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Title: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Tender Branson on October 11, 2008, 12:33:57 AM
New Poll: Alabama President by Survey USA on 2008-10-09 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php?action=indpoll&id=120081009019)

Summary: D: 35%, R: 62%, I: 2%, U: 1%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=b2db5e34-9654-4a51-a3ea-02cbea1a304f)



Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Tender Branson on October 11, 2008, 12:36:29 AM
Hahaha.

McCain gets almost 1/5 of African-Americans in their poll.

They are underestimating Obama's final result by about 4-5% ...

I think he'll end up with 39-40% overall, getting 95% of African-Americans and 20% of Whites.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Hash on October 11, 2008, 06:44:05 AM
Alabama lol


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Adlai Stevenson on October 11, 2008, 12:26:34 PM
Hahaha.

McCain gets almost 1/5 of African-Americans in their poll.

They are underestimating Obama's final result by about 4-5% ...

I think he'll end up with 39-40% overall, getting 95% of African-Americans and 20% of Whites.

I agree.

ALABAMA PRESIDENT -
59% (R) McCain
40% (D) Obama


ALABAMA SENATE -
62% (R) Sessions
36% (D) Figures
  1% Others


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: LanceMcSteel on October 11, 2008, 06:02:09 PM
The Conservative heart of Dixie remains faithful to its slavery and segregated roots.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 11, 2008, 06:15:50 PM
The Conservative heart of Dixie remains faithful to its slavery and segregated roots.

::)


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: MR maverick on October 11, 2008, 09:14:29 PM
The Conservative heart of Dixie remains faithful to its slavery and segregated roots.

I often wonder if they placed slavery on the ballot  how many in these southren states would vote for it?


Willing to bet 40% of whites?


If you ever noticed during primary season a black democract will beat out other white democracts and win ( Obama/ Hillary) in these states.

In the general election its a different story... could it be that the democrats in those states are the AA vote  and the republicans are the white vote?

It always workout to 35% for the dem and 50% for the republican.  That 35% is the black vote is my guess.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: LanceMcSteel on October 11, 2008, 09:28:13 PM
Well friend they did have a referendum on the ballot in 2000 in Alabama to remove non enforceable wording from their constitution that banned interracial marriage. 42% of Alabama voters voted against it.

lol


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on October 11, 2008, 09:36:33 PM
The Conservative heart of Dixie remains faithful to its slavery and segregated roots.

I often wonder if they placed slavery on the ballot  how many in these southren states would vote for it?


Willing to bet 40% of whites?


If you ever noticed during primary season a black democract will beat out other white democracts and win ( Obama/ Hillary) in these states.

In the general election its a different story... could it be that the democrats in those states are the AA vote  and the republicans are the white vote?

It always workout to 35% for the dem and 50% for the republican.  That 35% is the black vote is my guess.

You just figured that out, Mr Politics? Why do you hate the south so much since you live in my home state? Where in South Carolina are you from?


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Aizen on October 12, 2008, 11:59:05 AM
The Republicans should be absolutely embarassed that states like Alabama and Oklahoma are their strongholds


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 12, 2008, 12:04:31 PM
The Republicans should be absolutely embarassed that states like Alabama and Oklahoma are their strongholds


Just as much as Democrats should be embarrassed that literally crumbling inner cities that have been ruled by their party for decades are their strongholds.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Ty440 on October 12, 2008, 12:09:33 PM
The Republicans should be absolutely embarassed that states like Alabama and Oklahoma are their strongholds


Just as much as Democrats should be embarrassed that literally crumbling inner cities that have been ruled by their party for decades are their strongholds.

Amen to that!  Look at the top 20  most crime ridden cities and the top 20 poorest cities in America and find me just ONE that has a Republican mayor!


