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Election Archive => 2008 U.S. Presidential General Election Polls => Topic started by: Tender Branson on June 27, 2008, 01:02:24 PM



Title: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Tender Branson on June 27, 2008, 01:02:24 PM
New Poll: Ohio President by Survey USA on 2008-06-24 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/pollsa.php?action=indpoll&id=3920080622019)

Summary: D: 48%, R: 46%, U: 6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=b379f604-b136-4483-b19f-7f38a1a85f81)

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Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Ronnie on June 27, 2008, 01:14:28 PM
This seems realistic; there is plenty of room for McCain for improvement.

The internals are screwed up a little bit, though - the gender gap is huge.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Fmr. Pres. Duke on June 27, 2008, 01:17:03 PM
I am still iffy about SUSA. Obama only leads if he runs alone or with the state's governor?


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Aizen on June 27, 2008, 01:18:14 PM
VP polls = Trash


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Flying Dog on June 27, 2008, 01:20:42 PM
This just makes me hope that Obama and McCain pick their VP's soon so these ridiculous polls can be done.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Small Business Owner of Any Repute on June 27, 2008, 01:22:15 PM
I want to beat down whomever it is that thinks this Fiorina has any shot in hell of ever being remotely considered for a VP slot.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Iosif on June 27, 2008, 01:25:31 PM
I want to beat down whomever it is that thinks this Fiorina has any shot in hell of ever being remotely considered for a VP slot.

No political experience. Fired from her job due to incompetence.

All offset by having a vagina.



Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: © tweed on June 27, 2008, 01:36:05 PM
who would have thought that a Boston Jew would be so popular with "middle America."


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Sam Spade on June 27, 2008, 01:40:27 PM
who would have thought that a Boston Jew would be so popular with "middle America."

name recognition


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Hash on June 27, 2008, 01:42:49 PM
Sorry, but who the  is "Fiorina"?

I'd like some McCain/John Doe polls, too; if we're polling unknowns.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: The Mikado on June 27, 2008, 01:47:13 PM
Well, the answer is clear...Obama/______ for President it is.



Carly Fiorina, former CEO of HP.

I asked the same question last week, don't feel bad.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: kevinatcausa on June 27, 2008, 02:06:28 PM
I'm disappointed they didn't bother to poll the fascinating Obama/Bloomberg vs. McCain/Bloomberg matchup. 


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: True Democrat on June 27, 2008, 02:16:06 PM
I'm disappointed they didn't bother to poll the fascinating Obama/Bloomberg vs. McCain/Bloomberg matchup. 

Calhoun would be proud




Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: ottermax on June 27, 2008, 03:07:55 PM
I guess Obama should not choose a VP if he wants to win Ohio


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: © tweed on June 27, 2008, 03:16:53 PM
who would have thought that a Boston Jew would be so popular with "middle America."

name recognition

such is the ridiculousness of these VP polls


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Kaine for Senate '18 on June 27, 2008, 03:39:37 PM
Good poll, but LOL at Fiorina.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: NOVA Green on June 27, 2008, 10:14:37 PM
Well, the answer is clear...Obama/______ for President it is.



Carly Fiorina, former CEO of HP.

I asked the same question last week, don't feel bad.

She drove morale into the ground as CEO and effectively killed the Bill & Dave style of management that had run the company since its founding.... This certainly won't help McCain in states like Colorado and Oregon that have had large numbers of HP employees over the years. Of course, the merger with Compaq has come to be regarded as a success, although opinion looked decisively different at the time.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: they don't love you like i love you on June 27, 2008, 11:02:27 PM
The psychology involvement in these VP polls makes them retarded (almost as retarded as the idea of Fiorina on a ticket.)

Ask a person if they're voting for Obama or McCain and they'll give you an answer. Now ask if they'll vote for Obama/______ or McCain/______ blank and continue with different names in the blanks. Most people will just answer Obama or McCain down the line, but some people might figure that makes them "close-minded" and thus will change their answer with some VP with high name recognition. In reality almost no one will change their mind on the basis of the VP.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Alcon on June 28, 2008, 12:17:55 AM
I'm really getting close to weighting these SUSA VP polls down significantly, if not all SUSA polls.  They're making me extremely uncomfortable.


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: nyquil_man on June 28, 2008, 06:54:27 AM
Sorry, but who the  @%&$ is "Fiorina"?

I'd like some McCain/John Doe polls, too; if we're polling unknowns.

My neighbor down the street's got a doctor whose cousin is from Minneapolis; he could make MN competitive for McCain and I'm pretty sure he's a Republican.

Why the hell is SUSA excluding this highly-qualified candidate from their polling?


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Torie on June 28, 2008, 12:06:39 PM
I'm really getting close to weighting these SUSA VP polls down significantly, if not all SUSA polls.  They're making me extremely uncomfortable.

Why is that? The internals or because they are outliers, or something else?


Title: Re: OH: Survey USA: Obama slightly ahead of McCain
Post by: Sam Spade on June 28, 2008, 05:13:23 PM
I'm really getting close to weighting these SUSA VP polls down significantly, if not all SUSA polls.  They're making me extremely uncomfortable.

Why is that? The internals or because they are outliers, or something else?

Gender breakdowns I think.