

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(R)-Bahney/Romney: 392 EV 53.6%
(D)-Moratlis/Richardson: 146 EV 45.1%
(Li)-Badnarik/Brown: 0 EV 1.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 03, 2009, 08:35:36 PM
Do you think you could run Moratlis/Richardon vs. Me/Romney, with Moratlis as a Democrat?
Sure man.

The campaign began as Governor Bahney ran above Governor Moratlis by one point, though at the 7th week point, Bahney would increase the lead by 2 points. At the 6th week a big gaffe made by Moratlis on Same Sex Marriage, engulf the entire week. After bouncing back, Moratlis and Bahney were even about in polls and a more negative campaign began by the Bahney camp would draw criticism. During the 5th week, polls had Bahney at 42% and Moratlis at 41%, come the VEEP debate, Romney "Triumphed" in the debate over Richardson and as Bahney had done during the first presidential debate as well. Scandal soon enveloped the Moratlis campaign during the 3rd week and brought him down in polls as Bahney slowly increased his lead. Finally though, Moratlis had a payoff as Moratlis won one of presidential debates but the polls remained static. Bahney's campaign began to have scandals of it's own as his lead was at the time at 6 points over Moratlis. The lead up to Election Day had remained about the same, Bahney at 47% and Moratlis at 41%. The final day before Election Day was forecasting a Bahney victory as more of the Democratic states and Colorado seemed to be in Moratlis corner as most to all of the tossup's were in Bahney's corner.

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(R)-Bahney/Romney: 392 EV 53.6%
(D)-Moratlis/Richardson: 146 EV 45.1%
(Li)-Badnarik/Brown: 0 EV 1.3%

Well, at least I won my home state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 03, 2009, 08:40:59 PM
Can you run me in a general election against L'Hermine?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 03, 2009, 11:04:09 PM
Can you run me in a general election against L'Hermine?
Sure.

L'Hermine and Coppersmith were about even, L'Hermine with a two point lead but quickly ramping up his campaign, L'Hermine would be crowned with "The Big Mo'" soon in the 7th week. Through out the 6th week, L'Hermine and Coppersmith traded "Good" and "Lackluster" appearances in the media as the polls slowly shifted a little bit more for L'Hermine. The 5th week was one the began to draw blood as both L'Hermine and Coppersmith released "Controversial" attacks on each other as Coppersmith would then try and release another volley of attacks on L'Hermine but would back fire on him a little. The polls showed L'Hermine at 42% and Coppersmith at 39% but in a suprise, the presidential debate was called as a draw between the two candidates. The 4th week had Coppersmith begin to loose some ground as L'Hermine campaign took a sharp negative turn, even more so as scandal erupted on the Coppersmith campaign. The 3rd debate had another victory for L'Hermine as he won the next presidential debate and would "triumph" in the next debate, with that polls showed L'Hermine at 43% and Coppersmith at 38%. The 2nd week brought scandal to the L'Hermine camp as the media began to question the ever growing negative tone of the L'Hermine campaign. With all of this the polls would then show L'Hermine at 42% and Coppersmith at 38%. At the very end of the 1st week, scandal erupted again with the L'Hermine campaign as they entered the drawdown to Election Day. The day before election day, the polls showed L'Hermine with 43.5% and Coppersmith with 38.3%. The Election would turn into a blowout for the Democrats and L'Hermine as one of the suprises came after a long and bitter battle seemed to happen in WI of all states as Coppersmith barley carried the state.

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(D)-L'Hermine/Clark: 428 EV 54.1%
(R)-Coppersmith/Owens: 110 EV 44.8%
(Li)-Badnarik/Brown: 0 EV 1.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 04, 2009, 12:55:56 PM
2008 enhanced as Obama

Primaries

In early December, Senator Clinton's campaign completely collapsed as Senator Obama sailed into the lead due to the momentum from his speech at the Jefferson-Jackson dinner coupled with Bill Clinton getting overly negative in South Carolina. Barack Obama was declared the presumptive nominee on March 4th after easily winning the Ohio and Texas (aswell as Vermont and Rhode Island) primaries. Senator Clinton then agreed to become Obama's running mate on March 17th after losing the Wisconsin primary yet winning an extremely close Hawaii primary.

A close Republican primary went on through the summer between Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Ron Paul and John McCain. Giuliani limped over the majority delegate mark after he recieved the endorsement of Senator McCain. Mayor Guiliani went onto select Senator John Thune of South Dakota as his running mate.

Democratic Primary map
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Green - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Yellow - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Grey - Senator Obama wins by default due to Clinton becoming his running mate


General election

Obama consistently held a solid lead in the polls throughout the campaign, never once falling below the 270 electoral vote threshold, until the financial crisis hit and a solid lead became a commanding lead and nearly all the swing states fell into the Obama column. Senator Obama ran a brilliant campaign, receiving all newspaper endorsements from the left and right wing aswell as the endorsement of the Republican National Committee on September 14th. Barack Obama won all 3 of the debates, including the first and last in which he "triumphed" and Senator Thune won the vice-presidential debate.

Mayor Guiliani's campaign continuted to collapse with no good news for the Guiliani/Thune ticket. The election was called for now-President Elect Obama at 9pm with the polls closing in the central time zone.

General election map
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 439 electoral votes and 73,615,476 (56.5%) popular votes
Former Mayor Rudy Guiliani (R-NY)/Senator John Thune (R-SD) - 99 electoral votes and 45,246,426 (34.8%) popular votes
Others - 0 electoral votes and 11,320,192 (8.7%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 05, 2009, 08:13:54 AM
General election map
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 439 electoral votes and 73,615,476 (56.5%) popular votes
Former Mayor Rudy Guiliani (R-NY)/Senator John Thune (R-SD) - 99 electoral votes and 45,246,426 (34.8%) popular votes
Others - 0 electoral votes and 11,320,192 (8.7%) popular votes

Winnig so many states with so few popular votes is a Goldwater-esque performance for Giuliani.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 06, 2009, 10:17:13 AM
After Bayh easily beat Biden and Richardon in the primaries, he moved on to face Romney, who narrowly defeated Giuliani. Bayh had the momentum from the get go, and never looked back. Though Romney won all 3 debates, and Giuliani beat Clinton in the Vice Debate, Romney never got on track, and it ended up being an easy Bayh win.

Bayh/Clinton: 113,545,584          58.1%  436 Electoral Votes
Romney/Giuliani: 81,768,721       41.9% 102 Electoral Votes

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 06, 2009, 02:15:42 PM
I just did the most amazing thing on President Forever.
So I ran as Hatch in 2000. I made Romney his VP. They faced off against Gore and Nader.

Popular Vote;
Hatch- 48.6%
Gore- 48.7%
Nader- 2.7%

So, like in RL, Gore wins the Popular Vote.
The Map:
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Just like RL 2000, percentages and everything, minus New York.
Okay, now, Hatch won Florida by about 30,000 votes, but let's take a close look at New Mexico. Though it wouldn't sway the election...
Hatch- 612,803
Gore- 612,804
Nader- 51,066
:o
Don't beleieve me?
()


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 06, 2009, 02:16:33 PM
2008

After increasing his lead week after week from the beginning the the general election, Al Gore easily triumphed against Mike Huckabee to become the 44th President of the United States (even after running out of funds a week away from the election).

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Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 436 electoral votes and 68,242,246 (57.6%) popular votes
Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 102 electoral votes and 46,780,455 (39.5%) popular votes
Other - 2.9% of the popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 06, 2009, 02:19:54 PM
After Bayh easily beat Biden and Richardon in the primaries, he moved on to face Romney, who narrowly defeated Giuliani. Bayh had the momentum from the get go, and never looked back. Though Romney won all 3 debates, and Giuliani beat Clinton in the Vice Debate, Romney never got on track, and it ended up being an easy Bayh win.

Bayh/Clinton: 113,545,584          58.1%  436 Electoral Votes
Romney/Giuliani: 81,768,721       41.9% 102 Electoral Votes

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How did you get turn out like that? :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 06, 2009, 02:26:43 PM
After Bayh easily beat Biden and Richardon in the primaries, he moved on to face Romney, who narrowly defeated Giuliani. Bayh had the momentum from the get go, and never looked back. Though Romney won all 3 debates, and Giuliani beat Clinton in the Vice Debate, Romney never got on track, and it ended up being an easy Bayh win.

Bayh/Clinton: 113,545,584          58.1%  436 Electoral Votes
Romney/Giuliani: 81,768,721       41.9% 102 Electoral Votes

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How did you get turn out like that? :o
Well, I started early on Texas. Actually, I ended up getting 59% there. Possibly due to the fact I campaigned a lot more in WA, OR, and the Mideast caused it to be heavy Democrat. I had a large lead, so I just went after lean-Republican states, and got a LOT of footsoldiers.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 06, 2009, 04:19:37 PM
I re-bought the game. Here is  a cool map lol :


David Coppersmith (R-NY) / Evan Bayh (D-IN) vs. Barack Obama (D-IL) /  Bill Richardson (D-NM)

I was Coppersmith, and actually made NY Contestable.

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Coppersmith /Bayh : 271
Obama /Richardson : 267

My best states :

Oklahoma : 73%
Georgia : 68.9%
North Carolina : 68.5%
North Dakota : 61%
Utah : 60.9%

My worst States :


Vermont : 11%
Hawaii : 18.8%
Illinois : 23.86%


Closest states :

New York : 49.8%-49.5%
Ohio : 50%-49%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 06, 2009, 05:23:34 PM
I just did the most amazing thing on President Forever.
So I ran as Hatch in 2000. I made Romney his VP. They faced off against Gore and Nader.

Popular Vote;
Hatch- 48.6%
Gore- 48.7%
Nader- 2.7%

So, like in RL, Gore wins the Popular Vote.
The Map:
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Just like RL 2000, percentages and everything, minus New York.
Okay, now, Hatch won Florida by about 30,000 votes, but let's take a close look at New Mexico. Though it wouldn't sway the election...
Hatch- 612,803
Gore- 612,804
Nader- 51,066
:o
Don't beleieve me?
()

Just great. :o


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 17, 2009, 05:07:03 PM
Ran as Obama in 2008. Primaries were difficult, but I controlled things after Super Tuesday. Obama chose Sebelius as his VP, and Giuliani chose Mark Sanford (lol) I was behind a lot early, but after the economic fiasco, I ended up taking over the week before the election.

Didn't do as well as Obamain RL, but I still did allright.

Obama-51.1%
Giuliani-47.8%
Ruwart- .6%
Baldwin- .5%

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Closest States: Virginia, Louisiana, North Carolina, Alaska



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on July 18, 2009, 06:35:26 AM
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Edwards v. Gingrich, with myself as Edwards.

It's the first time I've ever played this game, and I did horribly as you can see :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 18, 2009, 06:55:46 AM
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Edwards v. Gingrich, with myself as Edwards.

It's the first time I've ever played this game, and I did horribly as you can see :P

Yeah, it's a little difficult to figure out at first, certainly the primaries, but you'll figure it out after a while.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on July 18, 2009, 07:33:03 AM
I just played as Badnarik in a Kerry/Allen/Badnarik race, and managed to pull off 9% of the popular vote nation-wide. Better than I was expecting, and I even managed to come in with 31% of the vote in New York. It's such fun to play as a third party instead of the main parties. (Allen won, however.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 18, 2009, 07:56:29 AM
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Edwards v. Gingrich, with myself as Edwards.

It's the first time I've ever played this game, and I did horribly as you can see :P

You should maybe chose the "easy" mode in this case. I managed to win with 54% in my first time so.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 18, 2009, 11:18:54 AM
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Fred Thompson / Joe Lieberman (R) : 275
Al Gore / John Kerry (D) : 263


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 18, 2009, 11:50:15 AM
2008 enhanced

Primaries - Obama Vs. Clinton
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Green - Senator Barack Obama
Red - Senator Hillary Clinton
Grey - Senator Obama wins by default due to Senator Clinton's concession


General
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 416 electoral votes and 74,644,262 (57.2%) popular votes
Representative Ron Paul (R-TX)/Former Mayor Rudy Guiliani (R-NY) - 122 electoral votes and 49,209,814 (37.7%) popular votes
Others (Root, Badnarik) - 0 electoral votes and 6,555,755 (5.0%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on July 18, 2009, 04:59:17 PM
I played as Ralph Nader in 2004, and watched things unfold:

I my mind, George W. Bush decides not to run for a second term, Dick Cheney also declines to run. Colin Powell destroyed Lincoln Chaffee in the Republican primaries, winning every state.

The Democratic Primaries were between Howard Dean and John Edwards, at the start, Dean had a small lead over Edwards, but soon Edwards took the lead, and took a comfortable win.

At the Convention, Powell chose Chaffe as his running mate and Edwards chose Tom Vilsack.

During the entire campaign, Powell was winning by a landslide in the polls, and Edwards was never winning more than five states.  Edwards won every debate, but this didn't affect Powell numbers.

And on election day, Colin Powell won in the largest landslide since 1820, and was projected the President-elect at 8:35 PM.
Colin Powell/Lincoln Chaffee - 535 electoral votes, and 59,513,528 (61.4%) popular votes
John Edwards/Tom Vilsack - 3 electoral votes, and 36,369,665 (37.9%) popular votes
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Edwards also barley carried Washington, DC:

Edwards-106,436 50.4%
Powell-103,556 49%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 18, 2009, 05:12:23 PM
Wow.. when i wanted Edwards to win he gets crushed in a 50 state landslide. I hate Chaffee and Powell


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on July 18, 2009, 06:12:56 PM
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Now that I know what I'm doing, I did an Edwards v. Gingrich rematch, and barely won 281-257. Gingrich narrowly carried Oregon with 7000, and Tennessee by 20,000 or so. Edwards narrowly held onto California, by about 1.5%, and carried Connecticut with less than 2000 votes. A screwy map, but I'm glad I finally won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: k-onmmunist on July 18, 2009, 06:28:29 PM
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Now that I know what I'm doing, I did an Edwards v. Gingrich rematch, and barely won 281-257. Gingrich narrowly carried Oregon with 7000, and Tennessee by 20,000 or so. Edwards narrowly held onto California, by about 1.5%, and carried Connecticut with less than 2000 votes. A screwy map, but I'm glad I finally won.

I still find it hilarious you lost Hawaii :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 19, 2009, 11:07:36 AM
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Now that I know what I'm doing, I did an Edwards v. Gingrich rematch, and barely won 281-257. Gingrich narrowly carried Oregon with 7000, and Tennessee by 20,000 or so. Edwards narrowly held onto California, by about 1.5%, and carried Connecticut with less than 2000 votes. A screwy map, but I'm glad I finally won.

I still find it hilarious you lost Hawaii :P

I find it hilarious how the 08 scenario is based so much off the 04 numbers. (I.E. California and Hawaii can easily fall into the swing column and Indiana is almost as red as Wyoming and Idaho.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 19, 2009, 01:34:50 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 459 electoral votes and 76,040,592 (57.9%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 79 electoral votes and 52,804,910 (40.2%) popular votes
Others (Barr, Baldwin) - 0 electoral votes and 2,482,797 (1.9%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 19, 2009, 05:03:47 PM
Edwards also barley carried Washington, DC:

Edwards-106,436 50.4%
Powell-103,556 49%


:o...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 19, 2009, 06:10:26 PM
2012

Democratic Primaries
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Red - President Obama
Green - Senator Warner
Grey - President Obama wins by default due to Senator Warner's consession


General Election
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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) - 491 electoral votes and 68,649,588 (56.0%) popular votes
Senator Charlie Crist (R-FL)/Former Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) - 47 electoral votes and 36,439,833 (29.7%) popular votes
Other (Ron Paul, Michael Peroutka) - 0 electoral votes and 17,489,597 (14.3%) popular votes

Paul out polled Crist in Massachusetts (by 0.4%) and Missouri (by 8.1%).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 19, 2009, 06:48:21 PM
Beating Obama in 2012 is nearly impossible. I'm like, 20 points behind him now, and I normally easily win on President Forever. And, it's on EASY.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 19, 2009, 07:22:57 PM
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Now that I know what I'm doing, I did an Edwards v. Gingrich rematch, and barely won 281-257. Gingrich narrowly carried Oregon with 7000, and Tennessee by 20,000 or so. Edwards narrowly held onto California, by about 1.5%, and carried Connecticut with less than 2000 votes. A screwy map, but I'm glad I finally won.

I still find it hilarious you lost Hawaii :P

I find it hilarious how the 08 scenario is based so much off the 04 numbers. (I.E. California and Hawaii can easily fall into the swing column and Indiana is almost as red as Wyoming and Idaho.)

Do you have the wonk version, it's far more accurate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on July 19, 2009, 07:39:36 PM
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Now that I know what I'm doing, I did an Edwards v. Gingrich rematch, and barely won 281-257. Gingrich narrowly carried Oregon with 7000, and Tennessee by 20,000 or so. Edwards narrowly held onto California, by about 1.5%, and carried Connecticut with less than 2000 votes. A screwy map, but I'm glad I finally won.

I still find it hilarious you lost Hawaii :P

I find it hilarious how the 08 scenario is based so much off the 04 numbers. (I.E. California and Hawaii can easily fall into the swing column and Indiana is almost as red as Wyoming and Idaho.)

That's because it was, in November 2007.

California and Hawaii are less excusable.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 19, 2009, 09:56:12 PM
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Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / John Edwards (D-NC) : 318
David Coppersmith (R-NC) / Joe Lieberman (I-CT) : 220


I lost my homestate by 34 votes. I barely carried most of the Clinton Southern states and shockingly win big in WV.

IDK What happened in " Hillary Safe" Wisconsin. I won it by 8 points?

Oh.. and I won Texas by a slim marign of one point 50-49


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 20, 2009, 09:44:57 AM
2008 enhanced

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Representative Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)/General Wesley Clark (D-AR) - 460 electoral votes and 76,938,563 (58.6%) popular votes
Representative Ron Paul (R-TX)/Former Director of the Office of Management and Budget Rob Portman (R-OH) - 78 electoral votes and 51,256,364 (39.0%) popular votes
Others (Bob Barr (L-GA) and Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)) - 0 electoral votes and 3,130,079 (2.4%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 20, 2009, 10:51:57 AM
I ran as Romney in 2012.

Romney/Allen: 53.6% 398 Electoral Votes
Warner/Richardson: 46.4% 140 Electoral Votes

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Closest States: Tennessee, California, Minnesota, New Jersey


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 20, 2009, 11:06:07 AM
I ran as Romney in 2012.

Romney/Allen: 53.6% 398 Electoral Votes
Warner/Richardson: 46.4% 140 Electoral Votes

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Closest States: Tennessee, California, Minnesota, New Jersey

lol at Tennessee just randomly going red.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 20, 2009, 12:31:26 PM
Here are some more elections


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John Edwards (NC) / Barack Obama (IL) : 333 (37%)
John McCain (AZ) / Mitt Romney (MA) : 134 (30%)
David Coppersmith (NC) / Sarah Palin (AK) : 71 (33%)

I ran myself as a Constitution Party member, and created a file for Palin as a VP pick in the Constitution party.

McCain led Edwards big after winning  the nomination. But During the primaries I dug into deep GOP States and gained ground. I made a couple of ADs, spun alot scandels on McCain, and spent myself into debt while campaigning in Wyoming.

The only states I was sure I'd carry were Wyoming and Florida, but I carried a few more.

My Best states :

Wyoming : 43.87%
Florida : 38.98%
Kentucky : 39.93%
Oklahoma : 39.23%
Arkansas : 36.34%
Missouri : 37.55%
Colorado : 37.02% (Won by less than 100 votes, beat Obama here)
Texas : 38.88%

Worst states :

Idaho : 12.56%
Utah : 21.96%


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And here's a re-match version : (Just finished this one today!)

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David Coppersmith (NC) / Sarah Palin (AK) : 38% (199 EVs)
Barack Obama (IL) / Bill Richardson (NM) : 31% (196 EVs)
Mitt Romney (MA) / Fred Thompson (TN) : 31% (143 EVs)

Unfortunately Obama won through the congress.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 20, 2009, 03:27:07 PM
Just spacebar'd through 2012 as Badnarik and Obama got Gore'd.

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President Obama - 264 EVs and 43.4% PV
Governor Huckabee - 274 EVs and 41.1% PV
Congressman Paul (Libertarian) - 12.3% PV
Michael Badnarik (Me) - 3.2% PV

The election came down to Oklahoma, Oregon or Pennsylvania and BTW Huckabee had -10.1 momentum on election day :|


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 20, 2009, 04:19:24 PM
Conservative third party fails to stop Moderate  Victory!

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John McCain (AZ) / Joe Lieberman (CT) : 285 (49%)
David Coppersmith (NC) / Mike Huckabee (AR) : 130 ( 30%)
Barack Obama (IL) / Chuck Hagel (NE) :123 (21%)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 20, 2009, 05:20:22 PM
Conservative third party fails to stop Moderate  Victory!

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John McCain (AZ) / Joe Lieberman (CT) : 285 (49%)
David Coppersmith (NC) / Mike Huckabee (AR) : 130 ( 30%)
Barack Obama (IL) / Chuck Hagel (NE) :123 (21%)



How do you make your own scenario like that?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on July 20, 2009, 05:24:31 PM
Conservative third party fails to stop Moderate  Victory!

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John McCain (AZ) / Joe Lieberman (CT) : 285 (49%)
David Coppersmith (NC) / Mike Huckabee (AR) : 130 ( 30%)
Barack Obama (IL) / Chuck Hagel (NE) :123 (21%)



How do you make your own scenario like that?

I just make my guy a third party candidate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 21, 2009, 10:17:15 AM
Ran McCain as the Democratic Candidate and Obama as the Republican to see what would happen.

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(D)-John McCain/Russ Feingold: 488 EV 57.9%
(R)-Barack Obama/Sarah Palin: 50 EV 41.6%
Other: 0 EV 0.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 21, 2009, 10:33:30 AM
Ran McCain as the Democratic Candidate and Obama as the Republican to see what would happen.

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(D)-John McCain/Russ Feingold: 488 EV 57.9%
(R)-Barack Obama/Sarah Palin: 50 EV 41.6%
Other: 0 EV 0.5%

:D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 21, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
2008 with historical candidates

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Kennedy/Johnson - 421 EVs/39.2%
Roosevelt/Fairbanks - 78 EVs/27.5%
Washington/Adams - 39 EVs/18.5%
Jefferson/Burr - 8.4%
Tyler/Harrison - 6.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 23, 2009, 04:51:30 PM
I ran as Cuomo in 1992, with no Perot. I've been trailing the entire campaign, but it has closed from 6 points to 3.

Map on Election Day:
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Cuomo Wins
Final Results:
Cuomo/Richards: 49.1%
Bush/Qualye: 50.9%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 23, 2009, 11:47:39 PM
Ran a modified "Atlas Forever 2008" as Badnarik to see what would happen.

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(R)Brett Valmont/Jeb Bush: 380 EV 46%
(D)Jesse Wedewer/Wesley Clark: 158 EV 42.6%
(SL)Evan Gutierrez/Bernard Sanders: 0 EV 5.4%
(I)Connor Flynn/Lincoln Chafee: 0 EV 5.1%
(Li)Michael Badnarik/Lance Brown: 0 EV 0.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 24, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
UK Presidential election, 2010 scenario

This is a scenario from the P4E site which is set in the UK and it consists of the queen suddenly dying and a republic being established so that the countries first even presidential election is required. Like in the United States, the president is elected by an electoral college made up of electors, who are chosen by the votes of the people. The country is split into 25 areas and each area is assigned an amount of electors, proportional to that areas population. The candidate to obtain 183 electoral votes, a majority, is elected the President of the United Kingdom.

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Candidates are listed with their party in brackets followed by the latest area that the candidate has represented, be it a council ward, parlimentary constituency or European constituency. If the candidate has never held an elected position, only the party is listed.

Tony Blair MP (Labour-Sedgefield)/Jack Straw MP (Labour-Blackburn) - 222 electoral votes and 36.0% of the popular vote
Michael Howard MP (Conservative-Folkestone & Hythe)/David Davis MP (Conservative-Haltemprice & Howden) - 91 electoral votes and 29.2% of the popular vote
Paddy Ashdown MP (Liberal Democrat-Yeovil)/Brian Paddick (Liberal Democrat) - 49 electoral votes and 18.5% of the popular vote
Nick Griffin MEP (BNP-North West)/Mark Collett (BNP) - 4.9% of the popular vote
Nigel Farage MEP (UKIP-South East)/Mike Nattrass MEP (UKIP-West Midlands) - 4.8% of the popular vote
Siân Berry (Green)/Jenny Jones (Green-London) - 4.2% of the popular vote
George Galloway (Respect-Bethnal Green and Bow)/Salma Yaqoob (Respect-Sparkbrook, Birmingham City) - 2.4% of the popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 25, 2009, 07:13:03 PM
Not exactly sure what happened, as the Democrats usually make a good comeback after having finished in the primaries. Anyway, Bush almost loses the electoral vote, thanks to a narrow victory in Idaho for Perot, and a 300 vote win for Bush in Alaska

Idaho
Cuomo: 106,637 22.8%
Bush: 180,447 38.6%
Perot: 180,831 38.6%

Alaska
Cuomo: 60,260 23.2%
Bush: 99,623 38.4%
Perot: 99,363 38.3%

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George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/George V. Voinovich (R-OH) 41,636,115 38.2%/271 Electoral
Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Bill Clinton (D-AK) 38,930,041 35.7%/235 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/Pat Choate (I-TX) 28,533,028 26.2%/32 Electoral




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 26, 2009, 05:22:26 PM
If anyone asks, I'll explain what happened.

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Ralph Nader (Green) 38,001,047 35.2%/302 Electoral
Al Gore (Democratic) 35,747,553 33.1%/126 Electoral
George W. Bush (Republican) 34,088,095/110 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 26, 2009, 05:29:12 PM
What happened?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 26, 2009, 05:31:26 PM
Either the game malfunctioned, or you rigged it for Nader to win (Increasing funding, raising PIP's, raising state %'s).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 26, 2009, 07:30:03 PM
2008

Democratic primaries
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Red - Barack Obama
Blue - Hillary Clinton

Republican primaries
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Blue - Mike Huckabee
Red - Rudy Giuliani
Green - Mitt Romney
Yellow - Newt Gingrich
Orange - John McCain
Lime Green - George Allen (Missouri and Louisiana)
Grey - Fred Thompson
White - Governor Huckabee wins by default due to other the candidate's withdrawal.


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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) - 472 electoral votes and 61,275,483 (51.8%) popular votes
Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AK)/Former Senator Bill Frist (R-TN) - 66 electoral votes and 44,071,587 (37.3%) popular votes
Others (Badnarik, Peroutka) - 12,942,287 (11.0%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 26, 2009, 09:11:08 PM
Either the game malfunctioned, or you rigged it for Nader to win (Increasing funding, raising PIP's, raising state %'s).
I raised Nader's funds from about $100,000 to a $1,000,000, nothing else. I hadn't even planned for that result. My strategy was to quickly beef up my campaign organization, after which I would begin campaigning in New England, being Nader's strongest showing in the actual election. However, the crusaders and footsoldiers gave me a steady flow of momentum, and then came lots, and I mean LOTS, of interviews, to the point that they were coming each day. Started to rise in the polls, and the money allowed me to run the occasional add, possibly once every 8 weeks. After I began to poll really well in New England, I started to give attention to the West Coast and the Midwest. In the end though, it was the mudslinging between Bush and Gore that allowed me to win. Both consitently were at negative momentum, that only allowed me to keep peeling away at their voters. The West was unexpected, and only came into play due to the massive amount of undecided people there. Footsoldiers were crucial in carrying some of the close states like Indiana and Pennslyvania, but the failed me in New York.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 27, 2009, 07:08:04 PM
A deadlocked convention for the Democratic Party between Cuomo and Clinton harmed their chances in the election, especially when Clinton had won the popular vote in the primaries. Clinton had also been ahead in the delegate count, but Gephardt's delegates trended strongly for Cuomo, giving him the nomination. Depending on fundraising rather than goverment funds, I was able to keep going after Cuomo's campaign ran out of funds. A massive amount of scandals thrown out by Cuomo and Perot almost derailed my campaign, but a large last minute ad campaign was enough to negate the effects, and then gave me a small momentum boost going into election day. Footsoldiers were able to capture state that were polling Democratic, like New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Massachusetts.

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George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 46,573,797 42.3%/531 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-IL) 26,773,199 24.3%/4 Electoral
Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Max Baucus  (D-MT) 36,749,868 33.4%/3 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on July 27, 2009, 09:32:02 PM
Al Gore/John Kerry v. Dan Quayle/Dick Cheney v. Nader/LaDuke v. Buchanan/Foster (me)

Polls stayed close between Gore and Quayle during the entire campaign, but Gore always had a lead of 2-3 points. Gore won the first and third debates, with the second as a draw, and Kerry won the VP debate. Come election day, Gore pulled off a comfortable victory over Quayle, 
receiving only 16 fewer electoral votes than Clinton in 1996.

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Gore/Kerry-54,900,445 (50.9%) & 363 electoral votes
Quayle/Cheney-49,186,098 (45.6%) & 175 electoral votes
Nader/La Duke-3,093,003 (2.9%)
Buchanan/Foster-633,994 (0.6%)

Strangely, Quayle carried Indianan 51 % to 48%! Most of the south was very close. I was very happy with Georgia only going to Quayle by five points! It was neck and neck for most of the night, and Gore lead there many times! :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 27, 2009, 09:47:00 PM
This should make your head spin. I played as John Connally in 1980, and managed to defeat Ronald Reagan for the nomination; however, he refused to drop out, which resulted in me being 20 points behind Carter in the general election. Running ads against Carter's Leadership, as well as concentrating on winning the endorsements brought me from being competitive only in Texas, to being on par with Carter. However, once I ran out of money, and the footsoldiers disbanded, Carter once again gained a 4 point lead. A last minute advertizing blitz was made, but at that point I though I was still going to lose, as I was now down by 6. The results suprised me.

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There were still about 11% undecided by election day, which apparently went my way after my last hurrah. All of the Light-Colored States were within 2%

John Connally (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 41,958,366 51.5%/368 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Dale Bumpers (D-AK) 39,456,564 48.5%/170 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 28, 2009, 02:25:48 PM
Played as Steve Forbes in the 2000 scenario. Using his warchest almost entirely in ads, I was able to become the frontrunner over both McCain and Bush. They were both reluctent to leave, however, and did not until the primaries were over. I had collected enough fund to remain with fundraising, and was already 10 points ahead in the polls of Gore when the general election started, and that never lessened. A Three-Day ad campaign in the last days, combined with three scandals being released on Gore destroyed any remaining chance he had.

Nader did have a bright spot though. Somehow, either the game glitched, or he managed to kick me and Gore off the ballot in New Mexico. Anyway, all the attempts I made to regain traction in that state failed. Here are the results.

New Mexico
Nader 673,511 95.9%
Gore 28,659 4.1%
Forbes 0 0%

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All the light colored states were won within 2% of the runnerup.

Steve Forbes (R-NY)/John Engler (R-MI) 62,282,255 57.7%/515 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 41,090,480 38.1%/18 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-WN) 4,536,384 4.2%/5 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Marokai Backbeat on July 28, 2009, 02:28:02 PM
Weird glitch. ???


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 28, 2009, 03:53:07 PM
Played as John Edwards in 2004, starting in the general election. Use of footsoldiers and endorsements allowed me to crawl ahead in the polls. What really gave me my victory was a massive media blitz in the last three days going into election day.

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Light Colored States are within 2% of the runnerup.

John Edwards (D-NC)/John Kerry (D-MA) 55,940,103 55.9%/422 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 44,135,480 44.1%/116 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 28, 2009, 06:11:42 PM
2008 (enhanced)

Democratic primaries
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Red - Senator Obama (D-IL)
Blue - Senator Clinton (D-NY)
Orange/Brown - Governor Vilsack (D-IA)
White - Senator Obama wins by default due to other candidates withdrawal and Senator Clinton become Obama's running mate


Republican primaries
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Yellow - Representive Paul (R-TX)
Blue - Senator McCain (R-AZ)
Red - Governor Huckabee (R-AR)
Orange - Senator Thompson (R-TN)
Green - Mayor Giuliani (R-NY)


General Election
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 403 electoral votes and 70,814,793 (54.3%) popular votes
Representative Ron Paul (R-TX)/Former Governor Mitt Romney (D-MA) - 135 electoral votes and 51,458,984 (39.5%) popular votes
Others (Ruwart, Baldwin) - 8,123,010 (6.3%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 28, 2009, 07:05:14 PM
Played as Al Gore in the 2000 scenario, starting in the general election. Simply played off Bush's unpopular views on Nation-Building, footsoldiers, and ads. A two-day ad blitz, combined with two massive scandals put the final nail in the coffin.

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Light Colored States are within 3% of the runnerup.

Texas was actually unexpected. For a long time I was behind, and even on election day, polls showed Bush leading 55-41. For a while, I thought I might capture the state, but it eventually fell back into Bush's column.

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 58,633,338 54.4%/390 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 46,156,167 42.8%/148 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,024,045 2.8%/0 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 28, 2009, 07:35:39 PM
2012

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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 535 electoral votes and 76,245,410 (64.2%) popular votes
Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) - 3 electoral votes and 42,519,275 (35.8%) popular votes

That would be the most hilarious Republican ticket ever!



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 28, 2009, 09:56:00 PM
Played the 2000 scenario as Bush, starting with the general election, following a similar strategy as I did with Gore. However, I attacked Gore on Health-Care reform, while centralizing my views a bit in Nation-Building so he could not attack me as well. The campaign went better than expected, despite Cheney doing better in the debates than Bush (he lost all three). Massive media blitz at the end ensured a massive turnout. The only problem I did have was that I never managed to find a scandal on Gore, despite spending 3 weeks researching. Guy was very clean this time around.

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All Lightly Colored States were within 2% of the runnerup.

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 61,328,015 56.9%/472 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 43,010,784 39.9%/66 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,368,490 3.1%/0 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 28, 2009, 11:54:24 PM
Bush v. Lieberman     2004 Election

I played as Lieberman. Lieberman barely won a hotly contested primary. He was far behind all the way, and despite a very effective ad blitz the last week, the results were still poor.

He only won DC, New York, and Rhode Island. The last two were won by less than 2 percent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on July 29, 2009, 07:45:00 AM
2012

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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 535 electoral votes and 76,245,410 (64.2%) popular votes
Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC) - 3 electoral votes and 42,519,275 (35.8%) popular votes

That's not so far from the reality if Palin had run.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 29, 2009, 01:08:32 PM
Played as John Glenn in the 1984 General Election. On election I thought I was going to win, because I had massive momentum, there were a lot of tossup states, and Reagan had a lot of negative momentum. I was surprised by the results.

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Light Colored States are within 2% of the runner up.

What made the defeat even worse was that I had won the Popular Vote by a comfortable margin, despite being destroyed in the electoral vote. I at least had the satisfaction of taking Reagan's home state. This might also be the only election in which the nominee's both lost their home states to their opponent, while the Vice-Nominee's captured theirs.

Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 40,930,579 49.5%/330 Electoral
John  Glenn (D-OH)/Dale Bumpers (D-AK) 41,808,473 50.5%/208 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 29, 2009, 04:39:52 PM
2012 election
Democratic primaries
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President Obama - Red
Senator Warner - Blue

The popular Senator Warner of Virginia challenged the incumbent President Obama to the Democratic Nomination only to be swiftly beaten back on Super Tuesday.


Republican primaries
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Green - Senator Crist
Blue - Governor Romney
Orange - Governor Sanford
Red - Governor Huckabee
Yellow - Governor Palin
Light Teal(?) - Governor Jindal (Louisiana and Rhode Island)
Black - Senator Crist wins by default due to Governor Romney's concession

Romney, the early frontrunner, lost the Republican nomination at the final hurdle. Charlie Crist, who came second in the popular vote, edged out Mitt Romney to the nomination thanks to the endorsements of Governor's Huckabee, Sanford, Jindal and Palin. Can the former Governor and current Junior Senator from Florida beat the incumbent Barack Obama after the pair have become almost bi-partisan allies over the course of Obama's first term?


General Election
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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 440 electoral votes and 69,749,613 (57.1%) popular votes
Senator Charlie Crist (R-FL)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 98 electoral votes and 43,837,451 (35.9%) popular votes
Former Governor Jesse Ventura (L-MN)/Representative Ron Paul (L-TX) - 8,541,759 (7.0%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on July 29, 2009, 09:23:28 PM
Ran as Perot against only Pat Buchanan to see what would happen.

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(R)-Pat Buchanan/Alexander Haig: 528 EV, 68.1%
(I)-Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 10 EV, 31.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on July 29, 2009, 10:13:42 PM
Ran as Perot against only Pat Buchanan to see what would happen.

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(R)-Pat Buchanan/Alexander Haig: 528 EV, 68.1%
(I)-Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 10 EV, 31.9%
Try Perot against the Democrats, it's more interesting that way. Buchanan was very likely to be far ahead of your fundraising rates going into the election. With the Democrats, at least you should be able to take most of the Republican base, and therefore not face that same problem.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on July 30, 2009, 11:55:55 AM
1992 Presidential (No Republicans)

Part I: Democratic Primaries

The Primaries were filled to the brim with candidates. But at the beginning, it seemed like a Clinton-Cuomo fight. After February, the only major candidates left were Clinton, Cuomo, and Jay Rockefeller. Rockefeller started picking up steam, and split the south with Clinton, and Cuomo was unable to catch a majority of delegates.

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Mario Cuomo-1599 Delegates, and 42.1% of the popular vote
Jay Rockefeller-939 Delegates, and 28.4% of the popular vote
Bill Clinton-869 Delegates, and 29.4% of the popular vote

It looked like the Convention battle would be between Cuomo and Rockefeller with Clinton playing as king-maker. But two weeks after the last primaries, Clinton endorsed Rockefeller and dropped out. With all of Clinton's delegates, Rockefeller was the Democratic nominee.

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Jay Rockefeller-1808 Delegates
Mario Cuomo-1599 Delegates

At the Convention, Rockefeller picked Bill Bradley as his running mate and headed into the General election to face Perot/Stockdale.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on July 30, 2009, 12:39:47 PM
Rockefeller had a crushing lead in the polls during the entire election. Perot tried to hold on to he Mountain West, the only region he was winning in, but even there, some states slipped through his fingers. He was also competitive in Maine and New Hampshire.

Rockefeller crushed Perot in all three debates, and Bradley crushed Stockdale. And on election day, the Democrats won in a huge landslide. 

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 Rockefeller/Bradley-505 electoral votes, and 43,707,902 (62.2%) popular votes
Perot/Stockdale-33 electoral votes, and 26,552,157 (37.8%) popular votes




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 30, 2009, 03:25:27 PM
I also ran Perot against Democrats, but I did Clinton and Gore instead as Dem.

Clinton: 56.6%
Perot: 43.4%

Closest States: Texas, Colorado, North Dakota, Florida, New Hampshire

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 30, 2009, 04:55:37 PM
I've just played a scenario which took place in 2008 with Kerry as the incumbent President after beating GWB in 2004. I played as John Kerry.

Kerry, having become unpopular, faced primary challenges from 4 other Democrats with his closest opponent being Former Representative and V.P. nominee Geraldine Ferraro (LOL!) with Governor Ed Rendell and Connecticut Attorney General Richard Blumenthanal in third and fourth place respectively. Blumenthal dropped out early on in the primaries and endorsed Representative Ferraro. Ferraro's picked up some strong momentum after winning alot of the early states (Kerry carried Nevada, Rendell carried South Carolina and Blumenthal carried Michigan). This momentum carried her to some strong wins on Super Tuesday. It seemed like a sure thing that Ferraro would become the Democratic nominee until "Mini Tuesday" in March when Kerry pulled off an unexpected victory in Ohio. Kerry's only other victory following Ohio was in Indiana.  Rendell went on the pick up some heavy momentum, as Ferraro's began to fizzle out, leading him to some strong wins in the final primaries, although he remained in a distant third place. Governor Rendell went onto endorse President Kerry in July, giving Kerry a majority of the delegates making him the Democratic Nominee.

Due to Vice President John Edwards' resignation midway through his term, President Kerry selected Senator Barack Obama as his new running mate. Due to the strongly divided primary battle for the Democrats, Kerry began the general election far behind Governor Mitt Romney (who beat VP Cheney, Sec. Powell, Sec. Rice, Sen. McCain and Gov. Perry in the Republican primary) in the polls, leading in only 8 states. Kerry climbed his way up in the polls until he was tied with the Governor. The weekend before the election, the tied "swing states" were Oregon, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, Missouri, Arkansas and Colorado. President Kerry rested his hopes, once again, on a win in Ohio.


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President John Kerry (D-MA)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 305 electoral votes and 84,125,338 (47.2%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Senator George Allen (R-VA) - 233 electoral votes and 76,719,219 (43.1%) popular votes
Others (Badnarik and Peroutka) - 17,327,298 (9.8%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 31, 2009, 01:28:24 AM
Where might one download the 1992 and 2008 Enhanced scenarios?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 31, 2009, 06:07:57 AM
Where might one download the 1992 and 2008 Enhanced scenarios?

I need the 1992 scenario aswell. I've uploaded the 2008 enhanced scenario for you.

http://rapidshare.com/files/262097432/2008enhancedscenarioP4E.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/262097432/2008enhancedscenarioP4E.zip.html)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 31, 2009, 09:14:30 AM
Well, err, it was there when I got the game. Try updating the game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 31, 2009, 01:55:31 PM
1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:

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Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on July 31, 2009, 02:43:40 PM
1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:

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Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Damn.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on July 31, 2009, 02:44:22 PM
1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:

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Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Damn.

What happened in New York, though?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 31, 2009, 03:56:01 PM
1996 election scenario

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President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) - 489 electoral votes and 66,492,537 (56.0%) popular votes
Former Senator Majority Leader Bob Dole (R-KS)/Governor John Engler (R-MI) - 49 electoral votes and 38,755,063 (32.7%) popular votes
Former Governor Richard Lamm (Reform-CO)/Pat Choate (Reform-DC) - 13,426,569 (11.3%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 31, 2009, 04:52:24 PM
Could I have a link to the 1996 scenario? Or did you create it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 31, 2009, 05:02:39 PM
Could I have a link to the 1996 scenario? Or did you create it?

It's from the theory spark forum.

http://rapidshare.com/files/130381018/United_States_-_1996.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/130381018/United_States_-_1996.zip.html)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 31, 2009, 07:08:56 PM
Could I have a link to the 1996 scenario? Or did you create it?

It's from the theory spark forum.

http://rapidshare.com/files/130381018/United_States_-_1996.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/130381018/United_States_-_1996.zip.html)
Thanks


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 31, 2009, 10:08:53 PM
1980: I ran as George Bush. The whole primary Bush was tied with Reagan in delegates. However, a string of wins in April gave Bush the edge, and he went on to win the nomination.

Carter slaughtered Kennedy, with Kennedy only winning one state.

Due to the primary, Bush was behind the whole time, and never came close to victory. Despite superior debating skills, Bush lost both debates.

Carter wins in a landslide:

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Carter: 45,951,609     56.4%
Bush: 35,463,321     43.6%

Lightly colored states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Damn.

What happened in New York, though?

Bush won by roughly 5%. I think it's because it was a pivotal state in the primaries and so he campaigned there a lot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lief 🗽 on July 31, 2009, 11:28:30 PM
Where might one download the 1992 and 2008 Enhanced scenarios?

I need the 1992 scenario aswell. I've uploaded the 2008 enhanced scenario for you.

http://rapidshare.com/files/262097432/2008enhancedscenarioP4E.zip.html (http://rapidshare.com/files/262097432/2008enhancedscenarioP4E.zip.html)

Thanks! ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on August 01, 2009, 12:37:31 AM
Ran as Lamm in the 1996 Election.

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(D)-Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 366 EV, 49.9%
(R)-George W. Bush/John Danforth: 164 EV, 43.1%
(Re)-Richard Lamm/Pat Choate: 8 EV, 7.0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on August 01, 2009, 01:06:26 AM
A "The Watchmen" based election scenario I created for 1984. (Played as the independent candidate)

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(R)-Richard Nixon/Gerald Ford: 595 EV, 55.8%
(D)-George McGovern/Jerry Brown: 23 EV, 41.9%
Others (Independent): 0 EV, 2.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 01, 2009, 09:35:20 AM
2008 enhanced scenario

Democratic Primaries
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Blue - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Green - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) (I played as Obama in the primaries)
Red - Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)

Just 5 candidates entered their names for the democratic primaries (Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, John Edwards and Russ Feingold). Vice President Gore took an early lead in the delegate count as he won all but one (Florida) of the early primaries leaving Super Tuesday a complete toss up between Senators Clinton and Obama. Gore pulled off some unexpected victories on Super Tuesday leaving him in a strong third place with Senator Clinton in second and Senator Obama far ahead in first, although short of a majority of the delegates. By the time the Montana and South Dakota primaries were over, Senator Obama was leading Hillary in the popular vote almost 2-1, he had 45%, and Vice President Gore was just 2% behind Clinton. Obama, having fallen just 100 delegates short of a majority, requested that Gore withdraw from the race and endorse him, a request which the former Vice President declined. Al Gore endorsed Hillary Clinton in July giving her a slim majority of the delegates. At the convention, the true victor, Barack Obama conceded to Senator Clinton. Many in the party had thought that Clinton would select Obama as her running mate, but she chose Governor Brian Schweitzer of Montana.


Republican Primaries
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Green - Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Blue - Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
Yellow - Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)
Red - Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Orange - Former Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)


General Election
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) - 356 electoral votes and 68,228,572 (52.9%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) - 182 electoral votes and 60,791,721 (47.1%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 01, 2009, 04:03:16 PM
2008 election scenario

Democratic primaries
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 50.8% PV/2098 delegates
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 49.2% PV/2078 delegates


General Election
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 514 electoral votes and 73,872,982 (63.0%) popular votes
Former Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich (R-GA) - 24 electoral votes and 43,315,601 (37.0%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on August 01, 2009, 04:08:56 PM
I played as Anderson in 1980.

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John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on August 01, 2009, 04:50:19 PM
A deadlocked convention for the Democratic Party between Cuomo and Clinton harmed their chances in the election, especially when Clinton had won the popular vote in the primaries. Clinton had also been ahead in the delegate count, but Gephardt's delegates trended strongly for Cuomo, giving him the nomination. Depending on fundraising rather than goverment funds, I was able to keep going after Cuomo's campaign ran out of funds. A massive amount of scandals thrown out by Cuomo and Perot almost derailed my campaign, but a large last minute ad campaign was enough to negate the effects, and then gave me a small momentum boost going into election day. Footsoldiers were able to capture state that were polling Democratic, like New York, Rhode Island, Vermont, and Massachusetts.

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George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 46,573,797 42.3%/531 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-IL) 26,773,199 24.3%/4 Electoral
Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Max Baucus  (D-MT) 36,749,868 33.4%/3 Electoral

Epic F***ing win!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 01, 2009, 10:23:12 PM
I played as Anderson in 1980.

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John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.
How did you get Anderson to win support? That is, if you started in the primaries, then Anderson would have started with 0%, both in the General Election and the primary maps.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on August 01, 2009, 10:25:35 PM
I played as Anderson in 1980.

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John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.
How did you get Anderson to win support? That is, if you started in the primaries, then Anderson would have started with 0%, both in the General Election and the primary maps.

I started in the General election. The main reason was because I wanted the GOP candidate to be someone other than Reagan. But I ran really hard in the Northeast, and used a lot of footsoilders there, in New York I used more than Carter or Connelly!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 01, 2009, 10:39:30 PM
1980 General Election Ford vs Carter 2 Part I

I played as Gerald Ford in a fictitious scenario in which Ronald Reagan decides not to run again for the Presidency, while Ford throws his hat into the ring. All the rest is the same.
1980 Democratic Primaries
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Red=Carter   
Blue=Kennedy
Kennedy was polling ahead, until the Mudd Interview, and the “rally around the flag” regarding the hostages in Iran. Surprisingly, Kennedy held on long into the primaries, until finally dropping out late in the season. He refused to endorse Carter, however. Carter for some reason dropped Mondale from the ticket, bringing in young Governor Daniel Robert “Bob” Graham.      
1980 Republican Primaries
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Green=Ford   
Blue=Bush   
Red=Baker
Playing as Ford, even on hard, I was surprised at the intensity of the primary fight. Bush upset me in almost every state he won, except Massachusetts, and Baker in New Hampshire. Bush refused to drop out, confident in his late primary wins, until only the Utah primary was left. At that point, he finally conceded, having been promised a good position within the Ford administration. At the Convention, Ford would choose Senate Minority Leader Howard Henry Baker Jr. from Tennessee as his running mate.

I post the results of the general election in just a second.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 01, 2009, 10:43:16 PM
I played as Anderson in 1980.

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John Connally/Phil Crane (R): 322 EV, and 38,385,280 (44.2%)
Jimmy Carter/Walter Monalde (D): 216 EV, and 37,789,489 (43%)
John Anderson/Patrick Lucey (I): 0EV, and 11,247,346 (12.8%)

Anderson did really well across the entire country, but his best showing was in Maine with 24.2% of the vote! Texas was the closest:

Carter: 2,431,703 (45.2%)
Connelly: 2,426,301 (45.1%)
Anderson: 562,546 (9.7%)

Connelly was projected the President about half way through the night, but not long after that, Texas got really close, and they took the projection back. He hovered around 269 for the rest of the night, with Carter slowly catching up to him, but then California went, and Connelly won.
How did you get Anderson to win support? That is, if you started in the primaries, then Anderson would have started with 0%, both in the General Election and the primary maps.

I started in the General election. The main reason was because I wanted the GOP candidate to be someone other than Reagan. But I ran really hard in the Northeast, and used a lot of footsoilders there, in New York I used more than Carter or Connelly!
If you look back, I tried to take down Reagan while playing as Connally. The only problem is, Reagan almost always takes the fight to the convention, and in that case it caused me to be far behind Carter. I've never run as Anderson in '80, only in '84. I might try it now that you have. If possible, I'll try manipulating the game so that at 100% support for Anderson in the primaries, he has the same support as he has in the general election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 01, 2009, 10:55:33 PM
1980 General Election Ford vs. Carter Part II

Going into the election, Ford already had a decent lead over Carter. What only made it worse was that Ford had a massive fundraising advantage, had praticed both his issues and debating skills, and was able to appeal to most of the nation. Ford throughout the election all the way to election day was overwhelmingly voted for in the polls, and Carter was only contesting several states. The Ford Campaigns massive media blitz, and the destructive scandals leaked into the press two days before the election only dimmed Carter's electoral hopes. Carter conceded the election to Ford before the results from the Western states started to come in.

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Lightly Colored states were within 2% of the runner up.

Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 45,645,688 56.1% 513 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 35,769,242 43.9% 25 Electoral

Delware was ridiculously close, with the two candidates only split by 97 vote!

Delware
Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Howard Baker (R-TN) 105,510 50%
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 105,413 50%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 02, 2009, 09:28:44 AM
Played as Anderson in the general election. Strategy consisted of nothing more than footsoldiers and the occasional ad. Concentrated almost entirely on the Liberal North and the Pacific Coast, but soem support built up in Texas as well as Florida. I went into election day, thanks to a massive media blitz the day before, with +22 momentum.

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It is hard to say if Anderson cost Reagan the election, or if Reagan would have done worse.

Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 34,352,036 39.1% / 372 Electoral
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 30,772,587 35% / 137 Electoral
John Anderson (I-IL)/Patrick Lucey (I-WI) 22,747,492 25.9% / 29 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 02, 2009, 04:18:58 PM
I played as Perot, this time in the general election rather than starting from the primaries. I thought that I was only going to get into the lower 20's, but I was suprised at how strong Perot really was. Strategy was similar to what I used for Anderson, except I placed the footsoldiers anywhere I thought I had a chance at electoral victories. Despite Clinton winning the electoral and popular vote, Bush won the election in the House.

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Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 37,306,755 35.9% / 225 Electoral
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 36,224,920 34.8% / 187 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 30,512,877 29.3% / 126 Electoral

These were the closest states in the election.

Montana
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 115,218 34.6%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 115,147 34.6%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 102,361 30.8%

Wyoming
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 69,746 36.5%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 68,782 36%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 52,770 27.6%

Utah
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 275,881 38.6%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 271,961 38.1%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 166,738 23.3%

Idaho
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 173,515 40.6%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 170,253 39.9%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 83,335 19.5%

Colorado
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 510,061 36.1%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 505,502 35.8%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 398,363 28.2%

North Dakota
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 96,402 37.1%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 91,429 35.2%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 71,835 27.7%

Oklahoma
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 468,780 36.2%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 455,060 35.1%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 372,451 28.7%

Missouri
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 747,554 34.9%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 725,204 33.8%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 670,863 31.3%

Florida
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 2,009,335 36%
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1,928,501 34.6%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 1,636,075 29.4%

Pennsylvania
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 1,769,662 36.1%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 1,732,791 35.4%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 1,393,507 28.5%

New Hampshire
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) 167,137 36.4%
Bill Clinton (D-AK)/Al Gore (D-TN) 153,375 33.4%
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA) 138,765 30.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on August 02, 2009, 04:47:11 PM
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David Coppersmith (I-NC) / Sarah Palin (I-AK) : 40% (271)

John McCain (R-AZ) / Colin Powell (R-NY) : 39% (145)
Barack Obama (D-IL) / John Edwards (D-NC) : 21% (122)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 02, 2009, 09:50:23 PM
I am not even going to explain this. I played as Reagan, and destroyed Carter in the 1980 election. I was happy until I saw the map of the Obama Victory above. Only Minnesota could possibly have changed hands, but even that never returned to Carter after the first five minutes of ballot counting.

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Light Colored States were within 2% of the runner-up.

Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 50,479,987 62% / 535 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 30,934,943 38% / 3 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on August 02, 2009, 10:07:15 PM
2008 Wonk Edition

I ran myself to see what would happen. I glided to the GOP nomination. Despite losing tons of momentum during the the financial meltdown in September and October, I was still able to get a respectable loss.

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Light states were won by less than a 5% margin.

Obama: 67,089,276     52%      329 EVs
Morton: 61,931,018     48%      209 Evs

My lack of appeal with evangelicals hurt me in the south. I basically spent the whole general election behind, and a lot of my time was spent trying to hold the southern states. I failed in a few, Kentucky and Louisiana, and Mississippi and Alabama were won by <1%. I was surprisingly strong in the more urbanized southern states.  Washington and Oregon were swing states the whole time which was odd.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 03, 2009, 06:35:31 PM
Played as Carter starting in the general election. To be honest, I thought this was going to be difficult, since I was already starting behind in the polls by a significant margin, and Reagan had a high levels in all his stats. Somehow, in some freak accident, or the liberals took over the Republican Party, the RNC endorsed me instead of Reagan. I hadn't been courting them, but the media campaign I was running in order to win the other endorsements might have had something to do with it. Anyway, the campaign was just a simple shrinking of Reagan's base, until he was left with only the West. Even there, it was quite divided. The only state that came close to Reagan east of the Mississippi was New Hampshire.

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Light Colored states were within 2% of the runner-up.

Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 45,275,316 55.7% / 514 Electoral
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 36,062,458 44.3% / 24 Electoral

Close States

Nevada
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 137,082 50.1%
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 136,740 49.9%

North Dakota
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 115,786 50.2%
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 114,680 49.8%

Idaho
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 154,439 50.1%
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 153,684 49.9%

New Mexico
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 213,263 51.1%
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 204,378 48.9%

New Hampshire
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN) 155,832 51.7%
Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 145,730 48.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on August 03, 2009, 09:56:58 PM
I'm still trying to beat Carter in the primaries in 1980 with Kennedy on hard mode. Very hard. I can only image what the general election would be like after the bruising primary.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on August 04, 2009, 10:56:57 AM
In my experience, Carter's virtually unbeatable in the primaries because of the Iran thing.

I know, I've been trying. I'm sure it's possible though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: FloridaRepublican on August 04, 2009, 11:44:30 AM
In my experience, Carter's virtually unbeatable in the primaries because of the Iran thing.

I know, I've been trying. I'm sure it's possible though.

You could nominate God.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on August 04, 2009, 11:00:12 PM
Red: Romney
Blue: Clinton
Gold: Gravel

The election had to go to the House.  Romney had more electoral votes, but Clinton had more popular votes, and since the House is dominated by the Democrats, Clinton becomes President.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on August 04, 2009, 11:39:32 PM
Red: Romney
Blue: Clinton
Gold: Gravel

The election had to go to the House.  Romney had more electoral votes, but Clinton had more popular votes, and since the House is dominated by the Democrats, Clinton becomes President.

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Welcome :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on August 05, 2009, 05:27:37 PM
()

David Coppersmith (R) : 35.34%
(Blue, me)
Mike Bloomberg (I) : 34.77% (green)
David Paterson (D) : 29.89% (red)


played my friend's President forever at his house. He made his own 2010 Governor of NY scenario.

Really, don't ask what happened, WTF at queens....I won queens...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on August 05, 2009, 06:50:22 PM
In the primaries, playing as Libertarian Gravel I can never beat Phillies (I added a bunch of candidates). 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President Mitt on August 05, 2009, 10:02:27 PM
()

David Coppersmith (R) : 35.34%
(Blue, me)
Mike Bloomberg (I) : 34.77% (green)
David Paterson (D) : 29.89% (red)


played my friend's President forever at his house. He made his own 2010 Governor of NY scenario.

Really, don't ask what happened, WTF at queens....I won queens...

TBH, I doubt it's hard to win playing as yourself, a candidate created by, well, you.

I'd be proud Oakvale, thats probably the nicest thing someone has ever said to him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 06, 2009, 05:39:38 AM
()

David Coppersmith (R) : 35.34%
(Blue, me)
Mike Bloomberg (I) : 34.77% (green)
David Paterson (D) : 29.89% (red)


played my friend's President forever at his house. He made his own 2010 Governor of NY scenario.

Really, don't ask what happened, WTF at queens....I won queens...

Didn't know there were gubernatorial P4E versions.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 06, 2009, 08:49:10 AM
()

David Coppersmith (R) : 35.34%
(Blue, me)
Mike Bloomberg (I) : 34.77% (green)
David Paterson (D) : 29.89% (red)


played my friend's President forever at his house. He made his own 2010 Governor of NY scenario.

Really, don't ask what happened, WTF at queens....I won queens...

Didn't know there were gubernatorial P4E versions.

Check out the theory spark site, there's quite a few that you can just add to your own game.

http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/ (http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 06, 2009, 03:46:25 PM
()

David Coppersmith (R) : 35.34%
(Blue, me)
Mike Bloomberg (I) : 34.77% (green)
David Paterson (D) : 29.89% (red)


played my friend's President forever at his house. He made his own 2010 Governor of NY scenario.

Really, don't ask what happened, WTF at queens....I won queens...

Didn't know there were gubernatorial P4E versions.

Check out the theory spark site, there's quite a few that you can just add to your own game.

http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/ (http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/category/p4e8/)

Great. :D I'll add them when I'll be back home.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 06, 2009, 05:57:32 PM
Tried to take up the challenge of defeating Carter in the primaries as Kennedy. It is possible, if you do not waste all your money in the beginning trying to negate the effects of the events like I did. Carter really just has too much momentum in the beginning. I came close, but it was not enough to win the nomination. I possibly could have won at the convention, but that cannot be represented in the game.

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Jimmy Carter (D-GA) 1834 Delegates / 54%
Ted Kennedy (D-MA) 1440 Delegates / 46%
Jerry Brown (D-CA) "7 Delegates / 8%" Dropped Out


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 06, 2009, 07:29:46 PM
2008 enhanced version

Democratic Primaries
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Green - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Red - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Orange/Brown - Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) [Endorsed Senator Clinton]


Republican Primaries
()

Blue - Former Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)
Green - Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
Red - Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Yellow - Former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
White - Senator Thompson wins by defaults due to Senator McCain's withdrawal

General Election
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 314 electoral votes and 66,877,036 (51.3%) popular votes
Former Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Representative Eric Cantor (D-VA-7) - 224 electoral votes and 61,467,830 (47.1%) popular votes
Others (Wayne Allen Root (Libertarian) and Chuck Baldwin (Constitution)) - 2,063,604 (1.6%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 06, 2009, 08:10:41 PM
Uneven Matchups 2000 Edition Part I
Spacebarred through the general election, pitting the best possible Republican ticket against the worst possible Democratic ticket. Safe to say, the results are solid, but it was still a suprise that the Democrats managed to still carry Florida.

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Light-Colored States were won within 4% of the runner-up

John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 55,322,447 51.3% / 327 Electoral
Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 48,906,684 45.4% / 211 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 3,573,754 3.3%

Close States

Florida

Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 3,092,527 50.3%
John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 2,960,988 48.2%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 94,773 1.5%

Delware

Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 147,684 49.4%
John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 140,684 47.2%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 9,966 3.3%

Vermont

John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 111,428 47.9%
Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 104,206 44.8%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 16,824 7.2%

California

Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 6,497,442 49.8%
John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 6,003,625 46%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 538,774 4.1%

Iowa

John McCain (R-AZ)/Tom Ridge (R-PA) 564,528 50.5%
Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Bob Graham (D-FL) 519,624 46.5%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 33,348 3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 06, 2009, 08:40:40 PM
Uneven Matchups 2000 Edition Part II

Spacebarred through the general election, pitting the best possible Democratic ticket against the worst possible Republican ticket. The result are as one would expect, especially considering who the Republican canidate is.

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Light-Colored States are within 3% of the runner-up

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 57,917,304 53.7% / 407 Electoral
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 46,877,041 43.5% / 131 Electoral
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 2,974,585 2.8%

Close States

North Carolina

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 1,551,355 50.5%
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 1,523,662 49.5%

Georgia

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 1,582,698 50.9%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 1,509,400 48.5%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 20,190 0.6%

Kentucky

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 782,331 50.2%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 741,473 47.6%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 35,225 2.3%

Tennessee

Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 1,123,043 51.2%
Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 1,049,813 47.8%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 21,656 1%

South Carolina

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 787,333 50.8%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 731,734 47.2%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 30,580 2%

Texas

Alan Keyes (R-MD)/John Engler (R-MI) 4,051,372 50.8%
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 3,754,574 50.8%
Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Winona LaDuke (G-MN) 161,609 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 06, 2009, 09:03:53 PM
Uneven Matchups 2004 Edition Part I
Spacebarred through the general election with the best possible Democratic ticket against the worst possible Republican ticket.

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North Carolina was the only state that could have possibly changed hands.

John Kerry (D-MA)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 52,240,882 51.5% / 366 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 47,784,474 47.1% / 172 Elector
Others 1,353,058 1.4%

Close States

North Carolina
John Kerry (D-MA)/Mark Warner (D-VA) 1,504,764 49.8%
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY) 1,477,047 48.9%
Others 37,272 1.2%
Others 1,353,058 1.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on August 07, 2009, 12:40:36 AM
Anybody else have a weird thing where by the time the Democratic and Republican National Conventions are held, there's only one candidate?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 07, 2009, 07:27:28 AM
Anybody else have a weird thing where by the time the Democratic and Republican National Conventions are held, there's only one candidate?

Yes, especially when candidates start withdrawing in July when no one even has a majority...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 08, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
1984 election

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Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 522 electoral votes and 49,180,589 (55.9%) popular votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 16 electoral votes and 35,385,835 (40.2%) popular votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador to Mexico Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 3,479,987 (4.0%) popular votes

Going into election day, Senator Kennedy had 280 electoral votes in his column. With the help of one Pro-Kennedy ad and one Anti-Reagan ad, Kennedy swept the undecideds to become the 41st President of the United States.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 08, 2009, 06:43:03 PM
1984 election

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Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 522 electoral votes and 49,180,589 (55.9%) popular votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 16 electoral votes and 35,385,835 (40.2%) popular votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador to Mexico Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 3,479,987 (4.0%) popular votes

Going into election day, Senator Kennedy had 280 electoral votes in his column. With the help of one Pro-Kennedy ad and one Anti-Reagan ad, Kennedy swept the undecideds to become the 41st President of the United States.

Just delighting to see Ronnie the Great being destroyed in 1984...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 08, 2009, 09:53:11 PM
1984 election

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Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 522 electoral votes and 49,180,589 (55.9%) popular votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 16 electoral votes and 35,385,835 (40.2%) popular votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador to Mexico Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 3,479,987 (4.0%) popular votes

Going into election day, Senator Kennedy had 280 electoral votes in his column. With the help of one Pro-Kennedy ad and one Anti-Reagan ad, Kennedy swept the undecideds to become the 41st President of the United States.
General Election, or from the primaries?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 09, 2009, 08:06:48 AM
1984 election

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Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Former Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 522 electoral votes and 49,180,589 (55.9%) popular votes
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX) - 16 electoral votes and 35,385,835 (40.2%) popular votes
Former Representative John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Ambassador to Mexico Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 3,479,987 (4.0%) popular votes

Going into election day, Senator Kennedy had 280 electoral votes in his column. With the help of one Pro-Kennedy ad and one Anti-Reagan ad, Kennedy swept the undecideds to become the 41st President of the United States.
General Election, or from the primaries?

Just the general election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 09, 2009, 04:44:51 PM
2008 election

Democratic primaries
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Green - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Red - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)

Republican Primaries
()
Green - Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Blue - Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
Orange/Brown - Former Senator George Allen (R-VA)
Red - Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)
Yellow - Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)

General Election
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 289 electoral votes and 57,795,162 (48.9%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) - 249 electoral votes and 47,345,799 (40.0%) popular votes
Others (Badnarik and Peroutka) - 13,163,473 (11.1%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President Mitt on August 10, 2009, 07:41:03 AM
I played as George Wallace in 1972 against Nixon.

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Didn't do so hot.....

My best state surprisingly was Massachusetts.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on August 10, 2009, 06:03:03 PM
I played as George Wallace in 1972 against Nixon.

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Didn't do so hot.....

My best state surprisingly was Massachusetts.

Who was Wallace's running mate?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 12, 2009, 05:13:11 PM
2008 election scenario

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Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 431 electoral votes and 67,003,996 (56.6%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ) - 107 electoral votes and 48,888,000 (41.3%) popular votes
Others (Badnarik and Peroutka) - 2,567,125 (2.2%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on August 14, 2009, 11:49:25 AM



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Barack Obama (D-IL) / Bill Richardson (D-NM) : 285
David Coppersmith (R-NC) / John McCain (R-AZ) : 263

I lost Ohio by 2%, polls showed me up by 6% there.




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on August 14, 2009, 02:46:41 PM



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Barack Obama (D-IL) / Bill Richardson (D-NM) : 285
David Coppersmith (R-NC) / John McCain (R-AZ) : 263

I lost Ohio by 2%, polls showed me up by 6% there.

Who's David Coppersmith?


Oh, so as not to doublepost:

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I was too lazy to bother doing the map, so I took a screenshot.

Senator Eugene McCarthy/ Senator George McGovern (D)
Mr. Richard Nixon/ Governor Spiro Agnew (R)
Governor George Wallace/ General Curtis LeMay (I)

The primaries were as intense as they were in reality-- I narrowly won against Humphrey and Kennedy, went along lines of ideology rather than practicality when choosing George McGovern as my running mate and then had to contend with a "McCarthy's nomination splits party" event.

The election phase was tough, but I eventually won. Wallace and Nixon split the right-wing vote so much that I was able to capture Texas, which was a big boost. I actually outperformed Nixon in a few of the Wallace states.





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on August 14, 2009, 03:12:57 PM
I'm David Coppersmith


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 14, 2009, 03:19:46 PM



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Barack Obama (D-IL) / Bill Richardson (D-NM) : 285
David Coppersmith (R-NC) / John McCain (R-AZ) : 263

I lost Ohio by 2%, polls showed me up by 6% there.

Who's David Coppersmith?


Oh, so as not to doublepost:

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I was too lazy to bother doing the map, so I took a screenshot.

Senator Eugene McCarthy/ Senator George McGovern (D)
Mr. Richard Nixon/ Governor Spiro Agnew (R)
Governor George Wallace/ General Curtis LeMay (I)

The primaries were as intense as they were in reality-- I narrowly won against Humphrey and Kennedy, went along lines of ideology rather than practicality when choosing George McGovern as my running mate and then had to contend with a "McCarthy's nomination splits party" event.

The election phase was tough, but I eventually won. Wallace and Nixon split the right-wing vote so much that I was able to capture Texas, which was a big boost. I actually outperformed Nixon in a few of the Wallace states.





Where's the '68 scenario from?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President Mitt on August 14, 2009, 03:59:25 PM



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Barack Obama (D-IL) / Bill Richardson (D-NM) : 285
David Coppersmith (R-NC) / John McCain (R-AZ) : 263

I lost Ohio by 2%, polls showed me up by 6% there.

Who's David Coppersmith?


Oh, so as not to doublepost:

()

I was too lazy to bother doing the map, so I took a screenshot.

Senator Eugene McCarthy/ Senator George McGovern (D)
Mr. Richard Nixon/ Governor Spiro Agnew (R)
Governor George Wallace/ General Curtis LeMay (I)

The primaries were as intense as they were in reality-- I narrowly won against Humphrey and Kennedy, went along lines of ideology rather than practicality when choosing George McGovern as my running mate and then had to contend with a "McCarthy's nomination splits party" event.

The election phase was tough, but I eventually won. Wallace and Nixon split the right-wing vote so much that I was able to capture Texas, which was a big boost. I actually outperformed Nixon in a few of the Wallace states.





Where's the '68 scenario from?

I'd like the 68' scenario too.....

And this is Wallace (me) vs. Reagan 1976

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And I didn't alter anything.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on August 14, 2009, 05:23:45 PM
Lieberman vs. Bush

Bush creamed Lieberman in the election, but Joe strangely carried Arkansas? And Connecticut was the closest state going for Lieberman by 0.1% or 636 votes! And for some reason the choice of Vilsack as Lieberman's running mate, caused Iowa to go to Bush 57% to 43%!

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George W. Bush/Dick Cheney-325 electoral votes, and 53,444,065 votes or 53.1%
Joseph I. Lieberman/Tom Vilsack-213 electoral votes, and 46,493,772 votes or 46.2%
Ralph Nader/Peter Cemejo-789,162 votes or 0.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President Mitt on August 16, 2009, 07:02:43 AM
I noticed there was a lot of 1912 scenarios, does anybody have it. If you do PM me please.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President Mitt on August 16, 2009, 08:23:11 AM
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Johnson (ME)- 287
Romney- 176
Wallace- 75

Romney won the PV (41- 40.5- 18).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 16, 2009, 06:43:05 PM
2008 enhanced scenario

Democratic Primaries
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Green - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Blue - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Red - Former Senator John Edwards (D-NC)


Republican Primaries
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Red - Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
Green - Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Blue - Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-IA)
Grey - Senator McCain wins by default due to the withdrawal of Former Governors Romney and Huckabee


General Election
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 274 electoral votes and 67,346,292 (52.2%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Former Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - 264 electoral votes and 61,674,002 (47.8%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 18, 2009, 12:59:13 PM
2008 enhanced

Democratic Primaries
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Green - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Blue - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Red - Former Senator John Edwards (D-NC)

Republican Primaries
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Green - Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Blue - Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)
Red - Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Grey - Romney win by default due to Giuliani and Huckabee withdrawal


General Election
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 313 electoral votes and 70,536,902 (54.7%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Secretary of Homeland Security Tom Ridge (R-PA) - 225 electoral votes and 58,483,391 (45.3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: fezzyfestoon on August 18, 2009, 10:26:23 PM
I just ran a campaign for Governor of Michigan and lost by 135 votes statewide.  It was nuts.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on August 18, 2009, 10:35:55 PM
I forgot about this game! I used to play it all the time before the election last year.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 18, 2009, 10:41:52 PM
I forgot about this game! I used to play it all the time before the election last year.

I'm playing the Virginia Gubernatorial Scenario every day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 20, 2009, 03:06:46 PM
2016 election scenario

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Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)/Senator Mark Begich (D-AK) - 469 electoral votes and 82,339,337 (48.3%) popular votes
Former Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA)/Senator Charlie Crist (R-FL) - 69 electoral votes and 55,985,980 (32.8%) popular votes
Others - 32,283,700 (18.9%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 22, 2009, 01:19:03 PM
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Johnson/Humphrey: 40.8% PV, 291 EV
Nixon/Agnew: 38.3% PV, 170 EV
Wallace/LeMay: 20.9% PV, 77 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on August 22, 2009, 04:03:00 PM
A strange and very very narrow comeback after trailing in the polls for weeks on end as WJB in the 1896 election.

Polling on day before election:
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Actual outcome:
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Democrat William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska/ Arthur Sewall of Maine - 225 electoral votes, 47.9% popular vote

Republican William McKinley of Ohio/ Garret Hobart of New Jersey- 222 electoral votes, 48.3% popular vote

National Democrat John Palmer of Illinois/ Simon Buckner of Kentucky- 0 electoral votes, 2.1% popular vote

Prohibitionist Joshua Levering of Maryland/ Hale Johnson of Illinois- 0 electoral votes, 1.7% popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on August 22, 2009, 05:29:31 PM
A strange and very very narrow comeback after trailing in the polls for weeks on end as WJB in the 1896 election.

Polling on day before election:
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Actual outcome:
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Democrat William Jennings Bryan of Nebraska/ Arthur Sewall of Maine - 225 electoral votes, 47.9% popular vote

Republican William McKinley of Ohio/ Garret Hobart of New Jersey- 222 electoral votes, 48.3% popular vote

National Democrat John Palmer of Illinois/ Simon Buckner of Kentucky- 0 electoral votes, 2.1% popular vote

Prohibitionist Joshua Levering of Maryland/ Hale Johnson of Illinois- 0 electoral votes, 1.7% popular vote

That looks a lot like 2004 with the colors and parties flipped.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 22, 2009, 10:35:14 PM
1968 Presidential Election as Humphrey.

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Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 36,213,169 45.3% / 336 Electoral
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 31,460,404 39.4% / 125 Electoral
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 12,221,327 15.3% / 77 Electoral


Close States

Tennessee

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 556,265 33.6%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 551,106 33.3%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 547,944 33.1%

Kentucky

Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 624,080 37.3%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 613,068 36.7%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 434,261 26%

North Carolina

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 693,609 34%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 680, 609 33.3%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 667,794 32.7%

Wisconsin

Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 711,469 47.4%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 693,478 46.2%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 97,500 6.5%

Delaware

Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 83,759 44.9%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 80,849 43.4%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 21,746 11.7%

South Carolina

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 360,715 34.9%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 344,865 33.3%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 329,023 31.8%

Arkansas

George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 281,669 36.2%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 263,125 33.9%
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 232,241 29.9%

Florida

Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 917,819 36.2%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 838,032 33.1%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 779,459 30.7%

New Hampshire

Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Spiro Agnew (R-MD) 132,437 50.2%
Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Ed Muskie (D-ME) 124,071 47%
George Wallace (AI-AL)/Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) 7,442 2.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on August 22, 2009, 10:41:00 PM
That looks a lot like 2004 with the colors and parties flipped.

It's interesting playing the older elections how often that seems to happen.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on August 22, 2009, 10:54:21 PM
Playing as Dewey, 1948:

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Republican Thomas E. Dewey of New York/ Earl Warren of California- 314 electoral votes, 48.6% popular vote


Democrat Harry S. Truman of Missouri/ Alben W. Barkley of Kentucky- 179 electoral votes, 44.6% popular vote

Dixiecrat J. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina/ Fielding Wright of Mississippi- 38 electoral votes, 3.6% popular vote

Progressive Henry Wallace of Iowa/ Glenn Taylor of Idaho- 0 electoral votes, 3.1% popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 24, 2009, 06:26:09 PM
2008 Election - Enhanced Scenario

Democratic Primaries
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) (Green)
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) (Blue)
Former Senator John Edwards (Red)


Republican Primaries
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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) (Green)
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) (Blue)
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) (Red)


General Election
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 327 electoral votes and 68,705,214 (52.9%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) - 211 electoral votes and 58,210,588 (44.8%) popular votes
Others - 2,921,202 (2.2%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on August 25, 2009, 12:27:31 AM
Played the 1968 Scenario as Eugene McCarthy. After a nailbitter primary battle with Humphrey (it was down to about a 60 delegate difference), I won, but at the cost of about half the Democratic party base, most of which went to Wallace. Nixon was ahead of me by about 15 points entering the general election, but attacking his integrity, along with a massive ad campaign following cash infusions, allowed for me to come back, and then surpass Nixon in the polls. By election day, I knew that I had the won, but I was hoping for a larger electoral success. I largely failed to achieve that, but I managed to capture all the toss-up states in which I was within 1st-2nd place.

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Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/George McGovern (D-SD) 39,424,780 46.8% / 368 Electoral
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Tower (R-TX) 29,226,711 34.7% / 79 Electoral
George Wallace (AI-AL)/James Rhodes (R-OH) 15,591,079 18.5% / 91 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 25, 2009, 06:26:21 AM
Played the 1968 Scenario as Eugene McCarthy. After a nailbitter primary battle with Humphrey (it was down to about a 60 delegate difference), I won, but at the cost of about half the Democratic party base, most of which went to Wallace. Nixon was ahead of me by about 15 points entering the general election, but attacking his integrity, along with a massive ad campaign following cash infusions, allowed for me to come back, and then surpass Nixon in the polls. By election day, I knew that I had the won, but I was hoping for a larger electoral success. I largely failed to achieve that, but I managed to capture all the toss-up states in which I was within 1st-2nd place.

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Eugene McCarthy (D-MN)/George McGovern (D-SD) 39,424,780 46.8% / 368 Electoral
Richard Nixon (R-CA)/John Tower (R-TX) 29,226,711 34.7% / 79 Electoral
George Wallace (AI-AL)/James Rhodes (R-OH) 15,591,079 18.5% / 91 Electoral

Where can I get the '68 scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on August 25, 2009, 06:47:21 PM
Is the 1968 scenario available for download somewhere? I'd love to play that thing.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lief 🗽 on August 26, 2009, 04:19:40 AM
What Hashemite and Change08 said.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mart on August 29, 2009, 11:48:13 PM
1988 (as Kennedy):

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Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)/Mario M. Cuomo (D-NY) 55,575,646 46.4% / 264 electoral votes
Pat Robertson (R-VA)/Robert J. Dole (R-KS) 54,730,393 45.7% / 274 electoral votes
Ron Paul (L-TX)/??? (L-??) 9,357,804 7.9% / 0 electoral votes

California was raaaaazor-thin.  Like 2,000 votes thin. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 30, 2009, 05:52:22 AM
1988 (as Kennedy):

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Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)/Mario M. Cuomo (D-NY) 55,575,646 46.4% / 264 electoral votes
Pat Robertson (R-VA)/Robert J. Dole (R-KS) 54,730,393 45.7% / 274 electoral votes
Ron Paul (L-TX)/??? (L-??) 9,357,804 7.9% / 0 electoral votes

California was raaaaazor-thin.  Like 2,000 votes thin. :(

Damn you Ron Paul!!!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 30, 2009, 10:41:53 AM
1988

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Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 323 electoral votes and 60,319,192 (50.4%) popular votes
Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 215 electoral votes and 53,991,416 (45.1%) popular votes
Others (Paul, Fulani) - 5,455,061 (4.6%) popular votes

President-elect Kennedy pulled off a fairly easy win on election night after the election looked to be extremely close on election day, with the Senator ahead by just 0.3% in the polls, but still far behind Vice President Bush in projections for the electoral college.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mart on August 30, 2009, 01:55:40 PM
1988

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Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 323 electoral votes and 60,319,192 (50.4%) popular votes
Vice President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 215 electoral votes and 53,991,416 (45.1%) popular votes
Others (Paul, Fulani) - 5,455,061 (4.6%) popular votes

President-elect Kennedy pulled off a fairly easy win on election night after the election looked to be extremely close on election day, with the Senator ahead by just 0.3% in the polls, but still far behind Vice President Bush in projections for the electoral college.

Wow... you win as Kennedy against HW Bush....and I can't win against Pat f**in Robertson?? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 30, 2009, 02:42:03 PM
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Ted Kennedy: 49.2% PV, 309 EV
George HW Bush: 49.2% PV, 229 EV
Ron Paul: 1.6% PV, 0 EV

The national margin was 2,803 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 30, 2009, 03:42:02 PM
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Ted Kennedy: 49.2% PV, 309 EV
George HW Bush: 49.2% PV, 229 EV
Ron Paul: 1.6% PV, 0 EV

The national margin was 2,803 votes.

Who won the PV? Kennedy or Bush?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on August 30, 2009, 04:13:00 PM
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Ted Kennedy: 49.2% PV, 309 EV
George HW Bush: 49.2% PV, 229 EV
Ron Paul: 1.6% PV, 0 EV

The national margin was 2,803 votes.

Who won the PV? Kennedy or Bush?

Kennedy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mart on August 30, 2009, 04:13:28 PM
1976 (as Ford):

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Gerald R. Ford (R-MI)/Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA) 49.6% / 325 electoral votes
James E. Carter (D-GA)/Birch E. Bayh (D-IN) 50.4% / 213 electoral votes

Carter was destroying me up until the last two weeks, then it was almost as if he just stopped campaigning.  Bayh moved around, but Carter stayed put in Nebraska of all places.  He tanked, but hey, at least he won the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 01, 2009, 04:34:33 PM
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Roosevelt: 68.6% PV, 531 EV
Hoover: 26.2% PV, 0 EV
Thomas: 4.1% PV, 0 EV
Foster: 1.1% PV, 0 EV

Closest state was New Hampshire, decided by 7,167 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on September 01, 2009, 08:44:45 PM
2012

Republican Primaries
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Orange/Brown - Former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
Green - Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Purple - Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)
Red - Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)
Blue - Former Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)
White - Gingrich wins by default due to the other candidates' withdrawals


General Election
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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 483 electoral votes and 71,981,253 (58.7%) popular votes
Former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Former Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 55 electoral votes and 38,899,045 (31.7%) popular votes
Others (Ventura, Peroutka) - 11,756,874 (9.6%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on September 02, 2009, 12:47:00 AM
2008


I played as third party, Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani both won they're primaries. Polls looked like this coming into the Final Days.

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Hillary Clinton was leading in most states


Election Night

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Rudy Giuliani: 49.7% 282 EV  

Hillary Clinton: 48.0% 256 EV  

Others (Me): 1.6% 0 EV

Close States

New York +0.2%
Louisiana +0.3%
Iowa +0.4%
Florida +0.5%
Arkansas +0.7%
Wisconsin +1.0%
Minnesota +2.1%
West Virginia +2.4%
Arizona +2.5%
Nevada +2.5%
Pennsylvania +2.8%
New Mexico +3.0%
North Carolina +4.2%
Oregon +4.4%
Delaware +4.7%
Mississippi +4.8%
Michigan 5.0%






Rudy Giuliani Wins on election night, he wins New Jersey by 7 points and Hillary Clinton wins Ohio by 6 points.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on September 02, 2009, 03:31:26 AM
2008


I played as third party, Hillary Clinton and Rudy Giuliani both won they're primaries. Polls looked like this coming into the Final Days.

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Hillary Clinton was leading in most states


Election Night

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Rudy Giuliani: 49.7% 282 EV  

Hillary Clinton: 48.0% 256 EV  

Others (Me): 1.6% 0 EV

Close States

New York +0.2%
Louisiana +0.3%
Iowa +0.4%
Florida +0.5%
Arkansas +0.7%
Wisconsin +1.0%
Minnesota +2.1%
West Virginia +2.4%
Arizona +2.5%
Nevada +2.5%
Pennsylvania +2.8%
New Mexico +3.0%
North Carolina +4.2%
Oregon +4.4%
Delaware +4.7%
Mississippi +4.8%
Michigan 5.0%






Rudy Giuliani Wins on election night, he wins New Jersey by 7 points and Hillary Clinton wins Ohio by 6 points.



Both maps are lol-worthy. President Forever is one crazy game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on September 02, 2009, 08:45:44 AM
Howard Dean vs. George W. Bush-2004

I played as Nader.

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Howard Dean/Tom Vilsack (D)-297 electoral votes, and 49.8% of the popular vote
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (R)-241 electoral votes, and 49.4% of the popular vote
Ralph Nader/Peter Camejo-0 electoral votes, and  0.8% of the popular vote

The Closest state was Arkansas, which Dean won 49.8% to 49.5% or by about 3,000 votes! :)

Nader's best state was Connecticut with 1.5% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on September 02, 2009, 06:16:39 PM
Gore vs Giuliani in 2008

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Albert Gore: 51.7% 328 EV

Rudy Giuliani: 47.9%  210 EV

Others: 0.4% 0 EV

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Gore Wins Ohio by 14.0 points more than Delaware, Illinois and New York


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on September 04, 2009, 04:05:29 PM
Playing as Joe Biden, I managed to win the electoral college and the presidency despite losing the popular vote by over 7,000,000 votes. Biden took only 47% nationally to Rudy Giuliani's 53%.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on September 04, 2009, 04:47:17 PM
Playing as Joe Biden, I managed to win the electoral college and the presidency despite losing the popular vote by over 7,000,000 votes. Biden took only 47% nationally to Rudy Giuliani's 53%.

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LOL 7 Million votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on September 04, 2009, 06:10:12 PM
Playing as Joe Biden, I managed to win the electoral college and the presidency despite losing the popular vote by over 7,000,000 votes. Biden took only 47% nationally to Rudy Giuliani's 53%.

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LOL 7 Million votes

LOL, can you imagine the aftermath of that election?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 07, 2009, 07:40:50 PM
Playing as Joe Biden, I managed to win the electoral college and the presidency despite losing the popular vote by over 7,000,000 votes. Biden took only 47% nationally to Rudy Giuliani's 53%.

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Man, that would be a major problem.  Fun to think about, though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: fezzyfestoon on September 09, 2009, 01:42:17 PM
I had fun playing as Perot.  I targeted only the largest states and just let Bush and Clinton attack each other the whole time.

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Clinton - 35.3% (36,677,043) - 186
Perot - 33.7% (35,104,621) - 243
Bush - 31.0% (32,262,888) - 109

I came within 3 of Utah, North Carolina, and 4 of Georgia.  Had I won them, I would have won, BUT...

It turns out that while I won the plurality in the Electoral College and Bill Clinton won a plurality in the Popular Vote, Congress decided to give the election to 3rd place in all counts George Bush.

Best states:
Clinton - New Hampshire (20.1% win over Bush)
Perot - California (15.7% win over Clinton)
Bush - Indiana (12.2% win over Clinton)

South Carolina was the closest.  Bush beat Clinton by 278 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on September 09, 2009, 03:10:12 PM
Truman democrats return

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David Coppersmith (D) / Evan Bayh (D) : 274 (51.00%)
John McCain (R) / Tom Ridge (R) : 264 (49.00%)



I was bored os this happened. I campaigned in only Conservative states, plus a few battlegrounds.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on September 09, 2009, 04:28:29 PM
I ran as Robert Byrd in the 1976 Scenario on Hard. Almost lost to Jimmy Carter during the Primaries, mostly because of what became insurgent campaigns by both Jerry Brown and Mo Udall. Somehow, Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan made up sometime during the primaries and ran on a joined ticket, with Reagan as the VP. I would pick Senator Edward Kennedy, to shore up my base among the liberals, and also for his Charismatic ability. The debates were generally a draw, while Kennedy crushed Reagan. Polling showed that I was ahead 57-42, so I was darned sure there would be no hope of a Republican resurgance. The outcome of the final election map suprised me however.

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Robert Byrd (D-WV)/Edward Kennedy (D-MA) 55,129,586 56.1% / 478 Electoral

Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 43,192,606 43.9% / 61 Electoral


Somehow, with negative momentum, Ford and Reagan made a come-back. It wasn't much, but it was enough to show me that the polling data was heavily schewed in my favor, and my campaigning methods may need to be reformed. Regardless, Byrd won in a landslide. This is actually probably one of the only President Forever games that I would like write a timeline upon, the other being my John Connally in 1980.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on September 09, 2009, 06:48:32 PM
Ran as George McGovern in the 1984 scenario from the primaries. I left out Mondale and Hart to create an ahistorical race between McGovern, Jackson, Glen, and Hollings. McGovern easily won the nomination, largely following the endorsement of Jackson, which allowd him to soldify his base, while the party moderates were divided between Glenn and Hollings. I had wanted to pick Barbara Jordan, mainly because McGovern at this point would have to assume that he was going to lose. Why not pick an African American Women, picking up two historical event of note at once? However, Jordan was suffering from major health issues, and would very likely have declined if asked. McGovern himself would have had to realize that putting someone in the copilot's seat, someone who is very VERY ill, would not send a good message. Therefore, he probably would have settled on John Glenn, who was popular, well-known, and experianced.

The election went terribly. Despite McGovern's attempts at attacking Reagan, the odds against him were just to high. Reagan was popular due to a roaring economy, was much more charismatic, and had a massive war chest. McGovern was once again painted as the "Amnesty, Abortion, and Acid" canidate, and even though it did not have the same ring in it, it had the same effect within an America that was moving toward the right. George McGovern would be crushed in a landslide, while Ronald Reagan would achieve the largest popular vote victory since the "Era of Good Feelings"

Henceforth, all sacrificial canidates were titled "McGovern's Children"

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Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 51,063,247 61.7% / 499 Electoral
George McGovern (D-NY)/John Glenn (D-OH) 31,675,805 38.3% / 39 Electoral

I have to say, this seems like the exact outcome that would occur if they had really matched up this way in real life.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on September 09, 2009, 10:14:31 PM
Actually, in that scenario, I could see Reagan winning 50 states. I don't think that Glenn would be McGovern's running mate though, in the very unlikely event that McGovern would be nominated in the first place.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 09, 2009, 11:05:20 PM
Truman democrats return

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David Coppersmith (D) / Evan Bayh (D) : 274 (51.00%)
John McCain (R) / Tom Ridge (R) : 264 (49.00%)



I was bored os this happened. I campaigned in only Conservative states, plus a few battlegrounds.