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on October 12, 2008, 12:10:05 PM
The Republicans should be absolutely embarassed that states like Alabama and Oklahoma are their strongholds

No they shouldn't.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 12, 2008, 12:27:42 PM
Republican 45% (42%): McCain 90% (92%); Obama 9% (7%)

Democrat 30% (35%): McCain 21% (20%); Obama 77% (78%)

Independent 22% (17%): McCain 61% (75%); Obama 29% (22%)

Conservative 45% (45%): McCain 85% (88%); Obama 12% (11%)

Moderate 30% (27%): McCain 50% (57%); Obama 49% (40%)

Liberal 9% (9%): McCain 20% (18%); Obama 76% (79%)

Top issue - the economy 61% (52%): McCain 59% (62%); Obama 38% (36%)

(denotes SUSA, Sep. 16-17, 2008)


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: tokar on October 12, 2008, 12:45:53 PM
The Republicans should be absolutely embarassed that states like Alabama and Oklahoma are their strongholds


Just as much as Democrats should be embarrassed that literally crumbling inner cities that have been ruled by their party for decades are their strongholds.

Republicans are mostly to blame for their plight and these people know it...thus the reason why they are DEM strongholds.

S-CHIP expansion - would have helped more low income families with children...nixed by Bush.
Lack of socialized medicine - socialized medicine would have immensely helped low income families...shot down by republicans.
Iraq War - gas prices have shot through the roof, causing everything to go up in price, including food...thanks Bush.
All the crap with the stock market - certainly doesnt help low income families...thanks Bush policies.

etc. etc.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 12, 2008, 12:48:34 PM
The Republicans should be absolutely embarassed that states like Alabama and Oklahoma are their strongholds


Just as much as Democrats should be embarrassed that literally crumbling inner cities that have been ruled by their party for decades are their strongholds.

Republicans are mostly to blame for their plight and these people know it...thus the reason why they are DEM strongholds.

S-CHIP expansion - would have helped more low income families with children...nixed by Bush.
Lack of socialized medicine - socialized medicine would have immensely helped low income families...shot down by republicans.
Iraq War - gas prices have shot through the roof, causing everything to go up in price, including food...thanks Bush.
All the crap with the stock market - certainly doesnt help low income families...thanks Bush policies.

etc. etc.

Uh, huh. And when these cities are basically the same under a possible Obama Administration? Then what?

Many of them were just as bad under Democratic Presidents. Nice try, though!


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: War on Want on October 12, 2008, 12:55:09 PM
Inner Cities>backward rural areas


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Ty440 on October 12, 2008, 12:58:27 PM

backward rural areas>Obama's South Side of Chicago


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 12, 2008, 12:59:48 PM

I love cities and I especially love my city (with all of its problems) but to deny that there are real problems and that the Democrats are mostly to blame is total hackery.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on October 12, 2008, 01:07:29 PM

I love cities and I especially love my city (with all of its problems) but to deny that there are real problems and that the Democrats are mostly to blame is total hackery.
Now that's hackery right there if I've ever seen it.

The plight of inner cities is a bipartisan f**k up, beginning after WWII with the policies of the Eisenhower administration that promoted mass movement out to the suburbs... in response, poor blacks from the south saw a chance to get some cheap real estate in the cities up north where they believed there were better chances for them, so they moved up.

But with the whites, went the tax revenues and cities began to crumble.

This prompted more white flight and racial tensions began to rise...

This is where the Democrats came in and caused problems.  They thought "well, if we just tear all the abandoned buildings down, that'll help"... urban renewal destroyed the heart of many of our cities... not to mention the civil rights movement happening on top of all of this and race riots.

Some cities began to reform in the 1970s and into the '80s... like New York.. or even Minneapolis.  While other cities continued to bleed population during the '80s, Minneapolis lost 2000 people.

In fact, during this time, condos became popular downtown again.

Now since, it has been liberals who have suggested things that actually work:  Keeping kids in school and off the streets after school, promoted mixed income neighborhoods and developments, and upping the police presence on the streets...

Sure, it hasn't all been fixed... but cities that have followed many of these policies, like Minneapolis, have been improved greatly since bottoming out in the late '70s.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 12, 2008, 01:09:00 PM

I love cities and I especially love my city (with all of its problems) but to deny that there are real problems and that the Democrats are mostly to blame is total hackery.
Now that's hackery right there if I've ever seen it.

