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New Poll: North Carolina President by Survey USA on 2008-05-19 (https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=3720080519019)

Summary: D: 49%, R: 43%, U: 2%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details (http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=89a1b144-de19-4715-bb6f-97b2e817a23b)

Definatley an outlier.

what.

It looks like there will be much more Democratic defectors under Obama than Clinton.

The Obama one looks right, but the clinton one doesn't...

tehe.

What the hell? lol.

Wow, and I thought Obama was stronger in NC than Hillary. I guess a lot of her supporters in the state have no problems voting for McCain over Obama. I've talked to a few who either wouldn't vote or vote for McCain.

Do you know what the word outlier means?

It is really starting to infuriate me the extent to which Obama supporters would support Clinton as the Democratic nominee; yet hers wouldn't support him in equal measure. I see this as tantamount to securing Clinton the nomination by 'blackmail'

Dave

Did the Clinton campaign pay Survey USA to post fraudulent results?

"when polls blow up"

Obama supporters are teh black. Teh black always votes Dem. White women on the other hand, are a swing demographic. They always vote the winner. They are like white Catholics, independents, Hispanics, seniors... oh wait, we had this discussion back in February didn't we?


Also definitely true, for this poll. :)

Obama would be the winner of Clinton-inclined demographics supported him to the extent to which his would support her

Dave

uh what

Don't throw stuff like this around. There is a strict definition for this. There aren't enough polls of NC to determine whether it's a statistical outlier or not. The term only gains meaning if you have a statistically relevant number of data points, of which this is just one.

I scratch and tilt my head.

clap,clap,clap

He does. For him, it means, 'polls which show Obama ahead of McCain.'

LOL

Of course. Honestly, this sh*t isn't even funny anymore.

1 in 20, 1 in 20

Didn't you mean "securing the nomination by black male" :P

Why do you think a working white woman would cast her ballot for a random state legislator from Chicago whose primary accomplishments are "being a community organizer" and defeating perhaps their only chance to see a woman President in their lifetimes?

Of course. It's a given that if I support one candidate in a primary I must support all other candidates in that primary for the general election. Or, at least, if 80% of my preferred candidate's opponent's supporters I must support that opponent for the general election with 80% of myself.

Or, Dave, do you think all the millions of Clinton voters in America should get together and decide which of them are allowed to not vote Obama in the general, so they can match the percentage of Obama supporters saying they would vote Clinton in the general? Or do you admit that you are letting your absurd infatuation with Obama make you degenerate into talking complete nonsense?

My point is that neither Clinton nor Obama supporters - given where the two candidates stand on the issues - should be any more or any less likely to defect to McCain

That's all. Just the thought of either Democrat losing to McCain out of spite or worse (i.e. sexism in relation to Clinton or racism in relation to Obama) on the part of the other's supporters saddens me and polling suggests that, right now, Clinton supporters are more likely to undermine Obama than his would Clinton


I'd have a hard job doing that considering I'm not infatuated with Obama at all, let alone absurdly

You just get back to supporting McCain. I'll be supporting the nominee of the party with whom I identify

Dave

You expect Republicans to unify behind McCain; I'd like to see Democrats unify behind Obama or Clinton. It matters not in the least to me whether Clinton is a woman or Obama is a black man

Dave

All im going to say is Clinton supporters are sore losers. I would have no problem voting for Clinton if she won the nomination. Even though I PREFERRED Obama, I realize that the most important thing is to take back the white house from the republicans. Or else we will have 4 more years of Bushenomics and WAR WAR WAR. Sadly many Clinton supporters do not understand this.

I understand that you view it as a merit to blindly support the same party every election, irrespective of candidates, but I don't, so I'm not really uncomfortable with supporting McCain.

Don't you think it is a tad presposterous of you to decide for others which way they should vote and for what reasons? You've been head-over-heels in love with Obama rather than Clinton, despite there being no difference between them. Others may, for similar reasons, have different sets of preferences, such as wanting Clinton over McCain and then McCain over Obama.

Yes, I support Obama enthusiastically. That does not mean to say that I wouldn't support Clinton should she be the Democrat nominee; and yes, I am at significant variance with the Democrats on certain issues but not enough to support McCain. I'm not a conservative

Dave