Don't you dare compare yourself to Harry Truman.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 10, 2009, 03:37:24 PM
Don't you dare compare yourself to Harry Truman.

Thank you.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on September 12, 2009, 08:22:12 AM
Ran as George McGovern in the 1984 scenario from the primaries. I left out Mondale and Hart to create an ahistorical race between McGovern, Jackson, Glen, and Hollings. McGovern easily won the nomination, largely following the endorsement of Jackson, which allowd him to soldify his base, while the party moderates were divided between Glenn and Hollings. I had wanted to pick Barbara Jordan, mainly because McGovern at this point would have to assume that he was going to lose. Why not pick an African American Women, picking up two historical event of note at once? However, Jordan was suffering from major health issues, and would very likely have declined if asked. McGovern himself would have had to realize that putting someone in the copilot's seat, someone who is very VERY ill, would not send a good message. Therefore, he probably would have settled on John Glenn, who was popular, well-known, and experianced.

The election went terribly. Despite McGovern's attempts at attacking Reagan, the odds against him were just to high. Reagan was popular due to a roaring economy, was much more charismatic, and had a massive war chest. McGovern was once again painted as the "Amnesty, Abortion, and Acid" canidate, and even though it did not have the same ring in it, it had the same effect within an America that was moving toward the right. George McGovern would be crushed in a landslide, while Ronald Reagan would achieve the largest popular vote victory since the "Era of Good Feelings"

Henceforth, all sacrificial canidates were titled "McGovern's Children"

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Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 51,063,247 61.7% / 499 Electoral
George McGovern (D-NY)/John Glenn (D-OH) 31,675,805 38.3% / 39 Electoral

I have to say, this seems like the exact outcome that would occur if they had really matched up this way in real life.

I actually came within - IIRC- 30 Electoral Votes of beating Reagan as McGovern in 1984. The trick is to go really, really, really negative, all the time. Any backfires are more than made up for in terms of the negative momentum the other candidate gets.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on September 12, 2009, 06:43:54 PM
2008

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Dean/Bayh - 507 ev/56.8% pv
Bush/Cheney - 31 ev/39.7% pv
Others - 5.2% pv


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on September 12, 2009, 07:22:13 PM
Biden/Schweitzer-381
Giuliani/Sanford-157


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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on September 16, 2009, 09:42:33 AM
Spacebarred through the 2007 Lousiana Gubernatorial Scenario. It was really interesting, because it appeared that Jindal had it tied up. However come election day, Blanco managed to pull out an EXTREMELY narrow victory. By the game's standards, Jindal actually won, but electoral votes aren't used for gubernatorial elections.


Republican: Bobby Jindal 1,340,062 49% / 221 Electoral

Democratic: Kathleen Blanco 1,340,670 49.1% / 183 Electoral

Libertarian (me): Horn III 51,448 1.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on September 16, 2009, 06:54:57 PM
When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

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George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on September 16, 2009, 08:43:14 PM
When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

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George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

Who won in the house?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on September 16, 2009, 09:01:44 PM
When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

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George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

Who won in the house?

Bush, though in this scenario it actually makes sense, as he had captured a majority of both the electoral and popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on September 16, 2009, 10:52:31 PM
I actually managed to do it. Donald Trump is the new President of the United States!

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Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 37,322,032 35.4% / 303 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 38,435,589 36.4% / 210 Electoral
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Steve Forbes (R-NJ) 29,716,136 28.2% / 25 Electoral

Again, Al Gore lost the election while winning the popular vote. I might do a timeline on this, as I think a Donald Trump Presidency might be quite interesting.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 16, 2009, 11:50:00 PM
When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

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George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

Who won in the house?

Bush, though in this scenario it actually makes sense, as he had captured a majority of both the electoral and popular vote.

He didn't get a majority of either.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on September 16, 2009, 11:53:59 PM
When Donald Trump is in the running, he likes to use a LOT of adds with his millions. Not the best speaker by far, but he is able to reach many more people than he would otherwise. As a result, his canidacy pretty much messed up the map, since he appealed to just about everyone, causing victories for others that would probably never happen.

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George W. Bush (R-TX)/John Danforth (R-MO) 38,507,912 36.5% / 267 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN)/Bill Richardson (D-NM) 36,767,256 34.8% / 216 Electoral
Donald Trump (R-NY)/David Boren (R-OK) 30,261,689 28.7% / 55 Electoral

Who won in the house?

Bush, though in this scenario it actually makes sense, as he had captured a majority of both the electoral and popular vote.

He didn't get a majority of either.
Plurality


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on September 17, 2009, 02:56:23 PM
2008 enhanced

Democratic Primary
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Orange/Brown - Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)
Green - Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Red - Former Senator John Edwards (D-NC)
Blue - Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)


Republican Primary
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Red - Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Green - Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)
Blue - Former Speaker of the United States House of Representatives Newt Gingrich (R-GA)
Purple - Former Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN)
Orange - Senator John McCain (R-AZ)
Grey - Romney is the presumtive nominee, so he wins by default


General Election
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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX) - 281 electoral votes and 65,221,167 (50.0%) popular votes
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 257 electoral votes and 63,767,988 (48.9%) popular votes
Others (Ruwart, Baldwin) - 1,419,156 (1.1%) popular votes

I played as Obama. This election was down the wire all the way. Romney held a RAZOR thin lead for the entire election, on election day he was 1.5% ahead of Obama in the final polling. Obama's hopes rested on victories in New Mexico, Iowa and Nevada to get a 269-269 tie and Romney had to hold onto Iowa, Colorado and Nevada to win outright. Obama held the lead in Nevada for most of Election Night until the final few minutes of the count when Romney suddenly took the lead; he won the state by 208 votes. Iowa swung back and forth the entire night, finally landing in the Romney column when he won by a 1% margin. The Obama campaign could have won if they hadn't written off Ohio and Florida, which Romney had held small leads in for the entire election, succedding (during the summer) in leaving less than 1% of undecideds, making it nearly impossible for it to turn blue (or red in the forum's case).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on September 19, 2009, 03:12:49 PM
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Roosevelt: 48.9% PV, 431 EV
Hoover: 30.8% PV, 38 EV
Thomas: 20.3% PV, 62 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on September 19, 2009, 08:55:10 PM
wtf nd?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on September 25, 2009, 11:30:07 AM
What's the scenario with Trump in it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on September 25, 2009, 02:32:55 PM
What's the scenario with Trump in it?
It's a modified 2000 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on September 26, 2009, 07:21:49 AM

Oh, okay. Any chance someone could send it to me?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on September 27, 2009, 10:47:07 PM
Atlas Forever Scenario, played as Libertarian. Closest states were PA, OR, NJ, WI, MO, MN. The closest state that effectively decided the election was New Jersey(MacLohain-49.9%, Constine-49.6%).

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(R)-Rep. Christopher MacLohain, MA/Sen. John McCain, AZ: 279 EV, 48.3%
(D)-Sen. Ben Constine, VA/Sen. Barbara Boxer, CA: 259 EV, 51%
Others: 0 EV, 0.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on September 27, 2009, 10:53:05 PM

Oh, okay. Any chance someone could send it to me?
Don't have it, it's pretty much a Lahbas created scenario. Sorry though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on September 27, 2009, 11:09:46 PM
Ran Moratlis and L'Hermine against each other in "Atlas Forever".

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(D)-Sen. Gael-Malo L'Hermine, VT/Gov. Bill Richardson, NM: 400 EV, 52.2%
(R)-Gov. Vepres Moratlis, CO/Fmr Gov. Jeb Bush, FL: 138 EV, 45.6%
Others: 0 EV, 2.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on October 01, 2009, 06:19:42 PM

Oh, okay. Any chance someone could send it to me?
Don't have it, it's pretty much a Lahbas created scenario. Sorry though.
I'll send it if somebody can tell me how. When I try to find my custom made scenarios to attach for downloads or whatever, I can't find them.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 02, 2009, 11:44:01 PM
Just a quick run through for my "Republic of Texas - 1836 Election" scenario as Stephen F. Austin

(N/A)-Sam Houston: 78%

(N/A)-Stephen F. Austin: 15.1%

(N/A)-Henry Smith: 6.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on October 03, 2009, 04:30:58 PM
I ran a merciless campaign attacking Reagan on the integrity issue- he had negative momentum almost constantly from the conventions on. By Election Day, I had a lead of about 310, but I had no idea it would be such a landslide.

Welcome to bizzaro-world, 1980.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on October 08, 2009, 02:08:41 AM
Ran as George McGovern in the 1984 scenario from the primaries. I left out Mondale and Hart to create an ahistorical race between McGovern, Jackson, Glen, and Hollings. McGovern easily won the nomination, largely following the endorsement of Jackson, which allowd him to soldify his base, while the party moderates were divided between Glenn and Hollings. I had wanted to pick Barbara Jordan, mainly because McGovern at this point would have to assume that he was going to lose. Why not pick an African American Women, picking up two historical event of note at once? However, Jordan was suffering from major health issues, and would very likely have declined if asked. McGovern himself would have had to realize that putting someone in the copilot's seat, someone who is very VERY ill, would not send a good message. Therefore, he probably would have settled on John Glenn, who was popular, well-known, and experianced.

The election went terribly. Despite McGovern's attempts at attacking Reagan, the odds against him were just to high. Reagan was popular due to a roaring economy, was much more charismatic, and had a massive war chest. McGovern was once again painted as the "Amnesty, Abortion, and Acid" canidate, and even though it did not have the same ring in it, it had the same effect within an America that was moving toward the right. George McGovern would be crushed in a landslide, while Ronald Reagan would achieve the largest popular vote victory since the "Era of Good Feelings"

Henceforth, all sacrificial canidates were titled "McGovern's Children"

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Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX) 51,063,247 61.7% / 499 Electoral
George McGovern (D-NY)/John Glenn (D-OH) 31,675,805 38.3% / 39 Electoral

I have to say, this seems like the exact outcome that would occur if they had really matched up this way in real life.

Agreed.
People often forget that while LBJ and Nixon won enormous landslides against extremists, Reagan did so against a normal Democrat who might've not been moderate but was 5 miles away from being an extremist (although pv wise Reagan got only 58.5% of the vote). If his opponent was an extremist he might've won all 50 states and win the biggest pv since the Era of Good Feelings.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deldem on October 21, 2009, 10:43:41 PM
Ted Kennedy vs. Reagan, 1984

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Kennedy/Glenn: 281 EV/ 49.1%, 46,651,858
Reagan/Bush: 257 EV/ 50.9%, 48, 344, 831

I was pretty shocked at this, I thought I'd lost going into Election night.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Psychic Octopus on October 21, 2009, 10:48:30 PM
I ran a merciless campaign attacking Reagan on the integrity issue- he had negative momentum almost constantly from the conventions on. By Election Day, I had a lead of about 310, but I had no idea it would be such a landslide.

Welcome to bizzaro-world, 1980.

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Just died a bit inside...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deldem on October 22, 2009, 10:56:09 PM
Complete LBJ Domination, 1968

Managed to fight off Kennedy and McCarthy, then mercilessly destroyed Nixon with scandals.

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Johnson/Humphrey: 366 EV/ 45.8%, 37,395,885
Nixon/Case: 81 EV/ 35.4%, 28,840,911
Wallace/LeMay: 91 EV/ 18.8%, 15,328,922


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on October 23, 2009, 09:25:24 AM
I ran a merciless campaign attacking Reagan on the integrity issue- he had negative momentum almost constantly from the conventions on. By Election Day, I had a lead of about 310, but I had no idea it would be such a landslide.

Welcome to bizzaro-world, 1980.

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!

Just died a bit inside...

It was completely unexpected. I was in a good mood for a while before I remembered it was just a video game. :p


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on October 23, 2009, 10:20:59 AM
Ran Moratlis and L'Hermine against each other in "Atlas Forever".

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(D)-Sen. Gael-Malo L'Hermine, VT/Gov. Bill Richardson, NM: 400 EV, 52.2%
(R)-Gov. Vepres Moratlis, CO/Fmr Gov. Jeb Bush, FL: 138 EV, 45.6%
Others: 0 EV, 2.1%

Illinois is so out of place.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on October 23, 2009, 01:59:59 PM
Just ran a very fun 1992 game. I played as Perot.

Bush led for most of the election, with Clinton only leading the week of the Democratic convention.  Perot was in third until late-September, when he tied with Clinton for second. Near the end I made a push to get Perot to win California and New York, and came very close in both. Bush only beat out Perot in California by 12,000 votes.

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George H. W. Bush: 413 EVs/38.4%, 42,292,438
Ross Perot: 70 EVs/30.7%, 33,825,187
William J. Clinton: 55 EVs/30.9%, 33,979,239

Perot was <2% away from winning Utah, Wyoming, California, Montana, and Missouri.
Perot was <5% away from winning Colorado, New Hampshire, Connecticut, New York, Delaware, and Kansas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on October 25, 2009, 02:15:54 PM
Romney/pawlenty vs Clinton/Kusinich vs Paul/Brown. I won as Clinton
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on October 25, 2009, 05:15:26 PM
Ah, 1996. All things considered, a pretty dull election. Clinton should win this one easily, with a predictable electoral map and wait what the hell-

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Woah!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 25, 2009, 05:54:48 PM
2016 Scenario

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(D)-Sen. Mark Warner, VA/Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, NY: 50.9%, 439 EV
(R)-Fmr Gov. Bobby Jindal, LA/Ambassador Jon Huntsman, Jr., UT: 42.4%, 99 EV
(Li)-Party Chair. Mike Jingozian, OR/Mr. Charles Jay, MO: 6.7%, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 25, 2009, 06:39:07 PM
Well Vepres, here are the results for the Primares with everyone in them....

TOP-Democrats
BOTTOM-Republicans

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DEMOCRATS

Dark Blue-Chowdhury
Brown-Sanchez
Pink-Pilar
Aqua-Westman
Green-McShan
Purple-Gutierrez
Maroon-Constine
Orange-L'Hermine
Gray-Wedewer

TICKET:
(D)-Vince Pilar/Wesley Clark

REPUBLICANS

Green-Moratlis
Blue-Valmont
Yellow-Coppersmith
Red-Soult

TICKET:
(R)-Vepres Moratlis/George Pataki


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 25, 2009, 06:42:41 PM
The continuation of the "Everyone In" for my "Atlas Forever" scenario Vepres requested.

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Vince Pilar, CO/Wesley Clark, AR: 56.4% 505 EV
Vepres Moratlis, CO/George Pataki, NY: 42.6% 33 EV
Michael Badnarik, TX/Mary Ruwart, TX: 1% 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on October 25, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
Well Vepres, here are the results for the Primares with everyone in them....

TOP-Democrats
BOTTOM-Republicans

()

DEMOCRATS

Dark Blue-Chowdhury
Brown-Sanchez
Pink-Pilar
Aqua-Westman
Green-McShan
Purple-Gutierrez
Maroon-Constine
Orange-L'Hermine
Gray-Wedewer

TICKET:
(D)-Vince Pilar/Wesley Clark

REPUBLICANS

Green-Moratlis
Blue-Valmont
Yellow-Coppersmith
Red-Soult

TICKET:
(R)-Vepres Moratlis/George Pataki

I did'nt win one?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on October 25, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
I wasn't included... :(
*sobs silently*


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Associate Justice PiT on October 25, 2009, 08:08:31 PM


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on October 25, 2009, 08:35:54 PM
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Ron Paul of Texas (376 electoral votes, 53.8% popular vote)
Barack Obama of Illinois (162 electoral votes, 46.2% popular vote)

Playing as Ron Paul, my only real unexpected defeat was Nevada, although I had done a bit of late campaigning in Washington as well.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 25, 2009, 10:41:40 PM
Hey don't be down, I included everybody, you just didn't win any primaries. I have to suffer knowing that my character for some reason won Alabama, bleh.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 26, 2009, 01:47:23 AM
I won Iowa, cool.

Ah, 1996. All things considered, a pretty dull election. Clinton should win this one easily, with a predictable electoral map and wait what the hell-

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Woah!

It got so much weirder when I realized that those aren't Atlas colors.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on October 26, 2009, 07:31:16 AM
If you guys want a laugh, make LaRouche the Democratic candidate in the 1996 scenarion and see what happens when the first week's polls come out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on October 26, 2009, 03:11:18 PM
Well Vepres, here are the results for the Primares with everyone in them....

TOP-Democrats
BOTTOM-Republicans

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DEMOCRATS

Dark Blue-Chowdhury
Brown-Sanchez
Pink-Pilar
Aqua-Westman
Green-McShan
Purple-Gutierrez
Maroon-Constine
Orange-L'Hermine
Gray-Wedewer

TICKET:
(D)-Vince Pilar/Wesley Clark

REPUBLICANS

Green-Moratlis
Blue-Valmont
Yellow-Coppersmith
Red-Soult

TICKET:
(R)-Vepres Moratlis/George Pataki

I'm kind of shock at how well I did. Also, I ended up getting the most random ass states out of all the candidates: Alaska, Washington, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Missouri, Illinois, Florida, Connecticut, and DC (how in the f**k does a libertarian Democrat win Oklahoma and DC?!!!!!) Then again considering how well borderline conservative Pilar did I shouldn't be surprised. This game looks like a battle between the libertarian leaners in Atlas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on October 26, 2009, 03:20:59 PM
I've heard that on President Forever 2012, there's going to be an option to make the winner of elections the winner of the popular vote, which would help to make gubernatorial/senatorial/congressional/ elections a lot more realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 29, 2009, 10:15:35 PM
Another "Atlas Forever '08" scenario playthrough.

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Scott Westman, MT/Evan Bayh, IN: 310 EV, 51.5%
Santiago Drexler, CA/Bill Owens, CO: 228 EV, 47.3%
Michael Badnarik, TX/Lance Brown, CA: 0 EV, 1.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on October 29, 2009, 10:39:14 PM
Atlas Forever with a "Noble vs Moore" with me playing Flynn.

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Ryan Noble, WI/John McCain, AZ: 457 EV, 51.8%
Scott Moore, MD/Bill Richardson, NM: 81 EV, 44.3%
Connor Flynn, ME/Lincoln Chafee, RI: 0 EV, 3.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on October 29, 2009, 10:50:06 PM
The continuation of the "Everyone In" for my "Atlas Forever" scenario Vepres requested.

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Vince Pilar, CO/Wesley Clark, AR: 56.4% 505 EV
Vepres Moratlis, CO/George Pataki, NY: 42.6% 33 EV
Michael Badnarik, TX/Mary Ruwart, TX: 1% 0 EV

What's with me winning Illinois?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Smid on October 29, 2009, 11:32:00 PM
I've heard that on President Forever 2012, there's going to be an option to make the winner of elections the winner of the popular vote, which would help to make gubernatorial/senatorial/congressional/ elections a lot more realistic.

Excellent, excellent, EXCELLENT! I look forward to seeing this!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on October 29, 2009, 11:42:37 PM
Play me against whoever.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on October 30, 2009, 08:46:17 AM
Atlas Forever with a "Noble vs Moore" with me playing Flynn.

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Ryan Noble, WI/John McCain, AZ: 457 EV, 51.8%
Scott Moore, MD/Bill Richardson, NM: 81 EV, 44.3%
Connor Flynn, ME/Lincoln Chafee, RI: 0 EV, 3.9%

Damn, how'd I get so badly crushed....


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on October 30, 2009, 02:09:49 PM
Atlas Forever with a "Noble vs Moore" with me playing Flynn.

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Ryan Noble, WI/John McCain, AZ: 457 EV, 51.8%
Scott Moore, MD/Bill Richardson, NM: 81 EV, 44.3%
Connor Flynn, ME/Lincoln Chafee, RI: 0 EV, 3.9%

Damn, how'd I get so badly crushed....

What is that, anyway? Someone made a scenario with a bunch of people here in it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on October 31, 2009, 12:36:57 AM
Bush/Fernandez-326
Bentsen/Gephardt-212

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on October 31, 2009, 04:36:37 PM
Ran a custom made scenario in which the Democratic Party splits between supporters of Obama and Clinton after a nasty fight at the convention, in which Clinton is victorious. As a result of massive vote splitting, McCain is victorious in a massive landslide.

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John McCain (R-AZ) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)   53,253,777   44.4% / 464 Electoral
Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Evan Bayh (D-IN)   34,069,021   28.4% / 47 Electoral
Barack Obama (DR-IL) / Bill Richardson (DR-NM)   32,546,625   27.2% / 27 Electoral

What is interesting is the map where the Democratic vote is combined.

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Light Colored States were within 4%

Democratic Ticket :   66,615,646   55.6% / 413 Electoral
John McCain (R-AZ) / Sarah Palin (R-AK)   53,253,777   44.4% / 125 Electoral

I was suprised simply because of how realistic this map came out, except for maybe Louisiana. West Virginia only stayed with the Republicans by about 6,500 votes, or half a percent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on November 01, 2009, 02:24:13 PM
A match-up in my new custom 2000 PF4+P scenario. Colin Powell gets drafted by the Republican Party after a deadlocked convention, choosing John McCain as his running mate. Everything else was the same. His massive popularity allows him to establish a massive lead by the time the general election starts, and despite attempts by the Gore campaign to tarnish his reputation, Powell wins in a landslide.

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Light Colored States were within 2%

Colin Powell (R-NY) / John McCain (R-AZ)  57,446,781  52.5%  /  486 Electoral
Al Gore (D-TN) / Joe Lieberman (D-CT)  46,592,447  42.6%  /  52 Electoral
Others (Nader, Buchanan, Browne, Phillips, Hagelin)  5,457,817  4.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on November 01, 2009, 03:38:20 PM
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Brett Valmont, NJ/Chuck Hagel, NE: 403 EV, 53.1%
Naveed Chowdhury, CA/Mark Warner, VA: 135 EV, 46.4%
Michael Badnarik, TX/Bob Barr, GA: 0 EV, 0.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on November 03, 2009, 01:57:01 PM
"Atlas Forever 2008" between Gutierrez and Coppersmith.

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(D)-Evan Gutierrez, IN/Joe Biden, DE: 355 EV, 52.2%
(R)-David Coppersmith, NC/John McCain, AZ: 183 EV, 46.2%
(Li)-Michael Badnarik, TX/Lance Brown, CA: 0 EV, 1.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on November 07, 2009, 12:06:48 AM
Played the Lahbas made "Wacked Edition - 2000" as Hagelin. Closest states were NM and IA, both decided by 0.4%.

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(Republican)-George W. Bush, TX/Dick Cheney, WY: 272 EV, 40%
(Democrat)-Al Gore, TN/Joe Lieberman, CT: 266 EV, 39.3%
(Reform)-Donald Trump, NY/David Boren, OK: 0 EV, 18.6%
(Green)-Ralph Nader, CT/Winona LaDuke, MN: 0 EV, 1.8%
(Natural Law)-John Hagelin, IA/Nat Goldhaber, CA: 0 EV, 0.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 07, 2009, 12:24:13 AM

1996 election, playing as Dole, and once again losing the popular vote...

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Republican Bob Dole of Kansas (48.2%) 300 electoral votes
Democrat Bill Clinton of Arkansas (48.7%) 238 electoral votes
Reformist Ross Perot of Texas (3.1%) 0 electoral votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 07, 2009, 09:01:13 PM
2004

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Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 388 electoral votes and 62,882,782 (54.9%) popular votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 150 electoral votes and 49,645,625 (43.4%) popular votes
Others (Nader, Badnarik, Peroutka) - 1,933,475 (1.7%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on November 09, 2009, 03:49:20 PM
This was a pretty easy election, I ran through my "1936-Four More Years?" scenario as Lemke.

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(Democratic)-Franklin D. Roosevelt, NY/John N. Garner, TX: 531 EV, 60.6%
(Republican)-Alf Landon, KS/Frank Knox, IL: 0 EV, 31.5%
(Union)-William Lemke, ND/Thomas C. O'Brien, MA: 0 EV, 7.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 15, 2009, 10:30:38 PM
I played as reagan in 84, ididint campaign at all and had the entire platform as far-left nad still managed to get 48% of the vote. Mondale won 317-221
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on November 21, 2009, 06:01:55 PM
Map Before Election ( With Tossups)
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Election Night

Mitt Romney 51%
Hillary Clinton 48%

Map Before Election (Without Tossups)
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Hillary Clinton 46% 273EV
Mitt Romney 53% 265EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: pogo stick on November 21, 2009, 07:51:09 PM
David Coppersmith (C) v. John McCain (R) v. Bill Richardson (D)

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Richardson /Hillary (D) : 40.05% (273)
Coppersmith / Palin (C) : 34.55% (165)
McCain / Lieberman (R) : 25.40% (100)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on November 21, 2009, 10:30:05 PM
Playing as Carter in 1980 on hard mode...

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Psychic Octopus on November 21, 2009, 10:38:44 PM
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McGovern/Jackson 271
Reagan/Bush 267


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on November 22, 2009, 04:38:52 PM
1984

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Senator Gary Hart (D-CO)/Senator Dale Bumpers (D-AR): 44% of the popular vote, 107 EV
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice-President George Bush (R-TX): 56% of the popular vote, 431 EV.

A bad loss, but not humiliating.

I was playing as Hart, and, thanks to Bumpers, I narrowly carried Arkansas, but my biggest achievement was making California competitive. Reagan won his home state by 2%. I think I'm going to play it from the primaries, hopefully knock out Mondale et al early, and fundraise like a lunatic for the general.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on November 22, 2009, 05:40:31 PM
1984, with primaries

Sorry for the double-post, by the way.

Okay, so, as I said, I've tried the 1984 scenario, playing as Colorado Senator Gary Hart, with the primaries switched on. It was... strange.

I was experimenting with an ad-heavy, campaigning-light, 'hands-off' strategy, largely as a result of my, y'know, laziness. With millions being spent each turn, my ad buys started to pay dividends as I established a hefty lead nationally. Then came the Maine primary, where I was tipped to win by a comfortable margin.

Alan Cranston won, as expected and, wait, what? Okay, well, that was a weird glitch, but I was still heavily favoured in New Hampshire, which was promptly won by Reubin Askew. What's more, and I can't stress this enough, Askew won New Hampshire in a landslide. I think there was a thirty-point gap between Askew and the runner-up, me. Christ.

Askew won in Iowa, and for a bizzare moment it looked as if the Democratic nomination would come down to a battle between Alan Cranston and Reubin Askew, but I managed to recover enough to win some crucial states, and eventually regain the momentum. Mondale won a smattering of primaries, Cranston carried Virginia and Florida because, I guess, why the hell not?, Askew took Nevada, South Carolina, Georgia and Delaware, and for some reason Fritz Hollings took Connecticut, but I manged to eventually clinch the nomination with a last-minute win in Oregon.

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Gary Hart
Walter Mondale
Fritz Hollings
Alan Cranston, or Alan Cranston since you probably can't read that text.
Reubin Askew

The gruelling, weird primary's taken its toll, though. I gulped when I entered the general election to a sea of dark red, Reagan leading with 70% in the polls, and the message 'It is now a tie in Washington, D.C.' flashing in front of my eyes.

To be continued...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 22, 2009, 09:53:33 PM
UK Presidential Election, 2010

Here's the scenario from the theory spark website:
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The passing of Queen Elizabeth II came as a shock and great sadness to many. However, it also sparked a debate on the future of the monarchy, a debate that Prince Charles and the monarchists lost. Now, Britain goes to the polls for the first time ever to elect a President.
183 electoral votes are needed for a majority.

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The Rt. Hon. Gordon Brown, Prime Minister (LAB - South Scotland)/The Rt. Hon. Jack Straw, MP (LAB - North West) - 260 electoral votes and 11,129,201 (45.1%) popular votes
The Rt. Hon. Paddy Ashdown (LD - Dorset & Somerset)/Lembit Öpik, MP (LD - Mid-Wales) - 63 electoral votes and 5,840,068 (23.7%) popular votes
Boris Johnson, Mayor of London (CON - Greater London)/The Rt. Hon. Baroness Sayeeda Warsi (CON-Yorkshire) - 39 electoral votes and 7,717,378 (31.3%) popular votes

My narrative (i'm very bored at the moment):
The Prime Minister turned his popularity around as he seamlessly pulled the country along the transition from the United Kingdom to the United Republic. Brown quickly becomes the best possible candidate that the Labour Party could field for the position of President of the United Republic.

The parallel Parlimentary election brings a Labour-Liberal Democratic coalition government, but with the Conservatives being the largest single party. The new parliment is headed by Ed Milliband. David Cameron, expecting his party to easily sweep to victory, refused to run in the Presidential Election, instead deciding to endorse none other than Boris Johnson. Nick Clegg, expecting a hung parliment, also refused to run endorsing a party elder, Paddy Ashdown.

As the campaign began, Gordon Brown and Paddy Ashdown both agreed to a none aggression pact, both deciding to attack Johnson. Brown easily built up a lead in the early weeks of the campaign, eventually breaking into traditional Tory strongholds, down south. Ashdown secured leads in the south-west and Northern Scotland. The Johnson campaign began to crumble further as areas such as Kent and Essex ended up firmly placed in the Brown column.

On Election Night, as expected, Brown was declared the President-Elect, winning in a 14-point margin over Johnson, who placed in a distant third in the electoral college.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 23, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) - 347 electoral votes and 71,927,325 (55.5%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) - 191 electoral votes and 53,265,931 (41.1%) popular votes
Others - 4,375,002 (3.4%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 24, 2009, 02:52:49 PM
1992 Cuomo vs Bush vs Perot
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on November 28, 2009, 09:30:13 PM
Duncan Hunter leads the Republican Party to victory and pushes Obama aside in one of the largest landslides in American History! Barack Obama goes back to his senate seat in shame.

(I honestly have NO idea what happened. I ran as Hunter, aiming to get him into position for a VP position. Both parties went to the convention, leading to about 45% of the US being undecided. I guess I kind of exploited it...............but that gives no excuse to the AI!)

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Duncan Hunter (R-CA)/Charlie Christ (R-FL)          68,901,890     69.4% / 538 Electoral
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)          30,344,489     30.6% / 0 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on November 28, 2009, 09:37:18 PM
Duncan Hunter leads the Republican Party to victory and pushes Obama aside in one of the largest landslides in American History! Barack Obama goes back to his senate seat in shame.

(I honestly have NO idea what happened. I ran as Hunter, aiming to get him into position for a VP position. Both parties went to the convention, leading to about 45% of the US being undecided. I guess I kind of exploited it...............but that gives no excuse to the AI!)

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Duncan Hunter (R-CA)/Charlie Christ (R-FL)          68,901,890     69.4% / 538 Electoral
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)          30,344,489     30.6% / 0 Electoral

A Republican beating Obama by over 60-40 in DC? It might be time to toss this game in the garbage.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on November 29, 2009, 12:37:37 PM
The AI is... fickle.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 30, 2009, 07:27:03 PM
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Gore/Obama - 317 ev/52.3%
Romney/Allen - 221 ev/44%
Others - 3.7%

I have no idea how I carried Kansas and North Dakota, neither Gore nor Obama visited there once and I think I ran one commercial in those state during the whole game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 30, 2009, 07:52:41 PM
I got this far as Ron Paul in the primaries. I didint think it was possible for him to win much in presidents forever.
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 30, 2009, 08:13:00 PM
I just cheated the electoral college on the 2008 scenario :)

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John McCain/Chuck Hagel - 328 evs/44.7%
Hillary Clinton/Barbara Boxer - 210 evs/52.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on December 02, 2009, 12:12:41 AM
My 2012 Enhanced Election Scenario. It was close but Obama pulled it out over Romney in the final weeks. A note, Puerto Rico is a state in said scenario with 7 electoral votes.

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(D)-Pres. Barack Obama, IL/VP. Joe Biden, DE: 305 EV, 50.7%
(R)-Fmr Gov. Mitt Romney, MA/Gov. Andre Bauer, SC: 240 EV, 46.4%
(Con)-Ms. Diane Beall Templin, CA/Mr. Chuck Baldwin, FL: 0 EV, 2.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 02, 2009, 05:40:23 AM
My 2012 Enhanced Election Scenario. It was close but Obama pulled it out over Romney in the final weeks. A note, Puerto Rico is a state in said scenario with 7 electoral votes.

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(D)-Pres. Barack Obama, IL/VP. Joe Biden, DE: 305 EV, 50.7%
(R)-Fmr Gov. Mitt Romney, MA/Gov. Andre Bauer, SC: 240 EV, 46.4%
(Con)-Ms. Diane Beall Templin, CA/Mr. Chuck Baldwin, FL: 0 EV, 2.9%

Do you mind uploading that please?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on December 02, 2009, 09:49:43 AM
My 2012 Enhanced Election Scenario. It was close but Obama pulled it out over Romney in the final weeks. A note, Puerto Rico is a state in said scenario with 7 electoral votes.

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(D)-Pres. Barack Obama, IL/VP. Joe Biden, DE: 305 EV, 50.7%
(R)-Fmr Gov. Mitt Romney, MA/Gov. Andre Bauer, SC: 240 EV, 46.4%
(Con)-Ms. Diane Beall Templin, CA/Mr. Chuck Baldwin, FL: 0 EV, 2.9%

Do you mind uploading that please?
It may take some time, I still haven't found out how to upload such things as the 2012 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on December 02, 2009, 10:25:49 AM
Another go ahead in my 2012 enhanced scenario. Puerto Rico and Arizona were the closest states, if both went to Petraeus, then the nation would have a President-Elect Petraeus instead of the close reelection of Barack Obama.

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(D)-Pres. Barack Obama, IL/VP. Joe Biden, DE: 285 EV, 48.4%
(R)-Gen. David Petraeus, NY/Gov. Luis Fortuno, PR: 260 EV, 48.8%
(I)-Mr. Lou Dobbs, NJ/Candidate Samuel Wurzelbacher, OH: 0 EV, 2.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 02, 2009, 10:42:08 AM
(I)-Mr. Lou Dobbs, NJ/Candidate Samuel Wurzelbacher, OH: 0 EV, 2.9%

Love it. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 04, 2009, 01:18:48 AM
Election 1980:

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Democrat James Carter of Georgia/John Glenn of Ohio 47% (351 electoral votes)
Republican Ronald Reagan of California/George H.W. Bush of Texas 43.9% (187 electoral votes)
Independent John Anderson of Illinois/Patrick Lucey of Wisconsin 9.1% (0 electoral votes)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 04, 2009, 03:57:53 PM
1948:

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Republican Robert A. Taft of Ohio/ Douglas MacArthur of Arkansas 58.6% (434 electoral votes)
Democrat Harry S. Truman of Missouri/ Alben Barkley of Kentucky 34.3% (58 electoral votes)
Dixiecrat J. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina/ Fielding Wright of Mississippi 3% (38 electoral votes)
Progressive Henry Wallace of Iowa/ Glen Taylor of Idaho 4.2% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 04, 2009, 05:09:49 PM
1976

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Governor James "Jimmy" Carter (D-GA)/Senator Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 295 electoral votes and 52,737,833 (52.8%) popular votes
President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) - 244 electoral votes and 45,457,645 (45.5%) popular votes
Eugene McCarthy (I-MN) - 1,640,905 (1.6%) popular votes

Despite the safe popular vote win for Carter, the electoral vote was extremely close, with the election being decided by 1.4% of the Illinois vote. Carter swept the south deep south, winning by safe margins everywhere except for Louisiana (decided by 1.3%). Ford did poorly in "safe" Republican states, not reaching 60% in any state nationwide. The result was closer than expected due to Ford sweeping undecideds in many of the toss-up/lean Democratic states. This resulted in surprising losses for Carter in states like Minnesota, Texas, Wisconsin, Maryland and Ohio.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 04, 2009, 08:12:38 PM
2012 Obama vs Romney vs Ventura
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Obama/Vilsack -  42.1%, 227 EV
Romney/Allen - 44.7%, 301, EV
Ventura/Barkley - 12.6%, 10 EV
Ventura took away more votes from Obama then from Romney


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 04, 2009, 09:08:45 PM
Ventura/Barkley's not possible.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 04, 2009, 09:13:04 PM

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 04, 2009, 09:15:22 PM

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).

Exactly. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 04, 2009, 11:59:59 PM

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).

Exactly. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible.
I just used Barkely so the home state bonus could allow ventura to win at least that one state narrowly


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 05, 2009, 12:03:03 AM

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).

Exactly. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible.
I just used Barkely so the home state bonus could allow ventura to win at least that one state narrowly

You could just give Ventura a larger home state bonus for himself.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 05, 2009, 06:18:08 PM
1996

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President Bill J. Clinton (D-AR)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 316 electoral votes and 44,936,240 (37.9%) popular votes
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)/Former Representative Jack Kemp (R-NY-31) - 142 electoral votes and 40,186,688 (33.9%) popular votes
Ross Perot (Reform-TX)/Pat Choate (Reform-DC) - 80 electoral votes and 33,535,522 (28.3%) popular votes

I played at Perot. The electoral would have gone to the house if Illinois, Wisconsin, Utah, Maine had flipped to Perot with Nevada, New Hampshire and Georgia flipping to Gramm. The closest state was New Hampshire which Clinton won by 8 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 05, 2009, 11:59:52 PM

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).

Exactly. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible.
I just used Barkely so the home state bonus could allow ventura to win at least that one state narrowly

You could just give Ventura a larger home state bonus for himself.
One of them could change residence. Same thing happened with Cheney and Bush in 2000, since they were both legally residents of Texas. Cheney changed his residence to Wyoming, where he had been a Representative, so it would not become a problem


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on December 06, 2009, 02:40:57 AM

How the F*** did McGovern/Jackson win?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 06, 2009, 10:09:59 PM
Jerry Brown for President
The Primaries

I decided to run in the 1992 scenario as John Brown, the weakest candidate of them all (including Harkin, who I have won as easily twice). The major concern that was dealt with was the camapign organisation, taking over 15 weeks to upgrade. Since funds were also scarce, and there were no crusaders, Brown himself has to campaign in various states, depending on footsoldiers to work for him in areas he could not reach. In the end, it proved to be a slugfest between Clinton and Brown, each having upset the other in certain primaries. However, Clinton at the close of the North Dakota primary maintained a narrow lead in the delegate count..........

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Bill Clinton - 1203 delegates
Jerry Brown - 1038 delegates
Paul Tsongas - 672 delegates
Bob Kerrey - 494 delegates

Lost at the Convention overwhelmingly. Here are the numbers.......

Bill Clinton - 2217 delegates
Jerry Brown - 1190 delegates

Apparently the character is too polorizing. He choose me for Vice President though......


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on December 06, 2009, 11:52:02 PM
John Brown?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 07, 2009, 07:20:42 AM
Thanks for pointing that out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on December 07, 2009, 04:50:15 PM
Jerry Brown for President
The Primaries

I decided to run in the 1992 scenario as John Brown, the weakest candidate of them all (including Harkin, who I have won as easily twice). The major concern that was dealt with was the camapign organisation, taking over 15 weeks to upgrade. Since funds were also scarce, and there were no crusaders, Brown himself has to campaign in various states, depending on footsoldiers to work for him in areas he could not reach. In the end, it proved to be a slugfest between Clinton and Brown, each having upset the other in certain primaries. However, Clinton at the close of the North Dakota primary maintained a narrow lead in the delegate count..........

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Bill Clinton - 1203 delegates
Jerry Brown - 1038 delegates
Paul Tsongas - 672 delegates
Bob Kerrey - 494 delegates

Lost at the Convention overwhelmingly. Here are the numbers.......

Bill Clinton - 2217 delegates
Jerry Brown - 1190 delegates

Apparently the character is too polorizing. He choose me for Vice President though......

Heh, I actually wrote an alternative history on another site in which Jerry Brown became President of the United States. This was in 1976, his first try, though I briefly considered setting the timeline in 1992. Bill Clinton became the bestselling celebrity chef in the country.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 09, 2009, 01:47:31 AM
1948:

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Democrat Richard Russell of Georgia/ Alben Barkley of Kentucky 52.6% (348 electoral votes)
Republican Thomas E. Dewey of New York/ Earl Warren of California 43.8% (182 electoral votes)
Progressive Henry Wallace of Iowa/ Glen Taylor of Idaho 3.5% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on December 09, 2009, 02:44:54 PM
Another run of my 2012 enhanced with all the political parties in the game as of now.

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(D)-Pres. Barack Obama, IL/Sec. State Hillary Clinton, NY: 425 EV, 51.9%
(R)-Fmr Gov. Sarah Palin, AK/Fmr Gov. Tim Pawlenty, MN: 120 EV, 40.8%
(C)-Mr. Darrell Castle, TN/Ms. Diane Beall Templin, CA: 0 EV, 2.2%
(L)-Mr. Wayne Root, NV/Mr. Mike Jingozian, OR: 0 EV, 2.1%
(I)-Mr. Ralph Nader, CT/Fmr Mayor Jason West, NY: 0 EV, 1.7%
(I)-Mr. Lou Dobbs, NJ/Fmr Sen. Dean Barkley, MN: 0 EV, 1.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 09, 2009, 04:42:37 PM
1968 election

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Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/Senator Ed Muskie (D-ME) - 308 electoral votes and 34,826,476 (43.6%) popular votes
Former Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD) - 139 electoral votes and 31,786,505 (39.8%) popular votes
Former Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) - 91 electoral votes and 13,281,919 (16.6%) popular votes

I played at Humphrey/Muskie.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 09, 2009, 05:40:38 PM
1968 election

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Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Senator Howard Baker (R-TN) - 218 electoral votes and 30,981,364 (38.8%) popular votes
President Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 208 electoral votes and 28,503,473 (35.7%) popular votes
Former Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/General Curtis LeMay (AI-CA) - 112 electoral votes and 20,410,063 (25.5%) popular votes

This time I played as Wallace/LeMay and the Republican dominated congress elected Romney.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 09, 2009, 05:43:47 PM
1976
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Ford: 48.6%
Carter: 42.7%
McCarthy: 8.6%
I played as McCarthy. Focused a lot on California, and got 27.5% of the vote. I also got 14.1% of the vote in Arizona, 14.7% in Pennylsvania, and 15.7% in Texas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 10, 2009, 08:05:01 PM
1936 election - well that was easy

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Roosevelt - 531 electoral votes/67.4% PV
Landon - 0 electoral votes/28.4% PV
Others (Lemke, Thomas, Browder) - 4.1% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 11, 2009, 12:20:58 PM
Does anyone know if there are any 1860, 1964 or 1972 scenarios in existance?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 13, 2009, 05:09:51 PM
2008 - enhanced

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Look familiar? :P

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 364 electoral votes and 72,146,897 (54.9%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 174 electoral votes and 55,203,953 (42.0%) popular votes
Others (Barr, Baldwin) - 3% of the popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on December 14, 2009, 02:58:04 PM
Does anyone know if there are any 1860, 1964 or 1972 scenarios in existance?

I think they are all being worked on.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on December 14, 2009, 05:17:32 PM
2008 - enhanced

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Look familiar? :P

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 364 electoral votes and 72,146,897 (54.9%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 174 electoral votes and 55,203,953 (42.0%) popular votes
Others (Barr, Baldwin) - 3% of the popular vote

That's so unrealistic! What kind of mediocre simulation is this!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 14, 2009, 07:45:14 PM
2008

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Obama/Kaine - 456 EVs/56.1% PV
Paul/Giuliani - 82 EVs/37.5% PV
Others - 6.4% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 15, 2009, 09:10:43 AM
2008:

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Republican Ron Paul of Texas/Gary Johnson of New Mexico 54.5% 430 electoral votes
Democrat Barack Obama of Illinois/Joe Biden of Delaware 45.5% 108 electoral votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 15, 2009, 11:27:35 AM
2008:

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Republican Ron Paul of Texas/Gary Johnson of New Mexico 54.5% 430 electoral votes
Democrat Barack Obama of Illinois/Joe Biden of Delaware 45.5% 108 electoral votes

What's even funnier is that Obama still wins West Virginia and Georgia. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 15, 2009, 05:47:55 PM
1992

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Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Lee Hamilton (D-IN)     47,717,328  /  486 Electoral
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Jack Kemp (R-NY)     36,062,550  /  35 Electoral
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA)     26,316,986  /  17 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 15, 2009, 07:07:21 PM
2008:

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Republican Ron Paul of Texas/Gary Johnson of New Mexico 54.5% 430 electoral votes
Democrat Barack Obama of Illinois/Joe Biden of Delaware 45.5% 108 electoral votes

What's even funnier is that Obama still wins West Virginia and Georgia. :P

Mississippi and Kansas were also flipping back and forth on election night. (Along with WA, RI, and NJ)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 16, 2009, 10:53:44 AM
First test run of my "1980 - Wacked Edition" without Koch from primaries.

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Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/George H. W. Bush (R-TX)     36,943,831  43.9%  /  369 Electoral
Jimmy Carter  (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN)     32,461,298  38.6%  /  158 Electoral
John Anderson (I-IL)/Patrick Lucey (I-WS)     14,722,551  17.5%  /  11 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 17, 2009, 01:50:33 PM
2008.............................GINGRICH'S AMERICA

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Light-Colored states are within 3% of the two contendors

Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Mitt Romney (R-MA)     75,372,548  58.4% / 468 Electoral
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Claire McCaskilll (D-MO)     53,647,745  41.6% / 70 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ilikeverin on December 18, 2009, 09:18:58 AM

It is, electors in Minnesota just couldn't vote for them though (right?).

Exactly. Therefore, for all intents and purposes, it is impossible.
I just used Barkely so the home state bonus could allow ventura to win at least that one state narrowly

Eww, Ventura could never win Minnesota in a presidential election.  I think Barkley would be more likely to win Minnesota than Ventura.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 18, 2009, 08:59:10 PM
2004

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Dean/Bayh - 335 EVs/52.7% PV
Bush/Cheney - 203 EVS/44.7% PV
Others - 2.6% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 19, 2009, 01:39:59 PM
2008

I put myself in the game as a Democrat, so yeah. The player below is me.


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Governor James Ali (Me) (D-MA)/Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA) - 518 EVs/58.2% PV
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich (R-GA) - 20 EVs/35.1%
Others (Badnarik/Peroutka) - 6.7% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 19, 2009, 06:20:54 PM
2008 - One of the closest election campaigns I have ever run. Me and Hillary were never apart by more than 0.5% in the national polls.......ever. The status quo was eventually broken, but it was a nail-biter until Ohio was called.

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All Light - Colored states are within 3% of the runnerup. A change of about 50,000 votes in Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada would have given Hillary the election.

Mike Huckabee (R-AK)/Mitt Romney (R-MA)     66,165,192  51.3% / 287 Electoral
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)     62,855,101  48.7% / 251 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on December 19, 2009, 06:46:29 PM
Pay Back for 2000!


Hillary Vs Rudy 2008
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Spread

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Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 57,569,175 49.1% 276EV
Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) 58,328,071 49.8% 262EV

Close states 0-2%

New Mexico +0.1% 566
West Virginia +0.2% 610
Maine +0.9% 5,035
New Hampshire +1.3% 7,362
Arkansas +1.6% 17,886
Oregon +2.0% 25,722
 





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 19, 2009, 09:05:16 PM
1948:

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Republican Robert A. Taft of Ohio/Douglas MacArthur of Arkansas 53.7% (413 electoral votes)

Democrat Richard Russell of Georgia/J. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina 42.5% (118 electoral votes)
Progressive Henry Wallace of Iowa/Glen Taylor of Idaho 3.8% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 20, 2009, 05:15:11 PM
1988

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Bush/Quayle - 271 EVs/46.1% PV
Gore/Dukakis - 267 EVs/48.8% PV

I played as Gore. The EV totals are exactly the same as 2000... another Bush Vs. Gore.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 21, 2009, 04:24:48 PM
2008

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Light - Colored States are within 3% of the runnerup

Fred Thompson (R-TN)/Mitt Romney (R-MA)     71,285,786  55.4% / 343 Electoral
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Chuck Hagel (R-NE)     57,318,167  44.6% / 195 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 22, 2009, 02:08:42 PM
2004

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Light Colored States are within 10% of the runner-up

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY)     71,463,538  74.3% / 538 Electoral
John Kerry (D-MA)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)     24,739,598  25.7% / 0 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on December 22, 2009, 02:27:05 PM
2004

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Light Colored States are within 10% of the runner-up

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY)     71,463,538  74.3% / 538 Electoral
John Kerry (D-MA)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)     24,739,598  25.7% / 0 Electoral

OMG!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: RIP Robert H Bork on December 23, 2009, 02:12:01 PM
2004

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Light Colored States are within 10% of the runner-up

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY)     71,463,538  74.3% / 538 Electoral
John Kerry (D-MA)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)     24,739,598  25.7% / 0 Electoral

:D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on December 23, 2009, 02:45:53 PM
2004

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Light Colored States are within 10% of the runner-up

George W. Bush (R-TX)/Dick Cheney (R-WY)     71,463,538  74.3% / 538 Electoral
John Kerry (D-MA)/Bill Richardson (D-NM)     24,739,598  25.7% / 0 Electoral

Rigged.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 23, 2009, 03:01:57 PM
If you play the 2004 scenario starting from the primaries, its ridiculously broken. Every state will turn Republican solid for Bush before the general election even starts.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 23, 2009, 05:30:19 PM
If you play the 2004 scenario starting from the primaries, its ridiculously broken. Every state will turn Republican solid for Bush before the general election even starts.
Yeah, that is true. When you play as the Democrats, the only real chance at managing a win is to become the frontrunner early, and overwhelmingly.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on December 23, 2009, 05:33:59 PM
1976 : McCarthy

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Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Richard Schwiecker (R-PA)     42,045,125  42.3% / 456 Electoral
Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Sargent Shriver (D-VT)     35,407,857  35.6% / 70 Electoral
Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/None     21,878,671  22% / 13 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 23, 2009, 07:58:39 PM
1960

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J. F. Kennedy/Johnson - 392 EVs/53.9% PV
Rockefeller/Hruska - 144 EVs/45.0% PV
Byrd/Thurmond - 1.1% PV (Lost MS by 0.8%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 23, 2009, 09:15:06 PM
Have they released a 1960 scenario yet or was that made on campaign forever?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 23, 2009, 09:35:10 PM
Have they released a 1960 scenario yet or was that made on campaign forever?

Campaign Forever, I found it on the theory spark forum. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 24, 2009, 07:44:31 AM
2004:

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Howard Dean of Vermont/ Evan Bayh of Indiana 53.3% (402 electoral votes)
George W. Bush of Texas/ Dick Cheney of Wyoming 44.6% (136 electoral votes)
Michael Badnarik of Texas/ Lance Brown of California 0.7% (0 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader of Connecticut/ Peter Camejo of California 0.6% (0 electoral votes)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vosem on December 24, 2009, 08:54:03 AM
2004:

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Howard Dean of Vermont/ Evan Bayh of Indiana 53.3% (402 electoral votes)
George W. Bush of Texas/ Dick Cheney of Wyoming 44.6% (136 electoral votes)
Michael Badnarik of Texas/ Lance Brown of California 0.7% (0 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader of Connecticut/ Peter Camejo of California 0.6% (0 electoral votes)



And with a semi-realistic map to boot.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Psychic Octopus on December 24, 2009, 04:31:48 PM
2004:

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Howard Dean of Vermont/ Evan Bayh of Indiana 53.3% (402 electoral votes)
George W. Bush of Texas/ Dick Cheney of Wyoming 44.6% (136 electoral votes)
Michael Badnarik of Texas/ Lance Brown of California 0.7% (0 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader of Connecticut/ Peter Camejo of California 0.6% (0 electoral votes)



And with a semi-realistic map to boot.


Yeah, quick question, what were the figures in West Virginia and Texas?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 24, 2009, 04:36:50 PM
2004:

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Howard Dean of Vermont/ Evan Bayh of Indiana 53.3% (402 electoral votes)
George W. Bush of Texas/ Dick Cheney of Wyoming 44.6% (136 electoral votes)
Michael Badnarik of Texas/ Lance Brown of California 0.7% (0 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader of Connecticut/ Peter Camejo of California 0.6% (0 electoral votes)



And with a semi-realistic map to boot.


Yeah, quick question, what were the figures in West Virginia and Texas?

I had to reload from a saved game, so the figures might have been off a bit but...

West Virginia
Bush 49.6%
Dean 47.7%

Texas
Bush 57.8%
Dean 40.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 24, 2009, 07:24:56 PM
2004

Democratic Primary
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Blue - Governor Dean
Red - Senator Lieberman
Green - General Clark


General Election
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Dean/Kerry - 299 EVs/46.2% PV
Bush/Rick - 239 EVs/43.0% PV
Others (Nader, Badnarik, Peroutka) - 10.7% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on December 25, 2009, 01:49:45 AM
Anyone have 1912?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 25, 2009, 02:10:30 AM
1992:

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Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota/ George S. McGovern of South Dakota 45% (443 electoral votes)
George H.W. Bush of Texas/ J. Danforth Quayle of Indiana 38.8% (95 electoral votes)
H. Ross Perot of Texas/ James Stockdale of California 16.2% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on December 26, 2009, 12:01:28 AM


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 26, 2009, 12:41:05 PM
1976 Democratic primaries

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Governor George Wallace
Congressman Mo Udall
Senator Birch Bayh
Senator Frank Church
Governor Jerry Brown


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 26, 2009, 05:59:51 PM
The rather fun and cheesy 'New Zealand President 2010' scenario.

Playing as Brash (National). I was massively down in polls and...

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Brash/Key (National) 40.6% / 64 EV
Anderton/Clark (Labour) 32.2% / 2 EV
Peters/FitzSimmons (Democratic Coalition) 27.1% / 2 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 27, 2009, 09:46:16 PM
2008 - enhanced

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Obama/H. R. Clinton - 476 EVs/64.4% PV
McCain/Crist - 62 EVs/30.9% PV
Others (Root and Baldwin) - 4.6% PV

An endorsement for Obama from Fred Thompson helped quite a bit. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 29, 2009, 08:32:10 PM
1968

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Humphrey - 353 EVs/45.8% PV
Nixon - 108 EVs/34.9% PV
Wallace - 77 EVs/19.3% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 29, 2009, 10:12:20 PM
Is the 1968 scenario available for PF+P 2008?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on December 30, 2009, 03:59:36 PM
Question:

Are there any candidates on any of the scenarios with a charisma rating of 1? I know Kerry and Gore both have a 2.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on December 30, 2009, 04:33:53 PM

I found it on the theory spark forum. Here's a download link:

http://www.mediafire.com/?dfodmowjyoj (http://www.mediafire.com/?dfodmowjyoj)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on December 30, 2009, 09:13:13 PM
Obama (D-IL) vs Mccain (R-AZ) vs ME (L-CA) vs Other 08

My closest Election Yet!


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Obama 52,485,451 44.3% 289EV
Mccain 53,077,830 44.8% 249EV
Me 10,662,959 9.0% 0EV
Other 2,251,069 1.9% 0EV

5 Closest States

1.Nevada +0.01% 72
2.Ohio +0.04% 2,187
3.New Mexico +0.9% 7,164
4.Iowa +0.9% 11,517
5.New Hampshire +1.6% 7,694

Obama's Best States


Massachusetts  58.2%
New York 56.0%
Rhode Island 55.2%
Vermont 54.7%
Maryland 51.6%


Obama's Worst States


1.Utah 24.6%
2.Wyoming 27.2%
3.Idaho 28.1%
4.Nebraska 30.6%
5.Oklahoma 32.0%

Mccain's Best States

1.Utah 64.6%
2.Wyoming 62.1%
3.Idaho 61.2%
4.Oklahoma 59.6%
5.Nebraska 58.8%

Mccain's Worst States

1.Massachusetts 33.3%
2.New York 34.0%
3.Vermont 34.7%
4.California 37.0%
5.Maryland 38.0%

My Best State

California 14.3%














Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on December 31, 2009, 12:15:05 AM
Al Gore vs Rudy Giuliani  2008

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Al Gore 56.3% EV 502
Rudy Giuliani 42.1% EV 36
Other 1.6% EV 0

I campaigned mostly In the Southeast to see what happened and I ended up winning all of the Southeast.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on December 31, 2009, 01:27:02 PM
1976:

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R. Sargent Shriver of Maryland/ Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota 57.6% (502 electoral votes)

Gerald Ford of Michigan/ Robert Dole of Kansas 42.4% (36 electoral votes)


Closest States:
Indiana 0.2%
Alaska 0.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on January 02, 2010, 10:17:32 PM
1968 I played as Wallace and eged out Nixon to get 2nd in electoral college and throw it to the House where Nixon won
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Bobby Kennedy - 265 EV, 38% PV
Dick Nixon - 135 EV,  34% PV
George Wallace 138 EV, 27% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GLPman on January 03, 2010, 03:36:46 PM
My first President Forever game. I ran as Gore in 2000 and chose Gephardt as a running mate.

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Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) / Rep. Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 291 EVs, 48.4%
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) - 247 EVs, 47.7%
Ralph Nader / Winona LaDuke - 0 EVs, 3.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on January 04, 2010, 01:00:48 PM
2008

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Obama/Biden - 406 EVs/57.7% PV
McCain/Jeb Bush - 132 EVs/42.3% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on January 04, 2010, 02:50:29 PM
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Al Gore (TN)/Jeanne Shaheen (NH) 286 electoral votes, and 51,817,071 popular votes (48.1%)
George W. Bush (TX)/Dick Cheney (WY) 252 electoral votes, and 51,364,392 popular votes (47.6%)
Ralph Nader (CT)/Winona LaDuke (MN) 0 electoral votes, and 3,785,369 popular votes (3.5%)

I played as Nader, whose best state was Alaska with 11.1% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on January 04, 2010, 04:32:17 PM
2008 Democratic Primaries:

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Evan Bayh
Hillary Clinton
Barack Obama

Despite leading in the delegate count substantially, Bayh lost the nomination at the convention after Clinton dropped out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GLPman on January 04, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
2008 - I played as Thompson and won against Clinton in the most bizzare election I've ever seen.

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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) - 91 EVs, 42.5%
Fmr. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) / Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 447 EVs, 57.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on January 04, 2010, 09:59:57 PM
2008 - I played as Thompson and won against Clinton in the most bizzare election I've ever seen.

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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) - 91 EVs, 42.5%
Fmr. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) / Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 447 EVs, 57.5%


Bizarre. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on January 04, 2010, 10:09:23 PM
2008 - I played as Thompson and won against Clinton in the most bizzare election I've ever seen.

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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) - 91 EVs, 42.5%
Fmr. Senator Fred Thompson (R-TN) / Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 447 EVs, 57.5%


The most funny map I've ever seen


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on January 05, 2010, 10:11:42 PM
2008 I played as Warner
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Warner/Bayh 434 EV, 53% PV
Guiliani/Owens 104 EV, 45% PV
Others 2%
I tried to focus on the south. toward the end Rudy started gaing a ton of momentum and surged back from the low 30's and if the game last 2 or three more turns, he might have won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GLPman on January 05, 2010, 11:11:56 PM
2008 - I played as Clark. The closest states were North Dakota and Montana. Ignore NE-2.

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Fmr. United States General Wesley Clark (D-AR) / Governor Timothy Kaine (D-VA) - 396 EVs, 53.4%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) / Governor Sonny Perdue (R-GA) - 142 EVs, 46.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on January 10, 2010, 08:21:38 PM
2008 Clinton (D) vs Paul (R) vs Me (I)
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I edited myself into the game as an Independent. By some act of God Ron Paul won the GOP primaries. for a while Paul was leading but I ended up spliting the vote with him allowing Clinton to win.
Clinton 45% PV, 460 EV   
Paul 37% PV, 64% EV
Me 20% PV, 14% EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GLPman on January 11, 2010, 02:10:53 PM
2004 - I played as Dean. I would have won Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania if Bush didn't hit me with two scandals in final week. Third parties didn't help, either. Pennsylvania was the closest state; I lost by 0.4%

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Governor Howard B. Dean (D-VT) / Senator John B. Breaux (D-LA) - 247 EVs, 47.7%
President George W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Richard "Dick" Cheney (R-WY) - 291 EVs, 48.4%
Other - 0 EVs, 3.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on January 11, 2010, 04:48:21 PM
2008 - I ran as Mitt Romney. I solified my leads in the lead-off states, and won every one except South Carolina, where I lost by two points to McCain. After that, the election swayed heavily in my favor, and I won Super Tuesday. Thompson won Tennesse, McCain ended up winning abou 10 states, and Gingrich won Georgia. McCain took it to the convention, and lost. I chose Sarah Palin as my running mate.
It was wonk edition on Hard, so I expected it to be difficult, but it wasn't. The Democrats were divided, and Obama eeked out a narrow victory. The election was a cakewalk for Romney...

Romney/Palin: 58% 75.3 million votes   452 EV
Obama/Zinni: 40.2% 52.9 million votes   86 EV
Barr/Root: 1.2% 1.5 million votes            00 EV

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California and Illinois were the closest states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on January 11, 2010, 07:56:26 PM
Primaries

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Romney- Red
Gingrich- Blue
McCain- Green


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on January 14, 2010, 08:23:16 AM
President Forever... where thinga absolutely impossible are possible

2008 - I ran as Mitt Romney. I solified my leads in the lead-off states, and won every one except South Carolina, where I lost by two points to McCain. After that, the election swayed heavily in my favor, and I won Super Tuesday. Thompson won Tennesse, McCain ended up winning abou 10 states, and Gingrich won Georgia. McCain took it to the convention, and lost. I chose Sarah Palin as my running mate.
It was wonk edition on Hard, so I expected it to be difficult, but it wasn't. The Democrats were divided, and Obama eeked out a narrow victory. The election was a cakewalk for Romney...

Romney/Palin: 58% 75.3 million votes   452 EV
Obama/Zinni: 40.2% 52.9 million votes   86 EV
Barr/Root: 1.2% 1.5 million votes            00 EV

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California and Illinois were the closest states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on January 16, 2010, 12:43:07 AM
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Clinton 3EV 29.7%PV
Bush 478EV 39.9%PV
Perot 57EV 30.4%PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on January 17, 2010, 03:46:55 PM
I ran as Johnson in 2012. One of my best performances ever. I started last in the primaries, and ended up winning the nomination, focusing on western states. Selected Romney as my Vice President. Clinton challenged Obama for the nomination, and barely won. She chose Clark. Here is the interesting map...

Johnson: 51.6%
Clinton: 45.6%
Bloomberg: 2.8%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on January 17, 2010, 11:18:12 PM
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Governor Mario Cuomo (NY)/Governor Ann Richards (TX) - 501 electoral votes, and 46,992,456 popular votes (45.2%)
President George Bush (TX)/Vice President Dan Quayle (IN) - 37 electoral votes, and 34,772,125 popular votes (33.4%)
Businessman H. Ross Perot (TX)/Admiral James Stockdale (CA) - 0 electoral votes, and 22,279,971 popular votes (21.4%)

I played as Perot, and actually did about five percent better than the polls on election day had me doing. I came within four points of winning Maine. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on January 21, 2010, 04:16:03 PM
2008:

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Al Gore/ Hillary Clinton 59.3% (466 electoral votes)
Mitt Romney/ Mike Huckabee 39.1% (72 electoral votes)
Chuck Baldwin/Darrell Castle 1.1% (0 electoral votes)
Mary Ruwart/Wayne Root 0.6% (0 electoral votes)


Gore doesn't seem to have good luck when it comes to Florida...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on January 21, 2010, 04:40:21 PM
Carter/Glenn vs Reagan/Crane vs Anderson/Lucey

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on January 21, 2010, 05:55:59 PM
2012 Johnson vs Obama
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on January 23, 2010, 09:29:03 PM
Funny result in 1980

Governor Hugh Carey (D-NY) / Senator William Proxmire (D-AR) 387 EV, 52.8% of the popular vote

Former Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Rep. George Bush (D-TX) 151 EV, 47.2% of the popular vote.


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That's a weird election if I've ever seen one. A perfect Eastern-Western split, at least ignoring Alaska and Hawaii.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on January 27, 2010, 09:38:03 PM
1992:

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George H.W. Bush/ Pete Wilson 45.5% (409 electoral votes)
Bill Clinton/ Al Gore 40.5% (129 electoral votes)
Ross Perot/ James Stockdale 13.9% (0 electoral votes)



Early on, Clinton had 10 point lead in the national polls, but somehow I managed to turn things around by election day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on January 29, 2010, 09:46:11 PM
2004:

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Howard Dean/ Bill Richardson 51% 360 electoral votes
George W. Bush/ Dick Cheney 46.9% 178 electoral votes
Ralph Nader/ Peter Camejo 0.7%  0 electoral votes
Michael Badnarik/ Richard Campagna 0.7% 0 electoral votes
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.7% 0 electoral votes


I have no idea how Dean ended up losing MN on election night.




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on February 01, 2010, 01:34:52 AM
Obama/Bayh vs Mccain/Pataki 08

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Barack Obama/Evan Bayh 53.4% 394 EV
John Mccain/George Pataki 45.2% 144 EV
Other 1.4% 0 EV




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 02, 2010, 03:47:10 AM
1980:

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Ben Fernandez/ George H.W. Bush 47.2% (442 electoral votes)

James Carter/ Walter Mondale 41% (96 electoral votes)
John Anderson/ Patrick Lucey 11.8% (0 electoral votes)

Another bizarre election result brought to you by President Forever. Yes, in a national 1980 Republican blowout, the Democrats managed to win Indiana, Vermont, and Connecticut, but Fernandez somehow managed to pick up West Virginia and Rhode Island from Carter.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 03, 2010, 02:56:38 AM
2000:

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Alan Keyes/Condoleezza Rice 49.1% (270 electoral votes)
Al Gore/ Dick Gephardt 47.2% (268 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader/ Winona LaDuke 2.7% (0 electoral votes)
Pat Buchanan/ Ezola Foster 0.9% (0 electoral votes)

Another ridiculous outcome from P4E. Apparently it doesn't take into account race or radicalism in determining candidate's effects on states. If it weren't for running out of money and getting hit with 3 scandals in the final week, it would have been a blowout victory for Keyes.

Closest states were Vermont, Maine, Ohio, and Delaware, all lost by Alan Keyes by less than 1%. ::)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on February 03, 2010, 06:11:03 PM
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Perrot 293
Bush 177
Cuomo 68


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 03, 2010, 09:57:26 PM
Here's my map for my 1796 scenario.

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I ran as Jefferson with George Clinton as my VP, but John Jay was the Federalist nominee and won somehow. My Scenario hates Jefferson for some reason


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Smid on February 03, 2010, 10:04:42 PM
Here's my map for my 1796 scenario.

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I ran as Jefferson with George Clinton as my VP, but John Jay was the Federalist nominee and won somehow. My Scenario hates Jefferson for some reason

Virginia and West Virginia are separate states?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 04, 2010, 07:44:44 AM
No, i had to use 2008's map to use the EVC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on February 04, 2010, 09:44:18 PM
2000:

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Alan Keyes/Condoleezza Rice 49.1% (270 electoral votes)
Al Gore/ Dick Gephardt 47.2% (268 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader/ Winona LaDuke 2.7% (0 electoral votes)
Pat Buchanan/ Ezola Foster 0.9% (0 electoral votes)

Another ridiculous outcome from P4E. Apparently it doesn't take into account race or radicalism in determining candidate's effects on states. If it weren't for running out of money and getting hit with 3 scandals in the final week, it would have been a blowout victory for Keyes.

Closest states were Vermont, Maine, Ohio, and Delaware, all lost by Alan Keyes by less than 1%. ::)

What!?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 05, 2010, 09:38:12 PM
2000:

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John McCain/John Engler 55.1% (497 electoral votes)
Al Gore/Joe Lieberman 42.1% (41 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke 2.8% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 07, 2010, 03:13:43 PM
Started 1976 with Byrd. My goal originally was to win a few states in the Rust Belt, then become Carter's VP. However, I ended up doing well, and won the nomination, despite starting out with less than 2%.  I chose Jimmy Carter as my Vice President nominee. Ford fought off a Reagan challenge, and chose Mark Schweiker as his VP. The race was a nailbiter, though in the last 2 weeks, I pulled away, winning most of the undecided voters.

The Results:
Byrd/Carter: 52.9%
Ford/Schweiker: 47.1%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 10, 2010, 01:39:13 AM
2000:

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Bill Bradley/Russ Feingold 52% (364 electoral votes)
John McCain/Tom Ridge 44.1% (174 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke 2.8% (0 electoral votes)
Pat Buchanan/Ezola Foster 1.1% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 11, 2010, 03:00:14 AM
1992:

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Pat Buchanan/Alexander Haig 47.6% (270 electoral votes)
Bill Clinton/Al Gore 52.4% (268 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 15, 2010, 07:51:38 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 511 EVs/58.5% PV
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 27 EVs/34.8% PV

The primary was taken right to Montana/South Dakota between Bayh and Obama, but Bayh pulled out a close lead in the delegates even after losing all the late contests (including Indiana), due to the endorsement of Senator Clinton before the Pennsylvania primary in April. The general was a cake walk.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 15, 2010, 11:44:30 PM
1988:

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Michael Dukakis/ Lloyd Bentsen 48.8% (319 electoral votes)
George H.W. Bush/ Dan Quayle 46.3% (219 electoral votes)
Ron Paul/ Russell Means 2.2% (0 electoral votes)
Lenora Fulani/ Fred Newman 2.7% (0 electoral votes)


Lost New Jersey by ~500 votes, 48.7%-48.7%. >:(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 20, 2010, 04:51:56 PM
1988:

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Gary Hart/ Mario Cuomo 52.4% (395 electoral votes)
George H.W. Bush/ Dan Quayle 43.3% (143 electoral votes)
Ron Paul/ Russell Means 2.3% (0 electoral votes)
Lenora Fulani/ Fred Newman 2% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lahbas on February 22, 2010, 01:02:35 AM
Best Result I have ever got as a Republican in 1936

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Franklin Roosevelt (D-NY)/Ellison Smith (D-SC)   12,747,397  48.4%  /  314 Electoral
Alf Landon (R-KS)/Frank Knox (R-IL)   12,560,359  47.7%  /  217 Electoral


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 23, 2010, 09:29:54 PM
1928:

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Alfred E. Smith/Joseph T. Robinson 54.1% (345 electoral votes)

Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis 45.9% (186 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on February 28, 2010, 02:29:17 AM
1948:

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Governor Earl Warren of California/Governor Thomas Dewey of New York 50.8% (321 electoral votes)
President Harry Truman of Missouri/Vice President Alben Barkley of Kentucky 43.7% (172 electoral votes)
Fmr. Vice President Henry Wallace of Iowa/Senator Glen Taylor of Idaho 3% (0 electoral votes)
Governor Strom Thurmond of South Carolina/Governor Fielding Wright of Mississippi 2.4% (38 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 03, 2010, 05:42:31 AM
1968:

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Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota/ Edmund Muskie of Maine 49.2% (368 electoral votes)
Richard Nixon of California/Spiro Agnew of Maryland 36.7% (143 electoral votes)
George Wallace of Alabama/Curtis LeMay of California 14.1% (27 electoral votes)


Closest States:
Indiana 0.7%
Maine 0.7%
Kentucky 0.9%
Maryland 1.4%
New Mexico 1.4%
Colorado 2.1%
New Hampshire 3.0%
Delaware 3.1%
Vermont 3.4%
Louisiana 3.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 05, 2010, 09:35:29 AM
1948:

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Thomas E. Dewey/ Earl Warren 54.7% (384 electoral votes)
Harry S. Truman/ Alben W. Barkley 40.3% (109 electoral votes)
J. Strom Thurmond/Fielding Lewis Wright 2.6% (38 electoral votes)
Henry Wallace/Glen Taylor 2.4% (0 electoral votes)


Closest States:

Montana 0.7%
Wyoming 1.1%
Nevada 1.6%
Missouri 3.2%
Delaware 3.3%
West Virginia 4.5%
Arizona 4.7%
Idaho 4.9%
Minnesota 4.9%
Colorado 5.2%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on March 06, 2010, 01:40:23 PM
Obama/Biden vs. Thompson/Snowe 2008
Played as Thompson. Spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania and Colorado, while Snowe stayed in the Northeast almost the entire time.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on March 06, 2010, 01:42:36 PM
Can I have the link to 1948?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on March 06, 2010, 02:44:18 PM

Agreed, i would like to play it as well.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 07, 2010, 04:29:05 PM
2010 UK Presidential election scenario

Jon Cruddas/Hazel Blears (Labour) - 182 electoral votes and 7,601,127 (29.2%) popular votes
Paddy Ashdown/Lembit Öpik (Liberal Democrats) - 112 electoral votes and 8,111,171 (31.2%) popular votes
David Cameron/Liam Fox (Conservative) - 68 electoral votes and 7,614,414 (29.3%) popular votes
Sian Berry/Jenny Jones (Green) - 1,497,136 (5.8%) popular votes
Nigel Farage/Mike Natrass (UKIP) - 1,200,611 (4.6%) popular votes

I played as Paddy Ashdown and came first in the popular vote, but second in the electoral college. Jon Cruddas was elected the UK's first president after only just winning the 182 majority of electoral votes needed to be elected. He came third in the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 07, 2010, 09:32:51 PM
1960:

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Adlai Stevenson/ John F. Kennedy 63.1% (514 electoral votes)

Richard Nixon/ Prescott Bush 36.1% (23 electoral votes)
Harry Byrd/ Strom Thurmond 0.8% (0 electoral votes)


Closest States:
Utah 0.8%
Colorado 1.2%
Nevada 1.2%
Arizona 1.4%
Kansas 1.6%
Wyoming 1.8%
South Dakota 2.2%
Montana 2.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on March 08, 2010, 05:51:04 PM
Ran a perfect 2004 scenario. I was Graham, and chose Easley as my running mate, vs. Bush/Cheney. Lost the popular vote 50.3%-49.7%, but here was the map...
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 13, 2010, 08:29:02 AM
1992:

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Bill Clinton/ Ann Richards 48.3% (455 electoral votes)
George H.W. Bush/ Dan Quayle 39.5% (83 electoral votes)
Ross Perot/ James Stockdale 12.2% (0 electoral votes)

Closest States:
Indiana 0.1%
Iowa 0.2%
South Carolina 0.6%
Louisiana 1.0%
New Hampshire 1.1%
Arizona 1.3%
Vermont 1.5%
Oregon 2.5%
Maine 2.7%
Georgia 3.2%
Oklahoma 3.6%
Montana 3.7%
Minnesota 3.7%
Utah 4.0%
Hawaii 4.0%
Michigan 4.7%
Mississippi 5.0%
North Dakota 5.0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 13, 2010, 07:41:51 PM
Could someone upload the 1992 scenario please? My version doesn't have it for some reason.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on March 13, 2010, 07:42:59 PM
Could someone upload the 1992 scenario please? My version doesn't have it for some reason.

Yeah, please.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 13, 2010, 07:46:01 PM
Could someone upload the 1992 scenario please? My version doesn't have it for some reason.

I'm not sure but think it's an official scenario included with the game.

Do you have the most up-to-date version (1.7.0)?

Otherwise, I could e-mail it to you if you want.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 13, 2010, 07:49:14 PM
Could someone upload the 1992 scenario please? My version doesn't have it for some reason.

I'm not sure but think it's an official scenario included with the game.

Do you have the most up-to-date version (1.7.0)?

Otherwise, I could e-mail it to you if you want.



Yeah, could you email it please? :)

My address is on my profile.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 13, 2010, 07:56:03 PM
Could someone upload the 1992 scenario please? My version doesn't have it for some reason.

I'm not sure but think it's an official scenario included with the game.

Do you have the most up-to-date version (1.7.0)?

Otherwise, I could e-mail it to you if you want.



Yeah, could you email it please? :)

My address is on my profile.

Thanks for that Libertas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 13, 2010, 07:56:46 PM
Could someone upload the 1992 scenario please? My version doesn't have it for some reason.

I'm not sure but think it's an official scenario included with the game.

Do you have the most up-to-date version (1.7.0)?

Otherwise, I could e-mail it to you if you want.



Yeah, could you email it please? :)

My address is on my profile.

Thanks for that Libertas.

No problem. :)

Did you get it and does it work properly?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on March 13, 2010, 08:03:42 PM
Where do you go to upload 1.7? I'm on their site and the Updates/Scenarios page only has 1.6.0.6


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 13, 2010, 08:31:29 PM
Where do you go to upload 1.7? I'm on their site and the Updates/Scenarios page only has 1.6.0.6

Yeah, I didn't even know there was a new version until tmthforu94 told me. Only 1.6.0.6 is on the website. You have to have a new download link e-mailed to you to get 1.7.0. I'm not sure what the changes are.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on March 13, 2010, 08:42:34 PM
Where do you go to upload 1.7? I'm on their site and the Updates/Scenarios page only has 1.6.0.6

Yeah, I didn't even know there was a new version until tmthforu94 told me. Only 1.6.0.6 is on the website. You have to have a new download link e-mailed to you to get 1.7.0. I'm not sure what the changes are.
Could you e-mail it to me please, does the new version have 1960?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 13, 2010, 08:49:52 PM
Where do you go to upload 1.7? I'm on their site and the Updates/Scenarios page only has 1.6.0.6

Yeah, I didn't even know there was a new version until tmthforu94 told me. Only 1.6.0.6 is on the website. You have to have a new download link e-mailed to you to get 1.7.0. I'm not sure what the changes are.
Could you e-mail it to me please, does the new version have 1960?

You just go here (http://www.theoryspark.com/interact/request_link_keycode.htm) and request a new download link to be e-mailed to you.

Could be wrong, but I don't think it includes any new scenarios though. I downloaded 1960 from somewhere on the TheorySpark forums IIRC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on March 13, 2010, 08:51:34 PM
The TheorySpark Admin has said that they are announcing a release date for Congress Forever soon, but it will only include the House Elections. Hopefully, it will come with a Campaigns Forever so that the Senate Elections can be made as well, and maybe even the Gubernatorial Elections.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 13, 2010, 09:02:24 PM
The TheorySpark Admin has said that they are announcing a release date for Congress Forever soon, but it will only include the House Elections. Hopefully, it will come with a Campaigns Forever so that the Senate Elections can be made as well, and maybe even the Gubernatorial Elections.

I wonder if they're gonna do official 2010 scenarios for PM Forever UK and Australia.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on March 14, 2010, 01:15:15 PM
I played the West Wing (TV show) Version 2006 election as Senator Vinick (R-CA) vs Congressman Santos (D-TX) vs Senator Gillette (I-ND)

the Night Before the election looked like this.
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Then On election night there were a few suprises.
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Vinick - PV 48.8, EV 330
Santos - PV 50.4, EV 208
Gillette - PV 0.8


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 16, 2010, 07:43:05 PM
1976:

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Gerald Ford/ Bob Dole 57.4% (519 electoral votes)

Jimmy Carter/ Walter Mondale 40.8% (19 electoral votes)
Eugene McCarthy 1.7% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 17, 2010, 03:11:02 PM
1992 (I played as Clinton.)

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Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 328 electoral votes and 43,208,982 (39.2%) popular votes
President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA) - 200 electoral votes and 39,833,964 (36.2%) popular votes
Old Man Ross Perot (I-TX)/Economist Pat Choate (I-DC) - 10 electoral votes and 27,053,918 (24.6%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on March 17, 2010, 06:01:26 PM
More news from the TheorySpark Admin:

In the 2012 version on P4E+P, there may be more polling options, such as giving polls a bias in favor of a certain party/candidate, choosing the margin of error, etc.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 20, 2010, 12:49:42 PM
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I played as Kelly. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on March 20, 2010, 02:00:29 PM
I played the West Wing (TV show) Version 2006 election as Senator Vinick (R-CA) vs Congressman Santos (D-TX) vs Senator Gillette (I-ND)

the Night Before the election looked like this.
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Then On election night there were a few suprises.
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Vinick - PV 48.8, EV 330
Santos - PV 50.4, EV 208
Gillette - PV 0.8

do you have a link I could use for this?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on March 20, 2010, 11:40:28 PM
Look up West wing on the theory spark website


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 21, 2010, 01:23:13 PM
I played the West Wing (TV show) Version 2006 election as Senator Vinick (R-CA) vs Congressman Santos (D-TX) vs Senator Gillette (I-ND)

the Night Before the election looked like this.
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Then On election night there were a few suprises.
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Vinick - PV 48.8, EV 330
Santos - PV 50.4, EV 208
Gillette - PV 0.8

do you have a link I could use for this?

http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/2009/05/08/santos-vs-vinick-2006/ (http://scenarios.theoryspark.com/2009/05/08/santos-vs-vinick-2006/) :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on March 21, 2010, 11:58:45 PM
Hillary Vs Romney 2008

I was Down by 4 points in the polls before election day and I ended up winning the Popular Vote by 600,000 votes but still lost the same way as it said in the polls.

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(R) Mitt Romney 58,392.023 49.8% 339EV
(D) Hillary Clinton 58,968,400 50.2% 199EV

Most of the states I lost were only by 4% - 10%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 22, 2010, 06:18:05 AM
1856:

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Republican John C. Frémont/ William L. Dayton 35.7% (172 electoral votes)

Democrat James Buchanan/ John C. Breckinridge 34.7% (29 electoral votes)
American Millard Fillmore/ Andrew Jackson Donelson 29.5% (95 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on March 22, 2010, 06:26:15 AM
1856:

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Republican John C. Frémont/ William L. Dayton 35.7% (172 electoral votes)

Democrat James Buchanan/ John C. Breckinridge 34.7% (29 electoral votes)
American Millard Fillmore/ Andrew Jackson Donelson 29.5% (95 electoral votes)


Hey can i have a copy of that scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on March 22, 2010, 11:38:41 AM
1976:
Wallace/Carter vs. Ford/Schweiker

Wallace - 54.3%
Ford - 45.7%


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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on March 25, 2010, 12:10:47 AM
1992:

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George H.W. Bush/ Colin Powell 49.1% (496 electoral votes)
Bill Clinton/ Al Gore 35.8% (42 electoral votes)
Ross Perot/ James Stockdale 15.1% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 26, 2010, 02:58:47 PM
1992
I played at Clinton. Congress re-elected President Bush eventhough Clinton win the PV.

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President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA) - 269 electoral votes and 40,105,703 (36.4%) popular votes
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 259 electoral votes and 42,483,893 (38.6%) popular votes
Old Man Ross Perot (I-TX)/Pat Chaote (I-DC) - 10 electoral votes and 27,507,268 (25.0%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 27, 2010, 05:50:17 PM
2008

I played as Al Gore.

Primary
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Green - Al Gore
Red - Hillary Clinton
Orange - Wesley Clark
Purple - Evan Bayh
Black - Gore by default, he was the only candidate at that point.


General
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Al Gore - 281 EVs/49.4% PV
Mitt Romney - 257 EVs/43.9% PV
Michael Badnarik - 6.7% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on April 02, 2010, 08:35:06 PM
2012, playing as Mitt Romney...
Republican Primaries:  Won every lead-off state, but performed poorly on Super Tuesday. Kansas put me over the top, however. I chose John Thune for my Vice President.
Democratic Primaries: Kucinich upset Obama in Iowa, but Obama managed to easily win every other primary. He chose Biden.
General Election: The race was a dead heat until about October 20th. My research found many Obama scandals, three of them being labeled "high". I played one a week in the final weeks. I also managed to save enough money to opt out of national funding, so I spent a lot more than Obama did.

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This actually wasn't looking towards a blowout. Mid-October, I was only ahead by one point. Ended up winning 56-43.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on April 04, 2010, 12:58:31 PM
2008

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Obama/Biden - 384 EVs/58.2% PV
McCain/Palin - 154 EVs/41.2% PV
Others - 0.6% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on April 04, 2010, 05:49:42 PM
1992

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Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 300 electoral votes and 42,951,330 (39.0%) popular votes
President George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 224 electoral votes and 39,868,011 (36.2%) popular votes
Mr. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA) - 14 electoral votes and 27,277,523 (24.8%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on April 04, 2010, 06:43:02 PM
2012 Obama (D) vs Romney (R) vs Root (L) (Me) vs Nader (I) vs Dobbs (I) vs Bloomberg (I)

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Obama 28.6% PV, 277 EV
Romney 27.6% PV, 214 EV
Bloomberg 17.4% PV, 27 EV
Root (Me) 15.8% PV, 21 EV
Dobbs 8.7% PV
Nader 1.8% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on April 05, 2010, 11:07:17 AM
2008

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Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 375 electoral votes and 66,628,355 (56.6%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 163 electoral votes and 44,397,401 (37.7%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 6,752,421 (5.7%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on April 05, 2010, 03:21:50 PM
2008

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Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 375 electoral votes and 66,628,355 (56.6%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 163 electoral votes and 44,397,401 (37.7%) popular votes
Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 6,752,421 (5.7%) popular votes
Warner/Clinton lose AR & VA while winning with a near 20 point lead?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryBrown2010 on April 14, 2010, 10:34:21 PM
Me(D) VS GOP (Both Moderate)

Going Into Election Day
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(D) 47% 203EV
(R) 43% 252EV
(L) 01%






Results
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(D) 64,034,596 54.3% 394EV
(R) 52,259,477 44.3% 144EV
(L) 1,654,754     1.4%

I was Actually expecting something close to this on election day.

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I never thought I would win Utah, Wyoming, Alabama, South Carolina and Idaho with me down by 12 - 20 points in the polls.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 03, 2010, 05:13:46 PM
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1992
Perot vs. Bush

Bush: 477 61.3 36,312,059
Perot: 61 38.7 22,918,369


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 14, 2010, 07:12:15 AM
1936

Roosevelt Vs. Landon

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It was very hard to do


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on May 15, 2010, 01:58:05 PM
2008:
Warner/Obama - 534 EV's, 62.9% of popular vote
Thompson/Huckabee - 4 EV's, 37.1% of popular vote

Closest States:
Idaho - Decided by less than 3000 votes

Best Warner States:
D.C. - 94.4%
Massachusetts - 83.6%
Rhode Island - 80.9%

Best Thompson States:
Idaho - 50.2%
Floriad - 49.4%
Utah - 49.1%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 15, 2010, 07:16:20 PM
2012:

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Barack Obama/ Joe Biden 58.9% (402 electoral votes)
Michele Bachmann/ Tom Coburn 39.6% (136 electoral votes)
Wayne Allyn Root/ Michael Jingozian 0.8% (0 electoral votes)
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.6% (0 electoral votes)



Closest States:
West Virginia 0.9%
Arkansas 2.8%
South Carolina 2.9%
North Dakota 3.8%
Alabama 3.8%
Tennessee 4.1%
Kansas 5.4%
South Dakota 6.0%
Indiana 6.2%
Texas 6.3%
Nebraska 6.8%

Best Obama States (>60%):
District of Columbia 82.0%
Rhode Island 70.8%
Vermont 70.6%
Hawaii 70.2%
California 69.8%
Massachusetts 69.2%
Illinois 68.9%
Maryland 68.2%
Washington 68.2%
New York 66.4%
Delaware 65.9%
Connecticut 65.5%
Oregon 64.8%
Michigan 64.7%
Maine 61.4%
Pennsylvania 60.9%
New Hampshire 60.6%
Wisconsin 60.5%
New Jersey 60.1%

Best Bachmann States
Utah 58.6%
Idaho 58.6%
Oklahoma 58.4%
Wyoming 56.9%
Mississippi 56.4%
Alaska 56.1%
Louisiana 55.7%
Kentucky 54.7%
Nebraska 53.1%
Texas 52.6%
Kansas 51.9%
South Carolina 51.3%
Tennessee 51.2%
North Dakota 51.0%
Alabama 51.0%
Arkansas 50.3%
West Virginia 49.0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 16, 2010, 08:16:35 PM
2012:

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Mitch Daniels/ Marco Rubio 57.2% (398 electoral votes)

Barack Obama/ Joe Biden 41.1% (140 electoral votes)
Wayne Allyn Root/ Michael Jingozian 0.8% (0 electoral votes)
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.9% (0 electoral votes)

Closest States:
Maryland 0.3%
Connecticut 0.4%
Washington 1.2%
Vermont 1.6%
Maine 1.8%
Delaware 1.7%
Oregon 2.2%
Hawaii 2.4%
Massachusetts 3.6%
Rhode Island 3.8%
New Jersey 4.1%
California 4.8%

Daniels States:
Utah 77.6%
Wyoming 77.4%
Idaho 75.5%
Oklahoma 74.8%
Indiana 70.5%
Nebraska 70.2%
Louisiana 69.8%
Kansas 69.6%
Tennessee 69.5%
Texas 69.4%
Mississippi 68.4%
South Carolina 68.2%
Alaska 68.0%
North Carolina 67.8%
Kentucky 67.6%
Alabama 66.3%
West Virginia 66.2%
Montana 65.7%
Georgia 65.3%
Missouri 64.7%
Arkansas 63.1%
South Dakota 61.9%
Arizona 61.4%
Ohio 60.9%
North Dakota 60.1%
Virginia 59.7%
Colorado 57.8%
Pennsylvania 57.3%
Florida 56.7%
Nevada 56.5%
New Hampshire 56.4%
Minnesota 55.5%
New Mexico 55.3%
Wisconsin 54.2%
Iowa 54.1%
Michigan 53.6%
New Jersey 51.5%
Oregon 50.6%
Vermont 50.1%
Maine 50.0%
Washington 49.9%
Connecticut 49.4%

Obama States:
New York 53.6%
Illinois 52.5%
Massachusetts 51.7%
Rhode Island 51.2%
Hawaii 51.0%
California 50.5%
Maryland 49.3%
Delaware 49.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on May 16, 2010, 10:05:57 PM
1936

Roosevelt Vs. Landon

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It was very hard to do
1) where can one get a 1936 scenario?
2) As amazing as Roosevelt losing that badly is, please tell you got the colors backwards.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 16, 2010, 10:31:06 PM
I'm gonna have to buy this tomorrow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on May 16, 2010, 10:41:12 PM
1936

Roosevelt Vs. Landon

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It was very hard to do
1) where can one get a 1936 scenario?
2) As amazing as Roosevelt losing that badly is, please tell you got the colors backwards.

