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Election Archive => 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Wiz in Wis on October 07, 2008, 12:01:08 PM



Title: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Wiz in Wis on October 07, 2008, 12:01:08 PM
New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Survey USA on 2008-10-06 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php?action=indpoll&id=4220081005019)

Summary: D: 55%, R: 40%, I: 2%, U: 3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=b99d60cb-3369-47bd-887f-85bae65d2a31)



Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 07, 2008, 12:02:06 PM
Damn son. 


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: The Ex-Factor on October 07, 2008, 12:06:13 PM
Holy cow, he's winning white voters.

lol at only 9% independent


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck on October 07, 2008, 12:37:18 PM
Obama will win Pennsylvania by 8 or 9 in the end methinks. 

Shocking to me really, because I thought PA was going to go Obama by the slimmest of margins early on. 

So with these PA polls and McCain pulling out of Michigan, what is his strategy?  Bank on every Bush state minus Iowa and NM sticking with the GOP? 


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: jamestroll on October 07, 2008, 12:38:20 PM
lol Junk poll.

SurveyUSA has been insane lately.

Now Hillary would have been leading in PA by 15 points per Rasmussen at this time!


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 07, 2008, 12:44:09 PM
And McCain is still up in MN, guys.  ;)


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Aguagon on October 07, 2008, 12:48:29 PM
So with these PA polls and McCain pulling out of Michigan, what is his strategy?  Bank on every Bush state minus Iowa and NM sticking with the GOP? 

I've been wondering about this myself. It's like McCain's strategy is to back himself into a corner. Well, no complaints from me.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2008, 12:56:21 PM
Republican 39% (38%): McCain 75% (78%); Obama 21% (17%)

Democrat 50% (51%): McCain 16% (19%); Obama 80% (76%)

Independent 9% (10%): McCain 29% (39%); Obama 62% (47%)

Conservative 29% (27%): McCain 79% (81%); Obama 19% (15%)

Moderate 36% (38%): McCain 34% (36%); Obama 60% (58%)

Liberal 15% (15%): McCain 10% (11%); Obama 86% (86%)

(denotes SUSA, Sep. 23-24, 2008)


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Rowan on October 07, 2008, 01:07:35 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2008, 01:09:37 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

Have I to let you in on a secret? It's 2008 now


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2008, 01:10:27 PM
I'd like to think McCain was haemorrhaging support among Independents. He deserves it for having capitulated to the reactionary wing of his party by passing over Tom Ridge for Saintly Sarah

Dave


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 07, 2008, 01:11:55 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

Have I to let you in on a secret? It's 2008 now

I'd like to think McCain was haemorrhaging support among Independents. He deserves it for having capitulated to the reactionary wing of his party by passing over Tom Ridge for Saintly Sarah

Dave


Thanks, Talking Points.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Tender Branson on October 07, 2008, 01:12:48 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

I wouldn't be so sure about it:

In 2004, Democrats had a 7% registration advantage and the exit polls showed a 2% advantage for them.

In 2006, Democrats also had a 7% registration advantage in PA, and exit polls showed them with a 5% lead.

In 2008, the registraion advantage grew to 14% ...

So, if the additional 7% are added to the 2006 numbers, what is the result ?


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Rowan on October 07, 2008, 01:19:35 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

I wouldn't be so sure about it:

In 2004, Democrats had a 7% registration advantage and the exit polls showed a 2% advantage for them.

In 2006, Democrats also had a 7% registration advantage in PA, and exit polls showed them with a 5% lead.

In 2008, the registraion advantage grew to 14% ...

So, if the additional 7% are added to the 2006 numbers, what is the result ?

And how many of them are fake registrations by ACORN in inner city Philadelphia? In many Philly neighborhoods there are more registered voters than acutal people living there, just to let you in on a little secret.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Bacon King on October 07, 2008, 01:20:28 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

I wouldn't be so sure about it:

In 2004, Democrats had a 7% registration advantage and the exit polls showed a 2% advantage for them.

In 2006, Democrats also had a 7% registration advantage in PA, and exit polls showed them with a 5% lead.

In 2008, the registraion advantage grew to 14% ...

So, if the additional 7% are added to the 2006 numbers, what is the result ?

And how many of them are fake registrations by ACORN in inner city Philadelphia? In many Philly neighborhoods there are more registered voters than acutal people living there, just to let you in on a little secret.

lol proof?


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2008, 01:21:09 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

Have I to let you in on a secret? It's 2008 now

That's no talking point, it's a fact ;)

Quote
I'd like to think McCain was haemorrhaging support among Independents. He deserves it for having capitulated to the reactionary wing of his party by passing over Tom Ridge for Saintly Sarah

Dave


Thanks, Talking Points.

