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Presidential Elections - Analysis and Discussion => U.S. Presidential Election Results => Topic started by: A18 on August 29, 2004, 03:30:07 pm



Title: Since 1976
Post by: A18 on August 29, 2004, 03:30:07 pm
No Democratic candidate for president has ever gotten a majority of the popular vote. Before him, it was LBJ in 1964.

If Kerry doesn't win it this election, we'll be able to say the only Democrat president in the last fourty years to get the majority of Americans' support is Jimmy Carter. And that's pretty sad.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: ?????????? on August 29, 2004, 03:33:04 pm
I think we will go over 20 years without any candidate breaking 50%


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: A18 on August 29, 2004, 03:34:05 pm
It'd just have to happen this election and next. I have a feeling Bush will get over 50% though...


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: lidaker on August 29, 2004, 03:38:53 pm
No Democratic candidate for president has ever gotten a majority of the popular vote. Before him, it was LBJ in 1964.

Perhaps you should check the logic in your statements.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: A18 on August 29, 2004, 03:45:57 pm
Or maybe you should shut up.

Yeah, I meant before Carter.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: ATFFL on August 29, 2004, 03:53:40 pm
No Democratic candidate for president has ever gotten a majority of the popular vote. Before him, it was LBJ in 1964.

Perhaps you should check the logic in your statements.

If you mean Clinton and Gore, they did not get a mjority, they won a plurality of the vote.  Both of Clinton's elections he got below 50% of the vote, so he did not win a majority of the vote.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: Lunar on August 29, 2004, 03:58:44 pm
Carter's election was close and Clinton's election was divided between three people.  All of the other elections were won by Republicans, thus making it impossible to expect their opponents to carry over 50%.

I don't see how it's a "trend" at all.  But maybe it's just me.  Anyway, I don't see Kerry getting over 50.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: JohnFKennedy on August 29, 2004, 04:44:42 pm
Or maybe you should shut up.

Yeah, I meant before Carter.

His point is that you said "no democratic candidate for president has ever gotten a majority of the popular vote" then stated that LBJ did.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: A18 on August 29, 2004, 04:48:00 pm
It was a continuation from the "since 1976" title.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: tweed on August 29, 2004, 05:22:13 pm
no he won't.

Even if he somehow wins he won't get 50%.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: lidaker on August 29, 2004, 05:29:16 pm
I think both candidates have a possibility of getting more than 50% this time. Third-party candidates will get less than in 2000, perhaps around 2%. So a Kerry victory 50-48 or a Bush victory 51-47 is not impossible IMO.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: AuH2O on August 29, 2004, 06:37:03 pm
50% of the US is not going to vote for John Kerry. Rest assured.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: zorkpolitics on August 29, 2004, 06:49:05 pm
Like the 1880's, I think we are in a long period of a 50 50 nation.  In each election third parties will siphon off at least 2%, making hard for either party to win >50%.


Title: Re:Since 1976
Post by: classical liberal on August 29, 2004, 07:22:43 pm
every period of economic upheval creates polarization in the electorate.  the people who will benefit from the change on one side and those who will loose on the other.  we're moving into a period of a global information economy right now so the starke division is expectable.