Yeah a Republican candidate (especially one as "moderate" as Landon) winning Texas and Alabama with over 80% of the pv and Mississippi with over 90% in 1936 is pretty g****m f***ing insane.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 17, 2010, 07:19:46 AM
http://drop.io/srqvy80#  here is 1936


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on May 17, 2010, 03:38:56 PM
2008 Romney vs Obama

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 17, 2010, 10:25:22 PM

2012:

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Mark Warner/ Hillary Clinton 52.1% (311 electoral votes)
Mitt Romney/ George Pataki 46.2% (227 electoral votes)
Wayne Allyn Root/ Michael Jingozian 1.3% (0 electoral votes)
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.4% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 18, 2010, 08:42:19 AM
2004:  Colin Powell vs. Howard Dean

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I barely even had to campaign.  The hard part was beating Bush in the primaries.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GLPman on May 18, 2010, 11:58:09 AM
I played the 1992 scenario as Bush. Perot really screwed things up for both myself and the Democratic ticket. Nonetheless, I pulled off a huge victory.

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President George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 410 EVs
Senator Tom Harkin (D-IA) / Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 103 EVs
Ross Perot (I-TX) / James Stockdale (I-IL) - 25 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 18, 2010, 04:07:05 PM
1936

Roosevelt Vs. Landon

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It was very hard to do
1) where can one get a 1936 scenario?
2) As amazing as Roosevelt losing that badly is, please tell you got the colors backwards.

Yeah a Republican candidate (especially one as "moderate" as Landon) winning Texas and Alabama with over 80% of the pv and Mississippi with over 90% in 1936 is pretty g****m f***ing insane.

I didn't bother to change the colors.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on May 18, 2010, 09:53:25 PM
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Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Howard Baker (R-TN): 395 Electoral Votes, 53.8% PV

Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Walter Mondale (D-MN): 143 Electoral Votes, 46.2% PV

I only lost Georgia by a few hundred votes. :(

My first time playing.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on May 19, 2010, 12:15:05 PM
Second Game...

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Barack Obama (D-IL)/Mark Warner (D-VA): 459 Electoral Votes, 54.9% PV
John McCain (R-AZ)/Haley Barbour (R-GA): 79 Electoral Votes, 45.1% PV

Alabama kept switching back and forth through the election night, but at the end of the day I was unable to win it. :(

Lost North Dakota by about a thousand votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on May 19, 2010, 01:18:17 PM
1936

Roosevelt Vs. Landon

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It was very hard to do
1) where can one get a 1936 scenario?
2) As amazing as Roosevelt losing that badly is, please tell you got the colors backwards.

Yeah a Republican candidate (especially one as "moderate" as Landon) winning Texas and Alabama with over 80% of the pv and Mississippi with over 90% in 1936 is pretty g****m f***ing insane.

I didn't bother to change the colors.

Whoa that still means that Landon won g*****m Florida with 70% of the vote and f***ing Florida with 80%!
How?!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 19, 2010, 08:35:52 PM
Absolute Domination - 538 to 0.

Powell vs. Braun (2004)

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PV:

Powell:  65.5%
Braun:  27.5%
Nader:  2.9%
Peroutka:  2.1%
Badnarik:  2.0%

Only my fifth playthrough - I lost the primaries in 1980 with Ford in my first, destroyed Dean in 2004 with my second, came in second with Perot in my third, won as Cuomo in 1992 with my fourth, and now I utterly decimated Braun with Powell with my fifth...Not bad.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 19, 2010, 08:38:33 PM
The 2004 scenario is entirely broken and pretty much impossible to lose as the Republican, just fyi.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 19, 2010, 08:39:53 PM
The 2004 scenario is entirely broken and pretty much impossible to lose as the Republican, just fyi.

I was guessing so...There was no way I could win 80% of the vote in Texas without something being wrong.  Still, I thought it was cool.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 19, 2010, 08:48:04 PM
The 2004 scenario is entirely broken and pretty much impossible to lose as the Republican, just fyi.

I was guessing so...There was no way I could win 80% of the vote in Texas without something being wrong.  Still, I thought it was cool.

The fact that you won DC at all is even more shocking. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 19, 2010, 09:19:35 PM
What was DC results?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 19, 2010, 10:08:37 PM
DC was the closest election...I think it was 45-41...Nader got 10% there though, so he killed Braun's chances at winning any electoral votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 20, 2010, 06:21:21 PM
1948:

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Robert A. Taft/ Douglas MacArthur 57.1% (449 electoral votes)
Harry S. Truman/ Alben W. Barkley 37.3% (44 electoral votes)
J. Strom Thurmond/ Fielding Wright 2.3% (38 electoral votes)
Henry Wallace/ Glen Taylor 3.3% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bo on May 20, 2010, 06:32:06 PM
How do you play this game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 20, 2010, 06:37:10 PM

http://theoryspark.com/help/political_games/president_forever/welcome-to-president-forever-2008-primaries/tutorial/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on May 20, 2010, 06:38:15 PM
Can someone link me 1948?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 20, 2010, 06:39:48 PM
Libertas is tempting me with those 2004 scenarios...I'm gonna have to cough up another ten dollars to buy that one too.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 20, 2010, 06:50:08 PM
Libertas is tempting me with those 2004 scenarios...I'm gonna have to cough up another ten dollars to buy that one too.

You can just download them


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 20, 2010, 06:51:58 PM
Libertas is tempting me with those 2004 scenarios...I'm gonna have to cough up another ten dollars to buy that one too.

People are making you pay for scenarios? That's got to be a scam.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 20, 2010, 08:19:59 PM
Libertas is tempting me with those 2004 scenarios...I'm gonna have to cough up another ten dollars to buy that one too.

People are making you pay for scenarios? That's got to be a scam.

No, I have 2008.  You can play 2004 scenarios with 2008?  I was saying I was going to have to buy 2004.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 20, 2010, 10:41:38 PM
Libertas is tempting me with those 2004 scenarios...I'm gonna have to cough up another ten dollars to buy that one too.

People are making you pay for scenarios? That's got to be a scam.

No, I have 2008.  You can play 2004 scenarios with 2008?  I was saying I was going to have to buy 2004.

Oh I don't know, I had the 2004 game but I lost access to it long ago.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on May 20, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
Al Gore's failure II: McCain's Revenge 2000

Gore / Kerry 49% 266
McCain / Ridge 46% 272
other 5%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on May 22, 2010, 01:17:45 AM
1936
I played as Landon campaigning on a platform of agriculture and ending the New Deal, during the primaries i got one of Roosevelts challengers to drop out and endorse me so gave the GOP a small boost on the map.
Roosevelt (D) 49.3% 343
Landon (R) 45.3% 188
Others 5.4%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 23, 2010, 10:40:08 AM
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Performed this as Haley Barbour 2012

Won DC with over 70% of vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on May 23, 2010, 05:42:16 PM
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Performed this as Haley Barbour 2012

Won DC with over 70% of vote.
I am assuming the Democrat was turned off


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on May 23, 2010, 05:43:21 PM
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Performed this as Haley Barbour 2012

Won DC with over 70% of vote.
I am assuming the Democrat was turned off
if he only got 70% in DC and did worse in other states without a democrat...LOL


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 23, 2010, 06:19:27 PM
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Performed this as Haley Barbour 2012

Won DC with over 70% of vote.
I am assuming the Democrat was turned off
if he only got 70% in DC and did worse in other states without a democrat...LOL

With the democrats it was a 2012 Republican edition where Obama is very unpopular


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on May 24, 2010, 01:41:12 AM
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Franklin D. Roosevelt/John N. Garner: 251 EV, 40.7% PV
Huey Long/Hattie Caraway: 223 EV, 31.8% PV
Alfred E. Landon/William Knox: 57 EV, 25.1% PV

I managed to win in the House. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on May 24, 2010, 10:25:40 PM
1936:

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Not bad...Not particularly difficult either though.

I managed to come in first as Huey Long, but I don't have the results.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on May 24, 2010, 11:17:24 PM
1936

Landon 56%
Roosevelt 37%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on May 28, 2010, 03:05:41 PM
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Paul Tsongas/Bill Clinton-352 EV's: 45,586,004

George Bush/Pete Wilson- 172 EV's: 37,605,215

Ross Perot/Pat Choate-14 EV's: 26,905,645


I played as Paul Tsongas, i had to beat Al Gore in the primaries, but i did not take the lead until after The Iowa Caucus. Bush dumped Quayle and choose Pete Wilson.

On Election night, i won all the RL Clinton states, except for Georgia, Nevada, Maine, and Montana. Perot won Maine, Montana, Wyoming, and Nevada. He won Maine by 8,000 votes, while he won the others by 3,000 votes. Perot ended up losing North Dakota by 300 votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: yougo1000 on May 28, 2010, 03:13:15 PM
I see you like my 1936.

I got 70 in DC because i modified the scenario


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on May 31, 2010, 07:30:32 PM
2000:

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Alan Keyes/ Condoleezza Rice 52.2% (418 electoral votes)
Al Gore/ Joe Lieberman 44.5% (120 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader/ Winona LaDuke 3.3% (0 electoral votes)


Closest States:
Missouri 0.6%
Vermont 0.7%
Minnesota 0.7%
New Mexico 0.8%
Maine 0.9%
New York 1.6%
California 1.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on June 01, 2010, 10:59:47 AM
P4E is truly one of those games where "It ain't over 'till its over"... I went from losing the last debate 4 to 8, and Massachusetts/Vermont/New York being toss-ups to this.

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Paul Tsongas/Bob Kerrey: 313 Electoral Votes, 52.2% PV
George HW Bush/Dan Quayle: 225 Electoral Votes, 47.8% PV

How? I figured I was done for, so I just blew all my cash running 50 state ads bashing Bush on the economy for the last 2 weeks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 01, 2010, 04:29:37 PM
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Ran with Romney in 2012. Won Iowa, New Hampshire, and Maine which put me as frontrunner, and I eventually won. Chose Jeb Bush as my VP. On the Democratic side, Hillary barely beat out Obama, and chose Evan Bayh as her VP. General election was a deadlock until the very end. I way overperformed, only led by 5 points going into election day and won 56-44. Spent a lot of time in Massachusetts. Only lost D.C. by 13 points. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 01, 2010, 07:21:25 PM
2009 New York City mayoral election

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I was Thompson Jr.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 02, 2010, 01:10:11 PM
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Jerry Brown/Bob Kerrey: 342 EV, 42.2% PV
George H.W. Bush/Dan Quayle: 196 EV, 38.6% PV
Ross Perot/Pat Choate: 0 EV, 19.2% PV

I played as Perot. The closest state was Delaware, where Brown won it by 111 votes!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on June 02, 2010, 02:21:26 PM
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I edited Don Carcieri into the game...

Don Carcieri (Me)
Mitt Romney
John McCain

I won a plurality of delegates, but McCain threw his to Romney and I lost. :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Barnes on June 02, 2010, 09:40:46 PM
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Dick Gephardt/Douglas Wilder: 278 EV, 37.6% PV (41,448,954)
George Bush/Pete Wilson: 243 EV, 37.6% PV (41,404,421)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 17 EV, 24.7% PV (24,243,489)

I played as Wilder in the primaries against Gephardt, Tsongas, and Harkin, and lost big. However, I kept playing as Gephardt with Wilder as my VP and won it by a hair. :P ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on June 03, 2010, 04:33:57 PM
2008:

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Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton:  511
Rudy Giuliani/Charlie Crist:  27


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on June 03, 2010, 10:19:29 PM
Strange map...I played as Perot.

1992:

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H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale:  201 EV; 33.1%
George Bush/Colin Powell:  199 EV; 33.8%
Andrew Cuomo/Ann Richards:  138 EV; 33.2%

Bush ended up winning in the House, but still, it was neat to win as an Independent.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on June 03, 2010, 11:24:29 PM
Strange map...I played as Perot.

1992:

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H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale:  201 EV; 33.1%
George Bush/Colin Powell:  199 EV; 33.8%
Andrew Cuomo/Ann Richards:  138 EV; 33.2%

Bush ended up winning in the House, but still, it was neat to win as an Independent.



Goddamn, you did really well.

I must ask, however, do you mean Mario Cuomo, and not Andrew Cuomo? ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on June 04, 2010, 11:38:15 PM
Strange map...I played as Perot.

1992:

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H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale:  201 EV; 33.1%
George Bush/Colin Powell:  199 EV; 33.8%
Andrew Cuomo/Ann Richards:  138 EV; 33.2%

Bush ended up winning in the House, but still, it was neat to win as an Independent.



Goddamn, you did really well.

I must ask, however, do you mean Mario Cuomo, and not Andrew Cuomo? ;)

lol, yeah I meant Mario.

I was surprised Cuomo did so badly.  I couldn't believe Bush pulled off Illinois either...

I was really surprised by the results.  I was only projected to win the Northeast, the Mormon Triangle, and the Dakotas, but I ended up doing much better.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on June 05, 2010, 09:24:41 PM
Strange map...I played as Perot.

1992:

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H. Ross Perot/James Stockdale:  201 EV; 33.1%
George Bush/Colin Powell:  199 EV; 33.8%
Andrew Cuomo/Ann Richards:  138 EV; 33.2%

Bush ended up winning in the House, but still, it was neat to win as an Independent.



Goddamn, you did really well.

I must ask, however, do you mean Mario Cuomo, and not Andrew Cuomo? ;)

lol, yeah I meant Mario.

I was surprised Cuomo did so badly.  I couldn't believe Bush pulled off Illinois either...

I was really surprised by the results.  I was only projected to win the Northeast, the Mormon Triangle, and the Dakotas, but I ended up doing much better.

Even with fog of war off, polling can be a little off sometimes, relative to the actual results.

(For instance, once in 2000 I was safe in all the Bush 2000 states, but wound up losing Texas and Idaho, and winning Pennsylvania.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on June 07, 2010, 06:41:25 PM
1992 as Perot, mine is stanger than justW353's 1992 map.

Bush ran a very negative campaign againt me and it payed off in the end. The democrat's campaign imploded after Tsongas narrowly beat Clinton for the nomination. Towads the end I focused on TX, OH, & SD. I lost OH to Bush by less than 900 votes :(.

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George H.W. Bush / Dan Quale: 38.9%, 303 EV
Ross Perot / Pat Choate: 33.4%, 217 EV
Paul Tsongas / Sam Nunn: 27.7%, 18 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on June 08, 2010, 11:39:46 AM
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Mark Warner/Brian Schweitzer: 393 Electoral Votes, 53.2% PV
John McCain/Sarah Palin: 145 Electoral Votes, 46.8% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deldem on June 10, 2010, 02:57:58 AM
An OK Perot outing, though nothing to brag about compared to some of the previous Perot plays. Basically, I stole enough votes from Clinton to throw the election to Bush. I was pleased, however, to have won California (by 0.1%!), and to have been within 5 points in Idaho, Alaska, Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, Nebraska, Kansas, Texas, Wisconsin, Ohio, Missouri, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Vermont, and New Hampshire.

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George H.W. Bush: 331 EV, 37% PV
Ross Perot: 105 EV, 29.3% PV
Bill Clinton: 102 EV, 33.6% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on June 14, 2010, 08:47:04 AM
I played as Perot:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 14, 2010, 10:00:05 AM
2010 uk presidential. :P

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I played as Miliband/Straw against Cameron/Johnson and Clegg/Hunhe.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 15, 2010, 07:49:14 AM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 453 electoral votes and 79,274,195 (60.6%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 85 electoral votes and 50,826,437 (38.9%) popular votes
Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)/Wayne Allen Root (L-NV) - 656,428 (0.5%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: justW353 on June 17, 2010, 07:42:29 PM

I couldn't get that one to work... :(

Anyways, I created a 2012 election using Campaigns Forever (and it took forever).  Jindal won the Republican nomination, and ended up winning 0.4% of the popular vote vs. Obama's 98.6%...He got 29 votes in Vermont...I think I need to make some revisions...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on June 23, 2010, 12:55:29 AM
1960:
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Rockefeller/Bush-273, 48.8%

Humphrey/Johnson-255, 47.6%

Byrd/Thurmond-8, 3.6%

 I played as Rockefeller. The race was close until the last min, in which i won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 23, 2010, 12:44:46 PM
1976

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Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA) - 378 electoral votes and 57,859,014 (58.2%) popular votes
President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA) - 161 electoral votes and 38,555,113 (38.8%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 27, 2010, 12:47:37 PM
Just ran an epic game. I played as General Clark.

Clark/Warner 270 EV, 52.1% PV
Romney/Crist 268, 47.9% PV

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on June 27, 2010, 04:06:08 PM
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McKinley/Roosevelt-295 EV, 50.5%

Bryan/Dewey-152 EV, 39.5%


Howard/Nelson- O EV, 6.8%

Debs/Johnson- 0%, 3.7%

I played as Howard running with the populist party. Did good all night, even pulling 10 percent at one time. Ironically, Only one state changed, that was Idaho, mainly because of the candidate i played as.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on June 27, 2010, 06:20:00 PM
2008. I played as Gen. Clark I kicked McCain's ass as Clark.

primary results

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Clark
Obama
Clinton


General election

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Clark/Obama: PV 66.5% EV 538
McCain/Sanford PV 32.1%
others 1.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 29, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
2012
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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 452 electoral votes and 70,905,563 (59.6%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ) - 86 electoral votes and 43,121,856 (36.3%) popular votes
Others - 4,917,910 (4.1%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on June 29, 2010, 09:37:21 PM
2012:

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Barack H. Obama/ Joe Biden 60.1% (467 electoral votes)
Michele Bachmann/ Tom Coburn 39.3% (71 electoral votes)
Wayne Allyn Root/ Michael Jingozian 0.4% (0 electoral votes)
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.2% (0 electoral votes)

Closest States
Tennessee 0.4%
Kentucky 0.9%
West Virginia 3.3%
Kansas 3.5%
Mississippi 4.7%
Nebraska 5.1%
Louisiana 6.4%
Arkansas 7.2%
North Dakota 8.3%
Alabama 8.5%
Arizona 9.4%
South Carolina 10.5%
Texas 10.5%
Missouri 11.1%
Montana 11.7%
Georgia 12.0%
South Dakota 12.0%
Indiana 12.6%
Alaska 13.3%
North Carolina 14.3%
Colorado 15.2%


Obama States
District of Columbia 93.4%
Hawaii 79.3%
Vermont 75.3%
Rhode Island 72.9%
Illinois 70.3%
California 69.9%
New York 69.8%
Maryland 68.4%
Massachusetts 67.0%
New Jersey 65.1%
Delaware 64.4%
Maine 64.0%
Connecticut 63.2%
Washington 63.1%
Oregon 62.8%
New Mexico 62.7%
Wisconsin 61.0%
Minnesota 60.7%
Pennsylvania 60.6%
New Hampshire 60.5%
Michigan 60.2%
Virginia 60.1%
Ohio 58.7%
Nevada 58.6%
Iowa 58.5%
Florida 58.0%
Colorado 57.3%
North Carolina 56.9%
Indiana 55.9%
Georgia 55.7%
South Dakota 55.5%
Montana 55.4%
Missouri 55.2%
Texas 54.9%
South Carolina 54.9%
Arizona 54.5%
North Dakota 53.8%
West Virginia 51.4%
Tennessee 49.9%

Bachmann States
Oklahoma 62.5%
Wyoming 59.9%
Idaho 58.5%
Utah 57.6%
Alaska 55.8%
Alabama 54.0%
Arkansas 53.2%
Louisiana 52.9%
Nebraska 52.2%
Mississippi 52.1%
Kansas 51.3%
Kentucky 50.2%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on June 30, 2010, 06:08:01 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 443 electoral votes and 75,095,698 (57.8%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sonny Perdue (R-GA) - 95 electoral votes and 51,269,310 (39.5%) popular votes
Others - 3,472,229 (2.7%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 01, 2010, 02:13:10 AM
2012:

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Tim Pawlenty/ Bob McDonnell 54.5% (383 electoral votes)
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 43.6% (155 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader/Matt Gonzalez 1.1% (0 electoral votes)
Wayne Allyn Root/ Michael Jingozian 0.6% (0 electoral votes)
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.2% (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on July 01, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
1992:  Played as Clinton

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Clinton/Gore 49.7%
Bush Sr./Quayle 37.7%
Perot/Stockdale 12.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 01, 2010, 05:12:19 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 339 electoral votes and 52.0% of the popular vote
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Sonny Perdue (R-GA) - 199 electoral votes and 44.9% of the popular vote
Others (Bob Barr) - 3.1% of the popular vote

This was after Senator Bayh, coming from 4% in December polling, unexpectedly beat establishment candidates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, aswell as Senators Feingold, Edwards, Dodd and Biden and Governors Richardson and Vilsack, Vice President Gore, General Clark and Congressman Kucinich to the nomination.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 02, 2010, 02:04:21 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 440 electoral votes and 77,451,887 (59.2%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 98 electoral votes and 52,534,143 (40.2%) popular votes
Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)/Lance Brown (L-CA) - 771,031 (0.6%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 02, 2010, 05:02:44 PM
2012

Palin Fail!

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA) - 538 electoral votes and 81,126,317 (68.1%)
Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (R-AL) - 32,543,312 (27.3%)
Others (Peroutka) - 5,396,439 (4.5%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 05, 2010, 02:18:23 AM
2012:

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Ron Paul/ Andrew Napolitano 57.9% (439 electoral votes)
Barack Obama/ Joe Biden 42.1% (99 electoral votes)

Closest States:
Maryland 0.2%
New York 0.6%
Delaware 1.6%
Massachusetts 1.8%
Rhode Island 2.4%
California 3.0%
Vermont 3.4%
Connecticut 4.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 06, 2010, 02:43:27 PM
2008 enhanced

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Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 342 electoral votes and 68,761,674 (53.0%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) - 196 electoral votes and 54,625,603 (42.1%) popular votes
Others - 6,449,731 (5.0%) popular votes

A pretty close run game with Warner carrying Texas, Colorado, Kansas, Virginia, Ohio and Iowa by razor thin margins.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 07, 2010, 03:56:49 AM
1948:

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Thomas E. Dewey/ Robert A. Taft 54.9% (376 electoral votes)
Harry S Truman/ Alben W. Barkley 40.2% (117 electoral votes)
J. Strom Thurmond/ Fielding L. Wright 2.5% (38 electoral votes)
Henry A. Wallace/ Glen Taylor 2.4% (0 electoral votes)


Closest States:
Wyoming 0.9%
Idaho 0.9%
Missouri 0.9%
Kentucky 1.6%
Utah 2.2%
New Mexico 2.2%
Rhode Island 2.4%
Washington 2.7%
Oklahoma 3.0%
Nevada 3.6%
Colorado 4.3%
North Carolina 5.1%
West Virginia 5.4%
Florida 5.7%
Delaware 6.2%
Montana 6.3%
Arizona 8.2%
Minnesota 10.1%
Iowa 10.2%
Virginia 11.2%
Tennessee 11.5%
Kansas 12.2%
South Dakota 12.7%


Dewey States:
Vermont 73.0%
Pennsylvania 63.6%
Maine 62.9%
New Hampshire 61.5%
Illinois 59.4%
Ohio 59.2%
Indiana 59.1%
Michigan 59.0%
Nebraska 58.6%
New York 57.9%
Oregon 57.6%
California 57.5%
North Dakota 57.2%
Massachusetts 56.7%
New Jersey 56.5%
Wisconsin 56.5%
Connecticut 56.4%
Kansas 55.6%
South Dakota 55.4%
Maryland 54.9%
Iowa 54.1%
Minnesota 53.7%
Arizona 53.1%
Delaware 52.6%
West Virginia 52.2%
Colorado 51.2%
Wyoming 49.9%
Virginia 49.7%
Tennessee 49.1%
Florida 43.6%


Truman States:
Texas 51.7%
Oklahoma 51.5%
Montana 51.2%
Rhode Island 50.7%
New Mexico 50.6%
Utah 50.6%
Nevada 50.4%
Arkansas 50.3%
Missouri 50.0%
Georgia 49.0%
Idaho 49.0%
Kentucky 48.1%
North Carolina 46.2%

Thurmond States:
Mississippi 77.9%
Alabama 72.2%
South Carolina 64.2%
Louisiana 44.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 16, 2010, 02:19:12 PM
2008

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Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 419 electoral votes and 63,672,408 (54.1%) popular votes
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Senator George Allen (R-VA) - 119 electoral votes and 48,458,416 (41.1%) popular votes
Libertarian - 5,647,314 (4.8%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 16, 2010, 11:07:58 PM
2012:

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Michele Bachmann/ Jim DeMint 51.0% (310 electoral votes)

Barack Obama/ Joe Biden 44.8% (228 electoral votes)
Ralph Nader/ Cynthia McKinney 3.2% (0 electoral votes)
Wayne Root/ Michael Jingozian 0.8% (0 electoral votes)
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.2% (0 electoral votes)

Closest States:
Maine 0.6%
Connecticut 0.8%
Wisconsin 0.9%
Minnesota 1.5%
Pennsylvania 1.6%
Oregon 3.2%
Delaware 4.5%
Iowa 5.8%
Maryland 6.7%
Virginia 6.8%


Widest Margins:
Idaho 47.6%
Alaska 43.3%
Oklahoma 41.4%
Wyoming 39.1%
Arkansas 38.4%
Louisiana 30.6%
Hawaii 28.8%
Kansas 28.6%
Texas 28.5%
Utah 27.6%
Indiana 27.5%
Mississippi 26.7%
Arizona 26.3%
Alabama 25.3%
Nebraska 23.0%
Vermont 23.0%
Georgia 22.3%
Colorado 20.1%
Tennessee 19.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on July 17, 2010, 11:11:54 AM
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Hillary Clinton/Evan Bayh: 479 Electoral Votes, 56.1% PV

John McCain/Sarah Palin: 59 Electoral Votes, 43.9% PV

Closest McCain States:


Mississippi: 50.1%
Tennessee: 50.3%
Alabama: 50.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 17, 2010, 09:40:41 PM
2012:

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Barack Obama/ Joe Biden 60.0% (420 electoral votes)

John Thune/ Mitt Romney 39.3% (118 electoral votes)
Wayne Root/ Michael Jingozian 0.5% (0 electoral votes)
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.2% (0 electoral votes)

Closest States:
Texas 1.4%
Nebraska 3.3%
Louisiana 3.6%
Tennessee 3.9%
Georgia 4.0%
South Dakota 4.2%
West Virginia 4.3%
Mississippi 5.5%
South Carolina 5.6%
Wyoming 6.8%
Indiana 7.1%
Kansas 7.2%
North Dakota 8.2%
Kentucky 8.2%

Widest Margins:
Hawaii 57.6%
Vermont 49.3%
Rhode Island 44.6%
Massachusetts 41.7%
California 41.4%
Maryland 41.3%
New York 40.0%
Delaware 38.7%
Washington 34.5%
New Jersey 33.6%
Illinois 33.4%
Oregon 31.8%
Minnesota 27.4%
Maine 27.1%
New Mexico 25.6%
Wisconsin 24.7%
Florida 22.8%
Connecticut 22.4%
Michigan 22.2%
Ohio 22.1%
New Hampshire 20.1%
Pennsylvania 19.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on July 18, 2010, 11:35:19 AM
1976:

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Gerald Ford/Bob Dole: 536 Electoral Votes, 60.4% PV
George Wallace/Fred Harris: 3 Electoral Votes, 39.6% PV

I managed to keep Wallace under 60 in DC, atleast.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 18, 2010, 08:16:32 PM
Played as Wallace, won no states, but broke 10%...

1948:

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Harry S Truman/ Alben W. Barkley 43.1% (257 electoral votes)
Thomas E. Dewey/ Earl Warren 44.2% (236 electoral votes)
Strom Thurmond/ Fielding Wright 2.4% (38 electoral votes)
Henry Wallace/ Glen Taylor 10.2% (0 electoral votes)

Best Wallace States:
New York 20.9%
Ohio 19.4%
California 16.5%
Wisconsin 16.2%
Iowa 16.1%
Pennsylvania 15.8%
Minnesota 15.4%
Washington 14.1%
South Dakota 11.1%
New Jersey 10.9%
Michigan 10.8%
Oregon 9.9%
Maryland 9.9%
Idaho 8.6%
North Dakota 8.7%
Montana 7.5%
Wyoming 7.5%
Vermont 7.0%
Indiana 6.2%
Massachusetts 5.6%


Was not on the ballot in Illinois, Nebraska, and Oklahoma.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on July 20, 2010, 02:02:15 PM
2008: Played as Jim Douglas (R-VT)

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Douglas/Giuliani 55% PV, 337 EV

Clinton/Kerry 45% PV, 161 EV



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on July 20, 2010, 03:42:53 PM
2012:

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Barack Obama/Mike Huckabee: 530 Electoral Votes, 65.8% PV
Mitt Romney/Mark Sanford: 8 Electoral Votes, 34.2% PV

Closest State:

Utah:

Romney: 50.1%
Obama: 49.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 21, 2010, 06:51:36 PM
2008 enhanced

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 474 electoral votes and 78,435,912 (59.7%) popular votes
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 64 electoral votes and 51,193,874 (39.0%) popular votes
Others (Barr, Baldwin) - 1,698,513 (1.3%) popular votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 23, 2010, 12:52:41 AM
1996:

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Bob Dole/ Jack Kemp 55.9% 468 electoral votes
Lyndon LaRouche/ Chris Dodd 38.8% 70 electoral votes
Ross Perot/ Pat Choate 4.3%
Ralph Nader 0.4%
Harry Browne 0.4%
Howard Phillips 0.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on July 23, 2010, 01:39:18 AM
Where do I get the 2008 enhanced scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on July 23, 2010, 01:55:29 AM
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Roosevelt/Garner    49.1% | 354  electoral votes
Hoover/Curtis        32.3% |  90 electoral votes
Thomas/Maurer      16.7% |  83 electoral votes
Upshaw/Regan    1.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 23, 2010, 10:17:14 AM

Someone posted it ages ago.

Do you want me to PM you a .zip file of it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on July 24, 2010, 01:25:28 AM

Someone posted it ages ago.

Do you want me to PM you a .zip file of it?

Yes, please.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 24, 2010, 08:57:33 AM
Playing against my friend as myself:

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Gael M. L'Hermine (D-ME)/Samantha "Samie" Luc (D-CA) 82,502,724 (63.4%) and 514 EVs
Michael B. Jacobsen (R-CA)/Sarah Palin (R-AK) 47,615,608 (36.6%) and 24 EVs

I won 56% in Alaska, and I won Alabama and Mississippi. But Oklahoma didn't go my way!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 24, 2010, 05:24:59 PM
1980 w/ Ben Fernandez playing as Anderson. My entire strategy was practically to do as well as possible in VT...

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Carter/Mondale 44,018,985 (50.1%) winning 490EV
Fernandez/Crane 35,859,831 (40.8%) winning 45EV
Anderson/Lucey 7,993,299 (9.1%) winning 3EV

Vermont: Ind 38.4%, DEM 34.3%, REP 27.3%
Other good Anderson showings in: CT 27.2%, ME 22.%, NH 21.9%, MA 19.4%, CO 18.6%, RI 17.6%, MT 16.8%, OR 14.6%, LA 13.7%, WI 12%, IN 11.3%, AZ 11.2%, WA 11.2%

3.4% in AR as the worst result


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on July 24, 2010, 11:44:55 PM
1992:

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Bill Clinton/Al Gore: 514 Electoral Votes, 50.1% PV
George Bush/Dan Quayle: 24 Electoral Votes, 32% PV
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 0 Electoral Votes, 17.9% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 25, 2010, 12:44:47 PM
1992 as Perot

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Clinton/Gore (D) 39,713,017 (38.2%) winning 387EVs
Bush/Quayle (R) 32,643,272 (31.4%) winning 103EVs
Perot/Stockdale (I) 31,688,263 (30.5%) winning 48EVs

I was at 19% and very narrowly leading ME and MT, tied in WY and narrowly trailing in AK on the last polls.

Maine was my best with 44.7%, against 43.8% in MT, 41.3% in OR and 40.5% in AK; Mississippi was my worst (21.1%) and Bush's best (41.8%). But Perot was still very strong throughout the country, even in states I did not campaign in.

Texas went 34.9% Bush, 34.2% Perot and 30.9% Clinton.
Clinton won Oklahoma with 33.8% vs. 33.5% for Perot and 32.7% for Bush
North Dakota went Clinton with 85,478 votes for him against 85,304 for me; 32.9% each.
South Dakota went Bush with 96,828 for him against 97,774 for Clinton; 33.4% each. I got 33.2%
California went Clinton 37.4-34.5 against Perot, Bush in third with 28%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on July 25, 2010, 01:41:28 PM
Playing against my friend as myself:

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Gael M. L'Hermine (D-ME)/Samantha "Samie" Luc (D-CA) 82,502,724 (63.4%) and 514 EVs
Michael B. Jacobsen (R-CA)/Sarah Palin (R-AK) 47,615,608 (36.6%) and 24 EVs

I won 56% in Alaska, and I won Alabama and Mississippi. But Oklahoma didn't go my way!

Nice choice of running mate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on July 25, 2010, 04:35:00 PM
Played the 2000 scenario as McCain starting in the primaries. Ran against Gore in the general, and got a very strange result:
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Gore/Shaheen   50,913,992 (47.2%)   294 EVs
McCain/Pataki  52,380,150 (48.5%)   244 EVs
Nader/LaDuke   4,614,778 (4.3%)   0 EVs

McCain won the popular vote, yet lost the electoral college. Just like Gore in real life, McCain was behind for all the general election, and then pulled back into contention in the last two weeks. I probably could have won it had I been more targeted in which states I advertised in, instead of a broad strategy with 20-some states.

Nader performed very well, which is why McCain managed to win Vermont with 45.5% of the vote (Nader won 11.1% of the vote).

Closest States
Illinois (+0.3%)
Florida (+0.3%)
Kentucky (+0.8%)
Virginia (+1.1%)
Washington (+1.3%)
Vermont (+2.1%)
Mississippi (+2.8%)
Pennsylvania (+2.9%)
Arizona (+3.0%)
New Mexico (+3.2%)
Arkansas (+3.3%)




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on July 25, 2010, 09:29:30 PM
2004: played as Badnarik (L-TX)

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Bush/Perry 49% PV, 465 EV
Badnarik/Brown 16.7% PV, 58 EV
Kerry/ Kucinich 31.8% PV, 15 EV
Nader/??? 2.4% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on July 26, 2010, 12:10:07 PM
UK scenario as Sian Berry...

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David Miliband (Labour) 9,498,089 (35%) winning 199EVs
Boris Johnson (Conservative) 7,496,332 (27.6%) winning 113EVs
Lembit Öpik (LibDem) 4,836,035 (17.8%) winning 10EVs
Sian Berry (Green) 2,617,325 (9.6%) winning 40EVs
Nick Griffin (BNP) 1,159,881 (4.3%)
Nigel Farage (UKIP) 1,020,410 (3.8%)
George Galloway (Respect) 533,493 (2%)

Won London with 26.8% against 25.8% for Miliband and 25.2% for Boris.

+10% showings:
Central Scotland: 15%
Wilts and Avon: 14.9%
Highlands: 13%
Herts and Beds: 11.7%
Bucks and Oxford: 11%

lowest was 3.6% in Kent and South Wales

Again, massively underestimated by polls (3% nationally, 13% in London)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on July 28, 2010, 02:03:53 AM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

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JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on July 28, 2010, 04:32:09 PM
1988:

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Michael Dukakis/ Lloyd Bentsen 49.8% (374 electoral votes)

George H.W. Bush/ Dan Quayle 45.6% (164 electoral votes)
Ron Paul/ Russell Means 2.8%
Lenora Fulani/ Fred Newman 1.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on July 29, 2010, 08:22:01 PM
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George H.W. Bush/Pete Wilson: 375 Electoral Votes, 39.1% PV
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 132 Electoral Votes, 30% PV
Bill Clinton/Bob Kerrey: 31 Electoral Votes, 30.1% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on July 31, 2010, 08:44:04 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

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JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on July 31, 2010, 08:59:35 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on July 31, 2010, 09:01:15 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

Can I be in it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on July 31, 2010, 09:06:23 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

Can I be in it?

We'll see... I don't want to start a slippery slope of everybody demanding their own character, as I only have so many slots.

You could be a crusader though. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 01, 2010, 06:44:47 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 01, 2010, 08:55:56 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

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JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 01, 2010, 11:41:11 PM
1976:

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Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale: 327 Electoral Votes, 51.2% PV
Gerald Ford/Bob Dole: 212 Electoral Votes, 47.6% PV
Eugene McCarthy/Varied In Each State: 0 Electoral Votes, 1.2% PV

Yeah. Bizzare. And yes, that is 60% in CA.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on August 01, 2010, 11:49:45 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)
Well actually in the CanEditor, you can creat new character slots


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 02, 2010, 12:13:02 AM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)
Well actually in the CanEditor, you can creat new character slots

Ah. See, just now I realize this.

Anywho, I could develop a 3 party scenario for October, but it'd be a separate scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mechaman on August 02, 2010, 10:47:50 AM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
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JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

Can I be in it?

We'll see... I don't want to start a slippery slope of everybody demanding their own character, as I only have so many slots.

You could be a crusader though. :P

I want to be a crusader!
I could do well in a Populares primary, but I'm too lazy to put forth the effort.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on August 02, 2010, 07:59:47 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

Can I be in it?

We'll see... I don't want to start a slippery slope of everybody demanding their own character, as I only have so many slots.

You could be a crusader though. :P

You must make an opebo candidate!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 02, 2010, 08:36:38 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
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JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

Can I be in it?

We'll see... I don't want to start a slippery slope of everybody demanding their own character, as I only have so many slots.

You could be a crusader though. :P

I want to be a crusader!
I could do well in a Populares primary, but I'm too lazy to put forth the effort.

I have you as my Crusader, and you have a substantial base power. :)

I'll make you an optional candidate, though.

P.S. (Do you have this game?)

Quote
You must make an opebo candidate!

Maybe. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on August 02, 2010, 08:38:54 PM
I want to be in it!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 02, 2010, 08:45:12 PM

Independent or Popularis? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on August 02, 2010, 09:31:29 PM

Indie


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 03, 2010, 12:27:46 AM
2004:

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George W. Bush/Dick Cheney: 538 Electoral Votes, 69.6% Popular vote
Wesley Clark/Mike Easley: 0 Electoral Votes, 30.4% Popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 03, 2010, 02:19:14 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
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JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)

:D Please do


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 03, 2010, 03:57:58 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)

:D Please do

Could you do POP, JCP, DA and RPP? :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 03, 2010, 06:11:18 PM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)

:D Please do

Could you do POP, JCP, DA and RPP? :D

Well, that seems like an unlikely scenario for October. :P

I had POP v RPP v DA/JCP in mind for the alternate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 03, 2010, 09:58:47 PM
Popularis Primaries

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Dallasfan65 - 1194 Delegates
AndrewCT - 846 Delegates

General Election:

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Dallasfan65/Andrew CT - 344 Electoral Votes, 52.4% PV
Purple State/Joe Biden - 194 Electoral Votes, 47.6% PV

(Er uhm yeah... I need to edit the whole Joe Biden thing.)


EDIT: I found out why CT was such a beast. I gave him 50,000,000 (comparatively I had about 7 million) yet I still beat him. Wow... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 04, 2010, 12:07:48 AM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)

:D Please do

Could you do POP, JCP, DA and RPP? :D

Well, that seems like an unlikely scenario for October. :P

I had POP v RPP v DA/JCP in mind for the alternate.

That would work. Would you just be putting in top competitors or also minor candidates?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 04, 2010, 12:14:57 AM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)

:D Please do

Could you do POP, JCP, DA and RPP? :D

Well, that seems like an unlikely scenario for October. :P

I had POP v RPP v DA/JCP in mind for the alternate.

That would work. Would you just be putting in top competitors or also minor candidates?

I could do a bunch of minor candidates that are initially turned-off, but are optional to turn on. (Several POP's in the primary, for instance.)

Want me to email you a draft I've got going on right now? It still needs some fleshing out/fine tuning but it's playable.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 04, 2010, 12:36:45 AM
Atlasia Forever: Oct. 2010 : Pop Primaries

Here is a taste of the scenario Dallas is working on I played as myself.

Dallas had an early lead in most states but started losing ground after my wins in IA and NH. Then AndrewCT kept his campaign alive after performing well in the south and a big win in NY. I did not secure enough delegates until the last Primary avoiding a convention fight.

(
)

JBrase - 1081 delegates, 40.6%
Dallasfan65 - 514 delegates, 31.5%
AndrewCT 445 Delegates, 27.9%


cool :D

Thanks.

This scenario is still in it's earlier stages, but I'll let everybody know when an official version is out. Lot of stuff still needs tinkering with.

are you planning on adding the other major parties?

Well, P4E is conducive to a 2-major party system, but if you want things to be interesting, I could make a scenario with three parties going at it.

(What would really be fun is if I did February 2010.)

:D Please do

Could you do POP, JCP, DA and RPP? :D

Well, that seems like an unlikely scenario for October. :P

I had POP v RPP v DA/JCP in mind for the alternate.

That would work. Would you just be putting in top competitors or also minor candidates?

I could do a bunch of minor candidates that are initially turned-off, but are optional to turn on. (Several POP's in the primary, for instance.)

Want me to email you a draft I've got going on right now? It still needs some fleshing out/fine tuning but it's playable.

Please do :D

Also, are the state's set up to be conservative/liberal based on RL or based on Atlasia?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 04, 2010, 10:27:42 PM
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Green-Dallasfan65
Blue-JBrase
AndrewCT (my future VP though he rejected it the first time I asked :P) and Libertas dropped out early on. Arizona and Deleware were early states, but Jbase never picked up even with scandals on me.

In the general I started with a modest lead but that started to fall then pick back up. There were a lot of swing states carrying a lot of electors especially Pennsylvania, Ohio, New Jersey, Michigan, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, the south west, the northeast and Oregon and Arkansas.
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POP 52.6%
JCP 47.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 04, 2010, 11:02:32 PM
Did you enjoy the scenario? :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sewer on August 04, 2010, 11:25:42 PM
Can I try?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deldem on August 04, 2010, 11:49:15 PM
I'd like to try this scenario as well, if you're willing to forward it my way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 05, 2010, 12:10:56 AM
I'd like to try this scenario as well, if you're willing to forward it my way.

I'm willing to email it to you guys tomorrow.. It's not a "finalized" version yet, and still has a couple of taps of the hammer/twists of the screw driver that I want to do.

PM me your email addresses?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 05, 2010, 01:16:36 AM

Yes. Though I should have done hard version and not medium to have a more fun primary :) Opposition research went extremely well though which is why I had such early success.

Can't wait for the RPP to be added :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on August 05, 2010, 07:35:35 AM
2008 enhanced

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Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 538 electoral votes and 94,852,771 (72.7%) popular votes
Representative Ron Paul (R-TX)/Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) - 28,531,395 (21.9%) popular votes
Others (Root, Baldwin) - 7,005,753 (5.4%) popular votes

Paul collapsed when Thompson withdrew, then Huckabee endorsed Warner and Paul was dead in the water.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on August 05, 2010, 03:02:53 PM
Atlasia forever +Primaries: October 2010

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Jbrase - blue
AndrewCT - green
Libertas - gray
Dallasfan65 - red


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Jbrase (POP)/Swedish Cheese (DA): 49.9% PV; 491 EV

Purplestate (DA)/Oakvale (JCP): 39.3% PV;47 EV

AHduke99 (AFL-CIO/RPP)/Inks.LWC (AFL-CIO/RPP): 9.1% PV

Xahar (CP)/Al (CP): 1.7% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ej2mm15 on August 05, 2010, 03:14:38 PM
Where do you play the 2012 version from?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on August 05, 2010, 10:20:18 PM
1988:

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Ted Kennedy/Gary Hart: 63,215,015 (52.8%) 428 EVs
George Bush/Bob Dole: 49,974,498 (41.8%) 110 EVs
Ron Paul/???: 4,211,004 (3.5%) 0 EVs
Lenora Fulani/???: 2,263,327 (1.9%) 0 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on August 06, 2010, 10:13:47 AM
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Jbrase/Tmthforu94 - 52.2%, 348 EV's
PurpleState/Bacon King - 47.8%, 190 EV's

Most intersting state was definitely Oregon, where Jbrase won by 29 points.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on August 06, 2010, 11:22:46 AM
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Jbrase/Tmthforu94 - 52.2%, 348 EV's
PurpleState/Bacon King - 47.8%, 190 EV's

Most intersting state was definitely Oregon, where Jbrase won by 29 points.
We have our own special thread for this now :)
and what happened in Iowa ??? :'(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 08, 2010, 09:51:59 AM
1980:

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Jimmy Carter/Edward Kennedy: 510 Electoral Votes, 60.3% PV
Ronald Reagan/John Dalton: 28 Electoral Votes, 39.7% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 09, 2010, 04:52:20 PM
1.7%? Really? Michael Peroutka gets more than that!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on August 13, 2010, 02:45:15 PM
tried it again.

POP Primary was a lot closer this time, CT had a strong showing in the early states but his momentum began to die down later on. Dallasfan lost most the early states but as CT's campaign died down, his found new life and began winning more and more states, nearly keeping me below 50% of the delegates. I took the nomination with a decisive victory in Kentucky.

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JBrase
AndrewCT
Dallasfan65

The RPP primary was the closest with Inks losing to Duke by only 1 delegate.

The General election was a toss up at first with both Purple State & I polling in the high 30's, and Xahar & Duke both in the single digits. Towards the end a couple high profile scandals and strong performances at the debates ended up sinking PS's campaign.

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JBrase/Bullmoose88: 47.7% PV; 418 EV

Puple State/Bacon King: 34.7% PV; 120 EV
AHduke99/Inks.LWC: 15.5%
Xahar/Al: 2.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Хahar 🤔 on August 13, 2010, 03:00:55 PM
It'd be cool if I were a bit stronger...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 13, 2010, 04:11:26 PM
It'd be cool if I were a bit stronger...

Well, to be fair, the only thing that changed from the file (Unless Brase has made his own revisions) would be a name change. I just did that as filler.

The next edition will have you performing more robustly. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on August 14, 2010, 12:46:34 AM
Dennis Kucinich/Bill Richardson (D) - 385
Ron Paul/Jim DeMint (R) - 153

Wat

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on August 14, 2010, 05:52:51 PM
Well, I lose as Wallace in 1968, but I'm pretty impressed with my showing. I won Florida by a little over 4000 votes and won Oklahoma by 2000. My best states outside of the South were Michigan, Ohio, and Alaska.

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Humphrey: 283 EVs, 39.4% PV
Nixon: 135 EVs, 35.1% PV
Wallace: 120 EVs, 25.5% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on August 15, 2010, 03:37:35 PM
Whew! I just ran a crazy simulation. 1968, running as Wallace with no Democrats. Romney pulls off a few surprises and wins the Republican nomination. Despite leading in popular vote the entire general election, I struggled to attain the number 270. On election night, it all came down to Ohio, where I ended up winning by 27,000 votes.

Romney/Agnew: 45%, 249 EVs
Wallace/LeMay: 55% 289 EVs

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It'd be interesting to live on the Missouri-Kansas border. (where I used to live) ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on August 15, 2010, 11:21:12 PM
Whew! I just ran a crazy simulation. 1968, running as Wallace with no Democrats. Romney pulls off a few surprises and wins the Republican nomination. Despite leading in popular vote the entire general election, I struggled to attain the number 270. On election night, it all came down to Ohio, where I ended up winning by 27,000 votes.

Romney/Agnew: 45%, 249 EVs
Wallace/LeMay: 55% 289 EVs

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It'd be interesting to live on the Missouri-Kansas border. (where I used to live) ;)

I'd fear for my life!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Free Palestine on August 17, 2010, 02:28:07 AM
My first time winning, although I lost as Paul in the Republican Primary.

Mitt Romney/Ron Paul (R), 297, 45.9%
Hillary Clinton/Kathleen Sebelius (D), 241, 45.1%
Ralph Nader/Matt Gonzales (I), 0, 3.6%
Wayne Allyn Root/Steve Kubby (L), 0, 3.1%
Allen Keyes/Chuck Baldwin (C), 1.2%
Cynthia McKinney/Patricia LaMarche (G), 1.1%

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Considering how similar the two major-party candidates were, it turned out to be a good year for third-party candidates.  Nader broke ten percent in California, and got twelve percent of the vote in, interestingly enough, Alabama.  Root got ten percent in Kansas.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 17, 2010, 04:11:58 PM
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Paul Tsongas/Bob Kerrey: 399 Electoral Votes, 46.8% PV
George Bush/Dan Quayle: 139 Electoral Votes, 38.1% PV
Ross Perot/James Stockdale: 0 Electoral Votes, 15.1% PV

Alabama was my best state. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on August 18, 2010, 01:05:21 PM
1996:

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Bill Clinton/Richard Lamm: 515 Electoral Votes, 55.9% PV
Richard Lugar/Pat Buchanan: 23 Electoral Votes, 35.6% PV
Ross Perot/Zschau: 0 Electoral Votes, 6.8% PV
Ralph Nader: 0 Electoral Votes, 0.6% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on August 19, 2010, 02:24:30 AM
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Democratic Primary
Red = Me
Blue = Clinton
Green = Obama

Very closely run thing - I got Obama to endorse me 2 weeks before the convention, and I won by 25 delegates.


General...close in the early days, but I stayed positive and....

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Polnut/Bayh - 435EV 56.4%
Romney/Jindal - 103EV  41.6%
Paul - 1.4%

Best state (not DC) - Vermont 73.2%
Worst state - Utah 34.5%
Closest state - Texas by 359 votes... damn it!!!

The light coloured states were the white undecideds before the election...

----------------------


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ej2mm15 on August 19, 2010, 10:36:35 AM
2012

It was a very long and confusing republican primary in a six way tie with Romney, Huckabee, Palin, Thune, Daniels, and Paul.

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Pink-Thune, Red-Paul, Dark Red-Palin, Sky Blue-Huckabee, Blue-Daniels, Dark Blue-Romney

Thune, Romney and Huckabee were the only ones left after the primaries. Thune dropped out in early July, then Romney dropped out and endorsed Huckabee right before the Conventions. Obama led up to election night and then won in a landslide.


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Obama/Vislack 59.9%
Huckabee 37.2%
Ruwart/Barr 2.9%

I was Ruwart, and did not campaign at all. This was a test scenerio.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Citizen (The) Doctor on August 22, 2010, 10:48:48 PM
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JCP: Purple State/Bacon King - 285 EVs, 46.4% PV
POP: AndrewCT/NiK - 253 EVs, 39.9% PV
RPP: AHDuke99/New Leader (??) - 0 EVs, 9.4% PV
CHR: Xahar/Al - 0 EVs, 4.3% PV

Andrew is one tough SOB to nail in this.  Scandal after scandal after scandal.  I think we both ran out of campaign funds at the end due to the constant attack ads on each other lol.

Interesting to note is that I was ahead in the South since the beginning of the election.  Andrew managed to throw three high damage Scandals at me and won most of the states (discounting Florida, Louisiana, and Alabama).  Texas was the biggest battleground state that I only lost during the last week.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ej2mm15 on August 24, 2010, 11:27:50 AM
2008-Wonk Edition

I played as Bill Richardson

Primaries:

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Me-Green, Clinton-Red, Obama-Blue

General Election:


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Bill Richardson/Mark Warner 295 (50.7%)
Rudy Giuliani/Mitt Romney 243 (48.1%)
Chuck Baldwin 0 (0.9%)
Wayner Root 0 (0.3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on August 25, 2010, 08:40:35 PM
A close three-way between Warner-Clinton-Obama. Warner/Obama became the ticket vs.
Huckabee/Johnson. Here's the map:

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Warner won with 53.4% of the vote. He was up by 2 points going into election day. Was down by 16 in Texas ,but only lost by 2.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Reaganfan on August 26, 2010, 07:58:02 PM
Obama vs. Santorum.

Needless to say, I lost.

Obama: 409
Santorum: 130

Popular Vote:

Obama: 64,982,669
Santorum: 59,610,175

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on August 27, 2010, 09:47:25 PM
Obama vs. Santorum.

Needless to say, I lost.

Obama: 409
Santorum: 130

Popular Vote:

Obama: 64,982,669
Santorum: 59,610,175

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interesting popular vote count considering the EV count


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on September 07, 2010, 06:13:23 PM
2012:

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Sarah Palin/ Jim DeMint 53.8% (358 electoral votes)

Barack Obama/ Joe Biden 44.9% (180 electoral votes)
Wayne Root/ Michael Jingozian 0.5%
Ralph Nader/ Cynthia McKinney 0.5%
Michael Peroutka/ Chuck Baldwin 0.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tpfkaw on September 16, 2010, 10:57:36 AM
I won 538 electoral votes as Colin Powell in the 2004 simulation. Unfortunately I didn't save it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 20, 2010, 08:21:33 PM
I won 538 electoral votes as Colin Powell in the 2004 simulation. Unfortunately I didn't save it.
I ironically did that too today. It really isn't that hard. Most of the time it comes down to just campaigning in Vermont, Massachusetts, and D.C.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl on September 20, 2010, 08:27:24 PM
I won 538 electoral votes as Colin Powell in the 2004 simulation. Unfortunately I didn't save it.
I ironically did that too today. It really isn't that hard. Most of the time it comes down to just campaigning in Vermont, Massachusetts, and D.C.

Well yeah, the 2004 scenario is seriously broken. I just spacebarred through it as Nader and Bush won 50 states+DC against Clark. 

Try accomplishing the same result in reverse playing as the Democrat for a real challenge. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on September 22, 2010, 09:53:18 PM
Atlasia Forever:

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Dallasfan65/Jbrase: 538 EV's, 70% PV
Marokai Blue/Badger: 0 EV's, 30% PV

Sorry man.

Best state:

Tennessee:

Dallafan65 - 91.9%
Marokai - 8.1%


Worst state:

California:

Dallasfan65 - 59%
Marokai - 41%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vepres on September 22, 2010, 11:30:41 PM
Atlasia Forever:

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Dallasfan65/Jbrase: 538 EV's, 70% PV
Marokai Blue/Badger: 0 EV's, 30% PV

Sorry man.

Best state:

Tennessee:

Dallafan65 - 91.9%
Marokai - 8.1%


Worst state:

California:

Dallasfan65 - 59%
Marokai - 41%

Broken much? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on September 23, 2010, 03:00:12 PM
Atlasia Forever:

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Dallasfan65/Jbrase: 538 EV's, 70% PV
Marokai Blue/Badger: 0 EV's, 30% PV

Sorry man.

Best state:

Tennessee:

Dallafan65 - 91.9%
Marokai - 8.1%


Worst state:

California:

Dallasfan65 - 59%
Marokai - 41%

Broken much? :P

Naw, just two handy cross-primary endorsements from Bacon King and Meeker, followed by three triumphant debate performances, and two 50 state ads for the last week(one with a power of 8 and 7) coupled with three scandals three day before the election, for good measure. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Insula Dei on September 25, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
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President Gerald Ford of Michigan / Senator Bob Dole of Kansas 48.232.038, 48.3% PV, 275 EV
Senator Lloyd Bentsen of Texas / Governor Jerry Brown of California 49.957.043, 50.0% PV, 264 EV

A very 2000 like election; for most of the evening it all hinged on Florida (40.000 vote margin but much closer earlier on) and Iowa (which the networks refused to call despite a 52-45 split).

Like Gore Bentsen lost his homestate. Had he won either his own homestate or Brown's he'd have won the presidency.

Rhode Island had a 3.000 votes margin for Ford and was the closest state.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Yelnoc on September 25, 2010, 06:14:41 PM
I just downloaded this.  So far I have played as McCain and Clark and both times I ended up in the second place in the delegate count at the convention.  Though if I played as McCain again I could probably win the nomination; I just didn't know what I was doing at first.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on September 26, 2010, 02:09:13 PM
1936- I played as Huey Long

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Long/Wheeler- 273 EV's, 39.2%
Landon/Knox- 147 EV'S, 28.1%
Roosevelt/Garner- 111 EV's, 29.2%

I won the election when I won Arkansas. Roosevelt suffered the most due to negative campaigning from Long and Landon


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 26, 2010, 04:46:37 PM
I just pulled off one of my best comebacks ever on Hard. In 2008-Wonk, narrowly made it through the primaries with Feingold. On September 1st, I was down 38-52%. Two weeks before the election, I was down 42-51%. On election day, internals had me down 45-48.2%. I ran an extremely negative campaign in the last few weeks, and Romney never really gained enough momentum to win. On election night, in an upset...

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Romney/Pataki: 218 EVs, 48.9% Popular Vote
Feingold/Clinton: 320 EVs, 51.1% Popular Vote

I actually find it somewhat believable for 2008. Oklahoma is certainly a stretch though, and I think Feingold would win Arkansas before Louisiana. But other than that, I'd say as weird as it may look, it's not that bad.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on October 05, 2010, 08:40:20 PM
Never led on this one, by won 51.5-48.5% on election night. Keystone Phil would be really proud of this...

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Santorum/Pawlenty: 51.5%, 319 EVs
Obama/Clinton: 48.5%, 220 EVs



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 10, 2010, 05:38:23 PM
This one was just plain screwy.

Ran as 'me' and clinched the nomination just before the West Virginia primary in May. Obama remained in the race, and I even offered him the VP spot 3 times, but refused it.

After the convention my numbers went through the floor due to angry Obama supporters it seems, at one point, this was the map...


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Polnut/Clinton - 130 - 29% (Democrat was 45% before convention)
Romney/McCain - 372 - 44% (eventually made it as high at 49%)
Toss Up - 36


I pushed him hard, I absolutely drowned the airwaves, thankfully my heavy fundraising efforts worked... but something very odd must have happened in the electorate...

as this was the map... I lost NH and MN, but won AL and TN? Also the closest state...  WV and LA, by around 5,000 votes. Even TX was decided by less than 1%


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But think this was my best comeback

Polnut/Clinton - 327EV - 54.2%

Romney/McCain - 211 - 45.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hatman 🍁 on October 17, 2010, 12:08:14 AM
So, I finally bought Prime Minister forever and my girlfriend and I played it. I played as Harper but I changed the platform to my own personal beliefs. I did not recover. Caitlin played as Dion. Layton somehow won the game. :P

She closed the game before I could save it and show how pathetic we are.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on October 19, 2010, 08:43:20 AM
Playing with friends is always fun, more so on PMF than on PF+P. I played it with my friend, and Layton and Duceppe both came back to annoy us until we bonded together and kicked his ass.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 07, 2010, 04:42:13 PM
1992:

I played as Buchanan and was able to, after a long primary, beat Bush. Tsongas and Clinton took it to the convention where Tsongas won. Perot took enough Dem votes from Tsongas to give me state I couldn't have won otherwise, so I won in a landslide.

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Buchanan/Pete Wilson: PV - 40.9%; EV - 437
Tsongas/Lee Hamilton: PV - 32.8; EV - 87
Perot/Stockdale: PV - 26.4; EV - 14


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on November 09, 2010, 04:20:10 PM
This is a result from my custom 2012 scenario. One of the closest national popular vote differences I've ever seen in this game, and there was about a 2% difference or less between Obama and Romney in about 10 states.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 10, 2010, 04:30:47 PM
1960: I played as Kennedy. I won 340 - 169

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I had a healthy lead for the last half if the game leading about 46%-40%-.8% Nixon ended up winning most the undecideds on election night and came close to sweeping the south, luckily I held on to the deep south. Nixon won big in the plains states and the mountain west. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 12, 2010, 03:59:46 PM
1860: I played as Sam Houston

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Sewerd (R): PV - 30%; EV - 131
Houston (CU): PV - 35%; EV - 114
Breckenridge (SD): PV - 22%; EV - 56
Douglas (D) - PV - 13%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 13, 2010, 10:30:37 AM
1860: I played as Sam Houston

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Sewerd (R): PV - 30%; EV - 131
Houston (CU): PV - 35%; EV - 114
Breckenridge (SD): PV - 22%; EV - 56
Douglas (D) - PV - 13%

This a scenario for the 2008 version? Where can I get it? :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 14, 2010, 01:45:56 AM
1860: I played as Sam Houston

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Sewerd (R): PV - 30%; EV - 131
Houston (CU): PV - 35%; EV - 114
Breckenridge (SD): PV - 22%; EV - 56
Douglas (D) - PV - 13%

This a scenario for the 2008 version? Where can I get it? :)

The Theory sparks scenarios site


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on November 14, 2010, 02:23:13 AM
1860: I played as Sam Houston

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Sewerd (R): PV - 30%; EV - 131
Houston (CU): PV - 35%; EV - 114
Breckenridge (SD): PV - 22%; EV - 56
Douglas (D) - PV - 13%

The scenario is very flawed. If you have Campaigns Forever you can edit it, but the author needs to re-edit the scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 14, 2010, 10:06:51 PM
My running in 2008 as an Independent, even though my weighted positions were 3.0 to Obama's 2.8 - I seemed to do more damage to McCain early on, and eventually started to take voters from both sides... please note I gave myself a LOT of money.

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Obama/Biden - 322EV - 39.4% (Best state (not DC) - MA, 63.4%/ Worst state - WY, 20.7%)
McCain/Palin - 216EV - 37.6% (Best state - AL, 55.4%/ Worst state - HI, 16%)
Polnut/Hagel - 0EV - 22.1% (Best state - CT/NH, 32.3% / Worst state (that I was on the ballot) - AL, 14%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MorningInAmerica on November 16, 2010, 06:08:46 PM
An interesting little scenario involving Obama, Romney, and Bloomberg. Bloomberg proves to be a strong 3rd party challenger, despite not winning any states.


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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 19, 2010, 06:51:12 PM
I created a new 2004 scenario where Dean runs as Independent after losing in the primaries. Once I began to rise in the polls the Map became almost all blue for a while until Edwards imploded. I was slightly behind Bush until the west coast began reporting results where I finnaly overtook bush in the PV and EV but was still short of the 270. Then a last minute upset of Edwards in Oregon put me over the top.

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Howard Dean/Matt Gonzalez (I/G): PV - 36.2%; EV 271
Bush/Cheney (R): PV - 33.6%; EV - 248
Edwards/Richardson (D): PV - 29%; EV - 19
Peroutka/??? (C): PV - 1.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on November 19, 2010, 08:21:40 PM
I created a new 2004 scenario where Dean runs as Independent after losing in the primaries. Once I began to rise in the polls the Map became almost all blue for a while until Edwards imploded. I was slightly behind Bush until the west coast began reporting results where I finnaly overtook bush in the PV and EV but was still short of the 270. Then a last minute upset of Edwards in Oregon put me over the top.

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Howard Dean/Matt Gonzalez (I/G): PV - 36.2%; EV 271
Bush/Cheney (R): PV - 33.6%; EV - 248
Edwards/Richardson (D): PV - 29%; EV - 19
Peroutka/??? (C): PV - 1.2%

you seemed to have stolen a lot of Bush votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 19, 2010, 10:43:54 PM
I created a new 2004 scenario where Dean runs as Independent after losing in the primaries. Once I began to rise in the polls the Map became almost all blue for a while until Edwards imploded. I was slightly behind Bush until the west coast began reporting results where I finnaly overtook bush in the PV and EV but was still short of the 270. Then a last minute upset of Edwards in Oregon put me over the top.

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Howard Dean/Matt Gonzalez (I/G): PV - 36.2%; EV 271
Bush/Cheney (R): PV - 33.6%; EV - 248
Edwards/Richardson (D): PV - 29%; EV - 19
Peroutka/??? (C): PV - 1.2%

you seemed to have stolen a lot of Bush votes
Bush and Edwards both had Negative momentum pretty much the entire time during the general election so that helpes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 20, 2010, 08:03:29 PM
My worst P4ever results ever. 1984, I played as Jesse Jackson

(**WARNING** if you are a Democrat you may wish to look away)

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on November 20, 2010, 08:10:55 PM
My worst P4ever results ever. 1984, I played as Jesse Jackson

(**WARNING** if you are a Democrat you may wish to look away)

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If you lost D.C., you're the worst campaigner EVER.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 22, 2010, 07:08:16 PM
Best result ever as an independent :)

Obama and McCain got flogged through most of the campaign, I sailed through with positive momentum, while I still ran ads in every state, I focused on 11 states where I was behind by less than 25% at the start of the 4th week.
- NH
- ME
- VT
- CT
- CO
- NM
- VA
- FL
- WI
- CA
- TX

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This was a doozy, with the election not being called until 4:24am - when CA was called for Obama, which he won by roughly 30,000 votes.

Key state results
Texas -  McCain: 40.4% - Obama: 32.4% Polnut: 25.8%
Vermont - Polnut: 41.4% - Obama: 29.6% - McCain: 28.2%
Florida -  McCain: 36.4% - Polnut: 34.1% - Obama: 28%

Totals
Obama - 287 EV - 35.5%
McCain - 216 EV - 34.8%
Polnut -    35 EV - 28.4%

The only states I didn't get over 20%, were the states I wasn't on the ballot - MA, OK, NC, DC, AZ, HI and IN

I got over 30% in
FL, WI, NH, ME, CO, VT, NV, NM, VA, CT

...and over 40% in
VT, WI


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 22, 2010, 10:44:13 PM
2008: I played as Gore

Some how Romney was able to choose himself as Veep so lets just say it was

Gore/Warner vs 2008 Romney/1994 Romney

I won 56%-42%, 394-144

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on November 28, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
As part of my bizarre matchups spree:

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Gael M. L'Hermine (D-ME)/Russ Feingold (D-WI) 75,229,465 (57.8%) and 465 EVs
Bristol Palin (R-AK)/Sarah Palin (R-AK) 54,888,867 (42.3%) and 73 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MorningInAmerica on November 28, 2010, 10:28:29 PM
A fun space-barred election between Al Gore and Fred Thompson (2008).

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tpfkaw on December 02, 2010, 10:06:10 AM
Illinois?!?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MorningInAmerica on December 03, 2010, 12:22:20 AM
Agreed, very hard to believe.

Also, I'm not sure what Tennessee, NC, and Missouri are doing going Dem while Virginia is deep red. Also, given that Gore couldn't carry his homestate in 2000, I doubt he could carry it in 2008 when the Republican opponent is ALSO a Tennessean.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 03, 2010, 12:33:02 AM
A fun space-barred election between Al Gore and Fred Thompson (2008).

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How did you lose TN as Thompson??


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on December 03, 2010, 01:59:47 PM
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Bristol Palin/Christine O'Donnell 51,423,030 (51.1%) - 270EV
John Edwards/Evan Bayh 48,650,382 (48.3%) - 268EV
Nader 653,587 (0.6%) - 0EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 05, 2010, 03:05:13 PM
2008:

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Mitt Romney/Joseph Lieberman - 55.9%, 374 EV's
Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner - 44.1%, 164 EV's

Some interesting percentages, to say the least. It's almost realistic, minus percentages in the South.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tpfkaw on December 05, 2010, 03:08:42 PM
Massachusetts and Connecticut are what're most bizarre on that map.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 05, 2010, 03:11:05 PM
Massachusetts and Connecticut are what're most bizarre on that map.
Well, I got bonuses in both states since that's where the candidates were from. I also advertised and campaigned in both states, which was a help. I'm sure both MA and CT would have been closer in RL if McCain had done likewise, especially if Lieberman was his VP.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 10, 2010, 03:03:35 AM
2008:

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Mitt Romney/Joseph Lieberman - 55.9%, 374 EV's
Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner - 44.1%, 164 EV's

Some interesting percentages, to say the least. It's almost realistic, minus percentages in the South.
I bolded the parts that conflict with each other :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 12, 2010, 12:58:14 PM
2012:
I created a scenario with Sanders running as an indie

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Obama: PV - 43%; EV - 382
Romney: PV - 42%; EB- 156
Sanders: PV - 15%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Insula Dei on December 13, 2010, 07:46:08 PM
2012:
I created a scenario with Sanders running as an indie

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Obama: PV - 43%; EV - 382
Romney: PV - 42%; EB- 156
Sanders: PV - 15%

What a cool place America would be if that happened.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on December 14, 2010, 02:29:17 AM
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Barack Obama/Bill Richardson: 515 Electoral Votes, 63.5% PV
John McCain/Eric Cantor: 23 Electoral Votes, 36.5% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 19, 2010, 11:24:11 PM
2000:
I played as McCain and picked Engler as my running mate, Gore focused most of his efforts in the south while I spent most mine in the Midwest. the debates ended up 1-1-1 and neither one could really gain much over the other in the polls. on election day the undecided broke mostly for Gore, which sadly swung a few states I was leading in, such as KY and MO to go Gore. I won the EC he won the PV.

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McCain/ Engler: PV - 48.4%; EV - 295  
Gore/Lieberman: PV - 48.7%; EV - 243
Nader/LaDuke: PV - 2.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Insula Dei on December 22, 2010, 10:51:14 AM
2000:
I played as McCain and picked Engler as my running mate, Gore focused most of his efforts in the south while I spent most mine in the Midwest. the debates ended up 1-1-1 and neither one could really gain much over the other in the polls. on election day the undecided broke mostly for Gore, which sadly swung a few states I was leading in, such as KY and MO to go Gore. I won the EC he won the PV.

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McCain/ Engler: PV - 48.4%; EV - 295  
Gore/Lieberman: PV - 48.7%; EV - 243
Nader/LaDuke: PV - 2.9%

It's weird how Gore always seems to lose the EC even when winning the PV narrowly. The worst I ever saw was Gore-McCain playing out as 49.3-46.8 and 254-284.
I was Nader.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 29, 2010, 03:35:33 PM
1984: Lowell Weicker/Bob Dole vs Walt Mondale/Dale Bumpers

I won 60.5% - 39.5%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on January 09, 2011, 05:14:29 PM
1988: Robertson vs Jackson vs Paul (me) vs Fulani
I was able to come in 2nd place in 4 or 5 states, Broke 30% in 3 states, and won CA with 34%


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Robertson 45%
Jackson 39%
Paul 13%
Fulani 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on January 09, 2011, 07:08:51 PM

Went through primaries, eventually Clinton endorsed me and put me over the top, Obama refused to drop out or accept the VP slot until July, even though I wrapped up the nomination after the West Virgina primary.

So it was McCain/Pawlenty vs Polnut/Obama....


McCain really couldn't catch a break...



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There were about 5 states that were decided by less than 1% - I think the last minute nation-wide network TV ad I did on my leadership pushed them over... all except, AZ, which McCain held onto by less than 500 votes.

Polnut/Obama - 450 EV - 59.8%
McCain/Pawlenty - 88 EV - 40.2%

Best state (outside of DC): CT 80.2-19.8% (LOL!!!)

Worst state: UT 40.5-59.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on January 14, 2011, 01:23:52 AM
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Henry M. Jackson (D-WA)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 453 EV's, 55.7% PV
Gerald M. Ford (R-MI)/Robert Dole (R-KS): 85 EV's, 44.3% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on January 21, 2011, 02:14:42 AM
1960: aka Death of the Bell Wethers

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Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Abraham Ribicoff (D-CT): 356 EV, 53.3% PV
Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Everett Dirksen (R-IL) 181 EV, 46.7% PV

Closest State:

Arizona

215,872
to
215,852


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 22, 2011, 04:33:16 PM
Does anyone have the 1968 scenario? The site that has the download is down so i can't download it. Send me a Pm if anyone has it thanks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on January 25, 2011, 03:19:17 AM
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Gerald Ford/Ronald Reagan: 538 EV's, 63% PV
Jimmy Carter/Jerry Brown: 0 EV's, 37% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: To be is the answer to all penus on January 30, 2011, 11:24:40 PM
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Me (Indy)
Obama
and Palin



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 03, 2011, 11:30:24 AM

Palin in California! :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on February 09, 2011, 03:59:16 PM
^^

Though I'm guessing it's since the indepdent really took the votes from Obama in like a 5-1 margin


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on February 09, 2011, 07:58:18 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 17, 2011, 08:19:20 PM
I just got the Demo, played as Paul in the 2008 GOP Primaries, and won Iowa, NH, and SC, each time I was polling in the 7% area too.

Im buying the full version tommorow.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 17, 2011, 08:26:33 PM
I just got the Demo, played as Paul in the 2008 GOP Primaries, and won Iowa, NH, and SC, each time I was polling in the 7% area too.

Im buying the full version tommorow.
A great game :) Consider waiting, the 2012 version should be coming out very soon. That's what I'm waiting on.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 17, 2011, 09:03:39 PM
I just got the Demo, played as Paul in the 2008 GOP Primaries, and won Iowa, NH, and SC, each time I was polling in the 7% area too.

Im buying the full version tommorow.
A great game :) Consider waiting, the 2012 version should be coming out very soon. That's what I'm waiting on.

I will definatly get that. The mods look epic. 1968 especially.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on March 02, 2011, 08:39:20 PM
I just got the Demo, played as Paul in the 2008 GOP Primaries, and won Iowa, NH, and SC, each time I was polling in the 7% area too.

Im buying the full version tommorow.

Don't get too excited :P I remember in the older versions of P4E+P, really minor candidates (Gravel, Kucinich, and Paul, mostly, though I saw it happen with Hunter once too) would somehow insanely over-perform in the primaries. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 04, 2011, 09:39:27 PM
I just got the Demo, played as Paul in the 2008 GOP Primaries, and won Iowa, NH, and SC, each time I was polling in the 7% area too.

Im buying the full version tommorow.

Don't get too excited :P I remember in the older versions of P4E+P, really minor candidates (Gravel, Kucinich, and Paul, mostly, though I saw it happen with Hunter once too) would somehow insanely over-perform in the primaries. 

I've seen Hunter and Dodd win randomly, other wise, nothing to bad.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on March 23, 2011, 06:27:23 PM
An awkward one... during set up, I forgot to not close the Independent.... which is me also.

So the contest was

D: Polnut/Richardson
R: McCain/Palin
L: Barr/Eh... I don't care
I: Polnut/Hagel

So end result....

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Polnut/Richardson - 448 EV - 50.3%
McCain/Palin - 90 EV - 37.8%
"Libertarians" - 0 EV - 0.5%
Polnut/Hagel - 0 EV - 11.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on April 03, 2011, 12:41:46 AM
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Clinton/Gore- 322, 41.6%
Forbes/Kemp- 216, 41.2%
Perot/Choate- 16.2%
Nader- 0.3 %

I played as Perot, struggled the whole campaign to get up to 8%, but somehow I got 16%. Must have a hell of a glitch. Clinton won by 3,000 votes in California, it took the whole night to declare a winner. My best state was Montana where I got 31%, and almost beat Clinton.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on April 08, 2011, 11:15:49 PM
(Sorry I used the 2012 map for this)I did a run through of my created "United States - 1800 Election" to see if there's anything I need to change. North Carolina was the tipping point, Adams won it with 50.3% to Jefferson's 49.7%.

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(Federalist)-John Adams,MA/Charles Pinckney,SC: 79EV, 48.1%
(Democratic Republican)-Thomas Jefferson,VA/Aaron Burr,NY: 59EV, 51.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on April 10, 2011, 09:24:23 PM
2004:

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Rep: Bush/Cheney; 275 EV's, 48.3% of PV
Dem: Wesley Clark/Bill Richardson; 263 EV's, 49.2% of PV
Ind: Nader/Camejo; 0 EV's, 2.5%

I played as Wesley Clark in a 2004 scenario.  I hammered Bush on foreign policy, but he won the economy.  On the day before the election I was ahead 52-45 nationwide.  Internal polls had me uo 53-43 in California.  I was the heavy favorite going into election night, and as results poured in it looked more and more likley that I would win a big victory.  Alas, Bush won California by a mere 217 votes!!!  I was disapointed and amazed, to say the very least.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Historia Crux on April 11, 2011, 12:06:42 PM
Here are results from a scenario I created, based on the latest reset of Virtual Politics. Bonilla and Palin hammered each other, with Palin at the beginning leading big. The race tightened and by the end, Bonilla had unleashed waves of scandals on Palin, further tightening the race. The election eventually came down to either Minnesota or Mississippi, with Mississippi being won by Bonilla by 49.8% to Palin's 49.7%.

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(Democratic)-Gov. Basilio Bonilla,PA/Rep. Michael Holmes,TX: 270 EV, 47.9%
(Republican)-VP. Emma Palin,CA/Rep. Rick Andora,FL: 268 EV, 49.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 13, 2011, 09:29:55 PM
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2012

Obama/Biden - 462 EV - 53.2%
Romney/Rice - 76 EV - 38.1%
Paul/Crackpot - 0 EV - 8.7%

While Paul didn't crack 9% nationally, he did well enough in GA, AZ, MT, KY, SC, LA and TX that he certainly cost Romney those states.

FYI

CT: Obama: 56 Romney: 42
NJ: Obama 54 Romney: 42
GA: Obama: 47.5 Romney 47.4
AZ: Obama 46.2 Romney 46.0
TX: Obama 45.1 Romney 44.9


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on April 18, 2011, 01:45:24 AM
2004

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Bush - 386 EV, 42.5% PV
Kerry - 145 EV, 33.8% PV
O'Connor - 7 EV, 23.7% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Elyski on April 18, 2011, 05:09:14 PM
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Paul/Pawlenty(R) 321
Obama/Clinton(D) 217


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on April 26, 2011, 12:52:07 AM
Okay.. Polling did not suggest a result even remotely like this. But I suppose my 'bombs away at the last minute' strategy worked as always.

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Christian Mattingly/Chuck Baldwin: 241 EV, 36.5% PV
Wesley Clark/Bill Richardson: 190 EV, 31.6% PV
George W. Bush/Richard Cheney: 107 EV, 31.9% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Yelnoc on April 27, 2011, 06:01:32 PM
Okay.. Polling did not suggest a result even remotely like this. But I suppose my 'bombs away at the last minute' strategy worked as always.

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Christian Mattingly/Chuck Baldwin: 241 EV, 36.5% PV
Wesley Clark/Bill Richardson: 190 EV, 31.6% PV
George W. Bush/Richard Cheney: 107 EV, 31.9% PV
What difficulty?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #CriminalizeSobriety on April 29, 2011, 01:15:16 AM
Okay.. Polling did not suggest a result even remotely like this. But I suppose my 'bombs away at the last minute' strategy worked as always.

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Christian Mattingly/Chuck Baldwin: 241 EV, 36.5% PV
Wesley Clark/Bill Richardson: 190 EV, 31.6% PV
George W. Bush/Richard Cheney: 107 EV, 31.9% PV
What difficulty?

EZ. I don't play often enough to be any good. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on May 01, 2011, 11:44:37 PM
Playing as Warner in 2008

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Warner/Bayh - 56.1%
Romney/Pawlenty - 42.8%
Others - 1.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Elyski on June 02, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
Republican primaries (I'm Paul), forgt delegate number in total though.

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McCain
Paul
Romney
Guiliani


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 19, 2011, 02:26:47 PM
2008:

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Played as John Thune, lost to Al Gore. I'm actually really proud of this scenario. As you all know, sometimes when there is a split convention, the the winning candidate from that convention goes into the GE in a huge hole; mine was 69%-12%. I managed to close the gap to 53-46, and probably could have won if it was another week or two delayed.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on June 22, 2011, 11:57:38 AM
2008:
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John Edwards/Barack Obama: 57.8% PV, 481 EV
Rudy Giuliani/Jeb Bush: 40.3% PV, 57 EV
Others: 1.9% EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 29, 2011, 10:21:54 PM
Finally bought the full version...Lost a 50 state landslide as Romney to Clinton, and lost as Gerald Ford in a rematch against Carter by a small margin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 30, 2011, 01:22:42 PM
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President George Bush/Pat Buchanan-393 EV-42,404,834
Governor Bill Clinton/Senator Al Gore-89 EV-36,494,928 PV  
Ross Perot/Pat Choate-56 EV-31,197,103 PV.


Started as Cuomo, and narrowly lost the DNC to Clinton. Took over as Clinton/Gore, but ended up wasting my time attacking Perot (and taking too many of his positions), which allowed Bush to use numerous scandals against me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 06, 2011, 09:56:49 PM
Anyone know where their is a 1968 or 1972 scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on July 06, 2011, 09:59:22 PM
Anyone know where their is a 1968 or 1972 scenario?

There used to be a 1968 Scenario. But the download site has been taking down and no one can get in touch with the original creator.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 06, 2011, 11:55:12 PM
Anyone know where their is a 1968 or 1972 scenario?

There used to be a 1968 Scenario. But the download site has been taking down and no one can get in touch with the original creator.

Dang :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 10, 2011, 04:29:45 PM
Played as VP Bush in 1988-easily won the primaries over Pat Robertson and Bob Dole, and picked Dole as my running mate at the 1988 convention. Dukakis won the Democratic primaries, though Simon and Jackson put up a fight. He pulled a Cheney and got Kennedy on the ticket. I won (albeit narrowly), so I figure Im getting better..
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Vice President George Bush/Senator Robert Dole-286-45.2
Governor Mike Dukakis/Senator Ted Kennedy-252-41.4%
Former Rep. Ron Paul/Activist Russel Means-7.0%
Activist Leonora Fulani/Activist Fred Whitfield-6.3%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 11, 2011, 02:38:22 PM
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Clinton/Kaine versus Giuliani/Romney


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 11, 2011, 04:05:26 PM
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General Collin Powell/Speaker Newt Gingrich-278 EV-48% PV
President Bill Clinton/VP Al Gore-260-47.4% of PV
Others (Perot, Nader, Libertarian, Constitution)-4.6% of the PV

I played only the General, had the Big Mo, and came close to a landslide. A string of scandals brought it much, much closer.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 12, 2011, 01:24:41 PM
Played the General campaign in 84, Reagan vs McGovern (just for the giggles)..Took only a hour and 7 minutes in the end game results to show I won a landslide. A Map is not needed--I won every state accept DC..Anderson took 10% of the popular vote, and came close to winning Vermont.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 12, 2011, 01:33:25 PM
2008:
Bill Richardson/Mark Warner against Giuliani/Romney

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NVGonzalez on July 13, 2011, 06:13:50 PM
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Year: 2000
Difficulty: Hard

Gore/Feingold 54% 459 EVs
Bush/Cheney 42% 59 EVs
Others 3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on July 14, 2011, 02:30:17 PM
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2008:
Allen/Sanford - 293 Electoral Votes, 54% Popular Vote
Clinton/Richardson - 245 Elecotral Votes, 45% Popular Vote

Not quite sure how to explain this, other than President Forever works in mysterious ways. D.C. is no mistake, I actually won it by around 9 points. In both D.C. and New York I never made a stop there yet somehow managed to win them. If I had lost New York, riots probably would have occurred, considering I won the popular vote very comfortably due to running up percentages in GOP strongholds and keeping Clinton under 60% in every state she won.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: California8429 on July 14, 2011, 02:37:02 PM
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General Collin Powell/Speaker Newt Gingrich-278 EV-48% PV
President Bill Clinton/VP Al Gore-260-47.4% of PV
Others (Perot, Nader, Libertarian, Constitution)-4.6% of the PV

I played only the General, had the Big Mo, and came close to a landslide. A string of scandals brought it much, much closer.

Clinton wins the surrounding states but not Arkansas itself lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on July 15, 2011, 02:01:19 PM
2000: Bush vs Gore vs Me

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Bush: PV 42.7%, EV 267
Gore: PV 42.5%, EV 271
Me: PV 14.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 16, 2011, 12:45:04 PM
Played Perot, built a strong base out West, and in Maine, and used 6-7 medium/high level scandals in the last 2 days. I had a massive war chest built up, and ran a strong ad campaign as well.
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President George H.W Bush/Governor George Voinovich-353 EV---40,596,163 votes (38%)
Governor Bill Clinton/Senator Tom Harkin-143 EV---35,823,995 votes (33.6%)
Ross Perot/James Stockdale-42 EV---30,354,886 (28.4%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on July 26, 2011, 06:37:38 PM
I played as the LibDems

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on July 29, 2011, 09:34:09 PM
Kerry vs Bush vs Dean (indy)

Kerry won the popular vote, Dean in 2nd, Bush in 3rd. Bush won in the House.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 29, 2011, 10:08:28 PM
Kerry vs Bush vs Dean (indy)

Kerry won the popular vote, Dean in 2nd, Bush in 3rd. Bush won in the House.

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Who was Deans running mate?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 30, 2011, 01:15:06 AM
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Ford/Reagan-493-49,983,090 (50.3%)
Carter/Wallace-46-42,183,036 (42.5%)
McCarthy/Vidal-7,165,527 (7.2%)

I played McCarthy, I renamed his party to be the "Peoples Party", a pseudo Libertarian outfit, with Ralph Nader, and Gore Vidal as running mates. I might add Ellen McCormack as a possible candidate. I used the editor to give a few more PIP's, but otherwise, nothing was changed. I came in 2nd in Alaska, beating out Carter.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NVGonzalez on August 03, 2011, 01:59:30 AM
anyone got a nice up to date 2012 scenario?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 03, 2011, 08:02:49 AM
anyone got a nice up to date 2012 scenario?
I have a 2012 scenario, but its outdated. John Thune, Mark Sanford, and Mike Pence are all candidates, and there are no listed Governors for endorsement.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NVGonzalez on August 03, 2011, 04:17:39 PM
anyone got a nice up to date 2012 scenario?
I have a 2012 scenario, but its outdated. John Thune, Mark Sanford, and Mike Pence are all candidates, and there are no listed Governors for endorsement.

I can take it and fix it a little bit. Is it the one that has Ventura on it also?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 03, 2011, 04:28:10 PM
anyone got a nice up to date 2012 scenario?
I have a 2012 scenario, but its outdated. John Thune, Mark Sanford, and Mike Pence are all candidates, and there are no listed Governors for endorsement.

I can take it and fix it a little bit. Is it the one that has Ventura on it also?
No, and it has Ron Paul as a Libertarian, not a Republican...their is a Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and Obama version, but all 3 are the same, minus the incubnet president.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NVGonzalez on August 03, 2011, 10:03:04 PM
anyone got a nice up to date 2012 scenario?
I have a 2012 scenario, but its outdated. John Thune, Mark Sanford, and Mike Pence are all candidates, and there are no listed Governors for endorsement.

I can take it and fix it a little bit. Is it the one that has Ventura on it also?
No, and it has Ron Paul as a Libertarian, not a Republican...their is a Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and Obama version, but all 3 are the same, minus the incubnet president.
Ooh I think I know what scenario you have. I can build something out of that but it is going to take me some time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Antonio the Sixth on August 18, 2011, 09:01:55 AM
Playing Ted Kennedy in 1980.

I started the campaign with a slight edge, but spent too much time fortifying my strongholds, and meanwhile Carter pulled ahead in every other State. He swept Iowa and NH, and was unbeatable in the entire South and the West. I was ahead in Washington, but for some reason still lost. I had no choice but to campaign in solid Carter States. In the end, I miraculously took a few of them (must've had a big momentum).

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Ted Kennedy : 53%, 1717 del.
Jimmy Carter : 47%, 1557 del.


Rep primaries were a complete mess. They ended up as a Reagan vs. Ford fight, which Ford narrowly won.

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Ford : 53.5%, 1092 del.
Reagan : 46.5%, 880 del.


For some reason, I started the general election with a commanding lead, which of course went significantly down in the early stages of the campaign. When things settled I was leading by around 10 points, and managed to keep this lead during the whole campaing. I missed almost all endorsers, but I compensated by creating a load of footsolders in crucial States (NY, PA, NJ, OH, MI, IL, CA, FL). I won the two debates and managed to increase my momentum.

Going into the election, I led Ford 439-37. Tossups were NH, VA, FL, MS, LA, ND, OR and AK.

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Ted Kennedy : 54.3%, 484 EVs
Gerald Ford : 45.7%, 54 EVs

I almost carried Alaska (49.6%). Ford almost carried Kansas (49.5%) and Oregon (49.4%). I almost broke 60% in Hawaii (59.9%), Maryland (59.8%), and West Virginia (59%).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on August 19, 2011, 07:34:32 PM
2004: Played as Dean/Rendell vs Bush/Cheney

The closest state was Virginia which I won by ~5000 votes.
I won the EV with 311 but Bush won the PV 50%-49%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: allnjhaugh on August 21, 2011, 08:35:57 PM
Played my custom 2012 scenario. Banged it out in a couple of hours, anybody want a copy? feedback would be appreciated!

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Mitt Romney, 35.6%, 1084 delegates
Rick Perry, 37%, 797 delegates
Jon Huntsman, 27.4%, 576 delegates
Somehow, I (Huntsman) got endorsed by Perry after all the primaries ended. Despite leading in the polls, for some strange reason he always stays at -8% chance.