That's no talking point. It's Dave Hawk's opinion


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Keystone Phil on October 07, 2008, 01:22:47 PM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

I wouldn't be so sure about it:

In 2004, Democrats had a 7% registration advantage and the exit polls showed a 2% advantage for them.

In 2006, Democrats also had a 7% registration advantage in PA, and exit polls showed them with a 5% lead.

In 2008, the registraion advantage grew to 14% ...

So, if the additional 7% are added to the 2006 numbers, what is the result ?

And how many of them are fake registrations by ACORN in inner city Philadelphia? In many Philly neighborhoods there are more registered voters than acutal people living there, just to let you in on a little secret.

lol proof?

Dude, it's true. We have a reputation for that type of nonsense.



Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Sam Spade on October 07, 2008, 01:25:53 PM
So many idiots, so little time...


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2008, 01:32:41 PM

It won't be too long before I'm able to get out of hack mode, especially if Obama wins. If staid ol' decrepit (and that's just his ideas) John 'More of the Failed Same' McVain wins, well ... I'm not making any promises ;D

Dave


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Sam Spade on October 07, 2008, 01:39:17 PM

It won't be too long before I'm able to get out of hack mode, especially if Obama wins. If staid ol' decrepit (and that's just his ideas) John 'More of the Failed Same' McVain wins, well ... I'm not making any promises ;D

Dave


Out of hack mode, Dave?  I didn't know that was possible.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Joe Republic on October 07, 2008, 01:41:40 PM

It won't be too long before I'm able to get out of hack mode, especially if Obama wins. If staid ol' decrepit (and that's just his ideas) John 'More of the Failed Same' McVain wins, well ... I'm not making any promises ;D

Dave


Out of hack mode, Dave?  I didn't know that was possible.

Democratic Hawk's real name is Dave?  WTF?!  First I've heard about it.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2008, 01:44:54 PM

It won't be too long before I'm able to get out of hack mode, especially if Obama wins. If staid ol' decrepit (and that's just his ideas) John 'More of the Failed Same' McVain wins, well ... I'm not making any promises ;D

Dave


Out of hack mode, Dave?  I didn't know that was possible.

Sam, you know fine well I'm closer to the Republicans than I am the Democrats on certain issues. Can't be that much of a hack ;)

Dave


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: jamestroll on October 07, 2008, 01:46:17 PM

It won't be too long before I'm able to get out of hack mode, especially if Obama wins. If staid ol' decrepit (and that's just his ideas) John 'More of the Failed Same' McVain wins, well ... I'm not making any promises ;D

Dave


Out of hack mode, Dave?  I didn't know that was possible.

Sam, you know fine well I'm closer to the Republicans than I am the Democrats on certain issues. Can't be that much of a hack ;)

Dave

I am ideologically the same as you, for the most part, yet I am not a hack, and support many Rethuglicans.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Democratic Hawk on October 07, 2008, 02:20:50 PM
I am ideologically the same as you, for the most part, yet I am not a hack, and support many Rethuglicans.

I'm not adverse to Republicans, providing they aren't too ideological or, at the very least, competent

Dave


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Lief 🗽 on October 07, 2008, 03:22:00 PM
Obama will probably win by 10 points or so in the end. The state will trend Republican, but still be more Democratic than the national average.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Aizen on October 07, 2008, 03:23:39 PM
On Hardball yesterday I saw where the Washington Post reported Democrats increased their numbers by 474,000 in PA while Republicans actually decreased by something like 30,000


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Brittain33 on October 07, 2008, 03:34:55 PM
And how many of them are fake registrations by ACORN in inner city Philadelphia? In many Philly neighborhoods there are more registered voters than acutal people living there, just to let you in on a little secret.

The latter is because lots of people who used to live in those neighborhoods, moved out, and weren't purged. They don't come back to vote. It has nothing to do with ACORN conspiracies.


Title: Re: PA: Survey USA: Obama up 15 in PA
Post by: Bacon King on October 08, 2008, 12:33:06 AM
McCain loses 21% of Republicans? Yeah right. Plus exit polls had the state as D+2, this D+11 party ID doesn't pass the smell test.

I wouldn't be so sure about it:

In 2004, Democrats had a 7% registration advantage and the exit polls showed a 2% advantage for them.

In 2006, Democrats also had a 7% registration advantage in PA, and exit polls showed them with a 5% lead.

In 2008, the registraion advantage grew to 14% ...

So, if the additional 7% are added to the 2006 numbers, what is the result ?

And how many of them are fake registrations by ACORN in inner city Philadelphia? In many Philly neighborhoods there are more registered voters than acutal people living there, just to let you in on a little secret.

lol proof?

Dude, it's true. We have a reputation for that type of nonsense.



I've actually not heard of that. I know people sometimes make fraud allegations about New Mexico, Wisconsin, etc, but this is the first time I've actually heard about it in Philly specifically. I was critical with Rowan because it sounded like something he was just pulling out his arse.