The plight of inner cities is a bipartisan f**k up, beginning after WWII with the policies of the Eisenhower administration that promoted mass movement out to the suburbs... in response, poor blacks from the south saw a chance to get some cheap real estate in the cities up north where they believed there were better chances for them, so they moved up.

But with the whites, went the tax revenues and cities began to crumble.

This prompted more white flight and racial tensions began to rise...

This is where the Democrats came in and caused problems.  They thought "well, if we just tear all the abandoned buildings down, that'll help"... urban renewal destroyed the heart of many of our cities... not to mention the civil rights movement happening on top of all of this and race riots.

Some cities began to reform in the 1970s and into the '80s... like New York.. or even Minneapolis.  While other cities continued to bleed population during the '80s, Minneapolis lost 2000 people.

In fact, during this time, condos became popular downtown again.

Now since, it has been liberals who have suggested things that actually work:  Keeping kids in school and off the streets after school, promoted mixed income neighborhoods and developments, and upping the police presence on the streets...

Sure, it hasn't all been fixed... but cities that have followed many of these policies, like Minneapolis, have been improved greatly since bottoming out in the late '70s.

Right and it's not hackish to pledge your allegiance to a party that promises to fix all of your problems and when they don't, they effectively get you to shift blame to the evil Republicans.  ::)


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: Ban my account ffs! on October 12, 2008, 01:17:30 PM

I love cities and I especially love my city (with all of its problems) but to deny that there are real problems and that the Democrats are mostly to blame is total hackery.
Now that's hackery right there if I've ever seen it.

The plight of inner cities is a bipartisan f**k up, beginning after WWII with the policies of the Eisenhower administration that promoted mass movement out to the suburbs... in response, poor blacks from the south saw a chance to get some cheap real estate in the cities up north where they believed there were better chances for them, so they moved up.

But with the whites, went the tax revenues and cities began to crumble.

This prompted more white flight and racial tensions began to rise...

This is where the Democrats came in and caused problems.  They thought "well, if we just tear all the abandoned buildings down, that'll help"... urban renewal destroyed the heart of many of our cities... not to mention the civil rights movement happening on top of all of this and race riots.

Some cities began to reform in the 1970s and into the '80s... like New York.. or even Minneapolis.  While other cities continued to bleed population during the '80s, Minneapolis lost 2000 people.

In fact, during this time, condos became popular downtown again.

Now since, it has been liberals who have suggested things that actually work:  Keeping kids in school and off the streets after school, promoted mixed income neighborhoods and developments, and upping the police presence on the streets...

Sure, it hasn't all been fixed... but cities that have followed many of these policies, like Minneapolis, have been improved greatly since bottoming out in the late '70s.

Right and it's not hackish to pledge your allegiance to a party that promises to fix all of your problems and when they don't, they effectively get you to shift blame to the evil Republicans.  ::)

If I may play one of your cards, Phil:

*I* never said I blame the Republicans for the problems of inner city America... but rather, I think all sides are at fault.  One for not caring, and the other for doing the wrong things.


Title: Re: AL: Survey USA: McCain comfortably ahead of Obama
Post by: MR maverick on October 12, 2008, 08:48:39 PM
The Conservative heart of Dixie remains faithful to its slavery and segregated roots.

I often wonder if they placed slavery on the ballot  how many in these southern states would vote for it?


Willing to bet 40% of whites?


If you ever noticed during primary season a black Democrat will beat out other white democrats and win ( Obama/ Hillary) in these states.

In the general election its a different story... could it be that the democrats in those states are the AA vote  and the republicans are the white vote?

It always workout to 35% for the dem and 50% for the republican.  That 35% is the black vote is my guess.

You just figured that out, Mr Politics? Why do you hate the south so much since you live in my home state? Where in South Carolina are you from?


Iam actually from Florida in terms of birth.  I like here in upstate SC a nice place in terms of  better living.

 Its not that I hate the south, its more of I hate the southern attitudes on race.  I hate that people in the south let politicans take advantage of  racial attitudes when theres  no need for it.

If people in the south punished ANY politician who attempts to use race, they wouldn't do it anymore.