Next up, Huntsman vs. Obama at 46/45 and 244/242.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: allnjhaugh on August 22, 2011, 05:24:50 PM
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Barack Obama/Barbara Boxer (D): 65,615,891 PV, 47.7%, 250 EVs
Jon Huntsman/Scott Brown (R): 71,924,552 PV, 52.3%, 288 EVs
Best state:
Obama: VT, 57.7%
Huntsman: WY, 70.1%
Closest state: NJ, 50%/50%, 2,043,599/2,041,201
I'd say this scenario is pretty fairly balanced.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 22, 2011, 06:22:04 PM
Id be interested in your 2012 scenario :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Simfan34 on August 22, 2011, 07:16:21 PM
I want a copy!!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on September 04, 2011, 04:06:50 PM
2000: Bush vs Gore vs Me

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Bush: PV 42.7%, EV 267
Gore: PV 42.5%, EV 271
Me: PV 14.8%

What were your best states? I mean, percentage wise and if you came in second in any of them! :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on September 04, 2011, 04:32:12 PM
my best ever game was this. In 1996 I smoked Dole with 55% of the vote, Perot taking about 11%:

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I also did this as Mondale:

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What were Perot's best states?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 08, 2011, 08:24:12 PM
Using NVGonzalezs AMAZING 2012 mod....
I added a few candidates and VP's, and turned on the Constitution Party. I played Cindy Sheehan, my best performance was 3.3% in California. Really the same as 2008 with a third party hogginh some votes away..
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President Barack Obama/Former Governor Howard Dean-357 EV, 48,845,807 PV (51.3%).
Former Governor Mitt Romney/Former UN Ambassador John Bolton-181 EV, 39,075,928 PV (41.1%).
Former Congressman Virgil Goode/Perenial Candidate Alan Keyes-5,279,293 PV (5.5%)
Activist Cindy Sheehan/Former Member of San Fransisco Board of Suprevisors Matt Gonzalez-1,318,028 PV (1.4%)
Former Party Chairman R. Lee Wrights/Activist Mary Ruwart-641,478 PV (0.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on September 08, 2011, 11:22:30 PM
NY 2010: played as Paladino

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: allnjhaugh on September 11, 2011, 12:55:11 AM
Using NVGonzalezs AMAZING 2012 mod....
I added a few candidates and VP's, and turned on the Constitution Party. I played Cindy Sheehan, my best performance was 3.3% in California. Really the same as 2008 with a third party hogginh some votes away..
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President Barack Obama/Former Governor Howard Dean-357 EV, 48,845,807 PV (51.3%).
Former Governor Mitt Romney/Former UN Ambassador John Bolton-181 EV, 39,075,928 PV (41.1%).
Former Congressman Virgil Goode/Perenial Candidate Alan Keyes-5,279,293 PV (5.5%)
Activist Cindy Sheehan/Former Member of San Fransisco Board of Suprevisors Matt Gonzalez-1,318,028 PV (1.4%)
Former Party Chairman R. Lee Wrights/Activist Mary Ruwart-641,478 PV (0.7%)

Did you play the primaries? If so, have you seen the Perry endorsement offers? For me, he's always at like -8% no matter how strong he is in the polls, in both my scenario and NVGonzalez's.

Why does perry always have to be such a quitter in this game? :/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 16, 2011, 04:20:06 PM
1996
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Governor Lamar Alexander/Senator Arlen Specter-306 EV, 46.5 PV.
President Bill Clinton/Represenative Richard Gephardt-232 EV, 42.4%  PV
Ross Perot/Former Governor Richard Lamm-9.1% PV
Others (Green, Constitution, Libertarian)-1.9%

Played as Alexander. Buchanan won the first primaries, but lost steam. I won Iowa by a large margin, collecting all the delegates, the same for SC, and FL. Afterwords, I received a challenge from Gramm (Dole was off), who took up alot of votes, but with a endorsement from Lugar (my main rival early on), winning the nomination, and picking Specter as a running mate. Clinton received challenges from Gephart, LaRouche, and Dodd. Clinton won every primary, though Iowa was won by only 5%...A Power 9 scandal on Bill 2 weeks before the election sealed the deal, but I was going to win with/or without my scandal :)

EDIT: I did the whole campaign with a war cheast of 12,000,000, and no ads to the last two days.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 26, 2011, 07:48:28 PM
Best Game Yet ;) 2000
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Senator Evan Bayh/Senator Russ Feingold-346 EV, 49,769,282 PV (45.8%).
Governor George W Bush/Former Senator John Danforth-192 EV, 47,360,281 PV (43.6%).
Activist Ralph Nader/Former Congressman Dan Hamburg-6,245,136 PV (5.8%)
Activist Pat Buchanan/Activist Ezola Foster-5,203,443 (4.8%)

I edited 2000 alot since I got this scenario. I added Paul Wellstone, and Evan Bayh to the Democratic primaries, and lots of extra VP options for each party. I created Bayh today, expecting to come in dead last in each primary. I started off with 8% in Iowa. I won Iowa, New Hampshire, and eventually, the nomination at a divided convention. Gore lost votes to the right to Bayh, and to the Left from Wellstone and Bradley. Bush won his primaries easily, though McCain and Dole gave some opposition here and their. With a centrist's Bayh and Bush (somewhat) as the nominees of the major parties, the Left boomed. Nader got 11% in Georgia, and averaged 10% in most states. Buchanan won the Teamsters and AFL-CIO endorsements for his protectionist positions. The election was extremely close, though I pulled it off. Two days before the election, it looked like Bush was gonna win a landslide.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 24, 2011, 07:08:18 PM
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I cant edit Maine, but I won it too...I played Ron Paul vs Leonora Fulani in 88 without major parties, and won a landslide.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deano1001 on October 30, 2011, 06:13:40 PM
I'd like a copy of any 2012 scenario you guys have available...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on October 31, 2011, 01:13:47 AM
Best Game Yet ;) 2000
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Senator Evan Bayh/Senator Russ Feingold-346 EV, 49,769,282 PV (45.8%).
Governor George W Bush/Former Senator John Danforth-192 EV, 47,360,281 PV (43.6%).
Activist Ralph Nader/Former Congressman Dan Hamburg-6,245,136 PV (5.8%)
Activist Pat Buchanan/Activist Ezola Foster-5,203,443 (4.8%)

I edited 2000 alot since I got this scenario. I added Paul Wellstone, and Evan Bayh to the Democratic primaries, and lots of extra VP options for each party. I created Bayh today, expecting to come in dead last in each primary. I started off with 8% in Iowa. I won Iowa, New Hampshire, and eventually, the nomination at a divided convention. Gore lost votes to the right to Bayh, and to the Left from Wellstone and Bradley. Bush won his primaries easily, though McCain and Dole gave some opposition here and their. With a centrist's Bayh and Bush (somewhat) as the nominees of the major parties, the Left boomed. Nader got 11% in Georgia, and averaged 10% in most states. Buchanan won the Teamsters and AFL-CIO endorsements for his protectionist positions. The election was extremely close, though I pulled it off. Two days before the election, it looked like Bush was gonna win a landslide.

Which were the best states for Nader and Buchanan?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 21, 2011, 06:08:54 PM
The Nader Series---1996
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Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-478 EV, 41,144,932 popular votes.
President Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT)-60 EV, 31,090,782 popular votes.
Businessman Ross Perot (Reform-TX)/Economist Pat Choate (Reform-DC)-8,404,142 popular votes.
Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Musician Jello Biafra (G-CA)-2,155,677 popular votes.
Activist Harry Browne (L-TE)/Activist Jo Jorgensen (L-SC)-658,347 popular votes.
Activist Howard Phillips (C-VA)/Activist Herb Titus (C-OK)-192,789 popular votes.

I was Nader. Im gonna play him in 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, and maybe I will add him for the 2012 scenario. My best state was California, with 8.7%, and in Vermont I got 8.1%. I performed well in Maine, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Mass.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 22, 2011, 07:25:52 PM
The Nader Series---2000
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Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA)-348 EV, 52,841,128 popular votes.
President John McCain (R-AR)/Governor George Pataki (R-NY)-190 EV, 49,665,791 popular votes.
Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Former Congressman Dan Hamburg (G-CA)-4,231,901 popular votes.
Activist Pat Buchanan (Reform-VA)/Former Congressman Ron Paul (Reform-TX) -1,074,651 popular votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 03, 2011, 01:22:56 AM
Bush v. Kennedy 1980

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 04, 2011, 12:35:24 AM
2008 Huck vs Clinton

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59-41


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: fezzyfestoon on December 04, 2011, 10:44:13 AM
Aw, man...I forgot about this thread! I played for the first time in a while last week and got a ridiculously close result. It was one of the best campaigns I've run yet. It came down to a little over 100 votes in Washington and I won. I wish I saved the map!

I think it was something like this:
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279-259

I remember spending way too much time defending the Northeast (because I was Obama facing Giuliani) and neglecting everywhere else. I started losing the Midwest near the end and thought I was done for when the whole area started going Republican. I won the popular vote by only a few thousand too. It was awesome...SO close


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Cincinnatus on December 08, 2011, 09:11:10 PM

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Bush/Quayle V Cuomo/Casey [w/ Perot]
281-257

Barely any states had a candidate see over 50%.  Bush beat Cuomo in Ohio by about 1800 votes, and Perot continued to get about 20% of the vote throughout most of the states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 12, 2011, 04:47:31 PM
2000 McCain vs Gore
very very very close race until the final week. tied at 43-43 each for nearly the entire game. Every time someone made gains somewhere they were cancled out by the other making gains somewhere else.

it looks like this going into the election:
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NVGonzalez on December 18, 2011, 03:35:22 AM
2004 Hard

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Dean/Clark 310 EV's 47.8% 50,373,181
Bush/Cheney 228 EV's 47.8% 50,367,264
Nader 0 EV's 1.9% 1,997,581
Badnarik 0 EV's 1.5% 1,605,080
Peroutka 0 EV's 0.9% 952,996

This is probably the most intense campaign I have ever played. Being Howard Dean I was in a primary where nobody wanted to drop out. First person did not drop out until May and I had to use all my PIPs to convince Kerry to drop out a month before the convention. When the GE started I was down 6 points with not a lot of undecideds left so my only choice was to go negative on Bush and put many footsoldiers on the ground while I hope for scandals. By election night I was down by 1 but led in the EV count. My strategy succeeded as you can see. I ended up winning by less than a few thousand votes in the PV and didn't gain a PV vote lead until an hour before counting was complete.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 24, 2011, 04:01:06 PM
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Senator John Kerry (D-MA)/Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM)-273 EV, 46.3% of popular vote.
President George Bush (R-DC*)/Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)-265 EV, 47.4% of the popular vote.
Others-6.3% of the popular vote.

I played Kerry, and quickly used momentum to knock out all rivals. I won Iowa by a massive margin, Dean, my nearest opponent, got 9% of the vote. I won every early to middle primary, and no rival got more than 200 delegates. Near the end, Clark gave me a minor challenge, winning all the end primaries, but I had 2000 delegates to his 800. I also added Ron Paul as a primary candidate, with about 10% to Powell, who I edited to have 20%. Paul won Iowa, and Powell won NH. Chafee endorsed Paul and Powell fizzled out after South Carolina. Bush only won by 300 delegates, and Paul became his VP. So I assume Bush registered as a citizen of DC for that too work. I raised a ton of money and ran a negative campaign. But when the general started, I was down energy wise -175 because of a whole weeks worth of fundraisers. Still, adds, scandals, and spinning stories kept things tight, though Kerry did no campaigning for 3 weeks, and lost all 3 debates by massive margins. I made no media appearances. The race was called at 4:48 AM. I won New Hampshire by 704 votes, and by 146 votes in New Mexico.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: allnjhaugh on December 26, 2011, 08:01:30 PM
Used NVGonzalez's new update (It's AMAZING),
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)-237 EV, 46,286,971 popular votes
Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)-217 EV, 45,533,806 popular votes
Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Lance Brown (L-CA)-84 EV, 37,555,872 popular votes
Kent Mesplay (G-CA)/Grace Ross (G-IL)-0 EV, 104,797 popular votes
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Obama absolutely would've won had I not ran as Johnson. Congress elected Obama.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 28, 2011, 02:15:37 AM
Kennedy vs Carter 1980

Despite my best efforts, going all the way until the very end, I just couldn't beat him :(

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on December 30, 2011, 08:15:16 PM
The 2012 Scenario on the theoryspark site:

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Trump/Christie- 333 EV's, 49%
Clinton/Obama(of all people)-205 EV's, 43.%
Root/Brown-0 EV's,3.5 %
Baldwin/Castle-0 EV's,4.4%

The Independents screwed me up in the Northeast, as they cost me Rhode island and Maine to Hillary. I came from behind to beat Romney, and Hillary won in an upset at the convention.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on January 02, 2012, 04:32:43 PM
Weirdest game yet...The sucesser game to my last post here.
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President John Kerry (D-MA)/Vice President Bill Richardson (D-NM)-352 EV, 51.4% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)-186 EV, 45.4% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)/Activist Mary Ruwart (L-TX)-0 EV, 3.2% of the popular vote.

I turned off all Democrats accept for Kerry, with Sharpton, Nader, and Kucinich being primary opponents.  I received no opposition, though. The Republican primaries were between Romney and Paul, before Rudy won big on Super Tuesday. Up until the last week, Rudy was leading. A few good ads changed that ;)

 Edit: Used the wrong map, but it was pretty much right. Same percentages and states, same number I listed below the map, just differant numbers on the map.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 05, 2012, 09:18:23 PM
Wormyguy's 68 scenario (I played as Wallace):

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Nixon/Agnew- 347 EV's,36.9%
Johnson/Humphrey- 111 EV's,33.1%
Wallace/Lemay- 80 EV's, 30%

Tossup States:

Delaware: Nixon beat Johnson by 204 votes.
California: Nixon beat Johnson by .04% or 64,000
Florida: Wallace beat Nixon by .08% or 45,000
Idaho: Nixon beat Wallace by 1.1%
Arizona: Nixon beat Wallace by 1.7%
Kansas: Nixon beat Wallace by 2.2%
Ohio: Nixon beat Johnson by 2.5%
Maryland: Nixon beat Johnson by 2.7%
New York: Johnson beat Nixon by 3%
Alaska: Nixon beat Johnson by 4%
Indiana:Nixon beat Johnson by 5.4%
Nevada: Nixon beat Johnson by 7%
Utah: Nixon beat Wallace by 7%
South Dakota: Nixon beat Johnson by 8.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jerseyrules on January 07, 2012, 05:38:34 PM
Does anyone know when 2012 comes out?  Or are they just adding the 2012 scenario as an update, and not make a new game?  (I can't decide whether to wait till the new game version comes out ;))


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on January 28, 2012, 06:01:45 AM
KENNEDY V REAGAN - 1980

I started off being spanked

I had clear leads in only MN, GA, DC and MA at points, and was down by 7% in the general polls.

But in the last 3 weeks, I engaged in saturation advertising and focusing on the Rust Belt, the Northeast, the Mississippi Corridor as well as California.

I suddenly surged and in the final polls I had closed the gap to only 3%...

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Kennedy/Glenn - 299EV - 43.9%
Reagan/Bush - 239EV - 44%
Anderson/Lucey - 0EV - 12.1%

I did lose the popular vote, but only by 109,000


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on January 28, 2012, 05:36:08 PM
2010 Arizona Senate Election.
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Senator John McCain (R-AZ)-904,360 votes (56.0%).
Activist David Nolan (L-AZ)-365,579 votes (22.6%).
Former Governor Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)-329,209 votes (20.4%).
Activist Jerry Joslyn (G-AZ)-16,684 votes (1.0%).

I played Nolan. My strategy? Footsoldiers! Footsoldiers! Footsoldiers! Every county, every week, new ones were made. I edited the game slightly to give Nolan one crusader, in the form of Ron Paul. I came within 4% of Apache county. I figure I was the "Tea Party" candidate.

Edit: I got my colors confused. I also realized colors is "colors" not "colars".....


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jerseyrules on January 28, 2012, 06:18:06 PM
So is there going to be a 2012 full game or just the added scenario to p4e 08?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 01, 2012, 08:28:46 PM
2012 Scenario:

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Newt Gingrich/Mitt Romney 452 EV, 57.7% PV
Barack Obama/Joe Biden 86 EV, 42.7% PV

Obama was leading until the final week by about 48-44. On the eve of the election I had 268 EVs in my pocket. Good ad strategy, foot soldiers, and strong third debate performance.

In the primary I edged out Cain in Iowa and New Hampshire and got a nice national boost. Cain beat me in SC/FL however, and Romney took every Feb state except for Arizona (which I won by a hair). Cain, Romney, and Gingrich split Super Tuesday and eventually I rebounded, gaining the endorsements of everyone who dropped out, and secured the nomination with California with about ~54% of the delegates. Picked Romney as VP to  hammer Obama faster.

2012 Scenario is fun. Some states need to be fixed though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on February 01, 2012, 08:51:06 PM
I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NVGonzalez on February 01, 2012, 09:36:48 PM
I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on February 01, 2012, 11:33:23 PM
I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 02, 2012, 01:16:48 AM
I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

That, and Obama faces some pretty severe headwinds from "Poor Economic Indicators" the ENTIRE game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NVGonzalez on February 02, 2012, 01:33:05 AM
I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

That, and Obama faces some pretty severe headwinds from "Poor Economic Indicators" the ENTIRE game.

Good to know that my scenario easily defeats the scenario that the actual game developers actually released :D

Though yes such a horrible scenario.. I played and I was amazed at how horrible it was.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 02, 2012, 12:58:49 PM
I've noticed in the 2012 scenario NV is made too democratic.

Is this the scenario I made?

The Scenario theory spark released. Also Obama seems to have 0% chance of beating Hillary when she is turned on. It is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to easy to win as her.

That, and Obama faces some pretty severe headwinds from "Poor Economic Indicators" the ENTIRE game.

Good to know that my scenario easily defeats the scenario that the actual game developers actually released :D

Though yes such a horrible scenario.. I played and I was amazed at how horrible it was.
I love your scenario :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on February 02, 2012, 04:14:23 PM
1976:

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Ronald Reagan/Jesse Helms-280 EV's,47.7% PV
Jimmy Carter/Walter Mondale-259 EV's,51.2% PV
Eugene McCarthy-1.1% of the PV

This is probably the weirdest game I have ever seen on PF. I played as McCarthy and spaced my way through the game, and Carter mostly dominated the race. Reagan won the last two debates, and Helms barely beat Mondale in the VP debate. In the final pre polls Carter was expected to win big time by winning NY and Texas. But on Election Day, Carter lost both and won Montana and Oklahoma instead, which was unexpected.  McCarthy had 0.5% in the polls and ended up with 1% out of nowhere. I have to admit this was entertaining to watch play out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 04, 2012, 08:35:39 PM
Using the March 2007 edition....
EDIT: Image removed, since Tinypic reuses URLs. This one was reused for a rather bizzare picture.

Total results are displayed. Johnson got 8% in Alabama, otherwise, he averaged around 1-4%. It was Locke/Clark vs Romney/Cheney. I was Locke, who I made this afternoon. I started with a strategy of winning NH, NV, Georgia, and Delaware. I expanded into Iowa in August, which I won. I won NH with 45% of the vote, and NV with 50% of the vote. Obama got knocked down quickly, and endorsed me after Super Tuesday. Richardson and Edwards won alot of states, and Biden built up a small mass of delagates, but my real battle was with Hillary. It went to the convention, which I won by 1000 delagates after Richardson and Edwards endorsed me. Romney had no competition it seemed, but then again, I put Hagel, Frist, Allen, Pataki, and Gingrich on as well, so votes were split.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 08, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
I decided to try Obama v Santorum... I had him pick Susana Martinez as his VP choice.

It was actually incredibly close with neither Obama or Santorum breaking 44% until the last 3 weeks, with I started to spin like crazy and saturation advertising and Obama started to pull away eventually with a 47-44% lead on election day... and this was the map.

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So Obama was already at 316 EV

and when all said and done...

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Obama/Biden: 405EV - 55%
Santorum/Martinez: 133EV - 44.1%
Others: 0.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on February 11, 2012, 06:07:23 PM
2012:

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Perry/DeMint 55.7% and 358 EV
Obama/Biden 44.3% and 180 EV

Always kinda screwy. Hard to ever get a very close/down to the wire election night on PFP, I only recall getting that once playing as Edwards in 2004.

80% in Wyoming, 81% in Utah, 76% in Texas... lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hash on February 12, 2012, 03:04:50 PM
Edited my fictional character into a 1976 scenario:

Primaries

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Chris Garrett (VT) 1505 final delegates
Carter (GA) 1432 final delegates
Byrd (orange), Wallace (yellow), Jackson (red)

Focused on a few big states, lost the final states (a whole lot of them) in a landslide, but eeked out a majority.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MASHED POTATOES. VOTE! on February 12, 2012, 03:32:35 PM
Edited my fictional character into a 1976 scenario:

Primaries

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Chris Garrett (VT) 1505 final delegates
Carter (GA) 1432 final delegates
Byrd (orange), Wallace (yellow), Jackson (red)

Focused on a few big states, lost the final states (a whole lot of them) in a landslide, but eeked out a majority.

You lost your home state?

EDIT: Oh wait, it's PF after all.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 23, 2012, 07:31:37 PM
I really like the 2012 scenario! Just got to 400-odd delegates as Jon Huntsman, quite an achievement.

Can't wait for the Santorum surge update!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on February 24, 2012, 11:16:30 AM
I've tried, briefly, with Cain and Romney on, and it seems like no one other than Romney, Gingrich and Cain have any sort of chance at winning the nomination.

This, although stays true to IRL I guess since the game starts just as Perry crashed. Assuming Santorum'll be boosted in the next update.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 26, 2012, 07:34:07 PM
For whatever its worth, does anyone know where I can more scenarios? I checked theory spark, and their forum, but every single scenario availiable is impossible to attain.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on February 26, 2012, 09:04:22 PM
For whatever its worth, does anyone know where I can more scenarios? I checked theory spark, and their forum, but every single scenario availiable is impossible to attain.

Which scenarios are you looking for? Any in particular?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 27, 2012, 04:36:03 PM
For whatever its worth, does anyone know where I can more scenarios? I checked theory spark, and their forum, but every single scenario availiable is impossible to attain.

Which scenarios are you looking for? Any in particular?
The President Gore in 2004 looked good, as well as the alternate 2000 with all the third party candidates. And the 2012 free-for-all :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Ariosto on February 29, 2012, 09:51:53 PM
The President Gore in 2004 looked good, as well as the alternate 2000 with all the third party candidates. And the 2012 free-for-all :)

That would not happen to be "Wacked Edition" would it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 01, 2012, 04:26:17 PM
The President Gore in 2004 looked good, as well as the alternate 2000 with all the third party candidates. And the 2012 free-for-all :)

That would not happen to be "Wacked Edition" would it?
It might be.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on March 10, 2012, 05:44:26 AM
Polling map as of July 28th, 2008.
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O_o

Note: the shades are meant to represent "edge/ahead/solid/Ti_c" and not actual percentages.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Pingvin on March 10, 2012, 07:53:36 AM
Polling map as of July 28th, 2008.
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O_o

Note: the shades are meant to represent "edge/ahead/solid/Ti_c" and not actual percentages.
Let me guess... Susan Collins vs Janet Napolitano?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on March 10, 2012, 08:11:24 AM
Polling map as of July 28th, 2008.
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O_o

Note: the shades are meant to represent "edge/ahead/solid/Ti_c" and not actual percentages.
Let me guess... Susan Collins vs Janet Napolitano?
It's actually the 2008 Regional Primaries scenario -- I removed Obama/Clinton/Edwards/McCain/Romney/Huckabee at the start, so the nominees turned out to be Gore/Feingold vs. Giuliani/Romney.
I'm spacing through as Peroutka.

Polling map as of September 15th, 2008.
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Note: I'm just cherry-picking the ridiculous maps.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SUSAN CRUSHBONE on March 10, 2012, 10:46:08 AM
Polling map as of July 28th, 2008.
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O_o

Note: the shades are meant to represent "edge/ahead/solid/Ti_c" and not actual percentages.
Let me guess... Susan Collins vs Janet Napolitano?
It's actually the 2008 Regional Primaries scenario -- I removed Obama/Clinton/Edwards/McCain/Romney/Huckabee at the start, so the nominees turned out to be Gore/Feingold vs. Giuliani/Romney.
I'm spacing through as Peroutka.

Polling map as of September 15th, 2008.
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Note: I'm just cherry-picking the ridiculous maps.

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Gore 50.2% PV / 393 EV
Giuliani 44.2% PV / 145 EV
Badnarik 3.7% PV / 0 EV
Peroutka 1.9% PV / 0 EV

Closest Margins:
1. South Dakota  46.9/47.1/4.4/1.6
2. Missouri           49.2/48.8/1.3/0.7
3. Arizona            48.5/45.8/5.8/--
4. Tennessee      47.6/44.6/3.9/3.9
5. (Tie) Kentucky  45.1/48.4/5.0/1.5
5. (Tie) Montana   47.9/44.6/6.6/0.9

Best Margins (D):
1. District of Columbia  86.2/12.5
2. Wisconsin                 62.6/31.0
3. Hawai'i                     59.9/36.1
4. Pennsylvania            57.7/35.8
5. Vermont                   55.7/37.7

Best Margins (R):
1. Nebraska    36.1/61.1
2. Utah            37.2/60.0
3. Alabama      34.7/57.3
4. Mississippi   37.9/57.6
5. Georgia       38.4/57.7

Best Percentage (L):
1. Oklahoma 12.1
2. Texas 10.3
3. Virginia 9.2
4. North Dakota 8.9
5. Massachusetts 7.7

Best Percentage (C):
1. Maryland 4.7
2. Alabama 4.4
3. Tennessee 3.9
4. Wisconsin 3.8
5. (Tie) Washington/Ohio 3.1



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 11, 2012, 06:53:50 PM
Who said one vote never made a difference?

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Bacon King on March 12, 2012, 12:13:01 AM
That'd be even better if the final margin was less than 6 EVs.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on March 12, 2012, 12:29:31 AM
That'd be even better if the final margin was less than 6 EVs.

In the 1968 scenario, I won the election by winning Wisconsin by 11 votes as RFK. Good times.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on March 16, 2012, 03:00:04 PM
1992

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Beat Brown and Tsongas easily in the primary. Won most of the Northern states while Clinton won most of the Southern ones. Eventually won the nomination. As for the GE, Bush was winning up until the last week or so when I hit him with a big scandal and ran a massive ad campaign. Cool to win with under 40% of the PV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on March 23, 2012, 02:54:27 PM
It is friggan impossible to win as Feingold, it took several tries just to get him through the primaries. After I finally won the nomination with him, this happened. >:(

Romney/Jindal vs Feingold/Warner

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on March 23, 2012, 06:19:52 PM
lol at him losing wisconsin


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 23, 2012, 06:48:54 PM
It is friggan impossible to win as Feingold, it took several tries just to get him through the primaries. After I finally won the nomination with him, this happened. >:(

Romney/Jindal vs Feingold/Warner

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What year was this?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on March 23, 2012, 07:00:23 PM
2008 wonk edition


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 23, 2012, 07:25:16 PM
Thanks :) Im trying to find a mod for 2008 similar to the February 2007 start with more candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on March 23, 2012, 08:25:13 PM

Is it the copy with the events in it like Jefferson-Jackson and the Obama "clings to guns" thing?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on March 24, 2012, 01:24:44 AM

Is it the copy with the events in it like Jefferson-Jackson and the Obama "clings to guns" thing?
I don't recall, its the one that came with it as the better 08 version.

I've won as Pat fricken Buchanan before (primaried Bush), I've played as Badnarick  in 04 and have made it a legit 3 way, I've even made Jim Traficant go as far as 2nd place in the 88 Dem Primary, but Feingold I just can't seem to win it :( .


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 24, 2012, 10:40:03 AM

Is it the copy with the events in it like Jefferson-Jackson and the Obama "clings to guns" thing?
I don't recall, its the one that came with it as the better 08 version.

I've won as Pat fricken Buchanan before (primaried Bush), I've played as Badnarick  in 04 and have made it a legit 3 way, I've even made Jim Traficant go as far as 2nd place in the 88 Dem Primary, but Feingold I just can't seem to win it :( .
I have made Trafficant as the Democratic nominee, brought up Lane Kirkland to 2nd, had Cindy Sheehan get 5% in the general election, but, like reality, Ron Paul or Sam Browback cant win.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on March 24, 2012, 03:24:35 PM
2008 Wonk-Edition:

I ran as Mitt Romney. Due to his cash advantage, I spent money early and developed a sizable national lead by December. I then concentrated hard on Iowa and New Hampshire, winning both. Won big in Michigan in Nevada, then lost by 3 points to Huckabee in South Carolina, which was a relief, as if I had lost to Giuliani things could have become interesting.

Won Florida handily, and swept Super Tuesday. It was soon down to Romney, Giuliani, and Huckabee, with both dropping out right after the March 4th primaries. I went into the General Election with around a 7 point lead, and held it. Clinton gained momentum after picking up endorsements and the economic collapse, but I countered her momentum with loads of cash, which kept my lead enact. Went into Election Day leading by around 7 points.

Clinton selected Richardson as her running mate, and I selected Jindal, so it was a truly historic election: Woman/Hispanic vs. Mormon/Indian.

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Mitt Romney/Bobby Jindal: 55.3% Popular Vote, 377 Electoral Votes
Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson: 44.7% Popular Vote, 161 Electoral Votes

Biggest surprise: Maryland. I contested it earlier, but as the General Election began, Clinton built up a solid lead. I actually pulled out of the state, but started airing ad's mid-October as polls tightened there. Only made one stop there in October.

Biggest win: Utah (SHOCKER!) 76.8% of the vote.
Biggest loss: D.C. (SHOCKER!) 27% of the vote.

Contested California heavily at the end, but only came up with 48.6% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: I'm JewCon in name only. on April 02, 2012, 03:38:00 AM
I accidently used 2012 calculator, but oh well:


2008 Election:

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McCain/Palin: 233 EVs with 34.0% of the popular vote
Barr/ Ruwart: 159 EVs with 33.1% of the popular vote
Obama/Biden: 146 EVs with 32.9% of the popular vote


I played as Bob Barr.

For some reason it told me mccain won in the house. wasnt the house democrat at the time of 2008?


Anyways...

Upset results:

Ohio: Barr: 34%
         Obama: 34%
         McCain: 32%

McCain led by 0.6%

Texas: McCain: 37%
           Barr: 34%
           Obama: 29%

Barr led by 2%

Virginia: Barr: 36%
              McCain: 35%
              Obama: 29%

McCain led by 1% on election day. ( McCain led ALL Campaign, literally but by October 30th his 14% lead slipped into only a 3-4% lead.)


Most of the battlegrounds were in the south...

Most states were VERY, VERY Close. Insane election lol



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 09, 2012, 05:38:44 PM
2008
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Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Haley Barbour (R-MS)-355 EV, 50.9% of the popular vote.
Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Jack Reed (D-RI)-183 EV, 43.0% of the popular vote.
Mr. Steve Kubby (L-CA)/Mr. Daniel Williams (L-FL)-5.1% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Mr. Matt Gonzalez (I-CA)-0.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Brian Rohrbough (C-CO)-0.2% of the popular vote.
Former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney (G-GA)/Mr. Howie Hawkins (G-NY)-0.2% of the popular vote.
I was Kubby.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on April 13, 2012, 11:10:46 PM
2012: My Version

I have the game set up to where it's pretty difficult to beat Obama. I played as Romney, and spent about half of my energy fighting in the primary with the other half focusing on the General. Wins in IA and NH sealed it, and it was finished (I weighted momentum on both high, similar to RL).

Went into the GE ahead 2 points, and kept expanding - did very well with my finances.

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Romney/Rubio - 57.1% PV, 495 EV
Obama/Biden - 41%, 43 EV
Johnson/??? - 2% (Got 18% in NM)

Illinois was very close, Obama winning 49.2-48.8 ). There were a lot of really close states, with most swinging Romney's way.

Hopefully the RL map will be something similar! :P

P.S. I think if Romney does win in a landslide, it will look like this, state-wise.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on April 15, 2012, 08:23:27 AM
Obama/Romney 2012

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This was actually pretty close up until the last 3-4 weeks. I then turned on Romney's integrity and he fell through the floor.

Obama/Biden: 374EV - 53.5%
Romney/Haley: 164EV - 45.5%
Others: 0EV - 1%

Romney's strongest state: UT 72-27%
Obama's strongest state (DC excluded): DE 65-34%

Closest 3 states
IN: 49.3 - 49.0% (R)
MT: 50.2 - 48.8% (R)
GA: 50.8 - 48.2% (D)

3 most unexpected...
TX: 52.4 - 46.4% (R)
SC: 52 - 47% (R)
PA: 61.6 - 37.3% (D)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on April 15, 2012, 07:44:16 PM
Obama/Christie 2012

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I replaced Romney with Christie in the primaries and spacebarred with Root. Cain won Iowa/SC/Fl and Christie won NH, followed by an odd Perry upset in Nevada. It seemed that Cain would walk away with the momentum, but lost everything except Minnesota in February. Gingrich won Washington. On super Tuesday, Cain carried ID, ND, Georgia, and Tennessee, with Perry carrying Texas and Christie everything else. Then Perry surged, and won everything except Hawaii which he lost to Gingrich and Alabama which went to Christie. He swept April 22 and came within 50 delegates of winning when the Oregon primary came around, but lost it and everything else to Christie thereafter.

Christie led the entire election, although Obama closed the gaps with the debates. Pundits declared this the election that killed the electoral college and made heads roll. Nobody knows why Hawaii and West Virginia broke ranks the way they did...

Obama/Biden: 312 EVs - 47.9%
Christie/West: 226 EVs - 49.6%
Others: 0EV -2.5%

Interesting states:

Hawaii: 54.1% (R) - 43.8% (D)
West Virginia: 52.5% (D) - 45.3% (R)
Connecticut: 50.2% (D) - 47.4% (R)

Closest state: Minnesota 49.5% (D) - 47.8% (R)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sec. of State Superique on April 20, 2012, 10:13:20 PM
Obama/Christie 2012

I replaced Romney with Christie in the primaries and spacebarred with Root. Cain won Iowa/SC/Fl and Christie won NH, followed by an odd Perry upset in Nevada. It seemed that Cain would walk away with the momentum, but lost everything except Minnesota in February. Gingrich won Washington. On super Tuesday, Cain carried ID, ND, Georgia, and Tennessee, with Perry carrying Texas and Christie everything else. Then Perry surged, and won everything except Hawaii which he lost to Gingrich and Alabama which went to Christie. He swept April 22 and came within 50 delegates of winning when the Oregon primary came around, but lost it and everything else to Christie thereafter.

Christie led the entire election, although Obama closed the gaps with the debates. Pundits declared this the election that killed the electoral college and made heads roll. Nobody knows why Hawaii and West Virginia broke ranks the way they did...

Obama/Biden: 312 EVs - 47.9%
Christie/West: 226 EVs - 49.6%
Others: 0EV -2.5%

Interesting states:

Hawaii: 54.1% (R) - 43.8% (D)
West Virginia: 52.5% (D) - 45.3% (R)
Connecticut: 50.2% (D) - 47.4% (R)

Closest state: Minnesota 49.5% (D) - 47.8% (R)

If you play the Political Machine, winning West Virginia is not so difficult with a Democrat.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on April 30, 2012, 12:16:55 AM
1940: Willkie/McNary vs Roosevelt/Wallace

I Played as Willkie, one of the nastiest campaigns I've ever ran in the game.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 24, 2012, 12:51:00 PM
I narrowly lost the 1976 DNC as Ellen McCormack to Mo Udall. With Carter turned off, the South shifts towards Wallace, who endorsed me right before the DNC. I won NY, Minnesota, Alaska, Indiana, South Carolina, Mississipi, and Washington. I won large chunks of delegates from just about every state.

I had planned on running McCormack with someone like Wallace, or Byrd against Ford and McCarthy. Ironically enough, I added McCormack as a McCarthy veep a few months earlier, and while I continued as Udall for a few turns, I noticed McCormack did run as McCarthys veep.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on May 27, 2012, 08:35:28 PM
It FINALLY happened!!!

I beat Reagan in 1980!!!

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Kennedy/Bentsen - 324EV - 45.3%
Reagan/Bush - 214EV - 43.3%
Andersen/Lucey - 0EV - 11.4%

...closest states were NJ (R) by 0.4%, NY (R) 0.3%, CT (D) 0.9%, VA (R) 1.2% and MO (D) 1.3%
... I won CA by 6.5% :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on May 28, 2012, 01:10:32 PM
It FINALLY happened!!!

I beat Reagan in 1980!!!

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Kennedy/Bentsen - 324EV - 45.3%
Reagan/Bush - 214EV - 43.3%
Andersen/Lucey - 0EV - 11.4%

...closest states were NJ (R) by 0.4%, NY (R) 0.3%, CT (D) 0.9%, VA (R) 1.2% and MO (D) 1.3%
... I won CA by 6.5% :D

nice did you beat carter in the primaries or did u turn him off/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on June 02, 2012, 09:56:25 AM
I need to get this game again.  Well either this one or Congress Forever 2010.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 02, 2012, 05:18:49 PM
President Forever, 1940 Scenario
Democratic Primaries
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Before Convention
Ambassador Joseph Kennedy of Massachusetts-241 Delegates
Secretary of State Cordell Hull of Tennessee-212 Delegates
Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes of Illinois-166 Delegates
Solicitor General Robert Jackson of New York-125 Delegates
Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace of Iowa-119 Delegates
Vice President John Garner of Texas-117 Delegates
Postmaster General James Farley of New York-101 Delegates

Soon after the primaries ended, Jackson endorsed Hull.
Secretary of State Cordell Hull of Tennessee-337 Delegates (+125)
Ambassador Joseph Kennedy of Massachusetts-241 Delegates
Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes of Illinois-166 Delegates
Solicitor General Robert Jackson of New York-125 Delegates (-125)
Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace of Iowa-119 Delegates
Vice President John Garner of Texas-117 Delegates
Postmaster General James Farley of New York-101 Delegates

And woop-woop-di-do, right before the most exciting convention I have ever played, BAM, game crashes, and the save is corrupted.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on June 02, 2012, 10:52:06 PM
President Forever, 1940 Scenario
Democratic Primaries
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Before Convention
Ambassador Joseph Kennedy of Massachusetts-241 Delegates
Secretary of State Cordell Hull of Tennessee-212 Delegates
Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes of Illinois-166 Delegates
Solicitor General Robert Jackson of New York-125 Delegates
Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace of Iowa-119 Delegates
Vice President John Garner of Texas-117 Delegates
Postmaster General James Farley of New York-101 Delegates

Soon after the primaries ended, Jackson endorsed Hull.
Secretary of State Cordell Hull of Tennessee-337 Delegates (+125)
Ambassador Joseph Kennedy of Massachusetts-241 Delegates
Secretary of the Interior Harold Ickes of Illinois-166 Delegates
Solicitor General Robert Jackson of New York-125 Delegates (-125)
Secretary of Agriculture Henry Wallace of Iowa-119 Delegates
Vice President John Garner of Texas-117 Delegates
Postmaster General James Farley of New York-101 Delegates

And woop-woop-di-do, right before the most exciting convention I have ever played, BAM, game crashes, and the save is corrupted.

Same thing happened to me playing as Millard Tydings


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on June 03, 2012, 06:06:43 PM
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For 2016

Clinton/O'Malley-276
Thune/Christie-262


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on June 03, 2012, 08:49:14 PM
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Houston: 139
Chase: 82
Breckinridge: 47
Douglas: 35

Chase was elected by the House


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on June 04, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
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For 2016

Clinton/O'Malley-276
Thune/Christie-262
how close was the PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on June 04, 2012, 01:14:13 PM
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Houston: 139
Chase: 82
Breckinridge: 47
Douglas: 35

Chase was elected by the House

Go Bearkats! :D

:P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on June 04, 2012, 11:50:09 PM

Thune actually won it by 2%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on June 05, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
ah Interesting when ever i play california always seems to be close like 10 to 15 points


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: netzero19 on June 11, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
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Obama vs Santorum. I could see the results of this ending badly..


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on June 13, 2012, 08:00:57 AM
Sometimes, this game boggles the mind.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on June 13, 2012, 10:33:17 AM
yup onetime i was playing the modded 1984 race i was walter mondale and i was winning by a landslide attacking jesse helms, and out of nowhere Jesse Helms won Hawaii by 9 points


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY on June 14, 2012, 08:37:49 AM
yup onetime i was playing the modded 1984 race i was walter mondale and i was winning by a landslide attacking jesse helms, and out of nowhere Jesse Helms won Hawaii by 9 points

I was Clinton in '08 once and I had huge leads in all of the early states, but then suddenly Biden won IA, NV, and SC.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 14, 2012, 08:05:11 PM
yup onetime i was playing the modded 1984 race i was walter mondale and i was winning by a landslide attacking jesse helms, and out of nowhere Jesse Helms won Hawaii by 9 points
I can't seem to find the 1984 mod with Helms. Do you know where I can get it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Smid on June 14, 2012, 09:51:05 PM
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Obama vs Santorum. I could see the results of this ending badly..

Wow! Four votes the difference, in a state that would change the winner! That's a recipe for disaster!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on June 16, 2012, 10:00:26 AM
yup onetime i was playing the modded 1984 race i was walter mondale and i was winning by a landslide attacking jesse helms, and out of nowhere Jesse Helms won Hawaii by 9 points
I can't seem to find the 1984 mod with Helms. Do you know where I can get it?
hmm i could send u my copy but ill need help cause i don't know how to do that but sure u need to eliminate several files but if i send u mine ul'l be ok


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on June 16, 2012, 11:28:39 AM
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Carter/Kennedy v Bush/Anderson
EV: 464 - 74
PV: 55.6 - 44.4

I was Kennedy in the primaries. Won Iowa and New Hampshire but lost Massachusetts and all went downhill from there. I lost by about 400 delegates. General was easy. Tightened in the middle and Bush came within 47/48 of Carter but my lead was never lost. Pulled ahead on election night to win a landslide.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on June 20, 2012, 01:59:09 AM
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Romney win 50-45 2012

This was a reminder, Appalachia hates Obama :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 21, 2012, 01:47:44 PM
I turned Romney off and Christie on in the 2012 scenario (the one with Roemer, Palin, and Johnson) and played Huntsman. Cain won Iowa, Christie won NH (I placed second), Cain won SC, Christie won Florida and so forth. It was a Cain-Christie race up until the Mississipi primary. Then Gingrich surged, and Perry endorsed me. It became a three way race up until Newt suddenly dropped out and endorsed Cain. Then, the next turn, Christie dropped out and endorsed me. I won NY, PA, CT, and RI on momentum. I now lead Cain 818-725. More to come....


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: netzero19 on June 22, 2012, 07:52:54 PM
I don't get this game sometimes.

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I played as Baldwin. I spacedbarred through the Republican and Democratic primaries.

2008 Wonk.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on June 23, 2012, 05:37:17 PM
wow interesting


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Spamage on June 23, 2012, 08:40:38 PM
Played as Bill Richardson in the 2008 Wonk Scenario and came to the Democratic Convention with a three way tie between me obama and clinton. Clinton was eliminated and I won and choce McCaskill as my VP. Romney won the Republican nomination. As soon as I won the convention my total crashed down and I only lead in Massachuesets, Vermont, and California. However, a week into the GE I got a High Scandal on Romney and got one more later. I campaigned in larger state but noticed I for some confusing reason was getting high momentum in Montana and Wyoming. I managed to lose the EV but win the PV in a reallignment of the electoral college.
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Romney/Brownback 49.3%
Richardson/McCaskill 51.7%


Strangest results I have ever recieved.........


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on July 01, 2012, 06:47:09 AM
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Obama/Schweitzer v Giuliani/Crist
325 - 213
55.3% - 44.7%

2008 Wonk
Utah: 50.6 - 49.4
Colorado: 49.8 - 50.2


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 01, 2012, 02:07:10 PM
One of the closest i've ever played! 1988
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It all came down to California in the end, but Bush won Illinois by 16 votes!

Gore beat Jackson at a brokered convention once Dukakis had withdrawn.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 02, 2012, 03:27:11 AM
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Obama/Biden - 373EV 53.8%
Romney/Ayotte - 165EV 45.3%

It was actually a close race up until the last 3 weeks... but I started saturation advertising and started to kill Romney is all the swing states, enough to open up an offensive front by going after MO, IN, GA, MT, AZ, SC and TX.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: morgieb on July 02, 2012, 08:17:22 AM
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Playing as Gore. Wilson was a fake character. I was behind in most states, but strong campaigners managed to get several key swing states, which included most of the big ones.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: morgieb on July 02, 2012, 09:21:39 PM
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Cuomo v. Bush v. Perot. A messy primary fight saw me forced to fight back, but I still won. Performed as expected apart from a weird performance in the Upper Mid-West, poor in Upper New England and poor in the West.

PV totals:

Cuomo - 296 EV; 37.3% of the vote (41,101,413 votes)
Bush - 238 EV; 38.4% of the vote (42,272,971 votes)
Perot - 4 EV; 24.3% of the vote (26,722,480 votes)

Cuomo States

DC - 44.0%
New York - 9.7%
Arkansas - 9.6%
California - 8.9%
Illinois - 8.7%
Massachusetts - 6.8% (v Perot)
Pennsylvania - 6.5%
Hawaii - 6.0%
Rhode Island - 5.1 (v Perot)
Missouri - 4.8%
New Jersey - 4.8%
West Virginia - 4.5%
Michigan - 3.8%
Washington - 3.6%
Maryland - 3.5%
Kentucky - 2.6%
Ohio - 2.0%
Delaware - 1.8%
Connecticut - 1.7%
Florida - 0.3%

Bush States

Mississippi - 27.0%
South Carolina - 24.1%
Indiana - 16.5%
Louisiana - 16.4%
Virginia - 15.8%
Iowa - 14.9%
Arizona - 14.8% (v Perot)
Alabama - 14.5%
Wisconsin - 13.9%
Oklahoma - 12.1% (v Perot)
Nebraska - 11.5% (v Perot)
Colorado - 9.8% (v Perot)
New Hampshire - 9.2% (v Perot)
North Dakota - 7.8% (v Perot)
Wyoming - 6.5% (v Perot)
South Dakota - 6.4%
Texas - 6.4%
Utah - 5.6% (v Perot)
Georgia - 4.5%
Vermont - 4.2%
Oregon - 4.0% (v Perot)
Minnesota - 3.5% (v Perot)
Nevada - 2.4% (v Perot)
Kansas - 2.0% (v Perot)
North Carolina - 1.7%
Alaska - 1.0% (v Perot)
Idaho - 0.8% (v Perot)
Montana - 0.5% (v Perot)
New Mexico - 0.3%
Tennessee - 0.1%

Perot States

Maine - 7.1% (Cuomo came second)

Best States

Cuomo - D.C. (65.6%) [Arkansas (47.3%)]
Bush - Mississippi (55.6%)
Perot - Maine (38.8%)

Worst States

Cuomo - Utah (19.2%)
Bush - D.C. (21.6%)  [Maine (29.4%)]
Perot - D.C. (12.8%) [Alabama (14.7%)]


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: morgieb on July 04, 2012, 07:57:45 AM
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Was Humphrey. Won, obviously. EV numbers:

Humphrey - 274 EV
Nixon - 219 EV
Wallace - 45 EV

Can't remember the PV numbers, but Humphrey won by about 1%.

Nixon's best state was New Hampshire, Humphrey's was Rhode Island (technically it was DC but that isn't a state), Wallace's was Alabama (worth noting he performed better in Alabama than I did in DC).

Humphrey      
      
Washington D.C.   33.8%   
Rhode Island   24.4%   
Minnesota   20.8%   
Massachusetts   18.2%   
Hawaii   12.7%   
West Virginia   9.2%   
New York   8.9%   
Connecticut   7.5%   
New Jersey   6.8%   
California   6.5%   
Illinois   5.9%   
Maine   4.2%   
Washington   3.4%   
Alaska   3.4%   
Pennsylvania   3.1%   
Michigan   2.5%   
Florida   1.9%   
Wisconsin   0.9%   
Colorado   0.6%   
      
Nixon      
      
New Mexico   17.7%   
Wyoming   17.6%   
New Hampshire   16.9%   
Nebraska   16.5%   
Virginia   16.4%   
Utah   16.2%   
Oklahoma   14.0%   
North Carolina   13.2%   (v Wallace)
North Dakota   12.0%   
Kansas   10.8%   
Kentucky   10.3%   
Indiana   10.0%   
Idaho   10.0%   
Oregon   9.4%   
Missouri   8.6%   
Arizona   8.4%   
Tennessee   6.8%   (v Wallace)
South Dakota   6.0%   
South Carolina   5.8%   (v Wallace)
Delaware   4.7%   
Vermont   4.4%   
Iowa   3.9%   
Texas   2.5%   
Montana   2.2%   
Maryland   1.3%   
Nevada   1.3%   
Ohio   0.1%   
      
Wallace      
      
Alabama   47.1%   (v Humphrey)
Mississippi   44.2%   (v Humphrey)
Louisiana   21.0%   (v Humphrey)
Georgia   13.7%   (v Nixon)
Arkansas   5.5%   (v Nixon)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on July 04, 2012, 02:17:30 PM
Anyone have the 1992 scenario? Message me for my email


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: morgieb on July 04, 2012, 07:17:30 PM
Anyone have the 1992 scenario? Message me for my email

Doesn't it come automatically with the game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on July 04, 2012, 08:55:26 PM
I once won as Bachmann. That was a fun one... didn't shift on any issues, either. Three really tight primary wins in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina gave me very little boost, so I had to resort to odd states here and there. It was a five man race between Cain, Gingrich, Romney, Perry, and me until the non-Romneys dropped out. Except the support would always unanimously break for someone else. It was very fun.

The general was easy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on July 05, 2012, 06:15:33 AM
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1968...

Kennedy/Muskie - 276EV - 43.2%
Nixon/Romney - 216EV - 42.1%
Wallace/Whogivesatoss - 45EV - 14.8%

I started out after a very ugly primary race against Humphrey, despite dominating him. Once the general started I only led in WV, MA, IL and PA... I never led the polls nor the electoral count... but I started getting more positive coverage and used the last week to to run two national positive ads, and it seems the undecideds broke heavily for me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on July 05, 2012, 04:41:05 PM
Which 1968 scenario do you have?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 10, 2012, 06:12:17 PM
A Giant Sucking Sound-Alternate 1996
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General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates
Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)-531 Delegates
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates

Lets see how this convention plays out...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 10, 2012, 06:24:44 PM
A Giant Sucking Sound-Alternate 1996
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General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates
Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)-531 Delegates
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates

Lets see how this convention plays out...

1st ballot.
General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates (+264)
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates (+211)
Governor Carroll Campbell (R-SC)-531 Delegates
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates
Governor Campbell drops out, after losing his upper tier status in the final days.

2nd ballot.
General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates (+264) (+83)
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates (+211) (+56)
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates
Senator Phil Gramm (R-TX)-191 Delegates

3rd ballot.
General Norman Schwarzkoph (R-NJ)-599 Delegates (+264) (+83) (+145)
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)-573 Delegates (+211) (+56) (+158)
Former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander (R-TE)-342 Delegates

Schwarzkoph wins 998 to 938.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HappyWarrior on July 25, 2012, 04:09:36 PM
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1980 election
Carter/Brown-407
Ford/Bush-131


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 29, 2012, 08:09:45 PM
This was a good one. I turned Cuomo, Kennedy, and Bentsen on for the Democratic nomination. I played DuPont in the 1988 primaries. I was able to win the RNC when Robertson endorsed me. I was unprepared for Bentsen, however. I was expecting the Kennedy delegates at the RNC to break for Jackson. They did not. So all my anti Jackson ads and scandals became useless. Great game :)


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Senator Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Governor Michael Dukakis (D-MA)-294 EV, 45.8% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Pete DuPont (R-DE)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY)-244 EV, 44.9% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX)/Mr. Russell Means (L-CA)-4.7% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Leonora Fulani (NA-DC)/Mr. Fred Newman (NA-NY)-4.6% of the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on July 30, 2012, 04:41:00 PM
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Cuomo/Clinton - 313 EV - 39.2% PV
Bush/Quayle - 217 EV - 36.8% PV
Perot/Stockdale - 8 EV - 24% PV

Played Cuomo in the primaries. Won most of the early states save Iowa, but Clinton made it a battle to June 2 for delegates with narrow victories in Southern states. I secured the nomination on June 2 by about ~20 delegates, with 100 to Tsongas and Brown each, and Clinton had the rest. Brown endorsed me and I made Clinton my running mate.

Closest States:
Nevada: 33.8 - 33.6
Colorado: 36.4 - 36.2


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 14, 2012, 06:56:47 PM
1976
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President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Robert Dole (R-KS)-362 EV, 48.7% of the population.  
Former Governor James Carter (D-GA)/Senator Jennings Randolph (D-WV)-177 EV, 46.2% of the popular vote.  
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Various-5.0% of the popular vote.

Ford Best States
Alaska: 61.4%
Wyoming: 60.1%
Kansas: 59.8%
Indiana: 59.4%
Wisconsin: 57.7%

Carter Best States
Arkansas: 61.9%
Washington DC: 59.6%
Minnesota: 57.8%
Louisiana: 56.1%
Hawaii: 53.7%

McCarthy Best States
Oregon: 26.7%
Utah: 17.2%
Alabama: 16.5%
Maine: 16.0%
Montana: 15.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on September 13, 2012, 09:38:14 AM
I played as Hoover making a comeback in 1940. TN was decided by 11 votes

Hoover/Dewey - 56.2%
Kennedy/McNutt - 43%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on September 13, 2012, 07:54:44 PM
Anybody got an update. I have version 1.00.5


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 06, 2012, 11:32:19 PM
2016

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O'Malley/Warner 347 - 191  Bush/McDonnell
52.3% (64,043,186) - (58,429,359) 47.7%

Closest states (by percentage):

New Hampshire 0.0% (265 votes)
Wisconsin 1.0% (26,633 votes)
Missouri 1.4% (35,538 votes)

Best D states:

D.C. 93.4%
Hawaii 65.3%
Massachusetts 65.1%

Best R states:

Utah 73.8%
Wyoming 69.9%
Idaho 68.0%

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94 points, 'Phenomenal'.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 07, 2012, 08:48:05 PM
2012

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Obama/Biden 167 - 371 Huntsman/Ryan
47.2% (54,767,544) - (61,168,929) 52.8%

Closest states (by percentage):

Washington 2.6% (62,051 votes)
Maine 3.2% (17,352 votes)
Minnesota 3.8% (73,608 votes)

Best D states:

D.C. 92.8%
Hawaii 63.2%
Massachusetts 61.9%

Best R states:

Utah 75.2%
Wyoming 73.7%
Idaho 73.1%

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97 points, 'Phenomenal'.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 08, 2012, 02:36:28 AM
2016

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Cuomo/Warren 170 - 368 McDonnell/Thune
46.0% (54,220,549) - (63,553,656) 54.0%

Closest states:

Delaware 0.8% (2,053 votes)
Oregon 0.8% (11,148 votes)
Rhode Island 3.2% (12,683 votes)
New Jersey 3.2% (105,062 votes)
Pennsylvania 3.6% (186,572 votes)

Best D states:

DC 91.4%
Hawaii 63.8%
Maryland 59.4%

Best R states:

Utah 76.0%
Wyoming 74.1%
Idaho 71.8%

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96 points


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 09, 2012, 07:54:45 PM
Gerald Ford: 1976
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President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Robert Dole (R-KS)-527 EV, 59.5% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV)-12 EV, 37.2% of the popular vote.
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Multiple Runningmates-3.2% of the popular vote.

I was lucky to get a good deal of momentum in the primaries, as well as getting (for a hefty price) Mo Udalls endorsement. Reagan was never a real threat, though he did come 0.1% away from winning New Hampshire. I used ads to blast Carter on all sorts of issues, and had a powerful level 9 scandal in the last week come out on him. I lost the first two debates, and tied on the final one. Dole beat Byrd in a very close, unremarkable debate. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 10, 2012, 08:46:28 PM
Gerald Ford: 1980
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President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Ambassador George Bush (R-TX)-523 EV, 60.7% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Congresswoman Barbara Jordan (D-TX)-15 EV, 39.3% of the popular vote.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Platypus on October 12, 2012, 08:36:17 AM
I'm currently nearly able to win the GOP 2016 nomination as Thune., but Christie is proving difficult to budge.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hoverbored123 on October 14, 2012, 01:47:01 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 16, 2012, 03:28:04 PM
Gerald Ford: 1984
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President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Vice President George Bush (R-TX)-535 EV, 65.3% of the popular vote.
Senator Walter Mondale (R-MN)/Former Senator George McGovern (D-SD)-3 EV, 34.7% of the popular vote.

And so ends the Ford trilogy. His three terms were marked by landslide victories. Now off to Bush in 1988 ;) I plan on playing up until 2012.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hoverbored123 on October 17, 2012, 12:23:00 PM
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2012- Obama 376, Romney 162


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on October 31, 2012, 01:46:29 PM
Played the "A giant sucking sound-1996" scenario where Perot had won in 1992 and is the incumbent in the race. I played as Schwartzkopf.

Schwartzkopf/Campbell: PV - 42.5%; EV - 483
Richards/Wilder: PV - 29.2%; EV - 30
Perot/Stockdale: PV - 28.3; EV - 25

The race was a three way tie up until the conventions then I just destroyed them the rest of the campaign >:D

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on November 10, 2012, 01:02:35 AM
2012 Scenario

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Fmr. Congressman Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)-- 287 electoral votes; 66,442,032 votes (51.7% of NPV)
[/b]President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)--251 electoral votes; 62,106,980 votes (48.3% of NPV)

Good campaign.  Was consistently down in VA, NC, CO, and NV until the last few weeks.  Walker and Martinez were two of my biggest surrogates, which proved to be crucial!  Despite the closeness of the election, I never fell behind in the EV count on Election Night.

The closest state was New Mexico, which Gingrich won by only 3,746 votes.  Virginia was a nail-bitter too, with only a 13,000 vote victory for Gingrich.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Simpsons Cinematic Universe on November 10, 2012, 06:44:31 PM
How much does this cost, if anything? No torrents for it seem to exist.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on November 11, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
United States presidential election, 2012

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Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX)/Gov. Bob McDonnell (R-VA)--269 Electoral Votes; 49.3% of NPV (64,772,000 exactly)
Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice Pres. Joe Biden (D-DE)--269 Electoral Votes; 48.9% of NPV (64,342,230)
Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Jim Gray (L-CA)--0 Electoral Votes; 1.8% of NPV (2,336,284)

Election gets thrown to the House of Representatives where Perry wins.  

Closest states:
   New Hampshire (Perry by 554 votes, less than 0.1%)
   Pennsylvania (Obama by 56,584, 1.0%)
   Wisconsin (Perry by 28,895, 1.2%)
  

Most Obama-voting States:
   Washington, D.C. (91.9%)
   Hawaii (64.4%)
   Massachusetts (61.6%)

Most Perry-voting States:
   Utah (71.5%)
   Idaho (71.2%)
   Wyoming (69.4%)

I played as Obama, and this was a very interesting game.  I think I wasting too much time early-on trying to build infastructure in states like IN, GA, MT, AZ, and MO, while I neglected much of the Rust Belt (IA, WI, MI, OH) and VA.  I was leading, but a Power 9 scandal came out on me the the Friday before Election Day.  

Still, only 554 votes in New Hampshire!!  Talk about a nightmare!
 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on November 12, 2012, 02:30:31 AM
How much does this cost, if anything? No torrents for it seem to exist.
$20


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: You kip if you want to... on November 17, 2012, 04:43:36 PM
I'm currently nearly able to win the GOP 2016 nomination as Thune., but Christie is proving difficult to budge.

As always. ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lumine on November 19, 2012, 07:00:12 PM
2012 Election: (With President Forever 2008)

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Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani/Former Governor Mitt Romney: 49% / 319 EV
President Barack Obama/VicePresident Joe Biden: 44.6% / 219 EV
Former Governor Gary Johnson/Judge Jim Gray: 2.4% / 0 EV
Others: 4% / 0 EV

Quite interesting game; I faced the primaries with Giuliani vs Romney, Huckabee, Palin as the main foes (2008 all over again), and with a strategy of taking New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada I managed to take the momentum. After winning the nomination I focused on winning the west and increasing the margins in upper New England, which explains why I won states like Oregon but not Pennsylvania... Now I'll see how I fare with Tim Pawlenty or Mitch Daniels.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Spamage on November 19, 2012, 11:13:41 PM
My 2016 Scenario

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Sec. of State Condoleezza Rice/ Sen. Marco Rubio 49.3%
Vice President Joe Biden/ Gov. Andrew Cuomo 50.2%
Gov. Gary Johnson/ Judge James Gray .5%

I was Rice, I started in GE mode and the campaign was brutal. Was 269-269 up until the last 2 seconds of Colorado.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 02, 2012, 10:45:14 PM
Ran as Perot in 1996 running for Re-election vs Gephardt/Kerrey vs Campbell/I forget

I won 43-35-21

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 07, 2012, 02:32:27 PM
Same scenario as above but this time it was Nunn(me)/Gephardt vs Wilson/Kemp vs Pres. Perot/McCain.

I won 270-157-111, PV was 40%-30%-30%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 08, 2012, 12:30:13 AM
Has anyone ever had this happened before: I was playing the 2012 Republican primaries as Cain, and we got to Colorado. It was an exact tie between Romney and Cain - 225,338 votes apiece. I've never seen it before.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 10, 2012, 01:20:46 AM
Has anyone ever had this happened before: I was playing the 2012 Republican primaries as Cain, and we got to Colorado. It was an exact tie between Romney and Cain - 225,338 votes apiece. I've never seen it before.
Did Cain "win" it then on the map?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on December 10, 2012, 01:24:07 AM
Has anyone ever had this happened before: I was playing the 2012 Republican primaries as Cain, and we got to Colorado. It was an exact tie between Romney and Cain - 225,338 votes apiece. I've never seen it before.
Did Cain "win" it then on the map?
It was white on the map, but Cain won all delegates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 16, 2012, 05:22:36 PM
2012
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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI)-289 EV, 49.7%-64,194,084 votes.
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)-249 EV, 49.1%-63,500,313 votes.
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Former Judge Jim Gray (L-CA)-0.8%-1,067,079 votes.
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Jim Clymer (C-PA)-0.2%-276,667 votes.
Mrs. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mrs. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)-0.2%-242,753 votes.

I started as Romney in the general. I focused on the swing states, and made my two non Romney leadership themes attacking Obama on the economy, and one praising myself on the issue of the size of government. I focused on Colorado, Ohio (which I won immediately when it was first reporting, 58-42. It later turned out to be 54-46) and New Hampshire. Florida, Virginia, Nevada, Wisconsin, and North Carolina were also heavily targeted. I spent a ton on ads in the last weeks, and despite being hit by power 9 scandals three times midway through the campaign, I was able to eek out a narrow win when Florida and Missouri were called. Wisconsin was the closest state, with a difference of 32,000 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on December 19, 2012, 07:29:21 PM
Just got P4E 2008, here is my first game:

Ran as Al Gore in the 2008 scenario that comes with the game. Started in the primaries with all characters on for both major parties and 3rd parties off. Was leading in Iowa till the last minute when Mark Warner surged there. He won and I came in 2nd. Warner also won NH. Most of the other candidates dropped out soon after, setting up me vs Hillary with Warner a distant 3rd. I won most of the South and West, Hillary took most of the NE and Midwest. The primary dragged on a long time with Hillary leading but nobody getting a majority By the time the primaries were almost done the delegate count was something like this:

Clinton 1400
Gore 1100
Warner 500

I used all my political influence points to get Warner to drop out and endorse me, which gave me a majority. Offered Hillary my VP and she accepted.

Romney had won the GOP primary pretty early and had been running a GE campaign since then. By the time I won the primary things were not looking good for Team D.
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Romney/Pataki 47%
Gore/Clinton 40%

Throughout GE, I focused on running positive ads about homeland security, which I had gotten a couple of issue bonuses on and researched some insights into. I had a bit more momentum than Romney the whole campaign so I closed on him slowly and then narrowly overtook him in the last two weeks. By election day it was still very close and the game had over 100 EVs as tossups but Gore in a narrow lead.

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Final results:
Gore/Clinton 50.4%, 290 EVs
Romney/Pataki 49.6%, 248 EVs

Not bad for a first time (on Hard difficulty, no less) :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 19, 2012, 09:50:11 PM
Just got P4E 2008, here is my first game:

Ran as Al Gore in the 2008 scenario that comes with the game. Started in the primaries with all characters on for both major parties and 3rd parties off. Was leading in Iowa till the last minute when Mark Warner surged there. He won and I came in 2nd. Warner also won NH. Most of the other candidates dropped out soon after, setting up me vs Hillary with Warner a distant 3rd. I won most of the South and West, Hillary took most of the NE and Midwest. The primary dragged on a long time with Hillary leading but nobody getting a majority By the time the primaries were almost done the delegate count was something like this:

Clinton 1400
Gore 1100
Warner 500

I used all my political influence points to get Warner to drop out and endorse me, which gave me a majority. Offered Hillary my VP and she accepted.

Romney had won the GOP primary pretty early and had been running a GE campaign since then. By the time I won the primary things were not looking good for Team D.
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Romney/Pataki 47%
Gore/Clinton 40%

Throughout GE, I focused on running positive ads about homeland security, which I had gotten a couple of issue bonuses on and researched some insights into. I had a bit more momentum than Romney the whole campaign so I closed on him slowly and then narrowly overtook him in the last two weeks. By election day it was still very close and the game had over 100 EVs as tossups but Gore in a narrow lead.

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Final results:
Gore/Clinton 50.4%, 290 EVs
Romney/Pataki 49.6%, 248 EVs

Not bad for a first time (on Hard difficulty, no less) :)
Awesome! I always play on easy, and still lose landslides :P You just inspired me to play as Gore for the first time in 2008, on the other hand...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on December 20, 2012, 05:21:21 AM
1980 Primary

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Kennedy: 1,642 delegates, 48.8% PV
Carter: 1,632 delegates, 51.2% PV

I finally beat Carter. :D

I'm going to run this twice. Once with Carter as VP, the other with Kennedy picking somebody else. PIPs are exhausted so unless Carter drops out of his own accord, it could get dicey. The Republican nominee is Reagan who crushed Bush in a landslide, and Anderson is an Independent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on December 21, 2012, 12:16:06 AM
West Wing scenario 2006:

I played as Sen. Arnie Vinick (R-CA) vs Rep. Matt Santos (D-TX) vs Sen. Seth Gillette (I-ND)

Won 51-48, 369-169

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 21, 2012, 09:23:47 PM
2016
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President Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Vice President Paul Ryan (R-WI)-360 EV, 51.7%-65,994,161 votes.
Former Governor Deval Patrick (D-MA)/Former Secretary Janet Napolitano (D-AZ)-178 EV, 46.2%-59,047,196 votes.
Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)/Mr. R. Lee Wrights (L-NC)-1.5%-1,863,252 votes.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-MT)/Mrs. Susan Ducey (C-KA)-0.6%-796,649 votes.

Rhode Island was decided by 2%. The DNC was interesting. Hillary didn't win a single delegate to Super Tuesday, and soon after, Feingold endorsed Patrick sending him to the top. I thought Manchin delegates (about 1,100 of them) would go to Hillary, but they split nearly 50-50, and gave the nomination to Patrick by a few delegates. Patrick had $30,000,000 in the bank on election day. I had $600,000,000 and a power 9 scandal on Patrick the week before :P.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on December 22, 2012, 06:55:21 PM
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Mitch Daniels/Susana Martinez - 375 EC, 54.3% - 69,402,013
Barack Obama/Joe Biden - 159, 44.7% - 57,096,866

Closer to the end, my lead started to fade, but then I did some nationwide advertising, and a scandal came up, so I managed to pull my lead back and then some. Middle of the way I was campaigning in Rhode Island!

Obama won New Jersey by 2,000 votes, I won Oregon and Nevada by 2%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 23, 2012, 03:47:20 PM
2020
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Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)/Former Governor Sean Parnell (R-AK)-301 EV, 42.7%-63,294,135 votes.
Governor Julian Castro (D-TX)/Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)-237 EV, 42.5%-63,119,006 votes.
Former Mayor Mike Bloomberg (I-NY)/Senator Angus King (I-ME)-14.8%-21,977,692 votes.

I started as Ryan, though I lost the primaries to Rubio after a series of surprise wins on Super Tuesday. Castro led through the race up until the last weeks, and Bloomberg seemed to be irrelevant. However, I pulled off a narrow win due to Bloomberg splitting votes with Castro. I came in third in DC, with 6.6% of the vote to Bloomberg's 13.5%, and came 3 points away from being third in New York. Iowa was the only surprise, and was the closest state. Castro led through the night in Iowa, and only minutes before the election night ended, I won the state by a margin of 3,000 votes, or 0.2%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on December 24, 2012, 02:57:47 PM
Has anyone ever done this before?

I started playing as Carol Moseley Braun in 2004 in the primaries. Won Michigan first and then Illinois, both by focusing my entire campaign on the states for a number of weeks. Was at 3-4% in the national polls but had a good number of delegates because I won both MI and IL by landslide margins (40%ish). The major candidates by the end of the primaries were Dean, Kerry, and Gephardt, with Gephardt in the lead and only a few hundred delegates from winning. I traded all my PIPs to Dean for his VP slot, which after like 15 offers he finally accepted (to get around the "___ must have his party's nomination locked up" message, I started by offering to Bush and then scrolled up, which allowed me to bypass that message-apparently a glitch in the game). Then, since Gephardt was going to win, I used all Dean's PIPs to get Kerry's VP slot, which Kerry accepted on the first offer. Then, going into the GE, I noticed Kerry had a ton of PIPs and surprisingly good relations with Bush. Just to see what would happen, I offered Bush all Kerry's PIPs for Bush's VP slot since the Dem convention happened before the GOP convention. Bush accepted, after which I got a "list index out of bounds" error and the game froze. Here's a screenshot of the final polls, after Kerry became Bush's VP:

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So I started as Carol Moseley Braun and ended as George Bush, or would have if the game didn't crash. Pretty fun. I wish that it had let me continue into the GE as Bush/Kerry vs the thrid party candidates.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on December 24, 2012, 10:16:14 PM
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Pretty impressive if I do say so myself.

I was comfortably ahead in all the swing-states by mid-October, so I spent the last few weeks literally dumping $$$ in California (I think I spent about 11.5 million there)

Oregon was only about 900 votes difference.  I wish I would have gotten it, there's something symbolic that hapens after you cross the 400 EV mark ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: allnjhaugh on December 25, 2012, 02:12:28 AM
1984: (Hard)
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I spent 95% of my resources recruiting footsoldiers; I was tied at 42 and ended up winning 52-43, with ~100 footsoldiers in play. It was the dullest game I've played yet, but hey, 450+ EVs as freakin' Mondale is pretty cool, right?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on December 27, 2012, 02:53:27 AM
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Colin Powell/Rudy Giuliani -- 287 EVs, 54.2%
Howard Dean/Wesley Clark -- 251 EVs, 45.8%

There was a stark possibility I could've won the Electoral vote while losing massively the popular vote, mainly because Powel's margins in the non-swing states were in the 60s or better usually. I put too much focus on the Carolinas, Georgia, and Arkansas, which I lost each by about 1-4 points. I think it was okay considering I started way behind and I lost all three debates, triumphantly (though Clark won the VP debates).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on January 07, 2013, 11:35:15 PM
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Senator Bob Graham of Florida -- 1780 Delegates, 44.6%
Governor Howard Dean of Vermont -- 1087 Delegates, 34.4%
Senator John Edwards of North Carolina -- 586, 21%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on January 10, 2013, 02:16:06 AM
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/Former Governor Brian Schweitzer - 49.4%, 463 EVs
Senator Marco Rubio/Former Governor Jeb Bush - 31.5%, 75 EVs
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Reality TV Host Donald Trump - 19.1%, 0 EVs

Basically, Rubio won the nomination in a gigantic fight with Bobby Jindal, who did not endorse him after winning a huge amount of later states. As Bloomberg, I put footsoliders everywhere and anywhere I could, particularly in states where my percentages were going up (California, Colorado, Rust Belt, and, shockingly enough, Alabama and Mississippi.) I did not win a single state, though I came within five points of Alabama.

Top 5 Best Bloomberg Results:

Alabama:
Rubio/Bush - 40.3%
Bloomberg/Trump - 35.6%
Clinton/Schweitzer - 24.1%

Alaska:
Rubio/Bush - 43.2%
Bloomberg/Trump - 29%
Clinton/Schweitzer - 27.8%

Colorado:
Clinton/Schweitzer - 42.7%
Rubio/Bush - 29.3%
Bloomberg/Trump - 28%

California:
Clinton/Schweitzer - 50%
Bloomberg/Trump - 27.4%
Rubio/Bush - 22.6%

Iowa:
Clinton/Schweitzer - 45.9%
Rubio/Bush - 28.1%
Bloomberg/Trump - 26%

Bottom 5 Worst Bloomberg Performances:

Tennessee - 6.1% Bloomberg
Indiana - 6.5% Bloomberg
Oklahoma - 7.6% Bloomberg
Utah - 9.5% Bloomberg
Vermont - 9.6% Bloomberg

1st Place in 0 States
2nd Place in 4 States
3rd Place in 46 States


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on January 21, 2013, 12:27:39 AM
I'm normally too lazy to post results but this one...I couldn't resist. Imagine the forum reaction if it occurred!

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Michele Bachmann/Jim Demint: 71% PV, 538 Electoral Votes
Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 29% PV, 0 Electoral Votes

Now, granted, this was on Medium, but nothing was altered and there were no cross-party endorsements to mess it up. I built up in Iowa and New Hampshire, and ultimately, Bachmann narrowly edged out Perry for the nomination. I used up my 5 PIP's to get him to drop out. The economy completely collapsed in early September which took a 5 point lead and turned it into a 20 point lead, and smart money management plus debate momentum brought it to this. I have to say, with no little cheats thrown in, this might be my best performance.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Spamage on January 21, 2013, 12:36:36 AM
I'm normally too lazy to post results but this one...I couldn't resist. Imagine the forum reaction if it occurred!

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Do you know your best state?

Michele Bachmann/Jim Demint: 71% PV, 538 Electoral Votes
Barack Obama/Joe Biden: 29% PV, 0 Electoral Votes

Now, granted, this was on Medium, but nothing was altered and there were no cross-party endorsements to mess it up. I built up in Iowa and New Hampshire, and ultimately, Bachmann narrowly edged out Perry for the nomination. I used up my 5 PIP's to get him to drop out. The economy completely collapsed in early September which took a 5 point lead and turned it into a 20 point lead, and smart money management plus debate momentum brought it to this. I have to say, with no little cheats thrown in, this might be my best performance.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on January 21, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
Utah at 89.7.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JerryArkansas on January 21, 2013, 12:11:52 PM
one question about the map, what is Washington dc at in vote totals


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on January 21, 2013, 02:55:43 PM
one question about the map, what is Washington dc at in vote totals
I don't remember the exact percentage, but it was comfortably over 60%. Once I realized I was going to easily win, I focused heavily on Massachusetts and D.C., as I thought those would be the toughest states. D.C. went from 40 points against Bachmann to 10 points for her in a span of 3 weeks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on January 25, 2013, 12:21:54 AM
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I closed to quickly, but I won as Bloomberg finally. I did not get most of the state percentages, but I did remember what I got overall. Until two weeks before, I was only leading in Rhode Island.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/Senator Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - 41%, 355 EV's
Governor Mitch Daniels (R-IN)/Senator Jim Demint (R-SC) - 32%, 110 EV's
Senator Kay Hagan (D-NC)/Mike Beebe (D-AR) - 27%, 73 EV's


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on January 27, 2013, 03:11:32 AM
I feel like I'm running the thread amok, but...

1996, Bill Weld becomes the Republican nominee after months and months of building momentum in early states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Delaware, and the Dakotas, and managed to sweep the entire nation, with Dole only taking the most anti-Weld states of Oklahoma, Texas, Alaska, and his home state of Kansas and McCain taking Hawaii. Once he officially became the nominee, Weld picked Richard Lugar, revered Senator of Indiana, to be his Vice Presidential candidate. From the end of the conventions, Weld possessed an immense, unbeatable lead, and in spite of tons of scandals and negative ads on both sides, Weld won with a victory many thought would be hard considering the economy turning around.

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Governor Bill Weld (R-MA)/Senator Dick Lugar (R-IN) - 52%, 506 EV's
President William J. Clinton (D-AR)/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 39%, 32 EV's
Businessman Ross Perot (R-TX)/Former Congressman Ed Zschau (R-CA) - 8%, 0 EV's
Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Enviormentalist Winona LaDuke (G-CA)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on January 27, 2013, 08:40:59 PM
I feel like I'm running the thread amok, but...

1996, Bill Weld becomes the Republican nominee after months and months of building momentum in early states like Iowa, New Hampshire, Delaware, and the Dakotas, and managed to sweep the entire nation, with Dole only taking the most anti-Weld states of Oklahoma, Texas, Alaska, and his home state of Kansas and McCain taking Hawaii. Once he officially became the nominee, Weld picked Richard Lugar, revered Senator of Indiana, to be his Vice Presidential candidate. From the end of the conventions, Weld possessed an immense, unbeatable lead, and in spite of tons of scandals and negative ads on both sides, Weld won with a victory many thought would be hard considering the economy turning around.

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Governor Bill Weld (R-MA)/Senator Dick Lugar (R-IN) - 52%, 506 EV's
President William J. Clinton (D-AR)/House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 39%, 32 EV's
Businessman Ross Perot (R-TX)/Former Congressman Ed Zschau (R-CA) - 8%, 0 EV's
Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Enviormentalist Winona LaDuke (G-CA)
What state's has good Showing's for Ross Perot?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on January 31, 2013, 05:50:45 AM
Edwards and I went through a brutal Primary fight. But I came out on top with a surprise win in Colorado in May and had the momentum from there. Powell challenged Bush for the nomination and won New Hampshire, Arizona, and Iowa. Bush won, but was severely wounded. In the beginning, the tossups were as they were IRL; Nevada, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Colorado, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Oragon, Washington, Pennsylvania, Missouri, and of course Florida. But by destroying him in the debates and by building up a huge following of footsoldiers I ended up with leads in the Swing States. In October, I had a huge cash dump in Bush States and ended up with this surprising result. Keep in mind though, he had leads in Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Alabama, Alaska, Kansas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma going in.
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Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Senator John Edwards (D-NC) 538 EVS, 66.6% PV , 75,275,872 Votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice-President Dick Cheney (R-WY) 0 EVS, 33.4 PV,  37,783,970 Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TNF on January 31, 2013, 11:42:44 AM
Edwards and I went through a brutal Primary fight. But I came out on top with a surprise win in Colorado in May and had the momentum from there. Powell challenged Bush for the nomination and won New Hampshire, Arizona, and Iowa. Bush won, but was severely wounded. In the beginning, the tossups were as they were IRL; Nevada, Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, Colorado, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Oragon, Washington, Pennsylvania, Missouri, and of course Florida. But by destroying him in the debates and by building up a huge following of footsoldiers I ended up with leads in the Swing States. In October, I had a huge cash dump in Bush States and ended up with this surprising result. Keep in mind though, he had leads in Utah, Wyoming, Idaho, Alabama, Alaska, Kansas, Louisiana, and Oklahoma going in.
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Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Senator John Edwards (D-NC) 538 EVS, 66.6% PV , 75,275,872 Votes
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice-President Dick Cheney (R-WY) 0 EVS, 33.4 PV,  37,783,970 Votes

This ... is ... beautiful! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 01, 2013, 07:35:18 PM
1992
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House Majority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN)-331 EV, 38.5% of the popular vote.
President George Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Secretary of State Al Haig (R-PA)-182 EV, 36.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Admiral James Stockdale (I-CA)-25 EV, 24.9% of the popular vote.

This game was very interesting. I was Gephardt, and easily won the nomination over Cuomo and Clinton (with Harkin turned off and Rockefeller also turned on) after a series of early primary wins. I had little opposition besides Cuomo, who won some big parties and could have waged an insurgency campaign against me, had I not convinced him to drop out. I got the nomination by May, and built up foot soldiers around the country. My themes were positive, with leadership, economy, and free trade being the focus. I lost all three debates, but Perot gave Bush enough of a challenge to make it look better for me. Oregon was by far the closest state, with Perot winning by 215 votes out of 1,336,827 cast.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on February 03, 2013, 05:25:37 PM
Another "sh1t that would never happen IRL" post:

I started in 2004 in the GE as Al Sharpton with Carol Moseley Braun as VP against Colin Powell and Condi, because I wanted a challenge and I thought it would be funny to have a black man and a black woman on each ticket. I did pretty well throughout the campaign, alternating between attacking Powell on education and positive ads on Sharpton's leadership. I was leading by October. But in the last week I ran out of cash and Powell surged in California and New Jersey, which led to a sorta weird result there.

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Mr Al Sharpton (D-NY)/Fmr Senator Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL) 51.7% of the popular vote, 341 EVs
Secretary of State Colin Powell (R-VA)/National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice (R-CA) 44.7% of the popular vote, 197 EVs
Mr Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Mr Lance Brown (L-CA) 2.3% of the popular vote
Mr Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Mr Chuck Baldwin (C-FL) 1.2% of the popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 04, 2013, 07:51:18 PM
1980
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Congressman John Anderson (R-IL)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY)-436 EV, 52.7%-42,877,018 votes.
President James Carter (D-GA)/Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN)-102 EV,47.3%-38,537,911 votes.

Alabama: Carter-54.3%-800,907 votes. Anderson-45.7%-672,763 votes.
Alaska: Anderson-56.7%-66,912 votes. Carter-43.3%-51,050 votes.
Arizona: Anderson-63.6%-561,754 votes. Carter-36.4%-322,052 votes.
Arkansas: Anderson-53.1%-438,686 votes. Carter-46.9%-387,923 votes.
California: Anderson-56.0%-4,662,866 votes. Carter-44.0%-3,669,311 votes.
Colorado: Anderson-55.7%-523,985 votes. Carter-44.3%-416,964 votes.
Connecticut: Carter-53.1%-585,698 votes. Anderson-46.9%-517,241 votes.
Delaware: Carter-51.3%-108,240 votes. Anderson-48.7%-102,683 votes.
DC: Carter-74.9%-170,874 votes. Anderson-25.1%-57,410 votes.
Florida: Anderson-52.0%-1,795,077 votes. Carter-48.0%-1,658,049 votes.
Georgia: Carter-62.8%-1,217,633 votes. Anderson-37.2%-722,429 votes.
Hawaii: Carter-52.4%-163,619 votes. Anderson-47.6%-148,587 votes.
Idaho: Anderson-64.9%-200,076 votes. Carter-35.1%-108,047 votes.
Illinois: Anderson-50.0%-2,020,899 votes. Carter-50.0%-2,019,801 votes.
Indiana: Anderson-51.1%-988,597 votes. Carter-48.9%-944,370 votes.
Iowa: Anderson-54.5%-560,140 votes. Carter-45.5%-468,359 votes.
Kansas: Anderson-53.3%-460,001 votes. Carter-46.7%-402,896 votes.
Kentucky: Carter-52.6%-704,709 votes. Anderson-47.4%-635,225 votes.
Louisiana: Anderson-53.2%-782,188 votes. Carter-46.8%-688,987 votes.
Maine: Carter-50.5%-195,912 votes.  Anderson-49.5%-192,293 votes.
Maryland: Carter-53.1%-828,161 votes. Anderson-46.9%-730,845 votes.
Massachusetts: Anderson-52.2%-1,053,578 votes. Carter-47.8%-965,622 votes.
Michigan: Anderson-54.8%-1,861,378 votes. Carter-45.2%-1,537,770 votes.
Minnesota: Carter-53.2%-764,203 votes. Anderson-46.8%-672,898 votes.
Mississippi: Carter-52.6%-468,786 votes. Anderson-47.4%-422,213 votes.
Missouri: Anderson-53.1%-992,769 votes. Carter-46.9%-876,672 votes.
Montana: Anderson-50.3%-133,859 votes. Carter-49.7%-132,272 votes.
Nevada: Anderson-59.7%-163,898 votes. Carter-40.3%-110,831 votes.
Nebraska: Anderson-58.9%-333,221 votes. Carter-41.1%-232,136 votes.
New Hampshire: Anderson-59.0%-177,789 votes. Carter-41.0%-123,773 votes.
New Jersey: Anderson-50.7%-1,374, 291 votes. Carter-49.3%-1,336,583 votes.
New Mexico: Anderson-52.1%-217,455 votes. Carter-47.9%-200,186 votes.
New York: Anderson-55.2%-3,652,116 votes. Carter-44.8%-2,965,583 votes.
North Carolina: Anderson-51.1%-1,107,718 votes. Carter-48.9%-1,060,084 votes.
North Dakota: Anderson-58.2%-134,045 votes. Carter-41.8%-96,421 votes.
Ohio: Anderson-54.9%-2,169,909 votes. Carter-45.1%-1,780,703 votes.
Oklahoma: Anderson-56.4%-629,979 votes. Carter-43.6%-486,238 votes.
Oregon: Anderson-51.7%-479,789 votes. Carter-48.3%-447,984 votes.
Pennsylvania: Anderson-51.7%-2,269,607 votes. Carter-48.3%-2,122,147 votes.
Rhode Island: Carter-54.2%-174,811 votes. Anderson-45.8%-147,940 votes.
South Carolina: Anderson-50.1%-554,257 votes. Carter-49.9%-551,829 votes.
South Dakota: Anderson-54.0%-130,122 votes. Carter-46.0%-110,825 votes.
Tennessee: Carter-52.8%-885,607 votes. Anderson-47.2%-793,171 votes.
Texas: Anderson-57.0%-2,979,120 votes. Carter-43.0%-2,243,894 votes.
Utah: Anderson-72.5%-328,164 votes. Carter-27.5%-124,318 votes.
Vermont: Carter-51.9%-85,587 votes. Anderson-48.1%-79,193 votes.
Virginia: Anderson-53.9%-1,044,388 votes. Carter-46.1%-893,121 votes.
Washington: Anderson-52.5%-752,041 votes. Carter-47.5%-679,185 votes.
West Virginia: Carter-51.3%-353,034 votes. Anderson-48.7%-335,778 votes.
Wisconsin: Anderson-55.6%-941,224 votes. Carter-44.4%-752,140 votes.
Wyoming: Anderson-62.8%-104,443 votes. Carter-37.2%-61,984 votes.

I started as Anderson in the primaries. I won Arkansas, and did well in Iowa, and built a lot of momentum. I won the nomination due to Bush, Baker, and Connally duking it out for weeks. Reagan peaked rather early, and I got his endorsement (and 300 delegates), allowing for surprise wins in New York and Illinois. The general looked like it would be very, very close. But with no third party candidates, the race was a lot less tight then I would have thought. In the end, the state of Illinois was won by 1,098 votes, being the closest state (dead 50.0-50.0 tie).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on February 04, 2013, 08:20:12 PM
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Vice-President Al Gore (D-TN)/ Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): 64.8%   516 EVs   76,066,678
Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NYC)/ Senator Bill Frist (D-TN): 35.2%  22 EVs 41,293,745

I started the primaries off with Hillary leading everywhere but Iowa. I started running ads in all 50 states hitting her on Issue Familiarity. This raised my percentage in all states and sunk hers. I built up leads in Iowa and New Hampshire. Obama then started to make a comeback late in the game. I won both states and Hillary kept falling. Obama then beat me on Super Tuesday. I bribed Hillary to drop out and endorse me before the Colorado Primary in April. With the nomination mine, I offered Obama the VP slot and he accepted.
The General Election began and I had an advantage already. I ran tons of negative ads on Giuliani's IF and Iraq. With no natural base of support, he began to slip in the ECV. I was popular in both the South and Northeast. He won the first two debates, and I won the last. I money bombed all 50 States with Leadership and IF ads in the last month and got this result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on February 08, 2013, 11:38:19 PM
Democratic Primaries, 2008:

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Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA)
Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)
General Wesley Clark (D-AR)

I started as Bayh, won a handful of states early (MO, OK, SC). Clinton won most of the primaries, with me slightly edging out Warner for second and Gore and Clark taking some others. I used my PIPs to get Clark to endorse me after Super Tuesday, and Gore dropped out and endorsed me unprompted afterwards, which put me ahead of Hillary in delegate count. Warner soon dropped out without endorsing anyone and I got the nomination.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on February 24, 2013, 06:58:16 PM
Has anyone managed to win the nomination as Graham in 04? I've been trying recently and I can't.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Warren 4 Secretary of Everything on February 24, 2013, 07:16:30 PM
Has anyone managed to win the nomination as Graham in 04? I've been trying recently and I can't.
I did, barely. You have to focus on New Hampshire and Suth Carolina. That'll give him momentum going forward. You also have to raise as much money as you can so you can run tons of ads getting his message out.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on February 24, 2013, 07:40:49 PM
Has anyone managed to win the nomination as Graham in 04? I've been trying recently and I can't.
I did, barely. You have to focus on New Hampshire and Suth Carolina. That'll give him momentum going forward. You also have to raise as much money as you can so you can run tons of ads getting his message out.

Yeah Graham is hard but I've done it too. After sweeping Super Tuesday, Dean and Edwards started catching up to me, so I made Dean my VP to stop the bleeding.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on April 05, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
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Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 1652 Delegates, 49.3% in last poll
Governor Ann Richards (D-TX) - 1136 Delegates, 31.5% in last poll
Senator Sam Nunn (D-GE) - 619 Delegates, 19.1% in last poll

Throughout the early primaries, the race was between Ann Richards and Al Gore. However, Ann Richards took Alaska fairly easy and Nunn got second in Iowa over Gore, so he pretty soon became fairly irrelevant. Biden got fourth in Iowa, but a very strong 17% back when all the candidates were included, so his New Hampshire numbers were solidified and he won New Hampshire fairly solidly. From there, Biden managed to build momentum with close loses in The Dakotas and South Carolina and big wins on Mini-Tuesday. Eliminated Gore with a win in Tennessee and eliminated Jesse Jackson with an upset in D.C., and from there Richards held on and Nunn did too to try to stop Biden's nomination.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 06, 2013, 06:11:11 PM
Does anyone know how to add a party to a scenario? I can't use the candidate editor, but can I copy data from the data sheets onto another data sheet for to add a political party?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 09, 2013, 07:29:34 PM
2008
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Claire McCaskill-427 EV, 54.5% of the PV.
Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL)-111 EV, 44.4% of the PV.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-0.8% of the PV.
Mr. Wayne Allyn Root (L-NV)/Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)-0.2% of the PV.

I..I....I have no idea why I won Vermont by 2,000 votes....Montana was tied 49.3%-49.3%. I won by freaking 22 votes. One third of the Libertarian vote came from Georgia, where they got 3.3%. Obama won NY by 0.4%.

I blame the loss on my primary battle with Romney, which went on until the end. I did not clinch the nomination until NM and SD...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on April 09, 2013, 08:22:52 PM
2008
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Claire McCaskill-427 EV, 54.5% of the PV.
Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL)-111 EV, 44.4% of the PV.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-0.8% of the PV.
Mr. Wayne Allyn Root (L-NV)/Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)-0.2% of the PV.

I..I....I have no idea why I won Vermont by 2,000 votes....Montana was tied 49.3%-49.3%. I won by freaking 22 votes. One third of the Libertarian vote came from Georgia, where they got 3.3%. Obama won NY by 0.4%.

I blame the loss on my primary battle with Romney, which went on until the end. I did not clinch the nomination until NM and SD...
how close were the primaries?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 09, 2013, 10:00:38 PM
2008
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/Senator Claire McCaskill-427 EV, 54.5% of the PV.
Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS)/Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL)-111 EV, 44.4% of the PV.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-0.8% of the PV.
Mr. Wayne Allyn Root (L-NV)/Former Congressman Bob Barr (L-GA)-0.2% of the PV.

I..I....I have no idea why I won Vermont by 2,000 votes....Montana was tied 49.3%-49.3%. I won by freaking 22 votes. One third of the Libertarian vote came from Georgia, where they got 3.3%. Obama won NY by 0.4%.

I blame the loss on my primary battle with Romney, which went on until the end. I did not clinch the nomination until NM and SD...
how close were the primaries?
If Romney won just one of the final two primaries (around 20 delegates), he would have won the nomination.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 14, 2013, 09:18:46 PM
1972
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President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Vice President Spiro Agnew (R-MD)-538 EV, 76.3% of the popular vote (59,300,195).
Senator George McGovern (D-SD)/Senator Henry Jackson (D-WA)-21.1% of the popular vote (16,361,414).
Congressman John Schmitz (AIP-CA)/Congressman John Ashbrook (AIP-OH)-2.6% of the popular vote (2,045,181).

I played Schmitz. He has a lot of advantages-Ashbrook's endorsement, plus the John Birch Society, the National Review, and the American Conservative Union are easy to get support from. I also tried to get Wallace's support, and almost had it, but I waited one turn too many to try again, and he withdrew from the race. As Schmitz, I came in second (with 18%) in Utah, and broke 10% in Alaska and Idaho. Montana, and Louisiana gave me about 8%. I averaged 5% in the rest of the western states, and 2% in all the other ones. I was not on the ballot in many states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Free North on April 21, 2013, 10:38:48 PM
2016 version

1912 election, playing as Roosevelt (apologies for the bad screenshot)
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I figured my strength was going to be in the midwest and west and played to that. I dominated both debates, but wilson hung strong. My ads began to work well later in the game and I made significant inroads in places like Ohio and Iowa while also gaining on the Pacific. Wilson dominated the south obviously, and I never really campaigned there. Taft was interesting though, he was nowhere to be seen all game and then he started making big moves in New England as well as a bunch of other random states late in the game. New York was once in Wilsons hands, by a large margin, but Taft made a huge push there late in the game. He never came close to winning, but he helped prevent wilson from getting to 266. How he ended up winning Wisconsin and Oklahoma is beyond me, but oh well.

Final totals were:

Candidate           Popular Vote             Vote Percentage            Electoral Vote

Roosevelt           17,151,233                  29.3                               219
Wilson               24,331,143                  41.5                                204
Taft                   14,134,938                  24.1                               108  
Debs                  2,967,876                     5.1                                 0


So obviously no one got a majority, which interested me because I have not had that happen in this game before. Well, the election went to the house, and being heavily republican, Taft became president. Probably the first president to win less than 1/4 of the vote, but it was certainly interesting to play.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The Free North on April 22, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
2016 Election between

Rand Paul/Brian Sandoval
Elizabeth Warren/Martin O'Malley


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Totals

Candidate                Popular Vote (percentage)               Electoral Vote

Paul/Sandoval             63,869,389 (49.6)                          272
Warren/O'Malley         64,848,089 (50.4)                           266


I was down big early playing as Paul. Three bad debate performances and a bad scandal had me down big in states like VA and FL. However, I destroyed Warren in the last debate and that turned things around big time for me. I began to comeback in the midwest and west and my momentum carried the day. Before election day, NH, PA, and NC were tied and Warren was leading in NV. However, I won 3/4 of those states and that proved to be the key. On election night, after winning both OH and PA, I was confident I would do well out west and put in a strong showing there too. I lost NM by 2,000 votes, and was within a few points of warren in most Mid West states as well.

Florida was the only real outlier, could never break through there.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on April 30, 2013, 08:53:51 PM
1960
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Vice President Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Senator Prescott Bush (R-CT)-457 EV, 55.8% of the popular vote.
Senator John Kennedy (D-MA)/Governor Abraham Ribicoff (D-CT)-80 EV, 43.4% of the popular vote.
Senator Harry F. Byrd (SR-VA)/Senator Strom Thurmond (SR-SC)-0.8% of the popular vote.

The closest state was MS, with Kennedy winning by a margin about 2,000 votes with Byrd, Kennedy, and Nixon all at one time holding a lead at one point in time. I held off Rockefeller in the primaries by using a power 9 scandal, and went on to knock him out early. Johnson held out to the DNC, though Kennedy won easily on the second ballot. I had a good lead from the beginning heading into the general election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on May 12, 2013, 10:51:01 PM
1996: Giant Sucking Sound (President Perot)

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Biden/Richards - 364EV, 40.2% PV
Schwarzkopf/Donlan - 138EV, 31.5% PV
Perot/Cox - 36EV, 28.3% PV

Started as Biden in the primaries. Won Iowa and New Hampshire, but it was a struggle from there. At the end I was in 3rd, with Gore in 2nd and Richards in 1st. I got Gore to drop out and endorse me and selected Richards to be my VP. Was tied at 30/30/30 the whole campaign until election night, where all the undecideds broke my way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 21, 2013, 09:30:34 PM
2008
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Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)/Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)-341 EV, 56.1% of the popular vote.
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)-42.9% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Kat Swift (G-TX)-0.7% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Mary Ruwart (L-TX)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-FL)-0.2% of the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MadmanMotley on May 22, 2013, 03:52:20 PM
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Played Bayh in 2008 against Tommy Thompson, almost a 50 state sweep, I only lost Utah by 3000 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 01, 2013, 02:11:27 PM
2012-The Return of Rudy.
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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)-279 EV, 51.91% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)-259 EV, 46.95% of the popular vote.
Fmr. Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-CA)-0.95% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mr. Kent Mesplay (G-CA)-0.10% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-MT)-0.09% of the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on June 05, 2013, 07:25:48 PM
2016: President Romney

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President Mitt Romney (R-MA)
535 Electoral Votes
64.5% (81,467,977)
     
Governor Martin O'Malley (D-MD)
3 Electoral Votes
35.5% (44,863,238)


This one wasn't too difficult, as the Democrats had a really contentious primary. The main contenders were Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Joe Manchin (D-WV), Deval Patrick (D-MA), and Martin O'Malley (D-MD). Playing as Romney, I had a primary challenger in Rand Paul (R-KY), but he presented pretty much no threat whatsoever. The Democratic primaries gave me a lot of time to organize my campaign, fundraise, and up my skills. There were some turns where I was making around $15,000,000 a week, so I was constantly running nationwide ads. "Miltary Intervention" was actually Romney most popular platform position, so by the spring, even moderately successful ads would still have an average power rating of about 9. I also took this opportunity to completely steamroll Hillary with negative ads, as I figured she'd probably be the most difficult candidate to beat. When the Democratic convention got underway, they still didn't have a nominee. Hillary was leading, but when Manchin withdrew, most of his delegates went to O'Malley. I was thrilled. From that point on, it was pretty easy. I don't think I once even paid a visit to conventional battleground states like Ohio or Florida. By the time September hit, I was campaigning for California, Vermont, Illinois, Maryland... it was fun.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on June 05, 2013, 10:51:55 PM
That's a pretty masturbatory result... for you :P 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HagridOfTheDeep on June 05, 2013, 10:59:23 PM
That's a pretty masturbatory result... for you :P 

;)

DC was a shame though.

In all honestly, I've gotten kind of tired of President Forever. The new version is way too complex and the old version is way too easy (unless you're playing as someone like Michele Bachmann). I think I need some better scenarios.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Negusa Nagast 🚀 on June 10, 2013, 06:55:57 PM
I like Hagrid's formatting, I think I'll utilize here!

1980 scenario which I edited slightly (added Biden as a character).

1980 (Nagas's Edit)

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Former President Gerald Ford (R-MI)
159 Electoral Votes
46.5% (37,841,948)
     
Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)
379 Electoral Votes
48.9% (39,822,969,)
Representative John Anderson (R-IL)
0 Electoral Votes
4.6% (3,753,002)

Turned Kennedy/Carter off in the primaries and turned Carey, Proxmire, and Brown on. Biden led most of the time after victory in Iowa and New Hampshire, but Proxmire's endorsement of Carey in May made things dicey. Ford upset Reagan at the end of the primaries by winning California and attaining a bare majority. Ford led for most of the race, but Biden slowly closed the gap. On election night, many key battleground states (Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania) leaned toward Ford, with Pennsylvania being called for Ford early in the night. However, the margins reversed and I ended up carrying every battleground state and then some (South Carolina, Texas).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 20, 2013, 09:45:05 PM
2008
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)-410 EV, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC)-128 EV, 41.8% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-3.6% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Mary Ruwart (L-TX)/Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)-0.8% of the popular vote.

Played Hilldawg through the primaries, crushed everyone by April. The results are pretty strange, seeing as the polls were tight until the last few weeks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sec. of State Superique on June 22, 2013, 09:17:07 AM
2008
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)-410 EV, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC)-128 EV, 41.8% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-3.6% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Mary Ruwart (L-TX)/Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)-0.8% of the popular vote.

Played Hilldawg through the primaries, crushed everyone by April. The results are pretty strange, seeing as the polls were tight until the last few weeks.


How do you win Utah and Wyoming and loose Colorado by a strong margin?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 23, 2013, 06:37:42 PM
2008
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN)-410 EV, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Governor Mark Sanford (R-SC)-128 EV, 41.8% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-3.6% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Mary Ruwart (L-TX)/Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)-0.8% of the popular vote.

Played Hilldawg through the primaries, crushed everyone by April. The results are pretty strange, seeing as the polls were tight until the last few weeks.


How do you win Utah and Wyoming and loose Colorado by a strong margin?
Your guess is as good as mine :P.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 24, 2013, 10:58:32 PM
2012
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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)-292 EV, 47.7% of the popular vote.
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Secretary of State Joe Biden (D-DE)-246 EV, 50.6% of the popular vote.
Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-MT)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TE)-1.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Wayne Root (L-NV)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-CA)-0.6% of the popular vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Spamage on June 30, 2013, 01:28:14 AM
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1972, I'm Wallace. Ran in the primaries and carried Iowa and New Hampshire somehow. It was a 3 way fight between myself, McGovern, and Muskie from that point on. Eventually I got McGovern to withdraw and offered Muskie my Vice Presidential slot, heading into the GE I was only ahead in the South.

Following several large scandals against Nixon, which I had researched in the Summer, I slowly climbed in the polls before releasing a large ad campaign which boosted by momentum and destroyed Nixon's.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 07, 2013, 08:12:58 PM
2000
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Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/ Professor Condoleezza Rice (R-AL)-425 EV, 53.6% of the popular vote.
Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)/Governor Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)-113 EV, 40.0% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Winona LaDuke (G-MN)-4.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Pat Buchanan (RF-DC)/Congressman Virgil Goode (RF-VA)-2.3% of the popular vote.

And I thought I was lucky to have won Iowa over Bush at the start :P.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on July 07, 2013, 10:38:09 PM
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President Ross Perot (F-TX)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ) - 36.6%, 335 EV's
Governor Pete Wilson (R-CA)/Congressman Jack Kemp (R-NY) - 37.4%, 200 EV's
Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN)/Senator Daniel P. Monyihan (D-NY) - 26.0%, 3 EV's

I played as Pete Wilson, who after New Hampshire, cruised through the primaries. Through most of the election, Wilson seemed to cruise through the general, but Perot had a strong late showing, with Jerry Brown speaking in favor of him in the news and such, giving him the late boost that he needed. Wellstone's campaign completely fell off the radar after the first two weeks of the general election campaign. In retrospect, maybe I should've had a campaign alliance with the Wellstone campaign earlier, as to hold Perot back for those final couple of weeks.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tpfkaw on July 07, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
What moron put John McCain as a possible running mate for Perot?  They have pretty much completely opposite ideologies and what's more hate each other (because of the Vietnam POW issue).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on July 07, 2013, 10:44:27 PM
What moron put John McCain as a possible running mate for Perot?  They have pretty much completely opposite ideologies and what's more hate each other (because of the Vietnam POW issue).

The list for Perot running mates is pretty damn ridiculous, I agree, just decided McCain would be a fun one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on July 10, 2013, 07:47:52 PM
1976: The Year of Jerry Brown

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Governor Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Senator Birch Bayh (D-IN) - 51.9%, 431 EV's
Former Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC) - 45.8%, 108 EV's
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Bunch of Other People (I-Oth) - 2.3%, 0 EV's

One of the funner and stranger maps I've seen. Reagan pulled a lot of generic Republican states for the time, but he also managed to pull some great states that Republicans don't usually win. I played as Jerry Brown, who started in a tie but led for most of the race, but with McCarthy siding with Reagan, there was a bunch of scandals toward the end and Reagan started to pull up in the numbers. I wanted to test to see how McCarthy dropping out and endorsing Reagan would look, and here's that map...

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Governor Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Senator Birch Bayh (D-IN) - 51.9%, 310 EV's
Former Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC) - 48.1%, 228 EV's

It's clear that McCarthy, who attacked Brown way more than he attacked Reagan, was actually a harm to the Reagan campaign.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Cappuccino on July 12, 2013, 10:27:21 PM
2016: Clinton Landslide

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Secretary Hilary Clinton (D-AR)
379 Electoral Votes
51.9% (67,122,901)
     
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)
159 Electoral Votes
46.3% (59,880,352)


I didn't play primaries for this one, and instead picked two of the most likely nominees for each party, those being Hillary Clinton (with Mark Warner as running mate) and Marco Rubio (with Kelly Ayotte). The race was extremely close for most of the campaign through September and October, with Rubio winning the first debate but Clinton taking the next two; Warner lost the VP Debate. However in the final two weeks of the campaign Clinton started surging off the back of her debate wins and a massive campaigning sweep across the nation's swing states concentrated across a few days. For those final weeks Clinton never had momentum lower than +5, and had days at a time where she was sitting on +9 momentum. I was a bit disappointed that my efforts in the South hadn't paid off (though winning Rubio's home state was nice)- trying to utilise the Clintons' widespread appeal I spent a lot of time trying to chip away at normally 'safe' Republican states like Georgia, Arkansas and Tennessee. In the end I came close to winning all of those states but they ended up falling for Rubio.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on July 12, 2013, 11:48:37 PM
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30% Green - Nader 0-10%
40% Green - Nader 10-20%
50% Green - Nader 20-30%
60% Green - Nader 30% ->

I played as Ralph Nader in 2000, and won 7.2% of the Popular vote and no electors. However, here are top 10 the best Nader States...

D.C. - 55% Gore, 32% Nader, 13% McCain
Utah - 48% McCain, 26% Nader, 20% Gore
Vermont - 44% Gore, 28% McCain, 26% Nader
Montana - 46% McCain, 29% Gore, 21% Nader
Colorado - 39% Gore, 39% McCain, 20% Nader
Alaska - 48% McCain, 24% Gore, 18% Nader, 10% Buchanan
Massachusetts - 49% Gore, 33% McCain, 17% Nader
Hawaii - 48% Gore, 32% McCain, 16% Nader
Maine - 47% Gore, 37% McCain, 15% Nader
Connecticut - 53% Gore, 32% McCain, 14% Nader

Overall...

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Vice President Al Gore (D-TN)/Senator John Kerry (D-MA) - 49%, 388 EV's
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Businessman Steve Forbes (R-NJ) - 42%, 150 EV's
Activist Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Activist Winona LaDuke (G-CA) - 7%, 0 EV's
Columnist Pat Buchanan (R-VA)/Activist Ezolza Foster (R-CA) - 2%, 0 EV's


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 13, 2013, 01:00:26 AM
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Running mates were Jeb Bush (R) and Bob Graham (D). This was the 2004 President McCain scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on July 17, 2013, 05:15:59 PM
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Governor William Weld (R-MA)/ Governor Carrol Campbell Jr. (R-SC) - 47.7%, 367 EV's
Senator Chris Dodd (D-CT)/Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 47.1%, 171 EV's
Governor Dick Lamm (Ref-CO)/Congressman Ed Zschau (Ref-CA) - 4.3%, 0 EV's
Others - 1%, 0 EV's

Decided to play just the final round, and the whole game I trailed Chris Dodd, though the momentum was clearly on my side. I played heavy for swing states and my number of states grew. Strangely, my strongest state was California, where I had gained a lead in the last week of the campaign. Not sure how I lost Oklahoma, though. Most states were within a point or two, so things got really tricky with some of the calling.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on July 25, 2013, 07:02:47 PM
1984: The Rise of Ernest Hollings

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Senator Ernest Hollings (D-SC)/Senator John Glenn (D-OH) - 46.4%, 290 EV's
President Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Vice President George H.W. Bush (R-TX) - 48.5%, 248 EV's
Former Congressman John Anderson (I-IL)/Former Governor Pat Lucey (I-WI) - 5%, 0 EV's

Won every state in the toss-up and then some after a level 9 scandal hit Ronald Reagan in the last week.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 27, 2013, 11:29:13 PM
1992
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Senator Bob Kerrey (D-NE)/Senator Al Gore (D-TE)-381 EV, 40.8% of the popular vote.
President George Bush (R-TX)/Fmr. Secretary of State Al Haig (R-PA)-140 EV, 34.5% of the popular vote.
Ross Perot (I-TX)/Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL)-17 EV, 24.8% of the popular vote.

I was surprised with my win in SC, and almost won Alabama as well.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Tayya on July 28, 2013, 12:30:25 PM
What moron put John McCain as a possible running mate for Perot?  They have pretty much completely opposite ideologies and what's more hate each other (because of the Vietnam POW issue).

The list for Perot running mates is pretty damn ridiculous, I agree, just decided McCain would be a fun one.

I created the scenario, and the list is based off advice from the creator of the timeline it's based on, MaskedPickle on the Alternate History forums. The whole Freedom Party is not very realistic at all, but it's quite fun.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 28, 2013, 01:07:50 PM
What moron put John McCain as a possible running mate for Perot?  They have pretty much completely opposite ideologies and what's more hate each other (because of the Vietnam POW issue).

The list for Perot running mates is pretty damn ridiculous, I agree, just decided McCain would be a fun one.

I created the scenario, and the list is based off advice from the creator of the timeline it's based on, MaskedPickle on the Alternate History forums. The whole Freedom Party is not very realistic at all, but it's quite fun.
Yeah, I thought the Freedom Party was a hodgepodge of political outcasts. I can't see Ron Paul, Bernie Sanders, Donald Trump, and Tim Penny all in one party.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 28, 2013, 02:04:22 PM
1996
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Governor William Weld (R-MA)/Senator John McCain (R-AZ)-332 EV, 48.8% of the popular vote.
President Bob Kerrey (D-NE)/Vice President Al Gore (D-TE)-206 EV, 41.4% of the popular vote.
Mr. Donald Trump (RF-NY)/Mr. Pat Choate (RF-DC)-6.1% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Diane Beall Templin (C-CA)/Mr. Howard Phillips (C-VA)-1.3% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Winona LaDuke (G-MN)-1.3% of the popular vote.
Mr. Harry Browne (L-TE)/Mrs. Jo Jorgensen (L-SC)-1.1% of the popular vote.

Yeah, I did not run a good campaign this time :P.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sec. of State Superique on July 28, 2013, 05:02:01 PM
What moron put John McCain as a possible running mate for Perot?  They have pretty much completely opposite ideologies and what's more hate each other (because of the Vietnam POW issue).

The list for Perot running mates is pretty damn ridiculous, I agree, just decided McCain would be a fun one.

I created the scenario, and the list is based off advice from the creator of the timeline it's based on, MaskedPickle on the Alternate History forums. The whole Freedom Party is not very realistic at all, but it's quite fun.

Are we talking about "The Giant Sucking Sound"?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on July 28, 2013, 05:02:37 PM
1996: Senator Biden crushes President Perot, Governor Campbell

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Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)/Governor Ann Richards (D-TX) - 47%, 527 EV's
President Ross Perot (F-TX)/Senator Arlen Spector (R-PA) -  31%, 11 EV's
Governor Carrol Campbell (R-SC)/Senator Kit Bond (R-MO) - 22%, 0 EV's

Winning the nomination was the hardest part. I didn't win any primaries til a double sweep of Michigan and Ohio. After that, I put all my resources into winning Pennsylvania, and from there I won every state after North Carolina. My momentum allowed delegates from Wellstone and Gore to shift to me over Richards. In good will (and cause I wanted to win Texas), I put Richards, the second runner-up, as VP. 'I was surprised my strategy worked. After that, Biden led most of the way, with Perot having varying levels of momentum. Ultimately, Perot's momentum was too little, too late, and Perot only held the last three of the swing states.

A Giant Sucking Sound might be the funnest simulation.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 08, 2013, 02:42:15 PM
I suck at this game.  I mean, I really suck at this game.  I've gone through every strategy in the book and I always end up losing badly whether the momentum is on my side or not.  Even when I'm leading in the polls on the last day, I lose.  The last game I played, however, came extremely close, with Idaho (!!!) deciding the election, and I only got there by playing as Richardson in the primary and purposely losing to Hillary by pressing the spacebar until it was over (a strategy which sometimes gives me an advantage at the start of the general election for some reason).  That said, I'm kind of proud at how close I came, so I decided to post the map anyway.

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Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 270 EVs
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) 268 EVs
(I forget what the popular vote was, but Rudy was leading me by about 5% or so.)

What really pisses me off is that Florida was consistently in my column until the last week, when it turned white.  I flooded it with footsoldiers and released all four of my ads up to the last day and still lost.  The fact that Giuliani found a level 6 scandal on me and I could only find two level 3 scandals on him is probably what did it.

This game hates me.

Also, whoever designed it clearly knows little about state trends.  How in the hell did I carry Arkansas and Arizona, but lose Pennsylvania and Oregon!?

Anyway, unless I come by a guide that can help me guarantee or almost guarantee a win for once, I probably won't come back to this game for a while.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on August 09, 2013, 09:16:30 PM
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General Wesley Clark of Illinois/Senator Bob Graham of Florida - 53.4%, 450 EV's
President George W. Bush of Texas/Vice President Dick Cheney of Wyoming - 44.6%, 88 EV's
Others - 2.1%, 0 EV's

Wesley Clark, after ending the primaries and tying Bush, surged throughout the campaign to the top of the polls. The last couple of weeks, Clark led Bush by 8 points, heading into toss-ups of Kenucky, South Dakota, South Carolina, Lousiana. Clark won all swing states, and came close to a couple of state that Clark trailed by 10 in the day before (Oklahoma, Montana, Kansas).

I have to say, this is one of the more logical maps I've seen in a while.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on August 15, 2013, 10:05:52 PM
Bruce Babbitt crushes Bush, edges out Jackson in the primary

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Former Governor Bruce Babbitt (D-AZ)/Governor Mario Cuomo (D-NY) - 47.8%, 437 EV's
Vice President George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Senator Paul Laxalt (R-NV) - 44.1%, 101 EV's
Former Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX)/Activist Russell Means (L-SD) - 4.4%, 0 EV's
Psychologist Lenora Fulani (N-NY)/Life Coach Joyce Dattner (N-CA) - 3.7%, 0 EV's

It goes from one of the most sensible maps to one of the least sensible... Oh well. Babbitt wins most of his states by narrow single digits, and I swear I wasn't going to win Missouri, North Dakota, Nevada, or Delaware if you had asked me before those results really came in. Running on a platform of Leadership, Iran Contra, and attack George H.W. Bush on taxes, I started behind by nearly 10 due to a bruising primary between Jesse Jackson and myself (I won Iowa, he won New Hampshire, ect.) but managed to rise due to some high level ads and some Bush scandals. Plus, Cuomo was probably a much better pick for me than Laxalt was for Bush.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 15, 2013, 11:04:25 PM
United States presidential election, 1992

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Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 363 EVs (44.9%)
President George Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 175 EVs (39.9%)
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Former Vice Admiral James Stockdale (I-IL) - 0 EVs (15.2%)

I finally won! :D  The closest state was Minnesota.

I started out fairly ahead, and I kept my momentum up by, strangely, using the same strategy I've used in my last failed attempts.  This map makes no sense, but whatever. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Niemeyerite on August 16, 2013, 07:53:12 AM
2012

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on August 16, 2013, 09:57:43 AM
That's the best result I've ever seen :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Enderman on August 16, 2013, 10:41:35 AM


THATS the way to go into the 2010's! :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 16, 2013, 05:24:49 PM
United States presidential election, 2004

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Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Senator Bill Nelson (D-FL) - 288 EVs (49.1%)
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 250 EVs (50.9%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Niemeyerite on August 19, 2013, 08:31:20 AM
Nebraska and Alabama were the closest states (78.8-21.2)... I'd like to know what would have been the result if I had played the Easy mode:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Supersonic on August 19, 2013, 08:35:08 AM
Nebraska and Alabama were the closest states (78.8-21.2)... I'd like to know what would have been the result if I had played the Easy mode:

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Wow. How did Cuomo get nuked?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Niemeyerite on August 19, 2013, 08:39:55 PM
Nebraska and Alabama were the closest states (78.8-21.2)... I'd like to know what would have been the result if I had played the Easy mode:

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Wow. How did Cuomo get nuked?

After SC voted, it was obvious that I'd win the GOP nomination (in fact, Ryan took AZ because I wasn't paying attention to the primaries anymore). I started to target and create footsoldiers in heavily dem states while Clinton, Cuomo and O'Malley were in a close fight. After Clinton lost some momentum, in part because of negative ads by my campaign, I decided to make her my VP and kept raising money and targeting dem states. Cuomo and O'Malley were tied, and it was in the final 2-3 states that Cuomo managed to get a majority of delegates... But it was too  late for him, because I had more than 50 M CoH and lots of ads that I could afford running in every state. I had enough CPs to spin every news and Cuomo actually stopped campaigning after I refused to debate him (I suppose it's authomatical if your opponent has less than 15% in the polls). I created many newspaper and web ads, and when I wanted to create very positive momentum for me, I released 2 TV ads at the same time (you create one and then wait to the 2nd one to be created and run them in every state at the same time: that usually makes news and has a power of 4). But not everything worked. I tried to find an scandal on Cuomo but no one was found, and I wasted a lot of time on debate prep, something I didn't need. Something that helped is that Christie usually get positive interviews. My objective was to have all the map in red before the democratic primaries were over, something I almost managed to do (DC and MA remained blue) and that helped me a lot because Cuomo wasted his time campaigning in the closer states, those where I had a better organization and more footsoldiers :) Then, he went mad and sent his VP O'Malley (he didn't campaign, as I mentioned) to campaign in the West and South, states I hadn't paid attention to at all. And that's why my best states are Michigan, Georgia (I spent a lot of time here because I wanted to get more votes than FDR got in his landslide in 1936) and Ohio and my worst states Nebraska, Alabama and Tennessee (where I didn't campaign). Fun fact is that I got 93% in DC but only 88% in UT and WY.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on August 19, 2013, 09:15:45 PM

Yup... backwards!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 20, 2013, 07:21:04 PM
Christie's pretty competitive in the general, I've found.  Not so much in the primary.

United States presidential election, 2012
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Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ)/Governor Bob McDonnell (R-VA) - 395 EVs (55.2%)
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 143 EVs (44.8%)

Started out even, spent all my final resources on Oregon, California, New Jersey and Delaware. :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on August 21, 2013, 04:57:21 PM
1976: This map be trippin

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Senator Charles Mathias (R-MD)/Senator Richard Schweiker (R-PA) - 49.2%, 398 EV's
Governor George Wallace (D-AL)/Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) - 48.5%, 141 EV's
Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (I-MN)/Peoples - 2.3%, 0 EV's

I went with Leftist Republican v. Right-Wing Democrat. Fun map, I have to say. I managed my funds fairly poorly and ended up with around $500,000 left for the campaign with still two weeks left to go. Led in the polls by 3 points, but despite winning most swing states, the race turned out to be neck and neck in the popular vote (cuz I won states like New York and California by less than a percent).

This is, of course, picking just for the general: Even at my best, I couldn't win Mathias the nomination (though I was very close at one point, barely being edged out by Gerald Ford after he won Texas in the final round by surprise. He had more delegates, but Mathias won by almost 9 points.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on August 25, 2013, 11:32:44 AM
Did you edit Mathias in yourself or did he come with the scenario you are playing?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on August 25, 2013, 11:35:56 AM
Did you edit Mathias in yourself or did he come with the scenario you are playing?

I edited in Mathias.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on September 01, 2013, 03:42:43 PM
So I finally gave in and bought this game, because the only torrent of it that's out there is the totally unpatched version with lots of bugs and no ability to play any of the other scenarios that people make. Had a chance to run a game while I was on the train up from DC, chose the 2009 NYC Mayor scenario b/c that seems fitting (an alt scenario someone made where Bloomberg doesn't run). Played as Richard Parsons who seemed interesting, plus I figured a Republican was a challenge. The GOP primary was pretty easy-I just ran citywide ads about how awesome a leader I was or something while nobody else ever really made any traction and seemed to spend a bunch of time tearing each other down pointlessly. Once it was clear I was gonna win the primary I focused on fundraising and debate prep. Ray Kelly surged really late and won the primaries in all of Brooklyn and SI but I won everywhere else. The Democratic primary was a total mess, in the end it went to the convention where Marty Markowitz beat Bill Thompson narrowly. I used my PIPs to bribe Joel Klein, one of the moderately successful Dems, to be my "running mate" (idk what that means in the context of NYC but it's built into the game). I destroyed Markowitz in the debates and outspent him, gradually closing until I overtook him in the last few weeks. On election night I won even bigger than I expected, taking every borough except Brooklyn (even the Bronx, narrowly):
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Pretty impressive imo, given that the GOP starts at like a 20-30 point disadvantage.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on September 02, 2013, 01:36:28 AM
In what was a really boring yet shocking game, I played as Ray Kelly and walloped the Republican primary against John Catismatidis, Pearson, and Golden with 80% of the vote (because i pillared the primary with ads and still had tons of money left over). By the time I was through, I was making changes to the Democratic Primary, and got Christine Quinn, the candidate I wanted to face against. I was leading by 5 by the time it got to the general, when I had started off behind by nearly 30. Then, I did the same thing: showered New Yorkers with ads, attacking Quinn's views on same sex marriage, while talking about the enviorment and leadership, and ended up winning every single borough except for South east Brooklyn (she won by 200 votes).

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SteveRogers on September 02, 2013, 03:25:36 AM
2012
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Herman Cain/ Michelle Bachmann - 47.5% - 272 EV
Barack Obama/ Joe Biden - 50.8% - 266 EV
Gary Johnson/ James Gray - 1.7%

I edited in Herman Cain, and I like to think I did him justice. I so far can't win the primaries with him.

Here Cain narrowly won the electoral vote despite Obama actually winning a majority of the popular vote. Michigan for some reason became a tossup in the last three days of the race.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on September 05, 2013, 12:56:10 PM
Really fun insomnia-fueled 3am game from a few days ago, playing the 1996 Prez Perot scenario as Jesse Jackson. Got my first break in the primaries by winning Iowa of all places. Came down to me, Ann Richards, and Paul Wellstone in the end, with Richards having like 45% of the delegates and Wellstone and me about evenly splitting the rest with me a teeny tiny bit ahead. Wellstone endorsed me after the primaries ended so I got the nomination. Started out in 3rd, worked my way up into the lead most of the campaign, but then ran out of cash early and crashed in the last two-ish weeks. This was the result:

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Almost a perfect three-way tie. I got the most pop votes but 2nd in the EC by one. Amazingly close.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on September 05, 2013, 12:59:33 PM
wow that sounds like a great game. Bravo.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on September 07, 2013, 03:27:34 PM
1996: President Pat Buchanan?

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Columnist Pat Buchanan (R-VA)/General Norman Schwartzkopf (R-NJ) - 36.6%, 375 EV's
Governor Ann Richards (D-TX)/Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 33.0%, 144 EV's
President Ross Perot (F-TX)/General Colin Powell (R-NY) - 30.4%, 19 EV's

Pat Buchanan forced the GOP to shape up and fly right after his stronger than expected performance in New Hampshire in 1992. Now, he has a much stronger operation and pushes for the GOP nomination again, beating California Governor Pete Wilson, General Norman Schwarzkopf, Senator Phil Gramm, and many many others, probably due to the clustered look of the primary. Besides South Carolina, Buchanan never won a primary with beyond 35% of the vote, showing that voters were not happy with Buchanan. As the field widdled down, even with Buchanan having all delegates, Schwarzkopf began winning primaries. Therefore, Buchanan picked Schwarzkopf for the ticket to end the battle, and soon afterwards, Dick Lugar and Gramm dropped out.

The general had a surprising outcome. For most of the initial campaign, momentum was on Buchanan's side, and he grew his numbers continually until the point where Buchanan had 414 Electorals locked. However, Richards started to gain support and so did Perot (after dipping below 25% at one point), and the race became more competitive. However, too little too late, Buchanan managed a surprising blow out win amongst the electoral college.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 07, 2013, 04:06:25 PM
2012
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Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Senator Rob Portman (R-OH) - 401 EVs (54.5%)
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 137 EVs (45.5%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lumine on September 07, 2013, 04:55:17 PM
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Newt in 2012:

Former Speaker Newt Gingrich/Former Secretary Condoleeza Rice - 48.9% - 301 EV
President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden - 48% - 237 EV
Former Governor Gary Johnson/Judge James Gray - 1.2%

After taking Iowa, South Carolina, Florida and Nevada I managed to avoid the Santorum surge with ads, and Romney put up a decent fight all the way to the New England April primaries, when Santorum and Paul endorsed me, ending the battle. Then I picked Rice and I focused on winning the swing states, which lead to Obama winning a lot of votes in safe Republican states. I was expecting to lose Michigan and Colorado and narrowly win Pennsylvania and Nevada, but it looks like the polls where way off.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 11, 2013, 09:08:26 PM
2008

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/General Wesley Clark (D-AR) - 317 EVs (54.9%)
Congressman Tom Tancredo (R-CO)/Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 221 EVs (45.1%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on September 11, 2013, 09:15:19 PM
wow way to go Tom Tancredo! Getting over 40%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 12, 2013, 12:20:31 AM
Yeah.  Whoever makes these games sure has a wild imagination. :P



1980

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Former Governor Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Governor Bob Graham (D-FL) - 442 EVs (55.7%)
Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Congressman George Bush (R-TX) - 96 EVs (44.3%)

This one was almost too easy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Hoverbored123 on September 12, 2013, 12:28:04 PM
I haven't been around for a while, but I decided to get back in the game.  Here's a map from this morning:

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Bill D. Cat (R)- 76,697,167 / 469 electoral votes
Hillary Clinton (D) - 50,240,388 - 69 electoral votes

The biggest surprise was how well I did in the "swing" states: 67% in NM, 61% in WA, and just under 70% (69.7%) in Ohio!  


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 13, 2013, 12:36:45 AM
2012

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Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-MN)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM) - 482 (60.5%)
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 56 (39.5%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on September 13, 2013, 02:32:42 PM
2012

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Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-MN)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM) - 482 (60.5%)
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 56 (39.5%)

Why didn't you just go full throttle and pick Allen West for VP or something. I forget, is he an option in 2012?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 14, 2013, 04:40:46 PM
Yeah, he is, but I thought winning as Bachmann would be difficult on its own. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 14, 2013, 05:32:05 PM
I started looking around for different scenarios, and I came upon a blog (http://scenarios.270soft.com/about/) that has plenty of them: mayoral, senatorial, gubernatorial... pretty much everything.  So I downloaded a Texas 2014 gubernatorial scenario.  I played on easy mode without the primary, and I led Perry throughout most of the game.  Somehow, Perry "won" because he had more "electoral votes" than me.  Don't know how the hell that works, but I ended up winning the popular vote at the end.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 15, 2013, 01:14:07 AM
Played it again, this time with the primary.  I thought Parker was certain to get the nomination thanks to his ten-point lead in the polls, but a series of concessions and horse-trading at the convention allowed me to clinch victory.  This time, I had a huge advantage over Perry from the start, who had come out of a fairly easy, yet brutal, Republican primary.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 15, 2013, 06:15:09 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 17, 2013, 08:49:55 PM
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I played on Medium as Tommy Lee Jones and lost in the primary (even though I was leading by a lot for most of the game then), but I was able to beat Perry/Straus by a very good margin with Kirk/Castro.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on September 21, 2013, 10:08:48 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Sec. of State Superique on September 26, 2013, 07:07:16 PM

Finally, Mr.Scott! You managed to win =)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 02, 2013, 10:13:45 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 03, 2013, 11:37:51 PM
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...I don't know what happened, but somehow I ended up running against every single Republican candidate for Governor of PA.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 04, 2013, 05:17:44 PM
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...I don't know what happened, but somehow I ended up running against every single Republican candidate for Governor of PA.
The State Convention must have been set for the wrong year. The primary just never ended. You can fix that in the candidate editor.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Enderman on October 05, 2013, 07:28:45 PM
So I decided to just get it and play a Martinez/McDonnell vs Biden/Hickenlooper vs Bloomberg/Hagel with me controlling Martinez and Biden just to make things interesting... Anyways, a few weeks before the debate I tinkered with Biden's Gay Marriage and a few other issues to the right two ticks just to shake thin's up... Now its two weeks before the Election and Martinez is surprisingly gaining momentum as with Biden amazingly... Bloomberg so far hasn't gained momentum even with Biden's slight leaning to the Center (or Centre for the Europeans)

Anyways here's the three weeks:

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Governor Susana Martinez R-NM/Governor Bob McDonnell R-VA 296 EVS (so far)
Vice President Joe Biden D-DE/Governor John Hickenlooper D-CO 193 (so far)
Tossup: 49 EV

Over the next week, I forgot to have Biden practice for the last debate, in which he utterly failed... but apparently without a drop in the polls! Yes that's right Biden/Hickenlooper jumped and picked up Washington, Oregon and New Hampshire! But right before the Final Debates I tapped Martinez's positions to the Right and Biden's to the left. (IIRC I tapped one to the center)
Also, I apparently struck Rhode Island's cord and its now a tossup! :D ??? :D Oh, and uh, I made Maine into Martinez's column...

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Governor Susana Martinez R-NM/Governor Bob McDonnell R-VA 291 EVS
Vice President Joe Biden/Governor John Hickenlooper D-CO 202 EVS
Tossup: 45

The final week I just had the Candidates and Veeps go to their candidate's states... and I tapped Martinez to the right on one or two issues...

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Governor Susana Martinez R-NM/Governor Bob McDonnell R-VA 317 EVS
Vice President Joe Biden D-DE/Governor John Hickenlooper D-CO 221 EVS

Obviously the biggest surprises were Rhode Island, New Hampshire, Maine, and Colorado... I definitely like it :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 16, 2013, 08:36:59 PM
Won with a character I created in the TX 2014 gubernatorial scenario.  I'll admit I tried skewing the game a bit with Wendy Davis because she's my first customized player, but it was a tough race even on easy mode.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on October 16, 2013, 10:33:00 PM
Where are ya'll getting the extra maps from


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on October 16, 2013, 10:38:24 PM
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TRUMPSLIDE

(My VP was Allen West)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kitteh on October 16, 2013, 10:39:22 PM

http://scenarios.270soft.com/category/p4e8/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on October 16, 2013, 11:22:37 PM

That might be the most glorious thing I've ever seen.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 20, 2013, 08:10:52 PM
I wanted to see what the map would look like if I ran the most conservative Democratic ticket against the most liberal Republican ticket.  Here's what happened.

2016

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Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Fmr. Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) - 322 EVs (54.8%)
Fmr. Senator Scott Brown (R-MA)/Fmr. Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) - 216 EVs (45.4%)

I thought Manchin would sweep the South and Brown would sweep the North, but it isn't too different from a 1992/96 map.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on October 20, 2013, 08:30:01 PM
I wanted to see what the map would look like if I ran the most conservative Democratic ticket against the most liberal Republican ticket.  Here's what happened.

2016

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Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV)/Fmr. Senator Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) - 322 EVs (54.8%)
Fmr. Senator Scott Brown (R-MA)/Fmr. Senator Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) - 216 EVs (45.4%)

I thought Manchin would sweep the South and Brown would sweep the North, but it isn't too different from a 1992/96 map.

Please... I ran Charles Mathias/Richard Schweiker v. George Wallace/Robert Byrd. Get on my level


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Flake on October 20, 2013, 09:17:52 PM
Does anybody know how to create a Texas scenario for the 2016 version?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 20, 2013, 09:28:00 PM
Does anybody know how to create a Texas scenario for the 2016 version?

You mean 2014?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Flake on October 20, 2013, 09:50:44 PM
Does anybody know how to create a Texas scenario for the 2016 version?

You mean 2014?

Yes, but I have President Forever 2016 :p


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 20, 2013, 09:54:05 PM
Does anybody know how to create a Texas scenario for the 2016 version?

You mean 2014?

Yes, but I have President Forever 2016 :p

You don't have to create a brand new scenario.  You can find the Texas scenario here. (http://scenarios.270soft.com/2012/10/21/texas-2014-gubernatorial/)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Flake on October 20, 2013, 10:32:43 PM
Does anybody know how to create a Texas scenario for the 2016 version?

You mean 2014?

Yes, but I have President Forever 2016 :p

You don't have to create a brand new scenario.  You can find the Texas scenario here. (http://scenarios.270soft.com/2012/10/21/texas-2014-gubernatorial/)

No, you don't understand. I can only play using the 2016 scenarios, not 2008. The programs using President Forever 2008 cannot be used on President Forever 2016.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 20, 2013, 11:10:36 PM
Does anybody know how to create a Texas scenario for the 2016 version?

You mean 2014?

Yes, but I have President Forever 2016 :p

You don't have to create a brand new scenario.  You can find the Texas scenario here. (http://scenarios.270soft.com/2012/10/21/texas-2014-gubernatorial/)

No, you don't understand. I can only play using the 2016 scenarios, not 2008. The programs using President Forever 2008 cannot be used on President Forever 2016.

Oh, I see what you mean.  Unfortunately, I don't know if or how you can play these scenarios on your version.  Have you tried contacting 270soft about this?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SteveRogers on October 20, 2013, 11:12:41 PM
Where are people finding scenarios with Bloomberg as an independent? Or did everyone just create him themselves?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on October 25, 2013, 08:20:59 PM
1988

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Evangelist Pat Robertson (R-VA)/Senator Jesse Helms (R-NC) - 323 (49.9%)
Governor Michael Dukakis (D-MA)/Senator Al Gore (D-TN) - 215 (41.2%)
Fmr. Congressman Ron Paul (L-TX)/??? - 0 (5%)
Activist Lenora Fulani (New Alliance-NY)/??? - 0 (3.9%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GAworth on October 27, 2013, 09:48:17 PM
I've downloaded the scenarios for New York City, how do I get them to run? Do I add them to a game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on November 03, 2013, 05:14:42 PM
1948: Democrat General Dwight Eisenhower curb-stomps Senator Robert Taft

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Former Chief of the Army Dwight Eisnehower (D-TX)/Senator Burton Wheeler (D-MT)  - 54.0%, 465 EV's
Governor Strom Thurmond (S-SC)/Governor Fielding Wright (S-MS) - 8%, 38 EV's
Senator Robert Taft (R-OH)/Governor Thomas Dewey (R-NY) - 35.5%, 28 EV's
Others - 2.4%

After a successful primary of unpopular President Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower faced Senator Robert Taft, a strong conservative, for the Presidency. On domestic issues, the two candidates didn't face too many differences. However, on foreign policy, the disagreement was fierce. Luckily for Dwight Eisenhower, his point of view won out, and he won on a large scale landslide.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 04, 2013, 12:51:09 PM
I've downloaded the scenarios for New York City, how do I get them to run? Do I add them to a game?

It should already be in your scenarios folder.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SteveRogers on November 05, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
This was a weird one.

2016. Computer on hard. Playing as Independent Donald Trump for the lolz.

The Democratic primary was pretty funny to watch. It was a hilariously closely divided race between Hillary, Biden, O'Malley, and Cuomo the whole way. After the last primary Cuomo and Biden dropped out and endorsed O'Malley.

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Businessman Donald Trump (I-NY)/ Former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK)-  25.5%; 241 EV
Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ)/ Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)- 27.8%; 162 EV
Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/ Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA)- 26.5%; 135 EV
Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/ Sec. Def. Chuck Hagel (R-NE)- 10.6%; 0 EV
Former Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Former Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN)- 5.2%; 0EV
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Ms. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)- 4.5%; 0 EV

The race was thrown to the Republican House which elected Chris Christie. It's sort of a shame the game doesn't say who the Democratic Senate picked as VP since they would only have a choice between Sarah Palin and Mike Lee.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Enderman on November 06, 2013, 06:23:03 AM
This was a weird one.

2016. Computer on hard. Playing as Independent Donald Trump for the lolz.

The Democratic primary was pretty funny to watch. It was a hilariously closely divided race between Hillary, Biden, O'Malley, and Cuomo the whole way. After the last primary Cuomo and Biden dropped out and endorsed O'Malley.

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Businessman Donald Trump (I-NY)/ Former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK)-  25.5%; 241 EV
Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ)/ Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)- 27.8%; 162 EV
Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/ Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA)- 26.5%; 135 EV
Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/ Sec. Def. Chuck Hagel (R-NE)- 10.6%; 0 EV
Former Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Former Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN)- 5.2%; 0EV
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Ms. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)- 4.5%; 0 EV

The race was thrown to the Republican House which elected Chris Christie. It's sort of a shame the game doesn't say who the Democratic Senate picked as VP since they would only have a choice between Sarah Palin and Mike Lee.

Well they could pick Ventura or Hagel. Interesting to see who would vote for who in the Senate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 06, 2013, 07:48:16 PM
Democratic primary 2008

Clinton
Obama
Edwards
Biden
Richardson
Kucinich
Dodd
Polnut - PA Gov

Obama drew first blood with a close win in Iowa, triggering Kucinich and Dodd to drop out. I won New Hampshire by 5% then proceeded to win Nevada and South Carolina - Clinton won Michigan and I won the equally useless Florida primary.

Super Tuesday was odd... Obama and I split the primaries and caucuses - I won Maine, Washington, Louisiana, Virginia, Maryland and DC... then Wisconsin and Hawaii... so you'd think I would have this locked up... then Edwards dropped out after Wisconsin, endorsing Obama. I worked to get Biden and Richardson's endorsement... but to no avail, they endorsed Obama. This all meant the tenuous holds I had across the rust belt and the remaining South was gone. I won Rhode Island and Vermont, Ohio was a sizeable Obama win and Texas was also a large loss for me.

It all came down to Clinton whose estimated 950 delegates would make all the difference... Obama won Mississippi and Wyoming... I was holding my own in Oregon, Pennsylvania - Kentucky, West Virginia and North Carolina were tied and Indiana was out of reach... unless Clinton withdrew and endorsed me.

The delegate estimates before the Pennsylvania primary were
Polnut - 1795
Obama - 1205
Clinton - 951

The week before the PA primary, I begged Clinton for endorsement - she rejected it, but offered withdrawal instead... I accepted hoping enough of her support would shift to me, but I was worried about the clear Obama momentum... I was right to be worried.

I won the PA primary 63-37% but the delegate count was now alarmingly close...
Polnut - 1994
Obama - 1957

The calendar for me looked grim... I was behind or tied in all the remaining states, except Montana and Oregon. The Clinton support surged Obama in WV, NC and put IN to bed.

IN
Obama: 66%
Polnut: 34%

NC (this state was tied before the Clinton support)
Obama: 57%
Polnut: 43%

WV (I had a small lead here before CS)
Obama: 55%
Polnut: 45%

... I was bleeding delegates... and in reality, it came down to Orgeon and Kentucky - I spent massively on ads, and sent my surrogates out in force... but

Delegate estimates
Polnut: 1976*
Obama: 1975

But Obamomentum was too much to control...

My lead in OR evaporated ...

KY (my campaigning has shifted this back in my direction... but)
Obama: 53%
Polnut: 47% ... not enough

OR (again a small Obama lead turned into a tie before... but)
Obama: 51%
Polnut: 49%

I ran hard over Montana and South Dakota... winning MN and him SD... but the damage was done...

Final delegate count
Obama: 1982
Polnut: 1969

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.... our relationship was considered 'bad' I offered endorsement, which he kept refusing - so I stayed on the trail... but he finally accepted my endorsement on July 6.

It should be noted, that in raw votes - I kicked Obama's backside... 55-45%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SteveRogers on November 08, 2013, 08:39:03 AM
This was a weird one.

2016. Computer on hard. Playing as Independent Donald Trump for the lolz.

The Democratic primary was pretty funny to watch. It was a hilariously closely divided race between Hillary, Biden, O'Malley, and Cuomo the whole way. After the last primary Cuomo and Biden dropped out and endorsed O'Malley.

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Businessman Donald Trump (I-NY)/ Former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK)-  25.5%; 241 EV
Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ)/ Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)- 27.8%; 162 EV
Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/ Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA)- 26.5%; 135 EV
Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/ Sec. Def. Chuck Hagel (R-NE)- 10.6%; 0 EV
Former Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Former Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN)- 5.2%; 0EV
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Ms. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)- 4.5%; 0 EV

The race was thrown to the Republican House which elected Chris Christie. It's sort of a shame the game doesn't say who the Democratic Senate picked as VP since they would only have a choice between Sarah Palin and Mike Lee.

Well they could pick Ventura or Hagel. Interesting to see who would vote for who in the Senate.

In the event there is no electoral college majority, the 12th amendment allows the House to pick from among the top 3 electoral vote earners, but the Senate can only pick from among the top 2 candidates for VP.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 08, 2013, 02:10:46 PM
1948

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Governor Earl Warren (R-CA)/Fmr. Governor Harold Stassen (R-MN) - 380 EVs (50.1%)
President Harry Truman (D-MO)/Senator Alben Barkley (D-KY) - 113 EVs (39.6%)
Governor Strom Thurmond (DX-SC)/Senator Burton Wheeler (DX-MT) - 38 EVs (8%)
Fmr. Vice President Henry Wallace (P-IA)/Thomas O'Brien (P) - 0 EVs (2.3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on November 14, 2013, 05:22:40 PM
Question for whoever has the 2012 version:
Do you find it hard to ever keep the General Election close, especially when you sim to the convention? Even on Hard, I find it incredibly difficult to lose. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 15, 2013, 01:42:31 PM
2008

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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI) - 464 EVs (60%)
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 74 EVs (36.7)
Mary Ruwart (Libertarian) - 0 EVs (.3%)
Chuck Baldwin (Constitution) - 0 EVs (3%)



Question for whoever has the 2012 version:
Do you find it hard to ever keep the General Election close, especially when you sim to the convention? Even on Hard, I find it incredibly difficult to lose. :P

I played Christie last night on that scenario and led Obama by a huge margin at the beginning of the game, but I was headed for a landslide defeat by the time the general election started.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on November 15, 2013, 02:53:48 PM
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Clinton/Gore- 34,119,898  291 EV  41.1%
Powell/Kemp- 34,343,113  247 EV  41.4%
Perot/Choate- 13,545,762  16.3%
Nader/LaDuke- 924,699 1.1%



I was the major unlikeable spoiler as Perot.  Drew 10% of the undecideds on Election Day after only having 6% through the election. Almost won Maine, Montana, and Wyoming after campaigning there hard.  Drew over 20% in Ohio and Florida, and got no less than 10% everywhere else.

Powell won the popular vote by over 200,000 but lost the EV by 40 some votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on November 15, 2013, 10:28:02 PM
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This was my first real game (had only toyed around with the demo and a primary before this) so I played on easy.  Playing version 2008 (seemed suggested by quite a few) I settled on the 1992 Campaign.  Deciding to change history a bit, I ran as Tsongas, and built momentum throughout the primaries.  I picked up an endorsement from the environmental group that is present in this campaign, and after winning New Hampshire began to take a legitimate lead in the primaries.  Some states I won simply by dumb luck, and what ultimately saved me was how fortunate I was in getting scandals on Clinton.  Most of the candidates that dropped out supported me, and I even ultimately garnered the support of Carter.  Even with this it ended up being far too close for comfort.  We carried the battle all the way to the convention, and I only had something like a one hundred delegate lead at that point.

After being chosen, I decided to be a good Missouri boy and picked Gephardt as my VP.  Being new, one issue I noticed is how chronically short on funds I was throughout the majority of the game.  I was running ads pretty consistently, and didn't go fundraising  as often as I probably should have, but it did seem ridiculous at times.  Any particular ways to change this?

The general election was volatile throughout, though I held a slim lead the majority of the time.  I ended up having a short truce with Perot to focus on Bush, but I'm unsure how much that helped.  I focused mainly on barnstorming and using foot soldiers, though I also made sure to get my issue knowledge and debate skills up.  Running ads when I could, I ended up running out of money at one point in a rather embarrassing debacle.  Scandals and spinning stories helped keep me afloat just as much as the direct actions of my candidates, if not more.

The first debates were tied, with Tsongas winning the last (which I spun as much as I could, of course).  IN the closing days of the campaign I ended up getting hit with a scandal and saw Bush gain momentum, putting New York and Ohio (just naming the most important ones) at risk.  I panicked, and probably would have lost had I not had a scandal and a bit of saved cash waiting in the wings.  I popped it, spun the story as much as I could, and barnstormed New York (my VP was sent to Florida, which I was I was incredibly close in).

Election night was pretty nerve wracking at first, with Bush looking do quite well for himself.  I didn't really feel too comfortable until I saw New York stay blue for more than a few seconds.  Whenever Ohio was called, I was pretty confident I had it in the bag.  Florida was a bit of a disappointment, and I only lost it by .8% points.  I actually liked the way the map ended up, with South Carolina being the only egregious offender.  While I gave it a lot of attention during the primaries, I don't think I returned once after that.  The fact that it went for me was kind of funny.  Maine also irritated me a bit but that was mostly because I wanted the northeast locked down.  Perot looked like he was going to get a bit more at one point, but alas it was not meant to be.  He came pretty close in a lot of Bush states.

ONe last thing that comes to mind is the fact that none of us broke 40% of the PV.  I had 38.9, Bush had a few increments over 37, and I think Perot had 23%.

Tsongas/Gephardt (D) EV 324    
Bush/Wilson (R) EV 207
Perot/Choate EV 7

Sorry for the terribly long post, but I do have to say I ended up having a ton of fun with the game.  It satisfies the political junkie within in a way I didn't think it would!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on November 16, 2013, 03:00:48 AM
1988:

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Kennedy/Gephart- 59,010,72  287 EV's  49.3%
Bush/Kemp- 55,907,978  251 EV's  46.7%
Paul/Means- 2,730,813  2.3%
Fullani- 2,116,127  1.8%



Ran as Kennedy, started in General Election. Trailed all the way but gained momentum through the election as I won both Presidential Debates, while Kemp won the VP for Bush. Focused on the big states, but I also campaigned in NC and the midwest, trying to pull of an upset.

And I'll be I sure did, what a shock because I did not campaign in any midwest state besides the Dakotas and Montana.  It sure got ugly between me and Bush.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on November 16, 2013, 11:28:22 PM
2012

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Former Governor Haley Barbour (R-MS)/Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 337 EVs (58.3%)
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 201 EVs (41.7%)

Somehow I managed to pull this off after losing the endorsements of the NRA, RNC, and several Republican governors to Obama.  A level-9 scandal in the last few days of the campaign gave me New York and Wisconsin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on November 17, 2013, 02:03:42 AM
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Nixon/Rockefeller- 32,508,330   439 EV's  54.3%
Kennedy/Humphrey- 26,689,575  89 EV's,  44.6%
Byrd/Thurmond- 666,518 8 EV's 1.8%


Played as Nixon here, got Nelson Rockefeller as VP instead of Lodge, Kennedy had HHH. Had a money edge on Kennedy but he tried to out-raise me. Me and Kennedy hated each other through the campaign but I rarely ran an attack, I took the high road and benefited. Dominated the Heartland and Northeast, did surprisingly well in Ohio and the South.  Didn't campaign hardly in the Southeast besides a little in Florida and Virginia.

Byrd took most of Kennedy's support instead of mine. Biggest win I have had in quite a while on here.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on November 22, 2013, 10:15:40 PM
2000 Scenario. Playing as John McCain. Default settings on hard.

Primary:

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John McCain - Blue - 1,423 Delegates
George W. Bush - Red- 564 Delegates
Other Candidates- 13 Delegates

General

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Note: In true John McCain style, I accepted federal funds.
Senator John S. McCain(R-AZ) / Governor George Pataki (R-NY) - 390 EV, 51.1% PV
Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) / Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT) -  148 EV, 46.6% PV
Advocate Ralph Nader (G-  ) /  Winona LaDuke  (G -  ) - 0 EV, 2.3% PV



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lumine on November 26, 2013, 01:46:21 AM
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Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-MN)/ Former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)- 50.3%; 423 EV
Pres. Barack Obama (D-IL)/ VP Joe Biden (D-DE)- 41.9%; 115 EV
Former Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Judge James Gray (L-CA)- 5.6%; 0EV
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Ms. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)- 1.3%; 0 EV
Former Rep. Virgil Goode (C-VA)/ Mr. Jim Clymer (C-PA)-  0.9%; 0 EV

Well... Focused on increasing debate atributes and raising money instead of competing in the early states, then launching a massive national assault after winning Minnesota. Got Romney and Gingrich to endorse me in May and I asked Santorum to be the VP (why not?). Then I kept raising money and attacked Obama with tons of newspaper and radio ads, quickly securing conservative states. Then I launched attacks on the swing and more liberal states, won all three debates and lost the VP one, and somehow Obama collapsed more and more to the point where I send Santorum to California and I won it by a mere 0.5%. Gary Johnson acted as a massive spoiler, since without him I might have won New Mexico, Oregon and Maine.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PPT Spiral on December 04, 2013, 01:12:04 AM
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I played 2004. I went as Colin Powell going against Dubya in the primaries. After winning Iowa and New Hampshire, I was eventually able to overcome his juggernaut of a campaign. The Democrats would have a much nastier slugfest, though. It eventually came down to John Edwards, Howard Dean, and John Kerry, with Edwards being near the nominee with only a few states left to go. However, at the last minute Kerry endorsed Dean, pulling him through even though Edwards won the most states and the popular vote. There wasn't much of a convention bump for them, and for the rest of the campaign Dean stayed in the low 30s, with me hovering in the high 50s. Come election day, I swept literally every single state, even DC by three points. Dominating.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Maxwell on December 04, 2013, 01:23:28 AM
Was D.C. your closest state?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PPT Spiral on December 04, 2013, 01:34:20 AM
Yep, followed by Hawaii with a five-point difference.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on December 04, 2013, 11:47:12 PM
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Playing the 2008 scenario with Bayh.

Only on medium, but I'm pretty proud of the results.  The hardest part of the entire game was facing Richardson during the nomination.  I turned all the big guys on both sides off, resulting in a Bayh vs Frist campaign.  Frist led me for a short while, but I pulled ahead and maintained my lead throughout.  After all was said and done I pulled in 66.3% of the popular vote.  Frist got 31.8% and Barr (who I enabled in the hopes of making the race interesting) only garnered 1.9%.  All in all it was a fun match, and I think it is time for me to step up to hard and try my luck.

Also, I must give props to the guy above me; I almost lost after removing the strongest opponents during the primaries.  Can't imagine taking on Bush in '04 and winning.

  


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 06, 2013, 08:15:15 PM
I had a very hard time playing as Huckabee in the primary in 2008, even on easy mode.  In fact, I had to remove Romney, Guiliani, and Thompson to even be competitive.  I was able to basically wrap things up by getting the endorsements of Paul (and Gingrich, who I added) in the middle of the race.  This is what the map looked like by the convention:

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Huckabee
McCain


And this is the general:

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Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 464 EVs (58.3%)
Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA) - 74 EVs (41.7%)

The closest state was Illinois.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on December 09, 2013, 09:49:03 PM
If I made a 2004 scenario would you all play it?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 09, 2013, 09:49:56 PM
If I made a 2004 scenario would you all play it?
Sure, the current 2004 scenario is almost impossible to win.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on December 09, 2013, 10:00:05 PM
If I made a 2004 scenario would you all play it?
Sure, the current 2004 scenario is almost impossible to win.

There's a current 2004 one? I'm talking about with President Forever 2016. I don't play President Forever 2008, its not as good --minus the editing the map itself feature.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Oakvale on December 16, 2013, 05:34:25 PM
I've been working on a 1972 scenario on and off in my spare time, but it, uh, clearly needs some tweaking -

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on January 20, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
I need to get the new update, my email isn't working when I request a download link.
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 20, 2014, 10:04:12 PM
2004 in Medium:

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Gore/Edwards:  61,230,744  53.5%  343 EV's
Bush/Cheney: 48,525,486 42.4% 195 EV's
Badnarik: 2,974,456 2.6%
Nader:   1,047,585  0.9%
Perotka: 666,885 0.6%


Ran a campaign focused on attack Bush for Leadership, Iraq, how Gore would fix the economy and the war on terror. Won Debate 1 and VP Debate, Bush won Town Hall, and tied the third debate.

Focused on Florida, Ohio, NC, and Virginia, yet won three states in the midwest... Interesting, I made Bush look like a child..


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on January 22, 2014, 09:28:06 PM
I ran with a Jeb Bush/Susana Martinez (R) ticket in the 2016 election against Hilary Clinton/Mark Warner (D), Gary Johnson/James Gray (L), and Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala (G).

Here is what happened.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on January 22, 2014, 11:28:55 PM
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Probably the weirdest map I've ever personally had.  Played as Obama on Hard.  I had played through the 2012 Scenario as Romney on Hard Difficulty and had crushed Obama, so I was expecting to have a hard fight ahead of me.  I tried to use scanadals to knock Romney out early on and potentially face someone weaker, but he ended up winning anyway (only funny thing out of all that was Perry winning Iowa).  My vast funds allowed me to air ads pretty much the entire game, which helped a lot.

I started to pull ahead towards the end, and finally went on the offensive in red states.  Came within a few percentage points in most of them.  The closest was by far Nebraska.  I ended up losing it by 318 votes. 

Final scores were:
Obama/Biden: 56.6% 402 EVs 
Romney/Ryan: 43.4% 136 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Dancing with Myself on January 23, 2014, 12:01:45 AM
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Gore/Obama-61,115,976 51.6% 322 EV's
McCain/Romney-53,649,206 45.3% 216 EV's
Badnarik-2,710,470 2.3%
Perotuka-1,001,665 0.8%


Ran as Gore in the 2008 scenario, picked Obama to unite party. Bombed the debates but won by focusing on Florida.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on January 24, 2014, 12:16:26 AM
Anyone have any advice running as a Republican in 2008 (on hard difficulty)?  Twice I've ran as Giuliani, and have gotten obliterated both times.  This last time I did much better in the primaries, having it locked up by February (though McCain decided to stick around).  After that I just get my skills up and raise money, prepare ads etc.  While I was a little behind by the time the Democratic Convention rolled around, it was only a few percentage points in key states.

Then as soon as the Republican Convention ends, I lose like 15% points nation wide.  Happened both times, and it is really frustrating.  Does platform matter more than I think and Giuliani has a bad one?  Is it just set up like this?  I didn't finish the first time, and only got 47 electoral votes this time around.  Clinton is just too tough for me to take down.

I noticed that playing the 2000 scenario as McCain had a similar drop post convention, though one that wasn't even close to being as severe.  I was actually able to pull away from that one and narrowly defeat Gore.  Clinton, not even close.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on January 24, 2014, 05:52:44 PM
I am running as Christie/Ayotte. I won the Republican nomination rather easily, and locked it up in March. It is currently May 5, 2016 and I am leading the polls across the country pretty good. I am leading the national vote 47.6%-44.6%, with 2.1 momentum. Gary Johnson is putting up a really good 3rd party bid, as he has 2.1% of the support right now. The Democrats nominated Andrew Cuomo in a very close primary between him and Joe Biden. Biden backed out, but could have forced a brokered convention if he had stood in the race. Cuomo, Biden, Clinton, and O'Malley were all seperated by only 5% for the majority of the race, but eventually Clinton and O'Malley would back out of the race. Here are what the polls look like in what are turning out to be the biggest swing states:

Washington:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 48.7%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 47.7%
Gary Johnson (L)-3.4%
Undecided: 0.1%

Nevada:
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 46.6%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R): 46.1%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.1%
Undecided: 5.2%

New Mexico:

Andrew Cuomo (D)- 42.3%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 41.5%
Gary Johnson (L)-1.6%
Undecided: 14.6%

Colorado:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 45.7%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 43.5%
Gary Johnson (L)-4.5%
Undecided: 6.3%

Missouri:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 48.4%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 46.3%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.8%
Undecided: 2.6%

Iowa:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.6%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 44.3%
Gary Johnson (L)-3.2%
Undecided: 2.9%

Wisconsin:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.7%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 46.4%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.4%
Undecided: 1.5%

Michigan:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 50.7%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 45.4%
Undecided: 1.4%

North Carolina:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 42.8%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 42%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.6%
Undecided: 12.6%

Virginia:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.8%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 47.4%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.1%
Undecided: 2.1%

New Jersey:
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 46.1%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 46%
Gary Johnson (L)-1.3%
Undecided: 6.6%

Pennsylvania:
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 49.8%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 46.5%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.8%
Undecided: 0.9%

Pennsylvania:
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 49.8%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 46.5%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.8%
Undecided: 0.9%

Maine:
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 51.6%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 44.7%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.7%
Undecided: 1%

Minnesota:
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 48.4%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 47%
Gary Johnson (L)-2.5%
Undecided: 2.1%

Here is how the electoral map is looking if the election was today:

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Gary Johnson is really making this into a strange race so far. He has about 3% of the popular vote in the polls in most states and is hurting my numbers a little bit, I may start to campaign against him soon (make ads focusing on him too, not just on Cuomo and I).

I'll post another update after the conventions are over.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on January 24, 2014, 10:59:26 PM
The conventions are over, and the official tickets are Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R), Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D), and Gary Johnson/Jesse Venutra (L). It is September 7, 2016 and the Republican ticket is dominating the polls across the country. The current national poll is Christie/Ayotte with 49.9%, Cuomo/Klobuchar are in second with 34.7%, Johnson/Ventura have 3.1% of the support, and 12.4% are undecided . The Republican ticket is leading in the polls in every single state except California, Illinois, Massachusetts, Rhode Island (Christie is only trailing by 4% in Rhode Island), Maryland and Delaware. The Democrats have not been able to rally their base so far in this election, as many of the undecided voters are in blue states. Christie is doing well in liberal strongholds, like New York, Maine, Vermont, Connecticut, among others, but it is unlikely he will be able win Vermont and Connecticut, unless he can convert the mostly Democrat-leaning undecideds. Cuomo is treading water in every state, even in District of Columbia. Let's take a look at the swing states, which still remain competitive thanks to the high number of undecided voters.


Washington:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 47.4%
Andrew Cuomo (D)/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 39.7%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-3.4%
Undecided: 9.5%

Nevada:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R): 47%
Andrew Cuomo (D)/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 41.5%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.6%
Undecided: 8.9%

New Mexico (Leaning Republican):
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.3%
Andrew Cuomo /Amy Klobuchar (D)- 35%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)- 7.3%
Undecided: 8.4%



Missouri:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 46.6%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 38.5%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.9%
Undecided: 12%


Wisconsin:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 50.8%
Andrew Cuomo /Amy Klobuchar (D) - 32%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.4%
Undecided: 14.8%

Michigan:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 50.6%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 42.4%
Undecided: 4.7%

North Carolina:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 47.9%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 33.6%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.9%
Undecided: 15.5%

Virginia:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 48.8%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar  (D)- 41.8%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.7%
Undecided: 6.8%

New Jersey:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.9%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 28.3%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-1.7%
Undecided: 20%

Pennsylvania:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 46.8%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar  (D)- 29.6%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-3.4%
Undecided: 20.3%

New York:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.7%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 36.5%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2%
Undecided: 11.8%

Maine:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 48.7%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)-47.6%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.3%
Undecided: 1.5%

Minnesota:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.3%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 43.9%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.5%
Undecided: 4.2%

Rhode Island:
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 46.2%
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 42.8%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.1%
Undecided: 8.9%

Connecticut (Leans Democratic):
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 39.4%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 25.1%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-3%
Undecided: 32.5%

Vermont:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 44.2%
Andrew Cuomo (D)- 31.3%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.3%
Undecided: 22.2%

Minnesota:
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 49.3%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 43.9%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L)-2.5%
Undecided: 4.2%

Hawaii (Likely Democratic):
Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R)- 36.2%
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D)- 33.8%
Gary Johnson/Jesse Venutra (L)-3.2%
Undecided: 26.7%

Here is the current nationwide electoral map according to updated poll data:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on January 25, 2014, 02:13:30 AM
Christie wins in landslide!

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Chris Christie accepting the Republican Party's nomination for President in August 2016


Final results:

Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R): 70,879,062 (54.4%)
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D): 55,350,689 (42.5%)
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L): 4,009,426 (3.1%)

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Christie/Ayotte (R): 385 electoral votes
Cuomo/Klobuchar (D): 153 electoral votes
Johnson/Ventura (L): 0 electoral votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Enderman on January 25, 2014, 01:01:05 PM
Try Ryan/Huntsman or Ayotte/Huntsman... I think it would be pretty cool... Also once when I was playing one game, it was Cuomo/Biden for the DNC ticket... It was crazy.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on January 25, 2014, 03:26:28 PM
Try Ryan/Huntsman or Ayotte/Huntsman... I think it would be pretty cool... Also once when I was playing one game, it was Cuomo/Biden for the DNC ticket... It was crazy.

It doesn't let me choose Ayotte has a candidate, she doesn't show up as an option.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Enderman on January 25, 2014, 09:32:06 PM
Try Ryan/Huntsman or Ayotte/Huntsman... I think it would be pretty cool... Also once when I was playing one game, it was Cuomo/Biden for the DNC ticket... It was crazy.

It doesn't let me choose Ayotte has a candidate, she doesn't show up as an option.

That's why there's this thing called candidate editor that's on the Main Menu... :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on January 26, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
Where are you guys getting this 2016 scenario (or is it for P4E 2012?).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: defe07 on January 27, 2014, 06:17:19 PM
Christie wins in landslide!

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Chris Christie accepting the Republican Party's nomination for President in August 2016


Final results:

Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R): 70,879,062 (54.4%)
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D): 55,350,689 (42.5%)
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L): 4,009,426 (3.1%)

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Christie/Ayotte (R): 385 electoral votes
Cuomo/Klobuchar (D): 153 electoral votes
Johnson/Ventura (L): 0 electoral votes

Could you please show how Gary Johnson did state by state?? :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on January 29, 2014, 03:35:43 PM
Christie wins in landslide!

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Chris Christie accepting the Republican Party's nomination for President in August 2016


Final results:

Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (R): 70,879,062 (54.4%)
Andrew Cuomo/Amy Klobuchar (D): 55,350,689 (42.5%)
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (L): 4,009,426 (3.1%)

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Christie/Ayotte (R): 385 electoral votes
Cuomo/Klobuchar (D): 153 electoral votes
Johnson/Ventura (L): 0 electoral votes

Could you please show how Gary Johnson did state by state?? :)

Sure, I'll post it later today, if I still have the game saved, which I might not.

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Christie/Ayotte (R): 385 electoral votes
Cuomo/Klobuchar (D): 153 electoral votes
Johnson/Ventura (L): 0 electoral votes
Landslide???

I thought it was, considering his 12% advantage in the popular vote, and winning the electoral college rather easily, including Democratic strongholds Washington, Oregon, Vermont, New Jersey and CT.  Christie only lost Minnesota, Illinois, Maine, and New York by less than 3%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on January 29, 2014, 09:48:21 PM
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First President Forever 2016 game I've played.  I played the demo awhile ago, but ended up getting 2008 instead (the learning curve of 2016 had pushed me away a bit).  Finally decided to get 2016, and I'm glad I did.  This was on medium difficulty.

Fairly uneventful game, honestly.  Clinton does get hit with a ton of scandals during the primaries, causing both Cuomo and Biden to lead in various states at random points.  Still, I built up my campaign, nabbed endorsements and ran ads in the early states and ultimately won in Iowa.  After that, my nomination was essentially sealed.  The Republican nomination was actually pretty interesting.  It came down to Christie and Ryan, with Ryan winning by only two delegates.

After Super Tuesday, I started to focus on the GE.  I trailed the Republicans at first, but by June or so I was tied or ahead in the states that mattered, and by the time of the convention I was set to win comfortably.  After the convention the remainder of the game was all about widening my margin of victory.  On election day, I had an impressive campaign operation all across the nation and was running a constant barrage of ads against Ryan.

All in all it was a pretty fun game, and I'm looking forward to seeing what else 2016 has to offer.

Clinton EV: 470 PV: 65.8%
Ryan EV: 68 PV: 34.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fed. Pac. Chairman Devin on February 03, 2014, 02:02:52 AM
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Did this with Barry Goldwater. I beat Johnson in Texas by a little over 3k votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on February 04, 2014, 12:49:37 PM
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Ran as Rockefeller in the 1968 beta, hard difficulty.  The primaries were rather close, with Nixon and I battling it out (Reagan won a few states as well).  After I clinched the nomination, I chose Senator Chase from New Jersey as my running mate, forming a Northeastern Republican ticket.  This one was rather easy for the Republicans, as I don't think there was one point where we didn't hold a lead. 

I ran against Kennedy in the general, who had picked his brother as his VP candidate.  Wallace was around, but his presence was negligible.

 Rockefeller/Chase: 450 EV 51% PV
Kennedy/Kennedy: 55 EV 34.6% PV
Wallace/Chandler: 33 EV 14.4% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 13, 2014, 06:56:04 PM
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1968

Robert F. Kennedy/Edmund Muskie - 398EV - 46.7%
Richard M. Nixon/Spiro Agnew- 101EV - 37.5%
George Wallace/Curtis LeMay - 39EV -15.8%

Interesting note - Kennedy broke 60% in MA and RI, Wallace did it in AL and Nixon didn't break 60% anywhere. Nixon's best result was 58.8% in Wyoming.

Nebraska was Kennedy's worst state where he received 22%, Nixon's was Alabama, where he received 13% and Wallace's (where he was on the ballot) was Maine, where he received 2.4% of the vote.

The closest state was South Dakota, which went to Kennedy by 265 votes, or 0.1%.

Wallace's main rival in the South was Kennedy, not Nixon, with Nixon in third place in LA, AR, MS, SC and GA (Wallace won GA 38.3% to Kennedy's 37.9%).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on February 17, 2014, 09:58:23 AM
I did some editing to add in Third and Fourth Parties for Ron Paul and Jon Huntsman in 2012, strange thing is, I as Paul managed to nearly get 30 in Alaska and New Hampshire, though that was another game I've forgotten, this was just a  handsoff one as the Libertarians (Ironic)

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Barack Obama(D,IL)/Joe Biden(D/DE): 256 EV 37.6%

Rick Santorum(R,PA)/John Thune(R,SD): 238 EV, 35.7%

Ron Paul(I,TX)/Dennis Kucinich(I,OH): 238 EV, 15.9%

Jon Huntsman(I,UT)/Kelly Ayotte(I,NH): 6 EV, 9.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potus on February 18, 2014, 01:39:34 AM
Where is a good place to find older elections? Like, I'd love(LOVE) to play as George Romney. Where can I find all of these mods?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on February 18, 2014, 08:22:50 AM
Where is a good place to find older elections? Like, I'd love(LOVE) to play as George Romney. Where can I find all of these mods?
Well, the 1968 Mod comes with the new update, also here's the scenarios page. http://campaigns.270soft.com/category/president_forever_2016/ (http://campaigns.270soft.com/category/president_forever_2016/)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on February 19, 2014, 12:33:33 PM
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Governor Christopher James Christie (NJ)/Governor Brian David Schweitzer (MT) - Republican Party - 475 Electoral Votes - 57.1%
Senator Mark Robert Warner (VA)/Governor Jay Inslee (WA) - Democratic Party - 63 Electoral Votes - 42.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on February 25, 2014, 05:17:20 PM
I dug up an old P4E 2004 Scenario about Ross Perot.

Bush/Rice vs. Gore/Clinton vs. Perot/Stockdale(Me)

Did pretty well.
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And the map version.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vega on February 25, 2014, 09:11:25 PM
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Decided to dust off President Forever 2008; and played the 04 election with Bush and Kerry + Nader.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on February 26, 2014, 04:07:44 PM
From a PF2004 Scenario

Mr T/Rudy Giluani:191 EV, 36%

Evan Bayh/Wesley Clark:136 EV, 32%

Jesse Ventura/John McCain:211 EV, 31% (Me)

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on March 01, 2014, 12:19:33 PM
DAMN YOU ROSS PEROT! :P
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on March 09, 2014, 12:52:13 PM
I posted the results for this on another site, 2012 as Donald Trump, amazed I actually won, I was behind Romney by like 15 Points in the Primaries, but I managed to get both Cain and Paul to endorse me in the final Hurdle, and Romney finally conceded.

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Donald Trump(R,NY)/Susana Martinez(R,NM):269 EV, 54.5%

Barack Obama(D,IL)/Joe Biden(D,DE):269, 45.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MadmanMotley on March 25, 2014, 06:23:19 PM
1948:
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Robert Taft/Earl Warren 63.1% 493EV
Harry Truman/Alben Barkley 31.7% 0EV
Strom Thurmond/Fielding Wright 2.5% 38EV
Henry Wallace/Glen Taylor 2.7% 0EV

Played as Taft, Truman led in most southern states where he was on the ballot, but on election night I stomped on him.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on March 29, 2014, 06:44:11 AM
Played as Baron Hill from the general in the Indiana 2010 scenario, I wouldn't recommend it.

Rep. Baron Hill: 967, 856 (50.5%)
Fmr. Sen Dan Coats: 948,481 (49.5%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on April 08, 2014, 02:38:53 PM
Decided to throw a bone to Republicans and Edited in John Cornyn 2012, the results of that? Terrifying, to say the least.
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John Cornyn/Chris Christie:499 EV, 63.3% (Rep)
Barack Obama/Joe Biden:39 EV, 35.6% (Dem)

All hail masterlord Cornyn!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potatoe on April 21, 2014, 10:37:55 AM
Oh, if only :(

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Bill White/Paul Sadler (D): 50.9% (11,034)
Greg Abbott/Tom Leppert (R): 49.1% (10,637)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on June 09, 2014, 09:22:42 AM
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Governor Christopher James Christie (NJ)/Senator Robert Jones Portman (OH) - 296 Electoral Votes, 47.6%
Governor Andrew Mark Cuomo (NY)/Senator Cory Anthony Booker (NJ) - 242 Electoral Votes, 46.7%
Governor James George Janos (MN)/Mr. James Polin Gray (CA) - 0 Electoral Votes, 4.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 16, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
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Former Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Former Secretary of State Collin Powell (I-NY): 434 Electoral Votes, 55.60% of the popular vote.
President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): 104 Electoral Votes, 40.00% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Mr. Peter Camejo (I-CA): 2.10% of the popular vote.
Mr. Michael Peroutka (C-MD)/Mr. Chuck Baldwin (C-FL): 1.20% of the popular vote.
Mr. Michael Badnarik (L-TX)/Mr. Lance Brown (L-CA): 1.10% of the popular vote.

I started off as Colin Powell in the Republican primaries. Despite the usual low polling, I followed the strategy outlined for Jon Huntsman in an earlier thread here and used it to win Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina. I at one point had double Bush’s delegates, but Bush pulled a scandal on me and took Illinois (where my twenty point lead deteriorated over two weeks), shattering my strong momentum. I struggled on, and as the later primaries came around, I lost all remaining momentum and Bush reclaimed the nomination. After two to three weeks of constant requests to be Dean’s running mate, I finally was accepted on to the ticket. During this time I dumped my remaining scandals and ran nationwide ads, and when I finally joined the ticket with Dean, his polls went from down ten points to leading by ten points.

On the Democratic side, Lieberman of all people was leading and won most of the primaries, with Edwards and Dean fighting for second. Weeks before the DNC, Edwards dropped out and endorsed Dean, putting him over the top. Lieberman dropped out and endorsed Dean just before I joined the ticket.

I won most states by ~15%, and most of Bush’s states were close. Bush won Oklahoma and Alabama by margins of 0.1%, and Utah and Colorado were won by 6%. I expected a higher performance from the third party candidates after I unleashed a strong ad attacking Bush on Iraq and a medium scandal. On the whole, the Libertarians and Constitutionalists didn’t break higher than 2% in any states, though Nader won 5.2% in California and averaged 2-3% everywhere else.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 22, 2014, 12:31:02 AM
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Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR)/Senator Rob Portman (R-OH): 285 Electoral Votes, 47.9% of the popular vote.
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY): 253 Electoral Votes, 50.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Wayne Allan Root (L-NV)/Mr. R. Lee Wrights (L-TX): 1.60% of the popular vote.
Mrs. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mr. Kent Mesplay (G-CA): 0.10% of the popular vote.
Former Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Jim Clymer (C-PA): 0.10% of the popular vote.

Fun game this was. Started out as Huckabee in the NV Gonzalez 2012 scenario and built a massive lead up in Iowa and South Carolina, and preceded to completely clear the field out by March. I also was able to get a few high profile scandals that I released fairly frequently and quickly built my pre-convention funds to massive levels, which allowed me to run negative ads. I still trailed Obama throughout the race, though in October I was able to force ties in Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, and Wisconsin. For whatever reason, Ohio was never close and I maintained a ten point lead.

The closest state was by far New Hampshire, which Obama won by 950 votes. Despite Johnson losing the Libertarian nomination, Wayne Allan Root performed well in most states, breaking over 1% in every state and taking 5% in New Hampshire (which is why Obama probably won it, despite my lead).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on July 13, 2014, 11:59:38 PM
1960:

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√ Sen. Hubert H. Humphrey (D-MN)/Sen. Lyndon Johnson (D-TX): 399 EVs, 32,383,432 PVs (54.1%)
Vice Pres. Richard Nixon (R-CA)/Sen. Everett Dirksen (R-IL): 137 EVs, 26,925,053 PVs (45.0%)
Sen. Harry F. Byrd (Dixiecrat-VA)/Sen. Strom Thurmond (Dixiecrat-SC): 0 EVs, 502,599 PVs (0.8%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on July 24, 2014, 06:29:59 PM
I played the 2008 map on President Forever 2016, with Bill Richardson. All candidates were turned on.

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Bill Richardson - Yellow, 2028 delegates
Barack Obama - Red, 2006 delegates
Hillary Clinton - Blue, 0 delegates  (endorsed Richardson I believe)
Al Gore - Green, 0 delegates
Arizona, Utah was won by Wesley Clark, Missouri was won by John Edwards and John Kerry took Michigan.

On the Republican side, Mitt Romney swept --beating every candidate (all were on).

I did finish the game, but I only have it saved at the end of the primaries :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fed. Pac. Chairman Devin on July 24, 2014, 10:34:45 PM
Can someone tell me how to post the maps?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 25, 2014, 12:33:02 PM
You use the Electoral Vote Calculator (https://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/evcalc.php), and when you are finished, you press "Show Map Link." You copy and paste whatever is in the box, and post it on the forum where it will show up as a map. I hope this helps :).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on July 27, 2014, 06:55:20 PM
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Fmr. Governor Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM), 271 Electoral Votes, 49.4%
Fmr. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Mark Warner (D-VA), 267 Electoral Votes, 49.2%
Fmr. Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Fmr. Governor Jesse Ventura (L-MN), 0 Electoral Votes, 1%
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA)/Mrs. Cheri Honkala (G-PA), 0 Electoral Votes, .4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MATTROSE94 on September 04, 2014, 10:29:51 AM
Here is what I got for 2008 while playing as Hillary Clinton:
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): 416 Electoral Votes 53.9%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ)/Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK): 122 Electoral Votes 44.4%
Others (Libertarian, Green): 0 Electoral Votes 1.7%

I still don't know how I ended up winning Alaska, Kentucky, West Virginia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas and Mississippi while at the same time losing Missouri, Louisiana and Montana.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: MATTROSE94 on September 05, 2014, 09:09:55 AM
Tis is what I got when playing as Obama against Rick Santorum
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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE): 398 Electoral Votes 54.8%
Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Congressman Paul Ryan (R-WI): 140 Electoral Votes 43.3%
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Mr. James Gray (L-CA): 0 Electoral Votes 1.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 07, 2014, 09:30:14 PM
1968
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President Lyndon Johnson (D-TX)/Vice President Hubert Humphrey (D-MN): 457 Electoral Votes, 48.6% of the popular vote.
Governor George Romney (R-MI)/Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA): 36 Electoral Votes, 33.9% of the popular vote.
Former Governor George Wallace (AIP-AL)/Governor Happy Chandler (AIP-KY): 45 Electoral Votes, 14.4% of the popular vote.
Mr. Carl Oglesby (PF-MI)/Mr. Benjamin Spock (PF-CT): 3.1% of the popular vote.

Lots of close states….
New Mexico: 56 vote difference.
North Dakota: 60 vote difference.
Wyoming: 92 vote difference.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on September 12, 2014, 08:55:22 PM
Did an Obama/Santorum simulation, played as Johnson and did almost no campaigning. To ensure that any change in results came only from Santorum, I made him have Ryan as his running mate. Obama won the popular vote 51.8-46.4-1.7. (Yeah, somehow I got better than rl results for Johnson without even trying)

This was the map. Looks okay, right?:
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But the list of margins in close states looks just bizarre:

States won by Obama by less than 10 points:
Florida - 0.8%
Nevada - 1.9%
Ohio - 2.2%
Colorado - 2.3%
Virginia - 3.3%
Iowa - 4.8%
Washington - 4.9%
Pennsylvania - 5.4%
Wisconsin - 5.4%
Michigan - 7.2%
Oregon - 7.5%
New Hampshire - 7.5%
North Carolina - 8.1%
New Mexico - 9.9%

States won by Santorum by less than 10 points:
Missouri - 3.4%
Arizona - 4.3%
Arkansas - 4.5%
Montana - 6.6%
Georgia - 8.0%
Indiana - 9.1%
West Virginia - 9.7%











Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on September 14, 2014, 05:40:08 PM
Playing through my 2004 scenario.

George W. Bush gets primaried by Senator John McCain. Colin Powell starts off as "undecided" on running.

For the Democrats, John Kerry, Howard Dean, Joe Lieberman, Wesley Clark, Dick Gephardt, and John Edwards are all turned on. Al Gore is turned on as "undecided"

Ralph Nader is on. I will play as my "Observer" candidate which does nothing.

GOP Primaries:

Nov 2003 - George W. Bush starts off with a full map in his favor.

Nov 2003 - Powell decides against running.

Jan 2004 - Bush leads big in both Iowa and NH..66% - 15% against McCain.

Iowa Result - Bush wins 70-30

New Hampshire - Bush wins 72-28

After Super Tuesday in March...Bush has 822 delegates to McCain's 44...Bush leads nationally 74.6% to McCain's 23.7%...


Democratic Primaries:


Nov 2003 - If Gore jumps in, he'll have a 10% lead over Dean with the others trailing behind, but not too far behind.

Dec 2003 - Gore jumps in. Gore still ahead, the others are catching up.

Jan 2004 - Gore is at 26.7% and leads in IA, SC, NV (barely in IA & NV). Dean is at 17.1%. Edwards leads in NH 41.3%-22.2% for Kerry.

Iowa Result - Kerry wins Iowa (24%) to Dean's 20.1%. Gephardt in third for 20%, Edwards at 19.9%...Gore at 12%...Clark at 2.1% and Lieberman at 2%.

New Hampshire - Kerry wins 23.8% to Clark's 22.7%...Edwards 17.7%...Lieberman 16.8%...Gore 7.3%...Dean 7%...Gephardt 5%...

After Super Tuesday: Gore has 467 delegates, 21.8% polling...Kerry 225 del, 16.6%....Dean 112 del, 14.7%....Gephardt (took California) 292 del, 12.5%...Clark, Lieberman and Edwards all have 80ish delegates...9-12% in the polls...Gephardt endorses Kerry soon after.

Mid March - Kerry pulls ahead w/ 30.7% polling and 1,675 delegates. Dean, Lieberman and Edwards all also drop out and (I think) endorse Kerry...


The General

Bush cruises to renomination ultimately winning over 80% of the popular vote. He switches up his VP and picks Colin Powell.

Kerry wins the nomination and selects Senator Diane Feinstein as his running mate. In August 2004, the GOP leads the Democrats 46.1% - 31.8% and 389 EV to 80 EV.

October:

The GOP maintains their lead despite Kerry winning all the debates.

November:

On the eve of election...

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Bush leads 50.9% to 36.9% and 359 to 179.

Election Results

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President George W. Bush / Secretary of State Colin Powell - 58.3% popular vote, 355 electoral votes
Senator John Kerry / Senator Diane Feinstein - 40.7% popular vote, 183 electoral votes
Ralph Nader - 0 electoral votes, 0.9% popular vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on September 15, 2014, 11:09:21 PM
My Obama/Bachmann simulation resulted in an Obama win as expected, but the map may shock you:

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Obama/Biden: 293 ; 51% (PV)
Bachmann/Jindal: 245 ; 47.2%
Johnson/Gray (me, no campaigning): 0 ; 1.8%

States won by Obama by less than 10%:
Oregon: 1.0%
Wisconsin: 2.9%
Missouri: 3.3%
New Hampshire: 3.6%
Minnesota: 7.3%
Washington: 9.5%


States won by Bachmann by less than 10%:
Virginia: 0.6%
Colorado: 1.1%
Indiana: 5.1%
Montana: 5.7%
Georgia: 6.7%
West Virginia: 7.1%
Arizona: 7.3%
North Carolina: 8.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Incipimus iterum on September 16, 2014, 10:20:24 AM
I've been wondering if there was a 1904 or 1912 Scenario for President Forever 2008?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on September 16, 2014, 11:47:37 AM
Doing this one from memory, so it may be a bit off but y'all will get the general jest

United States presidential election, 1912

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Wilson - 207
Taft - 196
Roosevelt - 128

Played as Taft in this scenario.

Since I knew I had an uphill battle in this scenario, I decided to go very negative for my campaign strategy.  I originally had two of my theme planks set to negatives - attacking Roosevelt on conservation and Wilson on tariffs.  My original goal was to avoid a 3rd place finish, but as the campaign went on I figured that Roosevelt was more of a friend than an enemy as long as he kept Wilson from winning states in the West.  So, I switched my theme to 2/3 planks being anti-Wilson and that's when the momentum really began to change.  In a somewhat strange happening, I was endorsed by labor unions while Wilson won the support of Tammany Hall.  On election eve, I was projected to finish with more than 270 electoral votes despite still being 8-10 points behind Wilson in the popular vote.  As results came in though, I suffered surprise losses in NY and IL which allowed Wilson to finish ahead of me.  Still the fact that I almost won an outright majority in the electoral college with only apprx. 35% of the popular  vote would have been pretty legit haha.  It goes to the House, which apparently is in Republican control.   


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on September 20, 2014, 12:28:52 PM
A battle of two (fairly) weak tickets results in the electoral loser winning the popular vote:


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Alan Grayson (D-FL)/Martin O'Malley (D-MD) - 312 Electoral Votes; 49.7%
Ben Carson (R-MI)/Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 226 Electoral Votes; 49.9%
Jill Stein (G-MA)/Cheri Honkala (G-PA) - 0 Electoral Votes; 0.4%

I played as Stein and did nothing, but ended up causing Grayson's loss in the popular vote.

States won by Grayson by less than 10%:
Michigan: 0.6%
North Carolina: 2.0%
Iowa: 2.4%
Pennsylvania: 4.1%
Washington: 4.3%
Minnesota: 5.4%
Ohio: 6.1%
Maine: 7.9%
Colorado: 8.4%
California: 9.5%

States won by Carson by less than 10%:
Oregon: 0.3%
Virginia: 0.8%
Missouri: 4.2%
New Mexico: 5.2%
Nevada: 8.4%


(New Hampshire has the distinction of having a margin of exactly 10%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 22, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
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All hail Lord Gore in his redeeming victory!

Gore/Dodd - 463
Romney/Huckabee - 75


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on September 22, 2014, 08:40:15 PM
Weirdest... result...

So I started in primaries in 2008... I won got off to a good start by winning IA, NH... Richardson won NV. Obama won SC, I won the empty FL primary and Clinton won MI.

Super Tuesday rolled around. I won MO, MN, TN, CA, NJ, MA... Clinton won a few things here (inc NY, but only beat me there by 2%) and there and Obama won the rest. It settled into a fairly close three-way race... all the way to late May, when Clinton dropped out an endorsed me.

In early July, I picked Obama as my running-mate.

Early on, I started to see what was going to be my problem. I was very popular in the Democratic states, not incredibly unpopular in the solid GOP states and very unsteady in the swing states. I also had a massive money advantage over Romney.

To give an example - I had 20%+ leads in CA, IL and the Northeast (except Delaware for some reason). Those leads only grew. Whereas I never had a clear lock on any of the swing states.

In the weirdest outcomes... the states that finally decided the election... were KS and AK.

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Me/Obama - 267 EV  - 54.1%
Romney/Giuliani - 271 EV - 45.2%
Others - 0.7%

So behold... I won the national vote by more than 10,000,000 and lost the presidency by 365 votes in AK and 1659 in KS. I lost DE (!) by 2464 votes.

To give you an idea of how weird this was...

Texas
Romney - 53.6%
Me - 45.9%

Connecticut
Me - 74.3%
Romney - 24.8%

States with margins of below 2%
KS, AK, DE, NM, FL

States decided by 2-5%
IN, VA, WV, IA, WI, NV, CO, MI, TN

To further demonstrate... I'm going to show you polling at 4 weeks, 2 weeks,1 week and 2 days out to show you how nuts this was...

4 Weeks out
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PV Polling:
Me - 49.5%
Romney - 47.5%

2 weeks out
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PV Polling:
Me - 51.7%
Romney - 46.3%

- This represented a surge for Romney in the swing states and my numbers in solid GOP states moving up

One week out...

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PV Polling
Me: 52%
Romney: 46%

Romney continued to slide in solid states, but we tussled for the swing states... it finally looked like I had this.

Two days out
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Me: 53.2%
Romney: 45%
... you can see my frustration, I am throwing EVERYTHING at OH, FL, IA, CO and NV to swing the EC vote back to see. I can see my vote hitting the 60s in CA, IL and the mid-late 60s in MA, RI, CT and NY... but I'm down by tiny margins where it matters. And Romney was able to hold those leads and presents an election for the history books.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 23, 2014, 09:13:56 AM
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Howard Dean/Wesley Clark - 364 Electoral Votes
George Bush/Dick Cheney - 174 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 27, 2014, 11:06:01 PM
2000
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Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ)/Governor Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH): 428 Electoral Votes, 53.8% of the popular vote.
Governor George Bush (R-TX)/Former Governor Lamar Alexander (R-TN): 110 Electoral Votes, 41.1% of the popular vote.
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Mrs. Winona LaDuke (G-MN): 3.2% of the popular vote.
Mr. Pat Buchanan (RF-DC)/Congressman Virgil Goode (RF-VA): 2.0% of the popular vote.

Curbstomped Gore in the primaries, and somehow managed to beat Bush in a huge landslide. I don’t understand Utah or Texas, or how Buchanan got 13% in Vermont.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 30, 2014, 02:21:43 PM
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State Senator Richard Codey - 49.3%
Mayor Steve Lonegan - 34.9%
Dr. Murray Sabrin - 7.5%
Governor Jim McGreevey - 8.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 05, 2014, 08:25:44 PM
Played as Bloomberg, sat back and watched a Cruz/Castro matchup, and was massively surprised:

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Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Rand Paul (R-KY): 365
Julian Castro (D-TX)/Amy Klobuchar (D-MN): 173
Michael Bloomberg: 0


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on October 07, 2014, 10:43:33 PM
And here's another amazing scenario:

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Sarah Palin/Mike Lee - 324 (53%)
Hillary Clinton/Julian Castro - 214 (47%)
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala - 0 (<1%)

States won by Sarah Palin by less than 10%
Rhode Island - 0.1%
Colorado - 1.5%
Wisconsin - 1.9%
Delaware - 3.5%
Maine - 4.6%
Ohio - 4.8%
Nevada - 5.2%
Oregon - 5.9%
New Mexico - 8.9%
Virginia - 9.5%
New Hampshire - 9.6%

States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10%
Washington - 0.7%
Minnesota - 1.3%
Illinois - 2.3%
Michigan - 2.8%
New Jersey - 7.1%
Connecticut - 7.4%
New York - 9.0%
Pennsylvania - 9.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on October 08, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
Played as Cuomo/Richards in 1992 and crushed Bush. Heh.

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Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Ann Richards (D-TX): 482 EVs, 48,135,826 PVs (43.7%)
Ross Perot (I-TX)/James Stockdale (I-CA): 56 EVs, 31,501,973 PVs (28.6%)
George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Colin Powell (R-NY): 0 EVs, 30,459,065 PVs (27.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on October 10, 2014, 09:42:09 AM
^impressive


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on October 13, 2014, 03:26:42 PM
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Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on October 15, 2014, 08:55:22 AM
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Senator Rafael "Ted" Cruz (R-TX)/Governor Timothy Pawlenty (R-MN): 399 EVs, 71,118,797 PVs (55.3%)
Vice President Joseph Biden (D-DE)/Senator Timothy Kaine (D-VA): 139 EVs, 57,598,682 PVs (44.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 15, 2014, 02:42:07 PM
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Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)
What scenario is this? Is for PFE 2008 or the new version?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on October 15, 2014, 03:38:00 PM
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Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)
What scenario is this? Is for PFE 2008 or the new version?
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 15, 2014, 04:31:49 PM
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Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Fmr. Sen. Scott Brown (R-NH/MA): 307 EVs, 94,634,694 PVs (51.7%)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)/Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC): 231 EVs, 88,411,136 PVs (48.3%)
What scenario is this? Is for PFE 2008 or the new version?
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Is the scenario available for download? I can't find any good scenarios that I don't already have.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 15, 2014, 06:52:16 PM
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1948

Truman/Barkley - 276 EV - 45.1%
Dewey/Warren - 217 EV - 43.2%
Thurmond/Wright - 38 EV - 8.6%
Wallace/Taylor - 0 EV - 3.1%

Nothing I could do could help me in the west. But I over-performed in the Mid-Atlantic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on October 19, 2014, 10:09:04 AM
I played President Infinity as Bill Richardson in 2008 on hard

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Bill Richardson (Yellow) - 2266 Delegates (2028 to win)
Hillary Clinton (Blue) - 1 Delegate
Barack Obama (Red) - 1788 Delegates

John Edwards, Joe Biden, Chris Dodd and Dennis Kucinich all dropped out without winning any states.

On the Republican primary side, Mitt Romney defeated his chief rival, John McCain.

As of July 4th, here's how the map looks for the general.

Note: I used the 2012 map accidentally.

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Note: I used the 2012 map accidentally

Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) - 266 Electoral Votes, 44.1%  Popular Vote
Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) -  272 Electoral Votes, 41.5% Popular Vote

On the eve of the elction

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Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) - 285 Electoral Votes, 52.1%  Popular Vote
Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) -  253 Electoral Votes, 44.5% Popular Vote


Results!!
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Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM)/Rep. Chet Edwards (D-TX) - 355 Electoral Votes, 53.3%  Popular Vote
Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) -  183 Electoral Votes, 44.5% Popular Vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on November 02, 2014, 07:52:30 PM
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Gov. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)/Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA) - 271 EV, 35.1% PV
Pres. Ross Perot (I-TX)/VP Jerry Brown (I-CA) - 186 EV, 34.2% PV
Sen. Al Gore (D-TN)/Sen. Bob Kerrey (D-NE) - 81 EV, 30.7% PV

A mere 2,000 votes in Alaska seperated a Carroll win overall from it being sent to Congress. Phun.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on November 05, 2014, 10:51:52 PM
Speaking of Perot...

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Mr. Ross Perot (I-TX)/Mr. Pat Choate (I-TX): 420 Electoral Votes, 42,418,092 Popular Votes (38.5%)
Pres. George Bush (R-TX)/Gov. Pete Wilson (R-CA): 84 Electoral Votes, 35,944,656 Popular Votes (32.6%)
Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY): 34 Electoral Votes, 31,734,117 Popular Votes (28.8%)

Only got a "Slick" rating. >:(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: New_Conservative on November 11, 2014, 05:21:05 PM
CLINTON DISASTER
Bush wins thanks to strong showings from third party candidates.

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Bush after becoming the President-elect of the United States on Tuesday night


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Gov. Jeb Bush/Sen. Rick Santorum (R) - 49% 66,208,970 (472 electoral votes)
Sec. Hilary Clinton/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D) - 34.5% 46,606,450 (66 electoral votes)
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Sec. Chuck Hagel (I) - 11.1% 14,933,744 (0 electoral votes)   
Gov. Gary Johnson/Gov. Jesse Ventura (L) - 2.8% 3,766,421 (0 electoral votes)
 Dr. Jill Stein/Mrs. Cheri Honkala (G) - 2.6% 3,500,262 (0 electoral votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on November 11, 2014, 08:21:59 PM
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Gov. Chris Christie/Gov. Susana Martinez - 44% 59,700,140 (320 EV)
Gov. Martin O'Malley/Sen. Kristen Gillibrand - 39% 52,116,227 (213 EV)
Gov. Gary Johnson/Gov. Jesse Ventura - 5% 6,501,123 (5 EV)
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Sec. Chuck Hagel - 12% 15,637,172 (0 EV)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on November 30, 2014, 09:53:23 PM
DEMOCRATIC WIPEOUT!
Republicans take Presidency, Senate in enormous landslide on Tuesday night
Strong showing from third party candidate John Anderson, with nearly 9% of the vote
Reagan holds Carter below 50% in D.C.!


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A triumphant Ronald Reagan greets supporters after being elected President of the United States on Tuesday night.

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Fmr. Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Frm. CIA Director George Bush (R-TX) - 535 EVs, 55,689,852 PVs (63.4%)
Pres. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 3 EVs, 24,497,440 PVs (27.9%)
Rep. John Anderson (I-IL)/Fmr. Ambassador Patrick Lucey (I-WI) - 0 EVs, 7,684,823 PVs (8.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on December 07, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
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Romney/Portman v Obama/Biden


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on December 09, 2014, 03:44:51 PM
Brian Sandoval/Susana Martinez: 48.3%, 310 EVs
Hillary Clinton/Andrew Cuomo: 47.1%, 228 EVs
Michael Bloomberg/Chuck Hagel: 3%
Gary Johnson/Jim Gray: 1.1%
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala: 0.5%


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States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10 points:

Washington: 0.9%
Iowa: 2.1%
Pennsylvania: 4.3%
Wisconsin: 6.4%
California: 7.4%

States won by Brian Sandoval by less than 10 points:

Michigan: 0.3%
Florida: 1.2%
North Carolina: 1.2%
West Virginia: 3.5%
Ohio: 4.1%
Colorado: 5.5%
Indiana: 8.3%
Missouri: 8.3%
New Mexico: 8.3%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on December 17, 2014, 02:10:59 AM
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President Forever 2016, went with Kennedy in the 1968 scenario.  Primary was rather uneventful, as I easily carried most states.  Reagan ended up clinching the Republican nomination.  Was down to the Republicans by about 10 points whenever I locked up the nomination.  Obviously this ended up getting reversed and by the end I was just trying to score the biggest landslide I could manage.

Kennedy/Vance:  55.2% PV, 454 EV
Reagan/Tower:    30% PV, 56 EV
Wallace/Somedude:  14.8% PV, 28 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on December 17, 2014, 11:27:20 PM
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President Infinity, first time around with the update.  2016, wanted a quicker game so I jumped straight to the GE.  Played as Kasich, with my opponent being Cuomo.  I actually like the map, and aside from a few offenders (namely Oregon, Rhode Island, and Maine) it seems fairly plausible.

Kasich/Martinez: 55.1% PV, 341 EV
Cuomo/Kloubchar:  44.9% PV, 197 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on December 18, 2014, 05:55:20 PM
Playing President Infinity, 2016 scenario as Gillibrand. Clinton and Biden were both off for the scenario. Warren was set to "Unsure" and jumped in early. Sanders, Schweitzer, Webb, Warner and O'Malley were also all on.

On the GOP side, Christie, Cruz, Bush, Paul, Rubio, Carson, Palin, Huntsman, King and Santorum were all on.

Bloomberg is on as an independent, and so are the Libertarian and Green nominees.

First Update: December 15th 2015 - I lead, as Gillibrand, in the first 4 primary states. My focus is entirely on these states. On the GOP side, Palin leads in Iowa. Perry leads in NH closely followed by Palin. Santorum leads in SC, and Palin leads in NV. Fundraising has proven difficult.

Iowa Result: I take Iowa with 43% of the vote to Warner's 24%, Webb's 16%. Palin takes Iowa on the GOP side with Rubio 2 points behind her.

New Hampshire: Palin takes New Hampshire, with Rick Perry right behind her. I take New Hampshire with 49.9% of the vote to Warner's 19.6% followed by Webb at about 12%.

Nevada (Dem): I take Nevada with 34% of the vote to Webb's 23% and Schweitzer's 20%. Schweitzer withdraws after.

South Carolina (GOP): Santorum takes SC, with Palin coming in 4th.

South Carolina (Dem): I take South Carolina with 50% to Warren's 25% -- this is the highest Warren has recieved in the first 4 primaries.

Florida (GOP): Rubio wins overwhelmingly.

Nevada (GOP): Christie takes Nevada with 14.7% to Palin's 14.4% to Carson's 14.0%. This is the best Christie has done so far.

February 2015: I pushed Webb out of the race. King on the GOP side leaves the race. A few different Republicans win a few random primaries. I lead nationally at 30% to Warren's 25%. Oddly enough, Huntsman endorsed Cruz...

Arizona: Warner had been up here for a while and took it, I didn't contest it.

Pre Super Tuesday Delegates --> Post Super Tuesday Delegates

Delegates...
Gillibrand: 135 --> 585
Warren: 27 --> 644
Sanders: 5 --> 63
O'Malley:  6 --> 153
Warner: 113 --> 255

I disagree that Warren would even be viable after losing the first 4 primaries but w/e...Warren comes out ahead on Super Tuesday, but I won Massachusetts.

Cruz: 30 --> 286
Palin: 9 --> 34
Bush: 2 --> 8
Rubio: 155 --> 234
Christie: 31  --> 85
Paul: 44 --> 50
Perry: 4  --> 8
Carson: 41 --> 44
Santorum:29 --> 33

Post Super Tuesday/March: Christie drops out and endorses Cruz. I take Hawaii. Warner drops out and endorses Warren.  Warren takes Maine. Warren leads 961 to 725 in delegates. The in game estimator has me up 777 in the end but lets see. Bush, Palin and Carson drop out mid-March.

We take Illinois & Louisana but I decide to shore up support in NY, PA and CA.

April: O'Malley drops out the day before the MD/WI/DC primaries. I was ahead in WI but was okay with losing MD to O'Malley. DC was a tossup. I end up taking MD and WI. Santorum and Perry drop out. I take a whole bunch of midwestern states bringing my delegate total to 1319 to Warren's 1,302. Sanders is at 144.

NY/PA/CT/DE - I go completely negative running ads against Warren. I don't contest DE, we're already down 30 points. We go onto win all 4 states! We're now ahead by 500 delegates.

May: We're less than 100 delegates from securing the nomination. Sanders and Warren are both still in the race, but it's pretty much over....and now Sanders is out.

May 18th - I have secured the nomination. Rubio and Cruz are basically neck and neck fighting it out on their end still. Cruz has a slight edge in numbers but Rubio is the one going in stronger to the final primaries including California.

May 24th - I pick Tim Kaine as my VP. It's clear that we need Virginia to win the Presidency.

May 30th - The game is saying Cruz locked up the nomination...but he's still under the 1144 mark (he's at 977). He won Texas 85-15. Gary Johnson wins the Libertarian nod.

June 2016 - I beat Warren in overall delegates 70-30. Cruz beat Rubio 64 - 24% Cruz's delegate count is down.

June 15 2016 Status

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Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  201 EV, 40.5% PV
Cruz/TBD (R) - 333 EV, 45.9% PV
Bloomberg/TBD (I) - 0 EV, 5.6% PV
Stein/TBD (G) - 0 EV, 1.7% PV
Johnson/TBD (L) 0 EV, 1.1% PV


Much work to do.

August 2016 - NJ just flipped to Bloomberg (34-12-11). Ugh. This is going to be tough unless Cruz implodes. Gillibrand receiving only 5 stamina per turn hurts. Bloomberg is expanding the map by targeting D states. This is not good.Cruz picked Jodi Ernst for VP.

September 2016 Status

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Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  201 EV, 36.5% PV - $50 million cash on hand
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 299 EV, 38.8% PV - $83 million cash on hand
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 14 EV, 7.2% PV - $26 million cash on hand
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.6% PV - $-12,983 cash on hand
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.1% PV $-16,649 cash on hand

We've flipped two states to D, and one R state (but traditionally D) has flipped to I.
Cruz must have accepted federal funds. I didn't. Excellent (I now have $127 mil COH)

October Status Update

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Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  187 EV, 37.5% PV - $100 million cash on hand
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 315 EV, 40.2% PV - $76 million cash on hand
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 17 EV, 7.2% PV - $1.9 million cash on hand
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.6% PV - $-1,716 cash on hand
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.1% PV $-102,291 cash on hand

This is not trending well, but Cruz has limited funds and Bloomberg is out of money.

November Status Update

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Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  200 EV, 41.8% PV - $66 million cash on hand
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 317 EV, 38.8% PV - $76 million cash on hand
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 17 EV, 9.1% PV - $210,744 million cash on hand
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.8% PV - $-14,310 cash on hand
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.3% PV $-4,950 cash on hand

I think we're going to lose but I believe the final result will be closer.


Final Results

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Gillibrand/Kaine (D) -  230 EV, 42.9% PV, 64,505,020 votes
Cruz/Ernst (R) - 291 EV, 43% PV, 64,555,800 votes
Bloomberg/Hagel(I) - 17 EV, 10.6% PV, 15,942,518 votes
Stein/Honkala (G) - 0 EV, 1.8% PV - 2,691,369 votes
Johnson/Ventura (L) 0 EV, 1.7% PV, 2,501,390 votes

So, Cruz received  50,780 votes more nationally than me, which is really closing the gap.

Closest States (in no particular order);

Iowa: Cruz up .4% (yes point 4)
Washington: Cruz up 4%
Nevada: Gillibrand up 3%
New Mexico: Cruz up 4%
Wisconsin: Cruz up 4%
Pennsylvania: Gillibrand up 3%
North Carolina: Gillibrand up 5%
Delaware: Bloomberg up 5% over Gillibrand
New Hampshire: Gillibrand up 2%
Maine: Gillibrnad up 2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on December 22, 2014, 08:00:38 PM
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Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchinson (R-TX)/Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-ME) - 384 Electoral Votes, 52.8%
Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL)/Gov. Christine Gregoire (D-WA) - 154 Electoral Votes, 45.7%
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Rep. Cynthia McKinney (G-GA) - 0 Electoral Votes, 1.1%
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Mr.Michael Badnarik (L-TX) - 0 Electoral Votes, 0.1%
Gov. Jesse Ventura (R-MN)/Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY) - 0 Electoral Votes, 0.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 23, 2014, 11:29:43 PM
Is President Forever Infinity better than President Forever 2008? I might buy it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on December 24, 2014, 12:36:23 AM
Is President Forever Infinity better than President Forever 2008? I might buy it.

I prefer President Forever 2016 before it was remodeled into president infinity, but its still good.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on December 26, 2014, 01:08:09 AM
PF 2008: Clinton vs. Brownback

Clinton - 52.7%, 346 EVs
Brownback - 46.8%, 192 EVs
Peroutka - 0.5%, 0 EVs


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States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10%:

Louisiana: 0.4%
Colorado: 3.1%
North Carolina: 3.8%
Missouri: 5.1%
Illinois: 8.5%
Ohio: 8.5%

States won by Sam Brownback by less than 10%:

Georgia: 3.4%
Florida: 3.5%
Arkansas: 4.3%
Arizona: 7.0%
Texas: 7.7%
Montana: 8.5%
South Carolina: 9.1%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Prince of Salem on January 12, 2015, 10:05:50 PM
Three-party race with Star Wars characters included - 1996

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Freedom: Sen. Sheev Palpatine (AK)/Mr. Anakin Skywalker (HI)
47.064.315 - 38,9% - 271 EV

Republican: Mr. Pat Buchanan (VA)/Rep. Bob Dornan (CA)
37.875.579 - 31,3% - 186 EV
Democratic: Sen. Paul Wellstone (MN)/Sen. John Kerry (MA)
35.999.498 - 29,8% - 81 EV

It's funny 'cause it really looks like Lord Sidious played all his cards to get the least electable oponents nominated ;D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Representative Joe Mad on January 16, 2015, 01:00:57 AM
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A fun game and interesting map.  Played the general as Gillibrand vs Romney.  Was close all game, but towards the end I was pretty sure I was going to lose.  Barnstorming, ads, and my foot soldiers ended up saving me.  While I won a respectable electoral college margin, the percentages I won crucial states by were very thin (and likewise for a few of Romney's).  A single percentage point in either direction would have either padded my win or given Romney the victory.

Gillibrand/Webb:  302 Ev/51.2% PV
Romney/Ayotte:  236 EV/48.8% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on January 16, 2015, 11:21:13 AM
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A fun game and interesting map.  Played the general as Gillibrand vs Romney.  Was close all game, but towards the end I was pretty sure I was going to lose.  Barnstorming, ads, and my foot soldiers ended up saving me.  While I won a respectable electoral college margin, the percentages I won crucial states by were very thin (and likewise for a few of Romney's).  A single percentage point in either direction would have either padded my win or given Romney the victory.

Gillibrand/Webb:  302 Ev/51.2% PV
Romney/Ayotte:  236 EV/48.8% PV

It's more fun when it comes down to the wire, right?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on January 16, 2015, 06:20:50 PM
I ran the game playing as Observer for my 2004 scenario. Historical players otherwise, I just wanted to see how it'd turn out.

Kerry/Edwards starts at 45.1% with Bush/Cheney at 42.6%. Nader is oddly high at 2.4%. Bush/Cheney leads in the electoral college 279-259.


On September 28th, Democrats are leading in Virginia and Missouri...but losing Ohio, Oregon and Iowa...despite that, no one has a majority in the electoral college.

Between September 28th and October, we flipped to a GOP wave, back to a Democratic win...so it's close. Polls have the Democratic ticket at 46.5% and GOP at 44.5%

Eve of the Election:(
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John Kerry/John Edwards - 46.1%, 276 EV
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney - 44.4% 254 EV
Ralph Nader/Whoever - 2.4%, 0 EV

Election Results

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John Kerry/John Edwards - 50%, 314 EV
George W. Bush/Dick Cheney - 47.4% 224 EV
Ralph Nader/Whoever - 2.6%, 0 EV

I'm surprised that Kerry pulled it off, and even more surprised that Nader got that large of a vote slice, might have to change that...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on January 16, 2015, 08:55:59 PM
Is this scenario for President Forever 2008 and did you make it? Because the results seem surprisingly fair for the normal 2004 scenario, which is very lopsided.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on January 19, 2015, 11:27:34 PM
President Forever 2016, 2008 Scenario:

Hillary Clinton manages to defeat Barack Obama for the democratic nomination. On the republican side, Fred Thompson never fades during the primaries and eventually wins the nomination. Thompson, hoping to appeal to moderates, selects Rudy Giuliani as his running mate. Meanwhile Clinton makes a move to counter Thompson's southern appeal as she selects Wesley Clark as her running mate.

The Thompson/Giuliani ticket is a alienating and gaffe-prone team who is inept at debating. Meanwhile Clark does wonders in the south.

Election Day is a Clinton landslide:

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Clinton/Clark: 431, 54.7%
Thompson/Giulani: 107, 44.3%
Barr/Root: 0, 1%

States won by Hillary Clinton by less than 10%

North Carolina: 0.2%
Idaho: 0.3%
Kentucky: 1.4%
Mississippi: 1.5%
South Carolina: 2.3%
Arkansas: 2.8%
Arizona: 3.3%
Alaska: 3.3%
Florida: 3.3%
Indiana: 3.4%
West Virginia: 5.2%
Missouri: 5.6%
Wisconsin: 6.0%
North Dakota: 6.8%
Montana: 7.8%
Virginia: 9.8%

States won by Fred Thompson by less than 10%:

Georgia: 2.1%
Louisiana: 4.5%
Kansas: 7.5%
Texas: 7.6%
Alabama: 8.5%





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on January 23, 2015, 10:50:59 AM
Is this scenario for President Forever 2008 and did you make it? Because the results seem surprisingly fair for the normal 2004 scenario, which is very lopsided.

Its for President Infinity. I made it based on a user created 2000 scenario. It also has Powell and McCain as potential Republican contenders. The endorsers in the scenario are inaccurate but who cares, the rest is pretty good.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on February 15, 2015, 10:57:04 PM
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Governor Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas - 516 Electoral Votes
Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin/Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts - 22 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: badgate on February 15, 2015, 11:26:55 PM
where is the link to play this game?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on February 16, 2015, 08:02:36 PM
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President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore - 357 Electoral Votes
Grand Wizard David Duke/Grand Wizard Donald Black - 181 Electoral Votes

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Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson/Governor Tom Ridge - 359 Electoral Votes
President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore - 179 Electoral Votes

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Secretary Jack Kemp/Governor George Voinovich - 280 Electoral Votes
President Bill Clinton/Vice President Al Gore - 258 Electoral Votes

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President George Bush/Vice President Dan Quayle - 363 Electoral Votes
Senator Al Gore/Governor Bill Clinton - 175 Electoral Votes

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President George Bush/Vice President Dan Quayle - 318 Electoral Votes
Senator Paul Wellstone/Senator Dennis DeConcini - 220 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on February 18, 2015, 05:09:32 PM
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President Gerald Ford of Michigan/Vice President Nelson Rockefeller of New York - 293 Electoral Votes
Congressman Morris Udall of Arizona/Governor Dolph Briscoe of Texas - 236 Electoral Votes
Governor George Wallace of Alabama/Colonel Harlan Sanders of Kentucky - 9 Electoral Votes

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Senator Howard Baker of Tennessee/Governor Ronald Reagan of California - 495 Electoral Votes
Governor Jimmy Carter of Georgia/Senator Walter Mondale of Minnesota - 43 Electoral Votes

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President Howard Baker of Tennessee/Vice President Ronald Reagan of California - 496 Electoral Votes
Senator Paul Simon of Illinois/Senator David Pryor of Arkansas - 42 Electoral Votes

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Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts/Senator Joe Biden of Delaware - 294 Electoral Votes
Vice President Ronald Reagan of California/Senator William Cohen of Maine - 244 Electoral votes

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Vice President Joe Biden of Delaware/Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts - 346 Electoral Votes
Mr. Steve Forbes of New Jersey/Governor Elizabeth Dole of Kansas - 192 Electoral Votes

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President Joe Biden of Delaware/Vice President John Kerry of Massachusetts - 365 Electoral Votes
Governor Elizabeth Dole of Kansas/Senator Richard Lugar of Indiana - 173 Electoral Votes

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General Colin Powell of New York/Senator Jon Kyl of Arizona - 286 Electoral Votes
Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota/Senator Jeff Bingaman of New Mexico - 252 Electoral Votes

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Governor Hillary Clinton of Arkansas/Senator Bill Richardson of New Mexico - 350 Electoral Votes
President Colin Powell of New York/Vice President Jon Kyl of Arizona - 188 Electoral Votes

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President Hillary Clinton of Arkansas/Vice President Bill Richardson of New Mexico - 482 Electoral Votes
Senator John McCain of Arizona/Governor Jesse Ventura of Minnesota - 30 Electoral Votes
Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas/Undersecretary Gary Bauer of Kentucky - 26 Electoral Votes

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Governor Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island/Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas - 277 Electoral Votes
Vice President Bill Richardson of New Mexico/Senator Sherrod Brown of Ohio - 261 Electoral Votes

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Senator Al Gore of Tennessee/Governor Jay Inslee of Washington - 375 Electoral Votes
President Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island/Vice President Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas - 163 Electoral Votes

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Vice President Kay Bailey Hutchinson of Texas/Senator Christine Todd Whitman of New Jersey - 389 Electoral Votes
President Al Gore of Tennessee/Vice President Jay Inslee of Washington - 149 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on February 21, 2015, 03:49:05 PM
where is the link to play this game?

http://www.270soft.com

You can download & purchase it there.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on March 02, 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Anyone have any good scenarios they want to share?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on March 29, 2015, 07:06:53 PM
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Governor Chris Christie/Senator Roger Wicker - 310 Electoral Votes, 53.3%
President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden - 228 Electoral Votes, 44.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: badgate on April 06, 2015, 06:35:15 PM
where is the link to play this game?

http://www.270soft.com

You can download & purchase it there.

What about for free?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on April 07, 2015, 04:32:53 PM
where is the link to play this game?

http://www.270soft.com

You can download & purchase it there.

What about for free?
You can download the Demo, but if you love a realistic simulation of an election. Just pay the 19.99, it was that or 4 Five Dollar Footlongs from Subway. I went hungry for about a week, but at least I had President Forever. Spare some change?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on April 07, 2015, 06:31:02 PM
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President... Kucinich?

Funnest game I have ever played, I played this game on Hard to get the extra score.
Upset Victory for Me. Romney was ahead in Missouri, Minnesota, and Michigan until election day.
I played it as far left as possible, it was a toss up election from the start.

[R] Romney/Coleman -  64,898,211 - 49.36% - 265 E.V.
[D] Kucinich/Sanders - 66,575,495 - 50.64% - 273 E.V.

Closest States - (Under 3%)
Missouri - 49.67% > 50.33%
Michigan - 49.46% > 50.54 %
Iowa - 50.88 < 49.12%
Minnesota - 48.78% > 51.22%
Oregon - 51.43% < 48.57%
Virginia - 51.47% < 48.53%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: badgate on April 07, 2015, 09:23:25 PM
Well it looks a lot of fun, when I've got a job again I'll have to purchase it


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ChainsawJedis on April 27, 2015, 03:53:48 AM
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Nixon/Rockefeller: 261 EV, 45.1% PV, 59,776,118
RFK/Shriver: 232 EV, 39.6% PV, 52,436,892
George Wallace/LeMay: 45EV, 20,205,991

RFK loses the EV and the popular vote, yet due to a democratic congress, is elected and becomes the 36th President of the United States. Nixon gets screwed by a Kennedy again.

Definitely the most fun I've had playing the game so far. Was almost sure I was going to lose coming into election day (which I guess I technically did). CA kept switching back and forth throughout and would have given me the win. I also barely managed to hold on to NJ, MD, OR, and CT which also stopped Nixon from hitting 270. Strangely IL one my biggest base of support despite Nixon winning it IRTL. Wallace wins all the states he did IRTL. Made plays for TN, OK, TX, MO, DE, OH, CA, and IN. Even had OK going into election day but it barely went to GOP.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ChainsawJedis on April 30, 2015, 01:46:09 PM
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Clinton/Castro: 374 EV, 54.5% PV, 70,208,150
Walker/Rubio: 164 EV, 45.5% PV, 58,509,328


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on May 01, 2015, 11:52:11 AM
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Walker/Rubio: 339 EV, 52.1% PV, 75,299,558
Schweitzer/Gillibrand: 199 EV, 47.5% PV, 68,718,443
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: WVdemocrat on May 02, 2015, 06:16:38 PM
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Kennedy/Muskie: 293, 43.1% PV, 56,891,096
Rockefeller/Rhodes: 217, 40.7% PV, 53,781,068
Wallace/LeMay: 28, 16.2% PV, 21,464,761

I played as Robert Kennedy in 1968. Took out McCarthy and a bunch of no-names from the primaries. I ran only against President Johnson, and I also threw McGovern in there just for fun. Johnson put up a damn good fight, I actually only beat him after McGovern withdrew.

On the Republican side, I took out Nixon and it was a clown car, but the only candidates that gained any traction were Rockefeller, Reagan, and Romney. In the end, Rockefeller upset Reagan and won the nomination by an incredibly narrow margin. Less than 100 delegates actually.

In the general, I initially trailed Rockefeller in NY, but I quickly gained the lead there and never let it go. I had to fight hard for Texas, and ended up losing it 35.2% to 34.3%. Vermont was also very narrow, I won by 0.2%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lumine on May 02, 2015, 09:04:44 PM
Given that I don't have Prime Minister Forever (although I really want that game), I chose to use the PF scenario in which the UK holds a Presidential election to see what could happen. I played as Farage expecting to win a region or two, and the results were... fascinating.

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Nigel Farage (UKIP): 278 EV, 33.2% PV, 15,200,649
Ed Milliband (Labor): 103 EV, 24% PV, 10,978,347
David Cameron (Conservative): 103 EV, 23.5% PV, 10,765,692
Nicola Sturgeon (SNP): 33 EV, 2.5% PV, 1,125,428
Caroline Lucas (Green): 12 EV, 5.2% PV, 2,363,128
Nick Clegg (LibDem): 0 EV, 11.1% PV, 5,081,020
Ieuan Wyn Jones (Plaid Cymru): 0 EV, 0.6% PV, 292,228


Surprisingly enough Cameron held some healthy leads over UKIP in the areas he won, but Milliband and Laboor came close to a complete collapse. Save from the areas of Wales they won, I came within one or two points of winning the rest of the regions they managed to win. The greens managed to defeat the SNP in a region (somehow), and the Lib Dems lost everything, their best result being third place (24%) in Devon. Plaid actually came close to winning most of Wales, but Cameron took those regions with slim margins.

All in all it's a fairly interesting fantasy scenario, but I would naturally prefer to try the actual game about British elections.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on May 03, 2015, 03:11:15 PM
I'm also thinking of getting Prime Minister Forever. Does anyone have it, and is it any fun?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on May 14, 2015, 01:19:34 AM
I'm also thinking of getting Prime Minister Forever. Does anyone have it, and is it any fun?
I'm buying it soon, I will tell you about it when I get it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on May 19, 2015, 03:46:42 PM
This is a problem... ()


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: BaconBacon96 on May 20, 2015, 04:27:36 PM
How in the heck did that happen.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on May 20, 2015, 07:14:47 PM
Anybody else loving those Vczar (sp?) scenarios?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on May 22, 2015, 03:57:31 PM
1968: Romneymania!
or
The Three Georges

This was a fun little game. I took out Nixon on the Republican side and played as Romney. I negotiated to win the endorsement of the Teamsters and Eisenhower, which, combined with my decisive victory in the New Hampshire primary, allowed me to snowball to the GOP nomination, where I picked George Bush as my running mate. On the Democratic side, I turned off Humphrey and enabled McGovern and Connally, letting the chaos unfold. Connally dropped out around the Florida primary, but the convention was deadlocked until McCarthy threw his support to McGovern, whose running mate was Fred Harris.

Compared to the primary season, the general election was pretty anticlimactic; I had double-digit leads all the way to November (though I threw in some ads and a Crusader - Gerry Ford - for a little boost just to be sure). Debates were mixed, one each for Wallace and myself. McGovern got a boost from the "Halloween Peace", but it wasn't enough to save him. I probably could have gone for RI, AK, ME, and MA if I wanted, but I was busy focusing on other states. Either way, landslide:

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Gov. George Romney (R-MI)/Rep. George Bush (R-TX): 466 EVs, 38,378,134 PVs (50.6%)
Gov. George Wallace (AI-AL)/Mr. Curtis LeMay (AI-CA): 39 EVs, 12,218,018 PVs (16.1%)
Sen. George McGovern (D-SD)/Sen. Fred Harris (D-OK): 32 EVs, 25,315,006 PVs (33.3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potus on May 24, 2015, 11:30:21 AM
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Fmr. Vice President Richard Nixon/ Mayor John Lindsay-   468 EVs, 55.1% PV
Senator George McGovern/ Ambassador Sargent Shriver- 43 EVs, 29.3% PV
Governor George Wallace/ General Curtis LeMay- 27 EVs, 15.6% PV

The Democratic Party was severely divided. Southern Democrats flocked to Wallace, with McGovern not breaking the double digits throughout the entire Deep South. Nixon further capitalized on the polarization within the Democratic Party by running on a theme of "Peace Abroad, Peace At Home" which hit on a combination of law-and-order and foreign policy issues. Commentators predicted that McGovern's radicalism would forfeit moderate Democrats to Nixon. This prophecy came true when President Harry Truman and his allies endorsed and campaign for the Nixon/Lindsay ticket.

The Nixon/Lindsay ticket ran on an honorable end to Vietnam, achieving a lasting peace to hold off nuclear war, ending the disorder and chaos at home, and a general message of peace and unity. This contrasted well with the division, infighting, and extremism of both other candidates in the race. Nixon's traditional Republican base was greatly expanded by the flight of the so-called "Nixon Democrats" who opposed the growing radicalism within the Democratic Party. His selection of John Lindsay, a signal to the moderate faction of the Republican Party, also won him the endorsement and active support of Massachusetts Senator Ed Brooke.

In the end, President-Elect Nixon won an enormous landslide over second place finisher McGovern. The two Democrats in the race received 44.9% of the popular vote. This result would herald the coming of a decades-long, Republican majority.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potus on May 24, 2015, 04:13:28 PM
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Fmr. Vice President Richard Nixon/ Mayor John Lindsay-   468 EVs, 55.1% PV
Senator George McGovern/ Ambassador Sargent Shriver- 43 EVs, 29.3% PV
Governor George Wallace/ General Curtis LeMay- 27 EVs, 15.6% PV

The Democratic Party was severely divided. Southern Democrats flocked to Wallace, with McGovern not breaking the double digits throughout the entire Deep South. Nixon further capitalized on the polarization within the Democratic Party by running on a theme of "Peace Abroad, Peace At Home" which hit on a combination of law-and-order and foreign policy issues. Commentators predicted that McGovern's radicalism would forfeit moderate Democrats to Nixon. This prophecy came true when President Harry Truman and his allies endorsed and campaign for the Nixon/Lindsay ticket.

The Nixon/Lindsay ticket ran on an honorable end to Vietnam, achieving a lasting peace to hold off nuclear war, ending the disorder and chaos at home, and a general message of peace and unity. This contrasted well with the division, infighting, and extremism of both other candidates in the race. Nixon's traditional Republican base was greatly expanded by the flight of the so-called "Nixon Democrats" who opposed the growing radicalism within the Democratic Party. His selection of John Lindsay, a signal to the moderate faction of the Republican Party, also won him the endorsement and active support of Massachusetts Senator Ed Brooke.

In the end, President-Elect Nixon won an enormous landslide over second place finisher McGovern. The two Democrats in the race received 44.9% of the popular vote. This result would herald the coming of a decades-long, Republican majority.

Wasn't completely and entirely sure how realistic this was. It made sense in my mind if you treat McGovern like a caricature of radicals and Wallace was a caricature of the reactionary/populist Dems.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 28, 2015, 05:43:16 PM
Simmed as Bloomberg on President Infinity (got it yesterday) because my game w/ Rubio vs Clinton froze, so I wanted to see if a whole game could be played w/o freezing, luckily it did...so 270soft won't have to deal w/ my short fuse ;)

But, did not expect Bush, who was GOP nominee in this race, to clobber Hillary.

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Bush: 306 EVs
Clinton: 232 EVs

I won 2.2%, roughly 3.3 Million votes without doing anything. The Map itself is bizarre.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 28, 2015, 08:29:05 PM
Actually, i did do one thing. i ran two attack ads on Bush and Hillary, and the Bush one backfired, but the Hillary one did some decent damage. But, she already was losing before that (except in Ohio, where her lead went from 13% to like 5%, and then bounced back to 11% on election night).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on May 29, 2015, 12:39:44 AM
Simmed as Bloomberg on President Infinity (got it yesterday) because my game w/ Rubio vs Clinton froze, so I wanted to see if a whole game could be played w/o freezing, luckily it did...so 270soft won't have to deal w/ my short fuse ;)

But, did not expect Bush, who was GOP nominee in this race, to clobber Hillary.

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Bush: 306 EVs
Clinton: 232 EVs

I won 2.2%, roughly 3.3 Million votes without doing anything. The Map itself is bizarre.
They really need to fix percentages, OH would never go D if Maine went red, and vice versa for MN, RI. I did read that realistic modeling will be added soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 29, 2015, 02:37:11 AM
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2016 ELECTION:
President-Elect, Marco Rubio, R-Florida; Vice President-Elect Rob Portman, R-Ohio: 311 EVs; 49.9%; 75,018,347
U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts; U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, D-Vermont: 227 EVs; 46.2%; 69,548,739
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg, I-NY; Former SecDef Chuck Hagel, I-NE; 0 EVs; 2.5%; 3,759,551
Former Governor Gary Johnson, D-New Mexico; Former Judge James Gray, D-California: 0 EVs; 1,482,211
Physician Jill Stein, G-Massachusetts; Activist Cheri Honkala, G-Pennsylvania; 0 EVs; 618,972

What a fun campaign! I was Rubio-Portman. It was very bizarre, and interesting. It was neck and neck until early October when I started opening up huge leads in many states. However, after I won the second debate, scandals started popping up on Rubio.

Warren made the national polls go from 48-41% to 47-44%. I started bombarding her in the airwaves, and it went back to a decent 48-42%. Scandals started to erupt on Warren (Bloomberg, and I continued the attacks via airwaves on her as well).

Then, mid-October, the endorsements started piling in:

New York Times, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Al Gore, Bill Nelson, Joe Manchin, Barbara Boxer, and Jerry Brown (Independent Angus King, and Jesse Ventura as well) ALL endorsed me (along w/ all the typical GOP endorsements). Warren started slipping in deep blue states, like CA and NY. I started focusing completely on CA, and let Warren regain footing.

She started picking up Democrat endorsements, and started to peel off smaller states from me. By election day, I kept a consistent lead, but stopped campaigning w/ 2 days to go. She also got some Republican officials endorsements.

I won very early on, but most states were very, very close. Like 49-46, 48-47 for many of them. and states like OH, NC, FL, where I led by 8-11% points wound up becoming 50-46 and 51-46 wins.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on May 29, 2015, 03:26:32 AM
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2016 ELECTION:
President-Elect, Marco Rubio, R-Florida; Vice President-Elect Rob Portman, R-Ohio: 311 EVs; 49.9%; 75,018,347
U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren, D-Massachusetts; U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders, D-Vermont: 227 EVs; 46.2%; 69,548,739
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg, I-NY; Former SecDef Chuck Hagel, I-NE; 0 EVs; 2.5%; 3,759,551
Former Governor Gary Johnson, D-New Mexico; Former Judge James Gray, D-California: 0 EVs; 1,482,211
Physician Jill Stein, G-Massachusetts; Activist Cheri Honkala, G-Pennsylvania; 0 EVs; 618,972

What a fun campaign! I was Rubio-Portman. It was very bizarre, and interesting. It was neck and neck until early October when I started opening up huge leads in many states. However, after I won the second debate, scandals started popping up on Rubio.

Warren made the national polls go from 48-41% to 47-44%. I started bombarding her in the airwaves, and it went back to a decent 48-42%. Scandals started to erupt on Warren (Bloomberg, and I continued the attacks via airwaves on her as well).

Then, mid-October, the endorsements started piling in:

New York Times, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Al Gore, Bill Nelson, Joe Manchin, Barbara Boxer, and Jerry Brown (Independent Angus King, and Jesse Ventura as well) ALL endorsed me (along w/ all the typical GOP endorsements). Warren started slipping in deep blue states, like CA and NY. I started focusing completely on CA, and let Warren regain footing.

She started picking up Democrat endorsements, and started to peel off smaller states from me. By election day, I kept a consistent lead, but stopped campaigning w/ 2 days to go. She also got some Republican officials endorsements.

I won very early on, but most states were very, very close. Like 49-46, 48-47 for many of them. and states like OH, NC, FL, where I led by 8-11% points wound up becoming 50-46 and 51-46 wins.

Nice win! I try to play without third parties since I played a King/Fiorina vs. Clinton/Warner with Everyone on. (
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Every Tossup I lost by less than 0.5%. I need to get better.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 30, 2015, 12:00:03 AM
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Reagan-Hatfield, Repub: 410 EVs (Me)
McGovern-T. Kennedy, Dem: 161 EVs
Wallace-LeMay, AIP: 27 EVs

Another wild election. I had this one wrapped up early, but Wallace was mounting a big national  comeback and it was flipping states like AR, GA, and WV in contention w/ him. It also helped McGovern beat me out in ND, SD, and IL (he had like 5% in each state, which was enough to sink me there).

I ran a nationwide ad against Wallace, and it carried me into victory. My game also kept glitching, so it took a while too finish this lmao.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: King on May 30, 2015, 05:07:56 PM
I decided to try this game out. I have been coasting as Clinton, everything was semi-normal... then this just happened:

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Walker just dropped out of the race... with the lead. All he had to do to clinch the nomination was win NE, which he has a 20 point lead in the polls over Rubio... and he dropped out.

Rubio doesn't have enough delegates in second place to reach the majority with the remaining states so I don't know what the sim is going to do but this was so weird.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on May 30, 2015, 07:53:24 PM
I sure hope we get more realistic modeling and fewer crashes. I was playing a 1936 scenario and on my way to winning at least a state or two as Huey Long and then it just stopped working... Once, I lost North Carolina 83-17 and won the whole election anyway, winning states like Missouri.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Illuminati Blood Drinker on May 30, 2015, 10:32:07 PM
I decided to try this game out. I have been coasting as Clinton, everything was semi-normal... then this just happened:

Walker just dropped out of the race... with the lead. All he had to do to clinch the nomination was win NE, which he has a 20 point lead in the polls over Rubio... and he dropped out.

Rubio doesn't have enough delegates in second place to reach the majority with the remaining states so I don't know what the sim is going to do but this was so weird.
D'oh, Walker missed! ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 31, 2015, 01:47:02 AM
Ugh, I cannot win with Nikki Haley! WHY?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on May 31, 2015, 06:38:59 AM
Worse thing is that after playing it for about 12 months you learn how to ace it even on hard mode. Saying that 2016 is very difficult as a GOP because you don't have enough influence points to get endorsements.

I've seen Jeb Bush win the nominee after getting 1% in Iowa and 4% in New hampshire


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JonathanSwift on May 31, 2015, 11:31:53 AM
Simmed as Bloomberg on President Infinity (got it yesterday) because my game w/ Rubio vs Clinton froze, so I wanted to see if a whole game could be played w/o freezing, luckily it did...so 270soft won't have to deal w/ my short fuse ;)

But, did not expect Bush, who was GOP nominee in this race, to clobber Hillary.

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Bush: 306 EVs
Clinton: 232 EVs

I won 2.2%, roughly 3.3 Million votes without doing anything. The Map itself is bizarre.

Based on the Republican win in Rhode Island, I'm guessing that Lincoln Chafee was Clinton's running mate?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 31, 2015, 09:07:09 PM
Simmed as Bloomberg on President Infinity (got it yesterday) because my game w/ Rubio vs Clinton froze, so I wanted to see if a whole game could be played w/o freezing, luckily it did...so 270soft won't have to deal w/ my short fuse ;)

But, did not expect Bush, who was GOP nominee in this race, to clobber Hillary.

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Bush: 306 EVs
Clinton: 232 EVs

I won 2.2%, roughly 3.3 Million votes without doing anything. The Map itself is bizarre.

Based on the Republican win in Rhode Island, I'm guessing that Lincoln Chafee was Clinton's running mate?

Ayotte.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JonathanSwift on May 31, 2015, 09:27:21 PM
Simmed as Bloomberg on President Infinity (got it yesterday) because my game w/ Rubio vs Clinton froze, so I wanted to see if a whole game could be played w/o freezing, luckily it did...so 270soft won't have to deal w/ my short fuse ;)

But, did not expect Bush, who was GOP nominee in this race, to clobber Hillary.

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Bush: 306 EVs
Clinton: 232 EVs

I won 2.2%, roughly 3.3 Million votes without doing anything. The Map itself is bizarre.

Based on the Republican win in Rhode Island, I'm guessing that Lincoln Chafee was Clinton's running mate?

Ayotte.

Why would Ayotte be on the Democratic ticket?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 31, 2015, 09:48:18 PM
Lol, sorry i thought you meant GOP Ticket. I believe Warner or Kaine was DEM VP.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 31, 2015, 10:29:13 PM
Susana Martinez-John Thune vs Bernie Sanders-Brian Schweitzer

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R: 307 EVs; 50.7%
D: 231 EVs; 49.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on June 13, 2015, 07:38:52 PM
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Martin O'Malley/Brian Schweitzer-304-49.8%
Ben Carson/Susana Martinez-234-49.8%
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala-0-.3% (I played as Stein to watch how things unfolded)

Kinda stunned that O'Malley won NC and lost VA. Also expected him to win New Hampshire. All in all, it didn't seem to be terribly unrealistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on June 18, 2015, 11:51:51 AM
2020 Presidential Election
President Clinton retiring.

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Mr. Jeff Bezos/Mr. Jamie Dimon - 233 Electoral Votes, 28.8%
Sen. Joni Ernst/Sen. Rand Paul - 175 Electoral Votes, 24.7%
Vice President Julian Castro/Senator Cheri Bustos - 126 Electoral Votes (inc. PR), 28.8%
Mr. Donald Trump/Rep. Jim Jordan - 11 Electoral Votes, 13.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on June 26, 2015, 12:22:38 AM
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Sen. Tim Scott(R-SC)/Gov. Jon Huntsman(R-UT)44.8% - 254
Rep. Joaquin Castro(D-TX)/Amb. Gary Locke(D-WA)44.8% - 262 (PR is a state in this scenario)
Mr. Donald Trump(I-NY)/Rep. Steve Chabot(R/I-OH)10.4% - 29
Did a 2020 scenario in the general as the Trumpster. I had 61 days to win, I grabbed Pres. Hillary Clinton's endorsement, and won NY 40.12%. Congress gave the election to Scott, but I felt happy because I know I got a cabinet position.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on July 08, 2015, 06:45:13 PM
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1860 Election
Sen. William Seward (R-NY)/Rep. Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) - 160 EV, 32.3%
Vice President John Breckinridge (D-KY)/Sen. Joseph Lane (D-OR) - 106 EV, 26.2%
Sen. Stephen Douglas (D-IL)/Sen. Herschel Johnson (D-GA) - 37 EV, 29.4%
Gov. Sam Houston (CU-TX)/Sen. John Crittenden (CU-KY) - 0 EV, 10.5%
Rep. Gerrit Smith (L-NY)/Mr. Samuel McFarland (L-PA) - 0 EV, 1.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on July 08, 2015, 07:03:22 PM
How do you get president forever?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on July 09, 2015, 05:28:49 PM
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Rubio/Romney - 264, 46.7%
Clinton/Sanders - 236, 41%
Ventura/Johnson - 38, 10.7%


I'm not even sure what happened here.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: WVdemocrat on July 09, 2015, 06:59:28 PM

http://270soft.com/us-election-games/president-election-game-2016-infinity/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on July 13, 2015, 12:48:58 AM
Sanders/Castro 309 EVs 48.8%
Paul/Sandoval 229 EVs 49.8

I can't post the map, as I haven't posted 20 times. But the only states that changed from 2012, were NH, NV, and VA to Paul. I just let this run with the computer, very interesting result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on July 13, 2015, 01:20:37 AM
Sanders/Castro 309 EVs 48.8%
Paul/Sandoval 229 EVs 49.8

I can't post the map, as I haven't posted 20 times. But the only states that changed from 2012, were NH, NV, and VA to Paul. I just let this run with the computer, very interesting result.
Wow, really a hanging chad there. Welcome to Atlasia BTW!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on July 13, 2015, 03:10:17 PM
Thanks!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Vega on July 15, 2015, 08:48:07 PM
So, and I'm probably being an idiot here, but how do you get mods? I can never get the actual game to recognize a mod, even when I put it in the Mod file.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on July 16, 2015, 04:08:28 PM
So, and I'm probably being an idiot here, but how do you get mods? I can never get the actual game to recognize a mod, even when I put it in the Mod file.

You have to unzip them from their downloaded files, and then put them in the scenarios folder of the game. Also, make sure that they are made for the version of President Forever you're using. Some President Infinity scenarios are under President Forever 2008.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on August 03, 2015, 03:30:56 PM
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Simmed through a 2004 scenario I downloaded as Nader. Started in the primaries with a crowded Democratic field (No Kerry though) and a Republican field composed of McCain and Powell. I suspect heavy game strangeness or just a lot of voter fraud. :)
Colin Powell/John McCain-451
Dick Gephardt/Wes Clark-87

Some curious results:
North Dakota: 99.3%-.5%-.2%
Virginia: 98.8%-.9%-.3%
New Mexico: 93.7%-4.1%-2.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on August 16, 2015, 10:39:46 PM
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LBJ/Hubert Humphrey - 368 EV, 44.8% PV

Harold Stassen/George Romney - 111 EV, 38.6% PV

George Wallace/Curtis LeMay - 59 EV, 16.1% PV

I just spectated it for fun, A Democrat more conservative then the Republican. Obviously LBJ crushed Stassen, but I would've guessed that Wallace would've taken more of the south as the election was more centrist. Anyways, for your amusement.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on August 29, 2015, 06:28:04 PM
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Biden/Klobuchar
Trump/Cruz


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 03, 2015, 10:22:24 AM
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Chris Christie/Scott Walker - 401, 52.8%
Hillary Clinton/John Hickenlooper - 137, 43.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 08, 2015, 06:04:10 PM
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President George Bush/Mayor Rudy Giuliani - 445 EV, 69.8%
Representative Richard Gephardt/Senator John Kerry - 93 EV, 28.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Abraham Reagan on September 08, 2015, 10:15:49 PM
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Simply beautiful...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bagelman on September 10, 2015, 12:44:15 AM
Revenge is a dish best served without chlorofluorocarbons or excess amounts of greenhouse gasses



Al Gore (D-TN) / Evan Bayh (D-IN) 302 EV 48.8% PV (plurality)

Jeb Bush (R-FL) / Bobby Jindal (R-LA) 236 EV 48.4% PV

Ralph Nader (G-CT) 1.7% PV

Bob Barr (L-GA) 1% PV

Bush won Indiana by a few hundred votes, and came closing to winning New York in addition to Washington. Gore still would have won in that case, by a razor thin margin 271-267.

Also, in cases were a "pure" spectator mode is desired, remove the spectator party from the ballot in all states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bagelman on September 12, 2015, 12:55:54 PM


Barack Obama/Joe Biden defeats Rick Perry



Rick Perry/Susanna Martinez defeats Mark Warner


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on September 24, 2015, 10:28:07 PM
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Brown-Red: 33.1% 1054 Delegates
Clinton-Blue:  32.8% 1271 Delegates
Kerrey-Grey: 17.3% 630 Delegates
Tsongas-Grey: 16.4% 452 Delegates
Harkin-Dark Green: 0.4% 0 Delegates

I ran as Jerry Brown in the '92 primaries and after winning New Hampshire, Maine, and Nevada early on, I took most of the states in the northeast, the rust belt and the west. Clinton dominated the south, while Kerrey and Tsongas both won a handful of states. Unfortunately, right before the convention, Tsongas endorsed Clinton, giving him the nomination. Kerrey endorsed me the turn after leaving me just 20 delegates short of the nomination.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 27, 2015, 06:17:51 PM
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Senator Rob Portman/Senator Kelly Ayotte - 297 EV, 49.2%
Senator Amy Klobuchar/Fmr. Senator Jim Webb - 241 EV, 45.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on October 12, 2015, 12:02:20 AM
2016 GOP Primary
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Carly Fiorina = Green
Marco Rubio = Blue
John Kasich  = Dark Maroon/Red
Mike Huckanee = Light Blue
Rand Paul = Dark Green
Bobby Jindal = Light Red

I played as Rubio, lost to Fiorina. Kasich's presence in the race killed off my campaign's surges. After winning NH, I was riding a wave of momentum, but then Kasich started carpetbagging me in the airwaves in SC, and other southern states. Forced me to abandon my leads in western states like UT, AZ, and CO to try and salvage leads in the South.

Fiorina then built up a unstoppable wall in the west. I was able to eventually crush Kasich by winning some northeastern states, but the damage had been done already and i started to fade. Huckabee also caused me problems but I beat him out in TX, NC, LA, and MS. I only lost AL (to Fiorina by like .5%) because he stole like 15% from me.

I am now playing as Fiorina in the general, w/ Rubio as VP.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on October 12, 2015, 11:16:22 AM
2016 GOP Primary
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Carly Fiorina = Green
Marco Rubio = Blue
John Kasich  = Dark Maroon/Red
Mike Huckanee = Light Blue
Rand Paul = Dark Green
Bobby Jindal = Light Red

I played as Rubio, lost to Fiorina. Kasich's presence in the race killed off my campaign's surges. After winning NH, I was riding a wave of momentum, but then Kasich started carpetbagging me in the airwaves in SC, and other southern states. Forced me to abandon my leads in western states like UT, AZ, and CO to try and salvage leads in the South.

Fiorina then built up a unstoppable wall in the west. I was able to eventually crush Kasich by winning some northeastern states, but the damage had been done already and i started to fade. Huckabee also caused me problems but I beat him out in TX, NC, LA, and MS. I only lost AL (to Fiorina by like .5%) because he stole like 15% from me.

I am now playing as Fiorina in the general, w/ Rubio as VP.

Carly is killing it in the new update, she managed to take a clean sweep of the Northern Primary states in April even when I had the nomination virtually wrapped up


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on October 12, 2015, 01:42:26 PM
2016 GOP Primary:
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Blue = Marco Rubio
Green = Donald Trump
Dark Red = John Kasich
Light Green = Bobby Jindal
Light Red = Mike Huckabee

Played as Rubio again and beat out Trump for the nomination. Kasich, once again, went ham on me and tried to destroy my campaign. At first it was working, I was dropping like a rock in the early states and Kasich was within 10% of me in Florida.

However, Kasich got crushed by negative ad's coming from the Trump campaign. I started focusing on later primary states to try and stay a float (I had already been blown out in IA, NH, SC, and NV...I didn't get 2% in NV btw haha).

I started pulling small to medium upsets in states like AL, LA and ME. This allowed for me to build up momentum in other states. I also started sitting on like $45million dollars, which I later used to crush Trump in ad's. Jindal, Kasich, Huckabee and others would drop out soon after and all of them endorsed me.

Paul was irrelevant at this point, but was still staying in. I then pulled off a massive win in NY and Trump started to collapse. I locked up the nomination by winning NE, and WV.

Also, Biden upset Hillary in the DEM Primaries. So Rubio v. Biden in the general. 


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on October 12, 2015, 05:26:42 PM
2016 GOP Primary:


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Red = Nikki Haley
Green = Bobby Jindal
Blue = Chris Christie
Light Blue = Rick Perry
Light Red = Rick Santorum

Played as Nikki Haley and won the nomination after a somewhat contentious duel with Jindal. I came 13 delegates short of clinching the nomination in early April, but Jindal went on a hot streak for a bit and I was able to clinch it in early June lol.

Santorum refuses to endorse me lol
Jindal wanted to be my VP and I was like nah so he stayed in a week or two after I clinched the nomination delegates wise. Santorum finally dropped out after I won at the convention lol.

I am facing Sanders now w/ $203 Million COH.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 12, 2015, 06:21:12 PM
2016 GOP Primary:


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Red = Nikki Haley
Green = Bobby Jindal
Blue = Chris Christie
Light Blue = Rick Perry
Light Red = Rick Santorum

Played as Nikki Haley and won the nomination after a somewhat contentious duel with Jindal. I came 13 delegates short of clinching the nomination in early April, but Jindal went on a hot streak for a bit and I was able to clinch it in early June lol.

Santorum refuses to endorse me lol
Jindal wanted to be my VP and I was like nah so he stayed in a week or two after I clinched the nomination delegates wise. Santorum finally dropped out after I won at the convention lol.

I am facing Sanders now w/ $203 Million COH.
LOL, nice! Good luck. You inspired me to play a Rubio game and I just won IA, NH, and NV. :D


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on October 12, 2015, 09:38:42 PM
United States presidential election, 2008

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Senator John Kerry (D-MA) / Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 353 Electoral Votes; 71,656,220 - 52.3%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) / Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) - 185 Electoral Votes; 61,669,057 - 45.0%

Played as Kerry.  Took a very sizable lead early on, and by the time of the first debate I was consistently ahead in all of the swing states plus leading in states like MT, IN, MO and McCain's native AZ.  Won the first and third debates, and Obama beat Jindal in his.  Decided to space-bar to election night around October 17th and got a very solid result.  Surprised by how historically accurate it seemed.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on October 13, 2015, 12:33:48 AM
2016 GOP Primary:


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Red = Nikki Haley
Green = Bobby Jindal
Blue = Chris Christie
Light Blue = Rick Perry
Light Red = Rick Santorum

Played as Nikki Haley and won the nomination after a somewhat contentious duel with Jindal. I came 13 delegates short of clinching the nomination in early April, but Jindal went on a hot streak for a bit and I was able to clinch it in early June lol.

Santorum refuses to endorse me lol
Jindal wanted to be my VP and I was like nah so he stayed in a week or two after I clinched the nomination delegates wise. Santorum finally dropped out after I won at the convention lol.

I am facing Sanders now w/ $203 Million COH.
LOL, nice! Good luck. You inspired me to play a Rubio game and I just won IA, NH, and NV. :D
Niceee :D and thanks. I won the general as Nikki. I'll post the results tomorrow. I still have to play the general elections w/ Marco and Carly, too.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on October 17, 2015, 11:54:37 AM
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Clinton/Kaine- 366 Electoral votes, 52%
Bush/Pence- 172 Electoral votes, 48%

Poor Jeb! All major swing states apart from Nevada were up for play, with Jeb coming only 2% away in Michigan, Florida, Ohio, Virginia, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Arizona and Colorado 



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 18, 2015, 12:18:11 AM
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√ Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL): 327 (51.9%)

President Barack Obama (D-IL)/VP Joe Biden (D-DE): 215 (46.1%)

Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Mr. Jim Gray (L-CA): 0 (2.0%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 21, 2015, 06:02:55 PM
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Oh, what attack ads can do!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 21, 2015, 06:50:27 PM
I'm actually trying to download it now but it says there is a virus :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 21, 2015, 10:46:27 PM
I'm actually trying to download it now but it says there is a virus :(
;-;


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Intell on October 21, 2015, 10:52:26 PM
How do I get this?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Abraham Reagan on October 21, 2015, 11:03:09 PM
THE TAFT REVIVAL
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William H. Taft - 399 Electoral Votes, 42.8%
Woodrow Wilson - 114 Electoral Votes, 32.3%
Theodore Rossevelt - 18 Electoral Votes, 20.1%
Eugene Debs - 0 Electoral Votes, 4.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bagelman on October 21, 2015, 11:22:01 PM

http://270soft.com/us-election-games/president-election-game-2016-infinity/

I'm actually trying to download it now but it says there is a virus :(

Are you downloading it from the linked website after purchase?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 22, 2015, 05:43:22 AM
2000

Gore/Shaheen
v
Bush/Cheney
v
Nader
v
Buchanan

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Bizarre outcome...
Gore clearly seemed stronger in the South than reality.

Gore - 298 EV - 50.3%
Bush - 240 EV - 46.5%
Nader - 0 EV - 2.8%
Buchanan - 0 EV - 0.5%

Bush
Closest margins
LA -  0.4%
MN -  0.6%

Best states
WY - 65.6%
ID - 64.1%
UT - 64.6%

Gore
Closest states
GA - 0.0% - 78 votes
AR - 1.8%

Best states
NY - 62.8%
MA - 63.7%
RI - 64.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Intell on October 22, 2015, 06:44:52 PM

http://270soft.com/us-election-games/president-election-game-2016-infinity/

I'm actually trying to download it now but it says there is a virus :(

Are you downloading it from the linked website after purchase?

Yea, the download link fails.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 22, 2015, 09:25:15 PM

http://270soft.com/us-election-games/president-election-game-2016-infinity/

I'm actually trying to download it now but it says there is a virus :(

Are you downloading it from the linked website after purchase?

Yea, the download link fails.

After a hectic customer support episode, I finally got it to work! :D

President Infinity, here I come.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 22, 2015, 10:08:21 PM

http://270soft.com/us-election-games/president-election-game-2016-infinity/

I'm actually trying to download it now but it says there is a virus :(

Are you downloading it from the linked website after purchase?

Yea, the download link fails.

After a hectic customer support episode, I finally got it to work! :D

President Infinity, here I come.
Post your results! Love to see em'!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on October 23, 2015, 12:23:05 PM
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Senator Robert Francis Kennedy/ Senator George Smathers- 265 Electoral votes: 42.5%

Fmr Vice President Richard Nixon/ Senator John Tower- 245 Electoral Votes: 42%

Governor George Wallace/ General Curtis LeMay- 28 Electoral Votes: 15.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 23, 2015, 05:17:58 PM
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Was playing as Clinton - Went on hard mode. Ugh.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 24, 2015, 10:06:38 AM
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Was playing as Clinton - Went on hard mode. Ugh.

How do you get elections so far back? It seems like I can only play 2016, 2012, 2008, 1968, and 1912.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 25, 2015, 11:33:08 AM
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Was playing as Clinton - Went on hard mode. Ugh.

How do you get elections so far back? It seems like I can only play 2016, 2012, 2008, 1968, and 1912.
http://campaigns.270soft.com/
User Made Campaigns - There is everything from 1788 - 1956, A Couple What-If's for 2008, 2012, and 2016. And a 2020 and 2024 scenarios.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 25, 2015, 11:40:03 AM
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Was playing as Clinton - Went on hard mode. Ugh.

How do you get elections so far back? It seems like I can only play 2016, 2012, 2008, 1968, and 1912.
http://campaigns.270soft.com/
User Made Campaigns - There is everything from 1788 - 1956, A Couple What-If's for 2008, 2012, and 2016. And a 2020 and 2024 scenarios.

OMG THANK YOU

This basically multiplies the uses of the game by at least ten.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 25, 2015, 06:27:38 PM
President Infinity 2016 - Darthebearnc's First Game

Democratic Primary Results:

Since Biden didn't endorse, his delegates were split pretty evenly between Clinton and Sanders, providing no overwhelming advantage for either. Though Webb endorsed Clinton, he had hardly any delegates to begin with, so his support didn't prove to be that helpful overall. However, O'Malley's late endorsement of Sanders certainly helped the Senator, most likely giving him just enough delegates to win the nomination (Clinton likely would have won if she had O'Malley's support).

The final delegate count for the Democratic Party was 2887 delegates for Sanders to 2633 delegates for Clinton, with the former passing the 2761 delegate threshold needed to gain a majority.

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Bernie Sanders (I-VT) - 2887 Delegates; 39.2% Popular Vote
Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 2633 Delegates; 40.8% Popular Vote
Joe Biden (D-DE) - 0 Delegates; 8.9% Popular Vote
Martin O'Malley (D-MD) - 0 Delegates; 8.3% Popular Vote
Jim Webb (D-VA) - 0 Delegates; 2.8% Popular Vote

Republican Primary Results:

As endorsements were mostly scattered and highly irrelevant in the GOP (some candidates did not endorse), they did little to help or detract from Bush's candidacy or overall delegate count. However, quite a substantial number of delegates did shift in support of Jindal (the most recent runner-up) during the last weeks of the race, giving him the second highest total number of delegates. Overall, all but four of the candidates (Walker, Santorum, Christie, Carson) still had delegates by the convention, with delegates formerly pledged to said candidates likely switching their support to either Bush, Jindal, or another remaining candidate. I find it interesting that some candidates lost some of their delegates after dropping out but were able to keep others (for example, while Perry lost his Texas delegates after dropping out, he still had delegates in South Carolina).

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Jeb Bush (R-FL) - 1439 Delegates; 24.2% Popular Vote
Bobby Jindal (R-LA) - 359 Delegates; 10.8% Popular Vote
John Kasich (R-OH) - 181 Delegates; 8.6% Popular Vote
Carly Fiorina (R-CA) - 118 Delegates; 7.6% Popular Vote
Donald Trump (R-NY) - 91 Delegates; 4.3% Popular Vote
Ted Cruz (R-TX) - 56 Delegates; 5.3% Popular Vote
Rick Perry (R-TX) - 50 Delegates; 3.1% Popular Vote
Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 49 Delegates; 7.5% Popular Vote
Rand Paul (R-KY) - 45 Delegates; 2.8% Popular Vote
Lindsey Graham (R-SC) - 42 Delegates; 2.6% Popular Vote
Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 40 Delegates; 6.1% Popular Vote
Ben Carson (R-MD) - 0 Delegates; 5.0% Popular Vote
Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 0 Delegates; 4.7% Popular Vote
Rick Santorum (R-PA) - 0 Delegates; 4.6% Popular Vote
Scott Walker (R-WI) - 0 Delegates; 2.8% Popular Vote

Candidates labeled in gray failed to win the popular vote in more than one state during the primaries. The six states colored in gray on the map were won by Bobby Jindal (Delaware), Mike Huckabee (Virginia), Rand Paul (Kentucky), Lindsey Graham (Massachusetts), Marco Rubio (Kansas), and Chris Christie (Alabama).

Conclusion:

After the DC primaries, both Bush and Sanders were able to secure their party nominations with ease, and chose Susana Martinez and Elizabeth Warren as their respective running mates. Nothing really happened during the few weeks leading up to the conventions, as the general election had not yet started and neither candidate really needed to campaign.

Overall, I'm pretty happy that Bush and Sanders won their respective primaries, but don't really know what to do in the GE because I control both of the candidates. I'll probably just let Sanders crush Bush for fun and see how many states he can win. :P

Best $20 I've ever spent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on October 25, 2015, 07:54:41 PM
I forgot how amazing President Forever is when your first play it-I've been playing it for so long that I expect O'Malley to win Iowa, and Jindal to win New Hampshire.

Darthebernc the best advice for PF is to fundraise like hell, and focus on the later states more so than Iowa and NH-to boast I've never lost either but I've often lost from spending too much time/Money on them.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 25, 2015, 09:28:28 PM
President Infinity 2016 - Darthebearnc's First Game

General Election Results:

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✓ Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 320 Electoral Votes; 49.1% Popular Votes
Jeb Bush (R-FL)/Susana Martinez (R-NM) - 218 Electoral Votes; 50.9% Popular Votes

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Overall, while Bernie Sanders did manage a sizeable win, I'm pretty disappointed with the result. As I was in control of both candidates, I planned to have a 100% Bernslide come into effect, but regardless of what I did, it just didn't seem to work.

When the General Election phase began, the GOP had a major advantage in the Electoral College, set to win almost 400 EVs and to have a ten-point popular vote margin over the Democrats. During the first round, I attempted to completely annihilate the Bush campaign, changing every issue in his platform to the far left and causing him to lose Energy Points by barnstorming incessantly in Utah only. However, this for some reason did not work, as the platform change hardly affected Bush and he didn't seem to make any gaffes, even as a low-energy candidate (:P). Furthermore, Bush won two of the three presidential debates with no debate preparation, and maintained an insufferable lead in the national popular vote throughout the campaign.

However, by heavy use of campaigning, advertisements, and surrogates, Sanders was eventually able to gain some ground. The ten major swing states in the race seemed to be OR, NM, MN, WI, MO, IN, OH, NC, FL, and (surprisingly) even VT. Meanwhile, NV, CO, IA, VA, and NH were solid Bush through and through, which is surprising considering the tossup status of a few previous Romney states.

On election night, I managed to win nine of the ten swing states, only losing MN by less than a one-point margin. However, Bush and Martinez did somehow capture the popular vote, which was for some reason impenetrably pro-GOP throughout the campaign. Hilariously enough, the best state for the GOP was Nevada, which went for Bush with >80%. Meanwhile, for some reason, every single state won by the Democrats did so with >50% (DC went with >90%). Quite a few Sanders states were in the 58%-59% area, though, so I'm sad that they didn't get the bump to >60%.

Overall, I'm pretty disappointed, as there is virtually no way Bush could have maintained a majority of the popular vote or even one single Electoral Vote after changing his entire platform to that of the far left and not spending a single day campaigning outside of Utah. However, Sanders was able to go from only around 100 EVs in August to >300 by the end of the campaign cycle, so at least there's that.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on October 25, 2015, 10:17:44 PM
Once popularity is fixed, this game will be so much more fun. BTW nice job dar, I really like the primary maps and everything. The AAR style is so cool.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 27, 2015, 06:58:14 PM
2012 - The Romney Disaster

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Republican Nomination:

- Mitt Romney
- Rick Santorum
- Newt Gingrich
- Ron Paul
- Rick Perry
- Michelle Bachmann
- Jon Huntsman

Democratic Nomination:

- Barack Obama

I played Romney. The simulation included all major candidates from both parties still in the running by December 5, 2011 (seven Republicans and one Democrat). While President Obama (obviously) won the Democratic nomination without any sort of struggle, the Republican nomination was much more contested, with initial polling indicating 28.8% of support for Gingrich, 21.2% for Romney, 12.5% for Perry, 8.6% for Paul, 4.3% for Bachmann, 2.6% for Santorum, and 1.8% for Huntsman. Gingrich was also safely in the lead in all but ten of the fifty states, with Romney taking New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Utah, and Nevada, Gingrich-Romney tossups in New York, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, and Rhode Island, and Perry leading in Texas.

While prospects were initially bleak for Romney, this quickly changed, as effective ad buys and heavy campaigning overall helped Mitt gain momentum quickly and propelled him to easy victories in the early states of IA, NH, SC, FL, and NV. Mittmentum proved to be a lasting influence, as Romney continued to clinch victories without much of a struggle and, though Gingrich was able to experience a short revival mid-campaign due to the abrupt early dropouts and Gingrich endorsements of Santorum, Bachmann, and Huntsman (none of whom ever gained momentum), Mitt was able to maintain his lead in the polls.

Surprisingly, Perry dropped out shortly before Texas (a state he was poised to win), though his endorsement of Gingrich did little to help the latter overall. Determined to make sure all of the other candidates did not endorse Gingrich, Romney struck a late endorsement deal with Paul, which actually helped him substantially towards the end of the primary season (especially in West Virginia, Kentucky, and Arkansas, three states that were all for Gingrich by >20% just a few weeks before their primary contests but eventually transferred to Romney due to a strong campaign and rigorous ad use).

In the end, Romney won all but nine states, similar to the immense electoral margin that Gingrich had at the beginning of the primary season. #Romneymentum spread across the Republican Party full-force, and resulted in a beautiful primary victory to be remembered for ages.

Republican Party Primary Results:

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Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 1697 Delegates; 51.6% PV
Newt Gingrich (R-GA) - 589 Delegates; 39.2% PV
Rick Perry (R-TX) - 0 Delegates; 4.7% PV
Ron Paul (R-TX) - 0 Delegates; 2.3% PV
Rick Santorum (R-PA) - 0 Delegates; 0.7% PV
Michelle Bachmann (R-MN) - 0 Delegates; 0.7% PV
Jon Huntsman (R-UT) - 0 Delegates; 0.7% PV

The General Election:

The 2012 General Election was, for lack of a better word, a virtual disaster for the Romney campaign. Ever since late in the primary season, Obama had developed an inexplicably yet overwhelmingly large lead in both the popular vote and the electoral vote, and despite Mitt's best efforts, nothing could be done to overturn this. Romney worked as hard as he possibly could to conduct an effective campaign and win over the people of America, but his efforts were fruitless. Campaigning seemed to do nothing but further damage Romney's chances, and so I decided to sit the last month or so before the election out and not campaign at all. The results were hilarious:

General Election Results:

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Barack Obama (D-IL)/Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 403 Electoral Votes; 60.7% Popular Vote
Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 135 Electoral Votes; 39.3% Popular Vote

Yeah, I'm not sure why Obama decided to choose Hillary Clinton as his running mate, but he did, so...

The Democrats swept the electoral map in November, winning more than 60% of the popular vote and more than 400 electoral votes. Obama's largest margins were in CO, WI, MI, and DC, all of which were won with >90%. I don't really have anything else to say other than that I'm kind of disappointed in President Infinity for such iffy results (I'm not complaining about losing the election overall, but >90% in CO and WI? Really?)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 28, 2015, 10:44:58 PM
2016 - Game Changer

Having completed a 2016 run with all of the actual candidates in the race, I decided to try something different - the same year, but essentially an entirely different group of 2016 contenders.

Republican Nomination:

- Rick Santorum
- Susana Martinez
- Rob Portman
- John Thune
- Mike Pence
- Sarah Palin
- Brian Sandoval
- Nikki Haley

Democratic Nomination:

- Martin O'Malley
- Elizabeth Warren
- Brian Schweitzer
- Mark Warner
- Cory Booker
- Andrew Cuomo
- Kirsten Gillibrand
- Amy Klobuchar

Sixteen candidates total; eight Republicans and eight Democrats. Only Santorum and O'Malley stayed in the pool. I chose to play as Brian Sandoval in the GOP and Amy Klobuchar in the Democrats; both parties had clear initial frontrunners who, unfortunately, were not my candidates.

The Republican primaries started out with Sarah Palin (strangely) as a clear favorite, garnering 29.4% of the popular vote compared to 14% for Haley, 9.3% for Santorum, 8.3% for Thune, 7.5% for Portman, 5.8% for Martinez, 3.3% for Pence, and a mere 2.5% for the dead-last Sandoval. Meanwhile, Elizabeth Warren immediately became the obvious frontrunner for the Democrats, boasting 33.9% of the PV against 14.3% for Cuomo, 7.1% for Klobuchar, 6.9% for Booker, 6.7% for Gillibrand, 3.9% for O'Malley, 3.6% for Schweitzer, and 3.5% for Warner. While Palin controlled the polls in all but eleven states (Sandoval had only Nevada), Warren began with a stunning lead in forty-six (none for Klobuchar).

Both Sandoval and Klobuchar began their bids by campaigning heavily in Iowa, with each round going conveniently much faster due to my realizing that changing the issues with which one campaigns has virtually no effect on polling performance. Both captured Iowa with ease, though unfortunately, neither gained much momentum afterwards. Up next was New Hampshire, where both candidates started off hopelessly behind but eventually managed to gain top-tier places in the polls. While Sandoval beat his opponents in NH handily, Klobuchar lost by a razor-thin margin to Warner (who had taken a surprisingly large recent surge in polling). Klobuchar lost in South Carolina to Schweitzer by a similar margin (Schweitzer had also experienced an abruptly large recent poll surge), though Sandoval was able to manage a victory yet again (as well as one in his home state, Nevada).

By this time, though the early primaries and caucuses had ended, no candidate seemed to be gaining much momentum, with the GOP primaries still being mainly contested between Palin/Haley and Warren/Cuomo remaining as the top Democrats. However, both Sandoval and Klobuchar were able to capture a plurality of the Super Tuesday states (a date that I usually don't do well in), which, contrary to what I expected, actually provided sizeable polling boosts for both candidates. Sandoval was now virtually tied for second place in the GOP with Haley (Palin was still in the lead though shrinking fast), and Klobuchar had somehow managed to squeeze her way in front of even Warren among the Democrats.

Over the next few weeks, both Sandoval and Klobuchar continued to gain significant amounts of momentum for no clear reason other than winning Super Tuesday, and by FL/IL/OH/MO, both candidates were safely in the lead. A surprisingly large amount of dropouts followed (including that of Palin), and by the end of the primary season, both Klobuchar and Sandoval had won their respective party nominations with sizeable leads in both popular vote and delegate count (however, this was not helped by the fact that literally every drop out in either party decided to endorse someone else).

Republican Party Primary Results:

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✓ Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 31.9% Popular Vote; 1852 Delegates
Nikki Haley (R-SC) - 17.9% Popular Vote; 411 Delegates
Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 8.2% Popular Vote; 72 Delegates
Rick Santorum (R-PA) - 12.2% Popular Vote; 55 Delegates
Mike Pence (R-IN) - 7.4% Popular Vote; 42 Delegates
John Thune (R-SD) - 12.3% Popular Vote; 38 Delegates
Rob Portman (R-OH) - 6.2% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates
Susana Martinez (R-NM) - 3.9% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates

Democratic Party Primary Results:

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✓ Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - 32% Popular Vote; 2844 Delegates
Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 25.1% Popular Vote; 2676 Delegates
Mark Warner (D-VA) - 12.6% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates
Andrew Cuomo (D-NY) - 8.3% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates
Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) - 7.9% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates
Cory Booker (D-NJ) - 5.9% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates
Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) - 5.2% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates
Martin O'Malley (D-MD) - 3.1% Popular Vote; 0 Delegates

General Election Results:

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✓ Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)/Sherrod Brown (D-OH) - 352 Electoral Votes; 52.2% Popular Vote
Brian Sandoval (R-NV)/Susana Martinez (R-NM) - 186 Electoral Votes; 47.8% Popular Vote

As I controlled both of the candidates in the General Election, I decided to play as Klobuchar in order to destroy the Sandoval campaign to the maximum extent possible. I changed all of Sandoval's positions to the far-left and prevented him from campaigning whatsoever, though (and this is one of my many qualms with President Infinity) doing so was to no avail. Though Klobuchar was able to go from a 100-EV deficit at the beginning of the GE to a sizeable 352-Electoral Vote lead at the end, this situation should have mandated a 538-EV sweep for Klobuchar in real life, which obviously did not happen. I was especially disappointed with Indiana, New Hampshire, and Iowa, all of which I was poised to win but did not. Regardless, however, I'm actually quite proud with this campaign - still the best $20 I ever spent :P.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on October 29, 2015, 06:39:28 AM
Am I the only person who plays as one candidate?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on October 30, 2015, 06:36:12 AM
Am I the only person who plays as one candidate?

I find it more interesting to play as a candidate from each of the parties, personally. But then again, it does make the GEs kind of silly if you win both primaries :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on October 30, 2015, 12:36:27 PM
Am I the only person who plays as one candidate?
No, we all do. Dar just likes to crush Republicans.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on November 03, 2015, 06:45:16 PM
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√ Senator Kelly Ayotte/Speaker of the House Paul Ryan - 289 EV (51.5%)
Congresswoman Cheri Bustos/Attorney General Kamala Harris - 256 EV (48.5%)

Interestingly, Ayotte won 64% of the vote in Florida.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on November 03, 2015, 10:37:32 PM
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√ President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Sec. of State Colin Powell (R-NY) - 279 EV (50.3%)
Rev. Al Sharpton (D-NY)/Fmr. Sen Carol Mosley Braun(D-IL) - 259 EV (47.5%)
Mr. Ralph Nader(G-CT)/Peter Camejo(G-CA) - 0 EV (2.8%)

I tried playing the old President Forever (like the first one). I suck at it! It was a fun game though, I like older games even if they are a bit buggy. If only Iowa and WI had flipped, then we would of had President Sharpton!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on November 04, 2015, 05:58:21 PM
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lmao


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on November 07, 2015, 03:26:33 PM
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Played with Kerry/Clinton against Bush/Cheney on medium difficulty; started with a 272-266 electoral deficit but ended up here. I was less than two points away from victory in Indiana, Arizona, Arkansas, and Colorado. Satisfying performance overall.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on November 07, 2015, 07:00:45 PM
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Played as Powell on medium difficulty in 2004; results are hilarious. For some reason Braun had an unexplained last-minute surge in the week before the election - if she hadn't, WA, OR, NV, AZ, NM, MN, IA, MO, WI, IL, MD, PA, NH, and ME all would have easily been mine.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on November 11, 2015, 06:24:57 PM
You really are young aren't you? :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: kajkajete on November 14, 2015, 02:53:12 PM
Does anybody have the full version of president infinity 2016 for free? I would love to buy it but there is no chance I can afford it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on November 22, 2015, 08:20:38 PM
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Governor Brian Schweitzer/Senator Cory Booker - 193 EV, 25.9%
Governor Mike Pence/Governor Brian Sandoval - 166 EV, 29.2%
Senator Bernie Sanders/Representative Keith Ellison - 143 EV, 15.3%
Mr. Donald Trump/Mr. Donald Trump, Jr. - 22 EV, 15.8%
Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Secretary Charles Hagel - 14 EV, 8.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on November 24, 2015, 08:21:39 PM
2004 Democratic Primaries
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John Edwards
Howard Dean
John Kerry
Dick Gephardt

Howard Dean started out with pretty much a nationwide lead. However, his stock soon began to fall, and John Kerry and John Edwards jostled in the early states. John Edwards' strategy revolved around winning Iowa and New Hampshire. This led to abysmal numbers for Edwards in New Mexico, Arizona, Missouri, North Dakota and Oklahoma. However, Edwards pushed forward in South Carolina, Michigan, Maine, Washington, and Virginia, winning South Carolina by 14%, Michigan by 12%, and Maine by 11%. In Virginia and Washington, Edwards dealt a damaging blow to Howard Dean, who lost by 3% and 2% respectively in tightly fought battles. John Edwards rode a wave of momentum from these wins, securing endorsements from figures such as Bill Clinton. Some of Edwards' biggest wins followed soon after, such as a 34% victory margin in Tennessee and a 27% victory margin in Wisconsin, once thought to be a strong state for Howard Dean. Edwards won all of the March 2nd primaries except for Vermont (Dean) and Massachusetts (Kerry) which he lost by 7% and 6% respectively. These strong performances in opponents' home states relayed to pundits increasing confidence in an Edwards nomination. After huge 29% wins in Minnesota and New York in this span of time, Edwards had to face a momentary Dean/Kerry resurgence. Both Kerry and Dean polled highly in Ohio, but Edwards eked out a 7% win. Dean's true final stand occurred in California, where he finished with 33% to Edwards' 39%. In Texas, Dean finished 10% behind Edwards, who continued to surge. Also notable from this time is Wes Clark's win in the Northern Mariana Islands, his first since Arizona and New Mexico. After then, Edwards mopped up, winning all the remaining primaries by at least a margin of 16%, minus an 11% win in Alaska. Howard Dean picked up 37% in Oregon, but his hopes were long dead by then. The last few primaries were massive Edwards victories. The Edwards campaign had clinched the nomination and chose John McCain as VP.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on November 25, 2015, 11:38:46 AM
2016 Republican Primaries

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John Kasich
Marco Rubio
Carly Fiorina
Donald Trump
Ben Carson


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on November 25, 2015, 11:50:19 AM
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Governor John Kasich/Senator John Thune - 337 EV, 50.2%
Secretary Hillary Clinton/Senator Bill Nelson - 187 EV, 44.7%
Governor Gary Johnson/Mr. Jim Gray - 14 EV, 4.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on December 02, 2015, 07:29:36 PM
New edition just released...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on December 09, 2015, 12:00:43 PM
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Senator Marco Rubio/Governor Brian Sandoval - 320 EV, 42%
Senator Jim Webb/Senator Joe Manchin - 182 EV, 19.9%
Secretary Hillary Clinton/Governor Martin O'Malley - 33 EV, 18.5%
Senator Bernie Sanders/Representative Keith Ellison - 3 EV, 6.6%
Mr. Donald Trump/Mr. Carl Icahn - 0 EV, 12.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on December 09, 2015, 12:49:35 PM
Electoral College
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President George HW Bush/Vice President Dan Quayle - 211 EV, 28.6%
Governor Mario Cuomo/Senator Al Gore - 210 EV, 45.4%
Mr. H. Ross Perot/Vice Admiral James Stockdale - 117 EV, 25.1%

House Vote
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Senator Al Gore - 30 States
President George HW Bush - 11 States
Mr. H. Ross Perot - 5 States
Split - 4 States


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on December 11, 2015, 08:16:06 PM
Democratic Primary, 2016

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Former Governor Martin O'Malley - 54.5% PV, 3282 Delegates
Former Secretary Hillary Clinton - 42.8% PV, 2238 Delegates
Former Governor Lincoln Chafee - 2.6% PV, 0 Delegates

(Note: I'm playing a scenario where Trump, Webb, and Sanders are all running as independents.)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on December 11, 2015, 08:37:11 PM
2016 Presidential Election

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Governor John Kasich/Senator Tim Scott - 246 EV, 33.6% PV
Former Senator Jim Webb/Former Governor Jon Huntsman - 152 EV, 12.7% PV
Former Governor Martin O'Malley/Senator Maria Cantwell - 119 EV, 24.1% PV
Mr. Donald Trump/Senator Ted Cruz - 11 EV, 13.6% PV
Senator Bernie Sanders/Representative Keith Ellison - 10 EV, 7.9% PV

House Vote

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John Kasich - 31 States
Martin O'Malley - 12 States
Divided Vote - 4 States
Jim Webb - 3 States


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on December 12, 2015, 12:28:18 AM
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Carly Fiorina/Brian Sandoval - 308 EVs, 52.8% PV
Hillary Clinton/Amy Klobuchar - 230 EVs, 47.2 PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on December 12, 2015, 04:46:23 PM
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Carly Fiorina/Brian Sandoval - 308 EVs, 52.8% PV
Hillary Clinton/Amy Klobuchar - 230 EVs, 47.2 PV
Klobuchar on the ticket and losing MN, but winning WV... wat.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on December 15, 2015, 01:02:02 PM
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Governor John Kasich/Senator Marco Rubio - 363 EV, 40.7% PV

Former Senator Jim Webb/Mr. Greg Orman - 89 EV, 18.4% PV
Mr. Donald Trump/Sen. Ted Cruz - 66 EV, 12.9% PV
Former Secretary Hillary Clinton/Senator Tim Kaine - 17 EV, 19.8%
Senator Bernie Sanders/Representative Keith Ellison - 3 EV, 8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on December 18, 2015, 12:05:53 PM
Ron Paul (R-TX) - 16.1% (5 delegates)
Newt Gingrich (R-GA) - 15.8% (4 delegates)
Michele Bachmann (R-MN) - 15.6% (4 delegates)
Jon Huntsman [ME] (R-UT) - 15.0% (4 delegates)
Rick Santorum (R-PA) - 14.6% (4 delegates)
Mitt Romney (R-MA) - 14.1% (4 delegates)
Rick Perry (R-TX) - 8.8% (3 delegates)

Iowa be weird, yo.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on December 18, 2015, 02:42:22 PM
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Fmr. Governor Howard Dean (D-VT)/Mr. Keith Russell Judd (D-KY) - 31.1%, 236 EV's

Businessman Fred Smith (R-TN)/Fmr. Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN) - 30.6%, 185 EV's
Fmr. Chief of Staff Erskine Bowles (AE-NC)/Fmr. Governor Buddy Roemer (AE-LA) - 26.5%, 117 EV's
Mr. Carl Person (L-NY)/Mr. Jim Gray (L-CA) - 7.2%
Ms. Cindy Sheheen/Mr. Kent Mesplay (G-CA) - 4.2%
Fmr. Congressman Virgil Goode (C-VA)/Mr. Darrell Castle (C-TN) - 0.4%

Here's a handsoff on my uber-edited 2012 scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on December 19, 2015, 12:34:28 PM
T-PAW for President
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President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 48.2%, 313 EVs
Former Governor Tim Pawlenty (R-MN)/Former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GE) - 49.7%, 225 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on December 19, 2015, 01:40:42 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on December 21, 2015, 02:25:32 AM
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Red-Clinton
Light Red-Clinton Leading at Sanders Drop Out
Green-Sanders
Light Green-Sanders leading at Sanders Drop Out
Grey-Tie at Sanders Drop Out

Has anyone won the nomination as Sanders? After pulling off wins in the first four contests, I opened up a seven point lead on Clinton, however that was dashed after she swept the southern primaries. My leads started to evaporate after that, and after my .4% loss in Wisconsin, I knew it was over. I held on until after the Pennsylvania primary, and then dropped out and endorsed her. I think I'm going to try this with Biden turned off for good, and not just undecided. His supporters breaking random ways the day of the primary really killed me, especially once Clinton got momentum.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on December 21, 2015, 08:39:19 AM
Strange things happen in editing (2004).

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Senator Joe Lieberman (D-CT)/Congressman Dick Gephardt (D-MO) - 41.1%, 339 EVs

President George W. Bush (R-TX)/Congressman John Kasich (R-OH) - 30.1%, 182 EVs
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)/Mr. Howie Hawkins (G-NY) - 27.3%, 17 EVs


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on December 21, 2015, 11:08:27 AM
Decided to try Kasich in 2000.

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Congressman John Kasich (R-OH)/Govenror John Ashcroft (R-MO) - 49.8%, 408 EVs
Senator Bob Graham (D-FL)/Governor Jean Shaheen (D-NH) - 37.0%, 130 EVs
Mr. Ralph Nader (G-CT)/Ms. Winona LaDuke (G-MN) - 7.4%
Mr. Pat Buchanan (R-VA)/Ms. Ezola Foster (R-CA) - 5.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on December 22, 2015, 10:04:06 PM
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Blue (regular) = Rubio (me)
Green = Fiorina
Red (Dark) = Trump
Red (Regular) = Cruz
Blue (Light) = Huckabee

currently get killed in the general.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on December 22, 2015, 10:07:05 PM
Yup murdered on election night.

Florida: 69% to 30% Hillary lol


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on December 24, 2015, 12:37:18 PM
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Was playing as Clinton - Went on hard mode. Ugh.

How do you get elections so far back? It seems like I can only play 2016, 2012, 2008, 1968, and 1912.
http://campaigns.270soft.com/
User Made Campaigns - There is everything from 1788 - 1956, A Couple What-If's for 2008, 2012, and 2016. And a 2020 and 2024 scenarios.

Ok, im im trying to download it. how do i actually get it on my game file? its just downloading as a separate file?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on December 24, 2015, 12:52:45 PM
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Was playing as Clinton - Went on hard mode. Ugh.

How do you get elections so far back? It seems like I can only play 2016, 2012, 2008, 1968, and 1912.
http://campaigns.270soft.com/
User Made Campaigns - There is everything from 1788 - 1956, A Couple What-If's for 2008, 2012, and 2016. And a 2020 and 2024 scenarios.

Ok, im im trying to download it. how do i actually get it on my game file? its just downloading as a separate file?
Computer>C: Drive>Program Files x86>President Infinity>Scenarios>Put File In>Open Game>Find Scenario


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on December 24, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
thank you!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on December 24, 2015, 05:52:32 PM
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there's this canadian parties mixed in w/ U.S. scenario thats pretty cool. won easily w/ Harper.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on December 25, 2015, 03:03:40 AM
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What a bizarre result...I lost the PV by like 8%! Not complaining, though! #Vandenberg1940


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on January 02, 2016, 04:53:14 PM
Follow Up to Previous Post
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Bush/Cheney-396-54.6%
Edwards/McCain-142-45.4%
Bit of a... strange result. I had a HUGE sum of money from fundraising by the end, but I was too lazy to use it all for ads. I probably could have gone more negative and beat Bush, or at least kept it close. Also, picking McCain was an AWFUL idea. I'll try to explain what probably went down.

Out West: Edwards probably dissed the west and also Mormons. John McCain somehow made everybody made in Arizona.

Minnesota: I guess Edwards made fun of their accents? Or called them Canadian.

Delaware and Maryland: Edwards probably decided to close down the Chesapeake Bay to mitigate environmental risk and merge Delaware into Maryland.

Maine: Edwards ran on banning lobster.

I have no clue these are really silly explanations.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on January 02, 2016, 05:04:31 PM
There's this custom 2020 election scenario someone made and I ran on third third party they made called "Modern Change Party." I ran with Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos with Dallas Mavericks Owner, and Shark Tank Co-Host Mark Cuban.

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Jon Stewart was the Democrat nominee; Michael Steele was GOP Nominee. I won 10.9% of the vote

Here were my ten best states, by percentage, with vote totals for those states listed:
- Texas: 18% (2.4 Million votes)
- Pennsylvania: 17% (1.2 Million votes)
- California: 16% (3.2 Million votes) (1.4% shy of overtaking the GOP as #2)
- New Mexico: 16% (176K votes)
- North Carolina: 15% (835K votes)
- Arizona: 14% (496K votes)
- Virginia: 13% (602K votes)
- Arkansas: 12% (191K votes)
- Indiana: 11% (427K votes)
- Florida: 11% (1.2 Million votes)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on January 02, 2016, 08:45:58 PM
how do people win a few states as third parties (not counting 1948 or 1968)? I always finish >20% in a few states but never enough to win a state :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on January 03, 2016, 12:28:02 AM
how do people win a few states as third parties (not counting 1948 or 1968)? I always finish >20% in a few states but never enough to win a state :(
They did it to simulate a "Perot" effect, I usually just ad swamp the 11 most populace states to get exactly 270 electoral votes, it's really fun. I usually win just shy of 25% of the PV without having to do a nationwide campaign. It's CA, TX, FL, NY, IL, PA, OH, MI, GA, NC, and NJ by the way.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on January 03, 2016, 03:50:18 AM
how do people win a few states as third parties (not counting 1948 or 1968)? I always finish >20% in a few states but never enough to win a state :(
They did it to simulate a "Perot" effect, I usually just ad swamp the 11 most populace states to get exactly 270 electoral votes, it's really fun. I usually win just shy of 25% of the PV without having to do a nationwide campaign. It's CA, TX, FL, NY, IL, PA, OH, MI, GA, NC, and NJ by the way.

thanks ill try that :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on January 03, 2016, 04:09:34 AM
how do people win a few states as third parties (not counting 1948 or 1968)? I always finish >20% in a few states but never enough to win a state :(

Managed to win Texas playing as Trump in a third party run-got 24% of the vote yet only 34 electoral votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Chancellor Tanterterg on January 03, 2016, 11:02:08 AM
P4E is still very much a thing?  I'd figured this thread was just for results from old versions.  Huh.  I remember when I first discovered that in mid-2004.  I made a decent 1972 scenario for P4E + Primaries (although since you can't set it up to fully adjust for the differences in how someone like Wallace would perform in some states compared to someone like McGovern, I had to try to guesstimate a reasonable middle ground) as well as a modified 1964 scenario (to account for George Wallace's candidacy when he challenged Johnson).  I wasn't sure how to post them though *shrug*  

I never could get into any of the subsequent versions and forgot about it (which is just as well because I haven't really had time for it the past few years).  In some ways P4E 2004 was probably my favorite (maybe because it was the first version I discovered).  I wish there was a way to set it so that each GE turn covered a week like with the primaries.  It'd speed things up a little and the length was probably one of the reasons I didn't play the game more often.  


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on January 03, 2016, 03:20:18 PM
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Lewis Cass (ND - MI)/Daniel Dickenson (D - NY) 138 EV
William Seward (R - NY)/Benjamin Wade (R - OH) 62 EV
John C. Breckinridge (SD - KY)/Joseph Lane (SD - NY) 78 EV
Millard Fillmore (CU - NY)/William Goggin (CU - VA) 27 EV

No one had a majority, but I (Cass) had enough congressional seats to win. I avoided the Civil War at least until 1864... I may make this a TL at some point, fun game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on January 03, 2016, 03:32:30 PM
I did horrible w/ Perot with ad-swamping hahah. i suck at third party runs. gonna try it again.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kingpoleon on January 03, 2016, 07:19:49 PM
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482: Fmr. Pres. Gerald Ford(R-MI)/Rep. Millicent Fenwick(R-NJ) - 45.6%
49: Pres. James Carter(D-GA)/Sen. Russell Long(D-LA) - 36.9%
7: Rep. John B. Anderson(I-IL)/Sen. Mike Gravel(I-AK) - 17.5%

Focused all my ads on AK and HI, as this is mostly a practice run. Now that I get the basics of how to run, I think I can go for an Easy run and do this:
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From there, I'll come up with a plausible story for the House to elect me.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on January 03, 2016, 09:33:13 PM
when you all are ad-swamping how many ad's per turn are we talking? i've been doing like 4-5 per turn for my targeted states and then i'd do stump speeches and rallies each turn in those states and am still losing badly in those states.

got 25% in maine on my last go
24% in montana
19% in kansas
16% in arizona


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on January 03, 2016, 09:56:58 PM
when you all are ad-swamping how many ad's per turn are we talking? i've been doing like 4-5 per turn for my targeted states and then i'd do stump speeches and rallies each turn in those states and am still losing badly in those states.

got 25% in maine on my last go
24% in montana
19% in kansas
16% in arizona
What ads are you using? Television? I usually ramp up mass newspaper ad production on a researched insight issue and then usually get about 80-100 ad power in the targeted state(s). I use Television rarely due to their incredulous expense and little power addition. Hope this helps!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on January 03, 2016, 10:45:42 PM
when you all are ad-swamping how many ad's per turn are we talking? i've been doing like 4-5 per turn for my targeted states and then i'd do stump speeches and rallies each turn in those states and am still losing badly in those states.

got 25% in maine on my last go
24% in montana
19% in kansas
16% in arizona
What ads are you using? Television? I usually ramp up mass newspaper ad production on a researched insight issue and then usually get about 80-100 ad power in the targeted state(s). I use Television rarely due to their incredulous expense and little power addition. Hope this helps!

Ah, that would explain it! Thanks :)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on January 06, 2016, 01:22:42 PM
Played the 2012 Republican Primaries as Bob Riley. Even though I won Iowa and South Carolina, a poor Super Tuesday performance left me in third for the rest of the race. This was the original map. Interestingly, all of the major contenders were Governors (plus, Gary Johnson was doing rather well for a while).

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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)

Governor Rick Perry (R-TX)
Former Governor Bob Riley (R-AL)

But...for some reason Perry dropped out. This was the map after that.

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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Former Governor Bob Riley (R-AL)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on January 06, 2016, 01:47:58 PM
This is what happened in the GE (If you're wondering about Clinton, I switched Obama off). I basically didn't campaign at all, since I had a hefty lead through-out.

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Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Governor Rick Scott (R-FL) - 41.8%, 316 Electoral Votes
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Former Vice President Al Gore (D-TN) - 35.3%, 222 Electoral Votes
Actress Rosanne Barr (G-CA)/Ms. Cheri Honkala (G-PA) - 16.5%
Others (Libertarian, Constitution) - 6.4%

Barr almost won Vermont.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on January 11, 2016, 12:07:59 AM
I have spoken with God, and he has abandoned us.

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Jill Stein won Rhode Island, Donald Trump won Ohio.

Full results:

Jeb Bush/Kelly Ayotte (REP): 32.2%, 280 EV
Michael Bloomberg/Lincoln Chafee (BLOOMBERG): 11.5%, 93 EV
Jim Webb/Angus King (WEBB): 10.7%, 80 EV
Hillary Clinton/Elizabeth Warren (DEM): 21.5%, 63 EV
Donald Trump/Jeff Sessions (TRUMP): 10.4%, 18 EV
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala (GRN): 4.2%, 4 EV
Bernie Sanders/Keith Ellison (SANDERS): 6%, 0 EV
Jesse Ventura/Jim Gray (LIB): 3.3%, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PaperKooper on January 31, 2016, 09:55:43 PM
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Senator Marco Rubio/Governor Nikki Haley - 47.2%, 378 Electoral Votes
Senator Bernie Sanders/Secretary Julian Castro - 43.5%, 160 Electoral Votes
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Former Secretary Charles Hagel - 5.1%
Former Governor Gary Johnson/Mr. Jim Gray - 2.2%
Dr. Jill Stein/Ms. Cheri Honkala - 2.0%

I led throughout the campaign and swept the swing states of New Hampshire, Oregon, Nevada, and New Mexico.  I won New York thanks to Bloomberg getting 17.8% there and Pennsylvania thanks to Johnson getting 7.7% there.  Bloomberg's best state was New York, Stein's was 8.1% in Washington and Michigan, and Johnson's was 9.8% in Minnesota.  


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on February 01, 2016, 01:47:19 PM
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Ms. Carly Fiorina (CA)/Gov. Scott Walker (WI) - 255 EV, 35.7% PV
Fmr. Sen. Jim Webb (VA)/Fmr. Mayor Michael Bloomberg (NY) - 252 EV, 22.9% PV
Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley (MD)/Sec. Julian Castro (TX) - 17 EV, 18.0% PV
Mr. Donald Trump (NY)/Sen. Jeff Sessions - 11 EV, 9.8% PV
Sen. Bernie Sanders (VT)/Rep. Keith Ellison (MN) - 3 EV, 5.9% PV
Ms. Jill Stein (MA)/Ms. Cheri Honkala (PA) - 0 EV, 4.1% PV
Fmr. Gov Gary Johnson (NM)/Mr. Jim Gray (CA) - 0 EV, 3.5% PV

Best and Worst States:
Candidate - Best, Worst
Fiorina - Nevada, New Mexico
Webb - New Jersey, New Hampshire
O'Malley - DC, New Mexico
Trump - Arizona, Texas
Sanders - Vermont, Colorado
Stein - New Mexico, Nevada
Johnson - New Mexico, Michigan/Oklahoma


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 02, 2016, 08:14:05 PM
Got another strange map.

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Marco Rubio/Tim Scott (24.6%, 139 EV)
Hillary Clinton/Martin O'Malley (20.8%, 123 EV)
Donald Trump/Ted Cruz (15.1%, 91 EV)
Jim Webb/Greg Orman (13.5%, 106 EV)
Michael Bloomberg/Angus King (13%, 75 EV)
Bernie Sanders/Keith Ellison (6%, 4 EV)
Jill Stein/Cheri Honkala (3.4%)
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura (3%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PaperKooper on February 03, 2016, 11:49:34 PM
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Senator Marco Rubio/Governor Scott Walker - 50.2%, 326 Electoral Votes
Fmr. Secretary Hillary Clinton/Secretary Julian Castro - 49.8%, 212 Electoral Votes

This was an computer versus computer game. 

Closest states:
Florida 0.0012%
Nevada 0.6%
Oregon 0.8%
Indiana 1.0%
Colorado 2.0%
Minnesota 2.2%
Ohio 2.4%
Iowa 2.8%
Washington 3.4%
Tennessee 4.2%
North Carolina 4.4%
New Hampshire 4.6%

Rubio won every state that was closer than New Hampshire (4.6%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on February 05, 2016, 01:16:33 AM
2006 Santos (D-TX) vs Vinick (R-CA)

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I played as Vinick and had an easy times holding my base states and keeping Santos on the defensive. If the undecided didn't break off in favor of Santos I would have won CT and NY which both ended up being 50-48. The only state undecideds swung in my favor for an upset win was in Texas which I won 51-48.

Over all I won 53-46-




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mike Thick on February 05, 2016, 11:35:33 PM
I played as Johnson (but didn't campaign) in a scenario where Romney ran and Trump stayed out, with a handful of candidates adjusted accordingly. Carson wound up winning the Republican nod after winning Iowa but losing South Carolina and New Hampshire to Kasich and Nevada to Cruz. Romney won a handful of states, including Georgia, Cruz won Texas, Oklahoma, and Massachusetts, and Kasich won only Ohio. Meanwhile, Clinton won every state and cruised to the nomination. Carson picked Tim Pawlenty as his veep, and Clinton picked O'Malley. Ultimately, it was the most lopsided landslide I've ever seen in the game.
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Hillary Clinton/Martin O'Malley: 74.5%, 538 EVs
Ben Carson/Tim Pawlenty: 24.5%, 0 EVs
Gary Johnson/Jim Gray: 1%, 0 EVs
Carson's best state was Kansas, where Clinton won only [sic] 55% of the vote. Clinton nearly broke 90% in Massachusetts, and Carson nearly fell below 3% in D.C.. Although I didn't campaign, I won about 11% in New Mexico, which is probably why Clinton was under 70% in the state. The downballot stuff for Republicans must have been mind-bogglingly awful: it's hard to imagine them holding more than a handful of House and Senate seats in such a crushing defeat.

I played this for a while a few months ago, and took a break. It was weird then. It's far weirder now.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 06, 2016, 01:29:01 AM
I'm going to have nightmares about that map.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kingpoleon on February 06, 2016, 04:34:24 AM
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279: Gov. Thomas Dewey(R-NY)/Sen. John Bricker(R-OH)
188: Vice Pres. John Nance Garner(D-TX)/Sen. Harry Truman(D-MO)
64: Fmr. Gov. Huey Long(People's-LA)/Sen. Burton Wheeler(P-MT)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mike Thick on February 06, 2016, 12:24:33 PM
So, in the 2012 scenario I turned Christie and Clinton on and let the computer do the work. It ended up being a heavily contested primary between Romney, Christie, and Gingrich all the way through. Christie took Iowa, Gingrich New Hampshire and Nevada, Paul South Carolina (for whatever reason), and Romney Florida. A few months out, it looked like there would be a brokered convention. However, Gingrich dropped out and endorsed Christie just before the end of the primary season, giving him just enough delegates to go over the line. He picked Bob McDonnell as his running mate.

Clinton led Obama in a few southern states and Nevada, but momentum from wins in New Hampshire and Iowa gave him a narrow win in the Silver State, and he easily won renomination.

Christie started the general in a deep hole (presumably due to the contentious primary) and I was surprised to see him trailing Obama in several Southern and Southwestern states. He did relatively well in the debates, but it wasn't enough.
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President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden: 56.9%, 379 EVs
New Jersey Governor Chris Christie/Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell: 41.6%, 159 EVs
Former New Mexico Governor Gary Johnson/Mr. Jim Gray: 1.2%, 0 EVs

I won't include percentages by state, but Obama won about 90% in Tennessee and Christie won about 70% in Florida. A last-minute momentum surge game Christie New Jersey and Wisconsin, but he still lost in a landslide/near landslide. Obama also cane within a few thousandvotes of winning Georgia. My best state was, strangely, North Carolina, where I got 2% to Christie's 13% and Obama's 85%.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 06, 2016, 11:11:14 PM
Put the most moderate Democratic ticket possible against the most moderate Republican ticket possible.

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Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA)/Gov. John Hickenlooper (D-CO) - 49.9%, 290 EV
Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. (R-UT)/Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 49.6%, 248 EV

States within 5%:

New Jersey
New Mexico
Wisconsin
Nevada

States within 10%:

Colorado
Michigan
New Hampshire
Ohio
Arizona
Iowa
Maine
North Carolina
Oregon


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 06, 2016, 11:46:25 PM
And now for the most liberal Democratic ticket against the most conservative Republican ticket.

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Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT)/Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 318 EV, 51.9%
Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA)/Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) - 220 EV, 47.7%

States within 5%:

Colorado
Maine
Nevada (decided by less than 1,500 votes)
New Mexico
Washington
Montana
New Hampshire
North Carolina
Wisconsin

States within 10%:

Florida
Iowa
Michigan
Minnesota
Pennsylvania
Arizona
Georgia
Missouri
South Dakota


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on February 07, 2016, 07:39:05 AM
Bizarre... I haven't played for a while.

I ran as my character in the 2008 Dem primaries. I won IA, NH, NV and Obama won SC. Clinton won a few during Super Tuesday, but the writing was on the wall, and she withdrew and endorsed me before mini-Tuesday (OH, TX, VT and RI) which I swept.  But Obama would not give up.

I secured the nomination after winning North Carolina. I then started running national ads and the Dem numbers jumped. However, Obama didn't withdraw and refused anything short of the VP slot... so it seemed.

So I went to the convention with Obama still there... I chose Bill Richardson. The following week, the GOP chose Romney (who had secured the nomination in April) and he chose Giuliani as his running mate. Probably due to the contested nature of the Dem convention, we went through a bad patch.

Our numbers collapsed.

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I got into a trough that I couldn't get out of, hit with scandals and just needed to dump money all over the shop. I picked up across the mid-west and the upper south in the last two weeks and I slipped on the west coast.

I surged in the national polls from being down 45-49 to drawing almost even 47-48.

This was the end...

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I spent too much time and money in states like TX which I only lost by 2% and yes, I lost CA 1.4%

284 EV - 49.5%
254 EV - 50.5%


Romney only cracked 60% in AL and UT but I did it in MA, CT and RI. I also won VA and TN by a greater margin that I did OR, WA, PA, WI and MI.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PaperKooper on February 11, 2016, 04:42:53 PM
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Businessman Rocky De La Fuente/Professor Larry Lessig - 51.6%, 347 Electoral Votes
Former Commissioner Mark Everson/Former Governor Jim Gilmore - 48.4%, 191 Electoral Votes

The terrorist attack at the debate scenario was a easy win for the centrist De La Fuente.  


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 12, 2016, 02:50:23 AM
So I created a scenario where none of the actual candidates were running. Instead, the following candidates ran:

Democratic

Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO)
Governor Deval Patrick (D-MA)
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)
Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)

Republican

Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)
Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Senator John Thune (R-SD)
Ambassador Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)
Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)
Governor Mike Pence (R-IN)
Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV)

Will post primary maps soon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 12, 2016, 03:39:04 AM
I don't know how to explain this...

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Joe Biden/Amy Klobuchar - 50.2%, 266 EVs
Mitt Romney/Marco Rubio - 44.3%, 272 EVs

Both Johnson and Stein got around 3% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on February 16, 2016, 03:38:32 AM
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Former Senator Rick Santorum/Former Governor Tim Pawlenty - 242 EV (49.6%)
President Barack Obama/Vice President Joe Biden - 296 EV (48.7%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on February 16, 2016, 11:47:10 AM
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Mr. H. Ross Perot/Adm. James Stockdale - 273
Sen. Paul Tsongas/Sen. Tom Harkin - 256
Pres. George HW Bush/VP Dan Quayle - 9


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on February 17, 2016, 05:01:42 PM
2016: Believe In America Again

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Former Governor Mitt Romney/Senator Marco Rubio - 293 EV (50.4%)
Former Sec. Hilary Clinton/Sec. Julian Castro - 245 EV (49.2%)

Closest states: Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Wisconsin Colorado, Florida.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on February 18, 2016, 08:31:55 AM
This was my attempt at a Santorum run. Yeah, it's weak.

Republican Primary:
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✓ Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)
Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL)
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX)
Former Senator Rick Santorum (R-PA)


Democratic Primary:
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✓ Former Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
Former Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 20, 2016, 04:49:37 PM
So I created a scenario where none of the actual candidates were running. Instead, the following candidates ran:

Democratic

Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO)
Governor Deval Patrick (D-MA)
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)
Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)

Republican

Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)
Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Senator John Thune (R-SD)
Ambassador Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)
Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)
Governor Mike Pence (R-IN)
Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV)

Will post primary maps soon.
President Forever Infinity or 2008? If it is 2008, I'd love to play it!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on February 20, 2016, 10:34:43 PM
So I created a scenario where none of the actual candidates were running. Instead, the following candidates ran:

Democratic

Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE)
Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
Governor Andrew Cuomo (D-NY)
Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN)
Governor John Hickenlooper (D-CO)
Governor Deval Patrick (D-MA)
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY)
Senator Cory Booker (D-NJ)
Governor Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)
Senator Mark Warner (D-VA)

Republican

Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)
Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)
Governor Nikki Haley (R-SC)
Senator John Thune (R-SD)
Ambassador Jon Huntsman (R-UT)
Senator Rob Portman (R-OH)
Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)
Governor Mike Pence (R-IN)
Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV)

Will post primary maps soon.
President Forever Infinity or 2008? If it is 2008, I'd love to play it!

Infinity.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on March 04, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
President Trump... Thanks Congress...
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✓ Donald Trump (R - NY)/Jeff Sessions (R - AL) - 211 E.V.
Hillary Clinton (D - NY)/Tim Kaine (D - VA) - 257 E.V.
Michael Bloomberg (I - NY)/Jim Webb (D/I - VA) - 70 E.V.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on March 06, 2016, 08:55:41 PM
Such a weird map

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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/ Senator Tim Kaine- 49.5%

Senator Ted Cruz/ Mrs Carly Fiorina-50.5%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on March 17, 2016, 04:30:25 PM
Very HIGH ENERGY run as Christie in 2016 from January. Ruby Ridge took Iowa in a big upset, but I dented his momentum with a win in New Hampshire. However, there was a very weird surge from Jeb in South Carolina, that eventually turned out to matter very little. I didn't get my break until Super Tuesday, where I took a few states. Unfortunately, Cruz had been #dominating for a while, and stole a few states, such as Michigan, from under my nose. My great campaign infrastructure kept me alive in places like the northeast, and I had an important victory in New York to boost me to tieing with Trump. Soon after, I poured all of my resources into California to block Cruz. He won, and I thought it was all over after that.

Then came Trump's endorsement.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on March 19, 2016, 09:38:47 PM
Apparently no Dean Scream in this alternate universe.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on March 24, 2016, 06:01:51 AM
Why does Trump always get slaughtered in the debates?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on March 24, 2016, 09:14:30 PM
Had an epic dog fight with Ben Carson for the GOP Nomination. I played as Jeb Bush.

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Green = Bush
Blue = Carson

I started off with a slew of strong wins in IA, NH, SC, NV but then after the first super tuesday Carson started polling virtually even with me.

I won a bunch of states by <1% and I lost a bunch of states by  <1%. I clinched the nomination in june by barely holding on to my lead in Cali, winning 52-48% and pulling an upset in Montana, like 50.4-49.6%.

Biggest win for me was, unsurprisingly, Florida: 69-31%.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Spamage on March 25, 2016, 12:10:51 AM
Realignment anyone?

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I edited the Trump photo with the scenario editor.

Played as Sanders starting in October and won Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, and even South Carolina. Clinton's last real resistance was on Super Tuesday where she took Georgia, Arkansas, Texas, and Minnesota, with me sweeping everything else. I made her my veep at the end of the primary. For the Republicans, Trump won fairly early but I managed to win the endorsement of Romney, the Bushes, Bloomberg, and Dick Cheney.

I love the fact Trump won Ohio, Virginia, and Florida but still lost the election.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on March 25, 2016, 07:42:06 AM
Can't Ebb The Webb.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on March 27, 2016, 10:45:35 PM
Battenburg do you always let your EPs dip so low?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on March 28, 2016, 01:56:34 AM
Battenburg do you always let your EPs dip so low?
Yes. They haven't affected me so far.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on March 29, 2016, 11:12:13 AM
For years after this election, both major candidates would be labeled at fault for their choice of running mates, with comically bad ideas to "balance the ticket." Sanity won through, and a non Democrat or Republican became president for the first time since the early-mid 19th century.

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Mr. Ross Perot/Adm. James Stockdale - 285 EV, 37%
Sen. Bob Dole/Mr. David Duke - 140 EV, 32%
Sen. Al Gore/Sen. Eugene McCarthy - 113 EV, 30%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PaperKooper on March 31, 2016, 08:46:45 PM
Computer-only election.  Extremely weird. 

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Businessman Donald Trump/Former Governor George Pataki - 255 EVs, 35.7%
Former Secretary Hillary Clinton/Mayor Rahm Emanuel - 168, 31.5%
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg/Governor Bill Walker - 87, 15.7%
Former Governor Rick Perry/Senator Ben Sasse - 16, 11.4%
Former Governor Gary Johnston/Businessman John McAfee - 12, 3.7%
Doctor Jill Stein/Activist Cheri Honkala - 0, 2.0%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on April 06, 2016, 08:43:13 AM
I wish there was a feature that allowed you to drop out of the primaries and run as an independent.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on April 06, 2016, 01:13:07 PM
Battenburg do you always let your EPs dip so low?
Yes. They haven't affected me so far.
How do you win as Webb? I couldn't get more than a few states...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on April 06, 2016, 01:49:25 PM
Battenburg do you always let your EPs dip so low?
Yes. They haven't affected me so far.
How do you win as Webb? I couldn't get more than a few states...

I was a wee bit cheeky and turned off Hillary and turned on Warner, Warren and a few others. I mainly built up infrastructure in the south and rural states. Despite winning none of the early states, I was able to sweep Super Tuesday, and from there on, it became incredibly easy to dispatch my opponents.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Attorney General, LGC Speaker & Former PPT Dwarven Dragon on April 07, 2016, 02:59:14 PM
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1912 Deadlock (Congress chooses Taft)

Clark (D) - 263 (43.7%)
Taft (R) - 152 (24.7%)
Roosevelt - 116 (25.6%)
Debs - 0 (6%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: VPH on April 09, 2016, 11:08:49 PM
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Dean/Chafee-357-62.5%
Bush/Cheney-181-37.5%

Washington, Nevada, and Texas were within 5.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on April 10, 2016, 07:41:23 AM
Anyone tried 1980 yet? New Scenario released


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SteveRogers on April 15, 2016, 08:24:11 PM
Is everybody else playing the 2016 primaries finding Martin O'Malley inexplicably nigh unbeatable in the early states?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on April 15, 2016, 08:44:05 PM
Is everybody else playing the 2016 primaries finding Martin O'Malley inexplicably nigh unbeatable in the early states?

I turn him and Webb off- the democrat field is broken. O'Malley always wins Iowa, NH, Nevada and then flames out


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 15 Down, 35 To Go on May 05, 2016, 12:11:06 PM
On American History for Clinton vs. Trump (playing as Trump)

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It all came down to Pennsylvania, which wasn't called until the next morning.  Clinton won the popular vote 50.0%-47.2%, but Trump almost won Pennsylvania, which would have swung the election.

Closest States (within 5%):

Pennsylvania: Clinton +0.14
New Hampshire: Clinton +0.21
Wisconsin: Clinton +0.64
Florida: Trump +0.88
Iowa: Clinton +0.88
Virginia: Clinton +1.86
Michigan: Clinton +2.42
Ohio: Trump +4.20
Utah: Trump +4.32 (with 16.3% for Gary Johnson)

I tried once more, and it was a bit more Trumpy (but still with a very close PV):

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Trump wins 322-216 despite only winning the popular vote by 0.6% (48.7-48.1).  The election is called for Trump when Pennsylvania is called before polls even closed on the West Coast.

Closest states:
Michigan: Trump +0.22
Virginia: Trump +1.02
Wisconsin: Trump +1.74
Pennsylvania: Trump +2.10
Colorado: Clinton +2.14
New Hampshire: Trump +2.41
Florida: Trump +3.23
Iowa: Trump +4.03
Minnesota: Clinton +4.31
Utah: Trump +6.04 (19.3% for Gary Johnson)
Nevada: Clinton +6.21
Ohio: Trump +6.32
Maine: Clinton +6.73 (a weakness of the game is it doesn't do ME-02)
Oregon: Clinton +8.99
Montana: Trump +9.17
Illinois: Clinton +9.36
North Carolina: Trump +9.69
Delaware: Clinton +9.82


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: 15 Down, 35 To Go on May 05, 2016, 01:28:32 PM
And, then, I played as Clinton on the hardest difficulty level and tried to sabotoge her along the way (by the end, she was arguing for building a wall and making Mexico pay for it) just to see how crazy it could get (spoiler alert: Florida came within 0.02 of being >60):

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Overall Popular Vote:
Trump 56.6%
Clinton 38.7%

Closest States:
Rhode Island: Trump +0.22
New York: Clinton +1.98
New Mexico: Clinton +2.04 (a double digit Johnson vote saves her here)
Maryland: Clinton +2.36
Massachusetts: Trump +2.41
California: Clinton +2.50
Washington: Trump +3.47
Vermont: Clinton +4.33 (she disavowed Bernie during the campaign)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mike Thick on May 08, 2016, 12:06:54 PM
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton/Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren: 50% PV, 297 EVs
Former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin/Dr. Ben Carson: 49.7% PV, 241 EVs

Maine was the closest state, being decided by about 4,000 votes. Indiana was a surprise, as polls showed Palin leading there up until election day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on May 10, 2016, 12:15:12 PM
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Mr. Donald J. Trump/Dr. Ben Carson (Republican) - 180 EV, 19546946 PV, 20.9%
Sen. Rand Paul/Sen. Ted Cruz (Freedom) - 58 EV, 17167404 PV, 18.4%
Conservative Alliance - 238 EV, 36714350 PV, 39.3%
Sen. Bernard Sanders/Gov. Jesse Ventura (Progressive) - 136 EV, 18852740 PV, 20.2%
Sec. Hillary Clinton/Gov. Brian Schweitzer (Democratic) - 60 EV, 19627984 PV, 21%
Liberal Alliance - 196 EV, 3840724 PV, 41.2%
Sen. Mark Warner/Sen. Rob Portman (People's) - 104 EV, 18241592 PV, 19.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on May 21, 2016, 05:20:31 AM
Battle of the Extremes

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Bernie Sanders (D-VT)/Alan Grayson (D-FL) - 47.6%, 275 EVs
Ted Cruz (R-TX)/Michele Bachmann (R-MN) - 50.4%, 263 EVs
Darryl W. Perry (L-NH)/Will Coley (L-???) - 1.0%
Jill Stein (G-MA)/Cheri Honkala (G-PA) - 0.7%
Darrell Castle (C-TN)/Scott Bradley (C-UT) - 0.3%

Close states:

Iowa - 0.4%
New Mexico - 1.0%
Minnesota - 1.6%
Colorado - 2.0%
Oregon - 2.2%
Michigan - 2.6%
New Hampshire - 2.9%
Wisconsin - 3.5%
Washington - 4.8%

New Jersey - 5.5%
Pennsylvania - 6.4%
Ohio - 7.3%
Nevada - 7.4%
Maine - 7.9%
California - 8.0%
Missouri - 8.6%
Florida - 8.9%
Virginia - 9.2%
North Carolina - 9.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Mike Thick on May 21, 2016, 02:42:36 PM
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Ted Cruz/Tim Scott: 69.9% PV, 195 EVs
Joe Biden/Hillary Clinton: 25.2% PV, 30 EVs
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura: 4.9% PV, 13 EVs

Observed as Johnson.

Cruz beat Romney, Pence, Carson, and Haley in the primaries comfortably. Biden beat O'Malley by a similar margin. Cruz picked Tim Scott as his VP, while Biden picked... Hillary Clinton.

Cruz started with a 538-0 lead and never totally relinquished it: going in, I expected him to carry every state and D.C. In the end, though, Biden surged, and managed to snag a whole quarter of the PV. Despite not campaigning at all, I managed to narrowly win Virginia (with 38%) and come within striking distance of Cruz in Oregon, even though I failed to hit 5% in the PV.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on May 22, 2016, 06:41:52 AM
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Donald Trump (R-NY)/Joni Ernst (R-IA) - 305 EVs, 42%
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 227 EVs, 40.4%
Tom Coburn (Renegade-OK)/Ben Sasse (Renegade-NE) - 6 EVs, 12.9%
Gary Johnson (L-NM)/William Weld (L-MA) - 3.3%
Other - 1.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on May 29, 2016, 10:54:19 AM
I ran a campaign as myself and barely beat Warren (and lost to Hillary in a different round).

The most bizarre result:

Washington State:
SunriseAroundTheWorld-Marco Rubio: 44.9% (1.45 Million votes)
Liz Warren-Cory Booker: 44.4% (1.43 Million votes)
Jill Stein-Cheryl Honkala: 8.8% (284K)
Gary Johnson-Jim Gray: 2.0% (64K)

What made this weirder was that I lost: MT, NV, CO, AZ while Winning: NH, WI, IA by small margins and OH, NC, VA, FL by 10%+ pts. (VA was a 21% shocker...was only up 4% on election day)


WV, TN, and KY were all semi-competitive as well, weirdly enough. (I won +7% in WV, +8% in TN and +14% in KY).


EDIT: Just realized I almost lost oklahoma...lololol 52-48


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on May 29, 2016, 12:14:40 PM
Edited the 1980 scenario by adding another third party.

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Former President Gerald Ford/ Senator Howard Baker (Republican): 385 EV; 46.4%, 44,013,272
President Jimmy Carter/ Vice President Walter Mondale (Democrat): 106 EV; 40.5%, 38,379,229
Senator Jesse Helms/ Representative Bob Dornan (American Independent): 47 EV; 13.1%; 12,393,783


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 04, 2016, 09:57:41 PM
1980: 1976, Round Two
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Former President Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Senator Bob Dole (R-KS) - 422/50.1%
President Jimmy Carter (D-GA) / Vice President Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 116/43.6%
SC voted for Carter by 1,241 votes. Closest state of the cycle.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 04, 2016, 10:14:23 PM
2008: First-name First Job
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) - 346/53.1%
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) / Secretary of State Condi Rice (R-AL) - 192/45.1%
Spectated as Nader. NV went to Giuliani with 125 votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 04, 2016, 10:54:47 PM
1912: Roosevelt v. Roosevelt v. Marshall
Each vote individually:
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Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN) / Governor John Burke (D-ND) - 266/40.6%
Former President Theodore Roosevelt (R/P-NY) - 265/54.8%
           Governor Hiram Johnson (P-CA) - 199/30.3%
           Vice President James Sherman (R-NY) - 66/24.5%
P&R combined:
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Roosevelt/Johnson/Sherman (P/R) - 426/54.8%
Marshall/Burke (D) - 105/40.6%
Idled as Debs. 2nd map is just each Progressive vote melded into each Republican vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 05, 2016, 10:33:25 AM
2016: But Muh...
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 271/50.4%
Donald Trump (R-NY) / Former Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) - 267/49.2%
Idled as Stein. 11,225 votes in NH would swing the election to Trump.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 05, 2016, 07:14:15 PM
2020: The Era of the Outsider
A runthrough through this (http://campaigns.270soft.com/2016/05/25/2020-the-era-of-the-outsider/) scenario.
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Mr. Kanye West (D-CA) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 329/32.7%
Former Governor Jeb! Bush (R-FL) / Former Governor Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 305/34.7%
President Donald Trump (OF-NY) / Grand Wizard (OF-??) - 79/31.9%
Idled as Gary Johnson. OF is Old Fashioned party. Think the Populist Party (1980s, not 1890s), but run by President Trump. 2nd, 3rd, and 4th boxes are Guam, American Samoa, and US Virgin Islands, respectively.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on June 05, 2016, 08:26:26 PM
Here's my Democratic primary map.

Candidates: Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Hillary Clinton, Jim Webb, Joe Biden, Martin O'Malley

Only candidate who dropped out the entire campaign was Biden, he also endorsed Clinton and gave her all of his delegates

It will be heading to the convention, Mississippi is white because there was less than a 1% margin of victory, Sanders won it with 21.5% and O'Malley got 20.8% to Warren's 19.8% and the delegates were split 14-14-13

Biggest Margin of Victory was Tennessee where Clinton won 87% of the vote to Sanders' 11%

Final Delegate total:

Sanders 2,278
Clinton 1,212
O'Malley 555
Warren 468
Webb 184

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 08, 2016, 05:30:38 PM
Daschle technically wins
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on June 08, 2016, 06:22:44 PM
how do you get state scenarios


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 08, 2016, 07:01:37 PM
IDK where to get all state scenarios, but I got SD Senate '04 here (http://campaigns.270soft.com/2016/02/06/south-dakota-2004-senate/).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: This account no longer in use. on June 08, 2016, 08:04:28 PM
Might try making some MA and NH statewides.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on June 09, 2016, 04:12:57 PM
IDK where to get all state scenarios, but I got SD Senate '04 here (http://campaigns.270soft.com/2016/02/06/south-dakota-2004-senate/).

gracias.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on June 09, 2016, 04:31:27 PM
There's a Nevada 2016 senate one!

http://campaigns.270soft.com/2016/02/08/nevada-senate-2016-beta/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 09, 2016, 04:33:53 PM
1992: From a Grand Old Party to a Klan Kookout
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Former President Jimmy Carter / Senator Paul Tsongas - 391/46.4%
David Duke / Pat Buchanan - 143/38.3%
Ross Perot / James Stockdale - 4/13.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on June 12, 2016, 10:43:23 PM
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Sec. Hillary Clinton/ Sen. Al Franken 372 EV; 77,116,723; 52.7%
Gov. Paul LePage/ Sen. Shelley Moore Capito 166 EV; 67,088,510; 45.9%
Gov. Gary Johnson/ Gov. Bill Weld 0 EV; 1,516,029; 1%
Dr. Jill Stein/ Mrs. Cheri Honkala 0 EV;  546,915; 0.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 13, 2016, 10:54:15 AM
2016: Freiwal Strikes Back
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Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) / Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) - 272/48.3%
Former Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) / Donald Trump (R-NY) - 266/51.3%
Idled as Stein. 2,953 Biden votes switched to Palin switch outcome completely.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 13, 2016, 11:08:48 AM
2012: It's Happening
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Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 323/51.9
Representative Ron Paul (R-TX) / Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 215/46.3
Idled as Johnson. I'm convinced you-know-who made this scenario for 270soft.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 13, 2016, 10:42:01 PM
1992: Trial of the Second Bananas
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Vice President Dan Quayle (R-IN) / Secretary Jack Kemp (R-NY) - 274/44.4%
Senator Al Gore (D-TN) / Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 264/44.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 14, 2016, 12:46:06 PM
2000: Can't Stone the 'Stone
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Senator Paul Wellstone (D-MN) / Former Senator Bill Bradley (D-NJ) - 277/51.4%
Governor George W. Bush (R-TX) / Former Secretary Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 261/46.9%
Spectated as Trump.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 15, 2016, 07:49:43 PM
1972: This Is It, The Apocalypse
Alternative title: Something Something Racist Hicks
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President Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Vice President Spiro Agnew (R-MD) - 532/71%
Governor George Wallace (D-AL) / Senator Henry Jackson (D-WA) - 6/29%
Sat back and watched the world burn as a self-added spectator party.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on June 16, 2016, 12:31:35 PM
1972: This Is It, The Apocalypse
Alternative title: Something Something Racist Hicks
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President Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Vice President Spiro Agnew (R-MD) - 532/71%
Governor George Wallace (D-AL) / Senator Henry Jackson (D-WA) - 6/29%
Sat back and watched the world burn as a self-added spectator party.

#IceSpearWasRight #Illuminati


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 16, 2016, 12:45:13 PM
1992: I Broke America
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Former Senator George McGovern / Former Senator Eugene McCarthy (D-MN) - 405/46.1%
David Duke (R-LA) / Pat Buchanan (R-VA) - 120/36%
Ross Perot (I-TX) / James Stockdale (I-NY) - 13/17.2%
Basically wtf @ HI, MA, AR, IN


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on June 17, 2016, 12:27:26 AM
Just went digging through my old emails from when I worked on the campaign in 2012, and found NVGonzalez's email with his scenario attached! I lost that over a year ago, so I'm glad to have it again.

I played Ron Paul in the general with Paul Ryan as a running-mate, and ended up losing narrowly to Obama despite winning the popular vote. I should've posted the map, but I was too tired to do so at the time. My biggest mistake was blowing my ninety million quickly. I was three weeks out of the election and only had three million left. I was able to bring the numbers up just enough to run some ads in the swing states, but I usually like to end the final week of a campaign with a nationwide ad campaign to jack up my momentum.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 17, 2016, 11:04:52 AM
1992: Baby's first time getting Perot to get more than 1 state
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Former President Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Senator Lamar Alexander (R-TN) - 307/44.2%
Governor Douglas Wilder (D-VA) / Former Senator Paul Tsongas (D-MA) - 184/37.4%
Ross Perot (I-TX) / James Stockdale (I-NY) - 47/17.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: PaperKooper on June 17, 2016, 07:16:53 PM
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Governor Scott Walker/Former Speaker Newt Gingrich - 53.8% - 292
Former Secretary Hillary Clinton/Senator Cory Booker - 46.2% - 246

I played as Walker from the July 1st, 2015 start date.  Bush and Rubio put up a bit of a fight in the primaries, but I was still able to reach a majority.  Clinton won her primaries handily.  The general election map stayed pretty static throughout the campaign. 

States within 10%:
Arizona 54.6%
New Hampshire 54.5%
Missouri 53.5%
Colorado 53.3%
Ohio 53.2%
Pennsylvania 52.4%
Virginia 51.5%
North Carolina 50.6%
Florida 49.3%
Michigan 49.3%
New Mexico 49.2%
Vermont 48.4%
Maine 47.7%
Minnesota 47.3%
New York 47.1%
Massachusetts 46.5%
California 46.4%
New Jersey 46.2%
Washington 46.2%
Maryland 45.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on June 18, 2016, 08:03:54 PM
I goofed around a bit with the game editor and made a Trump third party option

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Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/ Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 417EV/43.5%
Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/ Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 17EV/ 27.1%
Mr. Donald Trump (I-NY)/ Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) - 104EV/ 28.4%
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) - 0EV/0.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: / on June 18, 2016, 10:45:51 PM
I goofed around a bit with the game editor and made a Trump third party option

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Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/ Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 417EV/43.5%
Gov. John Kasich (R-OH)/ Gov. Brian Sandoval (R-NV) - 17EV/ 27.1%
Mr. Donald Trump (I-NY)/ Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) - 104EV/ 28.4%
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) - 0EV/0.9%

This map actually isn't too unbelievable.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 18, 2016, 11:27:04 PM
2016: The Plight of the Sandernista (or, The Dream of the Trumpet)
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Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 260/33.5%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) / Jfern (I-CA) - 148/33.2%
Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 130/33.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on June 18, 2016, 11:51:10 PM
2016: The Plight of the Sandernista (or, The Dream of the Trumpet)
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Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 260/33.5%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) / Jfern (I-CA) - 148/33.2%
Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 130/33.3%

So pretty much the reverse of the map I posted earlier. (I.E. The democrats losing due to a third party challenger, instead of the republicans) ;)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 18, 2016, 11:52:58 PM
2016: The Plight of the Sandernista (or, The Dream of the Trumpet)
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Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Chris Christie (R-NJ) - 260/33.5%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) / Jfern (I-CA) - 148/33.2%
Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 130/33.3%

So pretty much the reverse of the map I posted earlier. (I.E. The democrats losing due to a third party challenger, instead of the republicans) ;)
Pretty much.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on June 19, 2016, 12:08:52 PM
2016

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Secretary Hillary R. Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 359 EV, 47.4% PV
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Governor Rick Perry (R-TX) - 179 EV, 44% PV
Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY) / Secretary Chuck Hagel (R-NE) 0 EV, 6.1% PV
Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Governor Bill Weld (L-NM) - 0 EV, 1.4% PV
Activist Jill Stein (G-MA) / Cheri Honkala (G-Whatever)  - 0 EV, 1.2% PV

I played as HRC on hard. Swept the primaries besides Arkansas, Vermont and some other random state.

Best Bloomberg States (10% & Above):
NJ - 24.1
AL- 17
WV - 11.2
NC - 11
CA - 10.4
NY - 10

Best Johnson States  (10% & Above):

AL - 13

Best Stein States  (8% & Above):

NM - 8.9
NC - 8.4

Closest States (b/w Clinton and Cruz under 5%)

Indiana - 0.89
Florida - 1.1
Georgia 1.2
Montana - 1.7
Wisconsin - 2.1
Iowa - 2.1
Virginia - 3.4
North Carolina - 4
Minnesota - 4.6
Arizona - 4.9

Blowouts for Cruz (20+ Points)
Utah
Wyoming
Idaho
Oklahoma
Texas
Kentucky
South Carolina
Alabama
North Dakota
Kansas
Nebraska

Blowouts for Clinton (20+ Points)

Rhode Island
Hawaii
Connecticut
Delaware
Vermont
Massachusetts
Washington, D.C.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 20, 2016, 03:46:17 PM
2016: Worst Case Scenario
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Donald Trump (R-NY) / Ben Carson (R-MD) - 289/29.5%
Former Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 162/27.6%
Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT) / Jfern (I-CA) - 87/26.9%
Former Vice President Dick Cheney (F-WY) / Senator Ben Sasse (F-NE) - 8.2%
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY) / Secretary Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - 5.9%
Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Governor Jesse Ventura (L-MN) - 1%
Jill Stein (G-MA) / Cheri Honkala (G-PA) - 0.6%
Darrell Castle (C-TN) / Scott Bradley (C-UT) - 0.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on June 20, 2016, 05:49:10 PM
Clinton won the electoral college vote even though TRUMP beat her by 4.8 million popular votes.

Closest States:

Ohio: Clinton 48.2% Trump 47.2% Johnson 2.9% Stein 1.7%
Oregon: Trump 46.7% Clinton 42.1% Stein 7.3% Johnson 3.9%
Maine: Clinton 47.4% Trump 43.5% Stein 4.8% Johnson 4.3%
Nevada: Clinton 48.2% Trump 47% Johnson 3.5% Stein 1.4%
New Mexico: Clinton 46.6% Trump 39.7% Johnson 12.1% Stein 1.6%
Vermont: Clinton 43.6% Stein 32.3% Trump 19% Johnson 5.2%

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on June 21, 2016, 05:12:32 PM

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Senator Joe Biden (D-DE)/Senator Evan Bayh (D-IN) - 465 EV (55.3%) ✓
Former Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/Former Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR) - 73 EV (43.1%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on June 21, 2016, 11:40:45 PM
I made Joe Lieberman into a Republican. Maybe the POD is that he decides to switch parties after running as an independent in the 2006 Senate Race. I played hands-off as the libertarians, and I ended up with a pretty close election.

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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL)/ Senator Joe Biden (D-DE) - 270 EV (50.7%)
Senator Joe Lieberman (R-CT)/ Governor Charlie Crist (R-FL) - 268 EV (48.5%)
Rep. Bob Barr (L-GA)/ Mr. Wayne Allyn Root (L-NV) - 0 EV (0.8%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 22, 2016, 06:45:40 PM
2004: Aftermath of the Pretzel
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President Dick Cheney (R-WY) / VP John McCain (R-AZ) - 282/48.5%
Senator Tom Daschle (D-SD) / Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 256/49.7%
Edited Cheney into the 2004 scenario and spectated as Nader. Got 12.8% in Indiana for some reason. I'm also wondering why Happy South Dakota Farmers didn't turn out in droves for Hillary Clinton AND their favorite son on the same ticket.
Anyway, a margin of 306,855 votes in Michigan would have flipped the election to Daschle.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on June 22, 2016, 06:56:23 PM
I have a question, for anyone with President Infinity, have you ever had almost all of your candidates remain in the race until the convention? I don't have them set to stay in until the convention, but most of the time they do.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 22, 2016, 07:04:06 PM
I have a question, for anyone with President Infinity, have you ever had almost all of your candidates remain in the race until the convention? I don't have them set to stay in until the convention, but most of the time they do.
I've only ran one race in the primaries (Atlas 2016), and nobody dropped out until Iowa. By the time NeverAgain became the presumptive nominee, only evergreen went into the convention.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on July 06, 2016, 10:53:28 PM
This just happened.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 09, 2016, 03:42:43 PM
Cain Train Roll On, On Down the Line

Herman Cain enters the 2012 Republican primary as an underdog, with early polls showing Romney and Gingrich as the favorites.  Gingrich is able to weather a myriad of scandals and keep the map in his favor with strong debate performances, but Cain's strengths begin to show with each debate.  By November, Cain has amassed high-profile endorsements from the Bush family, Sarah Palin, and the Koch brothers, enabling him to build a lead in a handful of states.  Unfortunately for Cain, most of the states he leads in vote later, and he continues to fall in all the early states except for South Carolina (which eventually becomes out of reach, too).  By the Iowa caucuses, Romney and Gingrich remain the heavy favorites, but Cain still sees a path.  Romney pulls off a narrow win in Iowa, followed by surprise wins for Bachmann in New Hampshire and South Carolina.  Romney takes Florida and Nevada.

Shortly afterwards, Cain gets his first victories in Colorado and Minnesota.  Gingrich gets just under 50% in Maine.  After a resounding debate win, Cain pulls out a win in Arizona while Romney gets a comfortable win in his birth state, Michigan.  Texas Governor Rick Perry wins one contest: the Missouri caucuses.  On Super Tuesday, Cain and Gingrich dominate with Romney only winning the state of his political tenure, Massachusetts.  A brokered convention becomes increasingly likely with no candidates dropping out.  For Cain and Gingrich, Romney could be the kingmaker.

Eager for a Romney endorsement, Cain ceases all negative campaign activity against Romney, directing those resources to stopping Gingrich, who leads in the delegate count by 100 delegates.  Cain pulls out crucial last-minute victories in Illinois, Maryland, DC, and Wisconsin - all states that he had been behind either Gingrich or Romney up until election day.  Cain sweeps the Northeastern primary states and shocks the GOP by winning Indiana and North Carolina, where Gingrich had seemingly insurmountable leads through the campaign season.  (Indiana was the closest contest, with Cain just barely overtaking Gingrich in a clear 42-42 tie.  He won all the state's delegates.)

Romney finally drops out, having ignored Cain's (and presumably, Gingrich's) weekly appeals for his endorsement.  Bachmann and Santorum endorse Gingrich.  Nobody cares about Huntsman.

Cain continues to win the smaller states (minus Arkansas) leading up to Texas, which he wins handily.  After a stunning upset in California and New Jersey, Cain earns enough delegates to become the nominee.  Gingrich only wins one other contest: Utah.

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The convention vote goes as follows:
Businessman Herman Cain of Georgia - 1256 delegates
Fmr. Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia - 891 delegates
Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts (dropped out) - 139 delegates
Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota - 0 delegates
Governor Rick Perry of Texas - 0 delegates
Congressman Ron Paul of Texas - 0 delegates
Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania - 0 delegates
Fmr. Ambassador Jon Huntsman of Utah - 0 delegates

*Most states shaded >30% were actually in the high 20s.  There's little wonder that most of the candidates opted to stay in until the final weeks.

Citing his need for a running mate with Washington experience (as well as superior debate skills to counter Biden), Cain selects Gingrich to be his running mate.

(Cain makes the controversial decision to change his state of residence to Nebraska, to avoid constitutional challenges to the ticket.)

This is where I reset the game, because for some reason I always start off with an impossible map in the general for 2012.  Cheating?  Maybe a little.


In the general election, Cain forfeits a federal block grant.  Obama begins with a modest lead in the polls.  The campaign is close until the end.  Cain narrowly wins two of three debates, and Gingrich smashes Biden in the VP debate.

This is the map on election night:

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Businessman Herman Cain of Nebraska and former Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia - 288 EVs, 52.6%
President Barack Obama of Illinois and Vice President Joe Biden of Delaware - 247 EVs, 47.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on July 09, 2016, 05:55:54 PM
For the record 2012 is virtually impossible to win because Gingrich has such a big polling lead


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on July 09, 2016, 07:01:54 PM
For the record 2012 is virtually impossible to win because Gingrich has such a big polling lead

I hope they fix it. I have tried like 10 Santorum '12 games with only 1 success (after I picked Gingrich as my Veep). I did crush Obama by like 6 or 7 points for which I got on my leaderboards. Primaries are really a bear though.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 13, 2016, 12:45:48 AM
2008: Bayh's Turn

The 2008 Democratic Primary was always going to be an uphill battle for little-known maverick Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana.  Even after getting his first major campaign endorsement from Illinois Senator Barack Obama, who was widely expected to enter the race before opting to remain in the Senate, Bayh's campaign would see little traction before the first several debates.  His main rival?  Hillary Clinton, who was determined to stay in to the end.

But despite early states' polls going in other candidates' favor, Bayh defied all expectations with his monumental win in the Iowa caucuses, followed by a close second showing in New Hampshire, where just two points sat between him and John Edwards, the charismatic former North Carolina senator and 2004 Vice Presidential candidate.  Bayh scored a second narrow victory in Nevada, where Clinton had led by as much as fifty points weeks before, only to come under a deluge of scandals in the final days.

Still, Clinton was victorious on Super Tuesday, although Bayh again defied expectations with narrow victories in several key Midwestern states.  Edwards was not far behind.  After losing several states, Bayh's path to the nomination started to look bleak, just before making a heavy comeback in winning Ohio, Texas, and Rhode Island.  Eventually, most other candidates would drop out and endorse Clinton.

A brokered convention appeared almost certain.  At this point, Edwards had no real path to the nomination on his own, even as polls had him well ahead in several upcoming contests, especially his home state.  But, shortly after Bayh claimed a narrow win in the hotly contested Pennsylvania primary, Edwards dropped out and endorsed him, effectively guaranteeing him the nomination.  The following Tuesday, Bayh swept through Indiana and pulled out a narrow victory in North Carolina.

By now, the Democratic nomination was all locked up, with Republicans John McCain, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee all still in a very tough race for their party's nomination.  Still, Clinton was able to pick off big wins in Nebraska and West Virginia, prompting Bayh to select her as his running mate in effort to unify a deeply divided party.  After the last contest, Bayh finished in the popular vote with just a 32% plurality, followed by Clinton with 30%.

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Convention vote:
Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana - all delegates
Senator Hillary Clinton of New York - 0 delegates
Former Senator John Edwards of North Carolina - 0 delegates
Senator Joe Biden of Delaware - 0 delegates [only carried his home state in primaries]
Governor Bill Richardson of New Mexico - 0 delegates




The Republicans consolidated around John McCain, who picked former Tennessee senator Fred Thompson as his running mate.  The stock market crash, in conjunction with superior debating performances and bipartisan endorsements, kept Bayh well ahead throughout the campaign.  He goes on to win the general election in a landslide.

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Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana and Senator Hillary Clinton of New York - 417 EVs, 57.8%
Senator John McCain of Arizona and former Senator Fred Thompson of Tennessee - 121 EVs, 39.7%
Former Congressman Bob Barr of Georgia and Mr. Wayne Root of Nevada - 0 EVs, .9%
Mr. Ralph Nader of Connecticut and Mr. Matt Gonzalez of Texas - 1.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on July 17, 2016, 07:08:17 PM
2016 scenario

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Virginia Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) 45.7% and 298 electoral votes
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) 42.5% and 240 electoral votes
Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Governor William Weld (L-MA) 7.2% and 0 electoral votes
Doctor Jill Stein (G-MA)/Bill Kreml (G-SC) 3.9% and 0 electoral votes

Third party best performances:
Vermont: TRUMP 36.5% STEIN 28.7% CLINTON 28.4% JOHNSON 6.4%
Maine: TRUMP 39.9% CLINTON 37.3% JOHNSON 15.7% STEIN 7.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: LLR on July 17, 2016, 07:32:33 PM
2016 scenario

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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Virginia Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) 45.7% and 298 electoral votes
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) 42.5% and 240 electoral votes
Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Governor William Weld (L-MA) 7.2% and 0 electoral votes
Doctor Jill Stein (G-MA)/Bill Kreml (G-SC) 3.9% and 0 electoral votes

Third party best performances:
Vermont: TRUMP 36.5% STEIN 28.7% CLINTON 28.4% JOHNSON 6.4%
Maine: TRUMP 39.9% CLINTON 37.3% JOHNSON 15.7% STEIN 7.1%

Seems completely accurate.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Former Senator Haslam2020 on July 18, 2016, 04:47:43 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 21, 2016, 12:49:48 AM
2008: Old Rivals

Vice President Dick Cheney had everything against him when he entered the presidential race.  His announcement came as a surprise to many, with the lagging economy and Cheney's health cited as reasons he would not enter the race, or trivialize Republican chances of holding onto the White House if he did.  Despite these concerns, Cheney quickly rose to frontrunner status in the primary.  Though he pulled off a much closer-than-expected win in his home state Wyoming caucuses, his subsequent victories in Nevada, South Carolina, and Florida kept the map in his favor.  By the end of the Texas/Ohio/Vermont/Rhode Island primaries, Cheney was the presumptive nominee.  His opponents dropped out shortly after.

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Vice President Dick Cheney of Wyoming (winner)
Former Governor Mitt Romney of Massachusetts
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani of New York
Former Governor Mike Huckabee of Arkansas



With an uphill battle for the general ahead, Cheney, desperate for centrist voters, picked independent senator, and former rival, Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, for his running mate in what many saw as a potential game-changer.  Delaware Senator Joe Biden just barely edged out Illinois Senator Barack Obama, and chose Virginia Governor Tim Kaine as his running mate.

Cheney spent much of the general election attacking Biden for his integrity, as he was previously forced to suspend an earlier presidential campaign after he was caught plagiarizing a speech.  But, with the stock market crash, Biden led through most of the campaign.

Cheney's saving grace this election would be an unexpected scandal involving Biden and a live boy.  Cheney pulled out a victory with the most illogical of results:

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Vice President Dick Cheney of Wyoming and Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut (Republican) - 293 EVs, 51.1%
Senator Joe Biden of Delaware and Governor Tim Kaine of Virginia (Democratic) - 245 EVs, 46.2%
Former Congressman Bob Barr of Georgia and Mr. Wayne Root of Nevada (Libertarian) - 0 EVs, .8%
Mr. Ralph Nader of Connecticut and Mr. Matt Gonzalez of Texas - 0 EVs, 1.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on July 21, 2016, 09:08:06 AM
2008: Old Rivals

Cheney spent much of the general election attacking Biden for his integrity, as he was previously forced to suspend an earlier presidential campaign after he was caught plagiarizing a speech.  But, with the stock market crash, Biden led through most of the campaign.

Cheney's saving grace this election would be an unexpected scandal involving Biden and a live boy.  Cheney pulled out a victory with the most illogical of results:


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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 21, 2016, 06:21:23 PM
Edwin Edwards joke.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on July 22, 2016, 09:50:10 AM
Dem Primaries
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Former Governor Martin O'Malley (MD)
Senator Bernie Sanders (VT)
Vice President Joe Biden (DE)
Rep Primaries
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Senator Marco Rubio (FL)
Governor John Kasich (OH)
Ben Carson (MD)
Former Governor Jeb Bush (FL)
Senator Ted Cruz (TX)
Former Governor Mike Huckabee (AR)
GE (reset)
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Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Senator Bob Corker (R-TN) - 338/53%
Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Secretary of State John Kerry (D-MA) - 200/46.7%
GE (no reset, for the lulz)
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Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Senator Bob Corker (R-TN) - 471/59.7%
Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Secretary of State John Kerry (D-MA) - 67/40%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on July 22, 2016, 07:30:57 PM
Dem Primaries

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Vice President Joe Biden - 3,692 Delegates, 68.3%
Senator Elizabeth Warren - 533 Delegates, 11.9%
Senator Cory Booker - 182 Delegates, 6%
Former Senator Jim Webb - 180 Delegates, 6.2%
Senator Tim Kaine - 129 Delegates, 2.6%
Governor Andrew Cuomo - 41 Delegates, 3.4%
Former Governor Martin O'Malley - 8 Delegates, 1.5%

GOP Primaries

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Senator Marco Rubio - 1,039 Delagtes, 28.1%
Senator Ted Cruz - 666 Delegates, 24.3%
Former Governor Bobby Jindal - 162 Delegates, 7.3%
Mrs. Carly Fiorina - 147 Delegates, 10.5%
Governor John Kasich - 111 Delegates, 3.8%
Former Senator Rick Santorum - 97 Delegates, 4.7%
Former Governor Jeb! Bush - 88 Delegates, 4.7%
Governor Chris Christie - 71 Delegates, 6.1%
Former Governor Mike Huckabee - 46 Delegates, 3.4%
Senator Rand Paul - 25 Delegates, 3.4%
Senator Lindsey Graham - 20 Delegates, 4.2%

Reset General Election

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Senator Marco Rubio/Representative Peter King - 281 EV, 50.2%
Vice President Joe Biden/Senator Mark Warner - 257 EV, 48.3%

No Reset General Election

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Senator Marco Rubio/Representative Peter King - 304 EV, 51.7%
Vice President Joe Biden/Senator Mark Warner - 234 EV, 47.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: LLR on July 22, 2016, 07:38:35 PM

I see what you did there


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 23, 2016, 05:01:49 AM
Clinton's basically impossible to beat in the primary for 2016, isn't she?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on July 23, 2016, 06:08:25 PM
Clinton's basically impossible to beat in the primary for 2016, isn't she?

She is, but you have to sweep the Feb primary states and really focus on the ST states and build up momentum against her in later states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on July 26, 2016, 09:31:27 PM
So, I just got the new sneak peek version of PI where you actually fight a contested convention and can play as the winning candidate and got this:

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I played as CRUZ in the primaries and finished first in terms of pledged delegates while BUSH won the popular vote.

By the time of the convention, BUSH AND CRUZ were the final two candidates with TRUMP dropping out 2 days before the RNC.

None of the candidates released their delegates so the first ballot was:
CRUZ 799
BUSH 580
TRUMP 393
FIORINA 151
RUBIO 139
PATAKI 138
CARSON 82
HUCKABEE 56
SANTORUM 45
KASICH 41
GILMORE 27
PAUL 7
CHRISTIE 6
GRAHAM 5
JINDAL 2

Through several ballots, the final three candidates were:

FIORINA 1,028
CRUZ 846
BUSH 597

Bush was eliminated and all his delegates went to CARLY F'ING FIORINA

Final results:
☑FIORINA 1,625 (65.7%)
CRUZ 846 (34.3%)

And in the end, Fiorina didn't choose me as a unity candidate (FIORINA/CRUZ would have been hilarious)

SHE CHOSE JON HUNTSMAN LMAO

The Democratic convention results ended up being:
☑CLINTON 2,489
BIDEN 1,297
LESSIG!!! 444
SANDERS 331
CHAFEE 115
O'MALLEY 66
WEBB 0

The final tickets ended up being:

(R) Fiorina/Huntsman
(D) Clinton/Brown
(L) Johnson/McAfee
(G) Stein/Kreml

Republican and Democratic officials endorsed Clinton/Brown after the DNC commenced and polling after the DNC had

CLINTON 42%
FIORINA 40%
JOHNSON 7%
STEIN 4%
UNDECIDED 8%

The electoral map was:
CLINTON 278
FIORINA 223
UNDECIDED 37

Clinton refused to debate me during the first debate and thus the debate was cancelled.

After Clinton refused to participate in the first debate and a barrage of anti-Clinton integrity ads were released against her, polling shifted sharply in favor of Fiorina:

September 5th:
FIORINA 45% +5
CLINTON 40% -2%
JOHNSON 8% +1
STEIN 4% nc
UNDECIDED 3% -5%

Electoral college:
FIORINA 264
CLINTON 230
UNDECIDED 44

During the 2nd debate, Clinton utterly trounced Fiorina in the debate and with nationwide ads running touting her experience with foreign policy and families, Clinton achieved the big mo while Fiorina experienced negative momentum from the debate and polling reflected that:

October 10th:
CLINTON 44%
FIORINA 41%
JOHNSON 7%
STEIN 4%
UNDECIDED 5%

ELECTORAL COLLEGE:
CLINTON 273
FIORINA 223
UNDECIDED 42

On the final day of campaigning, Fiorina had the big mo with Clinton being deep in negative momentum territory in Pennsylvania

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Moral of the story, never let the candidate who only got 3% of the primary vote be your nominee.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on July 28, 2016, 04:16:23 PM
A mini-timeline I was expecting to be shorter, part 1:
1912:
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Governor Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) / Governor Thomas Marshall (D-IN) - 313/54.3%
Former President Theodore Roosevelt (R-NY) / VP James Sherman (R-NY) - 218/40.8%
1916:
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President Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) / VP Thomas Marshall (D-IN) - 304/55.7%
Governor Martin Brumbaugh (R-PA) / Senator Henry Cabot Lodge (R-MA) - 227/41.2%

1920:
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Senator Hiram Johnson (R-CA) / Senator Robert La Follette (R-WI) - 342/53.4%
Attorney Gereral A. Mitchell Palmer (D-PA) / Governor Edward Edwards (D-NJ) - 189/44.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on July 30, 2016, 10:24:40 PM
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Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) / Senator Sherrod Brown (D-OH) - 345/52.7%
Ben Carson (R-FL) / Carly Fiorina (R-VA) - 193/46.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on July 31, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
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Mr. Donald Trump/Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn (Republican) - 167 EV, 25.8%
Secretary Hillary Clinton/Senator Al Franken (Democratic) - 157 EV, 25.8%
Governor W. Mitt Romney/Governor John E. Bush (Independent Republican) - 110 EV, 16.4%
Senator Bernie Sanders/Dr. Jill Stein (Green) - 58 EV, 11.1%
Vice President Dick Cheney/Governor Rick Perry (Constitution) - 36 EV, 4.7%
Senator Rand Paul/Governor Jesse Ventura (Libertarian) - 10 EV, 10.5%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 31, 2016, 09:16:13 PM
I'm creating on a P4E 2016 scenario featuring only third-parties, which as of now includes the Libertarians, Greens, Constitutionists, and Socialists, but might include more.

Can't wait to finish it.  Gonna be YUGE.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on July 31, 2016, 11:12:58 PM
I'm creating on a P4E 2016 scenario featuring only third-parties, which as of now includes the Libertarians, Greens, Constitutionists, and Socialists, but might include more.

Can't wait to finish it.  Gonna be YUGE.
For the old or new version?

I'm actually editing a really old scenario for '16 for P4E2008. It had Linda Lingle and Sean Parnell as candidates :P. I'm adding the actual 2016 candidates. The scenario also has a Gary Johnson candidacy polling at 9%. I thought that was really lame in 2013 when I first downloaded the scenario. Now it maes sense.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on July 31, 2016, 11:50:28 PM
I'm creating on a P4E 2016 scenario featuring only third-parties, which as of now includes the Libertarians, Greens, Constitutionists, and Socialists, but might include more.

Can't wait to finish it.  Gonna be YUGE.
For the old or new version?

I'm actually editing a really old scenario for '16 for P4E2008. It had Linda Lingle and Sean Parnell as candidates :P. I'm adding the actual 2016 candidates. The scenario also has a Gary Johnson candidacy polling at 9%. I thought that was really lame in 2013 when I first downloaded the scenario. Now it maes sense.

New version.  I had to buy the new one after I got my new laptop.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on August 04, 2016, 08:17:53 PM
Played a scenario where Trump was defeated at the RNC and ran as a third party candidate, Cruz won the GOP nomination instead.

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CRUZ/FIORINA - 36.3% - 72,657,915 - 227 electoral votes
CLINTON/KAINE 29.8% - 59,615,415 - 235 electoral votes
TRUMP/GINGRICH 25.1% - 50,264,431 - 76 electoral votes
JOHNSON/WELD 5.8% - 11,643,412
STEIN/BARAKA - 3.0% - 6,039,519

Closest states:
WASHINGTON:
CRUZ 1,444,475 - 36.7%
CLINTON 1,430,900 - 36.4%
CRUZ + 13,575 - 0.3% OVER CLINTON

VIRGINIA:
CLINTON 1,869,890 - 37.5%
CRUZ 1,831,837 - 36.8%
CLINTON + 38,053 - 0.7% OVER CRUZ

KENTUCKY:
CRUZ 1,169,579 - 36.7%
TRUMP 1,091,635 - 34.3%
CRUZ + 77,944 - 2.4% OVER TRUMP

NEW MEXICO:
CLINTON 348,459 - 29.4%
JOHNSON 336,988 - 28.4%
CRUZ 330,610 - 27.9%
CLINTON + 11,471 - 1.0% OVER JOHNSON

GEORGIA:
TRUMP 2,165,951 - 31.3%
CLINTON 1,874,155 - 27.1%
CRUZ 1,775,512 - 25.6%
TRUMP + 291,796 - 4.2% OVER CLINTON  

CALIFORNIA:
CLINTON 7,264,270 - 33.5%
CRUZ 7,130,770 - 32.9%
CLINTON + 133,500 - 0.6% OVER CRUZ


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: White Trash on August 05, 2016, 01:07:45 PM
Playing as Webb against Warren and Cuomo. I win every debate, and usually take IA and SC and sometimes NV with decent margins, but I always get destroyed on Super Tuesday. Any help?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on August 05, 2016, 01:52:28 PM
Playing as Webb against Warren and Cuomo. I win every debate, and usually take IA and SC and sometimes NV with decent margins, but I always get destroyed on Super Tuesday. Any help?

Invest in 4-5 Super Tuesday states straight away, and make sure to do well in all states (the PR system for the Dem primaries means you can get destroyed; as Sanders did in RL in the South)

Basically from beginning you need to invest in the states


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: White Trash on August 05, 2016, 01:59:58 PM
Playing as Webb against Warren and Cuomo. I win every debate, and usually take IA and SC and sometimes NV with decent margins, but I always get destroyed on Super Tuesday. Any help?

Invest in 4-5 Super Tuesday states straight away, and make sure to do well in all states (the PR system for the Dem primaries means you can get destroyed; as Sanders did in RL in the South)

Basically from beginning you need to invest in the states

Invest in what sense?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on August 05, 2016, 02:18:07 PM
Playing as Webb against Warren and Cuomo. I win every debate, and usually take IA and SC and sometimes NV with decent margins, but I always get destroyed on Super Tuesday. Any help?

Invest in 4-5 Super Tuesday states straight away, and make sure to do well in all states (the PR system for the Dem primaries means you can get destroyed; as Sanders did in RL in the South)

Basically from beginning you need to invest in the states

Invest in what sense?

Build up Organization and Footsoldiers. A couple of well-timed newspaper ads wouldn't hurt. You'll also want to keep up your momentum with rallying and barnstorming in those states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: White Trash on August 05, 2016, 02:27:13 PM
Playing as Webb against Warren and Cuomo. I win every debate, and usually take IA and SC and sometimes NV with decent margins, but I always get destroyed on Super Tuesday. Any help?

Invest in 4-5 Super Tuesday states straight away, and make sure to do well in all states (the PR system for the Dem primaries means you can get destroyed; as Sanders did in RL in the South)

Basically from beginning you need to invest in the states

Invest in what sense?

Build up Organization and Footsoldiers. A couple of well-timed newspaper ads wouldn't hurt. You'll also want to keep up your momentum with rallying and barnstorming in those states.

I'm starting in July, how early should I start barnstorming and rallying?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: NeverAgain on August 05, 2016, 03:16:57 PM
Playing as Webb against Warren and Cuomo. I win every debate, and usually take IA and SC and sometimes NV with decent margins, but I always get destroyed on Super Tuesday. Any help?

Invest in 4-5 Super Tuesday states straight away, and make sure to do well in all states (the PR system for the Dem primaries means you can get destroyed; as Sanders did in RL in the South)

Basically from beginning you need to invest in the states

Invest in what sense?

Build up Organization and Footsoldiers. A couple of well-timed newspaper ads wouldn't hurt. You'll also want to keep up your momentum with rallying and barnstorming in those states.

I'm starting in July, how early should I start barnstorming and rallying?

Once you see that they are very high in power (above 5 IMO); that will allow you to gain even more momentum. I would say focus on the Main Early States when rallying and barnstorming, but then mix in some powerfilled stops in the ST states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: White Trash on August 05, 2016, 03:59:32 PM
Playing as Webb against Warren and Cuomo. I win every debate, and usually take IA and SC and sometimes NV with decent margins, but I always get destroyed on Super Tuesday. Any help?

Invest in 4-5 Super Tuesday states straight away, and make sure to do well in all states (the PR system for the Dem primaries means you can get destroyed; as Sanders did in RL in the South)

Basically from beginning you need to invest in the states

Invest in what sense?

Build up Organization and Footsoldiers. A couple of well-timed newspaper ads wouldn't hurt. You'll also want to keep up your momentum with rallying and barnstorming in those states.

I'm starting in July, how early should I start barnstorming and rallying?

Once you see that they are very high in power (above 5 IMO); that will allow you to gain even more momentum. I would say focus on the Main Early States when rallying and barnstorming, but then mix in some powerfilled stops in the ST states.

Gotcha, thanks!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on August 06, 2016, 02:05:00 PM
When I play as Sanders, usually I invest some CP into Command and Strategy while I focus heavily on Iowa and New Hampshire, once I win those, I use the momentum to campaign in the ST states and usually work to win O'Malley, Webb and Chafee's endorsements


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: White Trash on August 06, 2016, 04:08:08 PM
When I play as Sanders, usually I invest some CP into Command and Strategy while I focus heavily on Iowa and New Hampshire, once I win those, I use the momentum to campaign in the ST states and usually work to win O'Malley, Webb and Chafee's endorsements

How can I invest into command and strategy?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on August 06, 2016, 05:26:28 PM
When I play as Sanders, usually I invest some CP into Command and Strategy while I focus heavily on Iowa and New Hampshire, once I win those, I use the momentum to campaign in the ST states and usually work to win O'Malley, Webb and Chafee's endorsements

How can I invest into command and strategy?

Click on the button that has the figure of a human on it, it should pull up another screen, there is a button in the top right that has an i with a circle around it, click that then it will show your campaign attributes and you can allocate up to 3 CP's  into an attribute

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: White Trash on August 06, 2016, 06:01:51 PM
When I play as Sanders, usually I invest some CP into Command and Strategy while I focus heavily on Iowa and New Hampshire, once I win those, I use the momentum to campaign in the ST states and usually work to win O'Malley, Webb and Chafee's endorsements

How can I invest into command and strategy?

Click on the button that has the figure of a human on it, it should pull up another screen, there is a button in the top right that has an i with a circle around it, click that then it will show your campaign attributes and you can allocate up to 3 CP's  into an attribute

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Thank you so much. I wish there was a tutorial for this game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 06, 2016, 07:51:12 PM
Version update: My thing crashed in the middle of election night when I tested (i.e. skipped through) a Johnson/Stein race

RIP :(


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 07, 2016, 06:13:45 PM
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Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 294/49%
Governor John Kasich (R-OH) / Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 244/50.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 11, 2016, 02:22:12 PM
2016: Thanks, Obama!
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President Barack Obama (D-IL) / VP Joe Biden (D-DE) - 416/56.3%
Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) - 122/43.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 11, 2016, 02:43:42 PM
2016: Blasts from the Past
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Former Governor Michael Dukakis (D-MA) / Former VP Al Gore (D-TN) - 361/49.1%
Former VP Dan Quayle (R-IN) / Former Governor Jim Gilmore (R-VA) - 167/41.4%
Former Governor William Weld (L-MA) / Former Governor Jesse Ventura (L-MN) - 10/9.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on August 11, 2016, 03:09:51 PM
Hate how wacky the results can be. The 2008 version of the game was way more realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 11, 2016, 03:21:42 PM
In defense of the scenario I was using for the last two, it was a third-party scenario. :P


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on August 11, 2016, 07:41:32 PM
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Somedays I don't know what this comes up with.

Lincoln Chafee/Larry Lessig - 138 EV, 25.1%
Jim DeMint/Ben Carson - 159 EV, 28.9%
Al Gore/Bernie Sanders - 184 EV, 32.7%
Rand Paul/Jesse Ventura - 57 EV, 13.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on August 13, 2016, 11:05:25 AM
2016: The Old Folks At Home

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Gov. Jerry Brown/Rep. John Lewis - 40%, 247 EV
Fmr. VP Dan Quayle/Fmr. Spkr. Newt Gingrich - 31.1%, 167 EV
Fmr. Gov. William Weld/Fmr. Gov. Jesse Ventura - 10.7%, 77 EV
Fmr. VP Al Gore/Fmr. Rep. Cynthia McKinney - 18.2%, 47 EV

Every day, we stray further from God's light.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on August 13, 2016, 04:31:12 PM
Has anyone found you no longer get TV appearances since the new update? Have they changed how to get them or something?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on August 14, 2016, 11:09:32 PM
2000

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Senator Paul Wellstone of Minnesota and Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin (Democratic) - 276 EVs, 51.8% PV
Congressman John Kasich of Ohio and Governor John Engler of Michigan (Republican) - 262 EVs, 46.2% PV
Ralph Nader/some guy (Green) - 0 EVs, 1.2% PV
Pat Buchanan/some guy (Reform) - 0 EVs, 0.9% PV

Polls are tight throughout the race, with final polls showing Wellstone comfortably ahead of Kasich in the popular vote but an even contest in the electoral college.  A last-minute momentum boost and Kasich scandal propel Wellstone to victory.

Closest states are Arkansas (1,432 vote difference) and New Hampshire (3,973 vote difference).  (Thanks, angry NH women!)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 21, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
2008: Clinton/Kaine
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Governor Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 392/55.4%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) / Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 146/43.7%
Spectated as Barr. Surprisingly, Idaho voted to the left of Oregon.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 21, 2016, 07:28:08 PM
1980: The Upset
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President Jimmy Carter (D-GA) / VP Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 289/45.5%
Former Governor Ronald Reagan (R-CA) / Former CIA Director George Bush (R-TX) - 249/47.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: CatoMinor on August 22, 2016, 10:33:32 AM
I edited the 2004 scenario to give Powell a decent chance and made Chafee a slightly better sacrificial lamb.

In this run I played as Powell and had a tough fight against Bush. Chafee refused to drop out early so that played as a spoiler in several states I hoped to capitalize on and allowed Bush to begin retaking the lead. It turned into a tough state by state fight in the end where the last primaries decided it. Powell won the delegate vote by ~20 delegates and Bush won the popular vote 53-47

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 22, 2016, 03:01:23 PM
1972: Too Close for Comfort
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Representative John Ashbrook (R-OH) / Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR) - 271/51.5%
Senator George McGovern (D-SD) / Thomas Eagleton (D-MO) - 267/48.5%
McGovern started out at OTL 1972 levels. 1,493 votes in New Hampshire (You had one job, angry women!) would have swung the election to McGovern.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 25, 2016, 12:49:35 PM
Hillary Cleveland: A Mini-Timeline
2008:
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Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Former Governor Mark Warner (D-VA) - 339/55.5%
Senator John McCain (R-AZ) / Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK) - 199/43.6%
2012:
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Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA) / Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 299/50.2%
President Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / VP Mark Warner (D-VA) - 239/48.2%
2016:
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Former President Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 301/50.9%
President Mitt Romney (R-MA) / VP Paul Ryan (R-WI) - 237/48.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on September 01, 2016, 02:40:06 PM
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Former VP Al Gore (D-TN) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 415/47.2%
Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) - 123/39.2%
Each day, we die a little more


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 03, 2016, 11:33:26 AM
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President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 446/55.6
Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY) / Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN) - 49/30%
Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Governor Bill Weld (L-MA) - 43/9.8%
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Mr. Ajamu Baraka (G-GA) - 0/4.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on September 05, 2016, 02:12:52 PM
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Pres. Jimmy Carter (D-GA)/ Vice Pres. Walter Mondale (D-MN): 302EV; 48.5%
Rep. Phil Crane (R-IL)/ Rep. Jack Kemp (R-NY): 236EV; 44.5%
Rep. John B. Anderson (I-IL)/ Gov. Patrick Lucey: 0EV; 6.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on September 08, 2016, 03:47:25 AM
Are you able to post more than just President Forever/Infinity in this tread?
If so, there is an interesting Congress Infinity game I had...

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D Gain
D Hold
R Gain
R Hold
L Gain
G Gain

Republicans: 216 Seats
Democrats: 213 Seats
Libertarians: 3 Seats
Greens: 3 Seats


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on September 10, 2016, 02:16:42 PM
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MARCO RUBIO/CHRIS CHRISTIE 45.3% - 72,939,846 - 279
BERNIE SANDERS/ANDREW CUOMO 44.1% - 71,016,728 - 259
GARY JOHNSON/BILL WELD 6.8% - 10,868,707
JILL STEIN/AJAMU BARAKA 2.6% - 4,143,976
DARRELL CASTLE/SCOTT BRADLEY 1.3% - 2,045,684

Closest states:

MINNESOTA:

RUBIO 32.5% - 923,570
STEIN 31.9% - 907,450
JOHNSON 23.2% - 660,683
SANDERS 12.4% - 353,430

VIRGINIA:

SANDERS - 48.2% - 2,023,996
RUBIO 47.3% - 1,986,514
JOHNSON 3.6% - 150,253
STEIN 1% - 41,940

OHIO:

SANDERS 47.4% - 2,952,028
RUBIO 46.1% - 2,867,477
JOHNSON 5.6% - 351,269
STEIN 0.8% - 50,979

NEW MEXICO:

RUBIO 31.9% - 339,685
JOHNSON 25.4% - 270,598
STEIN 22.2% - 236,354
CASTLE 12.4% - 131,709
SANDERS 8.1% - 85,980

Sanders obliterated Hillary Clinton in the primaries winning 65% of the vote and 2,985 delegates while Cruz, Rubio and Trump fought all the way to the convention, other candidates had a combined total of 550 delegates that threw the majority of their support behind Rubio who was 2nd overall in delegates, Trump threw his delegates behind Rubio allowing Rubio to become the GOP nominee (I was Cruz and finished just 92 delegates short) and then Rubio picked former rival Christie as his VP.

Sanders was leading throughout most of the late summer/early fall periods with average polling around 47-50% of the vote and 300+ electoral votes, but after a BLM scandal, ISIS attack and endless amounts of negative ads thrown his way, Sanders dropped to an average of 43-45% of the vote and allowed me (Rubio) to take the lead.

Jill Stein spent most of the campaign in Minnesota and threw ad after ad attacking Sanders


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: LLR on September 10, 2016, 03:15:00 PM
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Amy Klobuchar/Sherrod Brown 331 EVs, 49.7%
John Thune/Marco Rubio 207 EVs, 45.5%
Michael Bloomberg/Chuck Hagel 0 EVs, 3.3%


Played as Bloomberg, hit 12% in NJ, 8% in CT, 6% in NY, 4% in CA


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on September 11, 2016, 11:53:25 AM
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Fmr. Gov. GEORGE ELMER PATAKI (R-NY) / VP Joe Biden (D-DE) - 317/38.9%
Fmr. SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 133/31.1%
Donald Trump (R-NY) / Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN) - 88/29.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on September 12, 2016, 02:51:19 PM
I am sure there are others, but I do enjoy seeing everyone else's results here.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on September 12, 2016, 06:48:08 PM
Are you able to post more than just President Forever/Infinity in this tread?
If so, there is an interesting Congress Infinity game I had...

()

D Gain
D Hold
R Gain
R Hold
L Gain
G Gain

Republicans: 216 Seats
Democrats: 213 Seats
Libertarians: 3 Seats
Greens: 3 Seats

Is that the 2014 scenario with more parties? (Libertarian, Constitution, Green, Reform)

If so, I'm actually the guy who made that scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on September 12, 2016, 07:23:32 PM
2016
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President Barack Obama (D-IL) / VP Joe Biden (D-DE) - 457/61%
Herman Cain (R-GA) / Dr. Ben Carson (R-FL) - 81/39%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Blair on September 14, 2016, 06:45:19 PM
Has anyone stopped having the chance to do TV performances/interviews?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on September 14, 2016, 09:20:19 PM
Are you able to post more than just President Forever/Infinity in this tread?
If so, there is an interesting Congress Infinity game I had...

()

D Gain
D Hold
R Gain
R Hold
L Gain
G Gain

Republicans: 216 Seats
Democrats: 213 Seats
Libertarians: 3 Seats
Greens: 3 Seats

Is that the 2014 scenario with more parties? (Libertarian, Constitution, Green, Reform)

If so, I'm actually the guy who made that scenario.

Yes, it is that scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: rpryor03 on September 15, 2016, 09:44:07 PM
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President Hillary Clinton/Vice President Tim Kaine - 261 EV, 38.1%
Governor Greg Abbott/Representative Trey Gowdy - 232 EV, 38.7%
Mr. Penn Jillette/Mr. Austin Petersen - 42 EV, 17.3%
Senator Bernie Sanders/Dr. Jill Stein - 3 EV, 5.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on September 28, 2016, 07:18:56 PM
Are you able to post more than just President Forever/Infinity in this tread?
If so, there is an interesting Congress Infinity game I had...

()

D Gain
D Hold
R Gain
R Hold
L Gain
G Gain

Republicans: 216 Seats
Democrats: 213 Seats
Libertarians: 3 Seats
Greens: 3 Seats
I want to mention something about his one. I would have gotten 218 if it wasn't for the Republican gains...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on October 02, 2016, 05:09:57 PM
2016 - Democratic Primary

I played as Biden on hard. Clinton, Webb, Sanders, O'Malley were also candidates.

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Biden (me, blue) - 2040 delegates, 41.8% pop vote (2,383 delegates needed to clinche)
Clinton (red) - 2061 delegates, 37.5% pop vote
Sanders - 440 delegates, 10.9% pop vote, endorsed Biden
O'Malley - 196 delegates, 5.3% pop vote, withdrew
Webb - 28 delegates, 4.5% pop vote, withdrew

I ultimately win the nomination on round 4 of voting with 2,704 to Clinton's 2,061. Bush/Portman is the GOP ticket. I picked Sherrod Brown for VP.

We start off at a severe disadvantage.
Bush/Portman - 48.8% and 379 EV
Biden/Brown - 39.7% and 153 EV
Bloomberg/Hagel - 4.8% and 0 EV
Stein/Baraka - 1.6% and 0 EV
Ventura/Whatever - 1.4% and 0 EV

TWO DAYS BEFORE E-DAY


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Bush/Portman - 359 EV, 47.3% PV
Biden/Brown - 165 EV, 40.6% PV
Bloomberg/Hagel - 5.5% PV, 0 EV
Stein/Baraka - 1.7% PV, 0 EV
Ventura/Whoever - 1.7% PV, 0 EV

My chances are not good. I had caught up slighty but got hit with a level 10 scandal.

Final Result

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Blue - Gov. Jeb Bush (R-FL) / Sen. Rob Portman (R-OH) - 339 EV, 48.6% PV
Red - VP Joe Biden (D-DE) / Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) - 199 EV, 41.9% PV
Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY) / Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) - 0 EV, 5.6% PV
Jill Stein (G-MA) / Whoever Baraka - 0 EV, 2.1% PV
Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN) / Whoever - 0 EV, 1.8% PV

Closest States (under 5% diff):
Pennsylvania - 0.5%
New Hampshire - 1.3%
Washington - 1.4%
Oregon - 1.6%
Illinois - 1.6%
New Jersey - 1.8%
New York - 2.6%
California - 2.6%
Maine - 2.8%
Virginia - 2.8%
Florida - 3.1%
Iowa - 3.6%
Nevada - 4.1%
Missouri - 4.6%



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Fmr President & Senator Polnut on October 03, 2016, 05:30:49 AM
A weird 1980 scenario... this one went down to the wire.

I was behind for a long time, got hit by scandals and bad interviews. My focus was on TX, CA, PA, WI, MO, OR and WA.

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Reagan/Bush - 307EV - 45.9%
Kennedy/Bentsen - 231EV - 46.4%
Anderson/Lucie - 0EV - 7.7%

All states decided by 5% or less are in 30% shading.

Target states
TX - Kennedy +5%
PA - Kennedy +0.2%
WI - Reagan +1.1%
MO - Kennedy +0.4%
OR - Reagan +0.6%
WA - Reagan +1.2%
finally the state that decided the election
CA - Reagan +0.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 03, 2016, 06:20:42 PM
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National results:

TRUMP/CRUZ - 45.5% - 75,430,204 votes - 315 E.V
CLINTON/BIDEN - 38.7% - 64,217,111 votes  - 223
JOHNSON/PERRY (LOL) - 5.9% - 9,851,938 votes
BLOOMBERG/SCOTT - 3.5% - 5,736,538 votes
STEIN/BARAKA - 2.7% - 4,451,655 votes
GRAYSON/DUBOIS - 2.2% - 3,701,629 votes
CASTLE/BRADLEY - 1.4% - 2,399,275 votes

States decided by <5%:

Florida - CLINTON + 4.1%
Pennsylvania - TRUMP + 3.6%
Indiana - TRUMP + 1.1%
North Carolina - TRUMP + 2.3%
Virginia - TRUMP + 4.4%
Washington - TRUMP + 3.6%
California - CLINTON + 3.8%
Wisconsin - CLINTON + 1.7%
New York - CLINTON + 0.1%
Delaware - TRUMP + 4.5%
New Jersey - CLINTON + 1.1%
South Carolina - CLINTON + 3.0%
Vermont - TRUMP + 3.4%
South Dakota - TRUMP + 0.8%

Played as TRUMP


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on October 08, 2016, 07:12:11 PM
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Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 57.6%/421
Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) / Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) - 40.7%/117
Spectated as Stein and got 1.7% of the vote.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on October 09, 2016, 03:16:36 AM
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Fmr. SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/ Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
416 EV, 76,247,069 (52.8%)
Businessman Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/ Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN)
122 EV, 58,661,096 (40.6%)
Fmr. Gov Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Att. William Weld (L-MA)
0 EV, 9,491,330 (6.6%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on October 15, 2016, 01:33:01 PM
I've made a nice little scenario!

http://www.filedropper.com/2004-unitedstatesradbradley


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on October 17, 2016, 01:15:18 PM
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Fmr. SoS Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/ Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
416 EV, 76,247,069 (52.8%)
Businessman Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/ Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN)
122 EV, 58,661,096 (40.6%)
Fmr. Gov Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Att. William Weld (L-MA)
0 EV, 9,491,330 (6.6%)

Why did you call Bill Weld "attorney" and not Governor?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on October 18, 2016, 06:43:03 PM
2016
Played as Barack Obama for a third term. Defeated Clinton, Sanders and O'Malley easily in the primary. Clinton only won NY after I locked up the nomination.

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President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 342 EV, 48.4% PV
Donald J. Trump (R-NY) / Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) - 196 EV, 48.9% PV (wtf)
Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN) / John McAfee (L-VA) - 2% PV
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Cheri Honkala (G-WE) - 0.7% PV

I lost New Mexico 59-37 and it was never in play. I had built infrastructure but the result is strange.
WE = Whatever


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on October 19, 2016, 05:55:47 PM
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HILLARY CLINTON - 38.9% - 56,490,463
JOHN KASICH - 35% - 50,829,006
RAND PAUL - 13.1% - 18,949,054
AL GORE - 12.4% - 18,035,416
SCOTT COPELAND - 0.5% - 719,356
GREG ANDERSON - 0% - 54,250


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ‼realJohnEwards‼ on October 21, 2016, 08:20:54 AM
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Former VP Al Gore (D-TN) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 415/47.2%
Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Mike Pence (R-IN) - 123/39.2%
Each day, we die a little more
Happy South Dakota Farmers!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potus on October 28, 2016, 12:55:31 AM
The Favorite Daughter

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ELECTION NIGHT 2016
Susana Martinez/Mike Pence- 277 EV, 51.2% PV
Hillary Clinton/Amy Klobuchar- 261 EV, 48.8% PV

New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez's unlikely trip to the White House began on a muggy night in late April. Delegates from New Mexico were unpledged, nominated by a new convention approved by the state party. The ongoing three car pile-up between the frontrunner Donald Trump, the runner up Ted Cruz, and the lagging third place Ben Carson was wrecking the Party's chances at retaking the White House. "We've been handed the perfect candidate to run against, Hillary Clinton, and we're going to let it slip away," a New Mexico delegate said, speaking under the condition of anonymity.

At this meeting, they invited their Governor, the first Latina to hold that office, to hear their vision. Because of their unbound status, they would sit out the first ballot. Trump, Cruz, Carson, and the other primary winners would deadlock the convention on the first ballot. Since their withdrawal from the race for the nomination, New Mexico delegates had actively worked to build relationships with delegates bound to Governors Chris Christie and Jeb Bush as well as Senator Marco Rubio. They all had found common ground in seeking an electable conservative.

Governor Martinez gave the organizers the freedom to operate. When they had signed petitions from the delegates pledged to the withdrawn candidates, and even several delegates pledged to those still vying for the nomination, Martinez agreed to place a call to the withdrawn candidates. In the weeks ahead, Governor Martinez attended large rallies and fundraisers for the GOP Senate candidates in Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Colorado, and Nevada. She was laying the ground work for her swing state campaign.

Several leaders in the party, included the withdrawn candidates, placed the notion of nominating a non-candidate in the public consciousness. Their talking points became reality when the New Mexico delegation placed Governor Martinez's name in contest on the second ballot. Christie, Bush, and Rubio delegates flocked to Governor Martinez, pushing her into a fourth place in terms of delegates. Without effort from the Martinez people, Governors Bobby Jindal and Scott Walker took to the stage and endorsed Martinez's candidacy for the President. Their middling amount of delegates barely pushed Martinez ahead of Carson, eliminating him from the fifth round.

With Carson-Cruz seemingly united, there were some concerns Martinez would fall by the wayside. However, those fears were stunningly put to bed when Governor Martinez placed just two delegates ahead of Ted Cruz, eliminating him from the seventh ballot. Martinez held a late-night meeting Cruz leaders and promised to nominate Governor Mike Pence of Indiana as her running mate. They accepted the deal as a sign of her conservative commitment.

Governor Susana Martinez was officially nominated by the 2016 Republican National Convention in Cleveland on the 7th Ballot. Her nominee for running mate, Governor Mike Pence, was nominated on his first vote.

In contrast, Hillary Clinton was nominated alongside Amy Klobuchar to represent the Democratic Party on the first ballot.

The general election campaign was a slog. The Martinez campaign had virtually no infrastructure in place, low name recognition, and a difficult time generating small dollar donations. With little money and little time, Governor Martinez worked harder at more events than any presidential candidate in the history of the Republic.

Attacks against Mike Pence's record on social issues poured into swing states. Martinez responded with her characteristic defense of the ticket: We are the party of leadership and integrity. She would then turn to Clinton's chronic inability to manage global hotspots as Secretary of State and her aversion to respecting the law and telling the truth. Huge amounts of money and a very favorable media characterized Clinton's lead.

Throughout most of the fall campaign, the race shifted from being a straight-up tie to a <1 point lead for Clinton. Several major states tracked closely with the national numbers. The Martinez campaign, however, still had paid polling operations in New Mexico. Those internal polls consistently showed Martinez approximately three points ahead of her public polls in the state.

On the eve of the election, Martinez get a rousing speech to thousands of supporters claiming that she truly believed they were destined for victory the next day, against all the money, the media, and the public data. The silent majority, the logic goes, will bring an end to the corrupt Clintonian politics politics of the past.

In an exceedingly narrow election, Governor Susana Martinez, the unlikely nominee, became the unlikely  Fourty-Fifth President of the United States.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Potus on October 28, 2016, 02:00:20 AM
Editor's Notes: the actual mechanics of the Draft Martinez thing were pretty basic. I ran as Martinez and campaigned only in NM, claiming around 90% of the vote. Thus, New Mexico's "unbound" delegation in the story.

I took a lot of fire on the Role of Government, so I chalked that up to attacks on Pence and generic liberal stuff. I'd be happy to answer questions


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on October 28, 2016, 07:17:03 AM
So I assume her sister was magically cured?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on November 01, 2016, 01:08:59 AM
Simmed through a 2008 scenario as Bob Barr.

Here's the DEM map:

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Obama = 40% Red
Gore = 30% Red
Clinton = 30% Blue
Edwards = 30% Green
Biden = 40% Blue
Richardson = 40% Green

Obama won the nomination in a convention dogfight, beating out Hillary Clinton, like in real life. Only difference is that Clinton was third in delegate count (Gore bizarrely dropped out and endorsed Clinton a few days before the convention).

Obama chose Kerry as his VP.


I have no idea how Biden did so well while losing Delaware in a landslide to Obama. Clinton barely lost NY to Gore.

GOP Map:

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Giuliani = 40% Blue
McCain = 40% Green
Thompson = 40% Red
Rice = 90% Red
Romney = 30% Blue
Huckabee = 30% Green
Hunter = 30% Red

Giuliani barely fights off McCain in a stunning GOP convention dogfight. Almost all the other candidates endorsed McCain to try and prevent a Rudy nomination but Condi Rice saved him via endorsement.

Giuliani then picks Rice to be his VP. Making the GOP ticket all Pro-Choice, in a weird twist. What's even funnier is that Giuliani lost NY to Rice by like 15% in the primaries lol.

idk how the heck Duncan Hunter won Iowa but he fizzled out almost immediately after and dropped out after Florida and endorsed Thompson.

Will post general election once I sim to it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: SATW on November 01, 2016, 01:17:52 AM
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2008 General Election: Giuliani stumps Obama; Neoconservative GOP wins third term.
Giuliani-Rice: 336 EVs 49.8%
Obama-Kerry: 202 EVs 49.6%
Barr-Root: 0 EVs 0.6%

No damn idea how this map happened. Giuliani went into election day with a small lead, but neither candidate had over 270 EVs.

Giuliani won a stunning 1.5% win in California.
Obama won by 8% in Indiana LOL.
Giuliani barely wins Texas, 52-46, but wins Florida 56-42...
Obama wins in NY by an underwhelming 9% margin.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on November 01, 2016, 04:10:25 AM
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2008 General Election: Giuliani stumps Obama; Neoconservative GOP wins third term.
Giuliani-Rice: 336 EVs 49.8%
Obama-Kerry: 202 EVs 49.6%
Barr-Root: 0 EVs 0.6%

No damn idea how this map happened. Giuliani went into election day with a small lead, but neither candidate had over 270 EVs.

Giuliani won a stunning 1.5% win in California.
Obama won by 8% in Indiana LOL.
Giuliani barely wins Texas, 52-46, but wins Florida 56-42...
Obama wins in NY by an underwhelming 9% margin.

What the... How is this even possible?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on November 01, 2016, 05:13:07 AM
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2008 General Election: Giuliani stumps Obama; Neoconservative GOP wins third term.
Giuliani-Rice: 336 EVs 49.8%
Obama-Kerry: 202 EVs 49.6%
Barr-Root: 0 EVs 0.6%

No damn idea how this map happened. Giuliani went into election day with a small lead, but neither candidate had over 270 EVs.

Giuliani won a stunning 1.5% win in California.
Obama won by 8% in Indiana LOL.
Giuliani barely wins Texas, 52-46, but wins Florida 56-42...
Obama wins in NY by an underwhelming 9% margin.

What the... How is this even possible?
Ever watch The West Wing?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on November 01, 2016, 05:45:24 AM
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2008 General Election: Giuliani stumps Obama; Neoconservative GOP wins third term.
Giuliani-Rice: 336 EVs 49.8%
Obama-Kerry: 202 EVs 49.6%
Barr-Root: 0 EVs 0.6%

No damn idea how this map happened. Giuliani went into election day with a small lead, but neither candidate had over 270 EVs.

Giuliani won a stunning 1.5% win in California.
Obama won by 8% in Indiana LOL.
Giuliani barely wins Texas, 52-46, but wins Florida 56-42...
Obama wins in NY by an underwhelming 9% margin.

What the... How is this even possible?
Ever watch The West Wing?
This is true


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on November 01, 2016, 04:35:24 PM
Gave it another go with my third term for Barack Obama campaign.

2016

Democratic Primary: Sanders decides to run, Obama cruises to victory with 80+% of the vote and every state.

Republican Primary: All of the regulars run, Trump wins in a contested convention against Cruz

Election Day Eve

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Obama: 371 EV - 48.7 PV
Trump: 160 EV - 45.1 PV
Johnson - 1.6 PV
Stein - 0.5 PV
Tossup: 7 EV, 4% PV

Results

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President Barack Obama (D-IL) / Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) - 382 EV, 53% PV
Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) - 156 EV, 44.7% PV
Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM) / Whoever - 1.7% PV
Jill Stein (G-MA) / Whoever 0.6% PV

Closest States (under 5%):

New Hampshire - 181 votes or 0.023%
Mississippi - 1.2%
Indiana - 1.6%
Georgia - 2%
Colorado - 4.7%

Surprising results:

Obama won Florida by 17%, VA, NV, NC by 13+%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on November 05, 2016, 06:19:47 AM
http://www.270towin.com/maps/Wk4gK

Fmr. SoS Hillary Clinton/Sec. Julian Castro: 371 Electoral Votes/49.4%
Businessman Donald J. Trump/Gov. Michael Pence: 167 Electoral Votes/40.4%
Fmr. Gov Gary Johnson/Fmr. Gov William Weld: 7.1%
"Dr." Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka: 1.6%

Closest states:
1%
Florida: 1.2%
Kentucky: 1.2%
Nevada: 1.2%

Missouri: 1.5%

2%

2.5%

Indiana: 2.8%




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on November 11, 2016, 03:55:25 PM

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Closest area was NE-2:
CLINTON - 137,250 - 45.5%
CRUZ - 136,925 - 45.4%
JOHNSON - 27,313 - 9.1%

Then ME-1:
CRUZ - 257,757 - 31.6%
CLINTON - 211,987 - 26%
STEIN - 177,207 - 21.7%
JOHNSON - 168,026 - 20.6%

^^^ numbers need to be corrected for ME-1


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: ASPN on November 18, 2016, 11:32:25 PM
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Kennedy EV: 275 PV: 51% 67,354,201

Bush EV: 263 PV: 44.1% 57,517,159

Used a 2000 scenario and managed to eak out a surprisingly close victory. I even hit him with two scandals, not to mention all the ads I ran. Virginia was the closest, with me winning 46.4%-46.3%. Wouldn't even know if I would win till Washington State results came in.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on November 23, 2016, 06:26:46 PM
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Former Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) - 422/54.3%
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Carly Fiorina (R-VA) - 116/43.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: bagelman on November 23, 2016, 08:47:59 PM
This game is just nuts now. Take these two Cruz vs. Clinton elections: On one map you have Cruz winning the PV and picking up NJ, ME-01, and IL while Clinton wins the EV gaining OH, NC, and AZ. On another map Cruz loses KS and NE, including NE-03, but wins OREGON.

I own a copy of this game but I no longer feel like I should bother playing it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on November 23, 2016, 08:49:36 PM
This game is just nuts now. Take these two Cruz vs. Clinton elections: On one map you have Cruz winning the PV and picking up NJ, ME-01, and IL while Clinton wins the EV gaining OH, NC, and AZ. On another map Cruz loses KS and NE, including NE-03, but wins OREGON.

I own a copy of this game but I no longer feel like I should bother playing it.

I was playing as Cruz here and was focusing on some unusual states, but I do agree it does need to be tweaked,

Anthony is actually adding a bunch of new stuff eventually that will correct this..such as favorability, voting blocks, etc.,


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on November 24, 2016, 12:02:33 AM
This game is just nuts now. Take these two Cruz vs. Clinton elections: On one map you have Cruz winning the PV and picking up NJ, ME-01, and IL while Clinton wins the EV gaining OH, NC, and AZ. On another map Cruz loses KS and NE, including NE-03, but wins OREGON.

I own a copy of this game but I no longer feel like I should bother playing it.

I was playing as Cruz here and was focusing on some unusual states, but I do agree it does need to be tweaked,

Anthony is actually adding a bunch of new stuff eventually that will correct this..such as favorability, voting blocks, etc.,

Have we got any info on how he is progressing with these at the moment?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on November 25, 2016, 07:28:42 PM
This game is just nuts now. Take these two Cruz vs. Clinton elections: On one map you have Cruz winning the PV and picking up NJ, ME-01, and IL while Clinton wins the EV gaining OH, NC, and AZ. On another map Cruz loses KS and NE, including NE-03, but wins OREGON.

I own a copy of this game but I no longer feel like I should bother playing it.

I was playing as Cruz here and was focusing on some unusual states, but I do agree it does need to be tweaked,

Anthony is actually adding a bunch of new stuff eventually that will correct this..such as favorability, voting blocks, etc.,

Have we got any info on how he is progressing with these at the moment?

He posted this on his blog as a comment:

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anthony_270admin November 23, 2016 at 1:05 pm #
@Caleb,

No updates yet. There will be a PMI – UK update first, then work will resume on PI and updated issues, favorability, and voting blocs.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on November 26, 2016, 01:51:51 AM
I only use PFE'08, as I've heard the newer additions leave a bit to be desired. Glad to hear that they are working on it though, I'd love to get the newer version once it's ready.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: BSH on December 02, 2016, 01:24:32 AM
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Julian Castro (D-TX)/Joaquin Castro (D-TX*) - 305EV, 38.2%
Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Allen West (R-GA) - 233EV, 37.8%
Glenn Beck (L-TX)/Rand Paul (L-KY) - 0EV, 10.9%
Jill Stein (G-MA)/Al Gore (G-TN) - 0EV, 13%

*Lets just assume one of them changed their residency
Yes, these are the most nonsensical tickets I could think of to run


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on December 02, 2016, 08:03:43 AM
Does anyone else try to mimic a candidate's RL strategy? For instance: as Trump in 2016 don't put many ground game operations or ads in place but make a lot of speeches, as Kasich put everything into NH, as Giuliani in 2008 ignore every state prior to Florida etc.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on December 02, 2016, 01:22:55 PM
Does anyone else try to mimic a candidate's RL strategy? For instance: as Trump in 2016 don't put many ground game operations or ads in place but make a lot of speeches, as Kasich put everything into NH, as Giuliani in 2008 ignore every state prior to Florida etc.

I did that with Bernie Sanders in a 2016 custom scenario I made.

I can't wait for Anthony to add in the voting blocs and favorability and make the game more realistic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Phony Moderate on December 03, 2016, 11:12:25 AM
Obama vs. Trump 2012:

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Wanna know what the popular vote was?

Obama - 57,128,492/45.0%
Trump - 69,809,063/55.0%

Every Obama state (aside from about three) was within single digits, with NY and CA both being within 5%. Trump broke 70% in TX, 60% in FL. In fact he broke 60% in every state he won aside from OH, PA (both were as close as they usually are) and MO (which he won by 'only' 58-42 or so).

I'm sure everything was plain-sailing in the aftermath...


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Slow Learner on December 11, 2016, 09:38:23 AM
I'm wondering - does anyone have the 2000 - Wacked Edition scenario? Seems quite good, but the only download link is to the now defunct megaupload.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on December 12, 2016, 03:32:37 PM
Does anyone else try to mimic a candidate's RL strategy? For instance: as Trump in 2016 don't put many ground game operations or ads in place but make a lot of speeches, as Kasich put everything into NH, as Giuliani in 2008 ignore every state prior to Florida etc.

I have to an extent but only when it is a broad strategy. The game can't simulate unique strategies like "oh wow look he put EVERYTHING on the line in XXX state and won."


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on December 13, 2016, 06:01:05 PM
CLINTON LANDSLIDE

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Closest state FLORIDA

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Biggest Clinton state:

Oregon:

Hillary Clinton - 84.8% - 1,810,279
Donald Trump - 15.2% - 324,464

Clinton MoV - 69.6%

Biggest Trump state:

Texas:

Donald Trump - 62.8% - 7,754,566
Hillary Clinton - 37.2% - 4,600,540

Trump MoV - 25.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on December 13, 2016, 06:06:08 PM
Gotta love Ohio voting to the right of Nebraska (and Oklahoma and WV, for that matter).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on December 13, 2016, 06:22:29 PM
CLINTON LANDSLIDE

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Closest state FLORIDA

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Biggest Clinton state:

Oregon:

Hillary Clinton - 84.8% - 1,810,279
Donald Trump - 15.2% - 324,464

Clinton MoV - 69.6%

Biggest Trump state:

Texas:

Donald Trump - 62.8% - 7,754,566
Hillary Clinton - 37.2% - 4,600,540

Trump MoV - 25.6%

This map makes NO sense, but still interesting.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on December 13, 2016, 06:30:28 PM
CLINTON LANDSLIDE

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Closest state FLORIDA

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Biggest Clinton state:

Oregon:

Hillary Clinton - 84.8% - 1,810,279
Donald Trump - 15.2% - 324,464

Clinton MoV - 69.6%

Biggest Trump state:

Texas:

Donald Trump - 62.8% - 7,754,566
Hillary Clinton - 37.2% - 4,600,540

Trump MoV - 25.6%

This map makes NO sense, but still interesting.

I basically ignored Florida and Ohio (I only campaigned there the last 3 days of the campaign) I lost them by 1.3% on average, Trump had a 46.4% to 45.3% national lead over me with 278 E.V's going into the final week of the campaign, I basically ad nuked the country with MULTIPLE anti-Trump ads and 2 pro-Clinton ads he had a negative momentum of -13.5 and I had a positive momentum of 8.3 going into election day.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Orthogonian Society Treasurer on December 29, 2016, 09:35:44 PM
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Fmr. Senator Jim Webb (D-VA)/Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) - 324 EV (44.5%)
Governor John Kasich (R-OH)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) - 211 EV (37.5%)
Senator Bernie Sanders (G-VT)/Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) - 3 EV (10.8%)
Senator Rand Paul (L-KY)/Fmr. Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM) - 0 EV (7.3%)



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on December 31, 2016, 12:13:10 AM
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Businessman Donald J. Trump (R-NY)/Senator Bob Corker (R-TN): 330 Electoral Votes, 44.20% of the popular vote.
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA): 208 Electoral Votes, 40.90% of the popular vote.
Former Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/Former Governor Bill Weld (L-MA): 14.80% of the popular vote.

Played the General Election campaign in a scenario I made out of an older one. I followed Trump’s real strategy to a tee, but prepared more for the debates. Focusing on immigration, free trade, and integrity, I ran a constant trickle of anti-Clinton ads. In some ways, the campaign mirrored real life. I still crapped the bed in the first two debates, and at one point Johnson lead in NM and peaked at 19%. SC, TX, etc, were in play. However, my successful campaign against Hillary (with not a single “Is Trump too negative headline” hurting my momentum) combined with a medium sized scandal dropped five days before the election did her in.

I came within 3% of winning RI, 4% in VT, WA, NY, and carried WI by about 8%. MI was tight, but not as tight as OH (where Johnson was off the ballot), which Trump carried 50.8%-49.2%. Carried CO by 10% and NH by 15% (so much for the angry women!) What a fun game!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on January 01, 2017, 04:07:02 PM
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Vice President Joe Biden (D-DE) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) - 379/51.7%
Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) / Carly Fiorina (R-VA) - 153/40.4%
Egg McMuffin (I-UT) / Mindy Finn (I-DC) - 6/0.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on January 12, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
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Senator Tim Kaine / Secretary Hillary Clinton (D-NY) - 422/61.5%
Carly Fiorina / Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) - 116/36.4%
Kaine reached 102 million votes.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on January 24, 2017, 05:55:25 PM
New feature being added to PI in the coming weeks ()


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: fortitudo94 on February 17, 2017, 10:04:32 AM
Does anyone know how to crack demo or where Can I get the full version 2016 or also older version?

PM please.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Lachi on February 18, 2017, 06:52:42 AM
Does anyone know how to crack demo or where Can I get the full version 2016 or also older version?

PM please.
We do not help with the act of pirating.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on February 22, 2017, 05:14:34 PM
Does anyone know how to crack demo or where Can I get the full version 2016 or also older version?

PM please.
I saw your posts on AH.com. Just buy the game like everyone else already.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on February 22, 2017, 05:26:29 PM
Does anyone know how to crack demo or where Can I get the full version 2016 or also older version?

PM please.
I saw your posts on AH.com. Just buy the game like everyone else already.

Yeah, it's super cheap.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on March 07, 2017, 12:22:40 AM
Does anyone know how to crack demo or where Can I get the full version 2016 or also older version?

PM please.
I saw your posts on AH.com. Just buy the game like everyone else already.

I'm pretty sure he ended up getting kicked for a week due to asking people to find him a pirated copy of the game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on March 07, 2017, 09:04:25 AM
Played a fan-made 1860 scenario as Breckinridge/Lane of the Southern Democrats.

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303 EV, 152 to win
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) / Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) - 141 EV, 29.5%
John C. Breckinridge (SD-KY) / Joseph Lane (SD-OR) - 118 EV, 30.6%
Stephen A. Douglas (D-IL) / Herschel V. Johnson (D-GA) - 44 EV, 24.5%
John Bell (CU-TN) / Edward Everett (CU-MA) - 0 EV, 14.8%
Liberty Party - 0.6%

Won the popular vote, prevented Bell from getting any EV, and denied Lincoln an electoral majority thanks to Douglas taking NY, although Lincoln was ultimately chosen by the Congress anyway. Might've got Pennsylvania if I'd focused on it earlier. Still an enjoyable game. Note: The split of EV in NJ was not simulated.




Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on March 08, 2017, 02:20:15 AM
1844 as Clay/Frelinghuysen of Whigs
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275 EV, 138 to win
Henry Clay (W-KY) / Theodore Frelinghuysen (W-NY) - 204 EV, 50.1% ✔
James K. Polk (D-TN) / George M. Dallas (D-PA) - 71 EV, 47%
James G. Birney (L-MI) / Thomas Morris (L-OH) - 0 EV, 2.9%

Strangely won several Deep South states which I don't think would be historically possible - Clay was disliked in that region. Fun game anyways.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on March 08, 2017, 04:49:31 AM
1912 as Roosevelt/Johnson of Progressives (Bull Moose)
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531 EV, 266 to win
Theodore Roosevelt (P-NY) / Hiram W. Johnson (P-CA) - 435 EV, 47.9% ✔
Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) / Thomas R. Marshall (D-IN) - 96 EV, 31.7%
William Howard Taft (R-OH) / Nicolas Butler (R-NY) - 0 EV, 16.3%
Eugene V. Debs (S-IN) / Emil Seidel (S-WI) - 0 EV, 4%

Was on the brink of losing Pennsylvania in the first half, but the result turned out to be better than expected. Deprived Taft of any EV, and somehow penetrated the Solid South (Arkansas not voting Democrats?!). Fun game.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on March 09, 2017, 06:54:29 AM
1920 as Cox/FDR
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531 EV, 266 to win
James M. Cox (D-OH) / Franklin Delano Roosevelt (D-NY) - 270 EV, 50.8% ✔
Warren G. Harding (R-OH) / Calvin Coolidge (R-MA) - 261 EV, 47.3%
Eugene V. Debs (S-IN) / Seymour Stedman (S-IL) - 0 EV, 1.9%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on March 09, 2017, 08:45:57 AM
1896 as Bryan/Sewall
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447 EV, 224 to win
William Jennings Bryan (D-NE) / Arthur Sewall (D-ME) - 230 EV, 46.8%
William McKinley (R-OH) / Garret A. Hobart (R-NJ) - 217EV, 51.2%
National Democrats - 0.8%
Prohibition - 1.2%

This and 1920 were quite close, since historically Republicans had huge advantages. For this one, I even stepped out of the traditional Democrat safe zone in light of previous defeats for trying to hold the South and the mountain states. The result was a mess, with both parties getting states that would've been improbable to carry in that era - McKinley invaded my Solid South and almost got Arkansas and Georgia, while I narrowly broke through a number of industrial states. A slim electoral win with an almost 5% popular vote loss. Intense.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on March 30, 2017, 12:49:51 AM
I played a custom 2016 scenario as McMullin with the only goal of winning Utah.  I pulled off an upset in Utah (with the last poll showing Trump ahead there) and was able to throw the election to the House, which elected Trump.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on April 10, 2017, 07:56:22 AM
1880 as Hancocks/English
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369 EV, 185 to win
Winfield Scott Hancocks (D-PA) / William Hayden English (D-IN) - 188 EV, 49.5%
James Garfield (R-OH) / Chester Arthur (R-NY) - 181 EV, 46.5%
James Weaver (G-IA) / Barzillai Jefferson Chambers (G-TX) - 0 EV, 4%

Another close one.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on May 03, 2017, 05:41:46 PM
2016:
I played as Bernie Sanders. Bobby Jindal won a floor fight at the GOP Convention on the 5th ballot (Jeb Bush had the most delegates entering the convention, Jindal was like third to last but racked up almost all endorsements of eliminated candidates, rocketed into 2nd place and as Rubio (2nd in primaries, now 3rd) was eliminated, Jindal got a majority).

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT): 84,150,275 (50.5%) 322 EVs
Fmr. Gov. Bobby Jindal (R-LA): 81,028,096 (48.6%) 216 EVs
Fmr. Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM): 1,241,718 (0.7%) 0 EVs
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA): 371,036 (0.2%) 0 EVs
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2020: An even bigger spoiler than 2000?
What if Clinton and Trump had a rematch in 2020?
Despite a popular vote and electoral plurality, Clinton is just 19 electors short. The House of Representatives chooses Pres. Donald Trump.

Fmr. Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Fmr. Gov. Tim Kaine (D-VA): 55,403,634 (39.3%) 251 EVs
Pres. Donald Trump (R-NY) / VP Mike Pence (R-IN): 54,898,681 (38.9%) 194 EVs
Ms. Winona LaDuke (G-CA) / Mr. Ajamu Baraka (G-DC): 27,745,866 (19.7%) 93 EVs
Mr. Adam Kokesh (L-CA) / Fmr. Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA): 3,005,212 (2.1%) 0 EVs
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If Sanders ran as a Green in 2016:
Clinton/Kaine: 269 EVs (39.7%)
Trump/Pence: 266 EVs (39.7%)* Trump actually wins popular vote by <30K votes, House of Reps picks him as President.
Sander/Stein: 3 EVs (18.1%)
Johnson/Weld: 0 EVs (2.5%)
State Alterations from OTL: Clinton wins PA, GA, NC, MI, WI, and Trump's 1 elector in Maine; Sanders wins VT; Trump wins NY, CO

2016:
Sanders: 55.1% -- 453 EVs
Trump: 35.1% -- 79 EVs
McMullin: 0.6% -- 6 EVs
Stein: 2.4%
Changes from OTL 2016: Sanders takes MT, SD, KS, TX, AZ, MO, IA, WI, MI, IN, OH, PA, KY, NC, SC, GA, FL; Trump takes CO; McMullin takes UT


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on May 04, 2017, 08:32:20 AM
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Fmr. Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA): 50.3% (83,779,832) 466 EVs
Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY) / Gov. Mike Pence (R-IN): 35.8% (59,610,064) 66 EVs
Fmr. CIA Officer Evan McMullin (I-UT) / Ms. Mindy Finn (I-TX): 11.4% (19,013,771) 6 EVs
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Mr. Ajamu Baraka (G-DC): 2.5% (4,123,344) 0 EVs

I played as McMullin. Tried to rack up endorsements and win Utah, when I had pulled ahead in Utah I started at Arkansas (was 39% underwater but there were ~20% undecided). As prospects in Arkansas began to look dismal, I sent Finn to California to try to garner a few more votes on Election Day.

Utah
McMullin: 45.3%
Clinton: 37.8%
Trump: 16.9%

Arkansas
Clinton: 42.1%
Trump: 33.9%
McMullin: 20.4%
Stein: 3.7%

Clinton, Trump and McMullin had full ballot access. Stein did not have ballot access in Georgia, North Carolina, Missouri, Indiana, Connecticut, Vermont, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, Utah and Nevada (on the ballot in 35+DC).

Every Trump state was carried without 50+% except Oklahoma (52%). He carried Kentucky with as little as 44% of the vote.

Clinton carried most states with 44-52% with most Democratic strongholds in the mid to high 50s. Maryland and Vermont were carried with 62% of the vote and DC was carried with 85%.

McMullin was in double digits in most states (didn't campaign anywhere except UT, CA, AR). He hit as high as 16% in FL and 17% in CO.

Stein was at 2-3% in most states, almost hit 5% in MI.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on May 04, 2017, 05:49:09 PM
Has anyone ran a Presidential scenario with the POP vote feature?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on May 06, 2017, 07:26:39 PM
Mr. Donald Trump (R-NY) / Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) -- Republican Party Ticket
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) / Fmr. Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD) -- Progressive Party Ticket (newly formed party)
Fmr. Sec. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Gov. Mark Dayton (D-MN) -- Democratic Party Ticket

States Leaders before the election
Sanders States, lead size:
California 45%
Washington, D.C. 36%
Delaware 33%
Vermont 30%
Rhode Island 29%
Washington 26%
Connecticut 21%
Illinois 20%
New York 20%
New Jersey 19%
Pennsylvania 19%
Maryland 16%
West Virginia 16%
Wisconsin 14%
Maine 12%
Indiana 12%
Michigan 11%
Massachusetts 11%
Oregon 10%
Nevada 9%
Arizona 8%
Florida 8%
Minnesota 8%
Missouri 6%
Colorado 6%
North Carolina 5%
Montana 4%
South Carolina 3%
North Dakota 3%
Georgia 3%
Kentucky 2%
Hawaii 2%
Trump States, lead size:
Alabama 32%
Oklahoma 25%
Alaska 25%
Wyoming 24%
Virginia 21%
Arkansas 17%
Nebraska 16%
Texas 15%
Utah 11%
Tennessee 10%
Mississippi 9%
Idaho 8%
New Hampshire 7%
New Mexico 6%
Kansas 5%
South Dakota 4%
Ohio 2%
Clinton States, lead size:
None
Ties
Iowa
Louisiana

Projected States:
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Projected vote share:
Sanders: 43.7% (actual result: 47.2%)
Trump: 34% (actual result: 34.4%)
Clinton: 18.2% (actual result 18.4%)
Undecided: 4.1%

Projected Electoral:

Sanders: 377 (actual result: 374)
Trump: 147 (actual result: 164)
Clinton: 0 (actual result: 0)

Notable Results:
New York (Clinton/Trump's homestate)
Sanders: 45.8%
Trump: 27.3%
Clinton: 26.9%
Vermont (Bernie's homestate)
Sanders: 60%
Trump: 22.6%
Clinton: 17.4%
South Carolina (Graham's homestate / differed between actual and projected result)
Trump-Graham: 39.1%
Sanders-O'Malley: 38.9%
Clinton-Dayton: 21.9%
Maryland (O'Malley's homestate)
Sanders: 47.5%
Trump: 31.1%
Clinton: 21.3%
Minnesota (Dayton's homestate)
Sanders: 41%
Trump: 36.2%
Clinton: 22.8%
Iowa (tossup before Election Day)
Sanders: 40.4%
Trump: 35.1%
Clinton: 24.4%
Louisiana (tossup before Election Day)
Trump: 42.7%
Sanders: 40.5%
Clinton: 16.7%

Clinton came in second place in Nevada and DC and came in third everywhere else.
DC: Sanders won (67.7-28.4-3.9)
NV: Sanders won (40.6-30.1-29.2)

Before Election Day, Clinton's closest state (to winning) was Hawaii. She was in third place in a close race (was 6% behind the leader). She ended up in third place, 10.8% behind Sanders (1st place) in Hawaii.

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Dark Red/Blue = Projection was accurate, Medium Blue/Red = Result of states too close to call, Light Red = State that voted differently from projection


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Kamala on May 17, 2017, 08:10:08 PM
My first game. Late game Brownback scandal.

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Obama/Schweitzer - 382 - 55.4%
Brownback/Gingrich - 156 - 44.6%

With just a 1% swing from Brownback to Obama

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A 5% swing
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Obama - 500
Brownback - 38


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on June 10, 2017, 09:11:47 AM
Lincoln/Hamlin 1860

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303 EV, 152 to win
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) / Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) - 186 EV, 45.9% ✔
John Bell (CU-TN) / Edward Everett (CU-MA) - 70 EV, 13.7%
John C. Breckinridge (SD-KY) / Joseph Lane (SD-OR) - 38 EV, 15.5%
Stephen A. Douglas (D-IL) / Herschel V. Johnson (D-GA) - 9 EV, 24.9%

Got Delaware, and Bell did quite well in the South.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on June 10, 2017, 10:35:21 PM
Replaying Breckinridge/Lane 1860 (see #3138)

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303 EV, 152 to win
John C. Breckinridge (SD-KY) / Joseph Lane (SD-OR) - 154 EV, 26.4%
Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) / Hannibal Hamlin (R-ME) - 138 EV, 36.5%
Stephen A. Douglas (D-IL) / Herschel V. Johnson (D-GA) - 11 EV, 24.7%
John Bell (CU-TN) / Edward Everett (CU-MA) - 0 EV, 12.4%

Won the election outright while getting 10% fewer popular votes than Lincoln.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on June 11, 2017, 10:10:46 PM
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Senator Bernie Sanders (D-KB) / Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-AD) - 259/46.9%
Senator Ted Cruz (R-HS) / Ms. Carly Fiorina (R-CP) - 218/39.2%
Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY) / Secretary Chuck Hagel (I-PW) - 25/5%
Mr. Egg McMuffin (I-SH) / Ms. Mindy Finn (I-HS) - 20/1.9%
Dr. Jill Stein (G-AD) / Mr. Ajamu Baraka (G-LS) - 13/5.7%
Not taking %s into acc because that would be disastrous.
Might run this scenario with Ventura/Johnson.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on June 20, 2017, 05:00:33 AM
Replaying Bryan/Sewall 1896

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447 EV, 224 to win
William Jennings Bryan (D-NE) / Arthur Sewall (D-ME) - 238 EV, 52.2% ✔
William McKinley (R-OH) / Garret A. Hobart (R-NJ) - 209 EV, 45.5%
National Democrats - 0.9%
Prohibition - 1.3%

Got 8 more EV than last time.

Seems the viable way to win as the Great Commoner is not to be a commoner. How ironic.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: dercook on August 05, 2017, 06:18:44 AM
Re-replaying Bryan/Sewall 1896

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447 EV, 224 to win
William Jennings Bryan (D-NE) / Arthur Sewall (D-ME) - 230 EV, 52.3% ✔
William McKinley (R-OH) / Garret A. Hobart (R-NJ) - 217 EV, 45.3%
National Democrats - 0.9%
Prohibition - 1.6%

Was sweating as Indiana turned Rep at almost the last minute. Swung Michigan by little over a thousand votes -- wasn't in my plan at all.

Seems, again, trying to hold the west and south while winning the election is out of the question. It's a pain even when you only focus on NY and the midwest.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Don Vito Corleone on August 17, 2017, 03:20:14 PM
As Dewey in 1948:

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Thomas Dewey (R-NY) / Earl Warren (R-CA) - 481 EV, 64.7%
Strom Thurmond (SR-SC) / Fielding Wright (SR-MS) - 36 EV, 4%
Harry Truman (D-MO) / Alben Barkley (D-KY) - 12 EV, 28.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Don Vito Corleone on August 17, 2017, 10:03:02 PM
As Stevenson in 1952:

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Adlai Stevenson (D-IL) / Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) - 476 EV, 62.6%
Dwight Eisenhower (R-NY) / Richard Nixon (R-CA) - 54 EV, 37.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 18, 2017, 07:36:15 PM
Ran Cuomo/Gabbard vs. Trumpence and...
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Don Vito Corleone on August 18, 2017, 09:46:31 PM
Ran Cuomo/Gabbard vs. Trumpence and...
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Who were you playing as?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on August 18, 2017, 09:51:46 PM
Neither. I spectated as Stein.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on August 22, 2017, 07:33:10 PM
2004
President Bush faces a tough primary challenge after the beginning of the Iraq War. His main primary opponent, Colin Powell, nearly defeated him in a close race for the nomination. Senator John McCain was a close third and others ran as well. Bush passed up McCain or Powell to be his running mate and chose the unpopular sitting Vice President, Dick Cheney once again.
General Wesley Clark emerged onto the field as a distant second behind Howard Dean after a qualified but uncharismatic John Kerry announced he would not run. Many others entered the field. Hillary Clinton formed an exploratory committee but decided to back Carol Moseley Braun's candidacy instead. Braun would eventually place third. Wesley narrowly defeated Dean in Iowa and came within points in New Hampshire. He won Nevada solidly along with South Carolina. This created momentum, leading to Dean withdrawing after the first Super Tuesday.
Clark debates Bush and emerges as a narrow victor. In the VP's debate, McCain smokes Cheney. Clark seems to massively defeat Bush in the second debate. Bush's attack on Clark backfires and he is the clear loser in the third debate.
Al Gore's Revenge
[X] General Wesley Clark (D-IL) / Senator John McCain (R-AZ) 48.7% PV 319 EVs
President George Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) 49.4% PV 219 EVs
Mr. Ralph Nader (I-CT) / Mr. Matt Gonzalez (I-CA) 1.9% PV
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Both houses of Congress stay Republican. Colorado surprisingly goes 61.4% Republican. McCain's home state is narrowly lost by Clark (51-47). California was a surprisingly competitive state, tipping back and forth through the night. It was the deciding state. The vote shares in California were 48.4-46.7 (D+1.7). Delaware surprisingly goes Republican 53-45. Idaho is won by Clark (49.8-48.7). He wins the state by <8000 votes. The Republicans win Montana by 1.5% (less than 7000 votes).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on August 23, 2017, 06:56:06 AM
Don't have a map, I didn't think to save one at the time.

I ran the 1912 scenario mostly hands-off as the weakest Republican, turned off Progressive and Democratic and gave Socialist a bunch of momentum. It was a Socialist landslide but the interesting part was Debs (Soc) won unanimously in many states winning thousands, tens of thousands and on occasion over 100K votes to 0 Republicans. In some states Debs got similar figures while Republicans got 1, 3, 6, 7, 10, etc. votes. Only a handful of states were in the 50s (% for Soc or Rep). Most others were landslides in the upper 70s or 80s for Debs. Strangely in North Carolina 1 Socialist voted, 0 Republicans. (Yes, one vote for all 12 electors, the whole state). South Carolina was the inverse with 1 Republican and 0 Socialists.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on August 23, 2017, 06:48:17 PM
I ran the 2012 playing Romney and Obama. Romney and Obama both become presumptive nominees. Obama selects Biden as his running mate. Then Obama accepts an offer from Romney to become his running mate. Then I tried to tank Romney's campaign to get Johnson's % up. I've seen one major party nominee become the other's running mate and they are taken off the ballot but I think since I picked a running mate as Obama, the ticket didn't get wiped out. I imagine Biden campaigning alone after Obama fled the party.
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Louisiana was 49.8-48.4-1.8 (Romney-Johnson-Obama). Missouri was 37.2-34.2-28.6 (Obama-Johnson-Romney).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on August 25, 2017, 12:32:32 PM
✓ Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-VT) / Fmr. Gov. Brian Schweitzer (D-MT) 343 EVs 34.9%
Gov. John Kasich (R-OH) / Gov. Susana Martinez (R-NM) 145 EVs 32.9%
Mr. Donald Trump (I-NY) / Fmr. Spkr. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) 50 EVs 22%
Mr. Austin Petersen (L-MO) / Fmr. Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) 0 EVs 7.7%
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Arkansas won by 1.5%
Indiana is won by 387 votes (won by .008%)
Montana is won by 0.2% (1,970 votes)
Utah is won by 0.4% (7,299 votes)
Libertarians exceeded 5%, and as a result will receive full ballot access in 2020 and federal fund matching.
Donald Trump exceeds Ross Perot's stunning independent performance in 1992, in percentage and by winning EVs (not to mention more than one state; 6 in fact)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on August 26, 2017, 11:30:32 PM
Michelle Obama won in a contested convention against frontrunner Michael Bloomberg. Evan Bayh stood in second place, ahead of Obama, until the late May and June primaries. The huge Democratic field narrowed to Bloomberg-Bayh-Obama by April.
Asa Hutchinson was the dark horse for the Republican nomination. He overtook longtime frontrunner Mitt Romney in early May. In order to unify the base after a very divisive, long and crowded primary,
 Hutchinson chose Romney as his running mate.
Bernie Sanders decided not to contest the Democratic nomination. He instead ran for the Greens,
 who, beginning with Jill Stein, cleared the field for him.
Rand Paul, the frontrunner, was put over the top with Weld's delegates at the convention.
✓ Mrs. Michelle Obama (D-IL) / Fmr. Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) 308 EVs 44.9%
Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R-AR) / Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA) 227 EVs 38.4%
Sen. Bernie Sanders (G-VT) / Ms. Winona LaDuke (G-CA) 3 EVs 9.5%
Sen. Rand Paul (L-KY) / Fmr. Gov. Bill Weld (L-MA) 0 EVs 7.1%
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The closest state was South Carolina, it was R +0.9


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JoeyOCanada on August 31, 2017, 08:01:09 PM
2000 - If McCain won the nomination
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Al Gore (D-TN) / Joe Lieberman (D-CT) - 292 EVs, 51.8%
John McCain (R-AZ) / Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) - 242 EVs, 48.2%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: sentinel on September 16, 2017, 12:48:26 PM
Played through 2016 as Biden on hard with everyone on.

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Blue = Biden
Yellow = Clinton
Green = Warren
Red = Sanders

On May 9th 2016, the game was "out of memory" and crashed. The autosave featured failed around the Iowa primary so I lost yet another game. The game platform is really a POS. I was marginally trailing in delegates (handful) and poised to win California by 8 points.

Georgia, Alabama, NH were all won by other candidates (Webb for NH).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Canis on September 16, 2017, 02:48:10 PM
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Did the democratic primary with all candidates and played as biden
Warren won Nh and O'malley won Nevada
Biden is Red Clinton is blue and sanders is green
When everyone dropped out it became similar to the end of the 2016 republican primary where Kasich and Cruz split the anti Trump vote while Sanders split the anti Clinton vote in a lot of states
Clinton barely has enough delegates for a majority


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on September 17, 2017, 12:12:02 AM
Murphy/Gabbard - 48.3%, 311 EV (notably Utah and Georgia)
Trump/Pence - 44.2%, 227 EV
W.Perry/Coley - 3.2%
Honkala/Baraka - 2.9%
McMullin/Beck - 1.3%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: West_Midlander on September 19, 2017, 09:00:27 AM
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Gov Chris Christe (R-NJ)/ Gov Susana Martinez (R-NM) 366 evs
SOS Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA) 172 evs

probably no bridgegate ittl


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on September 19, 2017, 09:51:23 PM
2012 - President Obama/Vice President Biden vs. Gov. Sarah Palin/Sen. Marco Rubio

http://www.270towin.com/maps/K2Wrk

Congress picks Palin/Rubio despite Republicans being outnumbered at the time.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on September 26, 2017, 12:08:47 PM
United States presidential election, 2016

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(✓) Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY) / Governor Mike Pence (R-IN): ≈71 million votes, 286 EV
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA):  ≈65 million votes, 252 EV

Played as Hillary Clinton and tried to replicate her RL strategy of running exclusively on character issues and highlighting Trump's lack of experience and integrity.  Decided early to go with an "Eastern Strategy" and put most early resources into FL, NC and PA.  I fell behind in NV pretty early, so I gave up on fighting for it - but Colorado and then New Mexico followed (Johnson pulled over 18% of the NM vote on election day).  I started with pretty consistent leads in the Midwest; WI was the first to go, followed by OH and WI - but I held on in MI until the last week, when Trump got a massive momentum swing in the state.  About 2 or 3 weeks until election day, Trump surged in the Northeast and I had to divert a lot of resources there - he started leading in states like NJ and CT, and RI and DE became competitive - even New York was "undecided" for a while.  The fact that I held most of these Northeast states feels like an accomplishment after how hard I worked to win those states back, and it was almost enough to pull it across the finish line in the end.  Despite losing the popular vote by some 6 million, I came surprisingly close in the electoral college - PA and NC were somewhat comfortable wins, and while VA and FL were very close they were big wins for the campaign.  Performance in the West and Midwest was abysmal, however, IL ended up being pretty close, and WI and MN weren't even competitive.  I got stomped in the West, with the narrowest of my losses there coming in CO, but Oregon was a complete surprise - I ended up losing it by less than 2,000 votes.   


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on November 15, 2017, 02:40:26 AM
Presidential Election of 2004
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Clark/Edwards 50.9% 62,929,091 Votes 318 Electoral Votes
Bush/Frist 48.2% 59,587,096 Votes 220 Electoral Votes
Nadar/Gonzalez 1.0% 1,217,279 0 Electoral Votes

I played as Clark and started in the primaries. I was able to get a pretty good lead in the primary after Iowa, though they didn't officially wrap up until the convention since Dean wouldn't drop out. The campaign was close throughout, with the final polls only having me up 1.7% and the Electoral Vote split 249 for me and 240 for Bush, with South Carolina, Ohio, and Washington state too close to call. On election night the biggest surprises were South Carolina and Arkansas, which was leaning Bush. I carried them by 6 and 7 points respectively. Overall super fun game, and my first win on the new President Infinity, though I have played President Forever quite a bit. I will say they could work on the wild swings, Iowa and New Hampshire I guess swung crazily to the Democrats because of our competitive primary, and never left, which they should address. Here's a county map too since I have far too much time on my hands.
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on November 25, 2017, 10:39:38 PM
2016 Democratic Primaries
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Bernie Sanders 51.0% 15,711,511 Votes 2441 Delegates
Hillary Clinton 41.3% 12,717,490 Votes 2080 Delegates
Martin O'Malley 7.7% 2,387,621 Votes 244 Delegates

The popular vote spread belies the closeness of the race throughout, as I didn't take the lead in the national polls until after the Acela primaries. There were a few times where I thought that Hillary had it, particularly after she took Nevada. I only took South Carolina by 7 over O'Malley, but that let me go into Super Tuesday with momentum. As you can see I severely under performed on the Great Plains compared to irl, but I made up for it in the South and Midwest. I thought the Democrats were going to have a contested convention until the June 6th primaries, when I took California with over 70% and broke past the delegate majority mark. I picked Klobuchar as my running mate. The Republican primary was a mess as usual and they had something like 11 rounds of voting at their convention with the final ticket being Cruz/Bachmann. The other tickets were Johnson/Ventura and Stein/Baraka. I'll post the general election map and summary once it wraps up.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YPestis25 on November 26, 2017, 02:42:53 AM
2016 Presidential Election
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Bernie Sanders/Amy Klobuchar 52.1% 76,513,281 Votes 368 Electoral Votes
Ted Cruz/Michele Bachmann 44.3% 65,075,946 Votes 170 Electoral Votes
Gary Johnson/Jesse Ventura 2.5% 3,692,121 Votes 0 Electoral Votes
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka 1.0% 1,520,329 Votes 0 Electoral Votes
Much like the primaries this race was close right to the end when I pulled away. For the first few weeks of the general election, Cruz and I traded narrow leads back and forth, though by the last week I had a nearly four point lead in the polls. I had quite a bit of cash left at the end, so I was able to ad blitz most of the competitive states, plus the Upper Plains. The ad blitz was likely the main reason I over-performed the polls on Election Day. I won all the debates, and even nabbed a few typically Republican endorsements like the NRA which helped quite a bit. As a plus, I'm happy with the ascetically pleasing map.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on December 10, 2017, 07:14:03 PM
2020 Presidential Election

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Kristen Gillibrand/Steve Bullock: 52%, 406 EV
Donald Trump/Mike Pence: 35.8%, 108 EV
John Kasich/John Hickenlooper: 10.1%, 24 EV
Adam Kokesh/Larry Sharpe: 1.4%, 0 EV
Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka: 0.6%, 0 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Karpatsky on December 13, 2017, 04:27:56 PM
Do you all know if there's a good 2020 scenario for President Forever 2008+Primaries? I haven't been willing to shell out for Infinity yet since they removed the demo.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Cold War Liberal on December 25, 2017, 11:32:31 PM
The "Draft Teddy" movement at the 1968 DNC succeeds after EMK allows it and Eugene McCarthy releases his delegates to him. He's nominated at age 36 due to sympathy for him after RFK's assassination. George McGovern is nominated for VP.

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Fmr. Vice President Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Gov. Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 32,922,886, 42.9%, 308 EVs
Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-MA)/Sen. George McGovern (D-SD): 33,327,400, 43.4%, 185 EVs
Fmr. Gov. George Wallace (D-AL)/Ret. Gen. Curtis LeMay (R-CA): 10,558,218, 13.7%, 45 EVs

EMK Al Gored this (lost EC while winning the pop. vote by 0.5%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: BippyTheGuy on January 07, 2018, 01:37:29 AM
This was a weird one.

2016. Computer on hard. Playing as Independent Donald Trump for the lolz.

The Democratic primary was pretty funny to watch. It was a hilariously closely divided race between Hillary, Biden, O'Malley, and Cuomo the whole way. After the last primary Cuomo and Biden dropped out and endorsed O'Malley.



Businessman Donald Trump (I-NY)/ Former Gov. Sarah Palin (R-AK)-  25.5%; 241 EV
Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ)/ Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)- 27.8%; 162 EV
Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/ Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA)- 26.5%; 135 EV
Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/ Sec. Def. Chuck Hagel (R-NE)- 10.6%; 0 EV
Former Gov. Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Former Gov. Jesse Ventura (L-MN)- 5.2%; 0EV
Dr. Jill Stein (G-MA) / Ms. Cheri Honkala (G-PA)- 4.5%; 0 EV

The race was thrown to the Republican House which elected Chris Christie. It's sort of a shame the game doesn't say who the Democratic Senate picked as VP since they would only have a choice between Sarah Palin and Mike Lee.
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jon698 on February 07, 2018, 10:43:55 AM
This is what I got when I ran as Theodore Roosevelt Jr. in 1936 as a Republican against FDR.

Theodore Roosevelt Jr. -  19,252,563 63.9%; 464 EV
Franklin D. Roosevelt - 10,199,565 33.9%; 67 EV
William Lemke - 674,327 2.2%; 0 EV

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Jon698 on February 07, 2018, 10:57:47 AM
I also won every state in 1872 but that was probably due to the fact that I was an idiot and accidentally kept the Liberal Republicans off when I was deciding who to play as.

John Quincy Adams II/Samuel Tilden - 52,651,682 90.9% 367 EV
Ulysses S. Grant/Henry Wilson - 5,280,025 9.1% 0 EV

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on February 07, 2018, 11:05:55 AM
I was playing 2000 as Lamar Alexander whom wins the Iowa and New Hampshire Primaries as well as getting a large majority of the states in Super Tuesday. It was very close in several states because of Donald Trump running as a reform candidate with Jesse Ventura but because of them, I was able to win against Gore in a landslide.

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Fmr SOE Lamar Alexander/Fmr Speaker Newt Gingrich: 397/45.3%
VP Al Gore/Sen. Joe Lieberman: 141/39.3%
Mr. Donald J. Trump/Gov. Jesse Ventura: 0/15.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Don Vito Corleone on February 18, 2018, 12:06:40 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on February 18, 2018, 08:21:14 PM
2016 -

Jon Huntsman/Marco Rubio - 195 EV, 45%
Michelle Obama/Julian Castro - 343 EV, 50.9%
Darryl W. Perry/Austin Petersen - 3%
Kent Mesplay/Bill Kreml - 1.1%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on February 24, 2018, 01:40:49 PM
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Scenario: (Played as Trump - saved up $$$ and did a late ad blitz that was much more favorable than expected) Recordings are leaked right before the election that reveals Bill and Hillary Clinton working with Russian spies to rig the results, promising that if she wins they will enact favorable policies for Russia. Clinton stays quiet, refusing to drop out - hardcore Democrats still support in with hopes she drops out/impeached/ and Kaine takes over, but the vast majority of independents and moderate Democrats break with Trump.

Donald Trump/Jan Brewer: 73.6% Popular Vote, 535 Electoral Votes
Crooked Hillary Clinton/Xavier Becerra: 26.4%, 3 Electoral Votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: HenryWallaceVP on February 27, 2018, 09:37:42 PM
In a similar but older game, President Elect 1988 (https://archive.org/details/msdos_President_Elect_-_1988_Edition_1987), I won as Kennedy in 1960 with this map, although I lost the popular vote:

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John F. Kennedy: 313 EV/49.4%
Richard Nixon: 224 EV/50.6%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President of the civil service full of trans activists on March 06, 2018, 01:30:54 PM
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Scenario: (Played as Trump - saved up $$$ and did a late ad blitz that was much more favorable than expected) Recordings are leaked right before the election that reveals Bill and Hillary Clinton working with Russian spies to rig the results, promising that if she wins they will enact favorable policies for Russia. Clinton stays quiet, refusing to drop out - hardcore Democrats still support in with hopes she drops out/impeached/ and Kaine takes over, but the vast majority of independents and moderate Democrats break with Trump.

Donald Trump/Jan Brewer: 73.6% Popular Vote, 535 Electoral Votes
Crooked Hillary Clinton/Xavier Becerra: 26.4%, 3 Electoral Votes

Wait, so Crooked Hillary quits, then Becerra appoints Kaine and quits?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on March 06, 2018, 02:27:05 PM
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Scenario: (Played as Trump - saved up $$$ and did a late ad blitz that was much more favorable than expected) Recordings are leaked right before the election that reveals Bill and Hillary Clinton working with Russian spies to rig the results, promising that if she wins they will enact favorable policies for Russia. Clinton stays quiet, refusing to drop out - hardcore Democrats still support in with hopes she drops out/impeached/ and Kaine takes over, but the vast majority of independents and moderate Democrats break with Trump.

Donald Trump/Jan Brewer: 73.6% Popular Vote, 535 Electoral Votes
Crooked Hillary Clinton/Xavier Becerra: 26.4%, 3 Electoral Votes

Wait, so Crooked Hillary quits, then Becerra appoints Kaine and quits?
No, i forgot that Kaine wasn’t chosen in this scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DabbingSanta on March 07, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
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Hubert H. Humphrey (Dem) - 20,054,968 47.8%; 327 EV  ✓
George C. Wallace (Rep/AIP)-  21,890,159 52.2% 211 EV


Goldwater Republicans managed to take over the 1968 RNC convention and nominate Wallace, also nominee of the AIP.

Wallace was trailing by double digits until a scandal broke in the final 48 hours. Despite losing, he managed to win the popular vote and carry states outside the south, beating all expectations.

The closest state was Michigan, which was decided by under 1,200 votes.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: terp40hitch on March 07, 2018, 09:19:24 PM
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Hubert H. Humphrey (Dem) - 20,054,968 47.8%; 327 EV  ✓
George C. Wallace (Rep/AIP)-  21,890,159 52.2% 211 EV


Goldwater Republicans managed to take over the 1968 RNC convention and nominate Wallace, also nominee of the AIP.

Wallace was trailing by double digits until a scandal broke in the final 48 hours. Despite losing, he managed to win the popular vote and carry states outside the south, beating all expectations.

The closest state was Michigan, which was decided by under 1,200 votes.


George Wallace is a democrat so this would have never happened


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DabbingSanta on March 07, 2018, 09:43:06 PM
There was a huge fissure in the southern base, so much so Goldwater carried several states in 1964. In this scenario, Wallace and other pro segregation Dems switch parties as the national Dems become more about civil rights and left wing ideology.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Deblano on March 12, 2018, 02:31:45 PM
2016

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Gov. Scott Walker (R-WI)/ Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK): 321 EV, 50.3%
Gov. Martin O'Malley (D-MD)/ Sec. Tom Vilsack (D-IA): 217 EV, 48.4%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Grassroots on May 10, 2018, 05:23:22 PM
Just got the 2008 demo, it seems really good. The full version is pretty expensive however, $19.00.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Karpatsky on May 28, 2018, 08:21:11 AM
Played Debs 1912 for fun, trying to get the 15% to get into the debates. Was at 14% and change on the last day, not leading in a single state, and was shocked to be faced with this on election day:

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Turns out high momentum on the last day can net you basically 100% of undecideds, even if you aren't a really popular party in the first place.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Grassroots on May 28, 2018, 07:31:43 PM
Has anyone else had a problem on president forever 2008 where whenever you open the game, it makes you enter your confirmation code and email? I'm getting this problem and its incredibly annoying.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: terp40hitch on May 28, 2018, 08:36:01 PM
Just got the 2008 demo, it seems really good. The full version is pretty expensive however, $19.00.
I just got the Demo too!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Devout Centrist on June 03, 2018, 07:30:17 PM
Beta testing a 1992 scenario. Played as Clinton. RIP Bush

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: President Punxsutawney Phil on June 03, 2018, 07:32:41 PM
Beta testing a 1992 scenario. Played as Clinton. RIP Bush

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:'D what a beautiful big Atlas red landslide!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 03, 2018, 08:04:12 PM
It is way too easy to landslide Bush in this scenario.  I might make a few adjustments for that.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 10, 2018, 02:00:26 PM
Coming from behind in the Electoral College (while leading in the popular vote), the Midwest-based Harkin/Kerrey ticket defeats Bush/Quayle in a landslide, ushering in a new era of populist politics (and effectively killing DLC influence!).

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Closest state was Michigan (45% - 44.9% - 10.1%).

Bush came third in Alaska and California.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on June 13, 2018, 07:02:58 PM
1992 - Bush reelected over Clinton/Gore

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Closest state was Missouri (39.7% - 39.6%)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DabbingSanta on June 17, 2018, 01:22:38 PM
What would happen if the Democrats and Republicans didn't exist? o_o

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Johnson/Weld (Libertarian) 429 electoral votes and 55.7% popular vote
Stein/Baraka (Green) 103 electoral votes and 41.6% popular vote
McMullin/Finn (Independent) 6 electoral votes and 0.6% popular votes
Bloomberg/Hagel (Independent) 0 electoral votes and 2.1% popular vote

A few things hard to explain:

- Greens with over 60% of the vote in Texas
- Kentucky is the closest state, with both Greens and Libertarians at 47% popular vote
- Libertarians have over 70% of the vote in neighboring Indiana, Tennessee
- Libertarians have over 60% of the vote in Maryland, New Jersey
- other Northeastern states with large cities vote Green (PA with Philly, NY with New York, DC with Washington) or have a much closer margin (MA with Boston)
- Virginia goes Green? Richmond, Hampton Roads, DC suburbs...

Overall a fun experiment, tho


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DabbingSanta on June 17, 2018, 07:23:28 PM
Managed to get 5.7% of the vote as Bloomberg. Didn't win any states. Trump won the game in an unrealistic landslide, including California. o_o

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light shade = under 5% of the vote
medium shade = 5-10% of the vote
dark shade = over 10% of the vote.

Best states were AZ, CA, DC, and VA.



Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Karpatsky on July 13, 2018, 08:19:55 AM
Do you all know how to post scenarios on the site? I've been tinkering with a Star Wars one for a while and would like to release it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Continential on July 15, 2018, 10:19:58 AM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on July 19, 2018, 08:15:45 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Joe Biden 2024 on July 20, 2018, 10:44:51 AM
Do you all know how to post scenarios on the site? I've been tinkering with a Star Wars one for a while and would like to release it.

If you can post it, I'd love to play it sometime.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Karpatsky on July 22, 2018, 05:00:25 AM
Do you all know how to post scenarios on the site? I've been tinkering with a Star Wars one for a while and would like to release it.

If you can post it, I'd love to play it sometime.

I never figured out how to post it, but here it is for you and anyone else who sees it here:  http://www.mediafire.com/file/zoxq2d1u55rxrl9/Galactic%20Republic.rar

Here's a photo album: https://imgur.com/a/o65DQpT


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Devout Centrist on July 24, 2018, 11:45:18 PM
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Got this result using the unadjusted 2017 scenario


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: WestVegeta on September 07, 2018, 01:23:57 PM
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Someone's Custom 2020 Scenario

Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH)/Fmr. Gov. Deval Patrick (D-MA): 271 EVs, 46.4% PV
Pres. Donald Trump (R-NY)/Vice Pres. Mike Pence (R-IN): 232 EVs, 37.8% PV
Fmr. Gov. John Kasich (I-OH)/Fmr. Amb. Jon Huntsman (I-UT): 24 EVs, 11.4% PV
Mr. Adam Kokesh (L-CA)/Fmr. Mayor Jim Gray (L-KY): 11 EVs, 3.7% PV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: WestVegeta on September 20, 2018, 12:40:48 AM
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An Absolutely Wack 1992

Pres. George Bush (R-TX)/Vice Pres. Dan Quayle (R-IN): 218 EVs, 33.1% PV
Businessman Ross Perot (I-TX)/Adm. James Stockdale (I-VA): 178 EVs, 34.9% PV
Gov. Douglas Wilder (D-VA)/Sen. Tom Harkin (D-IA): 142 EVs, 31.8% PV

The election was thrown to the House, which never produced a winner. As such, an unprecedented recall has to be conducted. Seriously.

The only thing I can think of that could produce this irl is if Perot picked up some of Buchanan's strategists, who advised him to lean a little more socially conservative, and to play up his protectionist angle. That, coupled with Wilder being a known firebrand and, well, some parts of the country just weren't ready, and you've got Perot chipping into a coalition of Blue Collar ancestral Democrats who'd later vote for Trump OTL, and paleocons/social conservatives who felt uncomfortable with Bush's moderatism.

(also, how do you import the results to atlas?)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: JoeyOCanada on September 20, 2018, 03:14:05 PM
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I was "playing" as Bloomberg but simply simmed from the primaries through the general. Interesting result.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on November 01, 2018, 12:05:27 AM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on November 02, 2018, 01:00:14 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on November 03, 2018, 05:24:55 PM
Lost as Teddy. Taft elected due to Congress.

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on December 17, 2018, 09:08:43 PM
Plugging this here: now you can play my second PI scenario, the 2018 Texas Senate election. (http://campaigns.270soft.com/2018/12/17/texas-2018-senate/)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on December 18, 2018, 01:58:20 PM
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Howard Dean (D-VT)/Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) - 53.8% and 339 EV
George W. Bush (R-TX)/John McCain (R-AZ) - 43.9% and 199 EV
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Matt Gonzalez (I-CA) - 2.3% and 0 EV

Bush got Blanched


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: UWS on December 19, 2018, 11:44:44 PM
I ran as Marco Rubio at the hard computer difficulty in the 2016 presidential election, faced Hillary Clinton in the general election and won 331-207. Here are the exact results :

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Marco Rubio (R-FL)/John Kasich (R-OH) : 331 electoral votes, 84 118 442 votes and 51.1 % of the vote
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Martin O'Malley (D-MD) : 207 electoral votes, 80 651 381 votes and 48.9 % of the vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on December 22, 2018, 09:00:36 PM
1952

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Eleanor Roosevelt (Democratic): 332 electoral votes - 52.1% - 42,427,081 votes
Dwight D. Eisenhower (Republican): 198 electoral votes - 47.3% - 37,575,424 votes
Vincent Hallinan (Progressive): 0 electoral votes - 0.6% - 494,991 votes


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Joe Biden 2024 on December 31, 2018, 12:32:30 PM
From an edited version of the 2008 scenario:

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Senator Russ Feingold (D-WI)/Former Senator Sam Nunn (D-GA): 354 EVs, 55.1%-74,123,577
Former Senator George Allen (R-VA)/Former Congressman Rob Portman (R-OH): 184 EVs, 43.9%-58.994,248


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on January 07, 2019, 08:11:43 PM
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George Bush / Dick Cheney - 66.807,255 - 41.8% -  286 electoral votes
Al Gore / Joe Lieberman - 91,692,607 - 57.4% - 252 electoral votes
Ralph Nader / Winona Laduke - 1,123,574 - 0.7%
Pat Buchanan / Forgot - 27,735 - 0%


errrrm wut


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on January 07, 2019, 08:38:08 PM
I haven't played around with the new version yet (have a PC but mostly use my mac laptop), but it seems the favorability update to PI is producing wonky results. Seems to be a much more robust engine though.

I have a much older version, this is like 9 months old


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on January 09, 2019, 01:59:57 AM
Just published my third scenario: the 2017 Alabama Senate election. (http://campaigns.270soft.com/2019/01/09/alabama-2017-senate-special/)

You can play either as Doug Jones on the Democrat side or one of the three serious Republicans that ran: Luther Strange, Mo Brooks, and of course, Roy Moore.  Scandals apply.

No primaries in this version, but I'll create one for the Republicans if enough people like the scenario.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: UWS on January 13, 2019, 03:53:56 PM
I just ran as John McCain in the 2008 election and here are the results of this close race :

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John McCain/Mitt Romney : 314 electoral votes, 66 918 234 votes and 50.1 % of the vote
Barack Obama/Kathleen Sebelius : 224 electoral votes, 66 749 154 and 49.9 % of the vote


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: DabbingSanta on January 13, 2019, 10:01:14 PM
I just ran as John McCain in the 2008 election and here are the results of this close race :

John McCain/Mitt Romney : 314 electoral votes, 66 918 234 votes and 50.1 % of the vote
Barack Obama/Kathleen Sebelius : 224 electoral votes, 66 749 154 and 49.9 % of the vote[/center]

Super messed up. I've been having the same troubles with this game. Someone needs to make a new one!


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: UWS on January 14, 2019, 12:59:07 AM
I just ran as John McCain in the 2008 election and here are the results of this close race :

John McCain/Mitt Romney : 314 electoral votes, 66 918 234 votes and 50.1 % of the vote
Barack Obama/Kathleen Sebelius : 224 electoral votes, 66 749 154 and 49.9 % of the vote[/center]

Super messed up. I've been having the same troubles with this game. Someone needs to make a new one!

The moreover that I won the exact same 3 states that handed victory to Trump in 2016 (Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania) because had Obama flipped these three states, he would have narrowly won the election 272-266, which would have almost been the same electoral vote count that Bush won over Gore in 2000 (271-267).


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: #TheShadowyAbyss on January 22, 2019, 11:39:22 PM
RECORD HIGH TURNOUT, GABBARD PRESIDENT ELECT!

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: The world will shine with light in our nightmare on February 03, 2019, 08:33:34 PM
1992 as Gore/Clinton again.  First the primaries:

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Harkin barely holds Iowa against Kerrey.

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Buchanan randomly wins >60% over Bush in the California primary - his only primary win.

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And Gore wins Wyoming by double digits - knocking Bush to third place while losing New Jersey.  Seems legit.

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The scenario might not work for people who have the newest version of PI.  I've been told on Discord that it crashes after Iowa.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on February 06, 2019, 09:57:23 PM
2020 -

President Trump/Vice President Pence - 273 EV - 42.1%

Mayor Pete Buttigieg/Senator Kyrsten Sinema - 265 EV - 44.7%

Howard Schultz/Former Governor John Kasich - 0 EV - 6.8%

Ben Shapiro/Former Governor Bill Weld - 0 EV - 4.7%

Dr. Jill Stein/Ajamu Baraka - 0 EV - 1.8%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on February 06, 2019, 10:07:57 PM
2008 -

Senator John Edwards/Senator Barack Obama - 460 EV - 55.3%

Senator Bill Frist/Former Governor Mitt Romney - 78 EV -  41.7%


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on February 13, 2019, 12:35:49 PM
2004
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Joe Biden (D-DE)/Barack Obama (D-IL): 312 - 49.3% - 67,026,763
George W. Bush (R-TX)/Bill Frist (R-TN): 226 - 49.0% - 66,611,180
Ralph Nader (I-CT)/Peter Camejo (I-CA): 0 - 1.7% - 2,335,386

Battleground states:
Maine (Bush+0.4)
North Dakota (Biden+0.7)
Virginia (Bush+1.1)
South Carolina (Biden+1.3)
Maryland (Biden+1.7)
Wisconsin (Biden+2.5)
Connecticut (Biden+2.6)
Florida (Bush+3)
Oregon (Biden+3)
Washington (Biden+3.1)
Minnesota (Biden +3.3)
Ohio (Biden+3.7)
Michigan (Biden+4.6)


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Joe Biden 2024 on March 01, 2019, 07:02:58 PM
2004: A Battle of Generals

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Secretary of State Colin Powell (R-NY)/Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): 370 EVs, 53.3%-72,400,820
General Wesley Clark (D-AR)/Former Senator Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL): 168 EVs, 45.4%-61,601,110


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Continential on March 30, 2019, 02:25:08 PM
2010: The Next Wallace!

60.8% George Wallace Jr. 928,665
39.2% Artur Davis 598,203

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: YourLocalKiwiGay on April 18, 2019, 06:49:28 PM
Jones Was 20% behind at the start of the Campaign

Even after allegations broke our Jones was still behind by 5% in the polls

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But when election night came around

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I legit have no idea how this happened this is the biggest turnaround in any game I've ever played


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Continential on April 23, 2019, 06:03:28 PM
Does anyone know where I could buy the game online? Link?
https://270soft.com/


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on July 17, 2019, 09:35:13 PM
2016 -

Former Governor Sarah Palin/Businessman Donald J. Trump (R) - 283 EV, 46.8%

First Lady Michelle Obama/New York Governor Andrew Cuomo (D) - 255 EV, 49.4%







Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Del Tachi on September 25, 2019, 07:20:25 PM
First ever time I got a 269-269 tie, I played as Kerry/Richardson:

United States presidential election, 2004
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President George W. Bush (R-TX) / Vice President Dick Cheney (R-WY) - 269 EV, 49.7% (61.1 million votes)
Senator John F. Kerry (D-MA) / Governor Bill Richardson (D-NM) - 269 EV, 48.2% (59.2 million votes)
Activist Ralph Nader (I-CT) / Activist Peter Camejo (I-CA) - 0 EV, 2.1% (2.6 million votes)

Closest states were Nevada (Kerry won by 1,010 votes), Florida (Bush won by 40,000 votes) and Ohio (Bush won by 30,000 votes).

I had initially put most campaign resources into Virginia, Florida, Colorado, Nevada and Arizona (trying to bring about the Obama coalition four-years early).  Bush led consistently in AZ and VA going into the end of September, so I shifted those resources to the more traditionally competitive states of Iowa and Ohio.  Almost pulled it off, but he House elected Bush the winner.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GoTfan on September 26, 2019, 01:11:10 AM
This newest update feels like I'm being cheated. I bought this game outright, now I have to pay for a subscription?


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Atlas Has Shrugged on September 26, 2019, 05:23:58 PM
This newest update feels like I'm being cheated. I bought this game outright, now I have to pay for a subscription?
Lame.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Continential on September 26, 2019, 06:55:10 PM
This newest update feels like I'm being cheated. I bought this game outright, now I have to pay for a subscription?
Lame.
In their fourm, the creator told everyone that he had to get more money.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: LAKISYLVANIA on October 30, 2019, 11:13:03 AM
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Lost narrowly with Warren in a brokered convention against Klobuchar :( when i was Warren

Now playing as Klobuchar against Trump. Trump has a lead of +3 in the PV and the EV projected vote is 283-235, so will have a lot of work to do. Losing Florida currently by 20 (LOL). TITANIUM R.

Closest states:
WI - 0
NM +1
PA -1
MI +1
NH -2
ME -4
CO +5
NV +5
NJ +7
DE +7
OH -8
MN -9
MD +10
IA -10
VA +11
RI +13
TX -13
OR +13
NC -13
WA +15


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: LAKISYLVANIA on October 30, 2019, 03:00:21 PM
LOL Klobuchar - Gabbard lost against Trump - Haley. My game crashes, but I was losing. Especially FL, IA and OH were out of reach from the beginning (now almost -26 in IA behind) and the rust belt states were tilt / lean R. Pff, what a hard game. VA, NV and CO looked like they were in the pocket.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Huey Long is a Republican on November 01, 2019, 01:36:05 PM
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Lincoln's son obliterates former CSA VP by 11.8 %, News at 11.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: LAKISYLVANIA on November 14, 2019, 10:14:32 AM
Won the primaries with Buttigieg and lost one state to Biden: North Carolina

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Then went on... to

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lose narrowly the election.

Battleground states:
Wisconsin D+4,4
Michigan D+4
Minnesota D+1,6
Colorado D+0,7
Pennsyllvania D+0,4
Nevada R+1,2
New Hampshire R+1,2
Maine R+1,4


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Joe Biden 2024 on January 27, 2020, 10:29:23 PM
I was going to post the map and numbers, but I accidently closed out of the game before I could finish.

Anyway, did 1972 as Nixon, and other than selecting Agnew as VP, did absolutely nothing. The Democratic primaries were just Humphrey, Muskie, McGovern, and Wallace. Humphrey easily defeated the other three and chose Walter Fauntroy as his running mate.

Come Election Day, I thought I might win despite doing nothing. I lost 285-253, but won the popular vote 53-47. I have no idea how that happened.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Comrade Funk on March 22, 2020, 02:08:30 PM
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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Brother Jonathan on June 05, 2020, 09:05:16 PM
My absolutely abysmal run as Lyndon Johnson in 1968. It's my first time playing, so I am still learning.

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Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (R)- 44.5%, 346 EVs
Lyndon Johnson/Robert F. Kennedy (D)- 41.7%, 147 EVs
George Wallace/Curtis Lemay (AI)- 13.8%, 45 EVs


Five Closest States

Texas: .2%
Washington: .2%
Arkansas: .3%
Pennsylvania: .6%
Maryland: 1.6%

I basically lost hope of winning when Carl Albert and Carl Vinson endorsed Nixon and I released how poorly I had managed things.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 23, 2020, 03:28:51 PM
The new Beta version is finally starting to let me finish from start to end (when beginning in primaries). Got through this time with Trump in 2020 - the beta version becomes very unrealistically easy if you start in a primary basically unchallenged. I focused early on meddling and dividing the Democrats to force a contested convention - it was a three way race between Mayor Pete, Beto and Warren. In the GE, Trump train's spinning became almost unstoppable in the final weeks, as well as half a billion warchest built up. The initial goal was to see if I could win DC as a Republican - it was the closest, with TRUMP winning 52-44.

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President Donald Trump/Vice President Mike Pence: 63.5% PV, 538 EV
Mayor Pete Buttigieg/Former Georgia Speaker Stacey Abrams: 34%, 0 EV
Ian Schlakman/His VP: 2.5% PV

Gonna try the same thing with Biden next, though it will be harder since it will be tough to divide the GOP primary like you can for Democrats.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 24, 2020, 10:11:54 PM
I was actually able to bring TRUMP down quite a bit playing as Biden, I had Romney, Kasich and Cruz run against him in the primary and Romney and Kasich both won quite a few states. TRUMP ultimately prevailed but his warchest was depleted. I started out the GE with an 11 point lead that gradually grew. Absolutely slammed him in the final week with ads and surrogate campaigning, I had been building up a warchest of surrogates from the getgo. Wasn't able to get the 538 sadly, South Carolina was the weird holdout. I think it was an effect of a very competitive primary happening there, so TRUMP was very organized from the start. Up until the last couple days, a lot of states were tossups - at one point there were 20 states within 4 points, it was much more difficult to go for the sweep with Biden. The margins and coloring would have been more fun with a third party but I forgot to checkmark it.

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Former VP Joe Biden/Senator Kamala Harris: 61.2%, 529 EV
President Donald Trump/Vice President Mike Pence: 38.8% PV, 9 EV


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alben Barkley on December 21, 2020, 06:57:43 PM
Won 2004 as Kerry while losing the popular vote.

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Won Ohio, and thus the election, by literally 1 vote according to the game. Not the first time I've won or lost a state by exactly 1 vote; I imagine that the game just does a coin flip if the results are too close and gives the state to the winner by 1 vote. Still, if anything even close to that happened in reality, it would have course been reverse 2000 -- this time the Democrat won the electoral college thanks to an extremely slim margin in one large state while losing the popular vote. And this time I'm sure the GOP would be calling for recounts. Would be quite ironic if the Supreme Court shut them down citing their own precedent from Bush v. Gore. Also might have led to the end of the Electoral College.

I also held Iowa and New Mexico, unlike the real Kerry, while stlil flipping New Hampshire and losing the PV by less, so a significantly better performance overall. I even only lost Florida by like 0.4 points instead of the 5 the real Kerry lost. I chose Hillary as my running mate; I had her campaign in Arkansas and Missouri quite a bit, but still narrowly lost those states.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Alben Barkley on December 21, 2020, 07:05:26 PM
The new Beta version is finally starting to let me finish from start to end (when beginning in primaries). Got through this time with Trump in 2020 - the beta version becomes very unrealistically easy if you start in a primary basically unchallenged. I focused early on meddling and dividing the Democrats to force a contested convention - it was a three way race between Mayor Pete, Beto and Warren. In the GE, Trump train's spinning became almost unstoppable in the final weeks, as well as half a billion warchest built up. The initial goal was to see if I could win DC as a Republican - it was the closest, with TRUMP winning 52-44.

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President Donald Trump/Vice President Mike Pence: 63.5% PV, 538 EV
Mayor Pete Buttigieg/Former Georgia Speaker Stacey Abrams: 34%, 0 EV
Ian Schlakman/His VP: 2.5% PV

Gonna try the same thing with Biden next, though it will be harder since it will be tough to divide the GOP primary like you can for Democrats.

I don't usually like playing the primaries for this reason; the game becomes way too easy way too fast. Especially if you are effectively unchallenged or are able to wrap up the nomination early while the other party's primaries are still going. Then you can spend all your time and resources preparing for the general and blasting the likely nominee of the other side while they still have to defend themselves from their primary challengers. I played as Clinton in a 1996 scenario once starting with the primaries, but never ended up finishing it because by the time the primaries were over, I had a huge lead over Dole in all 50 states and it was just boring.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on March 14, 2021, 05:11:11 PM
Interesting results I got from a NYC 2021 Mayoral I'm making:

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Continential on March 17, 2021, 07:26:18 PM
Interesting results I got from a NYC 2021 Mayoral I'm making:

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It's a shame that there isn't RCV in President Infinity (as far as I know) but I can't wait to play this if you are releasing this.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on March 17, 2021, 08:33:06 PM
Interesting results I got from a NYC 2021 Mayoral I'm making:

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It's a shame that there isn't RCV in President Infinity (as far as I know) but I can't wait to play this if you are releasing this.

I'm down to making some GOP candidates and working out some of the small details. I've been running into an issue lately where (because of how many opponents they have), the winner of the Democratic primary is typically losing to the Republican nominee, despite the NYC GOP essentially being non-existent. I don't want to make them unrealistically weak, but, I gotta stop Curtis Sliwa from winning every time lmao


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: BippyTheGuy on July 20, 2021, 02:15:20 AM
Modded observer game in PF08+P

President Bill Clinton (Democratic – Arkansas)/Vice President Al Gore (Democratic – Tennessee) 270ev 44,469,929pv 44.69%
Senator Richard Lugar (Republican – Indiana)/Governor Jim Edgar (Republican – Illinois) 268ev 45,889,961pv 46.11%
Publishing executive Steve Forbes (Reform – New Jersey)/Businessman Donald Trump (Reform – New York) 0ev 5,257,000pv 5.28%
Activist Ralph Nader (Green – Connecticut)/Activist Winona LaDuke (Green – California) 0ev 967,880pv 0.97%
Author Harry Browne (Libertarian – Tennessee)/Activist Jo Jorgensen (Libertarian – South Carolina) 0ev 771,688pv 0.78%
Former White House Communications Director Pat Buchanan (U.S. Taxpayers' – Virginia)/Activist Clymer Wright (U.S. Taxpayers' – Texas) 0ev 65,654pv 0.07%
Scattering 0ev 2,090,883pv 2.10%


A 794-vote margin in West Virginia kept Bill Clinton in the White House and both Oregon and Washington were decided by fewer than 15,000 votes each.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: GM Team Member and Senator WB on July 20, 2021, 09:36:01 AM
Jones Was 20% behind at the start of the Campaign

Even after allegations broke our Jones was still behind by 5% in the polls

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But when election night came around

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I legit have no idea how this happened this is the biggest turnaround in any game I've ever played
Momentum can really heavily affect turnout. I’ve won NYC city council with republicans by having huge ending momentum with horrible D momentum


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: tmthforu94 on September 20, 2021, 12:59:24 PM
Ran as Rockefeller on Hard. Clinched the nomination after securing endorsements from Reagan and Romney. Despite finishing third in the primaries, McCarthy manages to win at the convention, and going into the General it is just a 3 point race, but things quickly go south for McCarthy as Rockefeller hammers him for his extreme anti-Vietnam stance. A late push swings Rhode Island dramatically, and Massachusetts ends up being a 1 point race. Rockefeller wins 52-34-13 nationwide, which is about how I'd imagine it would go if McCarthy had managed to win IRL.





Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: BG-NY on October 09, 2021, 11:46:08 PM
Anybody play the latest version of PI? I want to get back into it.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on December 24, 2021, 11:35:20 PM
Anybody play the latest version of PI? I want to get back into it.

Would definitely recommend. 270soft and the people behind it are really up to some good work on another game as well, A More Perfect Union.


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TrumpBritt24 on December 28, 2021, 12:45:19 AM
Buttigieg/Abrams defeats Rubio/Crenshaw in Georgia by literally one vote...

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Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: Aspi on October 25, 2023, 06:56:44 PM
Hi all, I read through quite a few posts, this game looks great.  Some posts preferred the 2008 version due to bugginess.  I'm thinking of buying the 2024 pre-release, but have never played earlier versions so it is speculative.  Would be interested in opinions, older posts are a bit obsolete, thank you!   -Aspi


Title: Re: President Forever results thread...
Post by: TimeUnit2027 on October 28, 2023, 07:19:35 AM
PI is good , but i recomend 3.1.1 J ,because new one is bug-filled,and i don't know how to defeat frontrunner for nomination.If anyone knows how to do that in new wersion,please write.